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Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2016 - 10:46 pm:      

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Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2016 - 10:36 pm:      


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but oka 50-100 years



Already close to 65 years (1950 nunchi count cheste)
There is something else missing here.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2016 - 09:20 pm:      

podduna legisthe ecec ani thoda kothaaar.. malli memu sudras mammalni thokkesar.. maaki power kavale ani eduarhaar.. inkentha power kavale saami... me logic mekaina catch awthundha...
 

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Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2016 - 09:17 pm:      


Moviebuff001:

Ee program awareness Leda? Or reach takkuva?




those factors are there. and above all, how can you expect each and every guy in bad condition to get interest in education at once?

time padtundi. but oka 50-100 years aina timeline and plan lekapothe this will be pointless
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Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2016 - 09:05 pm:      


Asdf:

you cannot expect improvement in a short time



May be. Most of these programs have been around for over 40 years. Which means that at least one generation has taken advantage of the resources.
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Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2016 - 08:51 pm:      


Asdf:

kaamasoodra who ate paavuralu.


then ur an alien... nellore la kanipinchinda UFO needenaa?? :D
 

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Sesani:




kaamasoodra who ate paavuralu.
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Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2016 - 08:49 pm:      


Asdf:


r u sudrulu or kaamulu or kaakulu or paavuraal ani MOM watsapped...
 

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Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2016 - 08:48 pm:      


Moviebuff001:

nni avakasalu unna inka enduku venkabadi unnaru?




maastaru
you cannot expect improvement in a short time.
what should be curbed is the abuse by creamy layers and other scams.
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Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2016 - 08:44 pm:      


Cocanada:

Did Ambedkar really say reservations should be implemented for 10 years????


http://164.100.47.132/LssNew/constituent/vol8p8.html

This is the actual discussion on reservations in constituent assembly .. chaduvu saradaga time unnappudu .. ivaala positions ki appudu konni positions totally opposite .. aa roju Dalits lo chala mandi leaders did not even ask for reservations!!!

Some honourable Members have said that the Scheduled castes must have no reservation. Without asking us, this majority community has given us reservation. My honourable Friend Mr. Lari and other friends were saying: "Why should these Scheduled castes be given reservation"? We are not asking for reservation for our community. We are the people who have given protection to all the people. Three thousand years ago we gave you shelter. It is our community that gave protection to everybody. Our community does not seek protection. Well, Sir, the Britisher could not rule this country without us; the Muslims could not conquer this country without our cooperation and the Congress could not achieve freedom. It is only in 1942 that we joined the movement, and it is as a result of our joining it that we were able to drive out the Britishers. So, Sir, without our co-operation without our help no one in this country can exit. We are the right royal owners of the whole country and as the descendants of the oldest inhabitants of India, we have every right, but we are not so narrow-minded to drive others out. We have been giving protection; we have been tilling the soil; we have been toiling and moiling for the sake of others. Look at the sacrifice we have shown. We have been ill-treated for centuries and yet we have been sticking to our religion. There have been some scapegoats who have joined Sikhism and Christianity. But today seven crores of people continue to be in the Hindu religion and this only means the "suffering attitude", the sacrifice and toiling that denotes this community. So, Sir, I am not seeking protection of you, the majority community. I know you have 'one man, one vote'. After all, do you think that you are the majority community? I cam convert you into a minority community. It is only a class question that comes into existence and not the casts question. When this is the case, I need not seek any protection. I am thankful to you for the protection given by you. When you are offering the hand of help, why should I reject it? We Scheduled Castes have not invaded this country from Arabia. We have not come here from outside and we do not have a separate state to go and live if we cannot absorb other people. We are not a separate nation; we are the blood and bone of the same religion, same culture, same custom; we are the true sons of the soil. How can we be treated differently? So let not my honourable Friend make use of us and our community to plead his cause. I would request them, if at all they have any affection for us, let us have reservation for our own sake. For our part we can safeguard our interests better then anybody else. Self-help is the best help; that is a slogan and it is true. They say: "Why should you require reservation"? Freedom is not complete unless and until it is full of the three aspects. The first is social, the second is political and the third is economic. That is most important and vital to independence. I know the whole country is lagging behind so far as the economic freedom is concerned, but much more is this particular community. Even today, here and now, I am prepared for the abolition of the reservation, provided every Harijan family gets ten acres of wet land, twenty acres of dry land and all the children of Harijans are educated, free of cost, up to the University course and given one-fifth of the key posts either in the civilian departments or in the military departments. I throw a Challenge to the majority community that if they are prepared to give this much, I will forego the whole reservation. Let my Muslim friends know that we Harijan are not lagging behind in nationalism. It is we that have to fight more because it is our country. After all, you are the invaders, immigrants; you do not have as much interest as we have in this country and we are the people that produce the whole of the national wealth of country either by agricultural labour or by industrial labour. Unfortunately, just like the bees that gather honey, we work hard, but we are away from the honey; but the time will come and if you continue to be so selfish as you have been all these days, the same thing that was done to the Britisher will be repeated to you. What about you who have migrated from Central Asia, Mongolia and Manchuria? You will have to go back to your places. Even there you will be sent out. It is we that have a greater right than anybody else on the face of this country. So it is not a favour that you have done us, but you have rightly done it.

I have been telling you that the economic problem is the most important problem so far as this country is concerned. It is very easy question that can be solved if you make up your minds. You have been abolishing the zamindari all over the country. You have got lakhs and lakhs of acres of land. If you can give us, every Harijan family that is not possessing land; all the landless Harijans, at the rate of ten acres of wet land and twenty acres of dry land and educate the children to the University course, I am prepared to forgo the reservation. Here it is.

Shri Mohan Lal Gautam (United Provinces: General): Every Brahmin is prepared to become a Harijan of you give him ten acres of wet land and twenty acres of dry land.

Shri S. Nagappa: Even if the Brahmin is granted lands, then how to till? He has been having lands till now. He has to seek our protection; he has to employ us. It is something like entrusting Rambha to a Napumsaka. To my Brahmin friends I say; "What is the good of your asking for land? Land should be given to the tiller of the soil, he must be the owner of the soil. You do not want to own it for owning's sake. You must find utility for the property that you possess." It is no use my Brahmin friends saying: "I come forward and say I am prepared to be a Harijan." A Harijan cannot be converted, like a Christian or a Muslim. You must be a born Harijan, you must have birth as a Harijan; today you can become a Christian or a Muslim; the next day you can become a Sikh, if you grow a beard, but you cannot become a Harijan except by birth.

A Honourable Member : Very selfish !

Shri S. Nagappa: Do not think the Harijan community has been converting everybody. If you are prepared to take to the Harijan community, you must be prepared to scavenge and sweep. You do not want to do that and feel some dignity. You say "I am a Hindu and I cannot scavenge and sweep for others." You want to have the option: I am for the heads, but not for the tails. If at all I lose, I must lose the tails and not the heads." Is this your principle?, I ask Mr. Mohan Lal Gautam who has been kind enough to offer to become a Harijan.

As regards my honourable Friend Mr. Lari's amendment, that the reservation for the Scheduled Castes should be abolished, I thank my honourable, Friend for giving this idea to the House. But, let it remain as an ideal; it cannot be put in action. After all is said and done today, let my honourable Friend Mr. Lari remember that once upon a time, if not today, some time ago, he was a Harijan. It is the Harijans that have contributed to all these communities.

Mr. Z. H. Lari: I would be glad to become a Harijan if I could get ten acres of wet land and twenty acres of dry land.
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Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2016 - 08:22 pm:      

AP lo naku telisi SC/STs ki unna opportunities:
1. Free education, accommodation (gurukula pathasalalu) and scholorships
2. Age relaxation for most job applications
3. No cutoff marks in entrance exams
4.Tribal development agencies that give loans and training for self employment

Ivi kakunda Reservation. Oka SC or ST promote Aina, move aina position fill cheste malli sc/st nunchi fill cheyyali.
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Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2016 - 08:00 pm:      


Yodha:

Ambedkar never wanted reservations..


No .. it was Ambedkar who strongly fought for reservations, andulo anumanam ledu .. but in private conversations during 1950-56 period, he clearly said that reservations should end at some point of time .. but he was not in govt or he neither an MP, so his words had no value!!
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Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2016 - 07:48 pm:      

Ambedkar never wanted reservations..Gandhi thatha ala cheyakapoyi unte asalu reservations undevi kadhu
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Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2016 - 07:44 pm:      


Zulu:

naku thelisi ambethkar 10 yrs ki reservations apali ani ekkada analedhu...


10 years lo aapeyyali ani pettaledu constitution lo .. bcoz reservations as a policy belong to pre-independence era .. and yet every 10 years review pettadam was very good of Ambedkar. Now, every 10 years review chesi extend chesama .. leka without a discussion pass aipotonda anedi janam andariki telusu .. and why is it getting passed that way anedi nenu cheppakkarledu anukunta ..
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Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2016 - 11:29 am:      

naku thelisi ambethkar 10 yrs ki reservations apali ani ekkada analedhu...

It was set for 10 yrs..thats doesnt mean it should be stopped at 10 yrs..

