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Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 - 11:29 am:       

SP bala ki should pay rayalty to all music directors evari pata ni padithe variki...at least chakri lanti family ki konchem help avuddi
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 - 09:01 am:       

ABN lo disco ostandi.. Tammareddy, Vandemataram inkondaru...

IR sesindi legal ga right.. ani telchar..
 

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Posted on Monday, March 20, 2017 - 11:40 am:       

The singer points out that unlike many music composers in India, AR Rahman owns the complete Intellectual Property to his compositions, allowing him to reproduce his musical works in different languages. But notes that music directors like AR Rahman are a rarity in India.

“The system has always been that a composer creates the tunes and gives it to the audio label, for lock, stock and perpetuity, and all these contracts come into place. A composer then isn’t in a position to reuse his own composition. It actually puts him in a disadvantage because he has signed it off to the audio label and he cannot even use his own compositions on stage. So, technically an audio label can sue a music director if he performs it on stage. Which is why you see composers like Shankar Mahadevan - even if they have sung for others, they don’t pick up those songs and sing it on stage. It is a humongous problem,” observes the singer.

Swaroop points out that in that the 1970s and the 1980s music producers would buy the musical copyright from composers. Having begun his career in the late 1970s, Ilaiyaraaja never received royalties being unaware of his rights. “It is only recently that he gained knowledge about his musical copyright,” says a source close to Ilaiyaraaja.
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Posted on Monday, March 20, 2017 - 11:39 am:       


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IR ki mind dhobbs lekapothe income nill aindha ippudenti idhi kotthaga



Bunty717:

producer paid IR for the tunes.. movie release ayehaa inka aa songs/tunes ki IR ki link ledu..




Weighing in on the legal tussle, Swaroop Mamidipudi, an advocate practicing in copyright law says, “Ilaiyaraaja is right to ask SPB for royalty, presuming he owns the musical work. The singer doesn’t have the copyright. Under law, he should get the composer’s permission, pay royalty and then perform.”

Swaroop explains that there are two copyrights – one for the musical work and another for sound recording. “When a person composes a work, he owns the piece of music. And when it is recorded, the music producer owns the recording,” he points out. When it comes to live performances, however, consent is required from the composer rather than the music label.

A singer, who wished to remain anonymous, told TNM that it is normal practice for organisers to seek permission from composers for their musical works before a concert. “Every time a concert is organised, the event organiser is supposed to take a list of songs. Also, I think every channel, when they organise a reality show, when these kids sing a song, they take a list. They pay a royalty. It’s a small fee they have to pay for all these songs and they pay. It’s the same with radio stations. They pay a certain amount to audio labels or to composers, whoever holds the copyright or Intellectual Property for the song,” the singer said.
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Posted on Monday, March 20, 2017 - 11:33 am:       


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I think there is a limit of 60 years on any creative work (music, lyrics etc). Beyond 60 years, anyone can use it
 

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Posted on Monday, March 20, 2017 - 11:32 am:       


Bunty717:


IR ki audio companies undevi tanu compose chesina movies rights teeskonevaadu. legala ga possible aithene kada notice pampisthaadu.
 

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Posted on Monday, March 20, 2017 - 11:32 am:       


Bunty717:

Producer case pettali .. IR enti.. producer paid IR for the tunes.. movie release ayehaa inka aa songs/tunes ki IR ki link ledu..




ledhannai ee law eppatinuncho undhanta ..every composer uses his resources for composing so any songs that label his name comes under his property and royalty should be paid, but evvaru antha legalise cheskoru except ARR, ippudu IR kallu therichadu anthe.
 

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Posted on Monday, March 20, 2017 - 11:29 am:       

Producer case pettali .. IR enti.. producer paid IR for the tunes.. movie release ayehaa inka aa songs/tunes ki IR ki link ledu..
 

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Posted on Monday, March 20, 2017 - 11:29 am:       

one person's ego busted by another's ego
of coz ikkada playing victim card
 

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Posted on Monday, March 20, 2017 - 11:26 am:       

ala aithe annamayya thyagaraju aathmalochhi manandhirini sue chesi pada dhobbali .. IR ki mind dhobbs lekapothe income nill aindha ippudenti idhi kotthaga ..aa ochhe royalti chillara kosam why this useless fight
 

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Posted on Monday, March 20, 2017 - 11:24 am:       

IR ki inthaku mundu interest undedi kaadu kaani ee madhya stage shows chala chestunnadu adi kooda oka reason ayyi untundi.
 

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Posted on Monday, March 20, 2017 - 01:15 am:       

even movie lo 30 seconds kanna ekkuva oka song use cheste, they have to pay royalty to the copyright owner or seek their prior permission to use it.

interesting incident regarding this.

Sakhi movie beginning lo Madhavan headphones pettukuni oka song vintunnatu shoot chesaranta. they used a bit of Backstreet Boys for that. Backstreet Boys ki HMV daggara unnayanta rights. So, Maniratnam vallu HMV valal dwara adigipiste original owners of that album quoted for a fancy figure of Rs. 1cr (in 99-2000!!!) anta to use that bit in the movie.
Mani vallu aithe lite teesuko ani cheppi, ARR chetha own piece compose chesi pettukunnaranta.

same, thing few years lo reverse aindi anta.. Maniratnama Dil Se movie lo Chaiyya Chaiyya bit ni Inside Man ane movie lo vadukovali ani adigithe. The music label who had the rights were willing to give it away for free for the hollywood production anta. But Mani said no, if they could charge us that much, we will charge the same ani. quoted the same fance figure anta (in 2005). and they paid it!!

http://www.sbdbforums.com/post/show_single_post?pid=12951465 17&postcount=34&forum=114443

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Posted on Monday, March 20, 2017 - 01:12 am:       

SPB vs Raja royalty issue - The moral angle

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Unknown to most people what Balu has done here is protect the organisers of his concert tour. ...... By deliberately putting this up as a fight between him and Raja, he has pushed the organisers to the background. It was their job to procure the permission but they didn't do it.

While you can claim that SPB has a moral right because he gave his life to the song, what moral right does the organiser have in not paying Raja his royalty? The organisers are making crores. They are paying SPB and Chitra crores. So why not pay a small sum as royalty and get the permission? Why is SPB not asking this question to the organisers? It is clear that the organisers want to make as much profit as possible, don't want to pay Raja and are now shooting from SPB's shoulders. It will also be pertinent to ask SPB is he is performing Rahman's songs without his permission. That will tell us the true state of affairs. Of whether SPB doesn't worry about any music director or if it is only in the case of Raja songs.

