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Mental_sachinodu Megastar Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 20583 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 50.241.19.41 Rating: N/A |
what? who is shoving opnion down your throat, infact you are the one generalizing the issue. which post exactly appeared to shove something down your throat? | ||
Pols Junior Artist Username: Pols Post Number: 618 Registered: 06-2016 Posted From: 199.90.35.12 Rating: N/A |
//then why is everybody shoving their opinion down my throat// Jambal Annai, That's the Irony  When Someone has a different line of argument than what Others believe, they try to Impose their Opinions On You | ||
Pols Junior Artist Username: Pols Post Number: 617 Registered: 06-2016 Posted From: 199.90.35.12 Rating: |
See when Someone is Saying that Women May not be as Good as Men in Programming, they Might be talking about the Overall Percentage anthe Kani Naa Project lo Oka Ammayi Vundhi aa Ammayi Thurum So How can you SAy that all Women are bad at Programming ante aa Argument May Sound Silly ... When Someone Says that Indians are Intelligent, Does that Mean all 1 Billion Indians are Intelligent ??? Its Just that Most of them Or Most among the ones that they came across are Intelligent ani --- So Basically Its all about Percentages | ||
Discoveringself Comedian Username: Discoveringself Post Number: 1423 Registered: 01-2016 Posted From: 136.1.1.173 Rating: N/A |
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/08/08/school-ap-and-hono rs-classes-will-be-decided-by-skin-color-not-intelligence.ht ml holy molly....don't tell me it is true... | ||
Discoveringself Comedian Username: Discoveringself Post Number: 1421 Registered: 01-2016 Posted From: 136.1.1.171 Rating: N/A |
but you may be wrong in thinking that there will not be technically awesome girls...there are amazingly gud technical females...... %ages may be less....bcos of so many factors.....in general, why the %ages are less if they are less is a gud question....that needs proper analysis..... but stating that just bcos of gender, no one from that gender can be technically great.........may not be a gud argument.........specific people can be great........in general, we have to look at numbers and accept facts... u may be diverting the topic and putting urself in a hole......diff b/n general vs specific is the key here.... | ||
Discoveringself Comedian Username: Discoveringself Post Number: 1420 Registered: 01-2016 Posted From: 136.1.1.171 Rating: N/A |
hahaha.........that goes off as liberalism today.......a different view is almost shunned and slowly negatively depicted......everyone's talent, ability value, interest everything are just supposed to be equal and shud be agreed by all.......... expressing a view that may be by nature, we are a little different.......you will be an outcast and look at that poor guy....got fired for expressing an opinion....... | ||
Chikitha Hero Username: Chikitha Post Number: 11201 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 103.246.197.12 Rating: N/A |
system engineering side la ladies thakkuvappa.. generally ladies ni itu vaipu recruit cheyalantey chala alochistharu.. its just because they have to handle too many things in life.. kids.. home.. sometimes husband.. so apart from 8 hours in ofc rest of the time dedicate cheyaleru.. so usually fresher.. or more than 10+ yrs exp prefer chestharu.. ee 4 to 10 yrs Madhya antey bahuth kasht hotha.. technically antara.. ramp adinche pori lani chusa.. its just that they are in less numbers.. especially in India.. US sangathi thelvadu.. | ||
Andhravodu Moderator Username: Andhravodu Post Number: 12776 Registered: 07-2015 Rating: N/A |
I'm not disputing what you said or shoving my argument bedar. Just providing a societal perspective I've seen lots of bad programmers. I myself am one in my field until I worked with some great teams. Witch batch aite maybe 5 to 10% are good, rest bullcrap. But companies and society need them simply for families to function. Nyc, bayarea lo 2 incomes lekapote evadu afford cheyaledu, and that impacts companies because they lose talent | ||
Rasputin Megastar Username: Rasputin Post Number: 21446 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 104.139.86.253 Rating: N/A |
Tone it down* 01/06/2012 - 169.4; 8/1/2013 - 182; 9/23/2016 - 185.8 | ||
Rasputin Megastar Username: Rasputin Post Number: 21445 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 104.139.86.253 Rating: N/A |
thammudoo, As a fellow MCP, I am with you on most topics about women. But when it comes to coding, I kindly request you to time it down. I have seen pretty good ones in my life. I was the mentor for a few when they were fresh out of school. They were amazing. Yes, they are far fewer in number than the dumbos I had to deal with. 01/06/2012 - 169.4; 8/1/2013 - 182; 9/23/2016 - 185.8 | ||
Jambalahaart_raja Side Hero Username: Jambalahaart_raja Post Number: 8150 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 24.46.111.147 Rating: |
All I have said is that I have seen with my own eyes, and perceived with my own observations that men write better complex enterprise system code than women. Among men, I have starkly noticed Tamilians are better programmers than Telugu native folk. Observation share cheyatam koodaa tappey?? ippudu female programmers are no less ani meeru andaru antunnaaru, nenu enduku vappukovaali? nenu choodaledu. vappukokapothey nidraponivvara??? I am not shoving my opinion, then why is everybody shoving their opinion down my throat. I am taking a strong stand based solely on my experience, my observations, and thereby whatever limited wisdom that i have gained so far, and if-and-only-if I personally see anything otherwise, I am absolutely open and flexible and adaptable to change my opinion as well. "Chill Bro. I told you to let it go!!" - The Budhha. | ||
Andhravodu Moderator Username: Andhravodu Post Number: 12775 Registered: 07-2015 Rating: N/A |
