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Discoveringself Side Hero Username: Discoveringself Post Number: 3257 Registered: 01-2016 Posted From: 99.245.148.186 Rating: N/A |
nee bonda...nee total bonda....u wudnt ever understand....it was not business.....it was imposed trading....at the same time, tax money from INdia is used to buy the goods....not Britain money.... check that aljazeera article below...... | ||
Discoveringself Side Hero Username: Discoveringself Post Number: 3256 Registered: 01-2016 Posted From: 99.245.148.186 Rating: N/A |
yeah whatever that means.....kadupu manta undochchu gaani.....that shudnt become toxic to the extent.......that ppl become an eternal mental slave of everything thats ugly and bad........ asalu democracy British vaadu implement cheyyaledu for his 200 years....why do u want to give that credit to them?........anyways, I probably understand ur predicament....hopefully one day you will understand it too....... | ||
Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 206895 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 45.29.50.49 Rating: |
cotton manade teesukoni clothes chesi manake ammi dochukunevaru britishollu ante sinnappudu blood boil ayyi classroom lo janthikalu kani ww ade business model british or usa or india do the same ambani dopidi daruda bangladesh srilanka llo yaaparam jedte | ||
Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 206894 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 45.29.50.49 Rating: N/A |
first part true ; destroy cheyaledu ani gani vallu manchollu ani kadhu argument they ruled india for more than hindu kings merits demirts not going into next british rule helped us no one wants to live under other coutnries rule but fact | ||
Telugu_times Legend Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 54915 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 99.0.30.9 Rating: N/A |
. CCDB - Caste Chemchas Discussion Baavi | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 68139 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 47.20.210.44 Rating: N/A |
What I meant was we were not ruling the world.. But we had a continuity of traditions and customs.. house theesi avi kooda culture nerpinchina British vaadu ichadu anukontunnaru emo  | ||
Whyme Megastar Username: Whyme Post Number: 28039 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 172.73.186.98 Rating: N/A |
emaithe enti.. hindu or buddhitst or jainist influence valla entha religion-of-peace rule eni vandala samvathsaralu vunna ippatiki relatively peaceful and secular ga bathukuthunnam.. aa basic tenets ye poyi vunte.. ee db lo ok hero kosam or oka politician kosam or oka party kosam or oka cassette kosam vooge batch antha ee paatiki 'belt' lu dhamaal.. oh my religion of feace | ||
Discoveringself Side Hero Username: Discoveringself Post Number: 3255 Registered: 01-2016 Posted From: 99.245.148.186 Rating: N/A |
enjoy ur slavism....may be ppl with such mindset dont deserve any better..... God bless all those British lovers....with British colonialism for all their generations to come.... | ||
Lenin Megastar Username: Lenin Post Number: 20419 Registered: 08-2014 Posted From: 103.253.93.33 Rating: N/A |
arey evadra akkda... Hindu rulers were the most compassionate and kind people born on the earth ani rayandi minimum sense ledu... Guntur, Hyderabad, Andhra, Telangana, Tamilnadu, Karnataka first....India last!!! | ||
Discoveringself Side Hero Username: Discoveringself Post Number: 3254 Registered: 01-2016 Posted From: 99.245.148.186 Rating: N/A |
manadi vaalladi enti?.....800 years mughals destroyed temples........200 years british looted India....... yes, it was the local population that created all the wealth....whichinvited looters and they looted.... | ||
Discoveringself Side Hero Username: Discoveringself Post Number: 3253 Registered: 01-2016 Posted From: 99.245.148.186 Rating: N/A |
ok...gujarat godhra govt aa?.......... neeku chittha suddhi ledu....edokati maatlaadathaav.......not worth it.... njoy ur British rule and culture.....and technology and progress and democracy..... | ||
Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 206892 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 45.29.50.49 Rating: N/A |
true and last 800 years manadhi kaani time gurinchi manadhe 99% ani brainwash enduku educated section lo ? anedhi question manadhi hindu rajyamu kaadhu, hindu desamu kaadhu...gaadidha dashhhh kaadhu We are secular, democractic country | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 68138 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 172.58.232.57 Rating: N/A |
Meeru andaru mechukone British samrajyam world map lo ledu.. Times keep changing | ||
Lenin Megastar Username: Lenin Post Number: 20418 Registered: 08-2014 Posted From: 103.253.93.33 Rating: N/A |
According to the Map of Maurya Empire...majority of South India is not part of the 'Great Indian Empire' please don't drag us in this conversation..thank you Guntur, Hyderabad, Andhra, Telangana, Tamilnadu, Karnataka first....India last!!! | ||
Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 206891 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 45.29.50.49 Rating: N/A |
ANCIENT INDIA pre civilization time ki teeskelli mammalni vongobettakurii... appudu maname monarchs Modern India lo maree modern kadhu 1200s nunchi bebbebbbe | ||
Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 206890 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 45.29.50.49 Rating: N/A |
322 BCE–185 BCE endukadhi... maree" bhoomi puttaka mundhu "ki true definition | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 68137 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 172.58.232.57 Rating: N/A |
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurya_Empire | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 68136 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 172.58.232.57 Rating: N/A |
Maurya period and its extent choosi postandi..then we can disco.. Chanakya maloom? | ||
Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 206889 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 45.29.50.49 Rating: N/A |
Adam and eve daka vellakapoyaara inkaa ? last 800 years lo we dont have significant place... | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 68135 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 172.58.232.57 Rating: N/A |
Anduke antha enthu tho posting Gaat it.. | ||
Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 206888 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 45.29.50.49 Rating: N/A |
vallu epudu exact ga vacharu year avi anni chinnapudu exams kosam sadviamu ipudu first time ye malli | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 68134 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 172.58.232.57 Rating: N/A |
Google for Chandragupta Maurya period..eppudu start ayyindi..entha India rulechesaru anedi.. Don't have to post your findings | ||
Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 206887 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 45.29.50.49 Rating: N/A |
idee charitra.......... Hindu Period (From pre-historic times to 1206 AD) Muslim period (1206 AD - 1707 AD) British period - EAST INDIA - 1757 to 1857 British Raj 1857 to 1947 Muslims in INDIA WERE 60-40 Muslims rulers ruled india more than hindus from 1200 AD count chesthe avi anni vadileshii INDIA ante 99% hindus , INDIA ni tehcnology ni develope jesinadhi vedhalu ane baavi lo padi rendu generations of EDUCATED ppl ni vp lni chesaaru jingoist batch aapandri ipatikaina | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 68133 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 172.58.232.57 Rating: N/A |
History ide first time reading aa? Just curious | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 68132 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 172.58.232.57 Rating: N/A |
Reverse lo vaade Manaki culture ichadu..kattukodaniki battalu ichadu...ani bhajan Lals song vesthunnaru..LOL | ||
Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 206886 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 45.29.50.49 Rating: N/A |
hindu rajulu bongu kadhu nawabs ni vodinchi east india co started In 1757, on account of the British victory at Plassey, where a military force led by Robert Clive defeated the forces of the Nawab of Bengal, Siraj-ud-daulah, akkada start ayindhi east india company until 1850s then true british ruling loki | ||
Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 206885 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 45.29.50.49 Rating: N/A |
riots control appudu tappa , i dont think they killed indians like in gujarath godhra govt | ||
Discoveringself Side Hero Username: Discoveringself Post Number: 3252 Registered: 01-2016 Posted From: 136.2.17.166 Rating: N/A |
nee bonda le...dammunnodu ekkadainaa dobbuthaadu....dammu lenodu only matter of time......dobbinchukuntaadu.... | ||
Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 206884 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 45.29.50.49 Rating: N/A |
telangana bill , last month ap highcourt division ivi anni consent of parlianment ni elaa purposely bypass or bulldoze jesaro telusu ga democracy lo its not fool proof but technical terms lo british is democracy too | ||
Discoveringself Side Hero Username: Discoveringself Post Number: 3251 Registered: 01-2016 Posted From: 136.2.17.166 Rating: N/A |
anyway democracy is Greek and ROman concept.... God knows the interest in somehow find something great about Great Britain....... anyways, if that is the obsession...enjoy it...or else they are just thugs who looted the whole world.....Japan has aristocracy till 1940s...they did OK... many forms of govts are there........they all did OK..........idekkadi gola........ vaadu chesina looting...the primary intent of the colonialism ni vadilesi..........somehow trying to find something good about them.........God Bless that thought process..... | ||
Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 206883 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 45.29.50.49 Rating: N/A |
we know you hate democracy, prefer monarchy endukante rajulu rajula kindha chidatala kodutu manam dochukuni tine pani democracy lo society layers lo ekkadiko poyamu ga...anthe ga anthe ga venki aasan | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 68129 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 172.58.232.57 Rating: N/A |
The British monarch, currently Queen Elizabeth II, is the chief of state of the United Kingdom. Though she takes little direct part in government, the Crown remains the fount in which ultimate executive power over government lies. These powers are known as royal prerogative and can be used for a vast amount of things, such as the issue or withdrawal of passports, to the dismissal of the Prime Minister or even the declaration of war. The powers are delegated from the monarch personally, in the name of the Crown, and can be handed to various ministers, or other officers of the Crown, and can purposely bypass the consent of Parliament. Do festival | ||
Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 206882 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 45.29.50.49 Rating: N/A |
Really ? Rajarikam ki democracy ki teda " diff form of govt " aa ? kiki people intervention ye leni dommari system rajarikam | ||
Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 206881 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 45.29.50.49 Rating: N/A |
kiki mana rajarikam or hindu vyavastha lo inhumane seggregation gurinchi cheppukovalante 2-3 yrs padutundhi point ikkada evari system better ani kadhu... adhi telali ante whole generation padutundhi argument | ||
Discoveringself Side Hero Username: Discoveringself Post Number: 3250 Registered: 01-2016 Posted From: 136.2.17.166 Rating: N/A |
Asalu democracy vaallu techchedi enti vaalla bonda?..........it is a concept that is taking root everywhere........ btw, democracy antey as if adedo digochchindi anukoku....just a diff form of govt......... other forms of govt also had to enjoy the support of ppl.....or else they cudnt survive for long........ | ||
Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 206880 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 45.29.50.49 Rating: N/A |
british is democracy | ||
Discoveringself Side Hero Username: Discoveringself Post Number: 3249 Registered: 01-2016 Posted From: 136.2.17.166 Rating: N/A |
they freakin never practiced democracy in the first place.....they treated colonies in the worst inhumane way possible....totally tiered system purely based on race........ and all these looted people looking at British as pioneers of democracy should be the biggest joke out there.... | ||
Moviebuff001 Hero Username: Moviebuff001 Post Number: 13384 Registered: 06-2013 Posted From: 165.225.34.116 Rating: N/A |
If they did it for us, why do they still have a queen?  _________________________________________________ Your words will tell others what you think. Your actions will tell others what you believe in. | ||
Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 206879 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 45.29.50.49 Rating: N/A |
who said they did not fight who said they were not great rulers but adhi rajarikapu vyavastha...hinduism ki rajarikaniki chala teda undhi sare hindu kingdoms unna kuda... HUGE % AREA of present india was under muslim rule from 1700 till british raj meeru cheppe pride hindu kingdom uncles were minority at that point inka parallel point britishers brought us into democracy | ||
Discoveringself Side Hero Username: Discoveringself Post Number: 3248 Registered: 01-2016 Posted From: 136.2.17.166 Rating: N/A |
adey kadaa...if some thug comes and rampages the house...........may be rapes the daughter and now if the daughter is pregnant..........wow, this thug gave us the next generation ani sambarapadipothaaremo....... ikkada kid kaadu kadaa...........anni vidhaala STDs ichchi vellipoyaaru aa British.........but then commie books lo it is a golden period........... intha slavish adukkutiney mindset elaa vastundo............very hard to comprehend........ | ||
Discoveringself Side Hero Username: Discoveringself Post Number: 3247 Registered: 01-2016 Posted From: 136.2.17.166 Rating: N/A |
okkasaari maratha empire....peshwas and their fight which pretty much got the mughals to their knees chadivithey telustundi... anyways, commie book readers always salivate at their masters........stockholm syndrome I guess..... | ||
Discoveringself Side Hero Username: Discoveringself Post Number: 3246 Registered: 01-2016 Posted From: 136.2.17.166 Rating: N/A |
wat a pathetic argument.....jeeeeeeeeeeeeeezz.....sometimes I wonder when u support TDP and Bala, r u kidding or that support real?............. may be the support is real...... | ||
Discoveringself Side Hero Username: Discoveringself Post Number: 3245 Registered: 01-2016 Posted From: 136.2.17.166 Rating: N/A |
kondani tavvi elukani pattinattu...........idaa nee panikiraani argument......enjoy.... western cultures are hell bent on books and beliefs....and so the word matham gets used interchangeably..... srsly dude?............hope u can come up with something more meaningful...or else continue ur whatever u keep throwing around..... | ||
Moviebuff001 Hero Username: Moviebuff001 Post Number: 13378 Registered: 06-2013 Posted From: 165.225.34.116 Rating: |
You already made-up your mind. No amount of evidence will change your mind. You are willing to downplay and denigrate one of the bigger scientific advances.
