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Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2018 - 08:28 pm:       


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Openers are back jn hut less than 5 overs, whats the worst that can happen. Oka wuick fire 30 kodithey anderson rythm loki set avvakunda all set
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2018 - 08:17 pm:       


Guru:

Pandy ni opening panpinchali and start hutting from one side



oka zamana lo, Ian Botham and Kapil Dev chesinatlaa?
but the test pitches in England are difficult to bat in the initial overs, especially with Anderson and Curran or whatever his name
CCDB - Caste Chemchas Discussion Baavi
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2018 - 07:05 pm:       


Guru:





Ashemwin and Pandya open
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2018 - 06:38 pm:       

Pandy ni opening panpinchali and start hutting from one side
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2018 - 06:33 pm:       


Moviebuff001:

Poni ee series ki Shastri to jiddu aadiddama.





Idhi best idea.


Lol
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2018 - 06:16 pm:       

Ee vihari bihari bilahari batch anta waste. I dont think they will succeed at international level. Ipl lo struggle iyyad. Shreyas Iyer can be groomed.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2018 - 05:07 pm:       

na chinnappati nundi ide tanthu.. green top ante chaalu kaaripothundi prathiokadiki barring one or two.. em chesukodaniki ee rankings
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2018 - 04:39 pm:       


Rebel:

batting should be sent in reverse order...openers come last.



LOL. Poni ee series ki Shastri to jiddu aadiddama... First 20 overs... :D
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Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2018 - 03:00 pm:       

batting should be sent in reverse order...openers come last.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2018 - 02:55 pm:       


Rajusk:

added him to the list No






Add Shreyas Iyer to this as potential in future. Havent seen his longer format skills anywhere so far.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2018 - 02:05 pm:       


Rajusk:

green top + cloudy sky unte..malli dance baby dance ae gaa..manollaki



Kaneesam SA lo aadinattu kooda adaledu last match. Hope they still have some reserves in mind and matter. Resolve kanapadaledu.
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Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2018 - 01:43 pm:       


Moviebuff001:

Woakes won't be a factor in bowling if the pitch is dry. Konchem green unna, Anderson and Broad will finish the game.




Anderson
Broad
Curran
Stokes
Woakes

green top + cloudy sky unte..malli dance baby dance ae gaa..manollaki :-(
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2018 - 01:34 pm:       


Rajusk:

ippudu both Stokes and Woakes will play..



Woakes won't be a factor in bowling if the pitch is dry. Konchem green unna, Anderson and Broad will finish the game.
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Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2018 - 01:31 pm:       


Guru:

Mana bottom five can score more than top 5 barring kohli




Bhuvaneswar kurrod team lo ki vasthe..for sure gaa cheppochu..Bhuvi/Ashwin will top Indian Batting averages (non-Kohli)
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2018 - 01:19 pm:       


Rajusk:




Mana bottom five can score more than top 5 barring kohli
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2018 - 11:58 am:       


Film_fan:




Dead sheep

Ben Stokes has been added to England's 13-man squad for the third Test against India at Trent Bridge, which gets underway on Saturday, after being found not guilty of affray at Bristol Crown Court.

Joe Root (capt), Alastair Cook, Keaton Jennings, Ollie Pope, Jonny Bairstow (wk), Jos Buttler, Chris Woakes, Sam Curran, Stuart Broad, James Anderson, , Ben Stokes.


ippudu both Stokes and Woakes will play..

English bottom half chaalu mana score kottadaniki ...:-(
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2018 - 08:59 am:       


Lsk_sai:

Mana Hanuma Vihari meedha oka look veyyandi...
Present ayithe mayank, prithvi,vihari,siraj veellu Baaga perform chesthunnaru



Ringo_rangaswamy:

maa abbai hanuma Vihari consistent ga aadutunnadu for A team...have a look at him ya





Rajusk:

layers in waiting ..with good domestic records ante..Prithvi Shaw, Mayank Agarwal, Pant, Shreyas Iyer(not this year though), Hanuma Vihari and Mohammed Siraj..




added him to the list No
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2018 - 08:44 am:       

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/series/62287.html
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Look at this schedule.....

they played up and down the country and kept tests in between....inf act last match of the trip is also a tour match....

you respect the war you are getting into.....
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
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Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2018 - 08:38 am:       

Sachin and Gangad iddar London lo ne unnar. Remaining tests ki pilipisthey they will score more in innnings than our middle order did in first two tests lol
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2018 - 03:07 am:       