@10 yrs it needs to be reevaluated..I am pretty sure he was aware that reservations will continue for long time.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2016 - 11:24 am:      


Cocanada:

shocking. if true, indians have abused the idea for vote bank politics


chaaaala tondara ga kanipettesaave ..
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Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2016 - 11:18 am:      

Did Ambedkar really say reservations should be implemented for 10 years????

shocking. if true, indians have abused the idea for vote bank politics
 

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Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2016 - 10:45 am:      


Bushu:

some sort of grouping is a basic human trait.


Ofcourse, I am no fool to believe in some egalitarian utopia. But caste and caste based reservations, with political parties in a first past the post rat race has been/will be a fatal mix anedi matrame nenu antunnadi.

Bushu:

sure, we can take it off the official lists or government language when a majority of Indians are doing well


Well, all government economic surveys which put poverty in Indians at 13-32%, rest of the society is okay to fend off for themselves. Ee roju ki ee roju caste based reservations teeseyyamani nenu anatledu. But may be we can review in another 6-7 years (75 years of independence/republic event ki) and reduce the quotas to 40% and set them down by 5% every decade from then?
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Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2016 - 10:37 am:      


Cocanada:

bottom line - how will you know if some individual is not able to perform due to social oppression or lack of merit


Do you understand why Ambedkar only said reservations should be implemented for 10 years? His idea must have been, if a good percentage of the population benefits from reservations, automatically it trickles down and helps the rest. But the flawed model that it is, can we say in the next 100 years we will achieve our objective for which we set out? I am sure, we cant.

And around 50% of society (urban, semi-urban) has more or less moved beyond caste. For them caste based social oppression is meaningless. If this reaches 70-75%, it is critical mass to entirely turn the tables, in my opinion, just ignore caste and implement economic reservations for 50 years. Then I dont think this high percentage of setting aside opportunities would not be required.
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Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2016 - 10:35 am:      


Tilak:




and this whole 'caste' disappearing will not totally happen. sure, we can take it off the official lists or government language when a majority of Indians are doing well but some sort of grouping is a basic human trait. adhi caste avvochu, class avvochu or whatever.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2016 - 10:34 am:      

kavalante 100% reservations ichukondi govt lo....private reservations ni dayachesi vadhileyyandi please
 

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Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2016 - 10:33 am:      


Tilak:

As long as caste exists in one form or other, caste polarization in our society cant be avoided




yeah. the root cause is caste based oppression. reservations etc are a weak by-product of that. and the only way to remove this caste angle is to make as many financially strong as we can. with robust entrepreneurship and open commerce channels.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2016 - 10:33 am:      

ippudu sudrulu koschen chestunnaru kabatti.....Reservation vachaayi kabatti.....caste rotha.....ventane caste (reservations) povaali.....lol......kangaru emundhi oka 100 yrs ki teeyochu government vudyogalu, economy, political power lo sudrulaki/dalits ki nyayam oka 100yrs ki jarigithe
 

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Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2016 - 10:31 am:      


Bushu:

reparations have to be caste based.


Sadly, that was/is a bottomless hole. We started with 22% reservations for SC/STs. Now we are at 49.5%. Looks like we will soon reach 69% like a few states. When this has not helped for 69 years, and has only led to society being unimaginably fragmented, I am sure another 69 years would be the worst possible nightmare.

Bushu:

oka rich dalit ni oka poor upper caste thakkuvaga choosey chance ledhu.


As long as caste exists in one form or other, caste polarization in our society cant be avoided. The longer this darkness survives, the stronger and venomous it becomes for the country and her future.
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Tilak:

Ofcourse, but caste as the criterion will only help get things worsen. Its where "caste polarization" has originated. The root of all ills?



but adi teeseste.. how will you identify who requires reservations?

bottom line - how will you know if some individual is not able to perform due to social oppression or lack of merit
 

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Tilak:

As long as reservations are caste based, society will find ways to degenerate itself




true. but the oppression was caste based and the reparations have to be caste based. even if we don't like it, that's the way it will be. of course, I firmly believe that economic growth trumps all kinds of stigma. oka rich dalit ni oka poor upper caste thakkuvaga choosey chance ledhu. Lakshmi is a great equalizer. :-) and each govt should strive towards that, ignoring everything else. society will evolve accordingly.
 

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Cocanada:

we need to continue doing that till they make it to a stage where they feel equal


Ofcourse, but caste as the criterion will only help get things worsen. Its where "caste polarization" has originated. The root of all ills?
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Bushu:

there was no way to do this earlier. ipudu adhar+DBT etc thoni, maybe it can be done.


It was a flawed system to begin with. Horribly messed up. Sure, Aadhar can help a little. But I dont think you meant that the system should be shifted out from being caste-based. As long as reservations are caste based, society will find ways to degenerate itself and there will be players like Congress and its regional cousins to play around. Wont help much in the long run.
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Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2016 - 10:19 am:      

Reservations are different from Financial assistance

poor people kosam financial assistance. something like, free education for EAMCET top 5000 rankers etc


FOR THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN SYSTEMATICALLY OPPRESSED, they need more than financial assistance. The society as a whole owes them a lot. They need to be forcibly welcome to mainstream society. Their intellect doesn't matter. we need to continue doing that till they make it to a stage where they feel equal
 

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Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2016 - 10:16 am:      


Tilak:

reservations have to be based on economic status




there was no way to do this earlier. ipudu adhar+DBT etc thoni, maybe it can be done.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2016 - 10:12 am:      


Bushu:

hope someone fixes the holes.


more holes than the surface .. the vessel will not be full in another 500 years .. reservations have to be based on economic status if the fruits have to reach the genuinely poorest and hard working ..
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Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2016 - 10:05 am:      


Telugu_times:

Gatha Kurrodu, inkaa db lo unnaadaa?




dont know who he is.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2016 - 10:03 am:      


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Gatha Kurrodu, inkaa db lo unnaadaa?
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Posted on Monday, June 06, 2016 - 09:48 am:      


Bushu:

but we cannot get rid of them because of bad apples




agreed - has to become more effective
 

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Posted on Monday, June 06, 2016 - 09:47 am:      


Whyme:

kinda vunna vaallu alane vuntaru




its a numbers game. reservations are a must, even though they have been abused. hope someone fixes the holes. but we cannot get rid of them because of bad apples. I have seen Dalit students doing Post doc in major US univs. simply not possible without reservations ..
 

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Posted on Monday, June 06, 2016 - 09:45 am:      


Bushu:

why you?




for me the interesting topic out of this is how reservations have helped so far and how they are going to help forward.. my feeling is we have created another layer with reservations (in addition to the already existing creamy layer)..

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Whyme:




why you?
 

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not totally.. Take case of Tamilnadu.. they were able to push their agenda well.. so called English/hindi domination kooda ledu..






endivayya vallu agenda push chesedhi......agenda TN nundi enduku push cheyyali, Delhi nundi enduku set cheyya koodadhu
 

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Posted on Monday, June 06, 2016 - 09:30 am:      


Vjavasi:

power is Delhi is what matters the most as most important policy decisions for the country are made there.....




not totally.. Take case of Tamilnadu.. they were able to push their agenda well.. so called English/hindi domination kooda ledu..

states have good control too..
 

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Posted on Monday, June 06, 2016 - 09:28 am:      


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Except for in delhi lobbies - most of populous states in North also are in fact BC driven...







adhe chepedhi.....power is Delhi is what matters the most as most important policy decisions for the country are made there.....so sudras-dalits should have their direct stake there
 

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Posted on Monday, June 06, 2016 - 09:25 am:      


Rajusk:


How do you measure intellectual output..

Please describe and quantify with real life examples..fleez






anni quantify cheyyalemi....simple common test enti ante Vocabulory.....anduke Vacabulory testing is common to test intelligence...Basha to paate bhavam vuntundhi, bhavam ee gnanam.....kabatti basha, sahityam,bhavam meedha pattu ee medhassu.......inthaku mundhu sudralaki veeti meedha arhata ledhu......ippudu sudrulaki andhakunda English ni techaar
 

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Posted on Monday, June 06, 2016 - 09:14 am:      


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ippudu AP lo kula rajakeeyalu meedha discussion ela jarugundho alage Delhi lo jarige kula rajakeeyala meedha kooda discussion jaragali nene vese posts lo ekkada Brahmana hatred ledhu......kontha mandhi kelukud valla ala anipistundhi emo




Damilnad, Kerala, AP, Karnataka - in the descending order of kula/matha awareness and participation in the system (politics, power)

Except for in delhi lobbies - most of populous states in North also are in fact BC driven...
 

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Posted on Monday, June 06, 2016 - 09:08 am:      


Siloan:

poverty is the state of mind





 

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Raman:

they might be kreciting a few slokas that does not mean they have education ..
oka education system exist ayinattu migatavallani tokkesinattu color icharu kondaru dani trap lo paddaru marikondaru ..




you nailed it rao garu..
 

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Vjavasi:

What is the intellectual output of so called land owning "powerful" groups in AP or in the south in the last 1000 years




How do you measure intellectual output..

