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Ishan:

"puttina vaniki maranamu thappadu...maraninchina vaadiki janmamu thappadu...anivaaryamagu ee vishayamu gurinchi chintinchuta thagadu..."



idhey...type chesey opika ledhu :d
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vaarni.....title tondarllo choosi...Brahmam pleasure ante mana Bemmi uncle meedha thed anukunna...

lopala content soothe naa metta burra ki oka mukka ekkaledhu.....
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Nenu cheppindi bhi Ghantasala de...meeru chppindi "puttina vaniki maranamu thappadu...maraninchina vaadiki janmamu thappadu...anivaaryamagu ee vishayamu gurinchi chintinchuta thagadu..." - for "Jatasya hi dhruvo mrityu. Dhruvam janama mrutasya cha..." ani untundi..
"Imagination is More Powerful Than Knowledge" - Einstein.
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Bharatham lo Drutharaastrudi charector ki manam antha chaalaa daggara gaa untaaam.. manam chese prathi paniki oka reason ethiki pettu koni, aa logic correct ani vere valla meeda rudduthaam.. ledu mana reason correct ani saripettu kontaaam.. enthati medhavulu vachi cheppina vinam, mana logic manade...


manaki telisindi ava ginja antha kuda undadu.. mana vayassu aa phylosphy ni ardham chesukonathi kudaa kaadu, kaani phylospy meeda oka conclusion ki vachi, mana chuttu goda kattesukoni chevulu musu kontaaam...


idi mostly due to thamo gunam...


Drutha raastrudu evaru enthati mahanu bhavulu cheppina vinattlu natinchina thanaki edi kaavaalo ade chestaadu..


Dhurdhanudi anthe, adi thappu, adharmama ani telisina ide cheyaali, ilage cheyaali ani pistundi, chestaadu....
Annitikante Imp thing..ELections lo PRP/ Chiru ghora parabhavam Oxygen ichindi N fans ki..That's enough to keep them Alive for rest of their Lives... Simhadri:

correct.. thats what I say all the time.. PRP otami chatuna bathikestunnar

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Ishan:

anduke Gnaani kaani vaadu sadaaa karmalani aaacharinchuchoone vundavalenu annadu bhagavaanudu.



naa annaya thega chadivevaadu ivanni. my uncle and him used to have lots of discussions regarding spirituality, geetha etc...
Ghantasala gaari bhagavadgeeta tape vintey gurthunnavi very few. "puttina vaatiki maranamu thappadhu" anukuntu edho untadhi...alaaney meeru cheppindhi kooda...
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Anand_n:

ivale tiramisu



deeni recipe ettandi. Veggie kaabatti ekkuva options undavemo verey recipes ki.
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Baagundi story...anduke Gnaani kaani vaadu sadaaa karmalani aaacharinchuchoone vundavalenu annadu bhagavaanudu.
"Imagination is More Powerful Than Knowledge" - Einstein.
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I guess essence of story is one




Very true :-) Essence of all scriptures is the same :-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Jalsa:




LOL - aa thread lo recipes emanna kavali ante let me know - ivale tiramisu finish chesaru pillalu :-)

My favorite scripture story that I heard along with the one about coal basket..

A woman read the bible everyday through her childhood and tried to understand it ...by the time she started to understand it ,old age set in and she started forgettingwhat she had learnt...to a point she had forgotten all of the book except one word when the angel of death arrived to take her. But that one word was enough to take her to heaven. That word was Love.

Irrespective of the scripture it came from - I think that puts the path to salvation in a nutshell :-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Lionswalkalone:

indefinitely for abusing himself



Mods, please ban LWA for abusing me by highlighting this point.
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Jalsa:

chinna mundaavaadini.



MOds.. Please Ban jalsa kurrod indefinitely for abusing himself
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Anand_n:





That could be true. The story i posted was what I had got from email fwd. I guess essence of story is one
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Anand_n:

meeku na vayasu vache sariki inka cheptaru lendi :-)



andi gindi pindi anakandi....chinna mundaavaadini... kiki
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Jalsa:

idhi try chesaa adhi try chesaa ani prapancham lo annitiki cheppestunnaaru...




lol - inni ellu bratikaka aa matram chudapote/try cheyyakapote elaga - meeku na vayasu vache sariki inka cheptaru lendi :-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Anand_n:



meeko dandam pinni gaaru. idhi choosa adhi choosaa, idhi try chesaa adhi try chesaa ani prapancham lo annitiki cheppestunnaaru...kiki
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Ee cinema nenu chusa anipinchi search kotta - chinnappudu missionary school lo chepparu :-)

http://www.biblebooks.us/resources/poems/ps.php?sid=330
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Radio:




Nice story..
Ntr_Fan - pandu
Simhadri - Laddu
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An interesting story I about what reading Gita can do? How many of us understand the spirituality and all the concepts? Is it worth when we do not understand a lot of the stuff!.

