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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 10:56 pm:       


Andhravodu:


ledu because people understand she was doing her job
 

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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 10:26 pm:       


Jp_rocks:

Edward Bennett Williams


ee kurrodu politics lo vachada? ledu kada, eenaki, politics lo frontrunner ki theda leda?
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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 10:09 pm:       

Edward Bennett Williams (EBW) is a legendary defense attorney who had defended the most notorious criminals including Jimmy Hoffa and Frank Costello..i read his biography "The Man to See"......it is an amazing account of how this guy defended the most notorious cases using every loophole in the book..

ika adi chadivite meeranta chachina vadini malli lepi champela unnare?

anyway, kudirite the man to see chadavandi.....manchi movie teeyachu telugu lo..
 

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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 10:01 pm:       


Moviebuff001:

Would you defend Trump the same way for his company's bankruptcies? Because he was a great businessman!!!


No. It is not his 'duty' to run companies into the ground and file for bankruptcies....if he did it intentionally, it is plain wrong..if he did it because he had no other chhoice, that would make him a bad businessman...

anyway it is not an apple to apple comparison..hillary doing her job vs trump driving his business into the ground..

Bushu:

again nothing illegal, it's a judgment of character.


i don't think people can judge her for doing her job..she's the lesser evil for sure but i think it is wrong to use this specific incident to judge her character.

Cocanada:

tappu ni correct ga cheyyaalanukovadam inkaa pedda tappu


tappenti? dani job adi cheyatam, adi kuda baaga cheyatam tappa? she could use any means allowed by law to defend her client..
 

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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 09:53 pm:       


Moviebuff001:

Sentence padindi ante aadu rape chesadu kabatti kada? Ante aa ammayi character questionable ani aadini defend chesindi. How would she feel if it was her daughter?


take emotions out of the equation bro...as a defense attorney, she has the latitude to defend whichever way wins the case for her (as long as it is legal)...it is fully legal to portray the defendant in a bad light..again, it is her job to defend people - everyone, including rapists/killers/mass murderers have a constitutional right to be represented by an attorney
 

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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 09:09 pm:       


Asdf:

inni bokkal pettukuni shamsher ga tirugutundi ante dynasty politics vallane kada




Sanders kooda minority ayyuntey inkoka Obama range jhatka thagiledhi bamma ki. oka jew ki koncham kashtamey.
 

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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 09:07 pm:       


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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 09:05 pm:       


Bushu:

enni janmala paga idhi?




given a chance, i would vote her now due to the opponent.
inni bokkal pettukuni shamsher ga tirugutundi ante dynasty politics vallane kada
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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 09:01 pm:       


Asdf:

you mean, dumb criminal ?




:D enni janmala paga idhi?
 

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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 08:58 pm:       


Bushu:

he is this super ambitious women with the right connections, but someone very poor at politics




you mean, dumb criminal ?
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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 08:55 pm:       


Asdf:

certainly she is keeping up with the times




Sometimes I feel, she is this super ambitious women with the right connections, but someone very poor at politics. Mrs. Underwood without the smarts of Frank is no good. will be lost in blunderland.
 

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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 08:54 pm:       


Jp_rocks:




tappu ni correct ga cheyyaalanukovadam inkaa pedda tappu

ani Sonu Sood eppudooo cheppio
 

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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 08:52 pm:       


Bushu:

she may have evolved since then





insider trades
12 year old pilla character ni dissect chesi coerce seyatam

nunchi

email scandal. certainly she is keeping up with the times
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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 08:47 pm:       


Jp_rocks:

if anything, it looks like she had done a great job at defending the rapist going by the sentencing he got..




it is not the what, but the how. again nothing illegal, it's a judgment of character. she may have evolved since then of course and one can give her a benefit of doubt. black crime issue lo kooda mid 90s lo she made a wrong call and almost apologized recently. the point is she is no dhoodh ki dhuli, even now. people are just going for the lesser evil.
 

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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 08:15 pm:       


Jp_rocks:

are you guys serious?


