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Bithiri_bathi
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Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2017 - 05:40 pm:       


Kuyyo_morro:

Product companies lo FTE unnollaki emanna advantages or disadvantages unnaya ee kottha EO tho.




naaku telisi salary based lottery aithey...east/west coast companies would definitely get more number of H1Bs...most of the Bay Area companies entry level salaries are around 100k-140k

mid west, southern product based companies ki bokka definitely
 

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Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2017 - 05:36 pm:       


Andhravodu:

evadanna tellavarindi ani ante, t ki against ani edupu akkada. pacha kamerlu unnodiki lokam mottam... ani vadileyatame




nee gif selection koncham upgrade seyyuu... nee kavi hruyadam ardham kaka
They drew first blood, not me.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2017 - 03:49 pm:       

Product companies lo FTE unnollaki emanna advantages or disadvantages unnaya ee kottha EO tho.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2017 - 03:47 pm:       


Stellar:


evadanna tellavarindi ani ante, t ki against ani edupu akkada. pacha kamerlu unnodiki lokam mottam... ani vadileyatame
 

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Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2017 - 03:40 pm:       


Andhravodu:

ante nenu andhra vadini kadu antava




andhravodu ante T ki against ani fix ayyadani.. nuvvu vesina gif ni aa angle lo teesukunnadani naa thokkalo analysis :D
 

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Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2017 - 11:13 am:       


Stellar:




lite le bhaiyaa ee DB loo konth mandi pani gatukoni gelkutunaru nenu TG ke support ani... topic edhe ayyina
They drew first blood, not me.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2017 - 11:12 am:       


Stellar:

ID chusi misunderstanding chesukunnatu vunnav kurrodini


ante nenu andhra vadini kadu antava
 

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Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2017 - 11:10 am:       


Rambo_999:

ee andhravodu vachi marii gilluthunadu... prakash raj la gillite gillinchukovali ani expect sesthunadu..




ID chusi misunderstanding chesukunnatu vunnav kurrodini
 

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Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2017 - 11:03 am:       


Kantha_rao:




naak opika kuda ledu... ee andhravodu vachi marii gilluthunadu... prakash raj la gillite gillinchukovali ani expect sesthunadu..
They drew first blood, not me.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2017 - 11:01 am:       

main topic kanna rambo n andhravodu sarasaalu baagunnaayi
 

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Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2017 - 10:55 am:       


Andhravodu:




baga kali ga unatu unav
They drew first blood, not me.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2017 - 08:06 am:       


Rambo_999:


 

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Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2017 - 07:44 am:       


Stellar:


65 ke 6 years pani sesa peekadaniki emi le better than india kada
 

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Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2017 - 07:38 am:       


Raman:

bottom line enti 70k vache maalatollaki entry unda leda?




70K tho ikkadiki vachi emi peekudamani.. akkade vundandi

 

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Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2017 - 01:55 am:       


Andhravodu:

endi nee kodi language, naluka teginda. asalu context emito choosukuni matladatam nerchuko




Kodi ke language kuda untunda ?? context lekunda ochi mari rechagotey gifs vesi gelukovadam
nuvvu first maneyi..tharuvatha naku salhalu esdhivuu kanii ee extralu aapi.
They drew first blood, not me.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2017 - 12:50 am:       


Rambo_999:


endi nee kodi language, naluka teginda. asalu context emito choosukuni matladatam nerchuko
 

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Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2017 - 12:47 am:       


Bithiri_bathi:


generally speaking anna kada, mallee stats backing ante what man. trumpanna cheppinattu ardham cheskovali

naa tech lo, I worked with some very smart russkies, and 1 very smart amru tellodu. rest all Andhra and occassional damil/kannadiga. northie gadu sollu kaburlu cheppi, manager/director avutadu kani actual working ki only south Indians ni hire chestadu
 

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Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2017 - 12:41 am:       

http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/18/technology/h1b-reform/index. html
 

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Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2017 - 12:30 am:       


Andhravodu:

because generally speaking, h1b productivity is 2/3 locals put together? about time they get compensated a little better




ee stats ekkada nundi...mee personal observation aa? naa team lo naaku iddaru white folks report chestharu

okadu music band ani eppudu work delay ki saaku chepthadu...inkodu wife ki baaledhu, kids ni choosthunna intlo...i have my reasons, i never worked on this piece of code ani cutting

eppudu edho oka excuse, migitha team antha Indians...fear tho aina deliverables on time ki istharu
 