every point you made is an argument for inclusion or reservations. Allow me to explain Your complex systems are bullcrap, and nothing of value is lost if they ahut down. FB has some of the most complicated computer systems but provides 0 benefit societally What does benefit though is the knowledge and experience gained and the sense of purpose given to high achievers. And if that achievers happen to be women, they arr fulfilled and will further train a new generation. knowledge is infinite, thinking that we know all is basically blind people calculating an elephant | ||
Biggboss Side Hero Username: Biggboss Post Number: 2241 Registered: 08-2017 Posted From: 73.241.241.99 Rating: N/A |
asalu endhi ee logic...convoluted code untey can't do good coding endhi...aina enterprise applications, refactoring...anni pedda maatalu enti...what's so complicated about them that women can't code? endho mee lokam | ||
Jambalahaart_raja Side Hero Username: Jambalahaart_raja Post Number: 8147 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 24.46.111.147 Rating: |
hacker rank lo complex coding challenges sunaayaasangaa solve chesaar ani job ichhi, 2 years ayyaka, familiarity vunna android app lo, beautiful code-design kalla mundara pettukuni koodaa, upcoming release complex sub-system ki convoluted code raasthaaru choodu... adi android kaavochhu, iOS kaavochhu.. back-end system kaavochhu.. aa Charlie's Angels toh pani chesina maa team andaram tala pattukune vaallam, that was only one incident... female programmers ki job seriousness takkuva, career meeda focus baane vuntadi kaani, for the most part a job is more than a hobby, and less than life-support. "Chill Bro. I told you to let it go!!" - The Budhha. | ||
Andhravodu Moderator Username: Andhravodu Post Number: 12773 Registered: 07-2015 Rating: N/A |
u didn't get me. Nobody learns complex systems without getting proper training, mentoring etc... If women are not able to do like you said, it means they are not given the opportunity and that's a shame. I know companies don't provide training to amybody now a days, but it's the old argument. Big companies become big and beg for regulations and stricter rules so that new competitors don't threaten them | ||
Moviebuff001 Side Hero Username: Moviebuff001 Post Number: 3682 Registered: 06-2013 Posted From: 76.31.114.171 Rating: N/A |
At will employment lo Google can terminate. But ee case baaga publicize ayyaka tesesanu. Could be a counteractive decision. This will be an out of the court settlement. | ||
Jambalahaart_raja Side Hero Username: Jambalahaart_raja Post Number: 8145 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 24.46.111.147 Rating: N/A |
hacker rank lo programs solve cheyagaliginantha maatranna complex enterprise scale systems coding cheseyochhu anukunte koodaa porapaate vankul. i said the same thing in one my previous posts also. In fact, i honor Tamilians as better enterprise application designers and programmers over Telugu IT folk, even among men. Some Tamil guys I have met and their code-design skills, I was mesmerized literally. I have never met a Telugu guy with such exceptional code-design skills, let alone convoluted code that I myself had to refactor and make corrections for important complex sub-projects in my Android Apps done by female programmers. "Chill Bro. I told you to let it go!!" - The Budhha. | ||
Andhravodu Moderator Username: Andhravodu Post Number: 12772 Registered: 07-2015 Rating: N/A |
vunkle, nee argument naku kanapadindi but you have to understand one thing. Assembly programmers C ni tittukunnaru, C programmers C++ ni tidataru, C++ vallu java ni tidataru. python vallu java ni tidataru, Lisp vallu annitini tidataru What you're doing is similar to that monolithic argument rather than seeing the big picture. I remember hacker rank link nuvve ichavu naaku, tell me that any semi-competent person cannot do that challenge within 30 days. Aa tarvata it's all a matter of being given the opportunity rather than being in a good old boy's club and your argument precisely is one reason why reservations etc are there. If knowledge is limited to only a few sections of society, even as big as men, that's debilitating to humanity as a whole | ||
Jambalahaart_raja Side Hero Username: Jambalahaart_raja Post Number: 8143 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 24.46.111.147 Rating: N/A |
Greater-NYC and Bay-Area lo vunnantha IT demand and complex systems, naaku naa career lo Indianapolis lo Columbus OH lo, even Arlington VA lo kanapadaledu. NYC lo Hibernate use chesinantha baagaa Indianapolis lo I was heavily disappointed, yekkada nunchi yekkadaki raavaalsi vachhindi ani, this happenned in 2008. I don't believe, rather I don't know how complex systems your team is entrusted to build, and I do not know what is your evaluation procedure, and are we both able to comprehend the same complex system and then decide who's the best solution architect for that. From all the complex systems I have personally worked / associated with off-late, in the last 6 years, not a single female developer came across as awesome. Part and parcel of my daily routine was to step into their meetings, and correct the list of Use-Cases or User-Stories, Tasks, Success and Failure Paths etc, question how did everybody forget this specific obvious scenario in the System, in the previous meeting that I could not make it to etc. You have seen great female developers, good. I have not, so I don't trust, but I am open to changing my opinion only after I meet one. "Chill Bro. I told you to let it go!!" - The Budhha. | ||
Andhravodu Moderator Username: Andhravodu Post Number: 12769 Registered: 07-2015 Rating: N/A |
already pilot role is very limited. Aeroplanes majority anta fly by wire/automated systems choosukuntayi that's the reason why seat trays should be closed, and electronics must stop during takeoff and landing | ||
Sannayi_nokkulu Hero Username: Sannayi_nokkulu Post Number: 17100 Registered: 06-2014 Posted From: 107.167.108.173 Rating: N/A |
http://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/airplanes-could-be-pilo tless-by-2025/ar-AApIPAO?li=BBnbklE V fack sachipotava , avineethi ga batukutava okkate option ante alochinchakunda chachipotaa ane type cbn - OT Power of Kamma Brahminism ( not literal caste but ideology) is Baahubali -OT | ||
Sannayi_nokkulu Hero Username: Sannayi_nokkulu Post Number: 17099 Registered: 06-2014 Posted From: 107.167.108.173 Rating: N/A |