I think I understand where they are coming from. There is generally a shock value when this kind of news hits. There is a lot of misinformation that over reaches . When I first heard of this around '98 during ken starr report times, I was similarly agitated. I despised Bill for ruining the institution's dignity and Hillary's assumed devil. But over the time I started seeing the rhetoric. How the double standards in play for Hillary. I still don't defend Bill but I think HILLARY is not as evil as she is made out to be...My stance significantly softened on her.

Since then this topic was discussed several times.. Particularly during 08 primaries and I heard several sides of arguments. In this particular case, the was quite a bit of misinformation.
 

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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 07:50 pm:       


Jp_rocks:



Sentence padindi ante aadu rape chesadu kabatti kada? Ante aa ammayi character questionable ani aadini defend chesindi. How would she feel if it was her daughter?
Would you defend Trump the same way for his company's bankruptcies? Because he was a great businessman!!!
 

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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 07:35 pm:       


Jp_rocks:

she had done a great job at defending the rapist


That's all
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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 07:29 pm:       

are you guys serious? her job as an attorney is to DEFEND people - it is comical to judge her by her profession

if anything, it looks like she had done a great job at defending the rapist going by the sentencing he got..
 

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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 03:52 pm:       


Cocanada:

Email is more of convenience than regular mode of business for the high level.



One example: Travel plans (Clinton, Aides and others) - Leak aite danger.


Rocketk2:

It is a bit naive to think SOS will send or discuss state secrets over email.



You BELIEVE so? Eyes and ears only???? Clinton website lo kooda different emails vadamu ilanti vatiki ani rasaru. But exclusive ga deny cheyyaledu that they didn't use personal email for top-secret information. Independed investigation lo 22 top secret emails ani decide chesaru.


Rocketk2:

We have already seen what the nature of these emails is



Link please.}
 

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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 01:43 pm:       


Cocanada:

vaadu president ayina vaadiki codes ivvaru anukunta


antha ledu, president annaka code vastadi. In reality, only president code saripodu, there is a big chain of command utilized in cases of emergency. andulo unna any of those persons veto cheyochu
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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 01:38 pm:       


Moviebuff001:

Of course, Trump kooda ee vishayam lo dangerous


vaadu president ayina vaadiki codes ivvaru anukunta
 

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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 01:37 pm:       


Moviebuff001:

security at stake. Grave mistake. Would you trust her with Nuclear codes? Of course, Trump kooda ee vishayam lo dangerous. But he is an unknown factor in this.


aNot completely true. Email is more of convenience than regular mode of business for the high level. State secrets will not be discussed over emails. At the max , they have office communication and scheduling. My belief is that if critical information was at stake, things would not have been so casual. The term classified has broad definition and keeps changing. It is a bit naive to think SOS will send or discuss state secrets over email. We have already seen what the nature of these emails is
 

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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 01:17 pm:       


Rocketk2:

Abortions is where I changed my position over time and I don't think I have clarity. I was a strong pro-life... But over the years I am starting to believe there is a commonsense argument to this . The day of conception is not same as day before birth. I think this should be left to individual with professional counseling from state. ( my wife who is prochoice believes this is a cop out position but I am not able to come terms with any other way)



Cop-out is real here. Prochoice is supposed to stop people from unprotected acts.
In case of rapes and health conditions, exceptions can be made.
 

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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 01:13 pm:       


Rocketk2:

Hillary emails is a mistake. She showed error in judgement . I don't believe there is criminal intent. It is a honest mistake/ over sight



Country security at stake. Grave mistake. Would you trust her with Nuclear codes? Of course, Trump kooda ee vishayam lo dangerous. But he is an unknown factor in this.
 

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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 01:11 pm:       


Rocketk2:

Absolutely true. Terrorism doesn't have a religion. Root cause is human narcissism. If there is no religion, there will be different ideology . This is struggle for mankind . Watch the movie Village in leisure.



Although this is true at a really broad level, I do not agree with this Dem stand. President has to be able to get the Arab countries to tackle this problem at root level in their countries. Lekapote, it cannot be solved. Trump is wrong in banning every Muz from entering the country but that may be what it takes to get the countries to the discussion table. Increase scrutiny in home countries. Make them accountable.
 

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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 12:20 pm:       

ee villary ke ee range fanism vammo, asala disco chesthunte positives vachayi

anatam super comedy, guruginja vuncle ki oka jagan oka hillary aipoyaru kada
 

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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 12:10 pm:       


Zulu:

but what other choice do you have?