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Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2017 - 12:27 am:       

bottom line enti 70k vache maalatollaki entry unda leda?
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 11:49 pm:       


Andhravodu:





ee DB lo nee ID ke eppud reply evvaledu...ninnu mention chesi natu gurthukuda ledu...ekkad a TG Andhra topic kuda raledu..ayyina vachi mari gelinchukuntavu...entoo mee sadism...ohooo....TG ke support ani aa ne g lo b.
They drew first blood, not me.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 11:40 pm:       


Andhravodu:




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They drew first blood, not me.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 11:19 pm:       


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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 11:15 pm:       


Andhravodu:





They drew first blood, not me.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 11:12 pm:       


Rambo_999:

Gas was never below $1 since the 80


 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 10:37 pm:       


Ravino786:

keepin all these aside my honest opinion... several Indian consulting comapanies desam lo 100-200 recruters ni petti ekakda mari 10 mandhi ni kuda pettakunda kakurthi lo kamandalam chestunaru...and alage 50 plus resources unna cmpany can have decent office with local recruters ....ead wallani ettukoni nelaki 1000 resorce ki oen dollar ani matladukodam worst...

ee area lo abuse jargindhi jarugutundhi locla ga kud akonni jobs cheste cheyyali manollu recruters and account manaers ni ...




Engineering complete ayyinaka recruiting eppudu hot job India loo./
They drew first blood, not me.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 10:33 pm:       

keepin all these aside my honest opinion... several Indian consulting comapanies desam lo 100-200 recruters ni petti ekakda mari 10 mandhi ni kuda pettakunda kakurthi lo kamandalam chestunaru...and alage 50 plus resources unna cmpany can have decent office with local recruters ....ead wallani ettukoni nelaki 1000 resorce ki oen dollar ani matladukodam worst...

ee area lo abuse jargindhi jarugutundhi locla ga kud akonni jobs cheste cheyyali manollu recruters and account manaers ni ...
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 10:29 pm:       


Rambo_999:

Gas was never below $1 since the 80's




anni states lo same price vundadu ga
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 10:28 pm:       


Ravino786:

rambo 1.06 is average....ma degara 85-95 undedhi na civic used to be full tank by 10 bucks




aa time loo naaku anthe karchu ayyedhii...naaa rockshock cycle tire loo gali kotadanike.
They drew first blood, not me.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 10:27 pm:       


Ravino786:

nenu 85-95 cents ki kottincha 97-98 lo ...




legehess...

76cents per gallon kottinchaanu nenu...
Oka aalochana medilindi..aa aalochane nannu ennukundi..kaabatte ee post padindi.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 10:27 pm:       


Ravino786:



Yup..2000 lo texas was below 1$ .. around 90c I think
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 10:26 pm:       

rambo 1.06 is average....ma degara 85-95 undedhi na civic used to be full tank by 10 bucks
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 10:23 pm:       


Sannayi_nokkulu:


Mari already unna h1s nj emi sestaru?



They should continiue.. twords logical end , GC etc
I think , They may create 3 year ead type visa with no extension or not eligible for gc ..go back 1 year and get another 3Years.. for this , they need senate/house bills approvals.. but this would Not help local economy or to retain talent..
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 10:21 pm:       


Asdf:


vallaki gcs istaaru




oka ration cardu,pakka illu kuda katishara
They drew first blood, not me.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 10:19 pm:       


Ravino786:

rambo nenu 85-95 cents ki kottincha 97-98 lo ...







http://www.1990sflashback.com/1998/economy.asp
They drew first blood, not me.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 10:17 pm:       


Aggipidugu116:

Point based system



bokka gaaani raanisthaaaru lobbyistlu.... EB1C ane gold gooosu ni etta sampukuntaar
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 10:17 pm:       


Sannayi_nokkulu:

Mari already unna h1s nj emi sestaru?




vallaki gcs istaaru
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 10:16 pm:       

rambo nenu 85-95 cents ki kottincha 97-98 lo ...
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 10:14 pm:       


Mamamiya786:

MS lo kuda preference vundali ...npu , svu lanti , dakota colleges lo MS ani cheppi thala egareyydam ...tappa emi ledu ..