Platy vaadu vere job kuda join ayyadu anta kada.. sachipotava , avineethi ga batukutava okkate option ante alochinchakunda chachipotaa ane type cbn - OT Power of Kamma Brahminism ( not literal caste but ideology) is Baahubali -OT | ||
Discoveringself Comedian Username: Discoveringself Post Number: 1418 Registered: 01-2016 Posted From: 50.4.210.139 Rating: N/A |
come on....discrimination? really?..........he only expressed that may be men and women are different......... no one is inferior or superior...........and if anything and I have to choose....I will always choose female of species superior to males...considering all aspects of life.......... but his freedom of speech and his views are an example of him advocating discrimination..........sounds far fetched....... all are equal before law makes sense.............but all are equal in all aspects and abilities..........I dunno.......and anecdotal doesn't prove that statement right....... may be interviews shud go away...and pure quantitative evaluations shud be employed for hiring people........dunno whether such rigid framework yields gud results... | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 18001 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.195.197.221 Rating: N/A |
Ee thread lo nenu emi anna it is likely to be discounted as my bias ...but have you thought you may have a sample issue ? Are you comparing the all/best of male and all/best of female ? So many possibilities of your observations being skewed Na tech lead ammaye - I have her designing target state architecture for a complex enterprise system - I had a college hire who patented an algorithm 9 months into her job, I gave my teAm an option to choose between a female and male desi developer in deciding who to keep and the team unanimously voted to keep the female .... we have many female architects who grew to that role starting as developers..ivanni one offs/ exceptions mee sample is representative of the world antara - Adi mee ishtam The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Hadoop Side Hero Username: Hadoop Post Number: 8357 Registered: 12-2014 Posted From: 99.104.124.142 Rating: N/A |
uncle oka saari mail check cheyi | ||
Mental_sachinodu Megastar Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 20571 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 98.230.188.25 Rating: N/A |
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Hadoop Side Hero Username: Hadoop Post Number: 8356 Registered: 12-2014 Posted From: 99.104.124.142 Rating: N/A |
rock uncle post mottam chadavale...elagu same beating around bush ani...  | ||
Jambalahaart_raja Side Hero Username: Jambalahaart_raja Post Number: 8141 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 24.46.111.147 Rating: N/A |
I am always willing to learn, change my opinions, nothing wrong with that. I am flexible, adaptable. Ivvala right ayithe repu wrong avvochhu, ivvala wrong ayithe repu right avvochhu. All I am saying is, meeru cheppey thopu thurum female enterprise coders naaku eppudu tagalledu. They know ins-and-outs of entire applications, but I have never come across a Female Software Architect, in my experience, or even on LinkedIn. Don't call that work-place politics and Architect roles are political and all other diversions. I have barely seen women developers practicing what I practice, before you start coding, make the right decisions for all possible Use-Cases, so you start right and minimize overly code-refactoring closer to the deadlines. If I see a great female coder, I will change my opinion. I have never seen one, so I think they are excellent at Communicating than Coding. Anthey. "Chill Bro. I told you to let it go!!" - The Budhha. | ||
Andhravodu Moderator Username: Andhravodu Post Number: 12737 Registered: 07-2015 Rating: N/A |
padipoyaavu, Rocket vunkle esina trap lo padipoyaavu  | ||
Hadoop Side Hero Username: Hadoop Post Number: 8355 Registered: 12-2014 Posted From: 99.104.124.142 Rating: N/A |
ori naa battayooo....exaclty opposite cheppav...Majority ladies are horrible in leadership roles(esp mid level)...any proj naa ghar kaa naa ghat gaa by putting lot of pressure on their team ..may they are good individual contributors....but not team players | ||
Hadoop Side Hero Username: Hadoop Post Number: 8354 Registered: 12-2014 Posted From: 99.104.124.142 Rating: N/A |
ee rock and guroi uncles ee type of posting lekunda undadu gaa....suffocating i think in tump era.for no reason.....good job market...markets are zooming...4 trillion added ..also additional gaa meeku kavalsina late night shows kosam fun kuda istunnadu tump thatha ...what else u need...  | ||
Mental_sachinodu Megastar Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 20569 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 98.230.188.25 Rating: N/A |
there is a problem with your logic.. but ippud dance seyyalenu... anyway, you are entitled to your opinion and hopefully you will see more than current pattern. | ||
Last_avataar Side Hero Username: Last_avataar Post Number: 9336 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 12.10.219.228 Rating: |
I agree Platy. Human intelligence is same. based on exposure and experience people excel irrespective of gender. remember women started coming out recently and their genes are infact adopting very fast for this, even though men have been there for centuries. Work escape chesi enjoy chese batch prati gender lo untundi since many women did not expose to CS previously there were less systems programmers. Intlo food and all arrangement chesetodu unte, mana men enni kaburlayina chebutaaru. Okasari 1 month total home management cheste telustundi valla badha | ||
Platypus Side Hero Username: Platypus Post Number: 6791 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 82.13.134.86 Rating: N/A |
>>Mind you, I have always stressed on the fact that Enterprise Application Coding is not the same as coding for a Student Project, or a Internship, or for that matter a Startup even. Excellent Coding skills on a Student Project will definitely not translate well for an Enterprise Application. The women programmers in my company - work on state of the art enterprise and cloud applications and products. They do a great job and are in no way inferior to the male programmers. So I don't accept your hypothesis. | ||