Asdf:

ejjactly, much better than that idiot




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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 12:07 pm:       


Zulu:

but what other choice do you have?




ejjactly, much better than that idiot. antha ku minchi vere option led
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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 12:05 pm:       


Asdf:



ok alagey kanidham...bamma is evil..

but what other choice do you have?

he he ha..ha...
 

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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 11:59 am:       


Guriginja:

public defender vundedhe sontha defence afford cheyaleni vaalla kosam


pd's basic ga velli, plea bargain teesko, siksha taggistam ani cheppi, prosecutor tho deal matladi set chestaru. Paid cases unna lawyers pd teeskoru, pd chesedi new law grads or james mcgill laga pani m leni batch. 1975 time lo ela undedo naku teliyadu, present reality idi
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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 11:59 am:       


Thikka_sankara:

But, can such low stopping candidates be eligible to head a state??




pakkana trump vunde sariki standards ala edsinaai.
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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 11:57 am:       


Zulu:

but anthaka mundu oka rapist ni defend chesthu mana respected jetmalani saaru...victim ni charecterless ga portray chesadu..




jethmalani ni booths dobbedi anduke kada. dabbul iste tellals ki kooda argue chestaadu ani. India's top lawyer ayyundachu emo, i dont think he is respected universally for his cases
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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 11:56 am:       


Asdf:


agreed.
but hillary youth nunche fighter for anagaarina vargaalu etc argument is debunked with this. she is just another lawyer


run of the mill lawyers can stoop as low as they want to.... But, can such low stopping candidates be eligible to head a state??
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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 11:55 am:       


Zulu:


somebody brought nirbhaya into the argument, but anthaka mundu oka rapist ni defend chesthu mana respected jetmalani saaru...victim ni charecterless ga portray chesadu



Correctey.... But repoddunna vaadu pm candidate ante cheppu teesukkodataru
Perhaps nobody has changed the course of history as much as the historians. ~Franklin P. Jones"
 

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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 11:46 am:       


Zulu:

ut lawyers arguments atlagey untayi, i dont think we should hold it against them.




agreed.
but hillary youth nunche fighter for anagaarina vargaalu etc argument is debunked with this. she is just another lawyer
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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 11:44 am:       


Andhravodu:


And she was a public defender in this case, not a paid lawyer, kani went till the end to satisfy her ego. Same thing prez ga ayithe, doesn't matter right or wrong, benefit kanipiste vellipoddi, legal loopholes telusu




lol..public defender vundedhe sontha defence afford cheyaleni vaalla kosam....nee lekkalo public defender...tooch ani nam ke vast dooty seyyala lagundhi....bagundhi baagundhi.
 

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Zulu:

lawyers ye end ki aina veltharu to defend their clients...manaki vinadaniki bagodhu..kani they use every trick in the book to make their client


Correct. But she is portrayed as compassionate by her fans. aa illusion ni break cheyataniki ee example

And she was a public defender in this case, not a paid lawyer, kani went till the end to satisfy her ego. Same thing prez ga ayithe, doesn't matter right or wrong, benefit kanipiste vellipoddi, legal loopholes telusu
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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 11:32 am:       

lawyers ye end ki aina veltharu to defend their clients...manaki vinadaniki bagodhu..kani they use every trick in the book to make their client..

somebody brought nirbhaya into the argument, but anthaka mundu oka rapist ni defend chesthu mana respected jetmalani saaru...victim ni charecterless ga portray chesadu..

me..not a hillary fan..but lawyers arguments atlagey untayi, i dont think we should hold it against them.
 

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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 10:41 am:       


Asdf:




edo sinma soosinattundi...devils advocate or something.. same case ni defend chestad vero gadu...

denamma idi maree inta worst ani telvadu.. thupuk...
 

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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 10:38 am:       


Rocketk2:

If there is no religion, there will be different ideology




good luck convincing this! be it war of capitalists, genocide in the name of race, ethnic violence between tribes or radical terrorism - whatever be the face, the underlying criminal intent, selfish means or hatred is the same!
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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 10:32 am:       


Moviebuff001:


Now,
tellals ki matam ledu,
Abortions,
Hillary emails.
Verti stance kooda cheppu. Paduntadi.