A grade colleges ki MS cheste 2years lo GC ivhheyali anthem ....




nen adey seppa.....dakota startford/silconvalley/npu/ITU/heregon gallu malli MS category GC ante echi waste... !! State colleges.
They drew first blood, not me.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 10:14 pm:       


Aggipidugu116:

No more h1 for companies more than 15% h1 as employees..
Point based system


Mari already unna h1s nj emi sestaru?
sachipotava , avineethi ga batukutava okkate option ante alochinchakunda chachipotaa ane type cbn - OT
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 10:13 pm:       


Aggipidugu116:

When 55k for H1 adopted in 1991, gasoline might be around 60cents/gallon.. now it increased by 4 times.. but H1 minimum salary remains same.. so they r planning to double..

Minimum to 110k -130k .. its over due by 25 years
No more h1 for companies more than 15% h1 as employees..
Point based system




Gas was never below $1 since the 80's
They drew first blood, not me.
 

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When 55k for H1 adopted in 1991, gasoline might be around 60cents/gallon.. now it increased by 4 times.. but H1 minimum salary remains same.. so they r planning to double..

Minimum to 110k -130k .. its over due by 25 years
No more h1 for companies more than 15% h1 as employees..
Point based system

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Nservicebus:

lekunda 200k vachayi ante chala surprising ga undi.



sachipotava , avineethi ga batukutava okkate option ante alochinchakunda chachipotaa ane type cbn - OT
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 09:58 pm:       


Cool_indian:

Can anyone define 'high skill' ?




high skill definition H1 pettinappudu nunchi same vundi. emi maaraledu
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 09:50 pm:       


Musicfan:

enni applications vachinaa ichedi 65k ye gaa


85 + non profit quota H1's a couple thousand
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 09:46 pm:       

MS lo kuda preference vundali ...npu , svu lanti , dakota colleges lo MS ani cheppi thala egareyydam ...tappa emi ledu ..

A grade colleges ki MS cheste 2years lo GC ivhheyali anthem ....
Sensation(About Bala):He can win in atleast half of the segments in Rayalaseema. Emi matladutunnavo neeku telusa. He can contest any where in coastal and rayalaseema districts. I personally feel he should contest from Srikakulam dt.

Jagan|Modi|
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 09:44 pm:       


Kukatpally:

annai ee sari 199k h1 applications vachayi... which is less than last yr y 30k ante...




enni applications vachinaa ichedi 65k ye gaa :-)
Baahubali 2 Audio review
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 09:44 pm:       


Sannayi_nokkulu:




Annayi dump bayam lekunda 200k vachayi ante chala surprising ga undi.. witch vallu e matram baya paduthunnattu kana ravatam ledu....l1 chesi eb1 kummutharu emo..
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 09:38 pm:       


Rocketk2:




Mee obama vadhikina muriki kadagali ante systems ne root tho saha change cheyyali. Chesthamu
the story of YCP and TDP in 2014 (AP)- http://goo.gl/zgrYmQ
http://goo.gl/gn6XL5
the story of TDP in 2014 (T) - http://goo.gl/nyu1Wu
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 09:35 pm:       


Rambo_999:

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Good for him. Nenu citizen kabatti ee policy ankunnava
the story of YCP and TDP in 2014 (AP)- http://goo.gl/zgrYmQ
http://goo.gl/gn6XL5
the story of TDP in 2014 (T) - http://goo.gl/nyu1Wu
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 09:33 pm:       


Rocketk2:




annai ee sari 199k h1 applications vachayi... which is less than last yr y 30k ante...

good 30k more jobs for americans... trump effect....MAGA

ani feel aye batch vunnaru.... gawd save this country anukunna
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 09:32 pm:       


Rocketk2:

There is a pattern I noticed in Trump EO's.




Trump PR - Till now, his harshest critics have called him inconsistent and volatile. The same people are proclaiming he is consistent with his EOs. Some leaders are born, some evolve.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 09:30 pm:       


Musicfan:

Politics can make believe anything..