Please describe and quantify with real life examples..fleez:D
 

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Posted on Monday, June 06, 2016 - 07:45 am:      

poverty is the state of mind
 

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vasi tmmi thank you nee clarity meeda naku nammakam undi .. i also support your view on ap sudras empowerment at delhi thru reservations if other upper caste sudras are getting the benefit from north for example powerful yadavs then and patels and jats started the agetation for the same now ..
ikapote nenu khandinchedi okkate 1000 of years education anedi okalla chetilone undi anedi .. kavulu panditulu professors kakunda scientists and 1mathematicians in the past are 95% from Bs kaani valla %ge in Bs is hardly -4% gudi pujari gani religious maters nirvahinche brahmins gani nerchukunnadi slokalu pravachanalu education loki radu .danivalla peddaga bagupadi power chejikkinchukunna vallu leru .. kevalam religious karyakramalu nerchukodanike panikivachindi .. daniki chalavaraku reading and writing tho paniledu kevalam reciting thone .. andukane konni vargala daggire undi poindi . that is like patented thing annattu ..
kalidasu rasina maha kavyalani appatlo chadivina % .01 % kuda undadu during his time ..
ikapote tarkam memamsam arda sastram lanti shastralani evaro kondaru tappa ekkuvamandi nerchukoledu ..

okalla daggare education system undipodaniki chala karanalu unnai .. tokkaiydam okkate kaadu
recent pushkarala taruvatha rajamundry lo anadalla endaro beeda brahmins chanipote savalu ethadaniki kuda manushulu leru maa chuttallo okayana munduku vachi cheyinchadu ..
nenu cheppedentante smartham oka education kadu adi nerchukunna vadu smart boy kadu ani
 

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Posted on Monday, June 06, 2016 - 07:42 am:      

Giving power to SC/ST/BC is real progress. Using 'Sudra' as a category is nothing but scamming them again.
 

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Posted on Monday, June 06, 2016 - 06:23 am:      

Inthaki reds, kams, velams, kaps sudras avuna, kaada?


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Posted on Monday, June 06, 2016 - 12:24 am:      

Andariki avakaasalu....but power maathram 1000 yrs ga rule chesthunna vaallake.... Lol
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Posted on Monday, June 06, 2016 - 12:19 am:      


Raman:

sudras chadukoledu ante kastam molla ramayanam vemana shatakam tappu antunnayi ..

they did not show much interest ..rajyam veera bhojyam alkkada .. chaduvu lati vatiki time ledu ..

only a few could afford education ..
Bs lo kuda 90% un educated reading wring teleenollu ... they might be kreciting a few slokas that does not mean they have education ..
oka education system exist ayinattu migatavallani tokkesinattu color icharu kondaru dani trap lo paddaru marikondaru ..

I can recall my maternal grand parents iddariki chaduvuradu raithu kutumbam

ikapote current education system ki bs daggarunna system ki asala sambandham ledu basic ga janalu dabbu power ekkadunte akkadaki poyyaru ..bs at least oka sampradayam create chesaru runapadi undandi 7pu anosaram kada dani meeda




Raman unkl.....i like you...nuvvu chala reasonable ga matladathavu....... nenu repeated ga rendu moodu threads lo cheppa......Brahmanula meedha dwesham ledhu ani

kakapothe naaku oka badhyatha vundhi.....varna vyavastha anedhi ippdu paniki raadhu....laaage chala mandhi chepettu memu gatham lo antha sadinchesam ....antha maa sastrallo vundhi ane argument desaniki chala haani chestundhi....ippudu kavalsindhi samanthavam.....ante chaduvu,vupadhi adhikaram lo andhariki samana avakashalu

Nuvvu molla gurinchi, vemana gurinchi okati rendu vudanthalu ichinanatha maatrana ee desham lo sudrulu kooda opnadithulu ani evaru nammaru, nammaleru......varna vyavastha lo vidya anedhi kooda varasatwam anedhi chala varaku nijam...edho okato rendu minahayimpulu vundavachu

Brahmanulu sampradayam nilabettaru anukunna, ippudu andhariki avakashalu antam lo tappu ledhu kadha.....kalam marindhi, paristithulu maarayi....gnanamu-vigananmu kooda maarayi

ippudu AP lo kula rajakeeyalu meedha discussion ela jarugundho alage Delhi lo jarige kula rajakeeyala meedha kooda discussion jaragali

nene vese posts lo ekkada Brahmana hatred ledhu......kontha mandhi kelukud valla ala anipistundhi emo
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 11:55 pm:      


New_user:



Nehru family thappa, brahmin hagemony anedi gatha decade lo ekkadundi? Dont get carried over.





voorukondi mastaaru......Delhi lo establisment motham, economy lo pethanam motham savarna castes de....90s nundi North Indian states lo sudrulaki kontha avakasham vachindi....ippudu adhi kooda nidhanam ga reverse cheyyali ani prayatnam
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 11:53 pm:      


Vjavasi:


sudras chadukoledu ante kastam molla ramayanam vemana shatakam tappu antunnayi ..

they did not show much interest ..rajyam veera bhojyam alkkada .. chaduvu lati vatiki time ledu ..

only a few could afford education ..
Bs lo kuda 90% un educated reading wring teleenollu ... they might be kreciting a few slokas that does not mean they have education ..
oka education system exist ayinattu migatavallani tokkesinattu color icharu kondaru dani trap lo paddaru marikondaru ..

I can recall my maternal grand parents iddariki chaduvuradu raithu kutumbam

ikapote current education system ki bs daggarunna system ki asala sambandham ledu basic ga janalu dabbu power ekkadunte akkadaki poyyaru ..bs at least oka sampradayam create chesaru runapadi undandi 7pu anosaram kada dani meeda
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 11:50 pm:      

Vjavasi

Nehru family thappa, brahmin hagemony anedi gatha decade lo ekkadundi? Dont get carried over.
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 11:49 pm:      


Tilak:

higher education matru basha lo undali anatam noble demand .. tappemi ledu .. kaani daanni ee chetta caste/politics/power






enti nee sollu....neenu vesindhi chetha caste pol;itics against gane ee....ante neeku nachakapothe chetha?
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 11:47 pm:      

higher education matru basha lo undali anatam noble demand .. tappemi ledu .. kaani daanni ee chetta caste/politics/power discos lo ki laagi de-legit cheyyadam tappithe inkoti kaadu ..
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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 11:43 pm:      

malli shuru.... Lol
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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 11:38 pm:      

varna vyavastha anedhi ee desham lo vidya ane prakriya ni sarva nasanam chesindhi kondariki maatrame arhatha ani....ippudu adhe inko rakam ga jarugutundhi.....vunnatha vidya ni para basha lo ne vunchi samanyulaki moyalendha bhaaram ga chesindhi....asalu aneka vela samvastarala avidhya valla sontha bashe sarigga raadhu ee desham lo samnyualki....malla vere basha lo vidhya nerchukovali......anduke degree lu chesina burralo emi vundadhu chala mandhiki
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 11:35 pm:      

Yep evadivi kapata naatakalo andariki ardham avthunnai.... Lol power lo undi edi 1000 yrs power lo undi peekalekapoyaru ani edusthondi nuvve.... 1000 yrs power lo undi naalugu manchi panulu cheyyaleni vaallani chethakani vaallu ane anyaaru..... Podichesaru pindesaaru ani thodalu kottukoru....

This is my original and still my stand.... Arrogance anukuntaro emanukuntaro mee istam....



Thikka_sankara:

1) 1000 yrs ruling lo unnaru aina inka power vodulukom to sc/st s....
2) 1000 yrs ga ruling lo unnaru aina oka tappudu vyavastha ni maarcha leni chethkaani thanam
3) 1000 yrs ga ruling lo unnaru aina kaneesam useless intellectual output ivvaleni chethakani thanam

Veellaki power ivvadam better aaa leka never tried never tested sc/st s ki power ivvadam better aaa.... To me sc/st s seem to be logical go-TO to hand over power at all levels....



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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 11:31 pm:      

sudrulu power lo vundi kooda emi sadinchaleka poyaru, vallaki chaduvulu ababvu ane jatyankaram mundhu ee ithara rakaimaina arrogance kooda chinnadhe......sudrulaki manchi maatalu evaru ayyina chebithe mari arrogance lagane anipistundhi antha kapata buddhi vunna vallaki
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 11:23 pm:      

Look at arrogance..... Eeeyana occhhi kallu teripisthe kaani lokam choodadamraani vaallu ani oka pakka thiduthoo sudras ni inko pakka verey valladi arrogance ani bonkudu.... Lol @arrogance
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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 11:18 pm:      

Delhi lo jarigina jaruguthunna vishayala gurinchi cehppa......meeru intelelctual ga baga develop avvali ani chebutunna....mee moorkhatvam lo meeru vuntaanu ante evadu emi chesthadu

