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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 08:39 pm:      

A super successful businessman...even more rich than the Drumpf..calling the con man on his face...PRICELESS...bloomberg sweeps the DNC floor with orangutans hair.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 08:38 pm:      

I am a New Yorker and I know a con-man when I see one

 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 08:37 pm:      

on Voting day, it is kept so secret, while we are voting
why these common people, who are not cheerleaders of R or D party, come public and disclose which party they are voting?
I am not only talking about bloomberg, but other hollywood janatha and others
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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 08:37 pm:      

Contractors who felt cheated. Ippudu young girls ni kooda cheating ki dhigadu (USA freedom kids)
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 08:34 pm:      

I always wanted Bloomberg to run. Hopefully he does in future.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 08:30 pm:      

Mohd Reed kurrodu kooda speech iraga dheesthunnaadu
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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 08:29 pm:      

I'm guessing Joe hasn't been back to Scranton lately. His hometown has been decimated by the coal industry shutting down and offshoring of manufacturing jobs.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 08:28 pm:      


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Of course Great energy today - Good going Joe Biden !




middle class Joe literally trampled on Drumpf....Joe tatha ni suss I don't like him ahi yevadu seppaledanukuntunna....tatha rocks.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 08:23 pm:      

Biden speech too good
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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 08:23 pm:      


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Of course :-) Great energy today - Good going Joe Biden !

The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 08:22 pm:      


Telugu_times:

He has no clue what makes America great
He has no clue, Period.




Chimpestunnadu as far as points are concerned
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 08:21 pm:      


Joe Biden on Don T:



He has no clue what makes America great
He has no clue, Period.

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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 08:20 pm:      

anadru eede vunnara.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 08:02 pm:      


Abhysg:

bernie supporters bamma ki sukkal soopistaru anukonta..


you were right!! Panetta speech lo anti war chants chesaeu but panetta was able to control the crowd soon.. Panetta speech was powerful.. Stadium Motham USA chants towards end of speech!!
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 07:57 pm:      


Anand_n:




Sorry Jill Biden :-)

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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 07:56 pm:      

Panetta was awesome ! Joe Biden up ..

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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 07:51 pm:      

waammo, Panetta kurrodu 78 years anta
looks much younger, like 65 or so
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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 07:48 pm:      

Rear Admiral Hutson did not mince words did he ? "Donald, you are not fit to polish McCain's boots"

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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 07:47 pm:      

Leon Panetta worked under 9 presidents anta
wow
Bill C time lo, regular gaaa tv lo kanapaday vaadu
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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 07:43 pm:      


Rocketk2:

Nice.. Make some noise so you get on camera


Never mind. I thought you were attending stadium.. I forgot it closed for public
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 07:40 pm:      


Rgb:

to watch any convention live for first time today - For Bloomberg and Obama


Nice.. Make some noise so you get on camera :-)
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 07:37 pm:      


Rgb:




Have fun :-)

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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 07:37 pm:      

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcb_VzvM3Vw

trump live...packed house
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 07:35 pm:      


Rgb:

Overall supposed to be National Security - or thats what they said on radio in the morning


it's law and order , national security.
Ex-CIA director panetta is on the list of the speakers today..
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 07:33 pm:      

"Perhaps one day the source or sources will step forward and that might be an interesting moment some people may have egg on their faces. But to exclude certain actors is to make it easier to find out who our sources are," Assange
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 07:31 pm:      

wikileaks just released dnc voice calls of corrupt practices
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 07:29 pm:      


Abhysg:

bernie supporters bamma ki sukkal soopistaru anukonta..


most of them will back Hillary but there will be few holdouts. They probably left philly by now.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 07:28 pm:      


Anand_n:

Theme so far today is Gun control!




Overall supposed to be National Security - or thats what they said on radio in the morning
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 07:27 pm:      


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Going to watch any convention live for first time today - For Bloomberg and Obama
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 07:27 pm:      


Telugu_times:

india, pakistan, banglaesh, srilanka, phillipines....list goes on
ki ki




Allandaru politicians relatives ega. That doesnt show anything. Of course Hillary belongs to same category

Womens position is much better in US, but there is still some reluctance to elect women
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 07:26 pm:      

Tim kaine, Bloomberg, Biden and Obama comming next. Pretty packed up night !!!
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 07:26 pm:      


Abhysg:

bernie supporters bamma ki sukkal soopistaru anukonta..


edisaru beggar naa konde lu free loaders
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 07:23 pm:      

bernie supporters bamma ki sukkal soopistaru anukonta..
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 07:20 pm:      

strong women get things done anta, cut chesthey no woman president till date
india, pakistan, banglaesh, srilanka, phillipines....list goes on
ki ki
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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 07:16 pm:      


Anand_n:

The mom of Orlando victim put it heartbreakingly it takes 5 mins for ay church bell to ring 49 times - for the 49 full lives lost



Mix of Islam and Gun Nuts
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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 06:57 pm:      


Telugu_times:




Theme so far today is Gun control!

The mom of Orlando victim put it heartbreakingly it takes 5 mins for ay church bell to ring 49 times - for the 49 full lives lost

The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 06:50 pm:      


Telugu_times:

These R and D conventions...what time it starts and what time it ends?




4.30 pm EST start

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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 03:34 pm:      


Telugu_times:

These R and D conventions...what time it starts and what time it ends?




usually 7 est to 11 or 11.30 est...
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 03:33 pm:      

These R and D conventions...what time it starts and what time it ends?
Pagalanthaa shopping and thindi naa?
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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 09:33 am:      

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jogUNIirv4U

#NEVERHILLARY: Thousands of Pissed off People Crash the DNC, Boo Every Time They Hear "Hillary"-video
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 09:07 am:      


Awara1984:

Is this true?


It's true, similar to Trump university scandal. u will say it's no big deal if it's ur candidate vs. it's a big deal if it's the opponent
Some things don't change. the rest are useless
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 08:51 am:      

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/07/27/poll-los- angeles-times-usc-dornsife-trump-47-clinton-40/

Latest poll: L.A. Times/USC Dornsife Poll: Trump 47%, Clinton 40%
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 06:49 am:      


Awara1984:

Is this true?




nijam ayithe clinton governor,president elecs appudu fire avvakunda, silence chesina hillary meeda tweeting aa?:D
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 06:41 am:      


Rocketk2:

He still got it. He made a very fired up bold speech.
He started making case for her while giving their story




Yes he did good yesterday. Since 2008 campaign he has been nothing but a negative for Hillary by involving himself in unnecessary skirmishes. Hope that he has learned his lesson
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 06:37 am:      

A Vote for Trump is a Vote for Our Kids

He'll make the world safer for children, says this noted pediatrician and mom of four


http://www.lifezette.com/momzette/a-vote-for-trump-is-a-vote -for-our-kids/
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 06:12 am:      

http://nytimes.com/2016/07/28/upshot/donald-trumps-path-what -map-should-democrats-fear-the-most.html

Looks like TRUMP has has got more chances of winning swing states.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 06:07 am:      


Awara1984:

Is this true?




may be or may not be. ilati cases lo evarni nammalemu.
fire aithe roger ailes annatlu, legend aithe husband of hillary annatlu
Sesani lo inta hater dagi unada malli neetulu baga chebutadu, lol - Gotcha
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 03:29 am:      

Is this true?

Juanita Broaddrick â@atensnut Jan 6

I was 35 years old when Bill Clinton, Ark. Attorney General raped me and Hillary tried to silence me. I am now 73....it never goes away.
40,278 retweets 26,804 likes
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - 12:32 am:      


Anand_n:

between trump and his fans , this election has been a comedy show gone wrong


between liary and her fans, this election is a disaster for liberty. you can kiss all democratic systems goodbye
Some things don't change. the rest are useless
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 10:46 pm:      

what a masterful speech. probably touched most of the important states, public and private events, and humanized the droid.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 10:42 pm:      

Having impeached once and have a major scandal tied to him, he sure has the grace among public. Your work and achievements stand up more on the long run
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 10:12 pm:      


Anand_n:

y well woven narrative of a life spent in various forms of public service ... Like her or hate her , there is no denying her contributions over the decades!


and for people who has been following her since mid nineties this is not suprising. It is easy to call her Bill's wife but she has been a lot more than that.
The last 3 mins is classic bill. ' 'the only option is to create a cartoon , a cartoon alternative and run against cartoon. Cartoons are two dimensional easy to absorb. Life in real world is complicated .. Real change is hard and and lot people think is even boring"
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 10:00 pm:      


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That's what Bill has always been good at - story telling, great orators have a knack for their layering of narratives..moving from personal to professional to national at ease..}

True ! Very well woven narrative of a life spent in various forms of public service ... Like her or hate her , there is no denying her contributions over the decades!

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 09:56 pm:      


Cool_indian:

Amazing speech...he is great speaker.