I would personally say that when SPB is making crores singing songs composed by Raja while he refuses to ask organisers to pay Raja his royalty (or get his permission), shows him to the petty person. He should have pushed his organisers to do the moral thing, which he refused to do. Additionally, he has now protected the organisers by making this an SPB vs Raja affair. Very unfortunate that this has to go this way.


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Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2017 - 10:57 pm:       


Megapowerstar:

IR: Vini em cheyali; dance cheyamantava?


kiki, tandri ki leka ----- sametha laaga, asaley IR ke offers leka bicham ettukottunte malli nee cd vini ninnu encourace cheyali ani emo
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2017 - 10:43 pm:       


Relentless_trader:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWiHnWEqCNs&list=PLtMkp_0dp- j2mSU9Cq3TaI64rVOLH9dk0&index=5

cant imagine one without other ..




Telugu lo super untaayi..For instance, Mantri gaari viyankudu..
major hits.
Hopefully, they remove their differences.
Chiru,Veturi,SPB,Ilayaraja,Jandhyala,Vamsi,K Viswanath,Sachin
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2017 - 10:12 pm:       

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWiHnWEqCNs&list=PLtMkp_0dp- j2mSU9Cq3TaI64rVOLH9dk0&index=5

cant imagine one without other ..

:-(
Pulp ..
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2017 - 03:11 pm:       


Jake_ryan:




Producer will not keep the rights. He will sell it off to some audio company. Here Ilayaraja got rights for most of those movies thru his own audio company.

If anyone uses for commercial purposes he has every right to ask royalty
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Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2017 - 03:03 pm:       

I fail to understand: IR gets paid for the movies he worked. So, whatever are his compositions wont be his, rather, belongs to those movie producers who paid him to compose those songs.
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2017 - 12:58 pm:       


SPB:

I only request you all not to have any harsh opinions and discussions regarding this. If this is the design of God, I obey it with reverence.
Sarvejanah Sukhinobhavanthu.




Idhi athi athi vinayam.
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2017 - 12:50 pm:       

Nutshell lo anecdote cheptha, recent ga oka interview lo Top Hindi MD, Pritam cheppadu - vadiki edo pata ki 10 lakhs isthe, adi padina Mika over the last few years has earned 15 crores on it by singing it in his live events.Thus has been a burning issue for a long time. IR chesina dantlo thappemi ledhu.
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2017 - 12:30 pm:       


Asdf:

if sp was paying royalty to rahman and ignoring raja, notice pampatam lo tappu ledu




Correctey kani matter lo losugulu vunnayi baagaa

But iddaru baaga hurt ayyaru
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2017 - 12:10 pm:       


Nanigadu:

vari thappu ledhu




if sp was paying royalty to rahman and ignoring raja, notice pampatam lo tappu ledu
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2017 - 12:05 pm:       


Stellar:

royalty kadatara regular ga :D




Lakshallo sampayisthey thappakunda kadatha :D
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2017 - 11:26 am:       

17-10-2014
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/HC-restrains -firms-from-selling-Ilayarajas-songs/articleshow/44843589.cm s?from=mdr

CHENNAI: After allowing free sourcing of his hit numbers for decades, music director Ilayaraja has now succeeded in getting the Madras high court restrain top audio recording companies from selling his compositions violating copyright.
In a career spanning more than four decades, Ilayaraja composed music for more than 4,500 songs, and he is the only person in the history of cinema to provide film scores for more than 1,000 films, the application filed in the court read. Crediting himself with introducing folk songs in Tamil film music and fusing western musical sensibilities with south Indian musical mainstream, Ilayaraja said he has won a record four Indian national awards, besides a Padma Bhushan.
While last month, Justice S Tamilvanan granted interim injunction, thereby effectively stopping at least five audio recording companies from selling compilations of Ilayaraja' without his permission, on Thursday Justice R Subbiah extended the interim ban till October 20.
In his civil suit, Ilayaraja named Agi Music Pvt Ltd, Echo Recording Company Pvt Ltd, Unisys Info Solution Pvt Ltd, Agi Music and Giri Trading Company from manufacturing, selling, distributing or in any manner infringing his exclusive right under the Copyright Act, 1957 to deal with sound recording composed by him.
The maestro said he had not given copyright to any company through his wife as claimed by them.
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2017 - 11:19 am:       


Nanigadu:




meeru kuda konni songs padatar kada stage meeda. royalty kadatara regular ga :D
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2017 - 11:16 am:       


Asdf:




Evari thappu ledhu
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2017 - 11:04 am:       


Nanigadu:



So.......



kooo
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2017 - 10:55 am:       


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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/HC-restrains -firms-from-selling-Ilayarajas-songs/articleshow/44843589.cm s?from=mdr

Ilayaraja has been working on the copyright issue for so long it seems. If SPB doesn't know being in Film industry its sad..

Edi emaina tege daaka lagaru iddaru giants.. Lets watch.. we will never have clue of what happened in the background. So we cannot be judgemental.

End of the day its paisa issue for both bundled with their own egos.. Why do we care..

this has nothing to do with either of their skills which we adore in either of them..

My take on this..
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Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2017 - 10:49 am:       

SPB muskuni intlo kukoka inka ee torture enti maaku.. aa archestra owner guda thane...ramoji ki padutha theyaga sesukoka...inka $ pound ani aratam endi naa royyiah...
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2017 - 10:46 am:       


Nanigadu:

Twist in the case

SPB pays royalty to ARR for singing his songs ata

So.......




aithe tappu led
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2017 - 10:42 am:       

Twist in the case

SPB pays royalty to ARR for singing his songs ata

So.......
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2017 - 10:21 am:       

idi complicated topic...sp balu neethlu seppukuntu money make sesthe...music director ki rayalty ivvala or singer ki ivvala or music right konna audio company ki percentage basis ivvali
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2017 - 10:21 am:       


Uno:

Do you know restaurants /hotel (even in India)which play piped music in the background are paying (for the license)




vallu iche advertisement ki ee composure emi pay chestannad? :d
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2017 - 09:47 am:       


Maverick:

singers are singing it again and earning, is ilayaraja orchestrating the music again to earn? SPB old recording play cheyyacha stage ekki padakunda? i dont think you can equate both




Intellectual Property rights will not work the way you think

Albert Einstein has died in 1955.It does not mean that every one is free to use his theories and Principles to build and sell their products with out paying royalties. But his Intellectual Property Rights (patents)have earning him millions of dollars .Last year alone he has earned $12 million last year.
There are many companies which are valued only for the IP rights they hold.