Jambalahaart_raja Side Hero Username: Jambalahaart_raja Post Number: 8137 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 24.46.111.147 Rating: |
You are all so learned people. Why is so hard for you to get that, Pattern Recognition is not the same as Generalization, is not the same as Stereotyping. Of course, there is a thin line that separates each of those. Unless otherwise proven wrong, I did not work with Lovelace or Marissa Mayers or Sheryl Sandberg etc. I worked with some women, and all I have noticed is that they are great at communication, but their enterprise app coding skills speak nothing. Mind you, I have always stressed on the fact that Enterprise Application Coding is not the same as coding for a Student Project, or a Internship, or for that matter a Startup even. Excellent Coding skills on a Student Project will definitely not translate well for an Enterprise Application. There is plenty of effort to put into modular designs to support scalability, extensibility, flexibility, maintainability etc, with as minimal Refactoring as possible. And I have personally never worked with anybody who could comprehend the basic idea. "Chill Bro. I told you to let it go!!" - The Budhha. | ||
Asdf Legend Username: Asdf Post Number: 30432 Registered: 12-2014 Posted From: 73.93.154.207 Rating: N/A |
can you GAify this stat. how many of them are bubbly, how many telgoo, inkaa caste vaari lekkal | ||
Platypus Side Hero Username: Platypus Post Number: 6790 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 82.13.134.86 Rating: N/A |
>>Good. First Programmer to develop first algorigthm. Marissa Meyer - Kickass programmer Maa company engineering division lo great programming talent - 50% of them women. | ||
Tadi_mattayya Junior Artist Username: Tadi_mattayya Post Number: 83 Registered: 02-2017 Posted From: 64.128.22.8 Rating: N/A |
Kaka if you open any India related topic on Yahoo and read the comments.. you will see people who have never been to India providing their strong judgement on India with stereotypical views..extrapolating that all desis are raappists and defct in open.. When I read those comments, I feel very sad that people have such an opinion about us and that it is not all true. so no generalizations pls.. | ||
Masularex Side Hero Username: Masularex Post Number: 6919 Registered: 05-2010 Posted From: 223.182.21.134 Rating: N/A |
the plural of anecdote is not data... ani oka peddayana cheppadu.. | ||
Mental_sachinodu Megastar Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 20563 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 98.230.188.25 Rating: N/A |
All the folks you know and can imagine are a negligible statistic but you have no problem extrapolating your experience to generalize across all women ever existed and would exist in future... endhoo ee logic ... | ||
Jambalahaart_raja Side Hero Username: Jambalahaart_raja Post Number: 8134 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 24.46.111.147 Rating: N/A |
pusikkina Linda Lovelace akka anukunnaa... Good. First Programmer to develop first algorigthm. I never worked with her. I can't review her code either. I am talking about people that I have personally reviewed their convoluted code, rather re-done and cleaned up their code for them. "Chill Bro. I told you to let it go!!" - The Budhha. | ||
Rasputin Megastar Username: Rasputin Post Number: 21439 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 172.58.153.211 Rating: N/A |
Sesani Odarpu Yatra, like Jagan. 01/06/2012 - 169.4; 8/1/2013 - 182; 9/23/2016 - 185.8 | ||
Platypus Side Hero Username: Platypus Post Number: 6786 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 82.13.134.86 Rating: N/A |
>>ee madhya nee posts lo bubbliness thaggipoyindhi.....assala interesting ga undatam ledh....koddiga dose penchu Endhuku? DB aada ladies andaru nannu kummuthaaru. Yedho, nenu, naa caste feeling threads, R2I threads - ivi chaalu. | ||
Pavala Megastar Username: Pavala Post Number: 27544 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 165.225.64.64 Rating: N/A |
platy annai ee madhya nee posts lo bubbliness thaggipoyindhi.....assala interesting ga undatam ledh....koddiga dose penchu Also Robo 2 will be the first ever movie to have hero on the poster but not in the movie... - Sesani | ||
Platypus Side Hero Username: Platypus Post Number: 6785 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 82.13.134.86 Rating: N/A |
>>repu mana employers theesi d'the who is respaaandibul andi? Maname... aa maathram vollu daggara pettukoni post cheyyaali. | ||
Pavala Megastar Username: Pavala Post Number: 27543 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 165.225.64.64 Rating: N/A |
ee DB lo manam kooda mana opinions post seskuntaam....repu mana employers theesi d'the who is respaaandibul andi? Also Robo 2 will be the first ever movie to have hero on the poster but not in the movie... - Sesani | ||
Platypus Side Hero Username: Platypus Post Number: 6783 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 82.13.134.86 Rating: N/A |
>> SOY to platy uncle...mee company lo stars seeing ani local talk Assalu artham kaaledhu. What is SOY? Statement of the Year? Evaru evariki chukkalu choopisthunnaaru? Maaku already ragatha paatham jarigipoyindhi kada? | ||
Platypus Side Hero Username: Platypus Post Number: 6782 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 82.13.134.86 Rating: N/A |
>>Ladies are terrible coders Ada Lovelace | ||
Lichtenberg Side Hero Username: Lichtenberg Post Number: 2512 Registered: 08-2013 Posted From: 192.76.82.87 Rating: N/A |
there are already reservations for SC/ST in parliament and various assemblies in India. SC/ST AND OBC reservations in local bodies. There are no congressional districts/senate positions reserved for blacks or any specific group (There are 'majority-minority districts' where they try not to devalue votes of blacks but that is a different concept and SCOTUS even said such gerrymandering is unconstitutional. This is similar to separate constituencies for Muslims in India before 1947) That is the difference - there are no quotas in US. This is the mistake people do when they compare affirmative action in US and reservations in India. | ||
Saarang Hero Username: Saarang Post Number: 16131 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 97.126.40.189 Rating: N/A |