Story:
An old Farmer lived on a farm in the mountains with his young grandson.
Each morning Grandpa was up early sitting at the kitchen table reading his Bhagavath Geetha. His grandson wanted to be just like him and tried to imitate him in every way he could.


One day the grandson asked, "Grandpa! I try to read the Bhagavath Geetha
just like you but I don't understand it, and what I do understand I forget as soon as I close the book. What good does reading the Bhagavath Geetha do?"


The Grandfather quietly turned from putting coal in the stove and replied, "Take this coal basket down to the river and bring me back a basket of water."

The boy did as he was told, but all the water leaked out before he got back to the house. The grandfather laughed and said, "You'll have to move a little faster next time," and sent him back to the river with the basket to try again. This time the boy ran faster, but again the basket was empty before he returned home. Out of breath, he told his grandfather that it was impossible to carry water in a basket, and he went to get a bucket instead.



The old man said, "I don't want a bucket of water; I want a basket of water. You're just not trying hard enough," and he went out the door to watch the boy try again.

At this point, the boy knew it was impossible, but he wanted to show his grandfather that even if he ran as fast as he could, the water would leak out before he got back to the house.


The boy again dipped the basket into river and ran hard, but when he reached his grandfather the basket was again empty. Out of breath, he said, "See Grandpa, it's useless!"

"So you think it is useless?" The old man said, "Look at the basket." The boy looked at the basket and for the first time realized that the basket was different. It had been transformed from a dirty old coal basket and was now clean, inside and out.

"Son, that's what happens when you read the Bhagavath Geetha. You might not
understand or remember everything, but when you read it, you will be changed, inside and out. That is the work of
Krishna in our lives."
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Ishan:


Not sure if Markandeya tells the whole story of Ramayana,




Have to find a good version to read it...link unte ivvandi :-)Search cheste only one book by Peter Scharff is coming up ..
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Idi telidu - have to research it a bit more :-) Interesting - does Ramopakhyana and ramayana match?




Not sure if Markandeya tells the whole story of Ramayana, but he tells him the story of ravana abducting sita, because Yudhistira was in despair when Jayadratha abducts drupadi.
"Imagination is More Powerful Than Knowledge" - Einstein.
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Ishan:

There is an episode of ramopakhyana in aranyaka parvam of bharatham where Markandeya advices Yudhistira to be patient and not despair when his wife was abducted.




Idi telidu - have to research it a bit more :-) Interesting - does Ramopakhyana and ramayana match?
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Anand_n:


Dig cheste chala gaps untayi




Ledandi, the fact that hanuma was mentioned so many times is testimony to it. There is even a story of krishna and anjaneya fighting. There is an episode of ramopakhyana in aranyaka parvam of bharatham where Markandeya advices Yudhistira to be patient and not despair when his wife was abducted.
"Imagination is More Powerful Than Knowledge" - Einstein.
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savithri



"Imagination is More Powerful Than Knowledge" - Einstein.
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during pandavas vanavasam, once savithri was interested



Ekkado munigi ikkada tela
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good catch...

pandava vanavasam cinema effect....savithri ante drupadi...draupadi ante savithri....ame impact alantidi......
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Ramudi sangathi teliyadu kaani, hanumanthudi ki chaala unnayi references...Jendaa pai kapi raaaju ani untundi kada...arjunudi ratham meeda hanuma flag...inka chaalaa saarlu hanuma entrance isthaadu.




the big reference to hanuman:

during pandavas vanavasam, once savithri was interested some specific flower or something like that, requests bheema to get it. Bheema on the way to get it, was stopped by Hanuman. Bheema was not in a position to recognize him, and boasts about his own strength. Then hanuman teaches him a lesson by asking him to raise his tail to make a way. Then Bheema realises he is nothing but hanuman.
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Ishan:




Dig cheste chala gaps untayi - so history anukokunda social and moral stories to suit the era anukunte best :-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Jalsa:

sorry, read it as enthaina venkatesh fan kadhaa




Not a fan - movie bagunte choostanu ante :-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Bharatam lo Ramudu ki references / links undali kada ?




Ramudi sangathi teliyadu kaani, hanumanthudi ki chaala unnayi references...Jendaa pai kapi raaaju ani untundi kada...arjunudi ratham meeda hanuma flag...inka chaalaa saarlu hanuma entrance isthaadu.
"Imagination is More Powerful Than Knowledge" - Einstein.
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sorry, read it as enthaina venkatesh fan kadhaa
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Risingstar:

Ontari Poratam chesthunnaru gaa



enthaina venkatesh kadha pinni gaaru
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Ontari Poratam chesthunnaru gaa
Now everybody using Colour Paper & Colour TV in the House
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Ishan:

If Krishna was mentioned in Mahabharatha which clearly says that he was vishnu's incarnation, how could 'Krishna was made an avatara of vishnu'. Were those schools of thoughts existed before Bharatha time?