_________________________________________________ Your words will tell others what you think. Your actions will tell others what you believe in. | ||
Ruj Megastar Username: Ruj Post Number: 22868 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 73.228.241.243 Rating: N/A |
chinese ee kaadu thailand indonesia cambodia have very high regard for indian contributions to them historically in both scientific and spiritual aspects..appatlo desam vachi taxila nalanda lanti univs nundi teesukellevaru anta chinaki indian scholars ni.. as per rajiv malhotra references are present in chinese books..we have to do the dig up.. also chinese japanese and most of the eastern countries are very very honest about admitting where they sourced particular info from.the origins..unlike western rascals who stole plagarized all of our stuff.. also china today is protecting its legacy by fighting tooth and nail with western countries..be it chinese medicine, chinese ancient buddhist traditions etc.. manolu ani galiki vadili dobbi self loathing kindaling mode lo unnar.. | ||
Saidabad Junior Artist Username: Saidabad Post Number: 398 Registered: 07-2017 Posted From: 73.223.85.66 Rating: N/A |
Anduke meeru DB legend | ||
Tombrady Legend Username: Tombrady Post Number: 67814 Registered: 05-2012 Posted From: 216.163.220.32 Rating: N/A |
satap, culture icharu...technology developement icharu | ||
Teluguhero Side Hero Username: Teluguhero Post Number: 3146 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 73.104.252.173 Rating: |
How has distorted Indian history brainwashed our generation https://www.quora.com/How-has-distorted-Indian-history-brain washed-our-generation | ||
Ruj Megastar Username: Ruj Post Number: 22867 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 73.228.241.243 Rating: N/A |
Madras Presidency 1822-25 (Collectors Reports) Details of Schools & Colleges Caste Division of Male school students Brahmins/Chettris Vysee Soodra Other Caste Muslims Total Male Students Total 30,211 13,459 75,943 22,925 10,644 1,53,182 % of total 20 9 50 15 6 100} 50% were soodra students..this became 0 by 1940..that is what britishers gave you..rest mee democracy.. | ||
Gatti_gunde Megastar Username: Gatti_gunde Post Number: 25405 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 52.20.26.200 Rating: N/A |
cool makes sense We need to also research some Chinese history ..mana gurinchi em anukune vaalu ani ... emanna unnaaya... your links were too good....padhi mandhi ki cheppaali idhi....especially British vaala mabhya lo unnavaalaki | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 68122 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.231.21 Rating: N/A |
not sure..of 100% accuracy but this gives an idea https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-largest-empires-in-t he-history-of-india.html | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 68121 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.231.21 Rating: N/A |
google for extent of Maurya empire or Maratha empire | ||
Ruj Megastar Username: Ruj Post Number: 22866 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 73.228.241.243 Rating: N/A |
gundeii as a country ruled by people india was never one..but as a culture, people outside of india considered and this subcontinent as always one.. chinese nundi arabs nundi persians nundi greeks europeans varaku treated this land as one... so that GDP prediction was based on indian(including pak and bangla) subcontinent all together..the wealth this land had.. | ||
Ruj Megastar Username: Ruj Post Number: 22865 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 73.228.241.243 Rating: N/A |
gundeii dharmic scriptures ante naa uddesam hindu jain buddhist scriptures both religious and secular ones..vedas upanishads gita patanjali yoga, charaka samhita, surya sidhhanta, ganita sasthram meedha brahma gupta etc rasinavi, music vati meedha rasinavi rajatarangini lantivi enno,agamasasthras,etc etc etc...various subjects meedha unnayi scriptures.. kindha mana valu asalemi document cheyaledu antunaru..not true..lot was documented and lot was lost also.. | ||
Meghan Side Hero Username: Meghan Post Number: 4817 Registered: 03-2014 Posted From: 204.235.124.20 Rating: N/A |
Not because they are not capable of ... because you are doing it for cheap.... please educate me with a couple of technological inventions that Indians came up with and being used by western people.... | ||
Gatti_gunde Megastar Username: Gatti_gunde Post Number: 25398 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 52.20.26.200 Rating: N/A |
naaku oka genuine doubt annai ...appatlo manolu oka vandha mandhi kings oka vandha chotla vaala rules prakaaram taxes ....ila anni kingdoms (countries) ...unte British odi vallane India ane country ga vachindhi antaaru kada meeru GDP antunnaru kada India dhi ...asalu appatlo India anedhi undha asalu ...gully ki oka Raju sandhu ki oka kingdom undedhi kada....was there an ultimate authority ? | ||
Moviebuff001 Hero Username: Moviebuff001 Post Number: 13377 Registered: 06-2013 Posted From: 172.58.102.178 Rating: N/A |
We are launching their rockets, putting their satellites in space... Everything has its pace and importance. We didn't have nuke for a long time too. Technological inventions are also coming from India. At better pace now than in the past. You want to say that it isn't great because there is no stealth aircraft. OK. _________________________________________________ Your words will tell others what you think. Your actions will tell others what you believe in. | ||
Cocanada Legend Username: Cocanada Post Number: 57213 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 174.238.20.76 Rating: N/A |
oh.. is it? Why did Sankaracharya establish peetams in 4 corners of India as we know today??? India as a "nation" (meaning one people) existed millenia ago. Much before British invasion | ||
Meghan Side Hero Username: Meghan Post Number: 4816 Registered: 03-2014 Posted From: 204.235.124.20 Rating: |
Hinduism anedi amtham kadu way of life.... Maa Hindu mathannit okkesaru rendu sides meere batting cheyandi.... There is no unified india even during times of so called aryan period.... India as you know today is 70 years old.... India ane term kuda coined by western epople.... | ||
Ruj Megastar Username: Ruj Post Number: 22864 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 73.228.241.243 Rating: N/A |
inkoka comedy enti ante..islamic invasions ni tidithe hey u saffron intolerant.. britishers daggara ki vachesariki nizamu ni tittudu..lol..ela convinient unte ala..britishers worst ante nizam gr8 ani kaadu. when we discuss about anything we got to look holistically..we are discussing 200yrs old british rule and advantages/disadvantages..anthe kaani ala valle democracy vachindhi lavda vachindhi.. nee illu vakili anni dengesi neeku tundu gudda isthe..veedi valle tundu gudda vachindhi super antu tirugutharemo.. | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 68120 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.231.21 Rating: N/A |
LOL !!! | ||
Gatti_gunde Megastar Username: Gatti_gunde Post Number: 25397 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 52.20.26.200 Rating: N/A |
what are dharmic scriptures...meeru pettina links baagunnai annai....very nice read.... | ||
Meghan Side Hero Username: Meghan Post Number: 4815 Registered: 03-2014 Posted From: 204.235.124.20 Rating: N/A |
How far is India from developing its own stealth aircraft.... konchem google seyyandi.... western civilization 40-50 years back chesinavi we are not able to do today... | ||
Ruj Megastar Username: Ruj Post Number: 22863 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 73.228.241.243 Rating: N/A |
one | ||
Ruj Megastar Username: Ruj Post Number: 22862 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 73.228.241.243 Rating: N/A |
ee VEDAS fetish entra babu..VEDAS are on among thousands of dharmic scriptures..ee threadlo vedas anna point thecindhi evaru asalu..dani gurinchi disco ee led? veele online spam postlu pattukochi..veele daniki answrlu cheppesi..veele comedy chesesi..veele thodakottesi.. | ||
Siloan Legend Username: Siloan Post Number: 61089 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 132.174.20.41 Rating: N/A |
tat is true kada | ||
Ruj Megastar Username: Ruj Post Number: 22861 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 73.228.241.243 Rating: N/A |
Ookadampudu spamming posts twisted posts pakkana pedithe..for people interested in real well research facts and numbers..check the link in below post..how britishers indian gdp ni jurresarroo..