The speech was very boring.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 09:54 pm:      

He did in 2012 turned around for Obama
He did again today
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 09:53 pm:      

He still got it. He made a very fired up bold speech.
He started making case for her while giving their story
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 09:52 pm:      

Amazing speech...he is great speaker.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 09:51 pm:      


Saarang:




https://www.google.com/search?q=hillary+donald+and+bill&biw= 1440&bih=750&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjp36_v0ZLO AhXK3YMKHTGTCbEQ_AUIBygC#imgrc=bsiFd3gomh0IiM%3A

hillary. and bill .kiki
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 09:50 pm:      

What a boring and disastrous speech..

TRUMP 2016 amma..get ready
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 09:44 pm:      

https://twitter.com/DanAmira/status/758129396251230212

 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 09:42 pm:      

Bill was the FIRST ever President to NOT release his personal Medical Records.....due to numerous STD's and his nose being rebuilt from Cocaine abuse.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 09:41 pm:      

he apparently wrote the entire speech himself. It is not speech. He is narrating their real story and people that don't know Hillary can pick up few things
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 09:41 pm:      

w house ni w(horeee) house gaa marchina kurradi kathalu vintunte kwamidy gaa undi....

btw protests in dnc convention..kiki
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 09:40 pm:      


Anand_n:

Agree-Bill is doing a great job narrating Hillary's body of work over the years!




That's what Bill has always been good at - story telling, great orators have a knack for their layering of narratives..moving from personal to professional to national at ease..
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 09:38 pm:      

Michelle will be President in 2024
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 09:37 pm:      

omg who gives a about any of this ????
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 09:32 pm:      


Rocketk2:




Agree-Bill is doing a great job narrating Hillary's body of work over the years!

The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 09:29 pm:      

This is not really an endorsement

More like a load of time filling bullshit
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 09:17 pm:      

Bill is giving a very good story of Hillary. Explained her shift from conservative to liberal
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 09:11 pm:      

Oval Office buthu kurrodu, as usual pitta katha tho start chesaadu
ki ki
Ignore spam and AJ.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 08:59 pm:      


Gringo:




Lol :-) you crack me up - between trump and his fans , this election has been a comedy show gone wrong !

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 06:39 pm:      

Any day Trump is better than Hillary. If you dont want Indian companies taking over your fte jobs then vote for Trump.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 06:35 pm:      


Discoveringself:

Hillary ki support cheyyakapothey ee chance undedemo.......he is totally against wall street.............she is the darling of wall street.......and minted cash in not so very honest ways..........almost all dubious ways......

Can't understand how Bernie cud support Hillary.........she is embodiment of everything he is against........




in his mind/opinion hillary is 100 times better than trump...he knows trump is going to oppose min wage increase , college tutuion issue which are close to his heart...anthe
choosing the lesser of two evils imho...2 cents
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 06:16 pm:      


Rocketk2:

may be as a colleague for 20+ years he knows her better than most of the 'judge, jury and executioners' here.




Mainly execution.Almost a lynch mob :-)
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 06:11 pm:      


Discoveringself:




Wall set connections tappa, their policies are pretty similar.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 06:05 pm:      


Discoveringself:

Can't understand how Bernie cud support Hillary.........she is embodiment of everything he is against........


may be as a colleague for 20+ years he knows her better than most of the 'judge, jury and executioners' here.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 05:45 pm:      

'right oka ganta koochuni huffpo, mother jones and other papers choosa. I already know their angle, tried reading readers comments

F off bamma and dnc. playing so underhanded game, even lalu yadav will be like no.... Russia leak chesindi, wikileaks and assange are conspirating ani pushing like hell. Most public though is strongly rejecting the idea which shows me there's still hope for democracy in public. although bamma win ayithe, all traces wiped out. dem backers must be proud supporting such a heartless stone cold despot. Congrats
Some things don't change. the rest are useless
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 05:36 pm:      

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/schedule

trump packed schedule
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 05:33 pm:      


Ipc302:

u wont see a simple and honest politician in american polictics...




Hillary ki support cheyyakapothey ee chance undedemo.......he is totally against wall street.............she is the darling of wall street.......and minted cash in not so very honest ways..........almost all dubious ways......

Can't understand how Bernie cud support Hillary.........she is embodiment of everything he is against........
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 05:30 pm:      

trump at vfw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJFC6xysLM4
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 05:20 pm:      

https://www.instagram.com/p/BIVl0JHDO2G/
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 05:19 pm:      

Donald J. Trump â@realDonaldTrump 3h3 hours ago
The invention of email has proven to be a very bad thing for Crooked Hillary in that it has proven her to be both incompetent and a liar!
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 05:13 pm:      


Happyguy415:

what does this mean annai?
Hillary kadaa nominee?


each state presents the winner of their primary as nominee and Bernie won hawaii
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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 04:51 pm:      


Ipc302:

she introduced bernie sanders for democratic nominee for the president of USA




what does this mean annai?
Hillary kadaa nominee?
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 04:28 pm:      

I love the roll calls in the conventions. For some reason they are very exiting
Every one talking so proudly about thier states
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 04:08 pm:      


Andhravodu:

meeku ala anipistundi. normal public ki, standards lekapote, trump sahinchadu, annee correct ga choostadu ani impression kosam vesadu aa dialog




 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 04:05 pm:      

bernie on screen...happy as a kid when the vermont delegate is speaking...u wont see a simple and honest politician in american polictics...

i am so proud of bernie...indeed we are
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 04:01 pm:      


Guriginja:

ac saalakapothe dimak vunnod first matladathadu...anthe kaani live tv lo nen bill kattaaa ani damki isthara....ila painter ki yega denkalani chusthene court G meedha kotti katra bose dk ani seppindhi....lol


meeku ala anipistundi. normal public ki, standards lekapote, trump sahinchadu, annee correct ga choostadu ani impression kosam vesadu aa dialog
Some things don't change. the rest are useless
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 04:00 pm:      

Tulsi Gabbard quoting Gandhi Taatha on the stage...roll call anukunta
she introduced bernie sanders for democratic nominee for the president of USA...janalu chiru first day first show laa arupulu kekalu
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 03:57 pm:      

between..yentha takkuva saduvukunte antha yekkuvaga drump dappu kodathar antagaaa....I love poorly educated ani davirect gane annadu Drumpf gaadu...

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/trump-overwhelmingly-lea ds-rivals-in-support-from-less-educated-americans/


 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 03:55 pm:      


Gringo:

Meeting la air conditioner pani cheyyakapothe its contractor problem not trump's problem. Thousands of people ki cool air provide jeyyali anna common sense leni howla ganiki paisal enduku iyyali ? No wonder mi leader gadu $20 trillion appu jesi denkesthundu few months la..chor chor chor




ac saalakapothe dimak vunnod first matladathadu...anthe kaani live tv lo nen bill kattaaa ani damki isthara....ila painter ki yega denkalani chusthene court G meedha kotti katra bose dk ani seppindhi....lol
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 03:46 pm:      

https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CoQr24jUkAAzQtf.mp4
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 03:40 pm:      


Gringo:

Meeting la air conditioner pani cheyyakapothe its contractor problem not trump's problem.


this is the point right. We don't know what is true and what is false. These get fed to us constantly . Over the time they take their own life .

This True for most of the people who stay in public life and scrutinized for every act they do. We have to decide on the facts based on circumstantial evidences.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 03:35 pm:      


Guriginja:




happy ga feel ainaanu ani naa vuddesam:D
Sesani lo inta hater dagi unada malli neetulu baga chebutadu, lol - Gotcha
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 03:29 pm:      

Meeting la air conditioner pani cheyyakapothe its contractor problem not trump's problem. Thousands of people ki cool air provide jeyyali anna common sense leni howla ganiki paisal enduku iyyali ? No wonder mi leader gadu $20 trillion appu jesi denkesthundu few months la..chor chor chor
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 03:23 pm:      


Asdf:




oke vuru manam manma barampuram sinnodivi ani koncham sanuvu teesukunna le saami...nothing more...feel kaaku.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 03:19 pm:      


Guriginja:

lawyer saab




thx annai, ee poota oka meal cut chesi dinner matrame tintaa
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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 03:16 pm:      


Asdf:


If he is doing anything illegal, sattam will do its work no?




lawyer saab why getting into legalities..who said it is illegal....legal ga dabbulega denke vadiki idoka lekka....full ga vaadukoni last lo yegottadaniki sollu seppe sillar sitaak yebrasi nayallu low lives kaaka inkemiti....all I said is little whiny biatch...no way presidential ani.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 03:10 pm:      


Guriginja:

.whining..whining whining and threatening to not pay bills..




If he is doing anything illegal, sattam will do its work no?
Sesani lo inta hater dagi unada malli neetulu baga chebutadu, lol - Gotcha
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 03:08 pm:      

In Bill Maher words...here goes the whiny little biatch again ...whining..whining whining and threatening to not pay bills...yemi sigguleni bathukura ayya.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-air-conditi oning_us_5797754ee4b0d3568f8485e4?section=
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 12:45 pm:      

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/poll-trump-ayotte-up-early -in-nh/article/2597736

NH to become red state in November.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 12:34 pm:      


Asdf:


link dorikindi

https://youtube.com/watch?v=7LYRUOd_QoM
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 12:33 pm:      


Gringo:

#ClintonCash trending anta..

http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2016/07/26/clinton-ca sh-dominates-1-on-facebook-during-democratic-national-conven tion/


Eval daggara movie link unte pettandi




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=td2pyyCau30



.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 12:32 pm:      


Asdf:

gist seppu annai. money laundering aa? gattiga amar singh ni naalugu kummithe edaina dorakachu




The video categorically documents coincidences between Hillarys meetings with government leaders, and Bill Clintons speeches, for which he is paid between $200G and $750G per speech.