Do you know restaurants /hotel (even in India)which play piped music in the background are paying (for the license)
Pls refer this site for more info: http://www.pplindia.org/licctg.aspx
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2017 - 09:46 am:       

Legendehess...

SPB is the only singer we remember from our TFI leaving apart all the other oldies like Ghantasaala..

Any damn song from our generation was sung by SPB...

Most of my favorite songs are by SPB barring Kishore Kumar & i dont really care who composed them as it is the songs which i remember n not the composer..

RespeKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKT to SPB

fcuk any composer...anthe...
Oka aalochana medilindi..aa aalochane nannu ennukundi..kaabatte ee post padindi.
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2017 - 09:39 am:       


Maverick:




A singer, who wished to remain anonymous, told TNM that it is normal practice for organisers to seek permission from composers for their musical works before a concert. �Every time a concert is organised, the event organiser is supposed to take a list of songs. Also, I think every channel, when they organise a reality show, when these kids sing a song, they take a list. They pay a royalty. It�s a small fee they have to pay for all these songs and they pay. It�s the same with radio stations. They pay a certain amount to audio labels or to composers, who every holds the copyright or Intellectual Property for the song,� the singer said.
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2017 - 09:36 am:       


Aristotle:

singers sampadistunnaru...not a single penny to composer...chala complicated ayyindhi issue


singers are singing it again and earning, is ilayaraja orchestrating the music again to earn? SPB old recording play cheyyacha stage ekki padakunda? i dont think you can equate both
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Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2017 - 09:34 am:       


Kingaa_bongaa:

show lo variuos songs composed by various MDs paaduthaaru. ee lekkalo, oka padhi mandhi daggara permission adigi, padhi mandhiki royalty isthe inka SPB or any other singers shows cheyadam endhukuu?




A singer, who wished to remain anonymous, told TNM that it is normal practice for organisers to seek permission from composers for their musical works before a concert. �Every time a concert is organised, the event organiser is supposed to take a list of songs. Also, I think every channel, when they organise a reality show, when these kids sing a song, they take a list. They pay a royalty. It�s a small fee they have to pay for all these songs and they pay. It�s the same with radio stations. They pay a certain amount to audio labels or to composers, who every holds the copyright or Intellectual Property for the song,� the singer said. //

as per law,what ir is doing correct...singers sampadistunnaru...not a single penny to composer...chala complicated ayyindhi issue
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2017 - 09:29 am:       


Termi:

Baga ayyindi dunna pothu SPB ganiki


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Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2017 - 09:27 am:       


Aristotle:


Weighing in on the legal tussle, Swaroop Mamidipudi, an advocate practicing in copyright law says, �Ilaiyaraaja is right to ask the SPB for royalty, presuming he owns the musical work. The singer doesn�t have the copyright. Under law, he should get the composer�s permission, pay royalty and then perform.�


show lo variuos songs composed by various MDs paaduthaaru. ee lekkalo, oka padhi mandhi daggara permission adigi, padhi mandhiki royalty isthe inka SPB or any other singers shows cheyadam endhukuu?
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Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2017 - 07:14 am:       

sorry duplicating ayyindhi post
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2017 - 07:12 am:       

Baga ayyindi dunna pothu SPB ganiki
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Music director Ilaiyaraaja’s decision to send singers SP Balasubrahmanyam (SPB), Chitra and Charan legal notices over performing his compositions has taken many by surprise. While SPB took to Facebook to say that he did not get any “feelers” from the music composer when his SPB50 tour in America began and that he is “ignorant” of the law, many others wondered if there was more to the legal notice.

Read: Ilaiyaraaja sends legal notice to SPB, says SPB doesn’t have permission to sing his songs

Speaking to The News Minute, Ilaiyaraaja’s copyrights consultant E Pradeep Kumar says, “People have misunderstood the issue. Ilaiyaraaja has given two press meets in the last few years telling people not to perform his songs unless they get permission from him and pay royalty. It is not anything new. SPB has created a situation where a legal notice had to be sent.”

Pradeep argues that the famed music director has devoted over 35 years of his life in composing pieces and the royalties that he deserves to receive are not being paid. He, however, adds. “We are not compelling orchestras or musicians who are surviving on Ilaiyaraaja’s music to pay up royalties. We are only concentrating on people who are earning lakhs or crores by using his creations. SPB is not doing charity shows. They are minting money and the composer doesn’t get 1 rupee. It his work and creation.”

With Ilaiyaraaja holding the copyright to many of his songs, Pradeep observes that SPB should have taken the music director’s permission prior to commencing his SPB50 tour, which kicked off in Toronto last August. “They are friends. He could have spoken to Ilaiyaraaja and gotten rights to perform.”

He also points out that the composer never seeks a percentage of the revenue generated from the shows. “There is flexibility. We are saying you tell us how much you want to pay. You have to ask for permission and pay a royalty. But no one is willing to pay even 1 rupee. People want to utilise him free of cost,” says Ilaiyaraaja’s copyright consultant.

In 2015, the music maestro had warned radio stations and television channels of legal action if they played his songs without his consent.

“Only I hold the right to all my songs. The agreements that I signed back in the day were valid only for five years. Since they were not renewed and no royalties have been paid, all agreements stand void,” Ilaiyaraaja said in 2015. He had also gone on to say that he would share the royalties he received from these broadcasters with the film producer, singers and lyricists.

Weighing in on the legal tussle, Swaroop Mamidipudi, an advocate practicing in copyright law says, “Ilaiyaraaja is right to ask the SPB for royalty, presuming he owns the musical work. The singer doesn’t have the copyright. Under law, he should get the composer’s permission, pay royalty and then perform.”

Swaroop explains that there are two copyrights – one for the musical work and another for sound recording. “When a person composes a work, he owns the piece of music. And when it is recorded, the music producer owns the recording,” he points out. When it comes to live performances, however, consent is required from the composer rather than the music label.