2000-3000 years lo appudappudu sudrulu rajyalu elinaa.....valla intellectual output soonayna......daaniki karanam varna vyvastha

last 100 years ga inko rakamaina varna vyavastha arustinchaaru adhi nadustundhi.....ee sari samskritam badhulu English dwara .....professional/higher education matham, English lo vunchatam dwara......Delhi lo adhikaram saswatham ga tama daggara vunchukovatam dwara jarugutundhi......malla sudrulu-dalithulu sariyaina vidhya ki dooram ga vunchabadutunnaru

edho nenu oka caste aukoni......inka edho caste meedha paga tho mee kallu meere poduchukuntamu ante.......evaru aaputharu....alaage moorkham ga mimmalni alage vunchataniki srustinchina vyavastha lo padi kottukondi


eeroju south India lo sudrulaki kooda kontha varaku manchi opportunities vunnayi ante ikkada entho kontha Rajyadhikaram andharu sudrulaki raavatam, democratization deep ga jaragatam......adhi North India lo mandal tarvatha varaku jaraga ledhu
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 10:54 pm:      


Moviebuff001:

Intellectual poverty ante enti?




bhaava daaridryam.. kanabadatledaa...
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 10:49 pm:      

Asalu agenda ento ardam kavatledu babayyalu.
Evaraina Pedda manasu chesukuni visadeekarinchandi please.
Intellectual poverty ante enti?
Adi richness ki marchataniki dalit prime minister ki link enti?
Inta dalit vtatirekata paata kaalam lo unte asalu B R Ambedkar garu rajyangam ela rachincharu? Ayana reservation proposal ela, enduku implement chesaru?
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 10:33 pm:      

buddists ki hindu matham gurunchi emi pani?meedi meeru soosukondi maadi memu soosukuntam
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 10:29 pm:      

Aaagadhu...Aagadhu...
Aagadhu..yee nimishamu ee discussion...
Aagithe...Saagadhu...ee dblo..

 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 10:10 pm:      

Btw .. Khadse issue kuda Cong-RSS antunnaru .. Khadse issue lo action teesuko .. ask him to resign ani .. Fadnavis ki cheppindi Modi-Shah ..
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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 10:08 pm:      

nanda vamsam maurya vamsham daggarninchi andaru sudra cassets e ee lekkana ap state lone main land pakkarastralato kalupukuni rule chesindi sudras e 8th centurey till nizams take over ..
under nizams mallee zameendars rupamlo rule chesindi 90% sudra upper cassets e

mallee 2000 years veelu include kadu ante cheppedi enti inka
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 10:06 pm:      


New_user:

Decade back, thama time ayipoyindi ani valle realize ayyaka, inni threads avasrama?





evari time ayyipoindhi?....idhi evaro okkala meedha kaadhu.....Sudras-dalits intellectual poverty gurinchi.....Delhi lo Cong-RSS pethanam gurinchi.....nachinattu interpret chesukuntunnaru......vesian anni threads lo matter different....idhi prastutha Rajakeeyam meedha vesindhi
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 09:57 pm:      

kotta argument aa? sudras-dalits ki reservations akkarledu (bcoz they are majority) .. political power chaalu ani? mari intellectual poverty ela dooram avutundi if not through educational and employment opportunities?
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Decade back, thama time ayipoyindi ani valle realize ayyaka, inni threads avasrama?
 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UIIYV00eNU#t=20s

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 09:35 pm:      


Thikka_sankara:

Next century ki bharatavani dasa disa ni nirdesinche guidelines ni formulate chesthunnam




emi guidelines formulate chessaru..implementation road map enti...budget entha...oka summary post eyyandi chadivi tarisamu


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enduku antha restlessness....intaki okka caste ni ekkada abuse chessadu
db antene opinions post cheyatam neetho ekibavinchi chemma chekkaladukovataniki enduku vostadu db ki....even i dont agree with vjasi but nee post antha ga ahankaram paniki radu


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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 09:01 pm:      

Tamilnadu was in of the first states to implement detailed reservation
Any opinion on how they fared.. Even there there is no Sudra category
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 08:59 pm:      


Telugu_times:

sudras and dalits oka group anta, LOL
FCs power dhobbeyyadaaniki panikosthadhi, ee logic
kiki
give power to st/sc/bc for the next 25years, then we will talk about equality




Can't agree more - if keep going in Sudra umbrella.. Dalits eppatiki bagupadaru
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 08:52 pm:      

 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 08:51 pm:      

sudras and dalits oka group anta, LOL
FCs power dhobbeyyadaaniki panikosthadhi, ee logic
kiki
give power to st/sc/bc for the next 25years, then we will talk about equality
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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 08:49 pm:      

nee problem enti sudras-dalits Intellectual poverty gurinchi matladithe....Bharata desham ichestundha reservations.....asal majority janabha ki reservations enti.....valle ivvali okavella evarikanna avasaram aithe
 

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Vjavasi:

evadabba sommu ani sudra-dalits ki reservations ichaamu ani chebutunnaru.....adhikaram sudrulu-dalithula daggara vunte valle isthaaru vere vallaki reservation




Annai neeku kavalsina answer enti..


Actually: in another angle ee thokkalo reservations ettakapothey revolution ade vachi class abolishment ayyedi kada
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 08:43 pm:      


Tilak:

68 years education/jobs lo reservations ichindi/instondi Bharatadesam??


Desam ichindi ante .. "ichamu" annatta? asalu use cheyyani word/intention ni chadivesi .. oogadam enti .. edanna problem unda??
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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 08:41 pm:      

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ee sodi enti maaku db lo..edo movies paramga caste angle discos nadiste ok..people dont keep that in mind for ever..aa movie unnanta sepu fight chestaru..and move on..

ee continous edupu enti db lo..if u want to admit such crap, please move it the caste section..oka caste mottam sarva nasanam aipovali annanta hatred choopinche vallaki idoka platform aa? evadu enta edchina manchi vallaki manche jarugutundi(irrespective of caste)..ee chetta anta caste section ki move cheyyandi..vedhava sodi..
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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 08:38 pm:      

evadabba sommu ani sudra-dalits ki reservations ichaamu ani chebutunnaru.....adhikaram sudrulu-dalithula daggara vunte valle isthaaru vere vallaki reservation

Delhi lo adhikaram gurinchi matladithe ventane regressive caste politics gurthuku vastaayi
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 08:37 pm:      


Vjavasi:


ee enduku antha kashtam ga vundhi.....sudrulani sudra ani kakunda harijan type lo inka emanna word use cheyyala





Kashtam nashtam kaadu
System came up with BC/sc/st categorization - this is to take away the varna classification
Also most of the different groups have their own identity.. There are different strata..
Ekkadaina balija sangham, viswa Brahmans sangham/bhavansm etc vuntayi kaani Sudra sangham/bhavanam choosava... That they are organizing themselves in their subgroup in itself is a step towards them/system bringing them out of that Sudra tag

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 08:33 pm:      

intellectual poverty ni dooram cheyyadanike .. 68 years education/jobs lo reservations ichindi/instondi Bharatadesam?? intellectual poverty ki power ki link undi anedi rendo vaadana aithe .. at the very least 700-800 years nunchi power lo unna castes kuda intellectual poverty claim cheyyadam ghoraathi ghoram .. the argument with horrible amounts of duplicity ..

ennallu ee regressive topics meeda time waste chestaru? as a country, manaki unna poverty ki .. we should be concentrating on things like economy, education, jobs, healthcare etc etc .. enni vandala ellu caste basis meeda rajakeeyalu chestaru? emi saadhistunnaru ala chesi?
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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 08:27 pm:      

sare Reddies ki sudra vaddu anta atleast ee DB lo chala mandhi hurt ayyinattu vunnaru......Kammas, Velammas ni sudras annocha leka adhi kooda manobhavalanu debba teesinattena
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 08:26 pm:      


Moodu_mukkalu:

can u put in one line



+1.
Naku ardam ainantavaraku, prime minister padaviki rotation lo different caste(BC/sc/st) leaders ki ivvali.

Kind of like south Africa cricket team.

But CBN place lo avasaram ledu. As his a Shudra. Deeni logic naku ardam kaledu.
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 08:24 pm:      


Whyme:

Stop using word Sudra - it is bc/sc/st who need the push






ee enduku antha kashtam ga vundhi.....sudrulani sudra ani kakunda harijan type lo inka emanna word use cheyyala?
 

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Telugu_times:

not one line, but ...
sudras are reddies, kammas, velamas, rajus, kapus, BCs, SCs, STs
veellani Brahmins and Vysyas thokkesthunnaaru
Brahmins and Vysyas should not be in power
Sudras should get power, but in Sudras, if only reddies or kammas or velamas are in power for the next 100 years, that is OK





nee problem enti?......sudras gurinchi adgaavu cheppanu.....edo oohinchukuni type chesesthavu......kindha chadavaledha SC/STs AP CM aithe ok ani vesina posts.....nuvvu kooda Reddies sudra annanduku hurt ayyava?......alaage teeseyochu Reddys vddu anukunte......Kammas, Velamas sudras kaadhu ani vallu chebithe vallani teeseyochu......nee problem solved aa appudu?
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 08:18 pm:      


Whyme:

Enti gajala garu?




what andi, nenu kooda ee post aa thread lo estaa /run
Sesani lo inta hater dagi unada malli neetulu baga chebutadu, lol - Gotcha
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 08:14 pm:      


Asdf:

mee age ki taggatlu post cheyan




Enti gajala garu?
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 08:11 pm:      


Whyme:

intellectual poverty - I am struggling with this..