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Meghan Side Hero Username: Meghan Post Number: 4814 Registered: 03-2014 Posted From: 204.235.124.20 Rating: N/A |
VEdas print edition pattukurandi once for all telcheddam ante.... Ippudunna vedas very small part... we lost everything....manthralu tanthralu tappa emi migalledu saaru antaru... | ||
Ruj Megastar Username: Ruj Post Number: 22860 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 73.228.241.243 Rating: N/A |
TRUE DEVELOPMENT..lol..  | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 68119 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.231.21 Rating: N/A |
vomerica lo women ki voting right eppudu vachindi..1746 lo democracy vasthe .. zara quora ni adigi seppandi | ||
Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 206877 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 45.29.50.49 Rating: N/A |
Britishers laid the path, shown the way what to do how to do...patel sir was mere execution ( with due respect ) | ||
Ruj Megastar Username: Ruj Post Number: 22859 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 73.228.241.243 Rating: N/A |
 slavery ni ee rangelo celebrate chesukune jaathi prapanchamlo ledu amo.. | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 68118 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.231.21 Rating: N/A |
this sound some what accurate Around 1100 times lo Ghazni/Ghori invastions tho real muslim rule started in North Battle of Plassey around 1750s tho British started this is what I can recollect..from all my reading..oka 20/30 years atu itu | ||
Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 206875 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 45.29.50.49 Rating: N/A |
1746 USA ki democracy vachi prajalu vote hakku vasthe manaki 1746 ki NIZAM gadu muslim rulers vacharu 200 yellu tagaladengaru in a way manam denkaleka sethuletthesi unna time lo...britishers doori pilli pilli poru teerchi vallu occupy chesaru aa next TRUE DEVELOPMENT britishers ichinaaka , then we are ok anukunnaka independence vachindhi appudappudu anipistundhi jingoism pakkana dengite good thing happened to INDIA SO CALLED INDIA is british raj lekapote nizam raj , devaraya raj idhe ga ? | ||
Meghan Side Hero Username: Meghan Post Number: 4813 Registered: 03-2014 Posted From: 204.235.124.20 Rating: N/A |
COmedy entante muslims kind avunna samantha Hindu rajulu.... Ye appama aa roju vallaki hinduism kanna bathakatam mukhyam ayyindaa... mee kanna telivina vallu akbatti samanthulu ayyaru.... Again most of the officials under british govt belong to aprticular caste which is supposed to be priest section of hinduism... aa roju vallu bagane bagupaddaru... | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 68117 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.231.21 Rating: N/A |
meeru quora..gongura links kakunda..zara history sadivi seppandi rao garu.. OkaHyd bro tho kooda double checking seddam.. | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 68116 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.231.21 Rating: N/A |
chinna correction | ||
Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 206874 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 45.29.50.49 Rating: N/A |
Britishers lekapote india ki " path to democracy " evaru chesevaru ? Appatike 150 years democratic nation america WOW manam putteppatiki 25 30 yrs kuda levu democracy ki... rajulu banisalu chippaa karraa zero technology | ||
Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 206873 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 45.29.50.49 Rating: N/A |
https://www.quora.com/Did-Muslims-really-rule-India-for-700- years | ||
Ruj Megastar Username: Ruj Post Number: 22858 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 73.228.241.243 Rating: N/A |
ee thedlo spamming chestondhi nuvve raja.. | ||
Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 206872 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 45.29.50.49 Rating: N/A |
Remember we are fkin 70 year old country...out of which we Experienced 30 - 50 years first hand....most db members fall into this categeory sare mana mundhu just one generation post independence point entante... british rule koncham delay ayyi unte manam first gen indians ayye vallamu aa british rule ye rakapote inkaa ye nizam gadi kindhano uganda egypt syria llekkana undedhi mana situation Turaka rajyala hindu rajyala nunchi vimukthi chesi DEMOCRACY lo manalni kalipina british demullaki vandanam | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 68114 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.231.21 Rating: N/A |
evadu ee pulihora kalipinodu 1100 AD time period is the earliest start ani cheppochu 650 lo peddayana ki konda meeda commentary vinipsithe..700 ki vindia vachara.. | ||
Meghan Side Hero Username: Meghan Post Number: 4812 Registered: 03-2014 Posted From: 204.235.124.20 Rating: N/A |
Emundi scientific revolution mundu... either its Hindu/ Muslim/ Christian ....banisatvam vundi oka Raju aa Raju ki kappam kattatam... vadu aa dabbutho kotalu ranilu jalsalu... Konnir ajyalu christianity ni follow ayyayi konni islam ni follow ayyayi konni hinduism ni follow ayayyi Appadu jarigina bhumi pi poratalalo oka rajyam ikko rajyam meeda gelichindi... Gelichina Rajyalu odina rjayalu pi aa kalam lo bhava jalam ni ruddutharu...same with charitra vallani pogudutha rasukuntaru meeku gelavatam cheta kaka ee roju memu chala goppolam maa gurinchi meeru vinedhi antha abdham ani gola chesthe emoshtundi Coming to Modern period... Rajyalu poyayi.... sagam rpapancham ruelrs pi religion prabhavam chala mera taggipoyindi... ikka tagginchataniki try cheyyali kani ledu memu inthe maa ku ila vundatam istham ante evadem cheyyaledu | ||
Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 206870 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 45.29.50.49 Rating: N/A |
B Com lo Physics batch adhi Gedalu kasukune valla kanna agnanam valla sontham WEb world inception nunchi , ee vargam chethilo undi web indian history ni online lo lies tho nimpesaru | ||
Siloan Legend Username: Siloan Post Number: 61088 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 132.174.20.41 Rating: N/A |
enduku ledu OTaa ...we had.. kaaani pass avvaledu | ||
Discoveringself Side Hero Username: Discoveringself Post Number: 3244 Registered: 01-2016 Posted From: 136.2.16.183 Rating: N/A |
wat not documented? | ||
Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 206868 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 45.29.50.49 Rating: N/A |
entire india pakkana pedite mana g kinda chusukunte emundhi chippaa karraa nizam ruleing 1724–1948 and the area under them was : https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/India176 0_1905.jpg | ||
Meghan Side Hero Username: Meghan Post Number: 4811 Registered: 03-2014 Posted From: 204.235.124.20 Rating: |
Om ane padam nunchi universe puttindi.... maa kharma kakapothe deeniki kooda books, scientific analysis lu vachayi | ||
Siloan Legend Username: Siloan Post Number: 61087 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 132.174.20.41 Rating: N/A |
anukunna nannu commie antavani ...its ok no problem...theory ledu emi ledu.. documentation enduku cheyaledu manam ani question chestunna....in that process some mullu guchhukuntunnai...aina parledu ..agree and move on then question turuks and britishers anutunna | ||
Meghan Side Hero Username: Meghan Post Number: 4810 Registered: 03-2014 Posted From: 204.235.124.20 Rating: N/A |
Entha open ayina oka limit daati ruddataniki try chesthe adi evarina chiraku vasthundi.... Your civilization is great there ends the topic.... Atom bomb memepuddo avdamu.... aeronautics maha bahratha lo vundi.... test tube concept maade... prapanchaniki maths science maa biksha... | ||
Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 206867 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 45.29.50.49 Rating: N/A |
1200AD ki before emundhi technology or study or invention or discovery voorake page la page la spam tho savagodataru | ||
Siloan Legend Username: Siloan Post Number: 61086 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 132.174.20.41 Rating: N/A |
whole pichhar  | ||
Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 206866 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 45.29.50.49 Rating: N/A |
Dr. Jiban Mukhopadhyay- The history of India is usually divided into three periods: Hindu Period (From pre-historic times to 1206 AD) Muslim period (1206 AD - 1707 AD) British period Such divisions though convenient are not scientific. In the so called Hindu period the Hindus were not the only ruling power in India nor the people were Hindus as a whole. Chandragupta Maurya was a Jain by faith and Ashoka and Kanishka were Buddhist…. Similarly the term 'Muslim Period' is unscientific and unhistorical. The Muslim rule did not extend all over India. Many Hindu kingdoms existed in different parts of India like Orissa, Rajputana, Madhya Pradesh, Chhotanagpur, Assam and the Vijayanagar Kingdom…. | ||
Discoveringself Side Hero Username: Discoveringself Post Number: 3243 Registered: 01-2016 Posted From: 136.2.16.183 Rating: N/A |
wats ur theory man?...........eee commie ideas ki...how about look around the world...how societies function or how world works... or how nature is hierarchical........ilaa continuous crying usng same political lingo tho emostadi?......... yedo politics kosam antey....sure, why not anukovachchu........if really interested to know or curious........u gotta open up a bit more...and read the greatness of India......... | ||
Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 206865 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 45.29.50.49 Rating: N/A |
AREA UNDER MUSLIM RULE https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-afeac8b4ac849a794f2b18 0f385ef776 | ||
Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 206864 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 45.29.50.49 Rating: N/A |
Inka akkada nunchi British Raj | ||
Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 206863 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 45.29.50.49 Rating: N/A |
Findings : Muslim rulers were present for a total 1200 years (700 AD to 1900 AD) in India Average ruling area in those 1200 years comes out as 35% From 700 AD to 1300 AD, Muslims ruled over 17% of India averagely. From 1300 AD to 1757 AD, Muslims ruled over 60% of India averagely. (period of Delhi Sultanate and Mughals) Maximum area that Muslim ruled was 84%, that was also only once around 1650 AD under the Mughals. | ||
Siloan Legend Username: Siloan Post Number: 61084 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 132.174.20.41 Rating: N/A |
no muntha hiding raju goru...lets respect bandwidth hegemony culprit for so called lack of documentation or not? yes or now ..telcheyandi ..topik over | ||
Ruj Megastar Username: Ruj Post Number: 22857 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 73.228.241.243 Rating: N/A |
this book iss based on british archives for starters.. | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 68113 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.231.21 Rating: N/A |
Though it is true that half of these privately tutored were from amongst the Brahmins and the Vysees, still those from the Soodras form 28.7% of this number, and from the other castes 13% | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 68112 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.231.21 Rating: N/A |
These sciences are privately taught to some scholars or disciples generally by the Brahmins learned in them, without payment of any fee, or reward, and that they, the Brahmins who teach are generally maintained by means of maunium land which have been granted to their ancestors by the ancient Zamindars of the Zillah, and by the former Government on different accounts, but there appears no instance in which native Governments have granted allowances in money and land merely for the maintenance of the teachers for giving instruction in the above sciences. | ||
Siloan Legend Username: Siloan Post Number: 61082 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 132.174.20.41 Rating: N/A |