Who knows which came first-its all conjecture ...The only way they hypothecate is by the lore ... if there is Radha Krishna lore without any reference to Vishnu, there is a good possibility it was an independent sect that was blended in or that it was all together and one thread separated into its own entity :-)

If Krishna came after Rama, given they are avataras of Vishnu - Bharatam lo Ramudu ki references / links undali kada ?
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Anand_n:

There is a school of thought that says Radha Krishna and Bhakti culture evolved separately in the Gangetic belt and that Krishna was made an avatara of Vishnu later to establish Vishnu as the Supreme God.There is a good possibility that Rukmini gained importance then..




This is kind of confusing to me. If Krishna was mentioned in Mahabharatha which clearly says that he was vishnu's incarnation, how could 'Krishna was made an avatara of vishnu'. Were those schools of thoughts existed before Bharatha time?
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Cocanada:

sounds shocking to me.




Its a school of thought - history dig cheste ilantivi chala untayi - chronology of mythology :-)
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Anand_n:

Krishna was made an avatara of Vishnu later to establish Vishnu as the Supreme God



sounds shocking to me.
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Ishan:

completely ignores Rukmini/lakshmi the actual cohort of krishna.




There is a school of thought that says Radha Krishna and Bhakti culture evolved separately in the Gangetic belt and that Krishna was made an avatara of Vishnu later to establish Vishnu as the Supreme God.There is a good possibility that Rukmini gained importance then..

The Radha Krishna belief system is complete in itself just like the Ardhanareeswara belief system we discussed earlier..

So depending on which sect you talk to - there are different versions of Krishna's life..South lo Rukmini/Satyabhamaliki ki unna prominence krishna janmasthanam ayina Mathura and vrindavan lo undadu :-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Anand_n:

This is a matter of interpretation:-) Primacy of Radha is not just an Iskcon thing - Bhakti culture
ki origin Radha-Krishna iconography antaru- all of mathura- vrindavan area resonates with the Radhe Radhe greeting - nothing to do with Iskcon




I know. But ISKCON over-exaggerates that aspect and completely ignores Rukmini/lakshmi the actual cohort of krishna.
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Ishan:

I dont know why they give so much importance to Radha when rukmini is the actual soul-mate of krishna.




This is a matter of interpretation:-) Primacy of Radha is not just an Iskcon thing - Bhakti culture ki origin Radha-Krishna iconography antaru- all of mathura- vrindavan area resonates with the Radhe Radhe greeting - nothing to do with Iskcon :-)
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Der_schuler:

I am out of this thread....I can't participate in superficial discussions.....but naa salaha......manchi adhyatmika guruvuni chuskondhi......ikkada janalani adigi....anavasaramaina.....effort pettakandi and it includes me.......

IF YOU ARE TRUE TO YOUR SEARCH......THE TRUTH WILL FIND YOU..........






Kish as Der mentions in his last post, If u r serious, u need guri. a guru that qualified....


this is not a forum to discuss...


as mentasachinodu asid, Brahman and Brahmin are different.. look Chivks laugh.... ala untadi ee DB..
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correct.. thats what I say all the time.. PRP otami chatuna bathikestunnar

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Mrhyderabad:

Anyone here who can explain this in simple terms?




nenu cheppa kada..
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Chivuks:

bedar nenu try setta ..


serious gaa answer chestharu anukunna... disappoint chesaaru...

Anyone here who can explain this in simple terms?
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Kish:




Typical ISCKON ranting. They have some strange beliefs. They think vishnu is an avatar of Krishna defying the basic hindu mythology and I dont know why they give so much importance to Radha when rukmini is the actual soul-mate of krishna. They think all the other gods are demi-gods and they severely criticize any body believing any other gods except krishna. They think every other god is Demi-god and shiva is the head of all the demi gods. I met many ISCKONites and they behave very strangely and they have this condescending attitude towards all their fellow hindus.
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Neel:

who is this Superman
can you please explain


Superman is a superhero....he is born to marlon brando n they are from planet called krypton i think....when he was born something happens which destroys everyone in his planet n superman somehow lands on this planet earth....he will be raised with good values byh is adapted parents....as he starts to grow he realizes he has super powers....he can fly...he can send the red thing through his eyes....n several other stuff....
He Uses his power to save people...mostly in manhattan.....he wont judge someone when he is in need to be saved...he just doest it....and he wont say u got to believe in me inorder for me to save u....He wont let people die when he could have helped n say "its ur karma so u got to die"..and he never uses his powers for his personal gains n wont even encourage people to form cults in his praise... an epitome for morals n ethics....
if u want more info mail me at elcamino@krypto.com ....i have versions of superman philosophy (comic books) in telugu,hindi and english:D
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Truelies:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Smhj4Zf-hTU/SbJXo73Gk3I/AAAAAAAAEf g/VZkCqyjjisk/s400/money.jpeg




super man'ly
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Chivuks:

nuvvu sincere ga pamu kosam vetku .. ade vachi nee kalki suttu kuntadi ani ...