Rajusk:



Mana Hanuma Vihari meedha oka look veyyandi...
Present ayithe mayank, prithvi,vihari,siraj veellu Baaga perform chesthunnaru
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 08:56 pm:       


Onlytruth:

outside subcontinent pitches meeda eppudu aadareheii.. edhava gola


 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 08:31 pm:       


Rajusk:

Kannada kanteerva Mayank Agarwal ki chance ivvali ..i prefer him over Prithwi Shah..for now..


maa abbai hanuma Vihari consistent ga aadutunnadu for A team...have a look at him ya
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 07:54 pm:       

outside subcontinent pitches meeda eppudu aadareheii.. edhava gola
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 04:10 pm:       


Cheenu:

Good thing if India loses this series and Australia will be That Sashtri will be sacked.






Sastri Indian coaching job Gavaskar ki subcontracting cheyyaledu ante chaala haachcharyam gaa undi!!!
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 02:57 pm:       

Only 2 reasons

Last match aithe weather did not help when we were batting.
Last 2 series aithe less match practice ( where are the practice matches. How do people expect to perform when they cannot accustomed to the alien conditions)

No a positive note. Good thing if India loses this series and Australia will be That Sashtri will be sacked.
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 02:48 pm:       

Honeymoon ki velinatu velthe saripotundhi endhuku antha kashtapadtharu ellagu whitewash
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 12:49 pm:       


Ringo_rangaswamy:

So England is attacking the stumps and we are unable to negotiate the inswingers more than how we are able to play outswingers.




This is exactly what Kohli meant - instead of 'thinking' what Ball can/will do, just see what the ball 'is' doing and play on it's merit.

They were expecting every ball to be an outswinger
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 12:49 pm:       


Ringo_rangaswamy:

. But now, we cant play incoming ball - 11 dismissals in 2nd test are LBWs+Clean bowled. So England is attacking the stumps and we are unable to negotiate the inswingers




daaniki thodu aa dikkumalina slope in Lords anta..that helps inswingers ani rasaru..

which means..for just that ground..vere trap undi..for batsmen..repeat visitors from 2014 tour..should know this by now..
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 12:43 pm:       


Rajusk:

venjoy and re-live those moments:

https://www.ecb.co.uk/matches/6810#scorecard-videos





Already soostini. Some stats on types of dismissals


Keeper/Slip cordon catches :

First test - Keeper/Slip cordon - 11/20
Second test - - 6/20

LBWs
First Test - 6
Second Test - 7

Clean bowled
First Test - 3
Second Test - 4



This tells me we are getting better at negotiating ball outside off. But now, we cant play incoming ball - 11 dismissals in 2nd test are LBWs+Clean bowled. So England is attacking the stumps and we are unable to negotiate the inswingers more than how we are able to play outswingers.
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 12:42 pm:       


Raman:

but team declared only after toss aa? in case of delay .. if do tupuk on team management ..




Team mundu gane decide avutundi ga, they inform players in advance, atleast a day before. Aa morning changes cheyyaru, that will demoralize the players. heavy rain expect cheyaledemo?
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 12:19 pm:       


Ringo_rangaswamy:

of course konni 5th and 6th stump balls kooda baaga aadaru ..Rahul and Rahane




venjoy and re-live those moments:

https://www.ecb.co.uk/matches/6810#scorecard-videos
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 12:15 pm:       


Rajusk:

of course konni 5th and 6th stump balls kooda baaga aadaru ..Rahul and Rahane





 

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Ringo_rangaswamy:

Off and outside off ki manollu straight bat ye aadaaaru.



of course konni 5th and 6th stump balls kooda baaga aadaru ..Rahul and Rahane :D
 

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Ringo_rangaswamy:

Most cross bat were when pitched on leg and middle - batsman trying to play to midwicket. But ball swings out too much causing issues.


Off and outside off ki manollu straight bat ye aadaaaru.

I feel its more foot work and unable to read the swing amount. James Anderson gaadu grip tho confuse chestadu, ball feels like will come in but goes out (not reverse swing).




completely agree..ade nenu kooda chepthundi...they underestimated the amount of swing..and started playing like in India/Aus/SA..
 

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Ringo_rangaswamy:

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/batting/most _runs_career.html?id=12014;type=tournament




Vijay kurrod Australia lo kooda fail aithe..bye bye cheppochu..he will be 35 by then..