voorukondi raju goru...edho pustakam lo edho raasi okati rendu soodrul surgery chesaarani ..hegemony culprit kaakunda podda? documentation enduku ledu manaki? evariki raase arhatulundevi ?? hevaru knolejje ni chevullo cheresaaru? yes i ask all theeese meaningful questions progessively | ||
Ruj Megastar Username: Ruj Post Number: 22856 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 73.228.241.243 Rating: N/A |
annai there are lot of books written on various subject both by indian and western authots on the loot that happened to india as well as systematic denegration of society.first they picked targeted most hostile groups to british ..next they lured them with incentives..aa taruvatha rest of population ni cutt off chesi paradobbar ee castes nundi...punjablo jattski non jattski pulla pettar.ee roju non jatts non khatri sikhs in punjab are converting to Xianitiy..can u imagine??.southlo brahmins ki non brahminski pullalu.bengallo brahmins kayasthas ki lower casteski..ila pullal petti they took complete control.. anyways this is just british..if we talk about portugese that will be another story.. plagarising indian stuff, piracy loot unexplainable damage in ~250 odd years.. | ||
Mental_sachinodu Megastar Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 22609 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 50.241.19.41 Rating: N/A |
not sure what you are trying to say. the article claims that the famine was not reported or recorded as indian history.. and raju vunkl said, may be indians did not record. i gave A Sen's name as an example who has written on it 1980s many books in 70s by indian authors have written onit, and even a book in 1946 by indian authors, before the book that was released in 2013 says its "unwritten indian history". anyway - need to leave.. | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 68111 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.231.21 Rating: |
book motham sadivi ..disco maadudam.. | ||
Siloan Legend Username: Siloan Post Number: 61080 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 132.174.20.41 Rating: N/A |
dont even go there ...mistakes ki padding voddu | ||
Redclaw777 Side Hero Username: Redclaw777 Post Number: 5220 Registered: 12-2011 Posted From: 183.83.171.202 Rating: N/A |
Only from the 9th Century AD, do we have Muslim rulers invading. We were just a combination of princely states with no unified army and waiting to be looted. | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 68110 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.231.21 Rating: N/A |
separate thaadu veyyandi..all imp points disco seddam about 3000 years Hegemony | ||
Ruj Megastar Username: Ruj Post Number: 22855 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 73.228.241.243 Rating: N/A |
njoyy..it had tables clearly showing students enrolled by castes..in each area...darunamga brainwash chesi dobbar 3000 samvatsarala hegemony antu.. not jsut that our astronoy medicine taxonomy etc everything lying there in british archives..daani tavvi vati adharamga history books rayachu schooling system lo..kaani aa will unna naadhudu evar??? evaranna try chesina burra leni self loadthing emotional idiots black mailing ki diguthar saffronization antu.. anyways next 2 decades is going to be very interesting..lot of work going on..tavvi tavvi teeestuharu ela mana legacy ni kapetti kula chicchulu pettaro..ela they stole and plagarized stuff and put western mark on it.. | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 68109 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.231.21 Rating: N/A |
If I open the book in phone, I can see the tables.. but if I open at work computer..tables load avvatledu thanks for pointing to this book.. mundu mundu evaraina manalni British Educate chesindi..culture nerpichindi ante..ee Book link ivvochu...same British vodu raasina details tho | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 68108 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.231.21 Rating: N/A |
Nope..just book reading sesthuntene ..goosebumps..about the setup back then.. | ||
Brightlife34 Side Hero Username: Brightlife34 Post Number: 3368 Registered: 11-2017 Posted From: 73.104.149.210 Rating: N/A |
UK net worth as of date ee 10.2 trn GBP anta. mari mana deggara 45tr ela dobbukellaru.. ee 10.2tr lo valla sontha development kuda undi kada, remember they were a hub of innovation in 1600s and 1700s | ||
Ruj Megastar Username: Ruj Post Number: 22854 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 73.228.241.243 Rating: N/A |
this books warrants a seperate thread..naak load avvatledu book.. | ||
Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 206862 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 45.29.50.49 Rating: N/A |
pre britsh era lo muslim rulers vs hindu rulers who ruled majority of present indian trrritory data unda easily readable and shortest time lo | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 68107 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.231.21 Rating: N/A |
But the disciplines of Astronomy and Medical Science seem to have been studied by scholars from a variety of backgrounds and castes. This is very evident from the Malabar data: out of 808 studying Astronomy, only 78 were Brahmins; and of the 194 studying Medicine, only 31 were Brahmins. Incidentally, in Rajahmundry, five of the scholars in the institution of higher learning were Soodras. According to other Madras Presidency surveys, of those practising Medicine and Surgery, it was found that such persons belonged to a variety of castes. Amongst them, the barbers, according to British medical men, were the best in Surgery Inkosaaari 5000 years hegemony annavallaki ee book copy isthe all set anukonta | ||
Teenmaar Side Hero Username: Teenmaar Post Number: 7434 Registered: 02-2011 Posted From: 174.202.3.61 Rating: N/A |
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Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 206861 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 45.29.50.49 Rating: N/A |
Muslim rulers vs hindu rulers who ruled majority of present indian trrritory | ||
Ruj Megastar Username: Ruj Post Number: 22853 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 73.228.241.243 Rating: N/A |
sudra scholars were more in number compared to brahmins. idhi history ante..all hidden in british archives.. | ||
Ruj Megastar Username: Ruj Post Number: 22852 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 73.228.241.243 Rating: N/A |
thx bro..kaani indulo tables load avvatledu..is it loading for u? | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 68106 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.231.21 Rating: N/A |
While several of the collectors observed that no institutions of higher learning were then known to exist in their districts, the rest reported a total of 1,094 such places. These were enumerated under the term â€colleges’ (as mentioned in the prescribed form). The largest number of these, 279, were in the district of Rajahmundry with a total of 1,454 scholars, Rajahmundry guys thigh slapping seyyandi..appatlone antha mandi scholars ante  | ||
Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 206860 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 45.29.50.49 Rating: N/A |
60,40 ratio hindi muslims post pakistan , 80,20 ayyam with xtianity hindu 70,30 minorrity ayyam | ||
Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 206859 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 45.29.50.49 Rating: N/A |
Jokers | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 68105 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.231.21 Rating: N/A |
http://www.arvindguptatoys.com/arvindgupta/beautifultree.pdf | ||
Teluguhero Side Hero Username: Teluguhero Post Number: 3145 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 73.104.252.173 Rating: N/A |
LOL Amartya sen This time aljazeera link https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/britain-stole-45-t rillion-india-181206124830851.html There is a story that is commonly told in Britain that the colonisation of India - as horrible as it may have been - was not of any major economic benefit to Britain itself. If anything, the administration of India was a cost to Britain. So the fact that the empire was sustained for so long - the story goes - was a gesture of Britain's benevolence. New research by the renowned economist Utsa Patnaik - just published by Columbia University Press - deals a crushing blow to this narrative. Drawing on nearly two centuries of detailed data on tax and trade, Patnaik calculated that Britain drained a total of nearly $45 trillion from India during the period 1765 to 1938. It's a staggering sum. For perspective, $45 trillion is 17 times more than the total annual gross domestic product of the United Kingdom today. How did this come about? It happened through the trade system. Prior to the colonial period, Britain bought goods like textiles and rice from Indian producers and paid for them in the normal way - mostly with silver - as they did with any other country. But something changed in 1765, shortly after the East India Company took control of the subcontinent and established a monopoly over Indian trade. Here's how it worked. The East India Company began collecting taxes in India, and then cleverly used a portion of those revenues (about a third) to fund the purchase of Indian goods for British use. In other words, instead of paying for Indian goods out of their own pocket, British traders acquired them for free, "buying" from peasants and weavers using money that had just been taken from them. It was a scam - theft on a grand scale. Yet most Indians were unaware of what was going on because the agent who collected the taxes was not the same as the one who showed up to buy their goods. Had it been the same person, they surely would have smelled a rat. Some of the stolen goods were consumed in Britain, and the rest were re-exported elsewhere. The re-export system allowed Britain to finance a flow of imports from Europe, including strategic materials like iron, tar and timber, which were essential to Britain's industrialisation. Indeed, the Industrial Revolution depended in large part on this systematic theft from India. On top of this, the British were able to sell the stolen goods to other countries for much more than they "bought" them for in the first place, pocketing not only 100 percent of the original value of the goods but also the markup. After the British Raj took over in 1858, colonisers added a special new twist to the tax-and-buy system. As the East India Company's monopoly broke down, Indian producers were allowed to export their goods directly to other countries. But Britain made sure that the payments for those goods nonetheless ended up in London. How did this work? Basically, anyone who wanted to buy goods from India would do so using special Council Bills - a unique paper currency issued only by the British Crown. And the only way to get those bills was to buy them from London with gold or silver. So traders would pay London in gold to get the bills, and then use the bills to pay Indian producers. When Indians cashed the bills in at the local colonial office, they were "paid" in rupees out of tax revenues - money that had just been collected from them. So, once again, they were not in fact paid at all; they were defrauded. Meanwhile, London ended up with all of the gold and silver that should have gone directly to the Indians in exchange for their exports. This corrupt system meant that even while India was running an impressive trade surplus with the rest of the world - a surplus that lasted for three decades in the early 20th century - it showed up as a deficit in the national accounts because the real income from India's exports was appropriated in its entirety by Britain. Some point to this fictional "deficit" as evidence that India was a liability to Britain. But exactly the opposite is true. Britain intercepted enormous quantities of income that rightly belonged to Indian producers. India was the goose that laid the golden egg. Meanwhile, the "deficit" meant that India had no option but to borrow from Britain to finance its imports. So the entire Indian population was forced into completely unnecessary debt to their colonial overlords, further