A singer, who wished to remain anonymous, told TNM that it is normal practice for organisers to seek permission from composers for their musical works before a concert. “Every time a concert is organised, the event organiser is supposed to take a list of songs. Also, I think every channel, when they organise a reality show, when these kids sing a song, they take a list. They pay a royalty. It’s a small fee they have to pay for all these songs and they pay. It’s the same with radio stations. They pay a certain amount to audio labels or to composers, who every holds the copyright or Intellectual Property for the song,” the singer said.

The singer points out that unlike many music composers in India, AR Rahman owns the complete Intellectual Property to his compositions, allowing him to reproduce his musical works in different languages. But notes that music directors like AR Rahman are a rarity in India.

“The system has always been that a composer creates the tunes and gives it to the audio label, for lock, stock and perpetuity, and all these contracts come into place. A composer then isn’t in a position to reuse his own composition. It actually puts him in a disadvantage because he has signed it off to the audio label and he cannot even use his own compositions on stage. So, technically an audio label can sue a music director if he performs it on stage. Which is why you see composers like Shankar Mahadevan - even if they have sung for others, they don’t pick up those songs and sing it on stage. It is a humongous problem,” observes the singer.

Swaroop points out that in that the 1970s and the 1980s music producers would buy the musical copyright from composers. Having begun his career in the late 1970s, Ilaiyaraaja never received royalties being unaware of his rights. “It is only recently that he gained knowledge about his musical copyright,” says a source close to Ilaiyaraaja.











Music director Ilaiyaraaja’s decision to send singers SP Balasubrahmanyam (SPB), Chitra and Charan legal notices over performing his compositions has taken many by surprise. While SPB took to Facebook to say that he did not get any “feelers” from the music composer when his SPB50 tour in America began and that he is “ignorant” of the law, many others wondered if there was more to the legal notice.

Read: Ilaiyaraaja sends legal notice to SPB, says SPB doesn’t have permission to sing his songs

Speaking to The News Minute, Ilaiyaraaja’s copyrights consultant E Pradeep Kumar says, “People have misunderstood the issue. Ilaiyaraaja has given two press meets in the last few years telling people not to perform his songs unless they get permission from him and pay royalty. It is not anything new. SPB has created a situation where a legal notice had to be sent.”

Pradeep argues that the famed music director has devoted over 35 years of his life in composing pieces and the royalties that he deserves to receive are not being paid. He, however, adds. “We are not compelling orchestras or musicians who are surviving on Ilaiyaraaja’s music to pay up royalties. We are only concentrating on people who are earning lakhs or crores by using his creations. SPB is not doing charity shows. They are minting money and the composer doesn’t get 1 rupee. It his work and creation.”

With Ilaiyaraaja holding the copyright to many of his songs, Pradeep observes that SPB should have taken the music director’s permission prior to commencing his SPB50 tour, which kicked off in Toronto last August. “They are friends. He could have spoken to Ilaiyaraaja and gotten rights to perform.”

He also points out that the composer never seeks a percentage of the revenue generated from the shows. “There is flexibility. We are saying you tell us how much you want to pay. You have to ask for permission and pay a royalty. But no one is willing to pay even 1 rupee. People want to utilise him free of cost,” says Ilaiyaraaja’s copyright consultant.

In 2015, the music maestro had warned radio stations and television channels of legal action if they played his songs without his consent.

“Only I hold the right to all my songs. The agreements that I signed back in the day were valid only for five years. Since they were not renewed and no royalties have been paid, all agreements stand void,” Ilaiyaraaja said in 2015. He had also gone on to say that he would share the royalties he received from these broadcasters with the film producer, singers and lyricists.

Weighing in on the legal tussle, Swaroop Mamidipudi, an advocate practicing in copyright law says, “Ilaiyaraaja is right to ask the SPB for royalty, presuming he owns the musical work. The singer doesn’t have the copyright. Under law, he should get the composer’s permission, pay royalty and then perform.”

Swaroop explains that there are two copyrights – one for the musical work and another for sound recording. “When a person composes a work, he owns the piece of music. And when it is recorded, the music producer owns the recording,” he points out. When it comes to live performances, however, consent is required from the composer rather than the music label.

A singer, who wished to remain anonymous, told TNM that it is normal practice for organisers to seek permission from composers for their musical works before a concert. “Every time a concert is organised, the event organiser is supposed to take a list of songs. Also, I think every channel, when they organise a reality show, when these kids sing a song, they take a list. They pay a royalty. It’s a small fee they have to pay for all these songs and they pay. It’s the same with radio stations. They pay a certain amount to audio labels or to composers, who every holds the copyright or Intellectual Property for the song,” the singer said.

The singer points out that unlike many music composers in India, AR Rahman owns the complete Intellectual Property to his compositions, allowing him to reproduce his musical works in different languages. But notes that music directors like AR Rahman are a rarity in India.

“The system has always been that a composer creates the tunes and gives it to the audio label, for lock, stock and perpetuity, and all these contracts come into place. A composer then isn’t in a position to reuse his own composition. It actually puts him in a disadvantage because he has signed it off to the audio label and he cannot even use his own compositions on stage. So, technically an audio label can sue a music director if he performs it on stage. Which is why you see composers like Shankar Mahadevan - even if they have sung for others, they don’t pick up those songs and sing it on stage. It is a humongous problem,” observes the singer.

Swaroop points out that in that the 1970s and the 1980s music producers would buy the musical copyright from composers. Having begun his career in the late 1970s, Ilaiyaraaja never received royalties being unaware of his rights. “It is only recently that he gained knowledge about his musical copyright,” says a source close to Ilaiyaraaja.
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2017 - 07:10 am:       

Music director Ilaiyaraaja’s decision to send singers SP Balasubrahmanyam (SPB), Chitra and Charan legal notices over performing his compositions has taken many by surprise. While SPB took to Facebook to say that he did not get any “feelers” from the music composer when his SPB50 tour in America began and that he is “ignorant” of the law, many others wondered if there was more to the legal notice.

Read: Ilaiyaraaja sends legal notice to SPB, says SPB doesn’t have permission to sing his songs

Speaking to The News Minute, Ilaiyaraaja’s copyrights consultant E Pradeep Kumar says, “People have misunderstood the issue. Ilaiyaraaja has given two press meets in the last few years telling people not to perform his songs unless they get permission from him and pay royalty. It is not anything new. SPB has created a situation where a legal notice had to be sent.”