Documents the people who benefit from Hillarys time during the State Department.

Lots of mining oligarchs and textile factory owners, who are close friends with the Clintons, have made billions in revenue.

The documentary goes into detail how a large donation to the Clinton Global Initiative will lead to favorable actions by the State Department during Hillarys tenure.
 

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Gringo:

#ClintonCash trending anta..




gist seppu annai. money laundering aa? gattiga amar singh ni naalugu kummithe edaina dorakachu :D
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#ClintonCash trending anta..

http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2016/07/26/clinton-ca sh-dominates-1-on-facebook-during-democratic-national-conven tion/


Eval daggara movie link unte pettandi
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 12:16 pm:      

Ee essays enna cheta...Sesani brief cheyyalsindhe :-)
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 12:11 pm:      


Rocketk2:

But do you still have issue with what I said regarding clearing logjam in 2007/2008




annai,
deeniki contemporary kaalam lO emi jarugutundo krinda cheppaanu choodandi annai.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 12:10 pm:      


Ipc302:

report card lo A esthamu ...u brought a very passionate disco on this topic....eppudu gaint wheel theds esi sampesthunnaru...




\chiru_siggu_pade_icon
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 12:10 pm:      


Andhravodu:

This is a different challenge


the current Gc challenge is all ok. I get it

But do you still have issue with what I said regarding clearing logjam in 2007/2008. Because GC was taking lesser time than you explained during those years
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 11:58 am:      


Happyguy415:


That's the whole point behind my lengthy post. I spent 1.5 hours to write that post.



report card lo A esthamu ...u brought a very passionate disco on this topic....eppudu gaint wheel theds esi sampesthunnaru...
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 11:46 am:      


Rocketk2:

I don't understand how this is intentional sabotage unless he gains something from this. What does he gain by intentionally affecting legal immigrants. This may be more inefficiency than intentional sabotage.



I have no idea annai. That is what surprises us. I told you the series of steps/difficulties he put in place. and the Sabotage details too in that long post.



Rocketk2:

In my assessment of Hillary, I will add this as a negative point!!



mee laanti passionate supports aameni ee vishayamu lO prasninchaali annai.

The more people do that - the sooner good days will come in this context.

That's the whole point behind my lengthy post. I spent 1.5 hours to write that post.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 11:42 am:      


Happyguy415:

difference. This is intentional sabotage by O.


I don't understand how this is intentional sabotage unless he gains something from this. What does he gain by intentionally affecting legal immigrants. This may be more inefficiency than intentional sabotage.

However, you are more curent and knowledgable about the issue and I will take your point of view.
In my assessment of Hillary, I will add this as a negative point!!
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 11:32 am:      


Rocketk2:




sare annai.

You think I am asking them to assign high priority.
I'm saying - let at least a few things be done - at least those in process or those already proposed. But not happening.

I hope you see the difference. This is intentional sabotage by O.

If you still don't see it. I've no more data points that I can think of now.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 11:29 am:      


Happyguy415:

I was glad to see your reply. But you didn't even say one word against O or H in your reply....even though they are certainly the big culprits the last 8 years.


I addressed few of the points as i understood. I may not have said anything against them but I have not said anything for them also. I was answering the issue as I understood and also mentioned I was out of touch with the issue. Now I understand what you mean by oct 2015. I did not understand when I first read the email.

H1 thing, I may have been misinformed, but I heard it from some one that you can perineally keep extending you visa once you hit 6 yrs if you have green card application on file.. that is not complete solution but they addressed to some extent ani na Vuddesam . Once again my intent was to point out that there were several changes over last few years

I did not even think of Hillary or Obama while answering. I was just reposnding my experiences and knowledge. There is no question both of them sucked in handling this immigration issue. But this will not be top of their priority list (or any other administrations) based on on why I explained in my other posts.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 11:18 am:      


Rocketk2:

if you think of same thing in positive angle, the illegal immigration is impacting about 15million people. The issues we are talking about half a million and that too primarily Indian and Chinese. Vote bank angle lo koncham validity vunna for and American adminstrator which one will be priority !???

Happy tammudu this is not insulting your point. This is called putting things in perspective. Nee place lo nenu vunna same thought process vuntadhi .




Going by ideology - both should be addressed. 500K people (currently stuck - potential total of 1M) are not stones. They are Humans. So their issues should matter too.

Going by practicality
-- accept some kind of legal status to the 15M illegals. That way, their pain points will stop permanently. They'll gradually come into the light. Why insist on Path to Citizenship?
-- at the same time, do not tie lega's issues to illegals. Legals stuck in backlog is harmful to american citizens.

But what is happening? You know it now.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 11:09 am:      


Andhravodu:

why? dems already have asian vote bank in the bag without doing anything. doing something might change it




yes annai
anduke nenu desi voters - why are you not questioning your leaders ani aavEdanatho chesukunna manavi :D (aa pedda post)

I believe there should be paralell tracks for this...

awareness
lobbying
etc etc

this is under awareness :D
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 11:07 am:      


Guriginja:

as we know what H1B means even before coming here




I beg to differ on this annai.
When I was in Desam...I didn't know H1 would be such hell.


Guriginja:

so the only way is to increase activism/ lobby and make our case



We did that, O knows the full extent of problems. Issued EO. Just because DACA/DAPA were on hold, he completely dumped legals. This is blatantly bad behavior on any reference scale.


Guriginja:

numbers matter and PR matters for govts (ye desam ayina) deporation, families disruption, human rights, etc etc and annitikiminchi 12 -13 million numbers will dictate.



Maatala maantrikudu O gaaru. (panilo paniki maalinodu, adi vere vishayam). vaaru taluchukunte he can spin this really well.
And that's the truth - clearing legal backlog will actually help the citizens.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 11:07 am:      


Happyguy415:

Bush thaatha put his foot down and ordered the USCIS to honor the original bulletin.
But O didn't even comment - let alone taking some action


why? dems already have asian vote bank in the bag without doing anything. doing something might change it
Some things don't change. the rest are useless
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 11:03 am:      


Tombrady:

3 am kooda disco cheshtunnara adi omerican politics kosam babu chitti icon



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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 11:03 am:      


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annai,
this is the point of my looooong post.

O administration is already aware of this, the issues - but still acting as if....




bedaru na point adhe...nuvvu cheppedhi correcte..I agree...but the govt might not agree with your argument and you don't have a solid ground to stand and make that argument too (as we know what H1B means even before coming here)...so the only way is to increase activism/ lobby and make our case...nothing to do with dems/ repubs..numbers matter and PR matters for govts (ye desam ayina) deporation, families disruption, human rights, etc etc and annitikiminchi 12 -13 million numbers will dictate.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 11:02 am:      


Anand_n:

Your pain points are valid...But what has Trump proposed that makes you think these issues will be solved by him ?




a reply I gave in the other thread


quote:


I'm not a Trump supporter annai. At the same time, I hate the votebank politics that are being played at the altar of ideology by DNC.

I've no voting right here - so mundu nuyyi, venaka goyyi.

The only silver lining -- Trump says he will review the entire H1B policy. That is a great thing. H1B in its current form is full of loopholes. Tons of them. Starting from H4s to a lot of other issues...details already raatri kashtapadi, sODaa koodaa taaga kundaa raasaa ;)

But supporting H1B or even continuing H1B in its current form is a bad thing for not just those that are here...but those that are coming every year.


 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 11:01 am:      


Rocketk2:

the only reason I stayed back is happyguy tammudu has posted a very long email detailing the facts. I felt responsible to atleast reply back to him. More than politics, I felt it was courteous to reply him but he took offense in my response.
Unfortunately, written media lo real feeling express avavu and anonymous world lo we don't know the real person. So Sometimes things come out as not intended




annai,
meeru annattugaa meeku nenu, naaku meeru vyaktigatamgaa teliyadu.

I was glad to see your reply. But you didn't even say one word against O or H in your reply....even though they are certainly the big culprits the last 8 years.

And I'm clarifying again - H1B automatic extensions after 6 years emi levu. avi inthaku mundu levi, ippudu levu.

USCIS screwed us royally - but their bosses be it Sec of Homeland or O himself -- didn't chide them. Didn't correct their path.

If an employee is erring (not once, not twice, but) continuously - I certainly blame the lead - in this case O administration
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 10:57 am:      


Happyguy415:




Your pain points are valid...But what has Trump proposed that makes you think these issues will be solved by him ?

The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 10:56 am:      


Rocketk2:

Both times when they did this back logs were beyond control.