Absolutely true. Terrorism doesn't have a religion. Root cause is human narcissism. If there is no religion, there will be different ideology . This is struggle for mankind . Watch the movie Village in leisure.

Hillary emails is a mistake. She showed error in judgement . I don't believe there is criminal intent. It is a honest mistake/ over sight

Abortions is where I changed my position over time and I don't think I have clarity. I was a strong pro-life... But over the years I am starting to believe there is a commonsense argument to this . The day of conception is not same as day before birth. I think this should be left to individual with professional counseling from state. ( my wife who is prochoice believes this is a cop out position but I am not able to come terms with any other way)
 

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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 09:58 am:       


Rocketk2:

For a topic that I don't even have nerve to discuss, she had gall to defend.




nijame. 12 year old girl mindset ni coerce chesi , oka paedo ni defend seyataniki kavalsindi gall. that makes her better prez candidate.

again, she can defend that person. but what mindset dissects a 12 year old kid like that?
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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 09:56 am:       


Rocketk2:

This particular(Orlando) incident is a bit unique.



Monna couple kooda I laga sesaru. Not that unique ani na view.
 

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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 09:55 am:       


Rocketk2:

That aside, I don't believe guns are sole reason for these incidents.



This a moderate argument. My stance is also the same.
Now,
tellals ki matam ledu,
Abortions,
Hillary emails.
Verti stance kooda cheppu. Paduntadi.
 

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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 09:38 am:       


Moviebuff001:

What is your stance on Gun policy kooda seppi.


gun control is needed. This particular(Orlando) incident is a bit unique. Advanced society lo evarini Vallu protect chesukovalsina situation vundakudadhu. We should be able to build a system, set of rules and safe guards. The times when citizens have to bear arms were different.

That aside, I don't believe guns are sole reason for these incidents. The latest weaponry amplifies the issue. There is more crime with illegally acquired weapons. But gun control measures will keep them away from unsafe hands to a large extent. I think it is reasonable with better background checks in leu of ownership ban
 

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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 09:22 am:       


Asdf:

as a lawyer, it was her job to defend that person.
but to suggest/argue that the 12 year old kid is into this thing, is ridiculous


I am not a lawyer, but with this point, I rest my case :D
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In my view, Hillary gets a pass in this issue.




in your view, when does she ever get a fail? :D

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Rocketk2:



Annai,
Dems propose chestunna Gun control ilantivatini aaputunda?
Reps propose chestunna open carry ilanti vishayallo help ayye chance unda?
What is your stance on Gun policy kooda seppi.
 

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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 08:34 am:       

as a lawyer, it was her job to defend that person.
but to suggest/argue that the 12 year old kid is into this thing, is ridiculous.
Sesani lo inta hater dagi unada malli neetulu baga chebutadu, lol - Gotcha
 

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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 08:33 am:       


Rocketk2:

several articles floating but here is excerpt from snopes which I tend to believe than left/right wing views


please don't hide behind the snopes article when it's bs. Listen to the tape video, it's a lot different, but snopes omits a major portion, clearly showing their bias
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Rocketk2:

Finally, outcome of that case was a plea bargain which included 5 yr jail term which the judge reduced to four year probation and one year jail term


That's because hillary was able to get the rape kit not tested. She had an argument. seriously, listen to the tape, she admits herself that she knew the guy was guilty, but got off on a technicality. Funny thing is, she didn't need to have brought this up, she was boasting to this guy during the interview in 80's to bring her resume up. But she becomes governer/president's wife after that and realizes everything has to be filtered, so writes in the book that judge orders that she has to take up the case
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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 08:12 am:       

Cant wait to see Trump knocking her off the stage in the debates.
 

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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 08:05 am:       


Rocketk2:

I deserved the symbolic spat


not you .. billary ..

Prasanth:


sort of .. pedda work em cheyyaled ivaala .. :D
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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 08:02 am:       


Tilak:


As I start defending her in this thread, I started seeing more positives ..
For a topic that I don't even have nerve to discuss, she had gall to defend.