Pradeep argues that the famed music director has devoted over 35 years of his life in composing pieces and the royalties that he deserves to receive are not being paid. He, however, adds. “We are not compelling orchestras or musicians who are surviving on Ilaiyaraaja’s music to pay up royalties. We are only concentrating on people who are earning lakhs or crores by using his creations. SPB is not doing charity shows. They are minting money and the composer doesn’t get 1 rupee. It his work and creation.”

With Ilaiyaraaja holding the copyright to many of his songs, Pradeep observes that SPB should have taken the music director’s permission prior to commencing his SPB50 tour, which kicked off in Toronto last August. “They are friends. He could have spoken to Ilaiyaraaja and gotten rights to perform.”

He also points out that the composer never seeks a percentage of the revenue generated from the shows. “There is flexibility. We are saying you tell us how much you want to pay. You have to ask for permission and pay a royalty. But no one is willing to pay even 1 rupee. People want to utilise him free of cost,” says Ilaiyaraaja’s copyright consultant.

In 2015, the music maestro had warned radio stations and television channels of legal action if they played his songs without his consent.

“Only I hold the right to all my songs. The agreements that I signed back in the day were valid only for five years. Since they were not renewed and no royalties have been paid, all agreements stand void,” Ilaiyaraaja said in 2015. He had also gone on to say that he would share the royalties he received from these broadcasters with the film producer, singers and lyricists.

Weighing in on the legal tussle, Swaroop Mamidipudi, an advocate practicing in copyright law says, “Ilaiyaraaja is right to ask the SPB for royalty, presuming he owns the musical work. The singer doesn’t have the copyright. Under law, he should get the composer’s permission, pay royalty and then perform.”

Swaroop explains that there are two copyrights – one for the musical work and another for sound recording. “When a person composes a work, he owns the piece of music. And when it is recorded, the music producer owns the recording,” he points out. When it comes to live performances, however, consent is required from the composer rather than the music label.

A singer, who wished to remain anonymous, told TNM that it is normal practice for organisers to seek permission from composers for their musical works before a concert. “Every time a concert is organised, the event organiser is supposed to take a list of songs. Also, I think every channel, when they organise a reality show, when these kids sing a song, they take a list. They pay a royalty. It’s a small fee they have to pay for all these songs and they pay. It’s the same with radio stations. They pay a certain amount to audio labels or to composers, who every holds the copyright or Intellectual Property for the song,” the singer said.

The singer points out that unlike many music composers in India, AR Rahman owns the complete Intellectual Property to his compositions, allowing him to reproduce his musical works in different languages. But notes that music directors like AR Rahman are a rarity in India.

“The system has always been that a composer creates the tunes and gives it to the audio label, for lock, stock and perpetuity, and all these contracts come into place. A composer then isn’t in a position to reuse his own composition. It actually puts him in a disadvantage because he has signed it off to the audio label and he cannot even use his own compositions on stage. So, technically an audio label can sue a music director if he performs it on stage. Which is why you see composers like Shankar Mahadevan - even if they have sung for others, they don’t pick up those songs and sing it on stage. It is a humongous problem,” observes the singer.

Swaroop points out that in that the 1970s and the 1980s music producers would buy the musical copyright from composers. Having begun his career in the late 1970s, Ilaiyaraaja never received royalties being unaware of his rights. “It is only recently that he gained knowledge about his musical copyright,” says a source close to Ilaiyaraaja.
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2017 - 06:55 am:       

ayina ee concerts IR songs lekunda cheyalera? tamil vi kastam emo
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2017 - 06:52 am:       

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Evaruu Adaganantha kalam use chesukovachu
 

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Onlytruth:


Surprise that intha mandi wrong guy in this case spb side teesukunnara ?


Paatha Ntr,Anr songs lani US lo vinipisthe dhaaaniki evari permissions theeskovaaali mari...
qa{New_user,Inkosari personal comment cheste, cheppu theguddi. Be in your limits.}
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2017 - 05:52 am:       

American music industry gets paid every single time its played in public


Akhariki amateur utube family moments videos lo BGM kindha use chesina voorukoru


Alantidi ikkada yekanda shows chesestaa unnaru vela $ denkesi


Pay raja his due share every time u play his song

Surprise that intha mandi wrong guy in this case spb side teesukunnara ?
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2017 - 05:48 am:       

Voogudu aaputara ? ilayaraja or his company ki rights lekapote ... Vallu notice serve cheyagane balu sir amayakudu aa songs paadadam aapesadu anukuntunnara ?

Rights must have lied with Raja


Rights ilayaraja vi ainappudu ayana headstrongO , daivasamanudo either way it doesnt matter

Its money


Okadi sommu tho inkokadi bank balance peragalante dengadu

Balu emaina free ga chestunnaru aaa ?

Emotion aapandi
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Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2017 - 05:26 am:       


Guriginja:

andarini vadu veedu antadu..ademi aanandamo...mic isthe he is a softcore mogan babu in his speeches ...in nemaresukovadam about his association with others.





Lol. Rudraveena lo Gemini type aipothadu anifistadi.
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2017 - 03:51 am:       

illayaraaja vs Vairamuthu

illayaraja vs Manirathnam

illayaraja vs spb during late 80's most of rajini movie sung with mano

now once again fell out with spb..

headstrong guy Illayaraaja
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2017 - 03:44 am:       

Still feel singers should get rights to songs.

But it appears now that Rahman is asked for permission and given royalty. Seems only fair that SPB do same with all composers.

But confirmed news is that both SPB and Raja fell out of good relationship abfew years back. Perhaps who issue again. Can't fault SPB there. Most humble man
 

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Madrascalcutta:

Charan, if you are reading this... all the best for the rest of the shows!



meals bitragunta
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 10:17 pm:       

Movies/TV Channels/Radios - Basically survive on old music of Ilayaraja. So I do feel bad when intellectual property isn't given due share. None of us will be happy if the same happened to us.

But it doesn't make sense to send notice to SPB/Chithra, who have a share in the creative process.

I believe it used to be the producer who owned. But many times, the music side isn't even paid. Singers nowadays make Income out of show.

SPB and Ilayaraja always get into an ego battle once every decade. SPB is the only person who refers to him as 'vaadu veedu'. They had problems in 90s, 00's but always patched up. Chithra and Mano are two non-confrontational. I know S.Janaki and Ilayaraja have not been on speaking terms for over a decade.