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IF YOU ARE TRUE TO YOUR SEARCH......THE TRUTH WILL FIND YOU

Mrhyderabad:

If you are still around.. konchem layman terms lo explain cheyandi. If possible with an example.




bedar nenu try setta ..

nuvvu sincere ga pamu kosam vetku .. ade vachi nee kalki suttu kuntadi ani ...
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Eluri_kurradu:

Edaina kastam vacchinappudu "mana time bad em chesthaam?" anukunevaadu vairaginaa? Leka chetha kani vaada?




LOL - monna office lo oka colleague to discussion :-) Ayina philosophy, world religions and psychology major :-)

India lo inni courtcases undavu anduke doctors are better off ante...
Ayina answer :-)

India is a country that believes in Karma, if a truck hits them , people will tell temselves it is due to their bad karma ...they reconcile to the circumstances :-)

This(USA) is a country made of restless souls who refused to reconcile with what their own countries offered and came here in search of control and what they perceive is their right - they do not reconcile, they sue :-)

Interesting psychological viewpoint anipinchindi :-)
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Neel:

who is this Superman






http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Smhj4Zf-hTU/SbJXo73Gk3I/AAAAAAAAEf g/VZkCqyjjisk/s400/money.jpeg


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Elcaminocapastrino:

if u really want to worship better worship superman....




who is this Superman
can you please explain
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Mrhyderabad:

If you are still around.. konchem layman terms lo explain cheyandi. If possible with an example.





If you are really hungry, you will eat what ever u find..
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Eluri_kurradu:

Nenoppukonu




Why , you honor
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jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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kish thammudu how r u??? emiti chiru la undey vadivi gummadi la re entry icchav....aa iskon joliki ellaku....adhoka cult....brain spoil sesthar...if possible stay away from every religion....if u really want to worship better worship superman....he sees world in black n white..with purity of a child...chala simple approach....so far i found his philosphy more pure than those of anyother god or any religion....
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Der_schuler:

IF YOU ARE TRUE TO YOUR SEARCH......THE TRUTH WILL FIND YOU


If you are still around.. konchem layman terms lo explain cheyandi. If possible with an example.
If god doesn't like the way I live, let him tell me, not you
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Kish:

Edaina kastam vacchinappudu "mana time bad em chesthaam?" anukunevaadu vairaginaa? Leka chetha kani vaada?


Kashtamochinappudu bad time anukunna danni edurkuni/edurkuntoo navvuthoo kalamgadipevadu yogi, kharma ani tittukuntu badhaga bathukuthu face cheyadam chetakani vadu nijamga chetakanivaadu ani anukuntunna ..
What ever it is you must face it anthe ..
Ekkado munigi ikkada tela
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Kish:

I think Anand pinni is right. My age and my situation is very untimely to understand and follow the real principles of Geetha.




Knowledge and understanding pursue cheyyataniki age is not a constraint - nenu untimely annadi application of those principles ki :-)

And I can guarantee you one thing - as you experience more of life , you will continue to re-interpret and understand the same principles and knowledge differently... :-)


Chivuks:

so anavasaram ga life ni over analyze seyaku ..

Keep life simple and straight




Baaga chepparu :-) Live well, laugh a lot, love whole-heartedly, try not to hurt anyone and everything else will take care of itself :-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Kish:

I don't like about Hinduism is this Karma siddhantham.




yaa .. agree.. ee karma dharma ane concepts petti chala complicated chesaru .. religion ante simfle ga undali with concrete egjampils or intsant gratification like sin committing.. confessing to preist..done you are good to go types lo.ila abstract concepts petti religion ki quantum physics ki dfference lekunda sesaru.. khandisthunna
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Eluri_kurradu:




Annai, "vairagyam" ki, "chethakani thanam" ki theda enti?

Edaina kastam vacchinappudu "mana time bad em chesthaam?" anukunevaadu vairaginaa? Leka chetha kani vaada?
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Bathukantha palu prashnalamayamai bathukunu jana samudayam..
Badulukosamai vethukuta maani bathukutaye nyayam ..

When the time comes you will find all answers .. ani nammukuni bathukutunna ..
Nakanna chinnollu ila padaipodam emi bagaledu:-)

Kish:

I think Anand pinni is right.