cementing British control. Britain used the windfall from this fraudulent system to fuel the engines of imperial violence - funding the invasion of China in the 1840s and the suppression of the Indian Rebellion in 1857. And this was on top of what the Crown took directly from Indian taxpayers to pay for its wars. As Patnaik points out, "the cost of all Britain's wars of conquest outside Indian borders were charged always wholly or mainly to Indian revenues." And that's not all. Britain used this flow of tribute from India to finance the expansion of capitalism in Europe and regions of European settlement, like Canada and Australia. So not only the industrialisation of Britain but also the industrialisation of much of the Western world was facilitated by extraction from the colonies. Patnaik identifies four distinct economic periods in colonial India from 1765 to 1938, calculates the extraction for each, and then compounds at a modest rate of interest (about 5 percent, which is lower than the market rate) from the middle of each period to the present. Adding it all up, she finds that the total drain amounts to $44.6 trillion. This figure is conservative, she says, and does not include the debts that Britain imposed on India during the Raj. These are eye-watering sums. But the true costs of this drain cannot be calculated. If India had been able to invest its own tax revenues and foreign exchange earnings in development - as Japan did - there's no telling how history might have turned out differently. India could very well have become an economic powerhouse. Centuries of poverty and suffering could have been prevented. All of this is a sobering antidote to the rosy narrative promoted by certain powerful voices in Britain. The conservative historian Niall Ferguson has claimed that British rule helped "develop" India. While he was prime minister, David Cameron asserted that British rule was a net help to India. This narrative has found considerable traction in the popular imagination: according to a 2014 YouGov poll, 50 percent of people in Britain believe that colonialism was beneficial to the colonies. Yet during the entire 200-year history of British rule in India, there was almost no increase in per capita income. In fact, during the last half of the 19th century - the heyday of British intervention - income in India collapsed by half. The average life expectancy of Indians dropped by a fifth from 1870 to 1920. Tens of millions died needlessly of policy-induced famine. Britain didn't develop India. Quite the contrary - as Patnaik's work makes clear - India developed Britain. What does this require of Britain today? An apology? Absolutely. Reparations? Perhaps - although there is not enough money in all of Britain to cover the sums that Patnaik identifies. In the meantime, we can start by setting the story straight. We need to recognise that Britain retained control of India not out of benevolence but for the sake of plunder and that Britain's industrial rise didn't emerge sui generis from the steam engine and strong institutions, as our schoolbooks would have it, but depended on violent theft from other lands and other peoples. Editor's note: A previous version of this article erroneously had the beginning of the British Raj as 1847. The correct year is 1858. The views expressed in this article are the author's own and do not necessarily reflect Al Jazeera's editorial stance. Dr Jason Hickel is an academic at the University of London and a Fellow of the Royal Society of Arts. | ||
Ruj Megastar Username: Ruj Post Number: 22848 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 73.228.241.243 Rating: N/A |
uncle its not with me..oka punjabi vunkle ichadu last month..i started on it and then fell sick i had to give it back.couldnot complete it.. give me somtime i want to get it back to finish reading it..i'll scan or do something.i want to get that book..i'll keep you posted.. | ||
Discoveringself Side Hero Username: Discoveringself Post Number: 3241 Registered: 01-2016 Posted From: 136.2.16.183 Rating: N/A |
the thing is.....our history is whitewashed to a certain extent...where brutal killing and subjugating other ppl is considered less relevant.........but the tracks for looting India's wealth is shown as some favor by British... as u cud see how the communists and innocents like Teenmaar, thinks that British has culture and how it enhanced India.....God knows what their culture is or what they really imparted anything good and great to India......... Our text books even glorify Tippu and other brutal idiots.......the very underlying ideology and philosophy is barbarious and mostly about conquering and subjugating........ofcourse ppl like ROmila, GUha and Teenmaar love it is a different issue.... but I think u get the idea....why commie text books give rise to zombies without any self respect..... | ||
Mental_sachinodu Megastar Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 22606 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 50.241.19.41 Rating: N/A |
sorry did not realize .. you have the book.. if so please send it to me.. | ||
Ruj Megastar Username: Ruj Post Number: 22846 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 73.228.241.243 Rating: N/A |
for interested people self bumping my post again..
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Ruj Megastar Username: Ruj Post Number: 22845 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 73.228.241.243 Rating: N/A |
this guy got this wrong..im sure he meant 12500 educational institutes in madras presidency(not madras alone)..dharampal book had that number based on british archives..ee commentator excitement tho chesina tappu anukuntuna..i doubt if that book by Francois Gautier has this..it will have the right number anukuntuna.. | ||
Xxx Hero Username: Xxx Post Number: 17339 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 24.74.65.205 Rating: N/A |
what is the population of Madras in 1600 ? 10 million ? how is it possible sir? - | ||
Mental_sachinodu Megastar Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 22603 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 50.241.19.41 Rating: N/A |
vunkl.. simple time line ... bengal famines and the tragedy happened.. it happened during british time.. and they controlled the media.. atleast until independence. Poverty and Famines - Amartya sen book in 1981 .. he covered the topic on bihar famine and bengal famine in that book.. just one topic meedha... he is a socialist.. and there were many books by indian authors in the 70's. how is it not "written" according to a book in 2013? i did not read Gautier book, but i feel that is not consistent, or quoted out of context in the article. according to wiki.. references.. there was a book on it even in 1946. on the topic by an indian author. Mahalanobis, P. C.; Mukherjea, R.K.; Ghosh, A (1946). "A sample survey of after effects of Bengal famine of 1943". | ||
Ruj Megastar Username: Ruj Post Number: 22842 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 66.41.59.111 Rating: N/A |
where did i deny their innovations? | ||
Discoveringself Side Hero Username: Discoveringself Post Number: 3240 Registered: 01-2016 Posted From: 136.2.16.183 Rating: N/A |
adedo burada mechchu kaani ani.......ee pichcha technology improvements lo kanapadey value.....some ppl cant find it in real life and nature.... | ||
Brightlife34 Side Hero Username: Brightlife34 Post Number: 3358 Registered: 11-2017 Posted From: 73.104.149.210 Rating: N/A |
i meant in britain bhayya... 1700s lo enno ayyayi kada | ||
Brightlife34 Side Hero Username: Brightlife34 Post Number: 3357 Registered: 11-2017 Posted From: 73.104.149.210 Rating: N/A |
dichotomy is very basic bhayya. who gets to decide how should the eco syatem be? is it cultural, social or economic. first 2 aithey 100 different views untayi just among hindus.. so where does it start? andukey anedi only economic growth binds all. and when it comes to politics lefticts excel at confusing right wing and traps them into fighting abstract battles | ||
Mental_sachinodu Megastar Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 22602 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 50.241.19.41 Rating: N/A |
vunkl - keertanalu ki emi thakva .. pieces of art that will live as long as we will exist. whats more sad is, we may have lost a lot of such treasure too. | ||
Ruj Megastar Username: Ruj Post Number: 22841 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 66.41.59.111 Rating: N/A |
adhe kada naa badhantha..  | ||
Brightlife34 Side Hero Username: Brightlife34 Post Number: 3356 Registered: 11-2017 Posted From: 73.104.149.210 Rating: N/A |
there were umpteen innovations done even before they came to india | ||
Ruj Megastar Username: Ruj Post Number: 22840 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 66.41.59.111 Rating: N/A |
asalu ee left right BJP enti uncle..come out of political party first..first we need to build an ecosytem..then go to BJP to implement our agenda..BJP doesnot even have an academic eco system..anduke unna daani continuing.. politics BJP fight is seperate..and this fight is seperate..at sometime we need political will to correct our education system but not there yet.. | ||
Siloan Legend Username: Siloan Post Number: 61079 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 132.174.20.41 Rating: N/A |
inkaa deep ga ellithe brahmin bashingantaaru ...gatham gatha ...mistakes ni heartful ga fist acknowledge chesi appudu thodagodithe beshugga vuntadi ekkkado china rom lo traveloggers chepte tappa mana tejassu telvani dayaneeyamaina pozition..who are the CULPRITS hegam babai ? | ||
Ruj Megastar Username: Ruj Post Number: 22839 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 66.41.59.111 Rating: |
India had an extensive school system..britishers did survey on it from 1800-1830..math astronomy literature were some of the subjects..they(britishers) classified the students into 3 groups..brahmins, vaishya and rest all population they put the grouping under sudra..offical grouping of sudras in south india starts from there.. in schools sudra enrollment was much higher than brahmin or vaishya(of course sudra population also higher..but still wanted to point out that as the very idea sudra attending schools is alient to us as far as our history is concerned) this survery was conducted in madras presidency punjab and bengal presidencies.. aa timeki madras presidency student enrollment itself was much higher than entire england school enrollment..englsnd lo mostly it was biblical studies while math astronomy and other subjects were taught here.. after this survey they(britishers) devised a plan, put restrictions on financing the schools..that eventually broke the school system.. and then they started english schools and cherry picked castes who can attend those schools..like brahmins only..to control population..and rest is history.. please read book The Beautiful Tree: Indigenous Indian Education in the Eighteenth Century by Dharampal..based on british archives.. i wanted to open a new thread with numbers of students by caste..time dorakatledu..so if u guys interested read that book.. in fact mahatma gandhi protested as well on these issues ani chadiva..a while ago i also read he wrote a letter to british telling them we were quite better off 100yrs ago then present(around 1930s)..i'll have to go back and check ... | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 68097 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.231.21 Rating: N/A |
naaku samajh ayyindi enti ante..British vollu vaalla history books lo raasukonnar.. but no mention of that famine in Indian history books written by Indian historians ani kavi bhavam | ||
Brightlife34 Side Hero Username: Brightlife34 Post Number: 3354 Registered: 11-2017 Posted From: 73.104.149.210 Rating: N/A |
leftists oka manchi trap esaru right wing ki vallu eppudu power loki vachina aa trap lo padi gila gila kottukuntaru perfect diversionary tactics from left... i do not care what thapar of some xyz thinks about our past.. i expect some actions from bjp by force or reason like UCC, syodhya, anti conversion, pro coversion back etc etc asalu basic steps teeskuntey we can think about past, entha sepu self loathing endi.. | ||