SOY to platy uncle...mee company lo stars seeing ani local talk | ||
Jambalahaart_raja Side Hero Username: Jambalahaart_raja Post Number: 8131 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 24.46.111.147 Rating: |
I tend to kinda agree with the gist of that Google Employee's aavedhana. Ladies are horrible foot-soldiers but great Leaders and Captains. Ladies are terrible coders, but excellent at coordination and cooperation. Sagam mandiki nerpinchinaa coding raadu. coding ante hackerrank meeda code challenge complete chesthey saripodu. Enterprise scale applications lo layered design asalu ardham koodaa kaadu kondariki, naa personal experience toh chepthunna. They can barely visualize and/or understand a layered solution for a feature-set, and for the most part, they jump straight into solutions with their convoluted coding practices. But I have seen many ladies excel in communication. They know what to say, when to say, how to say, how to control somebody from saying shit and all. They are all awesome in that one regard for certain, but I'd never hire a girl as a programmer, i'd hire them as scrum-masters and Project Managers when I become Tech Manager. "Chill Bro. I told you to let it go!!" - The Budhha. | ||
Legend Username: Twitter Post Number: 54207 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 136.56.39.203 Rating: N/A |
//the author argues that women are underrepresented in tech not because they face bias and discrimination in the workplace, but because of inherent psychological differences between men and women. // andhulo intha lolli cheyyalsindhemundhi whatever he said make sense no | ||
Asdf Legend Username: Asdf Post Number: 30424 Registered: 12-2014 Posted From: 76.102.43.117 Rating: N/A |
How many times did we not notice offensive posts on desis directly or indirectly , in dice linkedin etc. I doubt there was ever a call on those persons to be fired. on the current topic, google is within its rights to fire him. did not read the memo, but have a bad feeling he sounds like alt right. | ||
Cool_indian Side Hero Username: Cool_indian Post Number: 3314 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 108.253.242.151 Rating: N/A |
Look at it from other side. May be he is saying women and men are not the same. So companies like google should take that into consideration as they enforce gender equality. I think the media is crucifying him unnecessary. Anyway there is a lawsuit on the way. States like CA lo, edo oka tokka lo rule untadi... | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 18000 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.195.194.155 Rating: N/A |
When the memo leaked it was no longer an internal issue .. in addition google is already under scrutiny for discrimination in salary and ignoring this would be another PR headache to manage and I wonder how many here would be advocating free speech if the same memo was about stereotypes against desis ...everyone wants freedom of speech as long as they are not the target ..,The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Andhravodu Moderator Username: Andhravodu Post Number: 12717 Registered: 07-2015 Rating: N/A |
pichai kurrodu was stuck in a rock and hard place. Ee matram urgency choopinchaka pote, company sexism to kottukuntunte vacation lo enjoy chestunnadu ani pracharam jarigedi aa dushpracharam jaragakunda fantastic response ichadu, 150+ million sampadistunnadu, aa jaab vidichi pettalani ledu | ||
Aha Side Hero Username: Aha Post Number: 4684 Registered: 01-2011 Posted From: 24.253.113.106 Rating: N/A |
That guy has freedom of speech, agreed. But, at the same time Google has its own right to dictate the company policies, especially when it comes to gender/race discrimination. But sundar vacation cancel chesukunentha scene unda ee incident ki? Extra hype isthunnaaru ee internal issue ki anipistundi. The One and Only Veturi | ||
Last_avataar Side Hero Username: Last_avataar Post Number: 9329 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 12.10.219.224 Rating: |
Freedom of Speech is only for ladies,Tulaks, Siculars , libtards Ide oka lady commenting seste emi chesotodu googgle ayya, | ||
Jambalahaart_raja Side Hero Username: Jambalahaart_raja Post Number: 8128 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 24.46.111.147 Rating: N/A |
The important lesson to learn from this fiasco. Freedom of Speech is the Biggest Lie!!! Freedom of Speech ledu, Discretion antha kannaa.. aachi toochi maatlaadataalu levv.. maatlaadukotaalu levv... noru mooskuni vunte andariki manchidi. "Chill Bro. I told you to let it go!!" - The Budhha. | ||
Last_avataar Side Hero Username: Last_avataar Post Number: 9327 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 12.10.219.224 Rating: N/A |
for a change ladies meeda kanna, religions meeda commenting seyyaslsindi racha rambol ayipoyedi atleast internal forums lo kooda, naa opinion ani, istam vochinatlu cheppadaniki veeledu, especially when it is related to co workers , thier habits, work environment etc his firing is justified | ||
Asdf Legend Username: Asdf Post Number: 30423 Registered: 12-2014 Posted From: 73.93.155.11 Rating: N/A |
desam lo reservation kosam fight chese politicians never talk about implementing it at the assembly/parliament level. ikkada diversity kosam fight chese vallu never look at their own boards. inta gelavakundaa ne racha gelavatam. | ||
Bharat Side Hero Username: Bharat Post Number: 4317 Registered: 06-2015 Posted From: 149.168.240.7 Rating: N/A |
Google is a propaganda arm of Dem party. Justice department should follow EUand slap heavy fines through anti-trust cases. | ||
Asdf Legend Username: Asdf Post Number: 30422 Registered: 12-2014 Posted From: 73.93.155.11 Rating: N/A |
maga as in male or #maga  | ||
Guriginja Legend Username: Guriginja Post Number: 37041 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 71.92.53.3 Rating: N/A |
why not ya...I am pissed off that chick fil a is closed on sundays...ammanaa buthul tittukunta...but vadistam..peekedem ledhu..alage hobby lobby ayina kuda...max you can boycott them...nothing wrong as long as anyone's fundamental/ constitutional rights are violated. | ||