Its not politics fault :-)

in famous words of W, " fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me - you can't get fooled again."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A
 

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final ga java and .net developers not higly skilled and alaki h1s waste ani decide chesada maa ycp annai.. adi lekka ala vundali animutyam ante
 

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Jai_ycp:

Rambo_999:





YCP garu....meer u okkare USC ayinatu...buildup ....ma buddodu kuda US citizen aae..
They drew first blood, not me.
 

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Rocketk2:

vagueness




start the process of building walll....

start the process of repealing ACA....

prepare report time and appropriations permitting on h1b program

details iste court lo koduthunnar saar... M-Ban EO
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 09:24 pm:       


Jai_ycp:

Breitbart perspective



:-)

http://www.chalanachithram.com/cgi-bin/discus/show.cgi?tpc=1 15&post=6301099#POST6301099
There is a pattern I noticed in Trump EO's. they dont address the main problem but create enough vagueness. This vagueness can be used to support their populist agenda and propaganda
 

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Cool_indian:

Can anyone define 'high skill' ?



smart ga teppa tagaleshadam lo experience
 

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Nservicebus:

h1 or h4 meeda padathadu ani artham


very vatini gelikithe ikkada kukka dobbulu kada
sachipotava , avineethi ga batukutava okkate option ante alochinchakunda chachipotaa ane type cbn - OT
 

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Jai_ycp:


I see cbn-ramoji here
sachipotava , avineethi ga batukutava okkate option ante alochinchakunda chachipotaa ane type cbn - OT
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 09:15 pm:       

Naku artham ayyindi emiti ante dump gadu other issues solve cheyalennappudu h1 or h4 meeda padathadu ani artham ayyindi...reps gallu kukka edupu edcharu Obama eo and ea release chesthunnappudu. E l***** gallu ippudu chesthandi emiti
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 09:15 pm:       

last 10 years lo 33 million GC's are given away..

now they are talking about 65K are stealing away jobs in the country.

Politics can make believe anything..

Migita visas lo abuse evariki teliyadaa, leka pattinchukoraa??
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Can anyone define 'high skill' ?
 

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Breitbart perspective


http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/04/18/h-1b-experts-trump s-order-elected/
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Neel:



Policy ki principal ki personal ki teda teliyani batch lendi. I told multiple times that my close family has people pursuing masters, opt, hi, gc and citizens. That does not change what I think is a just policy. I only talk from policy perspective. Gummadikaya donga evaru ante bhujalu tadumukunnattu tasumukuntaru janalu

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Neel:

evaro Pastor antunnaru
tondara GC vache idea cheppandi




ante matham maari, prabhodhana seste emaina istaaraa ani adugutunnara? koncham amrikan accent nersukuni, nenu matladithe pakkana bronil telgoo lo translate sestunte aa kicke veru /run
 

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Nservicebus:

Mee badha h1 meeda edite undo deni dumpa tega...edavakandi ra ayya...
Diversity visa 50k, family visas 1 million, no count on l1 visas istante 80k h1 visa meeda paddara...




family and diversity joliki elthe latin and saanthi doothala lobby(aclu) kummutaaru. courts bhi discrimination kinda kottestaaru.

H1 aithe strict officer sai kumar ani marks kotteyachu, aa paina seppina organizations ki out of syllabus. h1 pani ayyaka l1 meeda padatharu emo, one at a time
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 08:59 pm:       


Jai_ycp:

I am in management but has .net background




evaro Pastor antunnaru
tondara GC vache idea cheppandi
 

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Sannayi_nokkulu:




I agree. Lobby for industries is good. Trump gadu edhanna reform chesthe future baguntundhi Americans ki lekapothe manufacturing type avvudhi
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Jai_ycp:


dhani meedha kooda focus vundhi. ikkada db lo H!B meedha disco anthe.

http://www.npr.org/2017/02/07/513957928/republican-lawmakers -propose-new-law-to-reduce-legal-immigration


picha light emi cheyadu..ivanni enduku gani eb1 ni mundhu control cheyyandi dammu unte...:D
sachipotava , avineethi ga batukutava okkate option ante alochinchakunda chachipotaa ane type cbn - OT
 

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Stalker:



Nenu entry mid level jobs ani anna. Sariga chudu

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 08:44 pm:       

