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Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2019 - 02:59 pm:       


Mental_sachinodu:




I replied to Musalex , not you Bro
 

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Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2019 - 02:26 pm:       


Last_avataar:

so why are these germans respect people who has Sanskrit knowledge and why there was lot of research done on ancient Indian scriptures...

When you say one should have open mind, that applies to other all




you are being too literal.. it was a joke aimed to show absurdity in my post. :-)
 

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Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2019 - 02:04 pm:       


Vipersting:

You are thinking any discussion about science which may disprove some of the content of our religious texts as "Bashing Hinduism"..






i am not blaming any1 for "Hinduism Bashing" gurujee.. thed motham chadivara, there were members diverting to bashing antuna..

and words like "blabbering shXt", some of the vetakarams.. evadikaina kashtam gane untai.. science, menaningful topic matlade tapudu .. prasantham ga undandi antuna ante..
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Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2019 - 02:00 pm:       


Baatasari:

this thed was meant to discuss whether Tech&such knowledge is already there in our vedic texts..

we then slightly diverted to bashing Hinduism, then came back..

there were plenty of examples, as described by the WESTERN media about the vedic texts.. that should lay to rest, the thed topic..

if you pick movie examples, SC examples ..and claim "west is more advanced" well the thed topic was not about a race ..

having said all of that, we all know.. this thed ( or any such DB ) is not going to change your personal opinions or beliefs about Hinduism.. but when posting, please ensure you maintain the decorum..

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You are thinking any discussion about science which may disprove some of the content of our religious texts as "Bashing Hinduism"..

NO !! No scientist would do that. His agenda is towards science. He doesn't really care about religion.

There have been so many technological advances in our Culture and have withstood the test of time like Architecture, Sculptures and Ayurveda.

That doesn't mean everything written in the books has to be 100% true. Some of it is and some of it isn't.

If we believe the Idols in the temples have incarnated in the holy sites themselves and are even present till today, Then all the technology should also present, Right ? For example - The pushpaka vimanam should atleast be found in Fossils if not in working condition.

Just to basis the technology prowess of a country with millennium old references is completely against the basic understanding of science.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2019 - 01:49 pm:       


Lenin:




Worst thing is the person and the stage where this is spoken..

VC of a reputed university and that too addressing ISC..

We are going backwards..

 

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Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2019 - 12:09 pm:       


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so why are these germans respect people who has Sanskrit knowledge and why there was lot of research done on ancient Indian scriptures...

When you say one should have open mind, that applies to other all
 

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Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2019 - 11:52 am:       


Masularex:

oka german heinrich and one indian pranav train lo pothunde...

gh: maa archeology department vaallu monnnyee madye oka cave lo paatha kaalam naati raagi wire type traces chusaru... carbon dating run cheste around two thousand years old ani vacchindi, so appatike maavollaki metallurgy electricity laanti concepts thelusemo ani anukuntannam...

ip: maa pwd department vollu desam antha thavvesaaru, ekkada kuda paatha kaalam naati wires gatra kanipinchaledu...

gh: so ?

ip: obvious kada... our indians were using wireless technology then...

last seen, heinrich was running around the train tracks and trying have conversation with dogs and birds... his entire nervous system was blasted away by that little bit of eastern logic... poor chap...






wireless endhi vunkl cheap ga.. we were using telepathy and moving people at hyper-light speeds, and did cross-species birthing
 

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Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2019 - 11:51 am:       


Mental_sachinodu:

I think it is unfair to brush everything we come across as an accidental accomplishment - akin to monkey typing a hamlet.

I feel it would benefit to have an open mind to understand or learn how they achieved - what they did.




That is NOT what I said :-)

Trials - observations - repetition - observations- theory - prescriptive implementation

Is usually the chain .. to dismiss everything before theory as not science, is unscientific to say the least :-)

And looking at examples and saying theory preceded the examples could be equally wrong ..not all science accomplishments start with someone just having a bright idea

Giving a simplistic example - I don’t need chemistry to know that putting salt in food leaches water - just because a recipe tells me when to put salt does not mean the person writing the recipe knew the Chemical equation.

A lot of ancient knowledge across the world was what we call today tribal knowledge - passed by word of mouth or handed down in trade groups - a statue maker knew what metals to mix together - did he know why is anybody’s guess:-)

I am not discounting knowledge that existed - I am refuting the claim that they necessarilly knew the why :-)

Have busy day- have fun :-)

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Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2019 - 11:51 am:       


Masularex:




dont you think, you exchanged the roles of german x indian..
comfortably for ur convenience ?

excavations, research lo india nunchi inni bayata paddayi ani kinda links istunte..


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Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2019 - 11:46 am:       


Mental_sachinodu:


oka german heinrich and one indian pranav train lo pothunde...

gh: maa archeology department vaallu monnnyee madye oka cave lo paatha kaalam naati raagi wire type traces chusaru... carbon dating run cheste around two thousand years old ani vacchindi, so appatike maavollaki metallurgy electricity laanti concepts thelusemo ani anukuntannam...

ip: maa pwd department vollu desam antha thavvesaaru, ekkada kuda paatha kaalam naati wires gatra kanipinchaledu...

gh: so ?

ip: obvious kada... our indians were using wireless technology then...

last seen, heinrich was running around the train tracks and trying have conversation with dogs and birds... his entire nervous system was blasted away by that little bit of eastern logic... poor chap...
 

