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Posted on Thursday, August 30, 2018 - 08:00 am:       

Chaganti:
Kamma, Reddy & Brahmin exists in Guntur..
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Posted on Thursday, August 30, 2018 - 07:28 am:       


Shikari:

vinteresting..more details plz




to avoid caste discrimination brahmanaidu used to organise chaapakoodu. all castes kalisi koochoni bhojanam cheyadam to propose social unity and prosperity.

pangyam is like religion of army men.

in the same way army lo ki kooda anni jaathula nundi sainikula ni join cheskunevallu. SCs were called gosangis. vaallandarikeee(army lo heads) naidu title icharu. as they are from different castes naidu title dispersed to all castes.

pedha kamma chinna kamma division ilane vachindil. pedha kammas were in that army, chinna kammas were fellow people of kingdom. all castes lo ila divisions untayi. anduke maa subcaste pedhadhi valla subcaste chinnadhi antaru.

naidu title is in too many castes

velama
kamma
reddy
kapu
yadav
boya
gavara
SCs

infact you can find same surname in different castes

for example :-( I've found some )

boyina

settibalija(EG)
kamma(ongole)
yadav(krishna)

kamineni devineni muddineni kammineni(all surnames in different castes)

kamma(guntur)
kapu(guntur)
reddy(seema)
yadav(seema)

of course there are numerous examples. these are just for example

same system was continued during kakatiyas. yugandharudu was a chief military officer in kakatiya army was an SC by birth.

kannamaneedu(naidu) , son of brahmanaidu was an SC by birth but adopted by brahmanaidu.



initially Bs changed their titles from vajjha, mantri, amatya and got fancy titles raya, rao and panth (later added 'lu' as a respect) from karnataka and maharshtra

later when our land was invaded by karnataka kings in seema areas and maharashtra kings in telangana, fancy title rayalu , rao came to the telugu land. local armies lo ee titles icharu(initially velamas got these titles) later distribution of powers lo different castes add chesaru. hyderabad lo raos ante still velamas ne choopistaru.
kings whenever they go for kavigoshtis in those kingdoms.
 

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Posted on Thursday, August 30, 2018 - 06:53 am:       


Nyk:

many of todays castes existed before 1200AD.


Read two books
1.palnati veera charitra
2. katamaraju charitra

brahmanaidu and katamaraju, both were revered by srinatha kavi for their heroic and fierceful courage and administering social relations in their respective kingdoms.

although brahmanaidu was not king, the kings of palanadu were like chandragupta in mudrarakshasam. hold was in brahmanaidu and nagamma hands



palanati rajyamlo rendu concepts


1. chaapakoodu - (this ritual still continues in karyamapudi alias karempudi in guntur)

2. pangyam- this was the one which was root cause for the titles like rao, naidu, panthulu etc existing in different castes.

this was the one which made Bs to shed their titles like vajjha, mantri, amatya and put Rao in their title

same as above velamas shed their original naidu title and became raos.

kamma caste was there before brahmanaidu regime.


the satisahagamanam ritual of katamarajus mother indicates the existence of many castes before 1200 AD




kannamaneedu , son of brahmanaidu was an SC by birth but adopted by brahmanaidu. balachandrudu was original one.

katama raju had an SC brother adopted by his reddy mother.

native telugaites were socially forward in thinking always.
 

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Posted on Thursday, August 30, 2018 - 06:34 am:       


Nyk:

2. pangyam- this was the one which was root cause for the titles like rao, naidu, panthulu etc existing in different castes.

this was the one which made Bs to shed their titles like vajjha, mantri, amatya and put Rao in their title

same as above velamas shed their original naidu title and became raos.


vinteresting..more details plz
http://i.imgur.com/eUYcc.gif
 

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Posted on Thursday, August 30, 2018 - 06:29 am:       


Ballasticmissile:

Is there any history of any caste before 1200 AD ....??

If there is any mention of it in any inscriptions , then please enlighten me.




many of todays castes existed before 1200AD.


Read two books
1.palnati veera charitra
2. katamaraju charitra

brahmanaidu and katamaraju, both were revered by srinatha kavi for their heroic and fierceful courage and administering social relations in their respective kingdoms.

although brahmanaidu was not king, the kings of palanadu were like chandragupta in mudrarakshasam. hold was in brahmanaidu and nagamma hands



palanati rajyamlo rendu concepts


1. chaapakoodu - (this ritual still continues in karyamapudi alias karempudi in guntur)

2. pangyam- this was the one which was root cause for the titles like rao, naidu, panthulu etc existing in different castes.

this was the one which made Bs to shed their titles like vajjha, mantri, amatya and put Rao in their title

same as above velamas shed their original naidu title and became raos.

kamma caste was there before brahmanaidu regime.


the satisahagamanam ritual of katamarajus mother indicates the existence of many castes before 1200 AD
 

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Posted on Thursday, August 30, 2018 - 12:14 am:       


Guriginja:



True, there is a book called Reddy rajula charitra by soma Sekhar Sharma...though very short a good introduction...try to read it once..
Inti lopaley kulam, gadapa daatithey manamantha Hinduvulam...
 