Mental_sachinodu Megastar Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 22599 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 50.241.19.41 Rating: N/A |
lol, i quechen every one re.. nasa candidate | ||
Raman Legend Username: Raman Post Number: 60170 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 122.164.168.163 Rating: N/A |
bhakti unnavadu keertanalu rasukuntadu .. history books andariki unnai kings darbarulo undetollu .. but mana parliament book laga rajuki nachinde andulo undedi anukunta . kaani westernmedia oppukodu kada books vallave history vallade | ||
Discoveringself Side Hero Username: Discoveringself Post Number: 3239 Registered: 01-2016 Posted From: 136.2.16.183 Rating: N/A |
adey zeal tho, tippu sulthan maha goppodu anna romila/guha type crap ni....conquesting religions are real good and great annappudu, question chesaavaa?...........u musugu communist......now ur mask is off....... just kidding re...... whichever side it is, we need to look at facts....and accept the truth as it is....... | ||
Mental_sachinodu Megastar Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 22598 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 50.241.19.41 Rating: N/A |
so you are content to trade one set of lies with another . or are you shocked that there was distortion. like i said earlier.. true indian history is not written yet. and this does not seem to be true indian history AS WELL | ||
Teenmaar Side Hero Username: Teenmaar Post Number: 7427 Registered: 02-2011 Posted From: 174.202.3.61 Rating: N/A |
To be presice, british inserted sense to our culture . which helped our cultural advancement. | ||
Ruj Megastar Username: Ruj Post Number: 22838 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 66.41.59.111 Rating: N/A |
masterru ee thread kaani ee book discussion kaani history discussion kaani aa 5% ee chestondhi..first come out of self loathing mindset..the bad that happened has been exaggerated and poised as if its ur entire history..thats not true..the fault lines that were exploited as far as india is concerned, no other civilization went through.. at a minimal if not interested atleast lets not post negative about people who are doing it.. | ||
Mental_sachinodu Megastar Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 22597 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 50.241.19.41 Rating: N/A |
Francois Gautier books are pretty good. but I suspect the article. The book was written in 2013, and to me, it does not seem accurate. if it were indeed from the book, I would still question it. between, Gautier's rewriting indian history , from 90's is a very good book. >>According to British records, one million Indians died of famine between 1800-25; 4 million between 1825-50: 5 million in 1850-1875; and 15 million by 1875-1900. example, it says British records say this, so isnt it already written in our history? or is he contesting that ? things like this are making me suspicious | ||
Shikari Megastar Username: Shikari Post Number: 28430 Registered: 03-2010 Posted From: 124.123.63.204 Rating: |
manollu history ekkada rasaru asalu..daricherara daricherara ani keerthanalu rasukunta busy ga unte. http://i.imgur.com/eUYcc.gif | ||
Teluguhero Side Hero Username: Teluguhero Post Number: 3144 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 73.104.252.173 Rating: |
I dont have any idea about those medical institutes and may be wrong that mentioned in this article. The point is you are so concerned about some in lies in this particular article,same way we are concerned about lies and distorted facts in history books and that continued in last 70 years and now they are not ready to rewrite history.More than being rewritten they need to be fair to their own countrymen and tell the truth as it is. | ||
Ruj Megastar Username: Ruj Post Number: 22837 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 66.41.59.111 Rating: N/A |
i dont know where he got this number from..hopefully he gives some reference.. but that doesnot take away from the fact that britishers destroyed our well established education system and then imposed english education selectively on hand picked castes to control the population.. | ||
Raman Legend Username: Raman Post Number: 60165 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 122.164.168.163 Rating: N/A |
vijayanagara kingdome felled by muslim subedars back stabbing .. ittanti historical fact ni leftist writer and nehru kalsi khuni chesi ramarayalde mottam tappu anatlu chuparu .. | ||
Ruj Megastar Username: Ruj Post Number: 22836 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 66.41.59.111 Rating: N/A |
for people who want to understand what britishers did to india..look at the GDP growth rate. From 1century AD through 1750 AD we were mostly no1/no2 in the world .. from 1750-1850 our share fell from 24% to 14%..and from 1850 t0 by the time when we got our independence our share fell to 2 %..just 2 centuries clock completely reversed.. what islamic invasions couldnot do to india britishers succeded..yes islamic invasions destroyed temples,looted stuff, converted people but couldnot break the spirit of india..could not take away its wealth..where islamic invasions failed britishers suceeded.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angus_Maddison#/media/File:1_A D_to_2003_AD_Historical_Trends_in_global_distribution_of_GDP _China_India_Western_Europe_USA_Middle_East.png Angus maddison is a bit liberal here numbers wise..paul bairoch was even stronger in his numbers..put the loot at much higher level.. idhi just gdp to provide a perspective..that kind of plagarism that happened to rewritre our stuff, to impose racist theories, break our education systems..there were 20+ recorded famines from 1880-1920...list goes on and on. ikkademo korchuni valu technology icharu anta..emi icharu ra babu..entire industrial revolution india missed..they only put trains that too for transporting goods for their needs..later on which was leveraged for passengers..asalu emi technology icharu valu cheppandi ra nayana..its i like i kick u from ur house and give u a glass..and u say they gave me glass atleast..i dont understand.. | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 68093 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.231.21 Rating: N/A |
article raasinodu..wrote an excerpt of the book book was variginally written by Francois Gautier ayana gurrinchi special gaa cheppalsina avasaram ledu.. book might have some saffron shades to it..but truths lekunda vonly masala aithe undadu..for sure.. | ||
Mental_sachinodu Megastar Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 22596 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 50.241.19.41 Rating: |
I dont know whats your point. if you want to share articles or books that have contributed "more than" the faulty history that we know of. I am ears. if its about communists with bias... i wont waste your time. there is much and more that has been written on this, and there will be people who will continue to write. my objection here is just on this particular artcile. it has way too many lies in it.especially for an article that claims "how it was" than "how it is written" if you think this article is "true" and "real history", all I would say is, please do some research before you accept it. | ||
Teluguhero Side Hero Username: Teluguhero Post Number: 3143 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 73.104.252.173 Rating: |
LOL lack of study ? Communist writers and congress supporters deliberately distorted Indian history.If really due to "lack of study" then why didn't they accept their mistakes and correct history books | ||
Platypus Side Hero Username: Platypus Post Number: 9623 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 77.100.60.41 Rating: N/A |
Agree to some extent on the technological development angle but cultural development? We've had a rich culture dating back to the Genesis. And it has been developing ever since. What the british did - was to bring their idea of culture to India - which, needless to say, was at odds with what we believed in - a clash of western and eastern sensibilities. This world appearance is a confusion: even as the blueness of the sky is an optical illusion. I think it is better not to let the mind dwell on it, but to ignore it. | ||
Mental_sachinodu Megastar Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 22593 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 50.241.19.41 Rating: |
the problem with this is - the article is very untruthful. if i start laying out the problems in the article, I will be seen as against indian history. So let me try to put this way. 1) Our written is history distorted, and does not address a lot of the cultural, educational or philosophical advancements of pre-islamic era. 2) The bias in this "written" history was not always because of bias, but mainly because of lack of "study" of indian history. 3) There were extreme bigots on the british side of aisle who f'ed up, at the same time, there were many british folks who helped "indian cause". Please dont fall for these "political" articles. even if there is are shreds of truth, the detail is very misleading. Also, India did have its fair share problems as well. we addressed many, addressing a few.. and hopefully will keep working on ourselves. look at this statement - and tell me how much of you think is true, even if you did not do much research. "Along with misinformation�for example, that India had a wretched education system when in Madras alone there were 125,000 medical institutes before the Whites came�England�s colonization inflicted a terrible toll on lives, industry and culture in India. " Even if there were 1000 medical institutes in Madras, I would still cringe to accept such an article. | ||
Xxx Hero Username: Xxx Post Number: 17338 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 24.74.65.205 Rating: N/A |
riedrich Schlegel, was a German poet, literary critic, philosopher, philologist and Indologist. Eisenstein is from Germany , Tagore is from India - | ||
Raman Legend Username: Raman Post Number: 60151 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 122.164.168.163 Rating: N/A |
we dont need anti conversion law all we need is ucc .. give muslim women the needed education and freedom .. so flow will be from both sides . ikkada okallu valla ladies ni paradallo undali ani sasinchi pakka religion ladies ni recha gottudu for silly things .. sabarimali issue is one such example women ki mosque lo husband to kalsi velle pravesam ledugani pakka religion oka temple lo oka age group of ladies not allowing ni pedda machaga choopdam .. at the same time they want to protect polygamy triple talaq and burkha system | ||
Vipersting Junior Artist Username: Vipersting Post Number: 259 Registered: 09-2018 Posted From: 12.132.212.82 Rating: |
Before the British, There was no concept of India as a one single country with fixed borders. It was a collection of 1000s of small kingdoms. Most of the Kings were bad too, fighting among themselves. So for me, Hindu Kings or Muslim invaders or British colonists are basically same people who want to rule the land. We got democracy only after Independence. So to say Things were wonderful before the British and Moghuls is fooling ourselves. If we were so technologically advanced, It would've been really tough for the Invaders. The author says something about Medical institutes in India before the British. Why was there so much Infant Mortality then ? Out of fear for our religion, Propagating Bull shit ideas is dangerous for the Integrity of the Nation. Religion should be individual. If there's only 1 Hindu left in India and he's able to practice his Religion freely, What else do we need ? Why should we care about who's getting converted as they are acting within the constitution ? Do you want to keep track of a billion Hindus ? | ||
Teluguhero Side Hero Username: Teluguhero Post Number: 3142 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 73.104.252.173 Rating: N/A |
Not my statement. check below German philosopher said about ancient India
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Brightlife34 Side Hero Username: Brightlife34 Post Number: 3353 Registered: 11-2017 Posted From: 73.104.149.210 Rating: N/A |