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Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2019 - 11:37 am:       


Raman:

endi maa lenin kurradi meeda chandasulu mookammadi dadi chesaru .. test ledu tube ledu side na kukondi




raman vunkl -
test, tubes, babies - ee mooditlo nuvvu vonly first two levu antunaava.. or even babies(kauravas) kooda leru antunaava?
 

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Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2019 - 11:34 am:       

endi maa lenin kurradi meeda chandasulu mookammadi dadi chesaru .. test ledu tube ledu side na kukondi
 

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Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2019 - 11:33 am:       


Baatasari:

nah.. i mean.. when he says, "eeyana" who is he referring..
wasnt clear, he didnt quote any1..




lol.. i am that blessed entity ... :d
 

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Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2019 - 11:31 am:       


Mental_sachinodu:




nah.. i mean.. when he says, "eeyana" who is he referring..
wasnt clear, he didnt quote any1..
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Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2019 - 11:26 am:       


Baatasari:

evaru eeyana ?

neeku nachina theory follow avvu.. pakka vallani rakkeyaku at the end of the day antunad M_S ..




masul vunkl is one of the smartest in the db.. edho leg pulling sesthaa untaad
 

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Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2019 - 11:23 am:       


Masularex:

open mind ant flat earth theory ni kuda entertain cheyala ? ento eeyana chadastam... peral peral rastadu mukka ardam ayithe mettu icchuku kottu...




masul vunkl -
thread lo first post yesinappude.. expect chesa vachi oka retort ichi velthaavu ani. :D

yes, i do "entertain" the idea that flat there are people who believe and propose flat earth theory - mukka ardhm kaledhu ani retort ichi vellanu.. i question their theory, if possible learn why they think so
 

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Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2019 - 11:22 am:       


Masularex:

open mind ant flat earth theory ni kuda entertain cheyala ? ento eeyana chadastam... peral peral rastadu mukka ardam ayithe mettu icchuku kottu...




evaru eeyana ?

neeku nachina theory follow avvu.. pakka vallani rakkeyaku at the end of the day antunad M_S ..


quoteauthor{Mental_sachinodu,I am merely saying, there is no need to judge. All we can do is try to understand and acknowledge our past. }
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Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2019 - 11:18 am:       

open mind ant flat earth theory ni kuda entertain cheyala ? ento eeyana chadastam... peral peral rastadu mukka ardam ayithe mettu icchuku kottu...
 

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Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2019 - 11:13 am:       


Anand_n:

Playing Devil�s advocate here - did you never build structures as a child - sand castles, building block pyramids , straw towers ? Did you know or need geometry or trigonometry to do that ? Why do we assume that these theoretical sciences are needed for ancient constructions - after visiting the Ellora Temple someone mentioned in this thread I was gushing over how they had perfect design that they executed over a few generations to a colleague - and he asked how do you know that was the original design they started with - maybe it was design as you go with whatever rock that was standing after any accidents / mistakes - and I thought that makes a lot more sense than assuming perfection and zero room for human error

There is a lot of science that was understood, may not be through documented theory eg we knew turmeric works - and they probably discovered it thru observation of this repeatedly - just because they did not publish a paper does not make it unscientific




I think it is unfair to brush everything we come across as an accidental accomplishment - akin to monkey typing a hamlet.

I feel it would benefit to have an open mind to understand or learn how they achieved - what they did.

Who knows, in a few centuries, whatever we have achieved today may seem like child's play.

I acknowledge that, past civilizations may have lacked the application of scientific method to understand observations and postulate theories, but they did have the ability to observe, postulate, apply and create.

To folks who think I am trying to give undue credit to the past - I am too selfish for that. :-) I am merely saying, there is no need to judge. All we can do is try to understand and acknowledge our past.

They have created things that stand the test of time, from ideas, literature, various forms of art.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2019 - 10:58 am:       

this thed was meant to discuss whether Tech&such knowledge is already there in our vedic texts..

we then slightly diverted to bashing Hinduism, then came back..

there were plenty of examples, as described by the WESTERN media about the vedic texts.. that should lay to rest, the thed topic..

if you pick movie examples, SC examples ..and claim "west is more advanced" well the thed topic was not about a race ..

having said all of that, we all know.. this thed ( or any such DB ) is not going to change your personal opinions or beliefs about Hinduism.. but when posting, please ensure you maintain the decorum..

abuse ki inka chala theds unai..
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Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2019 - 08:34 am:       

watch this guys videos..he explores the ancient Indian technology that was used thousands of years ago in India,which western world has discovered/invented just 100 years back

https://www.youtube.com/user/phenomenalplacecom

about the evolution/darwin theory as interpreted in our mythology (as claimed by the professor )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZYiH5snMYU
 

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Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2019 - 08:16 am:       

basic ga cheppu ko tagga modern innovation ledu. nobels levu.. asalu a nurturing environment ae ledu.

most of the society, teachers, schools, governments doesn’t even care about innovation and scientific progress. sagam mandi leaders ki science ante idea ne ledu,

ma thathalu testtube baby epudo chesaru. ipudu other countries chesevanni memu puranallo chesam ani issue ni side track chesi mardinchukini kurchuntunnaru.