Ycp annai ki eeroju odarpu gyarentee anni aanimutyal vadulthunnadu
Graduation lo nersune java ki java architect ki same to same skillset ani decide chesad annai
 

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Stellar:




You are ala ways talking about employee but not petitoner. Petitioner vadiki IIT vadu Akkaraledhu local university lo bsc chesinodu chalu. Vadu takkuva kostunnaru ani IIT vadini hire chestunnaru which should be fixed
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 08:38 pm:       


Rambo_999:




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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 08:37 pm:       


Netra:




Aa technology takkuva anataledhu. They don't come under specialized skills or in demand ani antunna. Ikkada kids high school lo ne java nerpistunnaru. Yearly hundreds of thousand are passing degrees in stem. Alantappudu specific skills ki vadalsjna H1B vadatamu tappu.

I am in management but has .net background
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 08:32 pm:       


Stellar:

andi paine desis ani eemadya taggincham ani cheppadu. antha mandi desis vunna company nenu ekkada chudaledu us lo.. aa desis antha ye rockets kanipedtannaro




YCP fan aythe pastor ayyi untaru ley.... religious categories visa loo GC 5yrs lo citizenship.. sanaa mandhi ne chusanu ee route lo.
They drew first blood, not me.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 08:30 pm:       


Jai_ycp:




Ayanaku total immigration bill pass chese scene ledule.. e rules chetilo unnayi kada ani uputhunnadu oorika...
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 08:27 pm:       


Jai_ycp:




bro.. nuvvu ee technology??
YSR AMAR RAHE
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 08:26 pm:       


Rocketk2:

my point is Hire America as framework to resolve ' H1B issues( with only 65k jobs per year) is not correct.



ee point arddam aithe janam dheniki argue sesttaru.. how come H1B will solve this.. 85K kaakunte 50-60K pattukosttaru.. max 25000 jobs save chesttaru.. dhaanlo 90% offshore pothaai since software lo you don't need to be in US. idhi ee vidham gaa solve chesuddi?? malla JAVA edho thutumbar technology annattu sebuthunnaru.. ee hadoop lu haleem lo time ki vasttai pothaai and inkoti evaluate avuthundhi.. but Java and Javascript alaane untadhi and it needs special skills to implement.. ivi evaluate ayye frameworks.. etta kaavalante atta vaadukovachhu
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Jai_ycp:

still you need 50K from outside that too basic programming skills


50k is for special skills in shortage ...not for basic skills. so implementation flaws if any need to be addressed.
before I digress again.. my point is Hire America as framework to resolve ' H1B issues( with only 65k jobs per year) is not correct.
 

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Jai_ycp:

teesumotalledhu ane kadha ee order ichindhi. nuvvu, nenu, truck dirver. 18 wheel vehicle driver andaru dirvers ee. H!B anedhi pettindhi 18 wheel drive chese vadi kosamu ikkada doraka pothe. anthe kaani dhani peru cheppi 4 wheel car drive chese drivers ni teesuku rataniki kadhu




neeku okati ardham kaatam ledule.. ikkada ee programming jobs ki vachevaadu mostly other option lekapothe vastad. ante vaadiki idi last option. manollu IIT lo chadivi kuda ikkada ee low level jobs kosam try chestar entry kosam. companies ki adi benefit.
 

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Rocketk2:



Nothing is unreversible. the big money industries have powerfull lobbies. end of the day service is made to an american. you can enforce any law.
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Andhravodu:

1st is consistent with my original point, if you maintain US operations, you need to have an us work force. Same with china or any other place. But mainland china is a hellhole and mnc's stay in hongkong


Ok. discuss chesi law pass cheyyamanadi.. mana foundational capitalism principles ki 'hole' padudhi.. :-) .. New york state and claifornia(I think ???) categorically enforces what you said here. you know they are called liberal hotbeds .. right ???