That's as tough as a person can be and she will make a fine president defending constitution

I don't understand where I deserved the symbolic spat but I realized It is bery difficult to separate emotion out of this topic ..So I will back off!!!
 

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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 07:42 am:       


Tilak:


ofc lo botthiga P & M levanukuntaga
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Rocketk2:

Clinton opined to the court that they should have the complainant undergo a psychiatric exam because she [Clinton] had been "informed that the complainant is emotionally unstable with a tendency to seek out older men and to engage in fantasizing about persons, claiming they had attacked her body,"



Rocketk2:

she had been told by an expert in child psychology that "children in early adolescence tend to exaggerate or romanticize sexual experiences."



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So, what you are saying is that the article misquoted what Clinton said.


several articles floating but here is excerpt from snopes which I tend to believe than left/right wing views

"That affidavit documented that Hillary didn't assert the defendant "made up the rape story because [she] enjoyed fantasizing about men"; rather, it documented that Clinton opined to the court that they should have the complainant undergo a psychiatric exam because she [Clinton] had been "informed that the complainant is emotionally unstable with a tendency to seek out older men and to engage in fantasizing about persons, claiming they had attacked her body," and she had been told by an expert in child psychology that "children in early adolescence tend to exaggerate or romanticize sexual experiences."
 

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Rocketk2:

She did not say that 12 year had the tendency.



So, what you are saying is that the article misquoted what Clinton said.
 

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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 06:49 am:       

Trend batti trump gelustadu assalu ee aadollu ki president padavi deniki ippatike obama sappaga chesadu..Trump vasthe kick vastadi
 

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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 06:45 am:       


Moviebuff001:

exhibited "a tendency to seek out older men and engage in... fantasizing."
Best of her ability kosam 12 years pillani ila drag chesinda.... baboi


inka na valla kadhu ...
She did not say that 12 year had the tendency. She asked for evaluation citing a child psychiatrist report that adolescent from dysfunctional families have the tendency .
The argument also came from the fact that little girl was drunk and had sex with a 15 yr old before that incident.
I haven't seen anyone take this much flak for doing their job.

If you still hate her.. That is fine... Atleast, Attack her with facts.
 

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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 06:41 am:       

ee leftists and liberals arguments ela untai ante monnati daka jetmalani bjp tho unnappudu ethics leva?
ani savadobbi mallee nitishgani pakkana cheraka muskuni unnaru ..

valla argument valal sidhantam gelvali evadu ela m ayina no problem pata padukuntuu potaru
 

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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 06:24 am:       

arguing she had exhibited "a tendency to seek out older men and engage in... fantasizing."
Best of her ability kosam 12 years pillani ila drag chesinda.... baboi
 

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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 06:16 am:       


Tilak:

exactly my point ..


what is your point ??
Tilak, andhra and TS, meru a news chusi Hillary meedha opinion form chesukuntunnara... Form chesukoni aa news chsuthunnara. 'Cos that makes all the difference

Ee thread 3 times establish chesina fact ni kikkani, bokkani.. Friend Kosam favor ani distort chesthunnaru. Ae you after facts or do you have an agenda..Mannam kagitam meedha raseve facts ayithe..specific ga ee case endhuku.. Emotional angle ???

T_S, judicial system is based on the fact that 100 criminals can be acquitted but one innocent man should not be punished. That is pretty powerful if you calmly think over it. Hillary is not the prosecutor who attacked the girl. Hillary is the public defender assigned by the court that defended then alleged. when I said times were different, I meant it. As whole incident lo 40 yr old bought alcohol for 2'minors ane dhaniki asala attention ye ledhu .. Adhe ippudaithe that is enough to lock him up. We cannot judge the past. We should only try to understand it and use it to plot our future.

She did her job.. If anything you can be assured she will do her job how unpleasant it is.

When a person is in politics for too long, there wil be dirt. Hillary is no saint . It's for us to decide how much sin we can live with . Axelrod gadiki janam pulse telusu kabbatte he advised Obama to stay out of any critical bills until he contested for president. Okkadaina adigada why you did not vote for key issues ani.. Hopu .. Change ani gumpulu gumpulu ga vote yesaru.. Almost same policy tho vellina Hillary ni ... Ilage devil ni chesaru .. 8 yrs taruvatha how different are they both.??? Freaking double standard and people like you think she is being handed every thing on a platter..