Nenoppukonu
Ekkado munigi ikkada tela
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Der_schuler:




Thammi, Thanks for the info. I sent an email. Respond in leisure. Are you still in Chicago?
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anyways I am off...happy living and exploring kish........remember...BE true to ur quest and the truth will find you
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Chivuks:

real principles of geetha antu emi levu




evaru chepparu....convenience kosam cheppara meere???
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Kish:

The concept of "Consequences of sin in next life" is indirectly making people more evil and more sinful.




Read my post again...ur previous karma only decides the form and type u are born as......and nuthing about your current self......

"For example: if you had robbed some one of his job knowingly or unknowingly, YOU WILL FACE THE RESULT IN THIS LIFE...and above that you carry that sin also to your next life to an extent it decides what ur birth will be....THAT IS THE ONLY THING THAT Geetha says"

Nothing more nothing less
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Kish:

My age and my situation is very untimely to understand and follow the real principles of Geetha.




tammud .. nenu cheppina mata vinu ..
real principles of geetha antu emi levu (everybody interprets the same geetha in different lines which is a fact) .. so anavasaram ga life ni over analyze seyaku ..

Keep life simple and straight
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"Ur previous life and karma has a lot of bearing on what and how are you born and take shape...but....there are a lot of things that happen in this life which you shape by your own deeds in this life......




One of the few things I don't like about Hinduism is this Karma siddhantham. The concept of one's deeds in current life resulting in how one is born in other life doesn't make any sense.

Who cares how one is born in other life? I guess this kind of philosophy led to people not worrying about all the wrong things they do in this life. If Hinduism taught that Karma bears results in the same life, then the fear of sin or doing wrong would have affected lot of people. If one feels that whatever happens in next life, let me enjoy this life to the fullest even though I have to do evil things or make someone else suffer, then what will stop him?

The concept of "Consequences of sin in next life" is indirectly making people more evil and more sinful.
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quantumreverie.iitm@gmail.com

I will send you some really good resources for reading both in telugu,sanskrit and english
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Kish:

I am glad I am able to attend those lectures and trying to understand the feel of it, but somehow I get a feeling that those are unrealistic to follow.




Geetha as a recourse in defeat is the wrongest way to approach it......Geetha is the most complete philosophy.....that is out there.....and the greatness of geetha is that it never prescribes a form to God........any one can see his God in that...as long as that qulifies to be a God....
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eti avuthondi enduku ee toruture
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Kish:

My age and my situation is very untimely to understand and follow the real principles of Geetha.




Chaala tappu ga alochisthunnaru...anduke I hate discussing this stuff in DB with so many phony preachers around......I can respect ignorance but not some phony high headedness.....

Inner realization has got nothing to do with ur AGE OR STATUS QUO. ....its the most difficult thing to do.....the hardest possible thing.....and that is exactly why cowards around us preach that it is not for us...as they themselves can't do it......and want us to follow them to reinforce their EGO....

A proper GURU WILL only show you the way and let you walk.........they never force you into a thought.....so...find a guru......THINK.....ask ur INTELLECT...and YOU WILL FIND THE TRUTH....
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I am out of this thread....I can't participate in superficial discussions.....but naa salaha......manchi adhyatmika guruvuni chuskondhi......ikkada janalani adigi....anavasaramaina.....effort pettakandi and it includes me.......

IF YOU ARE TRUE TO YOUR SEARCH......THE TRUTH WILL FIND YOU..........

lastly, nenu naa guruvu nunchi nerchukunnadhi chepthanu:

"before u sleep, everyday, consciously see all your belongings emotional and physical burning in your mind's fire....let them go.....ascribe death to all that you have and believe are meant to be yours...and when you can see them burn in that fire with out any pertubation in your mind, you urself will feel that inner calm in you"
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Der and Pinni thanks for the inputs.

I think Anand pinni is right. My age and my situation is very untimely to understand and follow the real principles of Geetha.

When I listen to a lecture, I always try to apply it to myself and then to the people around me and try to analyze how it is possible to apply or follow the preachings and I get totally in-convinced.

The belief of Destiny is so rooted in my mind and thought that it seems very very difficult to follow the teachings of Geetha.

I am glad I am able to attend those lectures and trying to understand the feel of it, but somehow I get a feeling that those are unrealistic to follow.

PS: I really get amazed by the knowledge of Der and MS and ofcourse the Legendary Vivekadhara. Even though they all are of my age, the knowledge they attained is simply astounding. I think the age and knowledge criteria doesn't apply to them :-)
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Kish:

For some reason, with the very limited knowledge I have, I always think that Destiny supersedes everything and the people who are spiritual are driven by Destiny to be spiritual and sometimes there are few things that are beyond our control and that makes it impossible for people to follow what is taught in Geetha and I think that force which drives us away from being spiritual or being perfect is Destiny.