Andhravodu:

quality of labor vs. cost of setup. Foreign labor is all cracked up, until you realize the difficulties in management and turnover. To manage better, you need to hire highly qualified people and suddenly it's not that much of savings


lot of assumptions here. nenu ichina ratio's pretty close to real industry. but konni areas lo ee problem vunnayi.. not in back office.. i agree with you ona broader context. but the operational efficiency being built in outsourcing is taking care of most of these. Outsourcing is not going to be reversing phenomenon, just like manufacturing, until something else in world changes drastically. the rise in transportation, infrastructure and communication took care of that
 

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Stellar:



teesumotalledhu ane kadha ee order ichindhi. nuvvu, nenu, truck dirver. 18 wheel vehicle driver andaru dirvers ee. H!B anedhi pettindhi 18 wheel drive chese vadi kosamu ikkada doraka pothe. anthe kaani dhani peru cheppi 4 wheel car drive chese drivers ni teesuku rataniki kadhu.

ippudu jargutundhi adhe.
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Jai_ycp:

law pass cheina intent and purpose adhu. anthe kaani neeku naaku india lo jobs vundataledhu help chedhamu ani kadhu




Law lo rasara java vaddu, .net vaddu ani :D max jobs aa technologies lo vuntayi kabatti requirement ekkuva vuntadi. antha mandi dorikithe teesukoka povataniki vallakemanna picha? h1 lo kontha fraud avutondi , daanni handle cheyali kaani ye technology lo availability vunnaru dentlo leru anedi ela telustundi?
 

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Nservicebus:



dhani meedha kooda focus vundhi. ikkada db lo H!B meedha disco anthe.

http://www.npr.org/2017/02/07/513957928/republican-lawmakers -propose-new-law-to-reduce-legal-immigration
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Nservicebus:

Mee badha h1 meeda edite undo deni dumpa tega...edavakandi ra ayya...
Diversity visa 50k, family visas 1 million, no count on l1 visas istante 80k h1 visa meeda paddara...


dxmma ide mana h1b badluck ante deeniki todu gc kosam queu lo 20yrs weighting...dxmma avasarama ee lanjoduklaaki tax lu katti g 10gichukodam....denkeddam desam....
sachipotava , avineethi ga batukutava okkate option ante alochinchakunda chachipotaa ane type cbn - OT
 

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Mee badha h1 meeda edite undo deni dumpa tega...edavakandi ra ayya...
Diversity visa 50k, family visas 1 million, no count on l1 visas istante 80k h1 visa meeda paddara...
 

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Stellar:



law pass cheina intent and purpose adhu. anthe kaani neeku naaku india lo jobs vundataledhu help chedhamu ani kadhu
the story of YCP and TDP in 2014 (AP)- http://goo.gl/zgrYmQ
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 07:55 pm:       


Stellar:

new tech meeda experience vunnollu india or foreign countries lo dorukutara? adi ela sadhyam


why not? that's the intent anyway right
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 07:55 pm:       


Jai_ycp:


annai nee drusti MS students meeda koooda ettu
 

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Stellar:



cheppindhi example ga. intent is to get foriegn workers of there is an unusual demand which cannot be met by local talent ani.

entry/mid level programming jobs ki ikkada dorakaledhu ledha picha demand vundhi ante


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Jai_ycp:

machine language programming, ;edha kernal programming or it could be a tool which there is no local talent.




ivi oka 30-40 years nunchi vunnayiga.. enduku dorakaru local ga. avi limited jobs kabatti evadu vaati meeda depend avvadu. inka nayam fortran,pascal,cobol analedu
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 07:51 pm:       

Hire amelican is not all a problem...

maa team lo oka exampe septha...mgr nallodu nenu join ina time lo join ayyadu

vaadiki baaga feeling ..so initial ga tellollani push chesadu work side motham vallake ellali valle cheyali annattu gaa....but over the time aadiki scene ardam ayyindi....manam ee time lo ante aa time lo login avutham..long hours work sethamu....and much much faster than others ani...

memu 1 week lo chesedi oka tellodiki isthe 3 months chesadu...chivaraki mgr gaadiki scene ardham ayyi projects move avvali ante, maname seyyali ani...inka lite tesukunnadu appati nuchi...
 