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Posted on Monday, January 07, 2019 - 10:50 pm:       

I read an interesting point on sculpture. Some Rocks have some life cycle, where in they go to some kind of hibernating state , which gives lot of maneuverability , and can be recognized by master sculptors

Not sure about this.
 

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Posted on Monday, January 07, 2019 - 10:19 pm:       


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My point exactly ...subject matter knowledge obviously existed .. construction, metallurgy and many other fields ... much before it distilled into theories and formulae applicable across domains ..

Anyways talking of mountain structures has anyone visited Petra in Jordan ? Looked intriguing :-)

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Posted on Monday, January 07, 2019 - 10:19 pm:       


Lenin:

if you can not furnish the proofs stop blabbering shi*t on an arena where other things need to be discussed




The unrusted iron pillar of Delhi doesn't have any documented proof of its metallurgy. We can't say that ancient Indians were dumb because Pillar itself is the proof that ancient Indians were masters in metallurgy than us.

Like this some examples with stand time testing, some might destroyed in the time line....

Pseudo scientists may not have enough scientific temperament to think about these things, but real scientists would have.
 

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Posted on Monday, January 07, 2019 - 09:55 pm:       


Anand_n:




True Mam. Every GEN NEEDS NOT KNOW the scientific details of actual shastra.
They are passed down with lots of abstraction like, modern engineering techniques to build brudges, dams and high rise buildings
 

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Posted on Monday, January 07, 2019 - 09:53 pm:       


Last_avataar:




Or maybe it’s experiential knowledge passed down as vasthu/construction guidelines :-)

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Posted on Monday, January 07, 2019 - 09:43 pm:       


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For Building primitive structures we may not need construction science, math , trig etc

But for sculpture, big structures of ancient times , one may not have used what we call today, but definitely did that based on some scientific principles which are devised by some nerds in the field lter just passed on with lots of abstraction as to how to build based on simple rules, like design patterns

Ok konda ni temple kinda cheyyalante, enthati avagahana undali.
 

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Posted on Monday, January 07, 2019 - 09:37 pm:       


Mental_sachinodu:

If Ancient civilizations did not have documented proof of their skills - how can we trust that they could build these massive temples? if they could build a temple dome in a pyramid structure, did they know Pythagorean principles of geometric figures? if so where is such theory documented.




And here we go again - iteration n+1 of the same discussion

Playing Devil’s advocate here - did you never build structures as a child - sand castles, building block pyramids , straw towers ? Did you know or need geometry or trigonometry to do that ? Why do we assume that these theoretical sciences are needed for ancient constructions - after visiting the Ellora Temple someone mentioned in this thread I was gushing over how they had perfect design that they executed over a few generations to a colleague - and he asked how do you know that was the original design they started with - maybe it was design as you go with whatever rock that was standing after any accidents / mistakes - and I thought that makes a lot more sense than assuming perfection and zero room for human error :-)

There is a lot of science that was understood, may not be through documented theory :-) eg we knew turmeric works - and they probably discovered it thru observation of this repeatedly - just because they did not publish a paper does not make it unscientific :-)

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Posted on Monday, January 07, 2019 - 06:03 pm:       


Lenin:

did n't go well with every participant and the attendee


That happens if people get confused between mythology and history. Hindus believe ramayana was history and non-hindus as mythology. Its just a matter of beliefs. All you need is mutual respect for beliefs and leave it there.
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Posted on Monday, January 07, 2019 - 05:54 pm:       


Ishan:

You may call it blabbering shit, but it was his opinion not a scientific seminar...so he was not taking up anyone's time there.




he just mixed a very bad cocktail and did n't go well with every participant and the attendee
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Posted on Monday, January 07, 2019 - 05:46 pm:       


Lenin:

if you can not furnish the proofs stop blabbering shi*t on an arena where other things need to be discussed


It was inaugural speech and he was glorifying the past contributions of Indian scientists since ancient times. His intention could be as simple as that. You may call it blabbering shit, but it was his opinion not a scientific seminar...so he was not taking up anyone's time there.
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Posted on Monday, January 07, 2019 - 05:37 pm:       


Ishan:




no body here is claiming that India is just a place for Nomads in pre roman times...


what we claim is , if you can not furnish the proofs stop blabbering shi*t on an arena where other things need to be discussed

question is not about the authenticity of the epics or some thing else...just don't live in your past and that particular science meet is not a religious gathering
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Posted on Monday, January 07, 2019 - 05:36 pm:       

kisnudu mobile phone vade vadu
naradudu time travel chesevadu
ganesudiki intra-animal plastic surgery and organ transpant.


deenemma. endi ee nasa.