Stop using word Sudra - it is bc/sc/st who need the push
Anyways - education for all first step (but sc/st ias officer koduku open category lo ki ravali - so one more under privileged kid gets chance)
Empowerment - same - you get to use your sc/st card for first two stages of your career - after that merit.. This is to reduce free riders

Put some rigor - we might see change in 100yrs may be..
Else we are spawning off another set of oppressors or leeches




mee age ki taggatlu post cheyandi
Sesani lo inta hater dagi unada malli neetulu baga chebutadu, lol - Gotcha
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 08:03 pm:      

intellectual poverty - I am struggling with this..

Stop using word Sudra - it is bc/sc/st who need the push
Anyways - education for all first step (but sc/st ias officer koduku open category lo ki ravali - so one more under privileged kid gets chance)
Empowerment - same - you get to use your sc/st card for first two stages of your career - after that merit.. This is to reduce free riders

Put some rigor - we might see change in 100yrs may be..
Else we are spawning off another set of oppressors or leeches
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 07:35 pm:      


Moodu_mukkalu:

can u put in one line what u r trying to convey.. if not then there is no way people will get what u r trying to say...



not one line, but ...
sudras are reddies, kammas, velamas, rajus, kapus, BCs, SCs, STs
veellani Brahmins and Vysyas thokkesthunnaaru
Brahmins and Vysyas should not be in power
Sudras should get power, but in Sudras, if only reddies or kammas or velamas are in power for the next 100 years, that is OK
Ignore spam.
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 06:51 pm:      

 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 06:50 pm:      

can u put in one line what u r trying to convey.. if not then there is no way people will get what u r trying to say...
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 06:32 pm:      


Happy Vizag
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 06:25 pm:      

Sudras-dalits intellectual ga develop avvali ante kooda nachatledhu konthamandiki......prasnalanni malla initiator alleged caste daggariki vastaayi


Delhi lo power motham dalits ki icheyyali anta, sudrulaki ivvakoodhu anta.....vanda ellu dalthula bhujala meedha nundi eelaru vallaki emi ivvakunda.....sare next 100 years sudras-dalits partnership vundaali Delhi lo ante kudaradhu anta motham vallaki icheyyali anta......100 years sudras, dalits kalisi ee desanni yelithe asalu caste ee collapse ayyipotundhi......taravatha evaru ayyina okate
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 06:17 pm:      

Two things will demolish caste 1) universal education 2) equal opportunity to power

The varna elite created a seperate layer of English education for themselves thus continuing the discrimination in education

english education ante chala mandi chadive local medicre vachi rani schools anukokakandi....it's at completely different level


With discrimination in education the varna order thrives in politics also....remember education is the key
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 06:10 pm:      

AP lo SC/ST inka migatha sudrulu evaraina avochu CM.....naaku Chandra babu naidu ki mare ithara SC/ST sudra leader ki teda ledhu...the reason why i insist in change in Delhi is it will completely demolish cas
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 06:07 pm:      


Whyme:


If going by Varna - Kshatriya, Brahmin, Vysya, Sudra - there is no Dalit before - Dalit were prbly sudras that all the 3 and upper crust of Sudra have oppressed





dalitulu sudras kante kindha....chandalulu kindha vastaaru according to the traditional varna classification


Whyme:


In the previous chats you were pointing out there were non hindu/brahminic/kshatriya Kings (ala satavahanulu , lakatiyulu, reddy rajulu, musunuru nayaks).. So all sudras were not as downtrodden




at an intellectual level most of them are and this post is about intellectual poverty


Whyme:


Nenu goda meeda pillini annav - naa varna/caste tolerance or experience neeku teliyadu..
Padi paras raasi nuvvu goda dookina pillini anuko.. No worries




goda meedha pilli ante nee varna/caste to sambandham emundhi....nee posts batti cheppa....oka post lo okati post chesi malli vere post lo complete opposite antaav....ninnu personal ga emi anala....nee posts ni batti cheppa
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 05:16 pm:      


Vjavasi:


retort to a guy who was trying to insinuate me on caste.




No - not insinuating on caste..

If going by Varna - Kshatriya, Brahmin, Vysya, Sudra - there is no Dalit before - Dalit were prbly sudras that all the 3 and upper crust of Sudra have oppressed

Now coming sudra
In the previous chats you were pointing out there were non hindu/brahminic/kshatriya Kings (ala satavahanulu , lakatiyulu, reddy rajulu, musunuru nayaks).. So all sudras were not as downtrodden

as you say.. At least in south

Also you say A.P is ready for a sc/st cm.. Other than few leading agrarian/ruling castes - migitha vallaki dikkuledu.. SC/ST is too far

Nenu goda meeda pillini annav - naa varna/caste tolerance or experience neeku teliyadu..
Padi paras raasi nuvvu goda dookina pillini anuko.. No worries
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 04:39 pm:      


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Dalits ni reservations valla chaduvukunna ignorant people chinnachoopu choostaru. Villages lo ignorant people chinnachoopu choostaru. But these two are minority. Majority of people see everyone as equal even if they like their own caste.
There is no stopping if anyone is a true leader.




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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 04:35 pm:      


Zulu:




CBN ki varasudiga kap ni ettamanandi soodam ee DB veerula prathapam..
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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 04:32 pm:      

LOL..

AP/T lo rest of Sudras ki power transfer eppudu chesthunnaru...1000 yrs nundi mere ga...

Avasaram aithey Sudra taga.? Lenappudu own tagsaa....
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 04:09 pm:      

somewhat off topic:
Asalu sudrulu ane concept ippudu ekkada vadutunnaru?
Dalits ni reservations valla chaduvukunna ignorant people chinnachoopu choostaru. Villages lo ignorant people chinnachoopu choostaru. But these two are minority. Majority of people see everyone as equal even if they like their own caste.
There is no stopping if anyone is a true leader.
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 02:04 pm:      


Vjavasi:

retort to a guy who was trying to insinuate me on caste.




 

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Guriginja:

mana convenience kosam yetta marusthamu reddys sudrulu kaadhu ani yevarannaru....satavahanas, salivahanas, aakariki the great mouryas, etc andaru sudrule kadha.....anduke gandhi goru anugarina vargaaalu..nijanga oppressed vaallani harijanulu annadu..other than harijans and girijans no other sudra can claim as being oppressed as they were never...sudrulu kuda redlu kammas, and every other damn oc/bc caste treated dalits in the same way..so sudrulu...deprived, intelectual poverty gatra falls flat.




aa Maurya kulam vallu ippudu OBCs ni north India......backward in every sense....okka chandraguptudi batti migatha vallu forward ayyipothara.....maurya vachi 2000 years paina ayyindhi..the problem is the system that intellectually deprived many sudra-dalit communities....that is the main point....ippudu prastutham Adhikaram vasthe migathavi kooda vastaayi
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 01:54 pm:      

kurrodu avesha padtunnadu.....Satavhanas ki Kammas ki links ante iddaru same ani kaadhu, kakateeyas ki kammas ki links ante iddaru okkate kaadhu.....based on the location of the Satavhana kingdom and the prevalence of buddhism Kammas who originated after few centuries after Satavahans might have had some links....lekapothe vaccume nundi create ayyara

And also that post was a retort to a guy who was trying to insinuate me on caste......athi telivi bhale choopistharu with selective posts from out of context
 

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Thikka_sankara:

.Satavahana kingdom ki nucleus krishna-godavari delta.... for some time it was referred as Kammarashtra




Hmm... kamma vallu thappithe ..inkevvaru idi raayaru..so vjavasi who hides his caste by using words like "assuming I am kamma"..is a kamma....

It was proposed by kamma historian bhavaiah chowdary...actually peru lone baavi vundi haha...konni sociology pusthakaalu consider chestaayi anuko..
in fact kamma websites lo propose chesinaa valla history antha eeyana prathipaadinchindee...
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 01:52 pm:      


Vjavasi:

Delhi lo neo-varna system nadustundhi




bongu nadusthondi... Delhi lo Gandy family chelamani ayyindi... nehru, indira, rajeev, sanjeev thokka thotakura... vellaki against ga eppat nuncho fight chesthunnaru janalu andar kalisi... congress ni thokkeyadamey kashayam try chesthondi... aa roju vajpayee ni nuncho pettaru advani ni ettakunda cuz advani mariii karudu gattina kashayam kabatti...

congress ni disolve cheyyandi ani gandhi mundey cheppadu... vinaledu... e roju congress ni thokkesthey automatic ga anni kulalaki representation vachesthadi..
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Guriginja:

mana convenience kosam yetta marusthamu reddys sudrulu kaadhu ani yevarannaru....satavahanas, salivahanas, aakariki the great mouryas, etc andaru sudrule kadha.....anduke gandhi goru anugarina vargaaalu..nijanga oppressed vaallani harijanulu annadu..other than harijans and girijans no other sudra can claim as being oppressed as they were never...sudrulu kuda redlu kammas, and every other damn oc/bc caste treated dalits in the same way..so sudrulu...deprived, intelectual poverty gatra falls flat.