In this life YES.......3rd chapter lo adhe chepthadhu bhagawanudu:

"Ur previous life and karma has a lot of bearing on what and how are you born and take shape...but....there are a lot of things that happen in this life which you shape by your own deeds in this life......

Chapter 4...18th stanza:

"He who never gets motivated by personal desire, whose ego binding karma has been consumed in the fire of wisdom:such alone may be considered wise"....
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Anand_n:

but smiling a lot is good for you


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Mental_sachinodu:

Brahmin, Brahman used here are not the same.


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Anand anni yellow smileys avasarama post lo




LOL :-) may be not - but smiling a lot is good for you :-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Anand anni yellow smileys avasarama post lo
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Chivuks:

Krishna is branhmin ante, laloo prasad yadav oppukodu anukunta



Brahmin, Brahman used here are not the same.
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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Kish:

Hello pinni ela unnaaru?




Doing good :-) How are you :-)

Ekkadiko vellipoyavu :-)

Simple ga cheptanu, my take - you do not have to renounce things/pleasures :-) What you have to renounce is your dependence on these :-)If you have a car enjoy it to the fullest in the present ..but don't become so dependent on it that you are miserable if tomorrow you lose it :-)

Pelli ayina vallu , mee age lo unnavallu detachment/renunciation gurinchi alochinchadam , not just untimely, I think it is morally wrong :-)

Spiritual evolution is the most selfish goal there is - it is all and only about you :-)

Your immediate family is emotionally dependent on you - Oka sari detachment true sense lo set avute you cannot emotionally connect to your people:-) If everyone is yours, no one is yours - anduke Vanaprastha/Sanyasa ashrama age appropriate ga assign chesaru :-)

Ee age lo/ ee circumstances lo cheyyalsinavi appudu cheyyatame best antanu :-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
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Krishna is the Supreme Brahman




Krishna is branhmin ante, laloo prasad yadav oppukodu anukunta
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Kish:

Where should we draw a line between spirituality and reality?




I think u are equipped to answer that question...ask ur innerself......of what is the difference. There are no 2 different things as reality and spirituality.....that is the GIST of Geetha......

I will quote chapter 6...verse 7 for you:

"The tranquil sage who has conquered the (lower,egoic) self abides ever in the supreme self. He views with equanimity all the dualities: cold and heat,pleasure and pain,praise and blame

Chapter 5 23 skandha:

"he is truly the yogi who, living on earth, and up to the last moment of his life, can master every impulse of desire, craving and antipathy.He alone is a happy human being, who can see me in every living thing around him and can empathize with all manifestations of mine as he does with those of himself"
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Kish:

I read the whole lecture couple of times, but I failed to understand the zist. The statements seem to be contradicting each othe




Meeku cheppe age ledhui kaani...don't ask these questions to people here in this DB...in as much as I know...none of them here are even qualifies to be a guru...and most disastrously you might get a self righteous answer.......

Buy a book and read for yourself...or approach a GURU........the role of a teacher is very important in the spiritual quest if you are not equipped to pursue it all by urself......

It is almost trivial to show the loop holes in ppl's arguments here...esp those who claim that they are spiritually refined....

My suggestion: Be sincere in ur quest for that and I am sure GOD will find you...to help you out.....BUT the very first thing is to completely surrender yourself to the thought that he alone is ur destination...once U can do it....the answers will find you......irrespective of what form of GOD u believe or seek
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Kish kaaka..h r u? emmayipoyav inni rojulu..???




Hello chicha, I am fine. Ela unnaav? I have taken a break from DB for a while. I realized I became the person I always hated. I think this DB offers lot of useless information on castes etc and I thought I was getting too much of it.
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Hello pinni ela unnaaru?

I attended few ISKCON meetings (Thanks to Dasa babai) and I always wonder how all the lectures on Geetha make sense and how they are really applicable in real life. Where should we draw a line between spirituality and reality?

When Geetha teaches us to sacrifice materialistic pleasures and follow the path of renounce, I always wonder why the people giving the lecture or attending the lecture are present there at that moment (in US to be exact) when they have to be back in India content with their life and be happy with whatever God has given them. Why they had to come all the way to US giving up the country they were born in?

For some reason, with the very limited knowledge I have, I always think that Destiny supersedes everything and the people who are spiritual are driven by Destiny to be spiritual and sometimes there are few things that are beyond our control and that makes it impossible for people to follow what is taught in Geetha and I think that force which drives us away from being spiritual or being perfect is Destiny.
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Kish kaaka..h r u? emmayipoyav inni rojulu..???
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Krishna is the enjoyer and He wants to
enjoy. So He's the Supreme Brahman. He cannot enjoy anything, atmarama, He
can enjoy it in Himself. Therefore Radharani is the expansion of His
pleasure potency.