VedVyas and Valmiki are nothing but Comic writers like todays spiderman, superman writers.


 

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Aniket Sule, Reader at the Homi Bhabha Centre for Science Education, a part of the Tata Institute of Fundamental Research, said stem cell research, test tube babies, guided missiles, aircraft were very advanced technologies and any civilisation which possessed them, must also possess many simpler technologies which are absolute must for these advanced ones.

“You need electricity, metallurgy, mechanics, propulsion etc. We don’t see any evidence of these,†he said.

Mr. Sule noted that in the last few years, there has been an increasing trend of some people reinterpreting some poetic verses in old texts to extract any random meaning they want. “That is exactly opposite of real research,†Mr. Sule added.


A real scientist would have a completely open mind and doesn't rule out any possibilities. Great thing about science is that it always self-corrects and evolves...today's scientific conclusion might be over turned tomorrow and a new conclusion might surface...Mr. Sule is assuming that there is only one approach to scientific study...may be they followed totally different path to reach the conclusion...maybe there was no need of metallurgy and electricity with their technology...may be it was not the current 'test tube' method of making babies altogether...

and seriously you guys think its not possible to lose a technology in time? Entire continent of europe changed forever just with a war that lasted for 5 years...look up the ww2 impact...if you want to bash hinduism at least pick on the good old caste system which makes sense to an extent
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Posted on Monday, January 07, 2019 - 01:56 pm:       


Nisarga:

why do we always try to retrofit things give our ancient references once they are discovered.




isnt the nature of discovery itself "Retrofit"'in things once we observe something and made sense of it?

You may be asking the right questions, but the lack of answers does not mean there is a possibility that said events might have happened.

It goes back to the very basic questions of philosophy - "If a tree fell down, and if there was no on to hear, did the tree really fell down?" If there were advanced capabilities of ancient civilizations, does the lack of knowledge or perception, prove that they did not happen?

If Ancient civilizations did not have documented proof of their skills - how can we trust that they could build these massive temples? if they could build a temple dome in a pyramid structure, did they know Pythagorean principles of geometric figures? if so where is such theory documented.

In the case of Aryabhatta, there are proofs that he did understand many western mathematical concepts. but they were written in the form of poetry..
isnt it?

If not for a very stoking our very insecure nature of existince and understanding the world.. i would suggest to keep an open mind to understand that nature and universe is full of surprises :D.. i know i went abit too far :D

I am not saying believe that they possesed all kinds of knowledge, but acknowledge that they did some marvelous stuff, however that was possible for them.

Kaurava's being test tube babies - if some has a problem believing that they were test tube babies, I would be more surprised if someone believes that a lady gave birth to 100 offsprings in natural ways :D

The story could be purely imaginative - but what if its real :D ...

Do people who believe such stories deserve to be our leaders ... well, what about people who believe in God :D - #whataboutism
 

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Sony:

It is only in hinduism science and religion go together.



+1

and thats the reason, scientists from West are trying to employ linguists to decipher our age-old texts..


Starc:

ante ippudu enti .. india lo technology unde




anta varake..

specific to USA, its wrong to even compare India Vs USA in terms of the culture.. USA is a culture born out of immig, whereas we had a civilisation sinces ages..
brahma satyam jagan-mithyä jivo brahmaiva näparah
 

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ante ippudu enti .. india lo technology unde.. world waste antara.. miru mi kodi dimak
 

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Key:

It is only in hinduism science and religion go together.


iKey uncle
 

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Key:


happy birthday
 

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It is only in hinduism science and religion go together.

Western mentalities to compare chesi science veru religion veru authentication kavali ante evvademjeyyaled
 

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Posted on Monday, January 07, 2019 - 08:38 am:       

Lord subrahmanya birth is also similar to what IVF procedures do today.
There's a cacophony in the truth, A melody in lies and it accompanies one on every journey, From the lows to the highs
 

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2001 Space Odyssey lo Arthur C Clarke talks about a tablet computer.

Ante 1960's lone west lo portable computing invent ayipoyinatlaa?
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Posted on Monday, January 07, 2019 - 08:33 am:       

international coverage: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/07/india-scientis ts-claim-ancient-hindus-invented-stem-cell-research-dismiss- einstein
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Posted on Monday, January 07, 2019 - 08:26 am:       

anni vedallo unna yashe !


lenin ni ban cheyandi... yes, I demand it...
 

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Vishvak:

Memu vochi anni nerpincham antaru kada west countries vollu




West lo Onti meedha noolu pogu lekunda tirugutha unte, battalu pampi civilization nerpindi India, china
 

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Guriginja:

star wars is a bootiful story..there is inter galactic travel, advancd weapons, what not...alage harry porter is also eri eri bootiful....hogwarts is the warals best university....ee gottam rao laanti vaallu aa books susi ..darth vader is/ was the greatest villian in the universe...antoo..ma advancement sudandi antaremo..what a bunch of jokers and losers....medhavulu poyi ituvanti dhed dimak gaallu vc ayipothunnaru....what a tragedy


5000 yrs back meeku civilization ledu... Memu vochi anni nerpincham antaru kada west countries vollu... Then how it is possible to get the fiction about the baby birth and etc?