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Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2018 - 11:24 pm:       


Raman:

according to history vemana is a reddy 9th century anukunta kada eeyana




13th and 14th century, but pothuluri brahamam garu some where between 9-11 century antar...and garimireddy acchamma is the one who gives him shelter.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2018 - 11:04 pm:       

uuhajanithaalu, uncertainity lekunda history lo rasina books lo...oka srinadhudu, oka yerrana, oka pothana modalagu vaaru chesina rachanalo clearly establised histoy on records vunna great leader/ king Prolaya Vema Reddy, krishadevarayula kalam lo cheppukune kalaa poshana..maha mahulayina brahmanotthamulu..hindu matha parirakshana/ uddharana/vyapthi...srisailam, ahobilam lanti temples nirmanam/ development etc tho adiripoye story Prolaya Vema Reddy dhi..but aa katha base chesukoni okka cinema kudaraakapovadam kadu sochaneeyam....
 

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Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2018 - 08:04 pm:       


New_user:

War tharvatha, intlo adavalla ki ghosha system maintain cheyyali ane vallu, Velama lu ga undipoyaru. Ala cheyyamu ani kamma (branch) meeda rasi ichcina vallu, kammalu ayyaru


. Sure aa idi ? Naaku telisi mana grand parents generation lo gosha vundi
 

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Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2018 - 04:29 pm:       


Rajusk:

the cassette of the Robot


lol...
Chitti nayudu
Chitti reddy
Chitti rao...
Appudu rajani shivaji reddy rao gaikwad ga inka movies teesta untadu
sachipotava , avineethi ga batukutava okkate option ante alochinchakunda chachipotaa ane type cbn - OT
 

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Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2018 - 04:22 pm:       


Siloan:

ekkada chadivad e shtori


huge collection of books and reading helps.
In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day
 

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Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2018 - 03:20 pm:       

NAA fost ki single esina mahaanbavudu evaru,endukalaga...
Inti lopaley kulam, gadapa daatithey manamantha Hinduvulam...
 

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Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2018 - 03:16 pm:       


Siloan:

ekkada chadivad e shtori




you are asking history book about history..

MS kurrod and OkyHyd walking History books..
 

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Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2018 - 02:58 pm:       


Mental_sachinodu:



True, many bees were slaughtered in 1565
after battle of tallikota along with velama and kammas....bees especially vaishnavites were slaughtered in day light along with kammas and velama who were chief warriors of Aliya Rama Raya...
That's why you see less population of velama,kammas and Vaishnav bees compared to other folks...pemmasani clan was almost killed brutally in 1565 ..
Dear velama,kammas,bees and R's let's intermingle and restore our glory...
Inti lopaley kulam, gadapa daatithey manamantha Hinduvulam...
 

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Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2018 - 02:57 pm:       


Mental_sachinodu:

kshatriya




my excel updated vunkl
 

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Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2018 - 02:56 pm:       


Mental_sachinodu:



ekkada chadivad e shtori
 

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Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2018 - 02:42 pm:       

lol... almost all cassetes we hear today existed prior to 1200 AM. you dont have to look alot ... just read about palanati Yudham which happend right before 1200. ... you will encounter many "known" cassetes

1) Alugu Raju/AnuguRaju - Raju caste - kshatriya - although a migrant to andhra region, he is married into a "Raju" family.
2) Brahmanaidu - velama
3) Dodda Nayudu(Brother of brahmanaidu) - Velama
4) kannama nayudu - adopted son of brahmanaidu - mala
5) Peddana raju - son of dodda nayudu - adopted son of Alugu raju - born velama, brought up as "raju" but eventually gets in trouble because of caste. he gets married into Raju family, but later gets revelaed that he is velama and wages wars with many raju families who were pissed off with his original caste.
6) Nagamma Reddy - antagonist or anti-brahmanaidu lady - who triggers the war - Reddy - also treated equals to Raju caste
7) battle at Mandadi - where brahmanaidu was living in exile near devarakonda - Nagamma sends "Boya" warriors

in the actual battle, you can find more prominent castes.. but mostly kshatriya castes... Pericchedi. pusapati rajus who built vijayawada and so on...

havent thought about this in long time.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2018 - 03:40 pm:       


Rajusk:

you cassette vater..