I read the whole lecture couple of times, but I failed to understand the zist. The statements seem to be contradicting each other.

If Brahman pleasure means giving up material pleasures, and the lecture starts saying Krishna is the supreme Brahman, how come he is known for his pastimes of worldly pleasures? How come all the principles he stipulated for the ordinary people to follow in Geetha to attain Moksha make sense when he himself was completely involved in material pleasures and worldly attachments?

What should be inferred from Lord Krishna's life?
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Kish:

So
without viddhi-marg, if anyone wants to learn the raga-marg immediately,
that is foolishness. That is foolishness.




I do not agree with this :-)but that is the debate I always have about the necessity of ritual/regulation...to each his own :-)
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Bottom line oka two line cheppadi. EE radharani Krishna evaru. EE serail ee Chanel vastundi
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Hello annai, I am fine, meerela unnaaru?
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Kish, how r u? :-)
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So Radha, so Radha and Krishna. Krishna is the enjoyer and He wants to
enjoy. So He's the Supreme Brahman. He cannot enjoy anything, atmarama, He
can enjoy it in Himself. Therefore Radharani is the expansion of His
pleasure potency. Krishna hasn't got to seek external things for His
pleasure. No. He is in Himself full, atmarama. So Radharani is expansion
of Krishna. Krishna is the energetic, and Radharani is the energy. Just
like energy and energetic, you cannot separate. Fire and the heat you
cannot separate. Wherever there is fire there is heat, and wherever there
is heat there is fire. Similarly, wherever there is Krishna there is
Radha. And wherever there is Radha there is Krishna. They are inseparable.
But He is enjoying. So Svarupa Damodara Gosvami has described this
intricate philosophy of Radha and Krishna in one verse, very nice verse.
Radha krishna-pranaya-vikrtir hladini-saktir asmad ekatmanav api bhuvi
pura deha-bhedam gatau tau [Cc. Adi 1.5]. So Radha and Krishna is the one
Supreme, but in order to enjoy, They have divided into two. Again Lord
Chaitanya joined the two into one. Chaitanyakhyam prakatam adhuna. That
one means Krishna in the ecstasy of Radha. Sometimes Krishna is in ecstasy
of Radha. Sometimes Radha is in ecstasy of Krishna. This is going on. But
the whole thing is Radha and Krishna means the one, the Supreme.


So Radha-Krishna philosophy is a very great philosophy. It is to be
understood in the liberated stage. Radha-Krishna philosophy is not to be
understood in the conditioned stage. But when we worship Radha-Krishna in
our conditional stage, actually we worship Laksmi-Narayana. You have seen
that picture, this viddhi-marg and raga-marg. Radha-Krishna worship is on
the platform of pure love, and Laksmi-Narayana worship is on the
regulative principles. So long we do not develop our pure love, we have to
worship on the regulative principles. One has to become a brahmachari, one
has to become a sannyasi, one has to perform the worship in this way, in
the morning he has to rise, he has to offer. So many rules and
regulations. There are at least sixty-four rules and regulations. So we
shall introduce them gradually as you develop. So in the viddhi-marg, when
you have no love for God or Krishna, we have to follow the regulative
principles and automatically..., there is practice. When practicing. Just
like you practice this mridanga playing. In the beginning it is not in
order, but when you become well versed in the practice, the sound will
come so nice. Similarly, when we are engaged by regulative principles in
the worship of Radha-Krishna, that is called viddhi-marg. And actually
when you are on the love platform, then that is called raga-marg. So
without viddhi-marg, if anyone wants to learn the raga-marg immediately,
that is foolishness. That is foolishness. Nobody can pass M.A. examination
without going through the regulative principles of primary schools and
colleges. So therefore I do not, I mean to say, indulge in the discussions
of Radha and Krishna so easily. Rather go on with the regulative principle
at the present moment. Gradually, as you become purified, as you become on
the transcendental platform, you'll understand what is Radha-Krishna.
Don't try to understand Radha-Krishna very quickly. It is a very big
subject. If we want to understand Radha-Krishna very quickly, then there
will be so many prakrita-sahajiyas. In India there are prakrita-sahajiya.
Just like Radha-Krishna dancing. Radha-Krishna has become a plaything. The
painting Radha-Krishna, Krishna is kissing Radha, Radha is kissing. These
are all nonsense. Radha-Krishna philosophy has to be understood by the
liberated person, not by the conditioned soul. So we shall await for the
fortunate moment when we are liberated, then we shall understand radha-
krishna-pranaya-vikrtir. Because Krishna and Radha, They are not on the
material field. Try to understand. This is Jiva Gosvami's analysis, that
Krishna is the Supreme Brahman. The Supreme Brahman cannot accept anything
material. So Radha is not in the material field.