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Ellora temple has been built in 18 years it seems. Aa kind of structure ippudu unna technology tho build cheyyataniki 18 years kanna ekkuva padutundhi emo. How is it possible then and why not that technology been transferred
 

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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 11:28 pm:       

Ikkada kindha evaro sex inka India lo secret topic ee anattu post vesaaru. Our own temples used to have sexual structures on them. What do you say about that

Our ancients never should have considered sex as a shy thing. They should have given more importance to it as a divine process. Aa thinking ee cheptondhi entha advanced oo in terms of thinking
 

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Last_avataar:

who is questioning Aryabhatta's works here ?




It's not about questioning now. Copernicus Bhoomi suryudu chuttu tirugutundhi ani cheppinappudu kaadhu kaadhu ani argue chesi saavagottara ledha. Ippudu prove avvaledhu ani paathavi anni wrong aipovu kadha

Proofs lenappudu enduku maatladatam ante - inka ala maatladakapothe ala ala ala oka 100 years taruvatha maruguna padipothe appudu vere batch vachi assala evvaru enduku maatladaledhu ee last 100 years lo antaaru
 

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Stalker:

test mail ampa baa...check cheyyi..




Surprised to see your mail. Reply chesaanu chudandi
 

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Meghan:




ARYABAHATTA works have profound influence of mathematical development pf all the northwestern of Asia.

Knowledge has evolved across different parts of the world at different times.
In India, probably some of scientific concepts might have been stopped at theoretical level and did not progress later.

ANAT MANAME TOPU ANI ante joke kaani, ANCIENT iNDIA did contribute a lot to science and mathematics especially fundamental concepts
 

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MANY ANCIENT CONTRSUCTIONS around the world, India were built on

proven mathematical, civil, architectural , logistical , methods means

physics, mathes, chemistry, constructions, logistics , material science, metallurgy all these subjects are well evolved.

There is no doubt about it.
 

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Last_avataar:

why sushruth is regarded as father Indian medicine or surgery




Ayana India lo puttadu kabatti, memu nammamu... Tell me if any foreigner authenticated him..
 

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Java is derived from Sanskrit
Assembly language is what initial vedas are written in
TV is how the queens in Naha bharathabused to watch wars
 

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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 11:00 pm:       

Lol
Contributions of Hinduism to Science lo Aryanhatta ni vesaru
Ee lekkana accept what aryabhatta did every thing else came from all other religions


Atom bomb or for that mater test tube babies ani science Cheops data so called Hindus ki aa technology vunnnadi ani telidu... After several years of scientific invention they come up with these baseless mappings .

China pouring school lo answer telinodu ki answer cheppamgane exactly I want to do the same anattu undi
 

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who is questioning Aryabhatta's works here ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryabhata

he was proven, he is not mythical character

Indian Mathematics oka time lo veelu peak ki teesukuvellaru.
 

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Nice:


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Nice:

pyramids




Pyramids kattetappudu engineering ledhu, ippudu engineering kanukkonnaka manam aapadincham anthe - itlu mee intelligent liberals
 

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First thing - A Novelist can have a futuristic vision of imagination which may or may not happen.

if Ramayan and Mahabharat are such stories, writers have amazing imagination of what future is going to store , even thousands of years back

it is unfortunate in ISC, people talk like this without scientific temperament. They can say it may be the case.

yes India once up on a time saw peak in alchemy, metallurgy , sculpture etc

why sushruth is regarded as father Indian medicine or surgery , he has some proven works


These guys can stop confirming things that might or might not have happened and fooling them in this current age.

science needs a hypothesis and proofs, anything that is not part of it can be just a concept that can talked about , but cannot be proven under science due to lack of evidence

Pushpakavimana could be also again might have been acquired by Kubera from aliens , again this cannot be mentioned in science congress, to make it as laughing stock.
 

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Sony:

aryabhatta designed calculus, basis for physics and engineering




Mari ee engineering leni time lone pyramids ela kattaru.
 

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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 10:49 pm:       


Lenin:

every country will have it's own mythological write ups...




Ok let us say its a story. Aa story lo ippudu possible avtondhi ela mention chesaaru aa kaalam lo jariginattu. No one should have thought about test tube babies say 100 or 200 years back. Alantidhi meeru ane aa story lo ela raayagaligaaru

How western world thinks about this is different issue. Why do we care about them as if their approval is mandatory anattu
 

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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 10:35 pm:       

We are 20 - 30 years ahead of USA.

Nickers pulihora lol
 

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Baatasari:


1970-95 range lo per desis, US is a wrong place to be, only failures used to migrate




this sums up everything.
 

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star wars is a bootiful story..there is inter galactic travel, advancd weapons, what not...alage harry porter is also eri eri bootiful....hogwarts is the warals best university....ee gottam rao laanti vaallu aa books susi ..darth vader is/ was the greatest villian in the universe...antoo..ma advancement sudandi antaremo..what a bunch of jokers and losers....medhavulu poyi ituvanti dhed dimak gaallu vc ayipothunnaru....what a tragedy.
 