Finally, outcome of that case was a plea bargain which included 5 yr jail term which the judge reduced to four year probation and one year jail term. Why do you think that is ??! He is not evil Hillary!!!. May be he saw something In the case that didn't deserve the maximum sentence of *agreed* plea. Kompa teesi judge heritage ni question cheyyaru kadha ?? Just checking

Also the outcome was consistent with 90% similar cases during that time. It was also opined that the guy would have walked free if the case went to trial.
 

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Andhravodu:

1. kick amma kicku
2. case gelipinchatam kosam. lawyer annaka 100% cheyali. never mind she was just a public defender and not a hired lawyer. Hillary edi chesina passion to chestadi


exactly my point .. avatala trughluk gadu untadam valla still she is getting away with all her dark deeds .. lekapothe eppudo ......
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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 12:07 am:       


Andhravodu:

brahmi: vallu manchollu bava
msn: evaru chepparu
brahmi: evaro chepte enduku nammutanu, valle chepparu




Yepp her intentions enti anevi verey evaru cheppaleru, so she can play them as it suits her the best... Kinda inko Evaro ratify chesaru annaru kada anyway, even idle we take what her intentions were at the face value of what she us saying now, there is more to blame at how she defended the accused....

Nirbhaya case lo ilage oka lawyer when he tried defending the accused by placing blame on victim, we all have shown our outrage (i am sure, including people supporting Hillary here)
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Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2016 - 11:42 pm:       


Thikka_sankara:

she didn't volunteer it seems, that's fine


Listen to the tape here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2f13f2awK4

around 40 second mark she says "I had one appear, a prosecutor called me years ago, said that he had a guy accused of rape.. and the guy wanted a woman lawyer"

"Would I do it as a favor to him" -- Favor for the prosecutor

In the biography written in 2003, the wording changed to
"I told Mahlon I really didn’t feel comfortable taking on such a client, but Mahlon gently reminded me that I couldn’t very well refuse the judge’s request." hmmm..... No mention of favors, but rather ordered by a judge. and ee picha snopes takes it at face value.

Anandam cinema lo brahmi/ms narayana dialog

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msn: evaru chepparu
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Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2016 - 11:36 pm:       

B/w more trouble brewing???


http://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/jun/12/wikileaks-to-pu blish-more-hillary-clinton-emails-julian-assange
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Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2016 - 11:27 pm:       


Tilak:


1) Why she volunteered to defend a rapist?


she didn't volunteer it seems, that's fine.... But her arguments and whatever she was suggesting was outrageous.... Trump ilantidi 1976 lo kaadu 1876 lo argue chesaadu Anna fry chese vaallu....ippudu defend cheyyadaniki kadtapadthunnaru
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Rocketk2:


then don't defend her....simple....

From the very link you posted


That affidavit documented that Hillary didn't assert the defendant "made up the rape story because [she] enjoyed fantasizing about men"; rather, it documented that Clinton opined to the court that they should have the complainant undergo a psychiatric exam because she [Clinton] had been "informed that the complainant is emotionally unstable with a tendency to seek out older men and to engage in fantasizing about persons, claiming they had attacked her body," and she had been told by an expert in child psychology that "children in early adolescence tend to exaggerate or romanticize sexual experiences."
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Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2016 - 11:25 pm:       


Tilak:

1) Why she volunteered to defend a rapist?
2) Why did she talk bad about a 12 year old victim?




1. kick amma kicku
2. case gelipinchatam kosam. lawyer annaka 100% cheyali. never mind she was just a public defender and not a hired lawyer. Hillary edi chesina passion to chestadi
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Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2016 - 11:18 pm:       


Rocketk2:

Aa incident jarigindhi 1975 lo and rape Laws were more lenient


tireless worker for female rights from when? 1976?
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Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2016 - 11:17 pm:       


Guriginja:

she is/ was an attorney..she was obligated to defend...and she did her duty like any other sincere attorney


she was a public defender and took the case for a friend, after being told they need a female lawyer. could have refused, and took another case, but no. Listen to the tape, she's clearly laughing, and says she knew he was guilty. I guess the moral compass doesn't work now
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Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2016 - 11:03 pm:       

What are Billarunnisa's defenses?