Annai,
that was exactly what the Oct, 2015 visa bulletin (Please note that Visa bulletin is released by Department of State) was. To ease the pain a little.

But USCIS (which comes under DHS) forced DoS to revert this bulletin.

In 2007 - when bulletin was issued, and then reverted - Bush thaatha put his foot down and ordered the USCIS to honor the original bulletin.
But O didn't even comment - let alone taking some action.

Please see the difference here. In 2007, the bulletin was a mistake.
In 2015 the bulletin was intentional, according to the EO.

Still in the former case, Bush supported the plight of people.
In the latter case, O didn't even care.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 10:52 am:      


Guriginja:

everyone is following the system and everything is flowing smoothly (in the prespective of american govt. politician)




annai,
this is the point of my looooong post.

O administration is already aware of this, the issues - but still acting as if....
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 10:50 am:      


Rocketk2:

so ead vasthe problem ekkada . You get work permit . You can change jobs after 6 months.
I did both. I was on Ead for 2.5 years ?!! Isn't that considered clearing the queue.



a new person who applies in eb2 India now, will get around 1.5yrs to clear 140 and has to wait for something like 7yrs to get EAD and then 4-5years more to get gc, if they're lucky. and then, there's the requirement of maintaining continuous employment, so essentially if the company choses to terminate because of any reason, you're in the market again with million other job seekers without the luxury of time. not for 2.5/5years but >12yrs. This is a different challenge
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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 10:49 am:      


Happyguy415:

This is not crying annai.
This is called calling a spade a spade. Stating Facts.
Showing this for what they are -- which are votebank politics at the cost of ideology and liberal values.

So please don't say that they are liberal and they have values. You or anyone (including me) can support all they(we) want. But claiming them to be good samaritans/leaders is wrong



immigration vishayam lo gobemma is the worrest...chinna bush gaadu better
monna Vox interview lo kooda hillary was very evasive on H1b issue
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 10:48 am:      


Guriginja:

they look at what is better for their country.....illegal immigration is a complex problem...just illegal ani teesipareytalam..there are kids/american citizens invloved, disrupting families etc...so maa hakku ani h1b or any visa meedha beyond what was promised demand seyadam is no different from demands by illegal immigrants.




I provided detailed example/explanation as to how "legal immi backlog" is actually detrimental to Americans.

Legal Immis also have kids, etc. What if one loses job? They are out of status immediately? So they've to leave?

Come on annai
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 10:43 am:      


Ipc302:

if DNS/HRC want to gain they will court illegal immigration and not legal...no use crying on this




This is not crying annai.
This is called calling a spade a spade. Stating Facts.
Showing this for what they are -- which are votebank politics at the cost of ideology and liberal values.

So please don't say that they are liberal and they have values. You or anyone (including me) can support all they(we) want. But claiming them to be good samaritans/leaders is wrong
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 10:18 am:      


Ipc302:

H1b ki bandh cheyyankunda manam iche lancham type yavvaram adhi..




H1 bandh cheyatam antoo vundadu. but they may bring a rule like - employee count lo min intha mandi citizens vundali etc ani.
apudu mana desi consultancies em sestaru anukuntunnav? payroll meeda 10 mandi desi uncles ni pedithe sari :D
Sesani lo inta hater dagi unada malli neetulu baga chebutadu, lol - Gotcha
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 10:17 am:      


Andhravodu:

rest got ead's at best. clearly, both you and your cousin are the lucky ones


so ead vasthe problem ekkada . You get work permit . You can change jobs after 6 months.
I did both. I was on Ead for 2.5 years ?!! Isn't that considered clearing the queue.

Both times when they did this back logs were beyond control.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 10:15 am:      

http://politicalticker.com

Trump leading by 9 points
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 10:15 am:      


Asdf:

adi diff issue annai. am talking about how the increased H1B fee is not used for improving the processing speed, but for something else , on our face



em chestham ....H1b ki bandh cheyyankunda manam iche lancham type yavvaram adhi...yeah too much delay..inka nov dec 2015H1B applivantions clear avuthunnayi ani lawyer briefed me.....
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 10:13 am:      


Tombrady:

3 am kooda disco cheshtunnara adi omerican politics kosam


https://www.xkcd.com/386/
Some things don't change. the rest are useless
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 10:12 am:      


Tombrady:

am kooda disco cheshtunnara adi omerican politics kosam babu chitti icon


the only reason I stayed back is happyguy tammudu has posted a very long email detailing the facts. I felt responsible to atleast reply back to him. More than politics, I felt it was courteous to reply him but he took offense in my response.
Unfortunately, written media lo real feeling express avavu and anonymous world lo we don't know the real person. So Sometimes things come out as not intended
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 10:11 am:      


Ipc302:

its all theatrics..ee paisal aa motham border ni eti help cheyyalevu but senators, govt antha manchi tamil dubbing serial lo OA type action chesthunnayi

One thing i feel - we H1B/F1 people think we are better than illgels but to immigration opponents ( red neck, out of manufacturing jobs whites) antha okkate...they feel everyboody shuld be kicked out to make america great again... we believe that us following rules should make us move to the front of the line but regular Joe feels we are destroying the country taking away jobs..manaki manam king pakkanodiki bongu type




adi diff issue annai. am talking about how the increased H1B fee is not used for improving the processing speed, but for something else , on our face
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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 10:10 am:      


Rocketk2:

What does all dates made current mean


It means they were eligible for applying 485 and adjudication. after applying 485, there is background check and other processes which take a while. country quota still applies. a lucky few got gc's with spillover and all applied, rest got ead's at best. clearly, both you and your cousin are the lucky ones
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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 10:08 am:      


Rocketk2:

I am not denying this. A stronger lobby is required to influence corrective measures and like I mentioned before things got stared couple of times. But they did not sustain. And also as I said in the past letters to senators were effective.

Problem telisina mana lanti valla lack of participation kuda one of the reason!!!




forget participation there is active sabotage to keep GC aspirants tied to the employer/consultant by avar own bedars....inketi septham
it is our narrow minds, pettiness that is not letting us unite to fight for H1b/GC reform

Asdf:

manaki seyakapoyina parledu. illegal gallu dooke border lo security penchaaru. daaniki additional funding was directly from an increased H1 fee afaik



its all theatrics..ee paisal aa motham border ni eti help cheyyalevu but senators, govt antha manchi tamil dubbing serial lo OA type action chesthunnayi

One thing i feel - we H1B/F1 people think we are better than illgels but to immigration opponents ( red neck, out of manufacturing jobs whites) antha okkate...they feel everyboody shuld be kicked out to make america great again... we believe that us following rules should make us move to the front of the line but regular Joe feels we are destroying the country taking away jobs..manaki manam king pakkanodiki bongu type
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 10:05 am:      


Rocketk2:




Yes I do remember the same. We (friends) were discussing that they are timing it so that no one applying for GC gets over the H1B limit

Perhaps his point is that these were just quickfixes and then the dates shifted far back thereby not getting rid of the logjam
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 10:03 am:      


Andhravodu:

logjam mottam clear aipoyinda, inka aapeyi. really controlling hard not to post bemmi gif


what the hell are you talking. Naku telesindhi nenu cheppanu. Neeku different ga telisthe educate me.
Na cousin ki 2006 dec lo apply chesthe by 2008 time frame got the green card in Eb3. What does all dates made current mean.
Nenu personal ga Ee process valla 1999 lo apply chesanu ante .. For 4 months around July to September or October all dates were made current. Every one including the people who applied and got 140 approved were Able to apply for 485. Inthakanna emi proof kavali

Can anyone else reading this acknowledge my facts. I mean I will not be the only one that saw the dates made current 2 times atleast in last few years ! Nn
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 10:00 am:      

3 am kooda disco cheshtunnara adi omerican politics kosam babu chitti icon
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 10:00 am:      


Ipc302:

..mana daggara paisal dnki USCIS kaneesam H1B processing kooda time ki cheyyatledhu




manaki seyakapoyina parledu. illegal gallu dooke border lo security penchaaru. daaniki additional funding was directly from an increased H1 fee afaik
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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 09:56 am:      


Rocketk2:


Problem telisina mana lanti valla lack of participation kuda one of the reason!!!




bingo.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 09:53 am:      


Ipc302:

happu days unkul cheppina daantlo okati mathram true....mana daggara paisal dnki USCIS kaneesam H1B processing kooda time ki cheyyatledhu


I am not denying this. A stronger lobby is required to influence corrective measures and like I mentioned before things got stared couple of times. But they did not sustain. And also as I said in the past letters to senators were effective.

Problem telisina mana lanti valla lack of participation kuda one of the reason!!!
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 09:52 am:      


Rocketk2:

As far as I know all the dates were made curent in 2007/2008. That's when the logjam was cleared last time


2007 logjam mottam clear aipoyinda, inka aapeyi. really controlling hard not to post bemmi gif
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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 09:51 am:      


Rocketk2:

Government lack of efficiency was always there




rethug congress again reason..funding antha cut sesi dobbaru....okadi pani 4guru setthunnar..
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 09:46 am:      


Andhravodu:

ikkada db lone story vachindi, eb3 quota lo candidate from last 20 yrs,


how is this possible. As far as I know all the dates were made curent in 2007/2008. That's when the logjam was cleared last time. This process was done in 1999 when I was directly involved in process.