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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 07:38 pm:       


Lenin:




could be or not. we dont have any evidence to point to either. if we have it, it would have passed ante is not a valid argument. 500 years back vunna mayans gurnchi poorthiga teiyadhu. valla knowledge , accomplishments evariki pass ayyayi. alantidhi 5000 years back ante enni calamities vachi vuntayi enni sarlu existential threat vundedhi. recent ga jarigina calamity black death gurinchi chaduvu. how it chnage dhistory of eurpe and world arthamu avvutundhi.

many things are lost in time. if you think only now humans have advanced skills ante god bless you.
 

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Rgb:

the message got lost somewhere



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Brightlife34:

Test tube babies etc anni sollu.
I don�t buy it, but what is shoes is the imagination of writers back then.
This imagination does not come out of vacuum. That shows we had a penchant for science and it�s infinite possibilities way back. We also had many contributions.

Most of our contribution we gave are about way of life. Yoga is one, Ayurveda Is also a natural remedial medicine. On medicine for ex most of the current western advancements work for acute illnesses. Now many are realizing these do not work for chronic illnesses, like asthma, auto immune conditions etc. andukey there is so much demand for bio chemical and bio medical streams.
And you would be surprised to see how much of these are what we already know since our childhood as gradmother chitkas. In a nutshell most of our innovation and culture was about enhancing and nourishing way of life




I agree with all of this - basically like science fiction. You can imagine stuff if you have some technology, not in a vaccum. Only problem I see is knowledge was passed in terms of 'Do this' but not 'Do this because'. Or atleast the message got lost somewhere
 

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Nisarga:

because I don't believe in it given the disconnect between the grand claims and current conditions in India. While the spirituality and religion was able to be transmitted to the generations why could not the ancient science be!
I dont buy into these claims. so it is the onus on people who believe in it.




i believe that is cos you are viewing the reality within a very narrow timeline + your own bias, limitations..

Time

can be a huge differentiator in how we perceive "success" ..

1970-95 range lo per desis, US is a wrong place to be, only failures used to migrate... suddenly with 95-2005 ppl started migrating aggressively, and now we have mass migration..

US was developed even in 1970, its the perception of desis -
and above all, its this "materialistic" definition of "success" thats deciding factor..at THIS point in time..
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Rgb:



Test tube babies etc anni sollu.
I don’t buy it, but what is shoes is the imagination of writers back then.
This imagination does not come out of vacuum. That shows we had a penchant for science and it’s infinite possibilities way back. We also had many contributions.

Most of our contribution we gave are about way of life. Yoga is one, Ayurveda Is also a natural remedial medicine. On medicine for ex most of the current western advancements work for acute illnesses. Now many are realizing these do not work for chronic illnesses, like asthma, auto immune conditions etc. andukey there is so much demand for bio chemical and bio medical streams.
And you would be surprised to see how much of these are what we already know since our childhood as gradmother chitkas. In a nutshell most of our innovation and culture was about enhancing and nourishing way of life
 

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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 06:55 pm:       


Lenin:




Lenis uncle.. you didnt respond hence i asked its settled ani ..

you should continue ur viewpoitns.. we can continue ( with my DB-ing quota )..


Lenin:

'the purpose of human life is to gain expertise in one craft to perfection , pass the knowledge to ur next generation and then move on to another craft'




this perspective is coming purely from materialistic sense..

what is this craft, y is this so important to be passed down ?
what happens if someone in the next generation, fails to absorb this craft ?

without taking names, and assuming your neutrality -

a politician, ABC - from chaddi age, very calculative, rose to the ranks, toppled his relatives, became top most politician..
now with his kid, this guy turned out to be dummy..

so now per your theory.. dad tried to pass on the "craft" so has Dad failed, has the Kid failed.. or have the fans failed ?
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Rgb:

Problem with most of these theories that we had advanced technology is - There is no explanation of why we lost this technology. I don't see a parallel anywhere else i.e.in all other cultures, the technology is passed down if not improved

In my mind its inconclusive whether we had this tech


Human race is almost wiped out and started fresh with remaining few ani naa yokka thoery... Anduke all tech lost

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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 06:49 pm:       


Baatasari:

he purpose/arguements on the original topic are settled.




not every debate will be 'settled' especially related to religion and politics

only egos satisfy avutai ante..because both sides will keep repeating the unanswered questions from the rival group

religion is above the top of every body's head and a complex subject to understand

my point behind raising the question is , I always feel 'the purpose of human life is to gain expertise in one craft to perfection , pass the knowledge to ur next generation and then move on to another craft'

behind all the Hindu claims, this purpose has not been fulfilled and personally I acknowledge Hindu philosophy is better than the philosophy of monolithic religions
Guntur, Hyderabad, Andhra, Telangana, Tamilnadu, Karnataka first....India last!!!
 