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Jai_ycp:

for example lets big data was adopted by all companies and they severely needd haddop admins




new tech meeda experience vunnollu india or foreign countries lo dorukutara? adi ela sadhyam :D
 

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Ntr_rocks:

I dont think he can make major changes to H1 using EO, thats Y am not worried. It should go through rule making process I think


yep, uttine tataku chappatlu..obvious cases ni moostaru..alrady chestunnaru..ippudu special ga vacche loss pedda emi undadu
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Stellar:



machine language programming, ;edha kernal programming or it could be a tool which there is no local talent.
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 07:49 pm:       


Rocketk2:

Is there increase in local talent in these areas?Genuine question


Yes. Java is being taught as early as high school classes and almost every college kid knows it
 

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Jai_ycp:

basic programming skills.




complex programming ante ela vuntadi?
 

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Maverick:

inta kante simple ga companies can't have more than 10% or 25% of total work force in US as H1B ante potundi ga..


already evo vunnayi ga ela, intha kante ekuva % vunte fee ekuva ani...

I dont think he can make major changes to H1 using EO, thats Y am not worried. It should go through rule making process I think

aa 130K min wages rule pettindi Dems gallu, eedu tagulukunte adi pass avuddi, apudu memu india povachu..
 

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Andhravodu:

hese were specialized skills a while ago, now they're common ani ycp annai bhavamu

andaru adi ardham chesukokunda personal ga bp tecchesukunnaru






perfect. for example lets big data was adopted by all companies and they severely needd haddop admins. adhi specialized skill need and avochu.
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Rocketk2:


In US, you get AP Clerk for about 75k(with 21% benefit).
In India, you get 15k CTC( i am being liberal). Quite likely better qualified.

What is the motive to have this backoffice job in US ?


couple of reasons

1st is consistent with my original point, if you maintain US operations, you need to have an us work force. Same with china or any other place. But mainland china is a hellhole and mnc's stay in hongkong

2) quality of labor vs. cost of setup. Foreign labor is all cracked up, until you realize the difficulties in management and turnover. To manage better, you need to hire highly qualified people and suddenly it's not that much of savings
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 07:46 pm:       


Maverick:

inta kante simple ga companies can't have more than 10% or 25% of total work force in US as H1B ante potundi ga..


daniki law pas cheyyali..President cannot give an EO
 

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inta kante simple ga companies can't have more than 10% or 25% of total work force in US as H1B ante potundi ga..
Happy Vizag
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 07:42 pm:       


Rocketk2:

Wrong comparision


akkada melania meeda paddaru ani anna, meeru enduku padataru

Still, there's a big difference between amateur models and professionals
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 07:39 pm:       


Rocketk2:



assuming 50K out of 65K are IT related, you really believe that thre are 50,000 IT jobs who cant find any local people because of lack of skills.

common sir.

starting from 1991 when H1B started, if you count people migrated along with thier spouses, there are 2 million high skilled workers. this is in addition to all college level grads in 25 years.

still you need 50K from outside that too basic programming skills.
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 07:39 pm:       


Jai_ycp:

an alien having a residence in a foreign country which he has no intention of abandoning (i) who is of distinguished merit and ability and who is coming temporarily to the United States to perform temporary services of an exceptional nature requiring such merit and ability.




where is this definition from? H1B is a dual intent visa. bolded part is not relevant, IMO
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 07:33 pm:       

na meedha paddara.nenu cheppedhi kottha H1B batch gurinchi. meeru aa quota lo raaru kadha.

mundu kasta history telusukuni padandi. This is what H1 source is

an alien having a residence in a foreign country which he has no intention of abandoning (i) who is of distinguished merit and ability and who is coming temporarily to the United States to perform temporary services of an exceptional nature requiring such merit and ability.

.net, java, tester jobs "services of an exceptional nature requiring such merit and ability." ante god bless you.

2000 decade start lo nurses vacancy vundhi. appudu chala mandhi ni H1B kindha techukunnaru. later they caught up and stopped. alage Y2K appudu.

ippudu manaki labham aa nastama ani pakkana petti entry or mid level .net and java developer dorakada US lo.

siggu padakunda atma vimarsa chesukondi.
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 07:32 pm:       


Andhravodu:

these were specialized skills a while ago, now they're common ani ycp annai bhavamu


Is there increase in local talent in these areas?Genuine question! My impression is they became common due to increase in supply via H1B.

It may take some time before local talent catches up to required numbers. Also the 'Cheap labor' issue ni resolve cheyyataniki already labor certification vunnayi kadha. How much more tweaking can they do there? i am not denying the problem exists.. i am only wondering how big and relevant of a problem this is in grand scheme of things??
 