Sides teesukoni mammalni villains cheyyamakandi . This problem is fairly new ( may be 10 yrs) at most and has extremely smaller impact compared other problem which is ticking time bomb for last 25 years and am has higher impact . Which gets priority ?!!


Changes will not be done overnight . Proves lo unna vallaki frustration vuntadhi. Government lack of efficiency was always there . These kind of issues time and time again were addressed by lobbying.
I disagree with your premise it was made complicated on purpose. It was left complicated as it is not receiving attention.

None of us are saying Obama and HRC excelled in this issue..
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 09:45 am:      


Happyguy415:



annai aripinchav..anthe kaad ee H1b restrictions feehike valla companies stopped hiring people full time on h1s..while shipping from india hasnt stopped..

btw donald trump osthe paristhiti enti annai??
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 09:41 am:      

link missed. Leader posted in this thread

http://www.chalanachithram.com/discus/messages/115/320220.ht ml
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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 09:41 am:      


Rocketk2:



Andhravodu:



happu days unkul cheppina daantlo okati mathram true....mana daggara paisal dnki USCIS kaneesam H1B processing kooda time ki cheyyatledhu and they are making it miserable to even apply, file amedment, transfer ete etc ....free market economy lo paisal icchina vaadiki ivvakunda socialism ni soosithunaru USCIS jaffa gallu....forget giving GCs immediately ,streamline the process and dont make it so cumbersome for H1B/GC applicants...thats not an impossible wish....
rest all mamatha didi bangla immigrants type...ee Rep na kodukulu Saint Reagan unna time lo amnesty iccharu ippudu lolli sesthunnaru
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 09:41 am:      


Guriginja:

clarity ledhu


details ikkada. Leader post
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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 09:37 am:      


Andhravodu:

. ikkada db lone story vachindi, eb3 quota lo candidate from last 20 yrs, and his daughter is 25 something years, married to an American, but cannot sponsor family, as siblings will lose immigration status if that happens.




clarity ledhu (naku artham kaledhu)
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 09:36 am:      


Andhravodu:

but majority contributions istunna legal immigrants ki matram no representation, it's the way of the land anta. baga twisted comedy chestunnavu uncle. btw, legal immigrants have kids and families too.




nijam alane vuntundhi comedy yemundhi...legal immigrants ki families levu ani yevadannadu....what is happening to legal immigrant families? everyone is following the system and everything is flowing smoothly (in the prespective of american govt. politician) why will they be eager to do something there? illegal antava..families dirsuption/ human rights/ activists laccha tombayi vuntayi..politicians are forced to address...don't make it personal ya...look at the problem in through an unbiased spectrum...anthe gaani manaki jaraganidi anyayam..jarigedhe nyayam ante.....H1B pick gani vaadu kuda anukuntadu lathukor govt why should they have a fixed number on h1b, what can't it be unlimitted ani..where do you draw the line?..mari vadi point lo correcte..so correct ayipothundaa...mana sontha desam lo dikkuledhu...manchi rank tecchukuna kuda reservations peru tho seat ivvani govts chese anyayam husthu kuda mera barath mahan ani manalni manam mosam chesukovali....mana govts vere desasathulaki yemi chesthundi..america vere desasthulaki yemi chesthundhi chusthe you have your answer.....naku telisi america is one of the very few desams who treat other desasthulu also equally.
 

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Rocketk2:

the illegal immigration is impacting about 15million people. The issues we are talking about half a million and that too primarily Indian and Chinese


how many amnesties did illegal immigrants have and was there any action as such for legal immigrants? It's purely vote bank politics. jyoti basu and lalu import bangladeshi's into India for vote counts, this is same
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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 09:30 am:      


Ipc302:

vs reward is higher for illegal immigration topic....anduke antha atu vaipe unnaru


if you think of same thing in positive angle, the illegal immigration is impacting about 15million people. The issues we are talking about half a million and that too primarily Indian and Chinese. Vote bank angle lo koncham validity vunna for and American adminstrator which one will be priority !???

Happy tammudu this is not insulting your point. This is called putting things in perspective. Nee place lo nenu vunna same thought process vuntadhi .
 

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Guriginja:

Happydays kurrod avedana lo artham vundhi but ma gurinchi seyadam ledhu..illegal vaallaki setthunnaru ane argument is comedy....Are you getting what you were promised or not anedhi important and I think you are....be frank ga seppalante H1b is a non immigrant visa..govt ni demanding sese daggarikosthe legal and illegal anedhi doesn't matter there as it is the same. mana desam lone demand chese dikku ledhu..ika vere desam lo demand cheyadam yendi vaa....anni vocchesina taruvatha ippudu yennanna seppocchu anocchu..still it is the truth..manaki nacchina nacchakunna...a nd politicians play politics, ye desam ayina...they look at what is better for their country.....illegal immigration is a complex problem...just illegal ani teesipareytalam..there are kids/american citizens invloved, disrupting families etc...so maa hakku ani h1b or any visa meedha beyond what was promised demand seyadam is no different from demands by illegal immigrants.




oh please, what he said is perfectly reasonable. US immigration benefits ani gontu chinchukuntaru to play identity politics, but majority contributions istunna legal immigrants ki matram no representation, it's the way of the land anta. baga twisted comedy chestunnavu uncle. btw, legal immigrants have kids and families too. ikkada db lone story vachindi, eb3 quota lo candidate from last 20 yrs, and his daughter is 25 something years, married to an American, but cannot sponsor family, as siblings will lose immigration status if that happens. complex process my foot, it's complicated on purpose
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Happydays kurrod avedana lo artham vundhi but ma gurinchi seyadam ledhu..illegal vaallaki setthunnaru ane argument is comedy....Are you getting what you were promised or not anedhi important and I think you are....be frank ga seppalante H1b is a non immigrant visa..govt ni demanding sese daggarikosthe legal and illegal anedhi doesn't matter there as it is the same. mana desam lone demand chese dikku ledhu..ika vere desam lo demand cheyadam yendi vaa....anni vocchesina taruvatha ippudu yennanna seppocchu anocchu..still it is the truth..manaki nacchina nacchakunna...a nd politicians play politics, ye desam ayina...they look at what is better for their country.....illegal immigration is a complex problem...just illegal ani teesipareytalam..there are kids/american citizens invloved, disrupting families etc...so maa hakku ani h1b or any visa meedha beyond what was promised demand seyadam is no different from demands by illegal immigrants.
 

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Happyguy415:

P.S.: To add insult to injury, you have also added some things you think "might" be true today....like automatic H1B extensions after 6 years.


tammudu literal ga teesukomaku. Na gurinchi edho prejudice tho proceed avuthunnattu Vunnavu. Remember we had this conversation around 3 am est

Idhi oka party tho solve ayyedhi kadhu, numbers Levu, lobbying required ani clear ga cheppanu. Also indicated I have been out of touch. I don't know why you are attacking me. Noting I said meant to add insult. It was all said in good intent . And I was empathetic to the situation.

I did not respond to just one line. I used that line to say. Us desis are not doing enough to the pain you stated!!!!
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 09:09 am:      


Happyguy415:

What logic is that? Unless it is completely, totally, and entirely about votebank politics?



unkul idhe logic...risk vs reward is higher for illegal immigration topic....anduke antha atu vaipe unnaru
 

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Leol:

Awesome post. Agree with you on all points but I have no expectations on fellow Desis who made it. Instead it's better to focus on organizing people waiting in the queue and lobby.



I rambled away last night but this is what I essentially mean. If there is a significant lobbying effort, people impacted and people sympathetic to the issue will join. I have been with these kind of efforts for few year during formative years . But they mostly fisseled out everytime some corrective measures taken and problem alleviated. Couple of them started strong(isn.org) . I couldn't find them anymore or may be they transformed to something else.

The numbers of this community is too small. Impact is smaller. As the numbers increase you will see up in the effort. If I or people like me see this issue on the radar we will definitely support it as we have lived through.

No matter which party is in power, this issue will not be on the top of list. The most aggressive promise I have seen anyone make in this area was Obama and based on the email that did not result in any action

I do agree that the work visa issues doesn't get enough attention in immigration reform.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 08:53 am:      


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i am completely disappointed with O/HRC/Dems in the matter of legal immigration, H1B and GC process.....they have done nothing in that matter..all these EOs are basically namesake actions to make people thing they are doing something...
legal vs illegal immigration -illegals are more worth with votes or many family members for illegals are voters/potential voters..
manam antha lemu and we will not be the vote bank in the next couple of decades so they are ignoring us...idhi fact
if DNS/HRC want to gain they will court illegal immigration and not legal...no use crying on this
 

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Ipc302:

right now nobody is going to go ahead and help legal H1B people...current environment is very anti-immigrant....once elections are over then companies/people can lobby




LMFAO -- antha anti-immigrant environment lO - what is DNC doing annai?