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There are many hundreds of instances in Indian history that to realize the
Brahman pleasure they gave up everything. They gave up everything. That is
the way. Tapasya means voluntarily accepting something severe for
realizing the supreme pleasure. That is called tapasya. So if, for tasting
a little Brahman pleasure, all materialistic pleasures are to be given up,
do you think that the Supreme Brahman, Lord Krishna, is enjoying this
material pleasure? Is it very reasonable? This Krishna, He's enjoying
laksmi-sahasra-sata-sambhrama-sevyamanam [Bs. 5.29]. Hundreds and
thousands of goddess of fortune are engaged in His service. Do you think
these laksmis are material women? How Krishna can take pleasure in the
material women? No. This is mistake. Ananda-cinmaya-rasa-pratibhavitabhis
tabhir ya eva nija-rupataya kalabhih [Bs. 5.37]. In the Brahma-samhita
you'll find that He expands His ananda-cinmaya-rasa, the mellow of
transcendental pleasure potency. And these gopis are expansion of His
pleasure potency. And Radharani is the center. Radharani is the center. So
Radharani is not... Don't take that Radharani is an ordinary woman like we
have our wife or sister or mother. No. She is the pleasure potency. And
the birth of Radharani was not from the womb of any human being. She was
found by her father in the field. While father was plowing, he saw one
little nice child is lying there, and he had no children, so he caught it
and presented to the queen, "Oh, here we have got a very nice child." "How
you got?" "Oh, in the field." Just see. Radharani's janma is like that. So
this janma is today and Radha, this name is sometimes not found in
Bhagavata. So the atheistic class of men protest this Radharani's name is
not in the Srimad-Bhagavatam. How this name came, Radharani? But they do
not know how to see it. There is anayaradhyate. There are many gopis, but
there is mention that by this particular gopi He is served more
pleasingly. Krishna accepts this gopi's service more gladly.
Anayaradhyate. Aradhyate. This aradhate, this word, aradhyate means
worshiping. From this word aradhyate, Radha has come. But Radha's name are
there in other Puranas. So this is the origin.
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PS: This is from an email I got from one of my friends. I am not sure about the source but it is very interesting. Please don't use this thread for venting frustration on a community in particular or Hinduism as a whole

The lecture is pretty long so I will copy paste in parts. Please bear with me.


From a lecture spoken by Srila Prabhupada on
Radhastami, Srimati Radharani's Appearance Day.
Montreal, August 30, 1968



Now today is our Radhastami ceremony. I must speak now something about
Radharani, and then I shall go up, reach my apartment at twelve. In the
meantime, you can observe the ceremonies. So, so far Radharani, Radharani,
today is the birthday of Srimati Radharani. Radharani is the pleasure
potency of Krishna. Krishna is the Supreme Brahman. Just try to
understand. Krishna is the Supreme Brahman. Param brahma param dhama
pavitram paramam bhavan [Bg. 10.12]. So when param brahma wants to
enjoy... That enjoying spirit is there in the param brahma. Otherwise we
cannot have this enjoying spirit. Because we are part and parcel,
therefore we have got that enjoying spirit; but that is materially
contaminated. But the fact is there, because Krishna, He is enjoying, this
enjoying spirit we have got also, but I do not know how to enjoy. We are
trying to enjoy in the matter, in the dull matter. That is spiritual. So
brahman, brahman sukhanubhutya. People are trying to feel what is brahma-
sukha, pleasure of brahmanubhava. That is not material pleasure. So many
yogis, they have given up their family life, their kingdom, and meditating
to achieve that Brahman pleasure. Actually, the idea is Brahman pleasure.
So many brahmacaris, so many sannyasis, they are trying to achieve that
Brahman pleasure, and in order to achieve that Brahman pleasure they are
neglecting, they are kicking off all this material pleasure. Do you think
that Brahman pleasure is ordinary, this material pleasure? To achieve a
portion of Brahman pleasure, if they are kicking off all this material
pleasure... Don't talk of ourselves. We are ordinary men. In the history
we have got instances, that of Bharata Maharaja. Bharata Maharaja, under
whose name this planet is called Bharatavarsa. That Bharata Maharaja was
the emperor of the whole world. And as emperor he had his beautiful wife,
young children. But at the age of twenty-four years, just young man, he
gave up everything. All right. This is very old story, of course, but you
know Lord Buddha. He was also a prince. He was also prince, not ordinary
man, and he was ksatriya, and he was always enjoying with beautiful women.
That is the palace pleasure accustomed in every, in Oriental countries,
that in the palace there are many beautiful girls, they're always dancing
and giving pleasure to the kings and the prince. So Lord Buddha was also
in such pleasure, but he gave up everything and began to meditate.