Kannada kanteerva Mayank Agarwal ki chance ivvali ..i prefer him over Prithwi Shah..for now..
 

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Rajusk:

all of them were playing across the line to incoming balls..in swinging conditions and missing the line..because they are bat was across and not straight..





Most cross bat were when pitched on leg and middle - batsman trying to play to midwicket. But ball swings out too much causing issues.


Off and outside off ki manollu straight bat ye aadaaaru.

I feel its more foot work and unable to read the swing amount. James Anderson gaadu grip tho confuse chestadu, ball feels like will come in but goes out (not reverse swing).
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 11:53 am:       


Rajusk:






Wassim Jaffer and Gautam Gambhir


http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/batting/most _runs_career.html?id=12014;type=tournament


 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 11:53 am:       


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Also...As Gavaskar commented...Our preparation for this series and even the SA series was shit.




Duke balls teesukoni..Team antha Dharmasala velli..

swing zara ani song paadukontu akkada practice cheyyali..else..moosukoni tour matches aadali..

they get local bowlers etc for practice sessions..but that is no way a match for the quality that they face in tests..daanikante better play some proper county team..
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 11:49 am:       


Raman:

but team declared only after toss aa?




9.42am Hello everybody. A very warm welcome to all of you for the second day..


10.32am Toss time. Joe Root has won the toss and England are bowling first. Woakes replaces Ben Stokes for England, and Cheteshwar Pujara and Kuldeep Yadav come in for Shikhar Dhawan and Umesh Yadav

"Looks like a fresh surface, and with the weather around, might just serve us well to bowl first," says England captain Joe Root. "Gives us a great chance to get some wickets and gets ourselves ahead in the game."

"We would have bowled first as well. There's a bit of weather around over the next few days," says Kohli. "But it's a hard pitch, looks dry, and everyone looks like they can be in. The guys are confident, they are playing well.. Just about getting the mental side of things right. We've brought back Pujara. KL moves up in place of Shikhar Dhawan. And Kuldeep comes in for Umesh Yadav."
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 11:48 am:       


Rajusk:

Speaker saab ni adagandi..looks like he has some players in mind




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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 11:47 am:       


Rajusk:


i saw an article d form lachuku asking indian team to have both spinners for lords match
 

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Moviebuff001:

Bigger problem is that we seem to rotate the same 6 or 7 players in different batting roles. And none of them are grabbing opportunities overseas (SA, Eng in particular).




unless we have super stars who have shined in A team tours..we will probably see this team until end of the year..when we tour Australia..

akkada kooda assam aithe ..we might see big changes coming in..

players in waiting ..with good domestic records ante..Prithvi Shaw, Mayank Agarwal, Pant, Shreyas Iyer(not this year though), Hanuma Vihari and Mohammed Siraj..

inka evaraina young players nenu miss ayyi unte ...Speaker saab ni adagandi..looks like he has some players in mind
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 11:44 am:       


Rajusk:

Toss 2nd day vesaru..after they lost a day to rain


but team declared only after toss aa? in case of delay .. if do tupuk on team management ..
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 11:42 am:       


Raman:

varsham expect cheyyaledemo




Toss 2nd day vesaru..after they lost a day to rain :D
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 11:41 am:       


Rajusk:

too many things that went wrong at Lords..

selecting two spinners..when 1 day was already lost due to rain and forecast was cloudy..for at least 2 of the 4 remaining days is straight forward mettapalem telivithetalu by team management (Rahane said it is Kohli and Shastri who decided that


varsham expect cheyyaledemo
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 11:41 am:       

Bigger problem is that we seem to rotate the same 6 or 7 players in different batting roles. And none of them are grabbing opportunities overseas (SA, Eng in particular).
Where is the resolve? Total lack of resolve in the last match is concerning if not alarming.
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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 11:38 am:       


Raman:

win the toss kohli andaru muskuntaru




too many things that went wrong at Lords..

selecting two spinners..when 1 day was already lost due to rain and forecast was cloudy..for at least 2 of the 4 remaining days is straight forward mettapalem telivithetalu by team management (Rahane said it is Kohli and Shastri who decided that)

once taken the decision..not bowling enough the "attacking option", meaning 6 out of 70 overs is even bad..