What did they showcase yesterday? Illegal Immigrants issues.

Anti-Immi env lO Illegals ni touch cheyya vachchu kaani - legals issues ni touch cheyyakoodadaa??
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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 08:43 am:      


Ipc302:

dude aa rocket meedha laxmibomb laaga padathavu entayya...H1B /GC aspirants should do their own work....nobody is going to help this group of people especially the GC holders wont care....yeah it makes no sense to target the unwinnable illegal immigration issue and leave the legal workers in limbo....but thats the name of the game.....right now nobody is going to go ahead and help legal H1B people...current environment is very anti-immigrant....once elections are over then companies/people can lobby




Annai,
I'm trying to state facts. That is all.

entho kashta padite Executive Order lO legal immigrants kashtaalaki konni taatkaalika parishkaaraalu vachchaayi.

avi koodaa implement cheyyaledu.

inkOsaari, inkaa okka saari emiti inka enni saarlu ayinaa, koodaa prayatnaalu saagutoonE vuntaayi. They won't stop.

But without the support of Desi American Citizens, Desi American GCs - none of these efforts will bear fruit. As nobody cares about us.
 

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Leol:

Awesome post. Agree with you on all points but I have no expectations on fellow Desis who made it. Instead it's better to focus on organizing people waiting in the queue and lobby.




Thank you annai.
avannee, meeru, nenu, mana laanti (assuming you're still in this sadistic queue) legal banisala kashtaala lOnundi vachchina maatalu annai.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 08:39 am:      


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dude aa rocket meedha laxmibomb laaga padathavu entayya...H1B /GC aspirants should do their own work....nobody is going to help this group of people especially the GC holders wont care....yeah it makes no sense to target the unwinnable illegal immigration issue and leave the legal workers in limbo....but thats the name of the game.....right now nobody is going to go ahead and help legal H1B people...current environment is very anti-immigrant....once elections are over then companies/people can lobby
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 08:33 am:      


Rocketk2:




annai,
antha pedda post lo idokkate dorikindaa meeru samaadhaanam cheppataaniki?

here I thought you had an open mind to facts.

I actually thought at least when people like you (voters) hear the facts they can at the very least empathize with the legal slaves' situation.... Nope. I guess that was too much to ask for.

You put the entire blame squarely on USCIS and are washing your and also O/HRC/DNC's hands-off the whole gamut of issues.

P.S.: To add insult to injury, you have also added some things you think "might" be true today....like automatic H1B extensions after 6 years.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 08:08 am:      

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Hadoop:



Gringo:




mee lanti hardcore supporters unnanta varaku Trump campaign ki eduru ledu
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Happyguy415:




Awesome post. Agree with you on all points but I have no expectations on fellow Desis who made it. Instead it's better to focus on organizing people waiting in the queue and lobby.

Want to know what the Republican side offers for legal immigrants.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 07:45 am:      


Andhravodu:

btw, general lo odipote, I guess will trump accept the same for him? "All of that work, energy and money, and nothing to show for it! Waste of time"




Trump has been telling this to his supporters in every campaign rally.

Btw wikileak lo found something interesting

https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4788

"Keep the people IGNORANT and Don't let them know about my relationship with Wall Street"
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 03:06 am:      


Happyguy415:

are Desis doing to alleviate the pain of the fellow Desis?


you put me into guilt trap :-). I don't have any argument here is my honest answers to few issues you listed..

We are not doing much to alleviate this pain for fellow desis. I remember being on some immigration email lists, participated in some letters to senators campaign 3 to 4 years after I got my green card but slowly dropped out of That. There is no consistent lobbying effort and my priorities started to change as well .

The uscis is one of the poorly, in fact worst, run organizations in US. They are understaffed and unaccountable . Since the number of people impacted due to this is small, this never gets attention . Also this affects only Indian and Chinese. Unless there is a strong lobby, this issue will not be addressed

Historically, we have seen uscis take measures to clear these backlogs . So I don't think your assessment of 10 yrs for your Gc may be right . What is the maximum you have seen someone wait on green card??

H1b and greencard are two different topics. Earlier if you don't get 140
Approved within in 6 yrs of h1 validity, you had to leave the country and apply consular. But now rules are changed where you cans extend the visa. So that is good change .. Right ?

Comming to politics of this, it's all in numbers . Illegal immigration is affecting 15 million people and the problem you are mentioning has smaller number impacted. So you don't see any discussion at that level. I am not trivializing your(our) pain but I putting it in perspective.

Post 2008 Recession, h1b has come under severe fire. The cases of h1b abuses hit mainstream . So you see more scrutiny. I don't think it has anything to do with party.


I remember Obama recapture of visas, I have not followed up on how it was implemented because I never believed he would be able to do that.

Comprehensive reform includes path to citizenship for legal immigrants also. The details are not clear
i have known people who applied in 2001 and 2006 that got green card in 2008. This is what uscis used to do to clear.

Bottomline, unless there is a strong lobby pushing this issue, this will not get addressed and it will not be on presidents priority list. They have several other things to take care before they hit this. Sadly, that is fact.

Also, if uscis performs their job well most of this problem will go away. So this issue may not even need policy change. During my time, writing letters to local senators used to work.
 

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Andhravodu:

btw, general lo odipote, I guess will trump accept the same for him? "All of that work, energy and money, and nothing to show for it! Waste of time"




he saying in most of his rally before primaries and even after ....if he lost ..it would be waste of his time,effort,money for him and his supporters
 

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Rocketk2:

I am out of touch. Green cards delay avuthunnayi ani telusu Kani not much more. I got my green card in 2001.. 6 yrs after applying. It was a bit of painful journey. I have seen the Gc queue clogged and. Cleared off 3 times.. 1999 2008 and some other time. By cleared off I mean every one was made current. That is how my 140 was cleared (1999). I believe that will happen one more time, if the queue gets full.
So general process telusu. And I know few changes happened after that . This is extent of my knowledge.i don't know how Obama and Hillary are screwing . I am really curious

Why would I not have open mind. Nenu Ee process nunchi vachina vadine




Thanks annai.

At the outset - let me state...It is appropriate for me to post this in this thread. Because I hope this is not just some "scold HRC or elevate HRC" thread, but can also be a policy discussion related thread.

And then it starts...

First things first. I'm in EB2 queue with 2011 priority date. I've no hopes of getting my EAD, in the next 5-7 years. And my GC, I have no hopes of getting it in the next 10-15 years.

A friend (let's call him frn) of mine is in the country for 8 years now - still stuck in H1B status. Because of this - just early this month.... frn landed in an opportunity which would have paid close to $60K more per annum had frn had EAD or GC.

This is a HUUUGE deal for someone like my frn - a middle class person.

Who is the loser here? Is it just frn? Definitely Not. It is frn and some qualified American who could have made more money. frn had no choice but to work at this wage. It is obviously above the minimum wage, DoL wages in Labor, etc. It is all legal. But still, end of the day, Citizens/PRs are also big losers in this game. Because, this will drag the wages down. The trickling effect is disastrous.

So, what is happening here? Just because frn is stuck in a GC queue - This injust is happening to both frn and qualified locals.
Who on earth measures merit by country of birth?
For Family based GCs, I agree.
But for Employment based GCs too?
Why can't anyone in Desis, with voting rights, even seem to question this premise?

Coming to H1Bs
Was anyone sane made the rule that H4 can't work? What era are we living in? Does it mean people (be it male or female) who arrives in USA on H4 visa, loses the right to work? They are less important all of a sudden?

For this - as an ointment (not the ideal solution, but at least better than nothing) - There was a rule made during O's term to issue "certain" H4s EADs. Those "certain" have to be spouses of H1B holders who got their H1B status extension based off an approved I-140.

But filing GC - doesn't start soon for anyone - some people may be lucky. I don't deny that. But how many H4s would qualify for that within the first 4-5 years of their arrival in USA?
(There are other options like - H1B/H4 couples spending a lot of money, time in getting into F1 in some "university" - and then OPT/CPT - again H1B - why should it be so circuitous for H4s? When that's not the case for L2, even F2? Are they not equal human beings in front of the law? The society?)

By the way - this partial fix for "H4s being treated as second grade citizens" problem -- is about to be undone by O (it is not yet set in stone...but it is definitely likely - more details below)

That's just the crux of the problem.


Now coming to the achievements of the current pesi so far (we should give some credit to HRC also - as she was Sec of St):

1. Promise Immi reform in the 1st year of his presidency without fail - gets both House & Senate. Squanders it on some trivial things. Starts making childish excuses about CIR ever since.

2. He promised to recapture 500K wasted GCs over the last 10-15 years - that were wasted due to incompetency or un-implementable policies of USCIS. That would clear all the current GC backlogs. Gives a fresh shot to the president to set a clear policy for documented immigrants - so that these injustices won't happen at least for the foreseeable future. But what did he do? "Almost" ignored them. And actually did nothing. This doesn't seem to concern Desis supporting O/HRC/Dems. Please question them.