1) Why she volunteered to defend a rapist?
2) Why did she talk bad about a 12 year old victim?
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Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2016 - 09:37 pm:       


Guriginja:

pattataniki chala vunnayi...this is not the one anukuntunna


when Kayleigh mcenany( trump surrogate) bought this up on cnn, I jumped out of my chair. It's Shame how facts are bent distorted. This topic received a play in 2008 but died quickly as even republicans thought there was no merit to take forward.
Looks like no stone will be left unturned ... We may have to relive all the ugliness third or fourth time. Same arguments.. Some facts .. Lot of myths..It's going to be a long 6 months.
 

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I did read that part. its just sugar coating it anipinchindi.

I am not carried away by the rhetoric that she argued for the bad guy, but the way she did it
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Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2016 - 09:33 pm:       

Northwest Arkansas


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I read that already. amazed by the below


you probably need a redo.. That point is already addressed in the article . Unable to copy and paste
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2016 - 09:28 pm:       


Thikka_sankara:

Vaarini.... You can support Hillary all you want but ilaantivi kooda defend cheyyala.... Looks like a new religion is in offerring and recruitment is on for new set of bhakths....


this is the exact reason I don't like these arguments. Emotional issue lo facts tho discuss cheyyalemu. And I am feeling very uncomfortable talking this..
In my view, Hillary gets a pass in this issue.
Read the article I posted, and if that doesn't give you a perspective, there is nothing more I can add.

Aa incident jarigindhi 1975 lo and rape Laws were more lenient. Different times.... Can't pretend like
I know all.
 

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Thikka_sankara:

Vaarini.... You can support Hillary all you want but ilaantivi kooda defend cheyyala.... Looks like a new religion is in offerring and recruitment is on for new set of bhakths....




hillary ni tappu pattataniki chala vunnayi...this is not the one anukuntunna
 

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Vaarini.... You can support Hillary all you want but ilaantivi kooda defend cheyyala.... Looks like a new religion is in offerring and recruitment is on for new set of bhakths....
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*vundaru
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Guriginja:

ofcourse yevariki nacchindhi tesesukoni happies anuko...gawd bless.




12 year pilla ni emani coerce chesindo choosi happy ga feel ayye vallu vuntaru antukunta, hillary supporters lo
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Rocketk2:




I read that already. amazed by the below

//In a sworn affidavit aiming to coerce a psychiatric evaluation of the sixth-grade victim, Clinton during the case nearly 40 years ago called into question the girl's emotional stability, arguing she had exhibited "a tendency to seek out older men and engage in... fantasizing." She added, citing a child psychology expert that "children in early adolescence tend to exaggerate or romanticize sexual experiences and that adolescents with disorganized families, such as the complainant, are even more prone to such behavior."//
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Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2016 - 08:55 pm:       

she is/ was an attorney..she was obligated to defend...and she did her duty like any other sincere attorney....judge antene vadi judgement use cheyadam..avi rendu kalipesi dancing ante seppedemundhi....facebook lo saala yestharu..judgement manadhe final ga...what to take and what not to...ofcourse yevariki nacchindhi tesesukoni happies anuko...gawd bless.
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2016 - 08:27 pm:       

If you have patience, read this..
http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-freed-child-rapist-lau ghed-about-it/

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Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2016 - 07:11 pm:       

//In a sworn affidavit aiming to coerce a psychiatric evaluation of the sixth-grade victim, Clinton during the case nearly 40 years ago called into question the girl's emotional stability, arguing she had exhibited "a tendency to seek out older men and engage in... fantasizing." She added, citing a child psychology expert that "children in early adolescence tend to exaggerate or romanticize sexual experiences and that adolescents with disorganized families, such as the complainant, are even more prone to such behavior."//
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Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2016 - 07:09 pm:       

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-stands-by-her-de fense-of-1975-rape-suspect/

no, am not demonizing her nor doing a witch hunt.
fb lo ee meme share aithe google chesaanu

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young age lo ne fighter gatra ante ento anukunna. orey trump ga, pls fkin make way for a sane candidate to fight this .itch
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