Gavaskar thaatha cheppinattu..moosukoni 6 batsman aadinchadam better..3 seamers and one Ashwin..
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 11:36 am:       

Also...As Gavaskar commented...Our preparation for this series and even the SA series was shit.

Only Pujara played some counties and the rest of the Team didn't even play a few competitive games...

They also had the audacity to take a break for training before the Test!

Learning frm SA and past experiences, what was stopping our Team to fly in atleast a couple of weeks early and try to play as many practice matches as possible?

Worst part is knowing our Batsmen like Vijay/Rahul/Pujara/Rahaney have the technique and class.....but still are failing due to their temperament at present.
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 11:32 am:       


Ringo_rangaswamy:

Is there a general pressure on batsman to increase scoring rate!! I dont know, but I think so.




if you look at Dismissals of Kohli 2nd innings first test.. Rahul 2nd innings 2nd test...Pujara 2nd innings 2nd test..

all of them were playing across the line to incoming balls..in swinging conditions and missing the line..because they are bat was across and not straight..

not that they are not good at it..but it is a low percentage shot given the situation..
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 11:32 am:       

win the toss kohli andaru muskuntaru
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 11:31 am:       

England Swinging Conditions are a nightmare to survive...let alone score quick runs...

Kohli never emphasized on runrate in Overseas conditions....Pujara has all the time to bat at 10 strike rate and keep a wicket intact at one end...

No point blaming Kohli when his batsmen are failing collectively....Plain and Simple.

Test Matches gives every batsman all the time in the world to adjust, adapt or refine his technique. Why wud there be pressure of they perform in the opportunities given?

At present, Our batsmen aren't good enough in Overseas conditions bar Kohli.

Better give them an assured place this series and take a final call after which it is better to groom technically sound youngsters.

Though not young anymore....Always thought Rayudu wud make a good Test batsman for Overseas. He always had a strong technique. But politics still keep him out of T20 squad....forget Tests.
 

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Rajusk:

At No.3, Cheteshwar Pujara has gone past 20 just twice in eight innings.

Vijay last 10 innings(overseas) total - 128

ee link choodandi..story ardham avuthundi --> http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/24362830/virat-kohli- alone-averaging-more-20







Kohli gaadi marriage ayyinappati nunchi team performance down. Enti ee maaya!!!



Pelli Dec 2017. Appati nunchi SA series and Eng series lo phattt.


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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 11:07 am:       


Ringo_rangaswamy:

Vijay, Pujara, Rahane and Rahul all are top material for tests in any conditions




At No.3, Cheteshwar Pujara has gone past 20 just twice in eight innings.

Vijay last 10 innings(overseas) total - 128

ee link choodandi..story ardham avuthundi --> http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/24362830/virat-kohli- alone-averaging-more-20
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 10:55 am:       


Ringo_rangaswamy:

Leaving the ball was how Vijay built his innings and transferred the pressure back onto the new-ball bowlers in his best years.






"Leaving the ball was how Vijay built his innings and transferred the pressure back onto the new-ball bowlers in his best years."



Why kurrod attempting to score faster!! Just like Pujara? Is there a general pressure on batsman to increase scoring rate!! I dont know, but I think so.

So batsman are batting out of their natural style to score faster ani naa doubt. Hence they are getting our poking bad balls.

(This is not the only reason for failure, of course)
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 10:51 am:       


Film_fan:





Even Gavaskar is also good. Any senior successful batsman at this level and in this conditions can help.


Team management should take their help
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 10:42 am:       

BCCI should fly in Rahul Dravid or VVS Laxman to be with the team for the next 3 tests and help the batsmen sort it out.
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ok...but when you have the best of all....Mr Gavaskar....why are they not using him is a shock....no one knows more than him about staying, surviving and then scoring......

Dravid is too good too.....but he is doing great job....preparing next gen for India......the real unsung hero of indian cricket.....
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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 10:40 am:       

this squad can play well on bouncing and seaming wickets..so Australia and South Africa we are OK for now..
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agree for me.....they played well against Morne and Philander ani anukuntunna....bounce....overall ga baganey aduthunnaru....


lords test lo swing matram....too much ayyindhi.....just too much to handle.....
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 10:39 am:       


Ringo_rangaswamy:

Vijay cannot seem to figure out whether he wants to bat defensively




While Shikhar Dhawan and KL Rahul have been switched around at the top, perhaps the biggest disappointment has been M Vijay, India's leading run-getter on the 2014 tour of England. He has six single-digit scores in 10 innings.
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 10:36 am:       


Film_fan:

Pant who is with the team thappa.....naaku evvaroo kanipinchatam ledhu long format ki...