3. These two are extremely important for Legal Immigrants -- because there are close to 300K to 500K people stuck in GC backlogs. But all day, every day, all we hear is O whining about "Path to Citizenship" of "Illegal" immigrants. But neither O, nor HRC doesn't even mention these issues.

4. O/HRC introduced some extremely stringent measures for H1B -- at both petition level (authority: USCIS) and also VISA issuing level (Dept of State) -- they need each employer to establish "employee-employer" relationship. They need a client letter mandatory. Increased the H1B and L1 filing fees - on the pretext of spending this money for border strengthening with Mexico. -------- the first couple of points look "politically correct". But the devil is in the details. Not many people stuck in GC backlogs are still on H1B by their choice. But by compulsion of circumstances. So, without clearing the backlogs - what's the point in putting all these restrictions? Who are the losers? As I gave the example above, it's not just immigrants, but also locals.

4. Then started the USCIS amendaments story -- earlier - people used to file an H1B with 2 places(states) as possible work locations. Now, if you change your client, your employer, your work location by a certain distance - you've to file an H1B amendament. And when you file the amendament or extension you are allowed to "request" for a 3 year validity period. But you are at the mercy of USCIS for this. I heard a lot of stories first hand where they got very small term sometimes as short as a couple of months. These amendaments are not easy on the pocket either. They cost hell a lot of money - be it in the USCIS fees or Attorney Fees. Eventhough on paper the employer pays for these expenses -- it'll certainly hamper the H1B worker's earnings.

5. In 2012 June - O signed an executive order to issue work permits to close to 1 million Illegal Immigrants - I think DACA he called them. Whatever name he may give them, it doesn't matter - if he is not extending this freedom to those people who actually are here legally. Is that fair on any count? Did any Desi question this?

7. And last year the H1B/L1 fees were doubled again. Now, an H1B will potentially pay close to $8K in only USCIS fees - not including Attorney Fees, DoL fees, etc. etc.

8...many more...can't seem to recollect them all... one final thing before I jump to the mother of all "cheat exercises" of O's term

9. Almost starting at the same time as the fee increase -- in the last 1 year or so - the H1B extension processing times have been taking as long as 8-9 months. This from an agency, USCIS, who boasts that we don't run on govt money, but we run on revenues. They never even answer the questions as to why they can't hire more people (after all they run on fees paid by immigrants) to offset the workload. Nope, they don't answer. They're busy working for DACA/DAPA EADs and what not. Did any Desi voter question this? Nope...

O's 2014 Executive Action:
In Nov 2014 - O announced Executive Action in Vegas - a huge stage was set. He spoke for 30 minutes - his speech, histrionics, and the drama that unfolded afterwards -- never did he utter even a single word about legal immigrants. But spoke only about Illegals. As if they are the only ones with issues. So, when Whitehouse published the Executive Order on wh website a day or two later -- legal immigrants were elated to find that "Wow, finally someone in Washington, that too none other than the POTUS heard our concerns. Not just that, he actually ordered his administration to address these issues". This hope lasted long - but as always O showed where his priorities lie...important details below:

1. DACAs (Deferred Action against Childhood Arrivals) - will get work permits and a legal status immediately. Deportations will be stopped.

2. DAPAs (Deferred Action against Parents of Americans) - will get work permits and a legal status immediately. Deportations will be stopped.

3. Legal Immigrants with approved Immigrant petition (I-140's actual name) - O says "Issue Portable work authorizations, easy job mobility, etc" to thes pepole. This is nothing but, in layman terms, EAD/AP for I-140 approved people. But here, nothing is immediate. O asks USCIS to provide a report within 120 days - and then come up with an action plan - and then start working on that action plan - and at the end of that whole process, start implementing it to benefit the Legals stuck in backlogs. In the same EO, O also ordered Department of State to make sure that all the VISA numbers are utilized without fail each Fiscal Year. I don't know why they have such special treatment for Legals - while Illegals get EADs immediately as per EO.

What happened next?
DACA/DAPA - were put on hold by some court in Texas. Then O, O administration, DoJ, and many big shots in the "liberal" party fought tooth and nail in Texas, and then in SCOTUS for over 1.5 years - allocating tons of resources, at the level of AG itself. It is all commendable (as it means follow-up of one's own words), if only the following didn't happen.

Legal Immigrants - Let's take it in 2 parts.

Legal Immigrants - Department of State/USCIS fiasco
When Oct, 2015 visa bulletin was released by DoS on Sep 09, 2015 -- there was a unique idea to address Legal Immigrant's concerns. The DoS introduced 2 kinds of dates in the visa bulletin for people waiting in GC backlogs.
1. I-485 final action date (new name for the already existing cut-off date)
2. I-485 filing date (new) - with this, one can file I-485 even though his/her priority date is not meeting the Final Action cut-off date. This filing date was set at Jun 01, 2011.

The Priority date for EB2 already moved to May 01, 2010 back in 2012. So this was mostly for people who had Priority Dates between May 2010 and Jun 2012.

This would have granted EADs, APs to at least 100K people (primary GC applicants + dependents put together).

This bulletin was supposed to take effect from 1st Oct, 2015.
A lot of people changed their travel plans. A lot of people took medical tests. A lot of people stopped accepting offers that are active. Just to make sure that they file 485 - and then at least not be tied to "a single" employer.

But what happened was -- on Sep 25, 2015. USCIS & DoS pushed blame on each other, but in the end screwed up all the 100K+ people that were supposed to get benifitted. By retrogressing the "filing date" to June 01, 2009. Making the "filing date" useless. Close to 99-99.5% of people with priority dates before June 01, 2009 - have already filed their I-485. So who did it benefit? Nobody knows. Did O utter a word? Did his administration utter a word? Nope. Contract this with the way they fought for DACA/DAPA.


Legal Immigrants - USCIS fiasco
USCIS submitted report around 8 months later (as against 120 days). Then their action plan came another few weeks later. Then they started working on rule making. USCIS initially put Oct/2015 as the tentative date for the draft version of this rule (I-140 EAD/AP - as then was popularly known) to be published. But it got published towards the end of Dec, 2015.
Everyone eagerly started reading the draft - that has 186 pages. People were reading, reading, and read some more. But there was not even a single provision of O's executive action there.
There was very weak and hardly ever can be used provision that says "If you've an approved I140 and if you can prove compelling cirsumstances - USCIS, which doesn't want to define those compelling circumstances in this rule but wants to keep it to our own discretion - you'll be granted an EAD. But that EAD can't be extended - unless your Priority Date is going to be current in the next 1 year. When PD becomes current for such beneficiaries, you can't apply I-485 or change of status. You've to go for consular processing in your home country" -- where is the response from O on this? It is a full 8 months....

This rule from USCIS also proposes this -- right now there is a time commitment of 90 days for approving EADs. We propose to do away with this time restriction. ---------- what will this do? This will introduce tons of more uncertainity for an H4 who is working. The H4 can work on EAD. But when the EAD expires -- USCIS doesn't want to issue an extension or interim EAD...If the EAD approval comes through before expiration, all good. But what if it doesn't? Please read about the plight of H1Bs above in terms of processing delays. That H4 effectively loses job. -- so is this not undoing the one good thing that O did, even though half heartedly and partially? (H4 EAD rule -- with the conditions I mentioned earlier in this post was implemented effective May 26, 2015).

Now, after this draft rule - even though O or his administration didn't comment -- people stuck in backlogs reached out to their local congressmen, senators, etc etc etc -- but even after that, O didn't comment, let alone allocate AG to defend it :D

Did any Dem supporting Desi with voting rights question this?

After this draft was published -- there was a public comments period. Everyone submitted their comments. It's a full 5 months since that comment period ended. So far, USCIS is mum about when they'll publish the final version of the rule -- god knows if there are going to be any changes from the draft version. But USCIS doesn't want to commit to issuing the final rule -- nor is O pressing them.



ika HRC vishayaaniki vaste -- in May, she publicized that she was going to answer top questions on quora.com on a certain date and time.
So, people started posting questions - all kinds of people with all kinds of issues.
Naturally, all GC backlogged slaves - posted their own questions.

There were 2 (or was it 3?) questions in the top 10 (in terms of voting up of the questions on quora.com) related to our plight.....HRC conveniently ignored everyone of those questions. Didn't mention them, didn't answer them. Nothing.

But just 2/3 days later - she participates in a rally to support illegal immigrants. Proudly presents some illegal immigrants on the stage of her rally....

As recent as a week or two ago -- she categorically said (in a video interview - so there is no scope for misunderstanding) that for her CIR is about "path to citizenship" - everything else is a distant second. She didn't even mention the plight of the legal slaves.

Why? I can't think she doesn't know about our issues. After all the whole EO was about that. Even though O didn't follow-through....the EO was a very good one in terms of granting some freedom to legal immigrants.

But is any Desi questioning DNC or HRC or O about these? Nope. Nada. Zilch.


It is an extremely lengthy post....sorry about the length. But All these conteents are true to the best of my knowledge.