+1...
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Satavahnulu origins unknown anedhi argument.....vallu origins most likely Andhra tribes or mixed or buddhist anedhi aa nalugu threads or nenu vesina nalabhai threads lo vaadhana....ikkada vadhana intellectual poverty among sudras-dalits, varna vyavastha meedha.......sudra kulalo intellectual poverty ledhu antaara?.....gatha 100 years ga Delhi lo sudrulaki adhikaram ledhu anedhi vastavam kaadha?.....Delhi lo neo-varna system nadustundhi
 

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Guriginja:

mana convenience kosam yetta marusthamu reddys sudrulu kaadhu ani yevarannaru....satavahanas, salivahanas, aakariki the great mouryas, etc andaru sudrule kadha.....anduke gandhi goru anugarina vargaaalu..nijanga oppressed vaallani harijanulu annadu..other than harijans and girijans no other sudra can claim as being oppressed as they were never...sudrulu kuda redlu kammas, and every other damn oc/bc caste treated dalits in the same way..so sudrulu...deprived, intelectual poverty gatra falls flat.




+1
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 01:42 pm:      

mana convenience kosam yetta marusthamu reddys sudrulu kaadhu ani yevarannaru....satavahanas, salivahanas, aakariki the great mouryas, etc andaru sudrule kadha.....anduke gandhi goru anugarina vargaaalu..nijanga oppressed vaallani harijanulu annadu..other than harijans and girijans no other sudra can claim as being oppressed as they were never...sudrulu kuda redlu kammas, and every other damn oc/bc caste treated dalits in the same way..so sudrulu...deprived, intelectual poverty gatra falls flat.
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 01:40 pm:      


Guriginja:

gautami putra satakarni sudruda brahmada?..brahmadu kaadhu anadaniki 4-5 threads sadivinattu gurthu...so sudrulu yeppudooooooo bc kalam lone ruling sesar kada....why this contradictory thoughts again?




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Nuvvu entha ginjukunna Kammas ki Satvahanas ki links lekunda vundatam impossible.....The word "kamma" itself is from Buddhism......Satavahana kingdom ki nucleus krishna-godavari delta.... for some time it was referred as Kammarashtra




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ee kurrodu ippudu kshatriyulu ani telchaada....LOL....em Sudra origins enduku kaakoodadhu.......gatha rendu rojulu ga Andhras barbaric uncivilized race....ippudu Kshatriyulu...lol



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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 01:38 pm:      

Sare DB lo kontha mandi Reddy caste sudra ante feel avutunnaru kabatti....vallani Kshatriyula lekkalo vedham.....DB lo Kammas ki kooda Kshatriyula status kaavala?....sudrulu gane vuntaara?
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 01:35 pm:      

gautami putra satakarni sudruda brahmada?..brahmadu kaadhu anadaniki 4-5 threads sadivinattu gurthu...so sudrulu yeppudooooooo bc kalam lone ruling sesar kada....why this contradictory thoughts again?
 

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Siloan:





Sudras baane forwarding
Dalits no ani naa leaves feeling
Rest mee
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 01:34 pm:      


Siloan:




nee posts chadivithe naaradudu gurthukosthaadu vayya.. madhyalo vosthaavu edo antaavu ..vinodhaani chusthaavu..
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 01:28 pm:      

CMS of Ap after independence:

Tanguturi Prakasam - B
Bezawada Gopala Reddy - R (S)
Neelam Sanjeeva Reddy -R (S)
Damodaram Sanjivayya -SC (D)
Neelam Sanjeeva Reddy - R (S)
Kasu Bramhananda Reddy - R (S)
P.V.Narasimha Rao _ B
Jalagam Vengala Rao - V (S)
Dr Marri Chenna Reddy - R (S)
Sri Tanguturi Anjaiah - R (s) (doubt)
Sri Bhavanam Venkataram - R (S)
K.Vijaya Bhaskara Reddy - R (S)
N.T.Rama Rao - K (S)
N.Bhaskara rao - K (S)
N.T.Rama Rao - K (S)
N.T.Rama Rao - K (S)
Dr.Marri Chenna Reddy - R (S)
N.Janardhana Reddy - R (S)
K.VijayaBhaskara Reddy - R (S)
N.T.Rama Rao - K (S)
N. Chandra Babu Naidu - K (S)
Dr.Y.S. Rajasekhara Reddy - R (S)
K. Rosaiah -V
N.Kiran Kumar Reddy - R (S)
Sri N. Chandra Babu Naidu - K (S)

correct if any mistakes... 22/25 are S. 2 are bapan and 1 vysya

still AP lo karemchedu.
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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 01:28 pm:      


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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 01:25 pm:      

forget about dalits or sudras and down trodden like kammas and reddies.. who could lose another century for getting "real power" ...

nenaithe VJAVASI thread CENTURY daatakudani roju kosam chustunna..vastundi antaara..

 

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Whyme:

Okies.. Charity should start at home..ani nen saying







kindha post chadavledha.....AP lo oka SC/ST CM ki ready ane kadha chepindhi....alage Delhi oka Sudra-dalit PM, Presidents, top cabinet ministers ki ready ga vundaali
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 01:21 pm:      

Yaadavulu patelsu jhatsu marathasu nairsu andaru power lo unna vaalle power lo undi sc/st s ni thokkina vaalle (along with chauvinistic Bs).... Vaalla list lo enduku maala maadiga power kosam wait cheyyadam... They should be the sole rulers
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Whyme:

Monney kada satavahanulu cassette prove chesaru





em casette prove chesa?......kamma ani cheppana neeku......nuvvu goda meedha pilli acting bhale chesthavu.....Kakateeyulu kammas ani cheppina post okati patra....samost likely Andhrulu, origins unknown, Buddhist origins or mixed ayyivundavachu ani cheppa....Satavahanula time ki ippudu vunna castes levu ani kooda cheppa
 

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Vjavasi:

Chivariki Kammas, Reddys power varaku vachinda discussion ......veele ee akkarla yadav, patel, jat, marathas, Mala, madhiga, Jadhav, valmiki, Nair lanti sud




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Chivariki Kammas, Reddys power varaku vachinda discussion ......veele ee akkarla yadav, patel, jat, marathas, Mala, madhiga, Jadhav, valmiki, Nair lanti sudra-dalit kulalu nundi ayyina avochu oka kotha maarpu kosam
 

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Whyme:

Monney kada satavahanulu cassette prove chesaru
Kakatiyilu mareee.. Aaa rojuuu.. Satakarni aaa oo bapu nadakarni ani voogaru




lol satavahanas kuda cassette proved aa... ummm.. mari aa rojula nunchi thokkesaraaa dalits ni...
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Whyme:

Monney kada satavahanulu cassette prove chesaru
Kakatiyilu mareee.. Aaa rojuuu.. Satakarni aaa oo bapu nadakarni ani voogaru


adanthe.... Rajyamelina meru nagadheerudu ani cheppukodaniki kaavali.... Ippudu maathram power ekkadundi
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Whyme:

Sudras (by defn of not the alleged top 3 ) are ruling majority of the country







ekkada eppudu......last 100 years lo PMs, Presidents, CMs, Governors, Judges, Bureacrats, Ambassadors list teeyi chodham enthamandi sudtrlu, dalitulu vunnaro
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 01:11 pm:      

Lol chauvinistic Bs tho kalisi thokkaru power lo unna raajulu.... Kaadanaleni Satyam....aina kaadantaam because ARROGANCE
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Guriginja:

as per today's context.




yeah.... for today as vjavs.. even though they are considered as kings and leaders of telugu community.
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Monney kada satavahanulu cassette prove chesaru
Kakatiyilu mareee.. Aaa rojuuu.. Satakarni aaa oo bapu nadakarni ani voogaru
 

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Vjavasi:

oh ippudu sudrlu tokkaru anamata 1000 yrs dalithulni....sudrulu 1000yrs rajayalu elaaru desham motham.....varna vyavastha motham sudrula srusti ne....lol




chalo list teedam andhra lo kings evarooo... comeon gusa gusa..
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Guriginja:

kammas reddys kuda sudrulenaa..



as per today's context.
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 01:07 pm:      

oh ippudu sudrlu tokkaru anamata 1000 yrs dalithulni....sudrulu 1000yrs rajayalu elaaru desham motham.....varna vyavastha motham sudrula srusti ne....lol
 

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Whyme:

Dalit musugu lo migitha agendas push cheyyali anukuntunnaru


lol choose vaallu chadivevaallu avivekulu anukune arrogance em chestaam lol
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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 01:06 pm:      

kammas reddys kuda sudrulenaa...vaallu power lo vunte happies ayipovalaaa...brahmins meedha yedusthu kukovaala...ultimate comedy.
 

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Sudras (by defn of not the alleged top 3 ) are ruling majority of the country
Dalits - ruling is still long way

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 01:04 pm:      



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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 01:03 pm:      

LOL
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 01:02 pm:      

Ohh opposite side ante opposition side kaadu in power side aaaa adirindi pada chadarangam.... Ainaa evadikosam partnership..... 1000 yrs thokkinanduku kruthagnatha tho ivvalaa partnership.... Mee dependency lekunda vaallanthata vaallu power lo undaleru ani vaallante chulakana??? Lol @ arrogance
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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 12:59 pm:      

opposite side ante opposition ani ee talaki masina vaadu kooda anukodu
 

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Tugoboy:

Modi em itlu?


ippudu oka chaata bhaaratham.... Modi is manasika b, Modi is keelubomma in chethulu of Rss (chethulu ante congress symbol, Rss lo andariki chethulunnay so Rss congress network)
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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 12:56 pm:      


Vjavasi:

Delhi lo power sudras-dalits ki ivvali ante malla gupchup......vere vallaki free ga sollu cheppataniki ready



Modi em itlu?
 