Samson -- Tests doubt
sundar -- Tests doubt





None of these have a high success in Ranji circuit, AFAIK. T20 IPL lo performance choosi, England lo test match antay...


Current team is good... just that they are unable to find their rhythm...

Vijay, Pujara, Rahane and Rahul all are top material for tests in any conditions. They are not flat track bullies in subcontinent. They have technique and class.


BCCI should fly in Rahul Dravid or VVS Laxman to be with the team for the next 3 tests and help the batsmen sort it out.
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 10:33 am:       


Happydays:

Only format in Sports when there is no world championship.




starting next year..kiki
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 10:27 am:       


Film_fan:

Virat gaadi back pain issue endho




5 days lo kurrod recover avvali..

but if there are swinging conditions there too..

our hopes are on English Slip fielders..than our batting skills
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 10:25 am:       


Film_fan:

we start playing cricket it is cloudy and swinging conditions.....




looking at the last 3 tours to England..i think we can conclude..that we will not be playing well in England anytime soon :-(

that is the new reality and we have to live with it..that England lo win anedi rakapovachu..

this squad can play well on bouncing and seaming wickets..so Australia and South Africa we are OK for now..
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 10:22 am:       

Pant who is with the team thappa.....naaku evvaroo kanipinchatam ledhu long format ki...



Samson -- Tests doubt
sundar -- Tests doubt


we would have used Mohhammed siraj in place of Umesh......who was doing well....but again....bowling has not been that bad.....compared to batting...


this team will fight anukuntunna....next test....win is very tough.....but fight.....as they are dented in pride...more than anything else.....

Virat gaadi back pain issue endho....and Trentbridge lo England are formiddable...they rarely loose there anta..
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 10:17 am:       


Speaker:

give a chance to Youngster's




edi oka naluguru perlu vadalandi
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 10:08 am:       

Team oo 300 chesi odipoothe analysis cheyyocchu.

WE do not have any footwork on seam bowling. They cannot defend. They cannot wait for the bad ball.

All in all, it is good thing happened for cricket. Kohli Kohli ani leputunnaru kaani.. asalu candi ki antha scene ledu.. he has to grow a lot
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 09:57 am:       

we came late to england If we have 5 test matches on mind.....ofcourse...our schedule is pretty full as IPL occupies a window....

then.... you play 5 tests in six weeks with no tour matches in between or prior....

15 days rest after ODI/T20's and one tour match reduced from 4 days to 3 days they said....

too harsh to pile on the team but.....scheduling also didnt work out....and beleive me....3 months of sun, almoust drought situation and hose pipe bans and we start playing cricket it is cloudy and swinging conditions.....

looking back....what a chance that was to win the first test....we were close and england were not that dominating....but then.....it turned....
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 09:52 am:       


Film_fan:

yesterday post match...Virat was combative and stright answering his questions....

he was asked...has the contidions to blame for you teams batting?

he said:

we cannot thnk about all those things...we just have to bat....


not picking on him....but....its exactly the opposite you should do.....you adjust according to the conditions where you are playing....england is a special place or awakward place the way you see it.....so you need to adjust.....to the conditions



The emphasis has been to not worry about things that you can't control like weather, pitches, opponent bowlers but concentrate on skills and be prepared for all conditions.
Which is what, Vijay is saying too.
My beef with this team management is only with lack of planning for practice matches. Match time cannot be simulated in net practice.
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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 09:16 am:       


Film_fan:

Rahaney....may look composed....and virat may seem aggresive.....but the ability levels and match winning capabilites are much wider.....

Vengsarkar.....was more composed and calm......but as a captain...swarry.....Ganguly acted as he was pissed off with sun and moon too....but he deilvered....


Kohli is by far a superb batsaman on this planet....right now....and as a captain.....he did well too.....

107 all out doesnt leave any captains.....many options......

my view....




Exactly - this is how we kill all the captains, we analyze each and every thing, one bad loss, we are out to get their heads. When you are batting it's in your hands, what Kohli suggested is, do not clutter your mind and play your game, what else can he say? We have so many analysts sitting in studios and offer their 'valuable' opinions, one guy says, change the lineup and other says don't change, you can't satisfy everyone.