Very disappointed with Ilayaraja, as a fan. I like SPB. He is far mmore honest than people like Ilayaraja, ARRahman.

Please do support musicians. Hardly anyone buys intellectual property and they make their income via stage shows.

Charan, if you are reading this... all the best for the rest of the shows!
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 09:48 pm:       


Manthri:

Ilayaraj career peak lo kuda Mano ni alternative ga project cheyyadaniki try chesadu



vooruko saami...mano ki chaance ichhadanthe
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 09:39 pm:       


Manthri:

Ilayaraj career peak lo kuda Mano ni alternative ga project cheyyadaniki try chesadu




public ga vaadu vaadu antadu spb..kopamemo.
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 09:36 pm:       

Ilayaraj career peak lo kuda Mano ni alternative ga project cheyyadaniki try chesadu
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 09:31 pm:       


Guriginja:


producer yepudo ammesthadu kadha vaa....only recording company..unless vadu music directors/ sigers ki for ever royalty ani agreement sesukunte tappa..but balanga tagilinchali..eellaki..aaa manisharma gadi arachakaalu varnanateeth abba yemanukuntado....koti kurrod rocks amma..nata ki vacchadu....raccha lepadu padindhi 4 songs ayina....latest hits vere vaallavi kuda padadu/ kottadu.




outright ammaru naaku telisi..some X years paatu all rights vuntayi..tarvatha movie producer ve...even screening rights kaani/TV rights kaani years based vuntadi...
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 09:23 pm:       


Saint:

It must n should be a producers property.




producer yepudo ammesthadu kadha vaa....only recording company..unless vadu music directors/ sigers ki for ever royalty ani agreement sesukunte tappa..but balanga tagilinchali..eellaki..aaa manisharma gadi arachakaalu varnanateeth abba yemanukuntado....koti kurrod rocks amma..nata ki vacchadu....raccha lepadu padindhi 4 songs ayina....latest hits vere vaallavi kuda padadu/ kottadu.
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 09:19 pm:       

It must n should be a producers property....bend it like beckham gallu bend ayyi vuntaru..
even audio companies get x years of rights...after that its producers property...

IR gaadi OA ki cheppu tegela reply ivvali producers...SPB ki baaga ayyindi....kiki ki atlnae avvali...
 

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nenu okasari SPB concert ki boston area lo vellanu. evadi fans or language valla hero/language songs kavalani kekalu. chiraku/time waste ..appudedo kothalo vallanu kaani.. ippudaithe kastam




ee spb kurrod saala athi anipisthundhi especially pogudutha teeyaga frogram lo andarini vadu veedu antadu..ademi aanandamo...mic isthe he is a softcore mogan babu in his speeches ...in nemaresukovadam about his association with others.
 

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Guriginja:

manam..yepss kaabatti vellaam ba...stage meedha tappa yekkada light levu peddha..




nenu okasari SPB concert ki boston area lo vellanu. evadi fans or language valla hero/language songs kavalani kekalu. chiraku/time waste ..appudedo kothalo vallanu kaani.. ippudaithe kastam
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 09:10 pm:       


Stellar:


aa concerts ki ticket koni vellevallani cheppukovali




manam..yepss kaabatti vellaam ba...stage meedha tappa yekkada light levu peddha..aa mundaki yevado phone tho recording chesthunnadu ani kanapadi concert song madyalo apesadu....racchamayi gaadu stage yekki okati peekunte hero ayyevadu..yadava migilina times lo stage yeki gola gola...no importance to me ani....asalu antha racche paapam.
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 09:07 pm:       

chinna singer aite anukovacchau..spb chitra lanti vallu padutunna daniki notice ante something ayyindi..
Happy Vizag
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 09:06 pm:       


Guriginja:

i see a guy, there a guy here ani concert apesadu two times....aaadu aadi yadava kaaamidi




aa concerts ki ticket koni vellevallani cheppukovali

 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 09:03 pm:       


Stellar:


music director ilayaraja ke record label company vundanta




aadi company nunchi vacchina vatiki adagocchu...notothers gaaa...aaa bokadia maniarma gaadu chicago ata lo aadu kotte kala kaandalu janalu youtube lo yethiki mari suttharani feeling la vundhi....no recording with phones,,, i see a guy, there a guy here ani concert apesadu two times....aaadu aadi yadava kaaamidi
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 09:01 pm:       


Guriginja:




New rule edo vundi. some royalty pay cheyyali vaallaki on the revenue made by the song.
Desam Meesam Thippudam - Balayya
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 09:00 pm:       


Guriginja:

songs/ music record companies kontayi..ee director ki kattedendhi bongu.




music director ilayaraja ke record label company vundanta
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 08:58 pm:       

bokadias..music directors ki kattedendhi...what ever they have, take up with the label company....bocchu kuda yemikaadu...cinema ki produer sole owner....songs/ music record companies kontayi..ee director ki kattedendhi bongu.
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 08:21 pm:       


Madrascalcutta:

How is it possible that singers can't sing their songs.




I think the copywright is with the producers unless they sell it to MDs...
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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 08:20 pm:       

Music is team work. How is it possible that singers can't sing their songs.
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 05:26 pm:       


Abhysg:

IR ki audio company undi..Most movies ku rights teeskonevadu.




Telugu lo ledu anukunta. Ikkada ee notice godava kuda tamil songs ayi vuntayi
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 05:21 pm:       

Producer kada technically owner of that tune? He is paying the music dirs to compose for his movie. Unless there is an agreement made between music dir n producer about royalty, producer owns it no?
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 02:59 pm:       


New_user:




Now I remember...IR ki audio company undi..Most movies ku rights teeskonevadu...Rajkoti interview lo cheppad..RK telugu lo alane try seste evaroo oppukoledu... Debbayyar
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 02:46 pm:       


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IR entha worst na matta nj tour lone ardhamaindhi


emaindhi? details pls
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 02:42 pm:       


Raman:

spb troup lo guitarist ga chrchukunnadu raja talent ni gurtinchi then the ilairaja phenomenon happened ..

balu lekunte raja radam chala late ayyundedemo


antha ledu le annai... IR was already in the band of M S Vishwanathan.... guitar ani kadu e instrument isthe adi vayinchesevadu anta.... SPB tho musical nights happened later

But iddari madhya ila godava ravadam music lovers ki pedda bokka the hole

Okaru ekkuva okaru thakkuva ani cheppalem... iddaru iddare

they are destined to be together to create a golden era in music world
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 02:40 pm:       


Kadapafan:


Ee lekkana orchestras andari meeda kooda padataara??