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Vjavasi:

Delhi lo power sudras-dalits ki ivvali ante malla gupchup......


evadu gupchup.... Kallu dobbayaa.... No partnership....purely sc/st s ki mathrame power ani cheppindi kanapadaleda
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Vjavasi:

it should be sudras as main partner on one side and dalits a junior partner, on the opposite political side it should be dalits as major partner and sudras as junior partner....


lol sc/sts major partner should be on the opposition side.... Evadiki dobbayi.... Aina enduku partnership sc/st s ki veellatho.... 1000 yrs gaa power lo undi thokkinanduku partnership ivvalaa... Lol @ arrogance
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Delhi lo power sudras-dalits ki ivvali ante malla gupchup......vere vallaki free ga sollu cheppataniki ready
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 12:51 pm:      

kallu dobbaya leka natana.....senior partnershp for dalits on one side and junior partner on another side of politics ani kaadha post lo vunnadhi
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 12:47 pm:      

Lol arrogance evadidi??? 1000 yrs gaa power enjoy chesthoo chauvnistic Bs tho Jamison sc/sts ni thokkesthoo eeee rojuki vallaki Power ivvamante junior partner ga aithe alochistam ane vaalladi arrogance
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paadindee paatara.. anna chandamgaa..roju endhi vayya idi..edo kotha tune tho vasthaava ante..roju hindholam nunchi andholanam yenaa...nee chethul ki nee keyboard ko oka namaskaram vayya...

 

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ikkade chodochu veella arrogance......sudrulu chethakani vallu antunnaru....malla neethul chebutunnaru SC/ST bhjala meedha nundi......There is little difference in intellectual abilities between dalits and most sudras....ofcourse dalits physcial material condition much worse
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 12:25 pm:      

Varna system is like water in well.....aa system lo vunna vallaki aa paridhi daati alochanalu raavu, vachinaa chala kashtam......bayata nundi kotha alochanalu, kotha vyavastha vachina taruvatha maarpu modalu ayyindhi
 

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1) 1000 yrs ruling lo unnaru aina inka power vodulukom to sc/st s....
2) 1000 yrs ga ruling lo unnaru aina oka tappudu vyavastha ni maarcha leni chethkaani thanam
3) 1000 yrs ga ruling lo unnaru aina kaneesam useless intellectual output ivvaleni chethakani thanam

Veellaki power ivvadam better aaa leka never tried never tested sc/st s ki power ivvadam better aaa.... To me sc/st s seem to be logical go-TO to hand over power at all levels....
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Vjavasi:

SC/STs ni baaga vadukunnaru last century vallaki emi ivvakunda




evadu evadini vadukunnadu... eemm chowdary, reddy vari veedullo lasttt house payakhana undadaa??? akkada cleaning evari tho cheyyincharu last 1000 years??? chowdarees, reddies sontham ga clean chesukunnara????

ennoo centuries nunchi panchayateeyulu head chesaru ga aa rendu kulalu... vallu enduku clean water provide cheyyaledu andhra pradesh lo??? land ceiling act vachaka evaru start chesar ayya binami vyavaharalu.... ekkadooo oka iddaru mugguru mahanibhavalu thappa land tirigi ichaya aa rendu kulalu?
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advani brahmin kada he gave opportunity for modi to become cm when no one knows who he was or what caste he belonged to.






Modi CM ga oka very peculiar situation lo ayyadu as a temporary replacement to keshubhai patel......taruvatha pattu tappakunda mundhuku velladu....Advani sin dhi, baniya type caste brahmin kaadhu
 

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Vjavasi:

AP lo so called land owning sudras 1000yrs nundi power lo vunnar anukundham.....mari 1000 yrs power lo vundi kooda intellectual output emi ledhu ante ardham



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Abcdefghij:

dasa disa nirdesistunnara...aiyte ok


Yepp... Any problem???
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Vjavasi:

oho land owning castes power loki rakudadha.....me taravatha inka SC/STs ke icheyyala...


power Loki raakoodadu enti.... 1000 yrs ga desanni elindi vaalle gaa lol.... Kotthaga power adagadam enti
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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 11:55 am:      


Thikka_sankara:




dasa disa nirdesistunnara...aiyte ok



vjavasi
advani brahmin kada he gave opportunity for modi to become cm when no one knows who he was or what caste he belonged to.
enno opportunities vuntai but at the same time leader kavali ante ee opportunities saripovu kodiga in-born kuda vundali...
krishna madiga kodiga vunnayi but narrow minded caste tho sankanakipoyadu
bckrisnayya ki kodiga vunnayi but cannot outgrow him self to embrace other communities...ichina opportunity ni next level ki tesukeelaledu.
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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 11:54 am:      


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kiki ayanedoo try chesthunnadu... asalu dalit problem verey... sudras verey, backward cassetes verey... anni issues all mix fruit juice kodthunnaru ga...

sudras eppudu antaranithanam tho badha padina dakhalalu leney leevu... infact chala villages lo sudras are dharmakarthas to many temples for last 1000 years and gave employment and free lands to bapans... endaro veda pandithulaki daanalu chesey stage lo eppatnunchoo unnarr for 1000s of years... Sudras are pillars of strength in war time.. and annadata in peace time... vallani respect cheyyani bapan or king or trader undadu... reddys became kings and vallaki fullll support from bapans or traders... kakateeyulu kamma veerulu vallaki support lo evaru venakki taggaledu ga... rayala variki support chesthaney unnaru ga...

vellalo backward cassesets konni unnayi... padmashalis today are considered BC-B. Kani appatlo telangana lo enno temples kattincharu vallaki vachina surplus money tho... british time lo weaving tho vella brathukulu nashanam ayyayi... munnur kapulu unnaru telangana lo veelu mari reddy rajulaki kaapu kasaru... nizam ki law enforcement chesi pettaru... kani 200 year british rule lo venakapaddaru along with Nizams double taxing etc...


vellani dalits ni mix chesi dalit problem ni chalaa takkuva chesinanduku ee tdp vallani khandinchali.... siggundala dalit problem ni sudras tho mix chesinanduku... asalu dalit aney dantlo kuda cassestes ki verey problem (menial jobs, antaranithanam, vedas ki devudu erugu.. kanisam ramayanam, bharatam vindaniki kuda stage deggariki ranichey vallu kaadu), tribes ki verey problem (vellaki devullu verey untaru, Shankaracharya vallani ammavaru, rudrudu ani kalipesaru, vella problem jungles are their resources avi teesesthunnaru.. mainstream economy lo vallaki access ledu. But these guys didnt do menial jobs.. vellalo vellaki malli kings untaru koya doralu, konda doralu etc)... iddarini kalipi dalit ani chesaru chudu adayya congress sigguleni thanam ki nidarsanam...

Asalu continous ga padey theds lo oka chaitanyam ledu paadu ledu.. okka dalit issue meeda disco undadu... govt dalits ki emi chesindi ani info undadu.. emi cheyyalani request undadu...
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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 11:54 am:      

oho land owning castes power loki rakudadha.....me taravatha inka SC/STs ke icheyyala.....SC/STs ni baaga vadukunnaru last century vallaki emi ivvakunda.....ippudu vallaki motham icheyyali anta....it should be sudras as main partner on one side and dalits a junior partner, on the opposite political side it should be dalits as major partner and sudras as junior partner....very reasonable formula

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 11:53 am:      


Vjavasi:

AP lo so called land owning sudras 1000yrs nundi power lo vunnar anukundham..


vunnar anukodam enti.... If we go by ur definition power unnadi valle....

Vjavasi:

mari 1000 yrs power lo vundi kooda intellectual output emi ledhu ante ardham chesukovachu varna system entha karudu kattina vayavastha no....


enti ardham chesukunedi.... Two things....

1) you claim the intellectual output was useless....so what's the point in failing to generate uselessness

2) 1000 yrs power lo undi oka system ni maarchaleka poina chethakani vaalla chethullo future ni petti future ni kooda chanka naakinchadam waste....let's give power to those who were never tried and tested....true scs/sts.....
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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 11:50 am:      


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Guys, please stop your petty fights in this thread



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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 11:49 am:      


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blindness gurinchi nuvvu cheppaali?
why not in T and AP? ani nenantey
bujaalu thadimesukoni occhesaav, ki ki
leadership and charismatic qualities anta
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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 11:49 am:      


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Guys, please stop your petty fights in this thread....understand the gravity of the discussion going on...Next century ki bharatavani dasa disa ni nirdesinche guidelines ni formulate chesthunnam....please take your fights to some other threads
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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 11:48 am:      

AP lo so called land owning sudras 1000yrs nundi power lo vunnar anukundham.....mari 1000 yrs power lo vundi kooda intellectual output emi ledhu ante ardham chesukovachu varna system entha karudu kattina vayavastha no....unless you think lack of intellectual output is a genetic problem of sudras like a racist, you have to accept varna system is really brutal
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 11:47 am:      


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banistavam ante bala lokesh ktr jagan rahul ki jai kodithe antaru

but leadership and charismatic qualities ni appreciate chesina tesukolekapovatam is blindness.
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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 11:47 am:      

sudras ki villege leadership eppudaina ichara meeru unna chotu asala ..
bs tokkamannaru tokkesam anthena story ?
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 11:45 am:      

No probe let's make it so....appatikaina daily eee threads torture tapputhundi ante ade better lol.... Anyway Delhi lo malli eee land owning castes ki enduku power.... Akkada kooda only sc st ani pettali.... Yadavs were also ruling north for more than a thousand years in some form or other.... Malli alanti chethakaani vaallaki power enduku....