Jai_ycp Hero Username: Jai_ycp Post Number: 10016 Registered: 04-2015 Posted From: 100.36.224.18 Rating: N/A |
ante mee views left wing tho match avvuthayi ani ala kalipesanu. sorry if you arent the story of YCP and TDP in 2014 (AP)- http://goo.gl/zgrYmQ http://goo.gl/gn6XL5 the story of TDP in 2014 (T) - http://goo.gl/nyu1Wu | ||
Patman Moderator Username: Patman Post Number: 3242 Registered: 06-2014 Rating: |
Okkati matram true ee diversity ane peru tho eligible maga candidates ni tokkesi adollaki manager posts isthhnaaru to increase the count , same way hiring lo kuda Thuuuuu naa bathuku .. akariki bala ni gillithe ban ayaaa .. chaasssssssss | ||
Mental_sachinodu Megastar Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 20549 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 50.241.19.41 Rating: N/A |
second, why are you equating me to left wing media? | ||
Mental_sachinodu Megastar Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 20548 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 50.241.19.41 Rating: N/A |
ofcourse. why do you assume that i wont support Chick Fil A or home depoit? | ||
Jai_ycp Hero Username: Jai_ycp Post Number: 10012 Registered: 04-2015 Posted From: 100.36.224.18 Rating: N/A |
google emi pathithi kadhu. they are under investigation for wage discrimination for women. the story of YCP and TDP in 2014 (AP)- http://goo.gl/zgrYmQ http://goo.gl/gn6XL5 the story of TDP in 2014 (T) - http://goo.gl/nyu1Wu | ||
Jai_ycp Hero Username: Jai_ycp Post Number: 10011 Registered: 04-2015 Posted From: 100.36.224.18 Rating: N/A |
do you think you and left wing media would do/feel the same if conservative chik-fill-A or hoem depot owner fires an employee for expressing liberal view point citing discord  the story of YCP and TDP in 2014 (AP)- http://goo.gl/zgrYmQ http://goo.gl/gn6XL5 the story of TDP in 2014 (T) - http://goo.gl/nyu1Wu | ||
Mental_sachinodu Megastar Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 20546 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 50.241.19.41 Rating: N/A |
He has freedom of speech, and he was able to express. Having freedom speech does not mean there should be no repercussions for it. if it was a debate forum, yes, he would not have been fired. But its an internal memo, which apparently was causing discord with in the company. if your team is in discord, and the reason is you, you will be fired. it does not mean he is wrong. the company needs the team to function on set goals. | ||
Jp_rocks Hero Username: Jp_rocks Post Number: 17405 Registered: 06-2009 Posted From: 73.36.15.73 Rating: N/A |
veedi agenda complete veru le...banon gadu direct ga 'silicon valley lo enduku anta mandi asian CEOs, mana vallu lera' ani edchina daridrudu..obviously ee lafoot media agency reflects the same values.. so there's an undercurrent hate on google already for the wrong reasons..this is just an avenue to spew it | ||
Rocketk2 Side Hero Username: Rocketk2 Post Number: 4513 Registered: 03-2014 Posted From: 166.137.252.126 Rating: N/A |
as simple as this!! | ||
Rocketk2 Side Hero Username: Rocketk2 Post Number: 4512 Registered: 03-2014 Posted From: 166.137.252.126 Rating: N/A |
This incident( both the memo and reaction to it) should reinforce our attention to politically charged environment we are in. I will not go there but few observations. The actual memo was obviously written by someone with some conservative leanings. That came out very clearly. I am ok with his attempt to make a coherent point. I think media and several other responses are not balanced in tone and content. The outrage is a bit cringeworthy and it's labeling as 'left' is not appropriate Since it is internal memo , there will be certain company specific diversity / ethics guidelines.... not exactly fireable offense but a slap on wrist. Company is not place to express political views. I am sure he might get have gone thru diversity training and there are *grounds for termination* . On a public forum it is a different story Coming to the content, I find it non-cohesive and lacks logical reasoning in some areas. More of a confirmation bias. He complains about Google attempt to counter racism/gender diversity problems and then points out they don't actively counter political diversity. This is my major issue with content. Asking for diversity only when it matches my convenience Finally, google's track record speaks for itself | ||
Ipc302 Megastar Username: Ipc302 Post Number: 25013 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 146.7.248.71 Rating: N/A |
Sundar Pichai memo.... This has been a very difficult time. I wanted to provide an update on the memo that was circulated over this past week. First, let me say that we strongly support the right of Googlers to express themselves, and much of what was in that memo is fair to debate, regardless of whether a vast majority of Googlers disagree with it. However, portions of the memo violate our Code of Conduct and cross the line by advancing harmful gender stereotypes in our workplace. Our job is to build great products for users that make a difference in their lives. To suggest a group of our colleagues have traits that make them less biologically suited to that work is offensive and not OK. It is contrary to our basic values and our Code of Conduct, which expects “each Googler to do their utmost to create a workplace culture that is free of harassment, intimidation, bias and unlawful discrimination.†The memo has clearly impacted our co-workers, some of whom are hurting and feel judged based on their gender. Our co-workers shouldn’t have to worry that each time they open their mouths to speak in a meeting, they have to prove that they are not like the memo states, being “agreeable†rather than “assertive,†showing a “lower stress tolerance,†or being “neurotic.†At the same time, there are co-workers who are questioning whether they can safely express their views in the workplace (especially those with a minority viewpoint). They too feel under threat, and that is also not OK. People must feel free to express dissent. So to be clear again, many points raised in the memo—such as the portions criticizing Google’s trainings, questioning the role of ideology in the workplace, and debating whether programs for women and underserved groups are sufficiently open to all—are important topics. The author had a right to express their views on those topics—we encourage an environment in which people can do this and it remains our policy to not take action against anyone for prompting these discussions. The past few days have been very difficult for many at the company, and we need to find a way to debate issues on which we might disagree—while doing so in line with our Code of Conduct. I’d encourage each of you to make an effort over the coming days to reach out to those who might have different perspectives from your own. I will be doing the same. I have been on work related travel in Africa and Europe the past couple of weeks and had just started my family vacation here this week. I have decided to return tomorrow as clearly there’s a lot more to discuss as a group—including how we create a more inclusive environment for all. | ||