Ala aithey approval ki denial ke saripoddi migilina jeevitham antha :-)
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 02:26 pm:       


Megapowerstar:

For instance, KRR loves hamsa nandi ragam and u see that being repeated in many of his movies: kila kila (pelli sandadi), andama (allari priyudu), vasantam laa (muddula priyudu), muddimmandi oo chamanti (allari mogudu)


oh ok..andhukena KRR and keervani movies lo tunes similar ga untayi..looks like bhakthi movies ki same raga use chestharu anukunta..annamayya ki monna vachina ONV ki tunes similar anipinchayi..
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 02:19 pm:       

Ee lekkana orchestras andari meeda kooda padataara??
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 02:18 pm:       

Ilayaraja chetha music cheyinchu kovali ante, rights athanike ivvali. Rights athanivi, per law notice ichchadu. Dabbu evariki chedu?

Deeniki tamil, telugu ani oogadam waste.
Hero eppudu shirt vipputhada ani wait chese "In the closet" dbers badha ni Indian society ardham chesukovali ani korikuntu, ki ki ki....
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 02:05 pm:       


Nanigadu:

First SPB post lo eti rasado chadivaraa

Couple of days back, an Attorney representing Shri.Iliaya Raja, sent legal notices to me, Smt.Chithra, Charan,




Yes,the rights holder generally represent Ilayaraja.Ilayraja has already sold the rights to different companies (representing different Geographical regions)
Once such company is this :-(agi music )
http://www.galatta.com/tamil/news/agi-music-acquires-rights- of-ilayarajas-works/34220/
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 02:01 pm:       


Asdf:




IR was guitar or some instrument player in SPB troupe
He learnt almost all instruments out of a interest
SPB pushed him to next stage :-)
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 02:00 pm:       


Ferrari:

chaala songs lo same music repeat chesadu




u get that feeling because he used similar ragas for most of his compositions. sivaranjani, udaya ravichandrika, kalyani lanti ragalu ekkuva gaa vadevaru IR.

that goes back to music director's taste as well. For instance, KRR loves hamsa nandi ragam and u see that being repeated in many of his movies: kila kila (pelli sandadi), andama (allari priyudu), vasantam laa (muddula priyudu), muddimmandi oo chamanti (allari mogudu)
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 01:57 pm:       


Uno:

And this third party generally overseas them and sells the performance rights if some one wants to perform on stage




First SPB post lo eti rasado chadivaraa

Couple of days back, an Attorney representing Shri.Iliaya Raja, sent legal notices to me, Smt.Chithra, Charan,
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 01:57 pm:       


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Elantivi chestharu kaani almost life dream ayina gc's cancel cheyithaa ante ..




Aa rm gadedo success nethiki ekki vagadu..picha lite...movie bavunte choostamu..lekapote lite...industry lo veediki 100 times talented vacharu fade ayaru..veedem topu kaadu...ayina ee decades plus survive ayina ee legends tho aa toppas ni enduku lagadam madyalo...
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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 01:56 pm:       


Raman:

spb troup lo guitarist ga chrchukunnadu raja talent ni gurtinchi then the ilairaja phenomenon happened ..




seriously? wow, telidu till now
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 01:55 pm:       

IR gadu meedha unna respect taggindi..
Ayina when you are making money with concerts spb lanti vallaki permission teeskunte manchide..
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 01:54 pm:       

Ee booasia gadi balupu ke 91 lo balachandar deva, keeravani, ar rahman ni okesaei introeuce chesadu...rest is history...dalapathi lanti snsational blockbuster ichina next year ki cheti lo movies levu...veedi balupu manaki kotha kanee tamilollaki kaadu..anduke appude tokki padesaru...evadu dekadu veedini akkada...ado frustration...
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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 01:53 pm:       


Ferrari:

adhe mana ARR teesukunte repetition undadam chaala rare..over to Nanigadu bro..




Let's keep this thread for Ilaya-SPB :-)
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 01:51 pm:       


Stellar:




Aa kondariki ye brokka teleedu ani naa abhiprayam...manollu em chesina low profile...vallu em chesina athi...daniki manollu agenda licking..anthe..eesari ir program ki spb notice pampali..adukku tini potadu musti vdhava...motham album lo anni songs single handed ga hit chesina spb meeda edupentra babu...sp lekunda ir ki oka 100 hit songs vundavu...sp ki vere muwic directors tho 10000 hit wongs vuntayi...adi sp range..
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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 01:50 pm:       


Maverick:




Poddunna chusanu, pathetic situation
Iddariki edho antharyuddham jarugutha vundhi for sure
Chitra ki kuda pampadam gamanarham
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 01:49 pm:       


Raman:

spb troup lo guitarist ga chrchukunnadu raja talent ni gurtinchi then the ilairaja phenomenon happened ..




idi kuda vunda? dentlo anna dookali ayithe spb
 

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Twotown:




 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 01:48 pm:       


Uno:




Ledu bro..konnalla kindate tana songs andaru free ga vinestunnaru radios ilanti stage shows lo tv shows lo ani edichadu..edo chadastam anukonna...oka ilayaraja official app kooda dimpaeu paid version...inka teesukondamu anukonna...ee lk sambar galla athi ki paisa ivvadam kooda brokka...
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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 01:48 pm:       


Ilovemovies:

alage aa sambar kooda tagadam maneyi...




music and sambar synonyms ani kondari abhiprayam.
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 01:48 pm:       

spb troup lo guitarist ga chrchukunnadu raja talent ni gurtinchi then the ilairaja phenomenon happened ..

balu lekunte raja radam chala late ayyundedemo
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 01:48 pm:       


Asdf:

ee saari IR concert ki elli, #NotMyComposer placard pattukovali



Elantivi chestharu kaani almost life dream ayina gc's cancel cheyithaa ante ..
Matram siggu lekundaa suffort chestharu ..meeru mararu ..
Siggu padandi rajendra's.. cinema naa paruvaa ..
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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 01:47 pm:       

Ir ki mind dobbindi...spb ki notices ante anta kanna droham inkoti vundadu..kalisi career start chesaru...iddaru kalisi music nerchukonnaru ani chepparu...spb antha licking chesakq kooda ala cheyadam darunam...mandu leni rogam vachi potadu...i hate ilayaraja...