we will be discussing about the cassette of the Robot ..you know..changing with times :D




lol chesina chestharu blood lo caste sorry cables lo caste vuntadi
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2018 - 03:37 pm:       


Tombrady:

telugites- caste disco

rest of the world- black hole,AI,robotics disco




you cassette vater..

we will be discussing about the cassette of the Robot ..you know..changing with times :D
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2018 - 03:36 pm:       

Kakatiyas and Palanadu vamshastulu are more or less samakalikulu - both of them are remnants of the once powerful chalukyas - more or less intermigled on all sides. prataparudra see's a chance to exploit the infighting amongst the lords in palanadu and helps nagamma - once the area is weakened he expands his kingdom.
In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2018 - 03:35 pm:       

year 2060-


telugites- caste disco

rest of the world- black hole,AI,robotics disco
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2018 - 03:30 pm:       

lol
In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2018 - 03:08 pm:       

gaat it.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2018 - 03:00 pm:       

Velama anedi root, eppati nundo undi. Dannundi split ayyi, kamma vachchindi.

War tharvatha, intlo adavalla ki ghosha system maintain cheyyali ane vallu, Velama lu ga undipoyaru. Ala cheyyamu ani kamma (branch) meeda rasi ichcina vallu, kammalu ayyaru.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2018 - 02:57 pm:       

My friend says he is pedda kamma, ante chinna kamma undannamata. enti dipperence? //

Pedakamma ante 30 or so intiperlu unnavallu - Pemmasani, Vasireddi, Sayapaneni, Mikkilineni etc. Krishna devarayal army lo top posts lo unnavallu, Gandikota rulers etc. Chinakamma ante agriculture vallu.

Famous ante superstar Krishna - 1700s lo gandikota lo odipoyaka, Burripalem lo settle ayina 7th generation person

https://youtu.be/KCtPkNfoDZo?t=1226
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2018 - 02:53 pm:       


New_user:



ante palnadu time ki velamas ela vundevoru ani adugutunna if it happend b4 kakatiyas
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2018 - 02:52 pm:       


New_user:

Palanadu war betwwen Velama dayadulu



New_user:

Palnadu war long before Kakatiya



Siloan:

after kakatiya war taruvathe kada velamas-kammas divided


 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2018 - 02:50 pm:       

after kakatiya war taruvathe kada velamas-kammas divided then how come before //

Palanadu war betwwen Velama dayadulu. Nagamma minister. Kamma prastavana akkada ledu anukuntunna.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2018 - 02:43 pm:       

Also just curiosity koddin aduguthunna.

My friend says he is pedda kamma, ante chinna kamma undannamata. enti dipperence?

Any celebrities from these?
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2018 - 02:37 pm:       


New_user:

Palnadu war long before Kakatiya / Gona Gannareddy.



after kakatiya war taruvathe kada velamas-kammas divided then how come before
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2018 - 02:21 pm:       

Palnadu war long before Kakatiya / Gona Gannareddy.

Palnadu lo local peasants reddies. Shivites. Sampradaya vadulu. Nimna kula la ni thakkuva ga chuse vallu.

Brahma Naidu (velama) and co - migrants, reformist vaishnavites. Veellu chapa koodu etc ani lower classes ni daggara thiyyadam tho aggi rajukundi.

Nagamma - reddy lady. rest of the story andariki telisinde.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2018 - 11:39 am:       

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reddy_dynasty
eyana undu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gona_Ganna_Reddy
gona budhareddy inkodu
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2018 - 11:38 am:       


Dma:




Kakatiyas history lo there’s mention of castes ....

There’s mention of telaga, map, gani, golla etc....I read it.
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Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2018 - 11:37 am:       

sorry 17th century vemana anta nenu wrong
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2018 - 11:37 am:       

according to history vemana is a reddy 9th century anukunta kada eeyana
telugu caste mo mixing
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2018 - 11:35 am:       


Ballasticmissile:

Ok let me ask you a simple question

Is there any history of any caste before 1200 AD ....??

If there is any mention of it in any inscriptions , then please enlighten me.




1200 AD tarvata ekkada vundi?
Jai Andhra!! Jai Jai Andhra!!!
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2018 - 06:56 am:       


Ballasticmissile:




I’m talking about Telugu casatte son which we fight in dB everyday.
Capacity vundi, laziness, and uninspired life is a waste of time.
YOLO kada....
But experiences is how you bring meaning to life. Worthiness should be earned with adequate efforts.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2018 - 06:53 am:       

Ok let me ask you a simple question

Is there any history of any caste before 1200 AD ....??

If there is any mention of it in any inscriptions , then please enlighten me.
Capacity vundi, laziness, and uninspired life is a waste of time.
YOLO kada....
But experiences is how you bring meaning to life. Worthiness should be earned with adequate efforts.

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