karam pettamanu bhayya i dont objct to that. that is my point, y conc energies on mending something that no one has seen. oka strong law tendi against conv and also actively conv people | ||
Teluguswift Junior Artist Username: Teluguswift Post Number: 570 Registered: 07-2014 Posted From: 173.224.161.129 Rating: N/A |
Agree.Even if you dig the past ,how many sections of people feel they are really happy those times. For a larger section of people,present society is better in terms of economic and social welfare. Ofcourse this is not the ideal one but definitely better than older society. | ||
Teenmaar Side Hero Username: Teenmaar Post Number: 7426 Registered: 02-2011 Posted From: 174.202.3.61 Rating: N/A |
The only reason i hate british is how they left, All those years they kept the ••• organized and perfect shape , one day at the stroke of midnight they just opened gates and left. who does that??? They had 100 years of relationship and left just like that . | ||
Brightlife34 Side Hero Username: Brightlife34 Post Number: 3352 Registered: 11-2017 Posted From: 73.104.149.210 Rating: N/A |
what makes you think all of our current cultre and tech is british gift. vallu vadili 70yrs aindi, ee 70yr lo pakista, bang and india path choodoachu kada since all started at same time, y only india is better or flip it, if brits are so cultural and advanced, what makes them cleaning their own mess now | ||
Brightlife34 Side Hero Username: Brightlife34 Post Number: 3351 Registered: 11-2017 Posted From: 73.104.149.210 Rating: N/A |
i do not agree bhayya. economic well being and growth are the binding factors. no matter how you slice and dice it, we have many schisms within our society. you will get a sense of pride about your past only if your present is good. manam antey pyramid lo top 5% so manaki easy to think through. andariki avi kudaravu and in that context, with already a fractured social set up, meedling with history will do more bad than good | ||
Ruj Megastar Username: Ruj Post Number: 22835 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 66.41.59.111 Rating: N/A |
on youtube | ||
Teenmaar Side Hero Username: Teenmaar Post Number: 7425 Registered: 02-2011 Posted From: 174.202.3.61 Rating: N/A |
current affairs, i m talking abt history dont mix | ||
Ruj Megastar Username: Ruj Post Number: 22834 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 66.41.59.111 Rating: N/A |
biggest lie ever..they destroyed everything and anything..its not even possible to explain the level of destruction.. its like they steal your bungalow properties everything and throw your family on roads..and starve ur next 3 generations who continue to live on roads..and finally give a very thick blanket to kid from your 4th generation and that kid thinks ..wow because of them i atleast got a blanket if not i was sleeping naked on road..thats what they did to india.. | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 68089 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.231.21 Rating: N/A |
Add Cardiac Coherence Breathing Exercise to the list ...LOL | ||
Raman Legend Username: Raman Post Number: 60149 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 122.164.168.163 Rating: |
leftist scum has conveniently hidden facts .. minority appeasement to majority kompa muncharu .. india is the only country where major religion is getting converted into minor day in-out .. where as other countries lo kosi karam edataru .. infact religious conversion is punishable(death sentence) in some countries (major to minor only) | ||
Mandharam Side Hero Username: Mandharam Post Number: 5286 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.163.5.9 Rating: |
mundhu venaka choosi nadavatam manchidhi it confirms whether we are moving forward or backwards if we forget history, we can never find out whether we are moving back or forth | ||
Brightlife34 Side Hero Username: Brightlife34 Post Number: 3350 Registered: 11-2017 Posted From: 73.104.149.210 Rating: N/A |
i would agree but they are unable to fix their own problem. scottish referendum and brexit despite being 5% of our size.. i will accept once they start fixing their own | ||
Last_avataar Hero Username: Last_avataar Post Number: 11363 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 139.71.144.8 Rating: N/A |
Telusu Bro, Let him enjoy and let other also enjoy.. we all know , he does it for fun, so do we | ||
Ruj Megastar Username: Ruj Post Number: 22833 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 66.41.59.111 Rating: |
vunkle complete wrong notion idhi.. we got to rewrite our history..very important. We(majority hindus) are being potrayed as non natives(aryan invasion) and caste suppressors..they adjusted and fabricated all of our dharmic cultures timelines as per biblical sources..emanna ante indus valley nundi modhalu pedathar..today all over india excavations showing much much earlier cultures existed. Asalu indus valley isnot our crux at all.. ..anthe kaadu they are slowly digesting all of our contributions from math, astronomy, metallurgy, philosophy,spiritual teachings. medicine and then appropriating rewriting them from western point of view(sometimes christianity point of view) and cutting off references and posing them as new discoveries with english terminologies so that we cant even trace back.. ee ram mandir etc lantivi BJP choosukuntadi..but we need to fight this battle on multiple fronts..we got to get back our legacy.. if ur interested check rajiv malhotra ,nilesh oak, raj vedam etc. | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 68088 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.231.21 Rating: N/A |
kurrod atla flighted balls vesthuntadu.. evaro okalu frustration tho boothulu thitti ban ayyithe ..venjoy seddamani.. same strategy..every day..LOL | ||
Last_avataar Hero Username: Last_avataar Post Number: 11362 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 139.71.144.8 Rating: N/A |
Its Good to learn the reality of Indian History, but there is no need to demean people like Nehru who might have been influences by his English education. But he was always the true Nationalist and Great Leader and Freedom Fighter. The writer of the book should simply write the facts and the author of the article should write about the book rather than adding his own flavours | ||
Teenmaar Side Hero Username: Teenmaar Post Number: 7423 Registered: 02-2011 Posted From: 174.202.3.61 Rating: |
They both were part of british india. They united them all. It is not easy job. we are not very thankful people, I think they should have made queen our permanent president and head of the upper house. | ||
Raman Legend Username: Raman Post Number: 60147 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 122.164.168.163 Rating: |
BOTTOM LINE ADI KAADU .. there are two poisonous religions in the world which have killed or in the process of killing other older religions in the world .. idi 30% of hindus are either converted or killed or migrated from pakistan/bangla now at 1-2% 2% of muslims 0.2% of christians have become 155 and 5% officially in hindu india .. who is tolerant who is not anedi telustondi kada openly | ||
Last_avataar Hero Username: Last_avataar Post Number: 11361 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 139.71.144.8 Rating: |
True it was extremely difficult for some people to even understand what is the essence and soul of a culture ... Probably Europe and Middle eastern people also did similar sacrifice during the era of Crusade , to acquire a great culture from faith fanatics | ||
Brightlife34 Side Hero Username: Brightlife34 Post Number: 3348 Registered: 11-2017 Posted From: 73.104.149.210 Rating: |
pakistan and bangladesh ki tetam marchipoyara  | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 68085 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.231.21 Rating: |
please read about how Africa was divided if you think..plundering natural resources of a country/continent is bringing culture ..good luck to you you have really understood the history books written by Romila Thapar ji | ||
Tombrady Legend Username: Tombrady Post Number: 67793 Registered: 05-2012 Posted From: 216.163.220.32 Rating: |
ignorance at it's best | ||
Brightlife34 Side Hero Username: Brightlife34 Post Number: 3347 Registered: 11-2017 Posted From: 73.104.149.210 Rating: |
not fabricated. some true some hyped some false. now who will decide whats true and what is fabricated | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 68084 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.231.21 Rating: N/A |
ante nizalu veru gaa unnaya...are you saying it is fabricated ?.LOL | ||
Teenmaar Side Hero Username: Teenmaar Post Number: 7422 Registered: 02-2011 Posted From: 174.202.3.61 Rating: |
This shows how difficult it was to bring culture to india and africa, It wasnt easy- white mans burden Thank you bengal, bengalis sacrificed for a greater cause | ||
Brightlife34 Side Hero Username: Brightlife34 Post Number: 3345 Registered: 11-2017 Posted From: 73.104.149.210 Rating: N/A |
raju ji why blood boiling. british vadu emi naaku name ivvamani cheppledu kada, history ala document chesaru and it is a baggage. will take time to get off your back. ennani maarustham past lo.. for ex most of accountants and govt officers in british time were brahmins, civil services intriduce chesinappudu andaru brahmins ee unnaru kada and working for british..that does not mean Bs are bad no. good bad untayi, be positive | ||
Whitecollar Megastar Username: Whitecollar Post Number: 23145 Registered: 03-2016 Posted From: 76.125.76.78 Rating: |
adhi kuda British valla ki backup food kosam veni.. vidi.. vici.. | ||
Xxx Hero Username: Xxx Post Number: 17337 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 24.74.65.205 Rating: N/A |
name few ? wheel ? fire ? bread ? Dynamite ? space research ? Name one who patents that are equal to alfred nobel? - | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 68081 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.231.21 Rating: |
4 million Bengalis ni artificial famine tho sampina British vodu manaki great.. | ||
Teenmaar Side Hero Username: Teenmaar Post Number: 7421 Registered: 02-2011 Posted From: 174.202.3.61 Rating: |
The British were the ones who brought cultural and technological development to India. You should respect them more. | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 68079 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.231.21 Rating: |
Already new panel lo judge unavailable..another tareeq vasthundi..LOL comedy ayyipoyindi..25+ years case ante.. ade Deepavali sounds ..Sabarimala case ante ...Saturday night 2 am ki special judge judgements isthar... eella kaamedy ni kaakulethukella.. | ||
Meghan Side Hero Username: Meghan Post Number: 4808 Registered: 03-2014 Posted From: 65.155.135.21 Rating: |
Bottomline : Hinduism is soul of India, So let Hinduism flourish Vedas are abse for whatever development you see today, Jai Vedas Even if it is True mee thathalu nethulu taagarani ippudu mee muthulu nakalemu | ||
Brightlife34 Side Hero Username: Brightlife34 Post Number: 3344 Registered: 11-2017 Posted From: 73.104.149.210 Rating: N/A |
why do we try and worry about history. first present lo sonia, vadra, rahul ni bokkalo veddam next ram mandir kadada conversions stop chesi, ghar wapsi cheddam | ||
Teluguhero Side Hero Username: Teluguhero Post Number: 3141 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 73.104.252.173 Rating: N/A |
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Teluguhero Side Hero Username: Teluguhero Post Number: 3139 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 73.104.252.173 Rating: |