Whole country lo only people eligible to be in ruling positions are sc/st ani declare cheddam....I guess, it's practically implementable too as democracy by nbrs makes it easy.... Let's do it and get rid power from the hands of chetha kaani rulers
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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 11:44 am:      

asalu politics lo caste tokka enti...

backwardness ki education ivvatam chalu rest antha DLM kaburlu...

starting lo opportunities ivvali so they get inspired etc but 100's of years taruvatha kuda edo cheyali anukovatam bad...

leaders annedi inborn ravali okkadu cheste raru
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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 11:41 am:      


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What is not??? 1000 yrs chethilo power pwttukuni emi peekaleka poyaar antunnavaa?? Alaanti vaallaki future lo power ichhi use emundi Mari?? Let's rotate and give power to other sudras .... At least Ap lo compulsory sc/st cm candidate for next election ani rule pettaina party ke votes veddam.... Vaallani empower cheddam



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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 11:40 am:      

OK alage chedham......AP/Telangana lo SC/ST and other sudras who never got power nundi CM ni chose chedham....mari next 100yrs Delhi lo PM plus top five cabinet ministers, bureacrats, judges Sudras, SCs,STs nundi kaavali, including so called land owning sudras or intermediate castes
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 11:39 am:      


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jr ntr cm, aadi koduku cm, aadi manamadu cm
nee antha baanisa, total db loney evadu ledu, undadu
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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 11:36 am:      


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why not T and AP?




ban chand kal mokutha attitude by educated ....
cannot stand up or spineless by educated against dora tanam
cannot even take criticism of OU batch by educated coz its my state attitude by so called educated and start using fictionary powers like mod giri



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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 11:35 am:      

What is not??? 1000 yrs chethilo power pwttukuni emi peekaleka poyaar antunnavaa?? Alaanti vaallaki future lo power ichhi use emundi Mari?? Let's rotate and give power to other sudras .... At least Ap lo compulsory sc/st cm candidate for next election ani rule pettaina party ke votes veddam.... Vaallani empower cheddam
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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 11:32 am:      

What is the intellectual output of so called land owning "powerful" groups in AP or in the south in the last 1000 years?
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 11:29 am:      

Kastam emundi....let's take it at your face value and accept dalit definition.... Then, at least 1000 years Andhra lo ruling lo unnaru and continue avthunnaru....inka case enti???
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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 11:27 am:      

poni oka Brahmanudini adagandi......evaru sudrulo spashtam ga chebuthadu sastrala nundi nenu chepedhi antha kashtam ga vunte
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 11:23 am:      

If this is the definition of Dalits, Andhra was a dalit kingdom for at the least 1000 years and counting....lol
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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 11:21 am:      

Last 50-100yrs lo land owning South sudras ki power vachi kochem sokulu choopistunnar kani....basically at an intelletual level they were not much different from other sudras or even dalits......veella nayakulu Delhi pothe bebebe
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 11:17 am:      

dalits ki power eppudu undi deenemma iclude cheskuntunnar kada
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 11:14 am:      

OCs ani prastutham declare cheyyabadina vallu andharu varna vyavastha prakaram upper caste kaadhu......AP lo sudra castes oh memu pistha ani todalu kottukovachu DBs lo.....kaani overall ga desham vyavharallo meeku antha scene ledhu.....mostly these groups are intellectually poor and ignorant
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 11:09 am:      

Dalits, BCs dhaggariki poyi Kamma, Kapu, velama, Reddy ni meeru meelo okarigaa accept chesthaara ani adigithe emi cheptharo chudali
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 11:07 am:      


Vjavasi:

mundhu meeru sudra definition telusukovali mastaru......aa list lo PV, Rosayya tappa andharu sudrule



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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 11:07 am:      

UP, Bihar lo BCs ki , ikkada OCs ki asalu comparison ledhu..........AP, T lo sankhya parnga balamaina BC caste lekapovatam valla inkaa OC pethanam nadusthandhi
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 11:06 am:      


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I see
Neelam Sanjeeva reddy
Kasu brahmananda reddy
PV
Chenna Reddy, twice
NTR, thrice
Nadendla
Nedhurumalli
Kotla
CBN, thrice
YSR twice
Rosaiah
KKR
KCR
loooks like lots of sudras got power





mundhu meeru sudra definition telusukovali mastaru......aa list lo PV, Rosayya tappa andharu sudrule.....vengal rao ni maricharu.....pre-independence vellaki peddaga pethanam ledhu congress lanti party lo.....Sanjeev Reddy Prakasham lanti valla kindha vundi paiki vachadu
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 11:05 am:      

Add Jalagam engal rao also to the list
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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 10:59 am:      


Vjavasi:

What happened in UP and Bihar in 90s happened in south immediately after independence.....Sudras got power in south immediately after independence, reason why south is relatively better compared to North



I see
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Kasu brahmananda reddy
PV
Chenna Reddy, twice
NTR, thrice
Nadendla
Nedhurumalli
Kotla
CBN, thrice
YSR twice
Rosaiah
KKR
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loooks like lots of sudras got power
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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 10:58 am:      


Vjavasi:

Land ownership vunte Sudras kaadhu ani ekkada ledhu.....varna system prakaram sudras ee.



ippudu ardjam ayyindi gaa logic!!Kummari-Kammari-Mangali-kapu-Dalits ni...manam...manam barampuram ani cheppi....kamma-reddy land lords...vallani...valla kalu kinda cheppulu gaa unchesukovacchu!!tappu ledu!!basic gaa all sudras gaa!!kya logic hai sirji!!
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 10:48 am:      

Kiki spineless shoulder shooters
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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 10:45 am:      


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Sudra ante endhi? AP, T lo unde agra varnalu, bhuswamulaki adhikaram vasthe adhedho chakali, mangali vallaku adhikaram vachinantha buildup isthunnaru kadha




neeku inka matter artham kaledu... K's chala weak... vallu frime ministers aythey kaani desam bagupadadu...

ayna CBN ki chance isthey no annadu ga... appudey cheyyalsindi.. deve gowda ki ichi tappu chesarr
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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 10:39 am:      

Land ownership vunte Sudras kaadhu ani ekkada ledhu.....varna system prakaram sudras ee....intellectual poverty anedhi common among sudras-dalits......south lo sudras konchem better power mundhe vachindi kabatti....ippudu aa power inka kindhaki vellali for other sudras-dalits to benefit

ee state level power valla kontha benefit vunna south sudras ki overall ga India level choosthe they don't really have either political, financial or intellectual power
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 10:24 am:      


Vjavasi:

Sudras got power in south immediately after independence




Sudra ante endhi? AP, T lo unde agra varnalu, bhuswamulaki adhikaram vasthe adhedho chakali, mangali vallaku adhikaram vachinantha buildup isthunnaru kadha
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 10:04 am:      


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UP and Bihar were able to elect Mayawati, Mulayam, Lallo etc etc
why not south do the same? why not T and AP?






What happened in UP and Bihar in 90s happened in south immediately after independence.....Sudras got power in south immediately after independence, reason why south is relatively better compared to North
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 10:01 am:      


Vjavasi:

Eknath Khadse, the senior Bjp sudra leader from Maharashtra is the latest victim of this Cong-RSS joint system......Asalu CM avvalsina vaadu, most senior minister in Bjp, ippudu complete ga pakkaki tosesaaaru



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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 09:58 am:      

Eknath Khadse, the senior Bjp sudra leader from Maharashtra is the latest victim of this Cong-RSS joint system......Asalu CM avvalsina vaadu, most senior minister in Bjp, ippudu complete ga pakkaki tosesaaaru
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 09:55 am:      

what about the TRS, TDP, YSRCP joint system in telugu states?
UP and Bihar were able to elect Mayawati, Mulayam, Lallo etc etc
why not south do the same? why not T and AP?
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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 09:53 am:      

Backward caste peru chepukoni inka backward ness lo continue avuthunaru as simple as that , they dont want the caste system to be removed to gain benfits so they remain backward for ever .. idi corect kadu ane chepee diryam marche praytnam chese dammu ye politcal party ki ledu prasthutham radu raledu
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2016 - 09:44 am:      

The main issue is their intellectual poverty, the Cong-RSS joint system in Delhi is taking advantage of that

https://krishnarjun108.wordpress.com/2016/06/05/the-intellec tual-poverty-of-sudras-and-dalits/