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Problem with most of these theories that we had advanced technology is - There is no explanation of why we lost this technology. I don't see a parallel anywhere else i.e.in all other cultures, the technology is passed down if not improved

In my mind its inconclusive whether we had this tech
 

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Nisarga:




i get a sense, you are overthinking man, and sadly in the wrong direction..

ask yourself..

is spirituality the luxury of the rich man ? i.e Ambani enjoys everything, and once 80 suddenly starts doing yoga,meditation..

is spirituality the end goal of the struggling poor man ? i.e i suffer suffer to food,clothing and become a sanyasi ?
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Baatasari:

you tell me, why cannot you do for benefit of the country..




because I don't believe in it given the disconnect between the grand claims and current conditions in India. While the spirituality and religion was able to be transmitted to the generations why could not the ancient science be!
I dont buy into these claims. so it is the onus on people who believe in it.
 

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Lenin:

Ninnu Hare Krishna gang tho kalpinchali..

they deny Hinduism and say Hinduism is a perversion of Vedic culture

of course, that's because of the helplessness of foreign rule to some extent




the purpose/arguements on the original topic are settled.. :D

to your point on Hare Krishna -
ee so called HareKrishna movements, the Aghora culture in recent times - there are the best examples of where the tradition is getting lost due to external, wrong interpretations..

bhakti lo moksham undi anaru kani, wild drunken dancing/hookah smoking toh moksham or gyanam kani vastundani Krishnudu/Sivudu evaru chepaledu..

its these people who have modified Hinduism to their own taste and practising it -

my(optimist) way of looking at this is, they take out some $ and feed the poor the ISKCON temple, that is very commendable.. rest disco lo vese dance.. who am i to stop them..
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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 06:38 pm:       

it looks to me that as Indian soil was always fertile and the climate was always moderate food might be easily available here without much struggle. So people here did not have to fight for it and so they could not develop the fighting spirit and killer instinct.did not have to develop tools.

actually it could have been the other way round, as food issue was taken care as it was easily available people must have ample time to think and try many new things :-).
 

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Baatasari:

why Krishna didnt document BHagavad gita is English - the UNIVERSAL lang..

mXXdi toh navvalsi vastundi.. pls dont say that..no offense..




Ninnu Hare Krishna gang tho kalpinchali..

they deny Hinduism and say Hinduism is a perversion of Vedic culture

of course, that's because of the helplessness of foreign rule to some extent
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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 06:35 pm:       


Nisarga:

while they can do this why cannot Indians do this and use it to the benefit of country? why do we always try to retrofit things give our ancient references once they are discovered.




you tell me, why cannot you do for benefit of the country..

as for my part - i am doing my 1 paisa contribution to restore glory..

my greatgrandfather was astro,vedic expert.. he hosted Sankaracharya at home..
my grandfather was asked to recite ramayana by Kanchi Seer.. so he neglected Astro, and stuck to Ramayana only..
i realise the importance of it. 1 generation of us already lost the knowledge.. but starting from me, i will restart this, and ensure atleast 1 per generation Kid has to learn Astro..
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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 06:33 pm:       

kummaadu Rao gaaru...
Nagarjuna Sagar...SriSailam...Polavaram...Handri-Neeva...SomaSila...ThotaPalli...VeliGonda...PuliChintala..etc
 

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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 06:32 pm:       

grammar, Yoga, Meditation.. i have posted enuff, dont want to inundate..

pls come out of silly arguements that -

why Krishna didnt document BHagavad gita is English - the UNIVERSAL lang..

mXXdi toh navvalsi vastundi.. pls dont say that..no offense..



BG very conveniently switched from Krishna to Bhagavan - bulk of it was narrated by the God himself, to a WILLING disciple Arjuna..

havent ever come across a westerner who asked - if Krishna narrated, Arjuna heard, then WHO DOCUMENTED ? how did we inherit..

i believe i hav made myself abundantly clear..
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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 06:30 pm:       


Baatasari:

fact that you are unaware of the Indian culture & backgrnd - while there are plenty of westerners migrating to india, learning sanskrit, taking this knowledge back to their home country..




while they can do this why cannot Indians do this and use it to the benefit of country? why do we always try to retrofit things give our ancient references once they are discovered.
 

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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 06:23 pm:       

Chola time is recorded to have a naval warfare almost 1000 yrs back.
We never used that to conquer that’s the difference.
What stopped them to sail and conquer Africa or Far East.
 

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https://www.quora.com/It-is-said-that-Kailasa-Temple-Ellora- was-built-with-the-help-of-aliens-Is-it-true

There is a very very strong research area that other countries are interested in - are Hindu Gods Aliens, esp Shiva ?

i pasted 1 link that i can readily remember, cos of recent memory..
Astrology,vastu, kamasutra, etc lots of examples - where our society was knowledge-wise much more advanced than any other known civilisation..
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As I said before spirituality and later Buddhism valla material conquest was not appreciated in India
Spinning wheel was used in 1600s in India. Silk route, textile and threads were traded between India and China back then.