https://www.opindia.com/2019/01/a-history-of-india-as-it-hap pened-not-as-it-has-been-written/ A history of India as it happened: Not as it has been written The author presents various evidence that the study of India’s culture, history and philosophy was the flavour of Europe’s schools and universities until the 19th century. Most now know that the Indian history we read is fabricated. It’s been a handiwork of Nehruvian academicians and Marxist scholars who fear the revival of Hinduism in a largely Hindu country. A nation without identity is easier to manipulate and confuse than the one conscious of its identity. Hinduism is older than Islam and Christianity by thousands of years but it’s in the interest of both monotheist religions to obliterate the only Pagan religion still going strong. Thus money pours in from foreign shores in the form of NGOs and aids to Masjids. Within India, not as much judiciary as media, do the damage. The goal is to keep India apart from its soul. The revisionism of India’s history books has gained ground in recent decades. Among many such soldiers of truth is Francois Gautier, a foreign French journalist who loved India so much that he stayed put in this country since 1971. Among his many books is “A History Of India As It Happened: Not as it has been written” which is in circulation for a few years now but is worth every second of yours. The compass of the book is huge even though in terms of pages it doesn’t count more than 236 pages. It picks up threads from the very beginning to right up to the Narendra Modi era which suggests a rather fleeting, and not reflective, approach by the author though perfectly justified if the attempt is aimed at initiating the innocents to the truth, and not lose them by a dense exposition. Though the insight into our times is no less interesting—for instance, Mother Teresa’s mission was to convert India to Christianity (Did she ever say a good thing about Hinduism?) – this review would restrict itself to four epochs of India’s history which have been mutilated by Nehruvian-Marxist forces. INDIA IN PRE-ISLAMIC ERA Surely this was the most glorious spell of India’s history much of which has been distorted, buried or mocked at as unscientific—we all are witness to the derision our newspapers reserve for Science Congress where our glorious past is elucidated. So let’s dive straightaway into it. American mathematician A. Seindenberg has conclusively shown that the ancient Vedic mathematics, Sulbasturas, have inspired all the mathematical sciences of the antique world—from Babylonia to Egypt to Greece. Western world traces all its culture, heritage, philosophy etc to Greek world whose religion was definitely pagan and deeply inspired by Hindu practices. Interestingly, till the 19th century, Europe acknowledged the supremacy of Hinduism as the fountain of all wisdom which shaped humanity. But once colonization gained roots and Christian missionaries spread far and wide, they couldn’t have accepted India as the land of eternal wisdom for their propagated mission was to civilize the barbarians. How could they admit that their very culture was derived from these savages? How could missionaries accept that their own religion was influenced by these very heathens? The author presents various evidence that the study of India’s culture, history and philosophy was the flavour of Europe’s schools and universities until the 19th century. Anquetil-Duperron had translated the Upanishads in 1801; Eugene Burnouf published in 1844 an “introduction to Indian Buddhism”; in Paris was created the first chair of Sanskrit. Famous writers and philosophers such as Edgar Quinet, Ernest Renan, Hippolyte Taine or Charles Renouvier were teaching Indian philosophy in academic institutions. The remarkable historian Michelet wrote: “From India comes a torrent of light, a river of Right and Reason.” Famous Indianist Jean Herbert reminds us that “many centuries before us, India had devised most of the philosophical systems which Europe experienced with later…Egypt and Greece owe India their wisdom.” German philosopher Frederich Shlegel said that “ India is not only at the origin of everything, but she is also superior in everything, intellectually, religiously or politically—and even the Greek heritage seems to pale in comparison.” Friedrich Nietzsche said: “Buddhism and Brahminism are a hundred times deeper and more objective than Christianity.” But late in the 19th century, Europe became “Helleno-Centric” (Greece-centred). As per French philosopher and journalist Roger-Pol Droit, it was philosopher Friedrich Hegel who sowed its seeds: “Hegel didn’t discover the Greeks; he created them and made up for them a destiny and thoughts which they didn’t always have.” India suffered greatly at the resultant manipulation of history. Aryan Invasion Theory was one such fall-out. It was depicted that migrants/invaders from Central Asia pushed the local populace of north-west India to the south and gave India its’ language and culture, including Vedas. That they moved in around 1500 BC which is a blatant lie: If Vedas were as recent then how come Saraswati river, which disappeared in 2200 BC, is mentioned 50 times in Rig Veda? Since Harappan Civilization is said to be flourishing in 3100-1900 BC, Rig Veda must be in existence by 4000 BC. The author doesn’t hold himself back: “Aryan Invasion Theory was imposed upon the subcontinent by its colonizers and is today kept alive by Nehruvian historians.” For example in the “Dictionary of Philosophers,” there is no mention of Buddhist philosopher Asanga whose work is as important as those of Aristotle. None of Asanga’s books are in Europe’s libraries even as Nietzsche’s letters to his mother when he was only six are treated as intellectual marvels! A few historical facts which we are not told are worth mentioning. For instance, Chandragupta, who founded the Maurya dynasty came from a low caste (so much for India’s “reprehensible” caste system). His administrative set-up was so efficient that it was later retained by Muslims and even English. In true Indian traditions, Chandragupta renounced the world during his last years and lived as an anchorite at the feet of the Jain saint Bhadrabhau in Shravanabelagola, near Mysore. Most wouldn’t know that the Bhakti movement was developed in South India during the Pallavas; India’s influence extended to Mecca where Shiva’s black lingam was worshipped by the Arabians. A few things Hindu critics need to bear in mind: Brahmins may have been the biggest in the caste system but they were poor and didn’t seize political power; “democracy” was long in vogue –even the great Ashoka was defeated in his power tussle with his Council and had to practically abdicate; Indian sculpture was unique for its complete sense of ego-very a few of India’s sculptural masterpieces are signed for instance; Hindus always worshipped at non-Hindu places, such as Melngani, the Christian place of pilgrimage of South India; or some Sufi shrine in Kashmir or Rajasthan. ISLAM AND THE MUSLIM INVASION The massacres of local populace by Muslims in India are unparalleled in history, bigger than the Holocaust. Babur killed hundreds of thousands of Hindus and razed thousands of temples. His ultimate goal was the destruction and the enslaving of the Hindus; Aurangzeb had the “satnamis of Alwar” massacred to the last one, leaving one entire region empty of human beings: Conquest of Afghanistan in 1000AD was followed by the wiping out of the entire Hindu population—or Hindu Kush (Slaughter of Hindus); Bahmani sultans in Central India made it a rule to kill 100,000 Hindus a year; In 1399, Teimur killed 100,000 Hindus in a single day (and an Indian Bollywood star still considers the name worthy of bestowing it on his son); the last Jihad against the Hindus was waged by the much glorified Tipu Sultan at the end of the 18thcentury. As per renowned professor K.S. Lal, Hindu population declined by 80 million between 1000-1525AD. And how the Nehruvian and Marxists adherents view this barbarity? This is Pt Jawaharlal Nehru: “Mahmud of Ghazni was in the first place a soldier and a brilliant soldier”. Amazing on a man who was proud of desecrating hundreds of temples and made it a duty to terrorize and humiliate pagans. Historians Romila Thapar, Harbhans Mukhia and Bipin Chandra, once professors at the JNU, are also cited. Sample this from Thapar: “Aurangzeb’s supposed intolerance is little more than a hostile legend based on isolated acts…” Come on Thapar- How can one be so dishonest or so blind? The author views the flight of Hindus from Kashmir; or of 26/11 in Mumbai as a reminder that the Mughal cry for the House of Islam in India is not over yet. BRITISH COLONIZATION Along with misinformation—for example, that India had a wretched education system when in Madras alone there were 125,000 medical institutes before the Whites came—England’s colonization inflicted a terrible toll on lives, industry and culture in India. Industrially, the British strangled the local industries. They finished products, such as textiles, which had made India famous and power in the world. Instead, they turned them towards jute, cotton, tea, oil seeds, which Britain needed as raw materials for their home industries. Britain employed cheap labour for their enterprises and didn’t care for the perishing traditional artisans. And let’s also not forget how English exported Indian labour all over the world in their colonies—whether to Sri Lanka, Fiji, South Africa or to the West Indies. The author also points out the conversion aims of Christian missionaries. For example, International School of Kodaikanal, under the guise of religious studies, still tries to convert its students, most of whom are Indians. According to British records, one million Indians died of famine between 1800-25; 4 million between 1825-50: 5 million in 1850-1875; and 15 million by 1875-1900. PRE-INDEPENDENCE ERA The book hurtles along swiftly on the pre-independence era and makes you chuckle under the breath. Till the 19thcentury, the Congress regarded British rule in India as “divine dispensation”; Quit India was not for India’s independence but because Gandhi refused to cooperate in the Second World War; For all his fight in South Africa, Gandhi achieved “second class citizenship” for the Indians; Islam’s political institutions were semi-barbaric; Sufism is a lift of Gnostics who lived in Persia and influenced by Vedanta; Nehru went for socialism when there was no class conflict in India. The book asks some serious questions on Kashmir, and on a bigger scale on Islam. Kashmir once was entirely made up of Hindus and Buddhists before they were converted by the invading Muslims six centuries ago. Even as recently as the advent of the 20thcentury, there were 25 per cent Hindus in the Kashmir valley. Today the last 350,000 Kashmiri Pandits are refugees in their own land. The author views it as a “much bigger ethnic cleansing than one of Bosnian Muslims or the Albanians in Yugoslavia.” There is a reflection on so-called human rights violations in the Valley. “If India decides to keep Kashmir, it has to do so according to the rules set by the militants: violence, death and treachery are the order of the day. As for the possibility of a referendum, the author foresees a situation where the likes of Farooq Abdullah and Ghulam Nabi Azad could come to power and then be “eliminated” by Jihads who would then hand over Kashmir to Pakistan. Not just Kashmir, but Punjab, Assam, Gorkhaland, Jharkhand and Tamil land all could go in the name of democracy and human rights. As for Islam, why it’s mentioned as a Muslim-Hindu question when it’s plainly a Muslim obsession, their hatred of the Hindu pagans? The RSS and VHP have never killed anybody, never massacred anybody in the name of their God. It’s an irony that those Hindus whose ancestors were raped, slaved and killed are giving a cry on Islam’s behalf today after being converted to the religion. (Jinnah himself was a descendant of a Hindu, named Jinnahbhai). There are some related questions too. Did Amnesty International, which questions the Indian state’s role in Kashmir, bother at all about the support given by the CIA to mujahiddins in Afghanistan and Pakistan? Do Pakistani or Bangladeshi bombers in Hyderabad or Mumbai could function with the help of India’s Muslims? Media is heavily censored. Hindus are killed in pogroms in Pakistan and Bangladesh (read Taslima Nasreen’s Lajja) but their deaths are not worth a tear; while Hindus are colonized, converted and killed, it’s they who are blamed and not those who did the heinous acts. The final word must go Sri Aurobindo on Islam: “The Islamic culture hardly gave anything to the world which may be said to fundamental importance and typically its own Islamic culture was mainly borrowed from the others.” |