Guriginja Legend Username: Guriginja Post Number: 37021 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 71.92.53.3 Rating: N/A |
private enterprise can do what they do within constitution limits...rest market will take care..united vadu kuda vadu correst ane chesadu..kummesar..alage bocchadu hotels...racial issues appudu..corrected themselves when media highlighted them..obviously business baga chesukovali anukune vaadu yevarni noppinchakunda chesukuntadu..lekunte have to face the consequences. | ||
Rasputin Megastar Username: Rasputin Post Number: 21432 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 172.56.4.157 Rating: N/A |
Manchi lawyer dorikithey... Wrongful termination suit file cheyyochemo - which will eventually be settled outside the court and he doesn't have to work again. I see Google's point. They wanted to act swift unlike Uber. 01/06/2012 - 169.4; 8/1/2013 - 182; 9/23/2016 - 185.8 | ||
Jai_ycp Side Hero Username: Jai_ycp Post Number: 10000 Registered: 04-2015 Posted From: 100.36.224.18 Rating: N/A |
Indiana bakery case lo nuvvu bakers vaipe annamata  the story of YCP and TDP in 2014 (AP)- http://goo.gl/zgrYmQ http://goo.gl/gn6XL5 the story of TDP in 2014 (T) - http://goo.gl/nyu1Wu | ||
Guriginja Legend Username: Guriginja Post Number: 37019 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 71.92.53.3 Rating: N/A |
neetho aa chanuvu vundhi ani teesukunna le saami..yeppudo seppav...db lo disco chestha not in my work place ani nuvve seppav..so ala annaanu..lite lelo. | ||
Guriginja Legend Username: Guriginja Post Number: 37018 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 71.92.53.3 Rating: N/A |
dantlo second thought ki avakasam yekkadundhi..business lo andarni serve cheyali..irrespective of their belief/ affiliations..but private enterprise lo they can do what they want naa....govt cant refuse...govt doesn't do that ani constitution kapaduthundhi..govt lo vundi naa istam ante G meedha tantharu.. | ||
Jai_ycp Side Hero Username: Jai_ycp Post Number: 9998 Registered: 04-2015 Posted From: 100.36.224.18 Rating: N/A |
guri sir idhi khandichu http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/08/07/mother-ba kers-refused-make-pro-trump-cake-son/ vadi religious belief ki addam ani gay marriage ki cake cheyyakapothe SC daka lakellaru. mari vellani emi cheyyali. the story of YCP and TDP in 2014 (AP)- http://goo.gl/zgrYmQ http://goo.gl/gn6XL5 the story of TDP in 2014 (T) - http://goo.gl/nyu1Wu | ||
Jai_ycp Side Hero Username: Jai_ycp Post Number: 9997 Registered: 04-2015 Posted From: 100.36.224.18 Rating: N/A |
guri lanti progressive mindset people dheni khandistaru anukunta http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/08/07/revealed-inside-goo gles-sjw-cabal-blacklists/ the story of YCP and TDP in 2014 (AP)- http://goo.gl/zgrYmQ http://goo.gl/gn6XL5 the story of TDP in 2014 (T) - http://goo.gl/nyu1Wu | ||
Jai_ycp Side Hero Username: Jai_ycp Post Number: 9996 Registered: 04-2015 Posted From: 100.36.224.18 Rating: |
conservatives meedha war declare chesina lib groups http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/08/07/the-google-rebels-d iversity-first-technology-second/ vellu oppress chetha vallu oppress chestunnaru ani godava chestaru. in fighting othe rpeople bias, they are more biased than the people they are fighting. the story of YCP and TDP in 2014 (AP)- http://goo.gl/zgrYmQ http://goo.gl/gn6XL5 the story of TDP in 2014 (T) - http://goo.gl/nyu1Wu | ||
Jai_ycp Side Hero Username: Jai_ycp Post Number: 9995 Registered: 04-2015 Posted From: 100.36.224.18 Rating: |
ippudu freedom of expression, equality evi leva? if he does not believe women folk cant compete with men, why does google bother? is his mistake to put the opinion on company forum?
 the story of YCP and TDP in 2014 (AP)- http://goo.gl/zgrYmQ http://goo.gl/gn6XL5 the story of TDP in 2014 (T) - http://goo.gl/nyu1Wu | ||
Tadi_mattayya Junior Artist Username: Tadi_mattayya Post Number: 81 Registered: 02-2017 Posted From: 64.128.22.8 Rating: N/A |
The guy has freedom of expression. similarly Company has the freedom of defining its code of conduct and at will employment... Guys views are not in line with the employers vision. | ||
Ipc302 Megastar Username: Ipc302 Post Number: 25011 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 146.7.248.71 Rating: N/A |
Nope Missouri | ||
Jp_rocks Hero Username: Jp_rocks Post Number: 17402 Registered: 06-2009 Posted From: 73.36.15.73 Rating: |
this is crazy...everybody is entitled to an opinion - if the guy is letting his personal opinion impact his work ethic or team spirit, it is an issue...why fire someone for sharing their opinion? maree antha political correctness enduku..vacation cancel cheskuni ravadam over | ||
Guriginja Legend Username: Guriginja Post Number: 37013 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 71.92.53.3 Rating: N/A |
ipc..you in atlanta? | ||
Ipc302 Megastar Username: Ipc302 Post Number: 25008 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 146.7.248.71 Rating: N/A |
correct ye kurrodi team ni ladies ki dooram ga pettalsi vacchedhi...direct ga meeru ee udyogam ki paniki raru ane feeling undhi naaku ante ladies enduku work chestharo ee kurrod tho | ||
Guriginja Legend Username: Guriginja Post Number: 37012 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 71.92.53.3 Rating: N/A |
jaiycp kurrod letter lekkundi...