Ippudu cheppandi annai - what are Desis doing to alleviate the pain of the fellow Desis?
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 12:22 am:      


Gringo:

Bernie Sanders totally sold out to Crooked Hillary Clinton. All of that work, energy and money, and nothing to show for it! Waste of time.


btw, general lo odipote, I guess will trump accept the same for him? "All of that work, energy and money, and nothing to show for it! Waste of time"
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Rocketk2:

Now what do you mean by slave making policies. I want to understand better before answering


I think it's pretty simple. gc's restrict chesi, h1b meeda forever unchi, slave labory in another name cheyistunnaru ani meaning. could'nt even bother removing country quotas in gc's
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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 12:18 am:      


Gringo:

Bernie Sanders. All of that work, energy and money, and nothing to show for it! Waste of time.


sold out ananu kani, bolded portion of your statement is true. Harsh but true
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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 12:16 am:      


Anand_n:


vennupotu tinna tarvata emi labhamu. enta trend marpinchina, hillary win ayina tarvata, bernie to oppukunna policy points cancel aipotayi choostu undandi


Gandhiguevara:

Bernie thatha President material kaademo gaani


ante cunningness, kutantram undala president material ki?
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annai,
meeku nijamgaa legal immigrants issues (and the way current pesi and HRC are screwing us up royally, legally, and in every way imaginable) teliyadu ante - I'm more than glad to bring the issues (I can write a lot about this - just with bullet points - not even details) to your notice.


I am out of touch. Green cards delay avuthunnayi ani telusu Kani not much more. I got my green card in 2001.. 6 yrs after applying. It was a bit of painful journey. I have seen the Gc queue clogged and. Cleared off 3 times.. 1999 2008 and some other time. By cleared off I mean every one was made current. That is how my 140 was cleared (1999). I believe that will happen one more time, if the queue gets full.
So general process telusu. And I know few changes happened after that . This is extent of my knowledge.i don't know how Obama and Hillary are screwing . I am really curious

Why would I not have open mind. Nenu Ee process nunchi vachina vadine
 

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Posted on Monday, July 25, 2016 - 11:49 pm:      


Rocketk2:

Frankly, other than the fact that DNC generally support H1b visas, I don't know much. I dug a little bit to see Hillary is the only candidate that did not speak against h1b visas




annai,
meeku nijamgaa legal immigrants issues (and the way current pesi and HRC are screwing us up royally, legally, and in every way imaginable) teliyadu ante - I'm more than glad to bring the issues (I can write a lot about this - just with bullet points - not even details) to your notice.

But, again, I'll be inclined to discuss with people who are open minded.

Please let me know your answers to both the above questions. So that I can reply accordingly.}
 

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Posted on Monday, July 25, 2016 - 11:31 pm:      


Happyguy415:

So immigration ante only latinos, illegal immigrants issues...that's what the entire DNC's belief and definition is? including the presidential candidate?




That is not the entire issue but that is the main issue. There is a larger number of people affected by it.
Frankly, other than the fact that DNC generally support H1b visas, I don't know much. I dug a little bit to see Hillary is the only candidate that did not speak against h1b visas

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Posted on Monday, July 25, 2016 - 11:24 pm:      

#BernieSoldOut is trending on twitter
 

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Posted on Monday, July 25, 2016 - 11:22 pm:      


Anand_n:

Bernie Sanders - take a bow ! Great speech making sure his supporters did not feel betrayed even as he endorses Hillary! I would have been happier to see him as the nominee but in absence of that option Hillary or anyone is better than Trump!




Donald J. Trump â@realDonaldTrump 1h1 hour ago
Bernie Sanders totally sold out to Crooked Hillary Clinton. All of that work, energy and money, and nothing to show for it! Waste of time.
 

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Posted on Monday, July 25, 2016 - 11:20 pm:      

Well, It's official. Trump is the projected winner in November.

MSNBC is already switching parties. Watch out for all the other MSM to follow.
 

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Posted on Monday, July 25, 2016 - 11:06 pm:      


Rocketk2:

yenti tammudu eee literal interogation :-)
Both are same and deal with illegal immigration and yes you got me...
I was just listing topics Speakers were speaking. One talked about undocumented workers paying taxes and other talked about families with us born kids . Both dealt with immigration issues




So immigration ante only latinos, illegal immigrants issues...that's what the entire DNC's belief and definition is? including the presidential candidate?

Why don't I see even a mention of the plight of the slaves who are here as documented immigrants? Does the "Liberal" party support slavery?


prastutam unna pesi goru mammalni sanka naakinchEsaaru. house/senate rendu unnappudu paniki maalina panula meeda drushti petti. house pOgaanE, "path to citizenship" is a must, that is how I differentiate myself from Reps ani gola modaletti...mammalni poooooooorthigaa sanka naakinchEsaadu.


So, in light of all that, when you said "undocumented workers, immigration" - I had a small hope against hope that may be DNC is actually a "liberal" party, not just for votes sake, but for ideology sake.

What's the position of DNC & HRC on this? I sincerely want to know annai. Please answer. This is not interrogation. This is an attempt to gauze the view of Desis supporting these slave making policies.
 

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Posted on Monday, July 25, 2016 - 10:58 pm:      

so far the democratic convention is a total faliure


but trump needs to meet with the bernie supporters


not just to tell them to come on board
 

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Posted on Monday, July 25, 2016 - 10:53 pm:      


Gandhiguevara:

Bernie thatha President material kaademo gaani




Compared to Trump , anyone is- just heard him whine 'it's so unfair, it's so unfair' to Hannity :-) jokes apart I think Bernie would have done fine.,

The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim
 

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Posted on Monday, July 25, 2016 - 10:40 pm:      


Bushu:


so as a bernie voter, what do you think of the dnc emails?




I go with tatha, just accept it and let the revolution continue...he forced a lot of change..I will take it. The system is rigged ante yes it is, but you got to play it from with in the system, that is how Obama won, playing by the rules. I don't think it is wisw to downplay Hillary's win, all candidates know the rules from beginning...madyalo toocha gatra lite...overall ga something good came out of it and the future of democratic party looks good...between, I seriously miss Anthony Weiner yaa...ademma..lathkor nayalu...vadi talent ki vaadu vunte stage mantalekkinche vadu.
 

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Anand_n:


Bernie thatha President material kaademo gaani ... true gentleman and integrity vunna politician anipisthaadu
 

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Posted on Monday, July 25, 2016 - 10:37 pm:      

Good night all.. Pretty good first day.. some bad patches here and there but Corey, Michelle, Warren and Bernie hit it out of the park.. Turned a potential disastrous day into a very good one.
 

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Posted on Monday, July 25, 2016 - 10:36 pm:      

overall day 1 utter me gutter....trump bashing and bamma bajana thappa emi ledu.....day 3 obuleshu speach tho dnc ends.....media lo oho aho ani vastundi as usaul...wht can we expect from congee cousins and media tigers...
 

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Posted on Monday, July 25, 2016 - 10:34 pm:      

Bernie Sanders - take a bow ! Great speech making sure his supporters did not feel betrayed even as he endorses Hillary! I would have been happier to see him as the nominee but in absence of that option Hillary or anyone is better than Trump!

This is a sad election - less about who is liked more but about who is hated more to draw people to vote against-it will be a gory road to November ..

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Posted on Monday, July 25, 2016 - 10:34 pm:      


Rgb:

Kaani nee post choodala daani gurinchi




hain? why would I care about those idiots? sampesaav ..
 

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Posted on Monday, July 25, 2016 - 10:32 pm:      


Hadoop:

thats better than bernee boot licking...


what Bernie did was called graciousness in regular world !! :-)
 

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Bushu:

when you sacrifice beliefs for winnability, you are no different from the crooks you are fighting against. lazy minds cant see that. sadly.




Yah choosamu dozenla koddi including the worst of them all - Christie. Kaani nee post choodala daani gurinchi :-)
 

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Guriginja:

Sarah seppindhe andaru sepparu gaa...




so as a bernie voter, what do you think of the dnc emails?


Rgb:

common sense vunte chaalu unlike you know who ;)




when you sacrifice beliefs for winnability, you are no different from the crooks you are fighting against. lazy minds cant see that. sadly.
 

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Posted on Monday, July 25, 2016 - 10:29 pm:      


Rgb:

Vote your conscience expect chesinattunnaru




LOL..adhe kadha...andaru...Rethug party lekka desam gurinchi kaakunda....yevadi swardham vadu susukune lathkor batch anukuntunnattunnar...first day rocked yaa...huffpost lo seppinattu...MO stung like a bee....Warren ayithe blade teesukoni gaatlu....taatha ayithe seppakkarledhu...joker convention and this convention ni polisthe..yekkadanna duki savocchu loser batch...1st day super hi. Good night.
 

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Hadoop:

thats better than bernee boot licking...




oho Rubio, Walker chesindhi adhena. Campaign lo kooda Trump ni boothulu tittaru. Bernie was mostly respectful to her
 

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Rgb:

Vote your conscience expect chesinattunnaru




thats better than bernee boot licking...
 

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Posted on Monday, July 25, 2016 - 10:25 pm:      


Guriginja:




Vote your conscience expect chesinattunnaru :-)