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Dhonifan:



Dhonifan:



Microsoft etc don't need H1s... all the companies can setup offshore branches hire there and bring on L1s.
Witch companies can do near site delivery by hiring some space and moving folks from client site too there..
 

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b) In order to promote the proper functioning of the H-1B visa program, the Secretary of State, the Attorney General, the Secretary of Labor, and the Secretary of Homeland Security shall, as soon as practicable, suggest reforms to help ensure that H-1B visas are awarded to the most-skilled or highest-paid petition beneficiaries.

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(i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof;

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(b) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.

(c) This order is not intended to,
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 07:27 pm:       


Guru:

Why can't Indian offshore companies hire citizens for onsite i teas of going for h1 n pay them peanuts


now they go for more L1s



Between 2009 and 2013, an average of 67,855 L-1 visas were issued per year, according to US State Department records. But there's no limit on the number of L-1s allowed in a given year.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 07:18 pm:       

Why can't Indian offshore companies hire citizens for onsite i teas of going for h1 n pay them peanuts
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 07:13 pm:       


Andhravodu:

I don't think it's all for cheap labor. If that's the case, only customer facing jobs would've been left in us and everything else would've been gone


The primary drivers of operations outsourcing is availability of resources and labor aribitrage.
ball park numbers(manly in service industry w.r.t India and phillipines) i have seen is about 1 : 3 in high end consulting and 1:7 in low end BPO and support services.

the 'American jobs' problem has way bigger issues than any solace H1B reforms can offer. andhuke H1B reforms should target h1b problems ani na abhiprayam.


Andhravodu:

If that's the case, only customer facing jobs would've been left in us and everything else would've been gone


Pretty good possibility.

In US, you get AP Clerk for about 75k(with 21% benefit).
In India, you get 15k CTC( i am being liberal). Quite likely better qualified.

What is the motive to have this backoffice job in US ?


Andhravodu:

nuvvu, nee whole friends circle, nee pakkintodu andaru java developers. mee mandalo okkadu anna models ayyara


Wrong comparision :-)
Majority of kids that come out of US schools are like models. how many java programmers do you have. .. so java programmar is like rockstar :-)
Check this ad from about 8 - 10 yrs back
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 07:10 pm:       


Abhysg:

Rambo_999:



Evaru swamy eyyina Java Developers ke H1B enti antunadu..... kompa teesi NASA lo pani sesthunada??




ycp pani chese company lo kuda sagam mandi paine desis ani eemadya taggincham ani cheppadu. antha mandi desis vunna company nenu ekkada chudaledu us lo.. aa desis antha ye rockets kanipedtannaro :D
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 07:02 pm:       


Rambo_999:




Evaru swamy eyyina Java Developers ke H1B enti antunadu..... kompa teesi NASA lo pani sesthunada??





 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 07:00 pm:       

(b) In order to promote the proper functioning of the H-1B visa program, the Secretary of State, the Attorney General, the Secretary of Labor, and the Secretary of Homeland Security shall, as soon as practicable, suggest reforms to help ensure that H-1B visas are awarded to the most-skilled or highest-paid petition beneficiaries.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 06:59 pm:       


Rocketk2:

These are specialized skills!!!


these were specialized skills a while ago, now they're common ani ycp annai bhavamu

andaru adi ardham chesukokunda personal ga bp tecchesukunnaru
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 06:55 pm:       

oka company lo more than 5 percent or 15 percent ala some X percent of employees in USA non citizens unte, they are not eligible for applying H1Bs ante appudu correct ga purpose serve avutundhi. which is to control witch/consulting firms
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 06:52 pm:       


Jai_ycp:

Only specialized skills H1B issue cheyyali. .Net developer, java developer, testers ki H1B emiti saami arachakamu kakpothe.


These are specialized skills!!!
until US supply catches up they are in demand. Andhuke Obama garu STEM, relevant market education ani nethi noru badhukune vadu..

lottery is not without logic. when you have 1 : 5(approx) openings to applications ratio...its almost impossible to setup a criteria without causing starvation to some fields/industry. until the applications become manageable, they have to use the randomness of lottery to certain extent. It can be tweaked to become a more intelligent lottery!

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