raccha chesindi vaadu...picchayya respond avvaliga gola ayina taruvatha....picchayya chesindi correst..repu inkokadu inko letter rasthadu google lo prayer hall ledhano...nannu shoes yesukomantunnaro ani... | ||
Twotown Side Hero Username: Twotown Post Number: 7790 Registered: 09-2016 Posted From: 207.244.66.70 Rating: N/A |
edhi key annattu madamji... meeru homes lone kakundaa ila db lo kuda controling chetshunnaru kabatte... google lanti vallu dooram peduthunnaru  | ||
Guriginja Legend Username: Guriginja Post Number: 37011 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 71.92.53.3 Rating: |
rethug na matta anukunta..not only women,many of them are liberal ani yedupu...dump gadini support chesinanduku andaru kummi dobbuntaru..how can you ani...yadhava yedusthu...letter rasukunnadu..good job Picchayya...peeki dobbadu. | ||
Ipc302 Megastar Username: Ipc302 Post Number: 25007 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 146.7.248.71 Rating: N/A |
ala ayithe individual expression anedhi ban chesesthe bestu....sometimes people have very negative, lazy stereotypes about other races/genders/religions....i get that type of opinions should be taken care of....ee case lo he could have been reeducated/classes ki pampeyyalsindhi...any how maa conservative right wing blogs ee kurrodni support chesthunnaya ledha | ||
Redbull Side Hero Username: Redbull Post Number: 5320 Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 195.43.48.136 Rating: N/A |
At individual level - even Sunder could opine the same with that writer's views. but company annakaa konni rules vuntaayi kadhaa..so need to go by that | ||
Ipc302 Megastar Username: Ipc302 Post Number: 25006 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 146.7.248.71 Rating: N/A |
mari antha offensive ga emi rayaledhu ani naa tokkalo opinion...his opinion is not scientifically sound, feels like it though.......daaniki antha racha chesi pichai cutting short his vacation, sergei brin stopped middle of shaving and firing anedhi purely for PR purposes...chairman Mao ni follow ayyi kurrodni reeducation ki pampisthe set ayyedhi emo... | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 17999 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.179.185.115 Rating: N/A |
And OT outnumbers all but hypothesis disprove cheyyataniki okka example chalu Back to topic of google - it is the writer's opinion but the company has to decide the impact of his airing of that opinion ..tomorrow another guy may post another stereotypes ..race, religion or some such .. what you allow what you nip is for the company to decide The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Sannayi_nokkulu Hero Username: Sannayi_nokkulu Post Number: 17079 Registered: 06-2014 Posted From: 50.80.101.194 Rating: |
maam I will out number u r posts soon, I joined 6 yrs afer... sachipotava , avineethi ga batukutava okkate option ante alochinchakunda chachipotaa ane type cbn - OT Power of Kamma Brahminism ( not literal caste but ideology) is Baahubali -OT | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 17997 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.179.185.115 Rating: N/A |
 Let's Test this hypothesis - i joined DB after you and have 3 times the post count ...  And I don't even post that frequently The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Sannayi_nokkulu Hero Username: Sannayi_nokkulu Post Number: 17078 Registered: 06-2014 Posted From: 50.80.101.194 Rating: N/A |
ippudu Neel akka vacation cancel cheskoni vachi ninnu permanent ban chestondi DB nundi sachipotava , avineethi ga batukutava okkate option ante alochinchakunda chachipotaa ane type cbn - OT Power of Kamma Brahminism ( not literal caste but ideology) is Baahubali -OT | ||
Bharat Side Hero Username: Bharat Post Number: 4308 Registered: 06-2015 Posted From: 107.15.92.193 Rating: |
SJWs destroyed American universities, in a few years they will do the same to Silicon Valley. | ||
Boston_baba Side Hero Username: Boston_baba Post Number: 9945 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 122.172.54.225 Rating: |
The guy has freedom of expression to express his opinion. However, company internal forums lo posted kabatti, Google can reprimand him from posting such things. Firing means taking things too far and against the spirit of free thinking. TDP accepts that YSR govt irrigated 19lac acres in seemandhra, in 1991, AP debt is 22% of GSDP, in 2004 its 34% of GSDP, in 2014 its 22% of GSDP. | ||
Abhysg Legend Username: Abhysg Post Number: 41160 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 72.219.210.147 Rating: N/A |
http://money.cnn.com/2017/08/07/technology/google-anti-diver sity-memo-engineer/index.html Fired anta | ||
Platypus Side Hero Username: Platypus Post Number: 6777 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 82.13.134.86 Rating: N/A |
>> inka kurrodini fire cheyaledu Chesesaaru. Confirmed. https://www.theverge.com/2017/8/7/16111052/google-james-damo re-fired-anti-diversity-manifesto >> letter pdf or link unte ivvu annai....i may have missed it https://gizmodo.com/exclusive-heres-the-full-10-page-anti-di versity-screed-1797564320 | ||
Emc2 Legend Username: Emc2 Post Number: 54935 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 71.126.165.28 Rating: N/A |
pichayya is cancelling his vacation, he is coming back some supporting some objecting with in the google, inka kurrodini fire cheyaledu | ||
Doosukelta Junior Artist Username: Doosukelta Post Number: 886 Registered: 04-2016 Posted From: 145.116.179.131 Rating: N/A |
letter pdf or link unte ivvu annai....i may have missed it idi moderator cheta cheripiveyabadindi... | ||
Redbull Side Hero Username: Redbull Post Number: 5319 Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 195.43.48.136 Rating: N/A |
so is google thinking men and women are biologically same then | ||
Raman Legend Username: Raman Post Number: 52207 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 122.164.107.28 Rating: N/A |
bubbly annaduke firing and banning endo i condemn | ||
Chanakya Side Hero Username: Chanakya Post Number: 5800 Registered: 04-2015 Posted From: 198.203.175.175 Rating: N/A |
fire ayyada ayyo No one is going to tell you the truth. They’re only going to tell you their version! ~Julian Assange | ||
Platypus Side Hero Username: Platypus Post Number: 6776 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 82.13.134.86 Rating: N/A |
Entha mandhi follow avuthunnaaru ee controversy? Bay area mottham dummu duluputhoo undhi ee development. Ippudu worldwide diskos jaruguthunnaayi. Klupthamgaa cheppaalante oka googler employee internally forums lo gender diversity ki question chesthoo oka post raasaadu. His main point was that women were biologically wired differently than men and hence men were more suitable to do the kind of work that happened in Google. That guy has been fired from Google now. Sundar had to cut short his vacation and rush back to Mountainview to have a townhall with his employees. Maybe women are genetically indisposed to the kind of discussions we have on CCDB? |