Sp..ippatikanna sontha manushula value gurtu pettuko...pakkintodini nakite legend ayipovu...ir ki amma mogudunlanti music dirs vunnaru india lo...ooka lo eeka...nee talnet tho okka r song lekunda program ni super hit cheyi..alage aa sambar kooda tagadam maneyi...health ki manchidi...
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ee saari IR concert ki elli, #NotMyComposer placard pattukovali
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 01:41 pm:       


Abhysg:

IR SPB songs ni kooda vadukonte notice lu ivvali�




copyrights evadiki vuntayi? okasari music kottinaka either producer/music konnadiki kada vundedi
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 01:38 pm:       

addhi baaga ayyindhi sambar licker SPB ki ..IR entha worst na matta nj tour lone ardhamaindhi ..oorlallo archestra teams recording songs teams meedha kooda alage lawsuit eyyamanu edupu Ir gaanni ..thupuk
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 01:38 pm:       

I think creative works meeda Edo copyright laws pettali ani appatlo seetharamsastry garu fight chesta unde...Not sure if this is the same laws IR using...

Ayite kondaru producers oppose chesevallu..Memu dabbulu ichi rayinchukonnam..All is rights maku untay..Not Lyricist.. oka Vela songs annee oka album/book la ochinapudu just sinma kosam vadukonte copyright apply avuddi ani..

Anyway..IR is behaving bad....SPB voice lekunda IR hits levu..Saa matuku..

Must c lekunda only song padite Ela undi untadi?..IR SPB songs ni kooda vadukonte notice lu ivvali​
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 01:37 pm:       

IR koncham head strong..baaga ruchi mariginattunnad overseas concerts ki
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 01:33 pm:       

I don't think Ilayaraja has anything to do with the notice directly
Ilayaraja may have sold the public performance copy rights to a third party.And this third party generally overseas them and sells the performance rights if some one wants to perform on stage
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 01:25 pm:       

thokkaley... youtube nunchi kuda teeseyamanandi.. illi evaro next gen ki teliyadu...

worst behaviour....

illi side nyayam undi.. composer has legal rights.. and SP cannot use it to make money... when Illi is also doing same tours to make money on his songs...

But but but... arent songs part of Producer's right than Illi's rights?
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 01:24 pm:       

last 2 weeks nunchi flight journeys lo ekkuvaga IR songs vinttuna...chaala songs lo same music repeat chesadu..mari legend ela ayyado endho..charitra lo gurthundi poye songs baane kottadu kaani music repeat chesthe he is equal to saavu dappu thaman...adhe mana ARR teesukunte repetition undadam chaala rare..over to Nanigadu bro..
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 01:23 pm:       

mani sarma too put this rule to his past/current compound singers that they should NOT sing his compositions in their US concerts. singers should only sing mani's compositions when they accompany mani in his concerts.

Anduke hemachandra, sravana bhargavi, geetha madhuri, malavika, karunya did not sing mani's songs in their own concerts. again this was when they were singing for mani sarma continuously in films. now that they are no longer in his group, the rule does not apply to them.
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 01:22 pm:       

Some 2 yrs back kuda edho cinemalo song use chesukunnadu ani shankar ki notice lu pamparu.... actual ga aa audio company tho permission techukuntaaru... but ilayaraja insists upon permission from him... appati nunchi baga taggincharu paatha ilayaraja songs vaadatam cinemallo...
 

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adeti iddaru close buddies kada. edo godava padinatlunnaru
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 01:14 pm:       

Very bad on part of Ilayaraja to do this. Personal gaa chaala chaala nasty person IR.

I heard a story from a senior music director about IR's interaction with an inform young music director 2 years ago. That music director introduced his bava to IR.

Bava: Sir, nenu mee pedda fan ni. UK lo work chestanu andi.
IR: daaniki nannu em cheyamantavu
Bava:

To salvage the issue, the music director pulled out his latest CD

MD: sir, i composed this new album. meeru songs vinandi.
IR: Vini em cheyali; dance cheyamantava?
MD:

As much as they respect IR's music, most musicians bootulu tidataru IR ni for his personal behavior.
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 01:00 pm:       

:-(

idaru legends..
Chiru,Veturi,SPB,Ilayaraja,Jandhyala,Vamsi,K Viswanath,Sachin
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 12:59 pm:       

avuna. em vachhindi illy ki
Desam Meesam Thippudam - Balayya
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 12:56 pm:       

edo godava valla ayyuntaadile.....daaniki tamil telugu endi......there is no one like Ilayaraja
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 12:55 pm:       

very bad, instead they could have just contacted spb directly. ila legal notices pampatam worst
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 12:53 pm:       

Dear all, Greetings from US. Had great shows in Seattle and LA last weekend. Grateful for the love you all showered upon us and the profesdional way the organizers conducted the shows.
Couple of days back, an Attorney representing Shri.Iliaya Raja, sent legal notices to me, Smt.Chithra, Charan, organisers of the concerts in different cities and the managements of all the venues, which says that we are not supposed to perform compositions of Shri.Iliayaraja without his permission, if so, it is breaking the copyright law and have to pay huge financial penalities and face legal action. Let me say, I am ignorant of these legalities.
My Son designed this world tour and wekick started this SPB50 conncert tour in August in Toranto, then we performed in Russia, Srilanka, Malaysia, Singapore, Dubai and did lots of shows in India too. I did not get any feelers from Shri. Raja's office at that time. I dont know why now when we started our US tour. As I said earlier, I am ignorant of the law. If it is a law, so be it and I obey it.
In these circumstances, our troupe can not perform Isaijnani's compositions from to day. But the show should happen.By God's grace I have sung lots of other composer's songs too which we will present. Hope you all will bless our concerts as usual.
I am always grateful for your love and affection.

I only request you all not to have any harsh opinions and discussions regarding this. If this is the design of God, I obey it with reverence.
Sarvejanah Sukhinobhavanthu.
Happy Vizag
 

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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 12:51 pm:       

SPB USA touring lo Ilayaraja songs padinanduku Ilayaraja lawyer copy right infringement notices pamparu for SPB chitra etc..Good riddance to sambar licking SPB and shame on Ilayaraja.. Your songs are hit because of dinners Aldi.. You didn't do just instrumental
Happy Vizag

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