And hear we are asking Rahane as Captain, he can't even play the laterally moving ball.
 

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Film_fan:

Kohli is by far a superb batsaman on this planet....right now....and as a captain.....he did well too.....





Kohli is no doubt a good captain and team-person. Just his excessive runrate is breaking the natural style of the players.... I peel.
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 09:07 am:       

Rahaney....may look composed....and virat may seem aggresive.....but the ability levels and match winning capabilites are much wider.....

Vengsarkar.....was more composed and calm......but as a captain...swarry.....Ganguly acted as he was pissed off with sun and moon too....but he deilvered....


Kohli is by far a superb batsaman on this planet....right now....and as a captain.....he did well too.....

107 all out doesnt leave any captains.....many options......

my view....
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 09:05 am:       


Termi:

next match ki Kohli lekunte ela aadataro chudali..I guess Rahane might lead the team better than him..





I am guessing that they will play better :-)
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 08:57 am:       


Cbcbob:




rahaane, murali, pujaara, dinesh karthik gaallu jaaaga bokka Team India Lo...

should get much better one's & give a chance to Youngster's

eeee kukkedupu ravi shastri gaaadini feeki denki...Kumble/Dravid ni coach ga seyyaali..

kohli gaadu kothi thoka ni cut seyyaaali naaayaldi...
You are Either with Us or NOT with Us..
My Way or Highway.......
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 08:47 am:       


Termi:

I guess Rahane might lead the team better than him..




Any day...far more composed and balanced without shenanigans.
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 08:35 am:       

next match ki Kohli lekunte ela aadataro chudali..I guess Rahane might lead the team better than him..
Hardcore Prabhas raju fan
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 08:29 am:       

yesterday post match...Virat was combative and stright answering his questions....

he was asked...has the contidions to blame for you teams batting?

he said:

we cannot thnk about all those things...we just have to bat....


not picking on him....but....its exactly the opposite you should do.....you adjust according to the conditions where you are playing....england is a special place or awakward place the way you see it.....so you need to adjust.....to the conditions

easier said than done..i know....but saying that....we play our natural game is a bit surprising....no...you dont....you are touring....play is different here.....


Joe root as asked same question?

did you have advantage of the conditions....

and he says...yes....we had...and we had to make sure we use them.....


when visting teams come prepared (but still struggle) playing in our dust bowls......against spin.......we face the music when we tour...

this team played well over the years.....england is 1/8th of the playing nations in terms of hosting......i cannot doubt the ability of youngsters....but its the experienced lot...who disappoint.....


my view....
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
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Ringo_rangaswamy:




Happydays kurrodu Rahane fans president..pulling his leg..
Hardcore Prabhas raju fan
 

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Termi:

Rahane kosam





Antay yendi meaning?
 

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Happydays:

enduku adataaro teledu.



Rahane kosam
Hardcore Prabhas raju fan
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 08:18 am:       

Test match intha scene enti..

Only format in Sports when there is no world championship.

enduku adataaro teledu.
Chiru,Veturi,SPB,Ilayaraja,Jandhyala,Vamsi,K Viswanath,Sachin,Florida,Rohit Sharma
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 08:16 am:       

I think too much emphasis on higher runrate is the single biggest problem bothering our batsman.
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 08:14 am:       

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/24363213/sans-virat-k ohli-where-india-backbone


Vijay cannot seem to figure out whether he wants to bat defensively, which used to be his strength, or push the run rate as he attempted to in South Africa. Leaving the ball was how Vijay built his innings and transferred the pressure back onto the new-ball bowlers in his best years. But that strength has diminished now and he looks uncertain.


The argument against Pujara is he slows things down, increasing the pressure on the rest of the batting order. But at Lords's, playing time was the best solution in the overcast conditions. Pujara plays to a pattern. For the first 30 runs of his innings Pujara's strike rate is 34 in England, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa while it is 44 in Asia since January 2016. Should Pujara not score at a faster clip so he can get build his confidence simultaneously and be more effective?

37 Tests as captain. It is a fair point. It is important that the team management has a clear chat with the players to figure out what is troubling them.




Summary -

Batsman need to play with freedom in mind and more ao for teat matches where techniue and temperment get tested. Our team management is unsuccessful in giving that to the batsman.


- Too much tinkering with the team
- Too much emphasis on run-rate
- Unsettling the core batting by dropping them

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