Islamist invasion was a systemic shock. Most of the conversions were actually Brahmins.if you go to lo Konkani belt and northern Karnataka it’s quite evident. People who could think and question and
Awaken were the first to be converted to propagate the idea of Islam
 

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Nisarga:

at least the elite could have ruled the world with their knowledge. They could have documented it for their own heirs. sake at least.
How come others were able to steal their undocumented knowledge and utilized it?




cos ruling others.. standing an empire - was never our priority..
neither the intention to champion the knowledge..

fact that you are unaware of the Indian culture & backgrnd - while there are plenty of westerners migrating to india, learning sanskrit, taking this knowledge back to their home country..

yours is a personal choice ( for watever your reasons ) -> which leads to ur lineage being unware of these things.. i.e for your clan this knowledge is gone - a typical way lots of generations behaved..
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Nisarga:



Who said Indian intellectual elite did not have anything to offer

Yoga, Ayurveda, oriental philosophy, spirituality, vastu, kamasutra, architecture, trade, agriculture ivanni manaki rest of the world kante atleast 400-500 yrs before unnayiha

We still have them
 

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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 06:13 pm:       

Guys don't divert topic to evils of Hinduism. We are discussing about science and Hinduism. Examples untey cheppandi..
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That should explain, why Left wing brahmastra - Manu"Smriti" is posterboy of oppression..

and i have seen plenty of unrelated, bad, comical examples by others -

you measure the "fwd thinking" "scientific acumen" of the Indian society by the # of SC, sex before marriage, # of SSRN posts, # of IP patents, etc.. i mean comeon..

patience, self evaluation, emancipation.. ivanni backbone of our culture. If some "valuable" knowledge is lost - then you probably didnt deserve it in the first place ?
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Lenin, Infact Hinduism agrees to big bang theory. We agree with time dilation, we agree with multiverse... So Hinduism supports science. What's your problem.. That Hindus should not support science?
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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 06:06 pm:       

i came in, when the thread is well into the 50's.. and the content public essays rastunar, kabatti i cant quote & respond to every Id -

in short, i completely disagree with Lenin's thought process -

Vedic knowledge ( anaga sanskrit nunchi implement ayinadi ) primarily 2 types : Sruthi, Smriti.
https://www.gktoday.in/gk/shruti-smriti/
Smriti is undocumented - that which was passed down verbally..

ika document chesende correct - vallu fools cheyaledu ante - as a personal opinion u r always entitled to think so, but as a generic rhetoric on Hinduism - Please fold it :D

cos it is undocumented, doesnt negate/undermine the genius of the Vedic knowledge.. Astrology being the best example.. Sony read from books but ask yourself - Where is this Bhrigu getting his knowledge from. and whether he documents it or not, whether those r preserved or not .. is upto factors not in Bhrigu's control ( TIme, people ruin it )..
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Lenin, there is bad in all countries. India is always progressive in thought. We might be poorer than west.. But not lacking In progressive thoughts.

As far as hindu science is concerned.. It's just a pride point.. And a hindu publicity about vastness of their thoughts...

If suppose if that same scientist said sun revolves around earth. Or theory of evolution is wrong... Adam and eve is true... Then you critic... We might listen. All he said that kauravas were born in pots... Similar to test tube babies.. So give importance to preserving the science. He didn't say stop learning in universities and start reading vedas.
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Brightlife34:

Cheppa kada. Knowledge was deemed very elitist and controlled by Brahmins
Caste system was a big hindrance. Mana knowledge was predominantly orally disseminated and it was considered a privilege to be a shishya to someone.




at least the elite could have ruled the world with their knowledge. They could have documented it for their own heirs. sake at least.
How come others were able to steal their undocumented knowledge and utilized it?
 

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Khaleja:

s. eellu koda india salaries laga month ki oka 50k to 200k ivvochu ga after tax.





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Thokkalohdi:

We are 20 - 30 years ahead of USA. Any single time in terms of humanity, laws and consciousness




I agree. mana chinnappudu salaries 3k, 6k ala undevi. eellebha USA lo ippudu aa salaries. eellu koda india salaries laga month ki oka 50k to 200k ivvochu ga after tax.
 

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Nanigadulocal:

Lenin uncle ni kummatharu gaa ee roju paatha kakshalu thoo




JAI JANASENA...
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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 05:55 pm:       


Nisarga:

Can India ever has strip clubs like western and other countries ?
Can we ever be allowed to make so bold and explicit movies and get them released?

all even more may be possible in India stealthily but not openly



righto :-)
 

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Thokkalohdi:

Because you never heard the conversation that happens in their family. Lol, talk to a social worker in west...



They do happen, but family nundi veli veyyatam, humiliate cheyyatam undavu kada??

Should I remind you of Maruti rao? does that ever happen in US?
 

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Cheppa kada. Knowledge was deemed very elitist and controlled by Brahmins
Caste system was a big hindrance. Mana knowledge was predominantly orally disseminated and it was considered a privilege to be a shishya to someone.

Western world was more open source type. When we were going through turbulence from
Islamists they learnt the art of sailing and warfare through guns.

Middle East could have taken that spot given their lineage but a mofo born in 600s f’ed em
 

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Because you never heard the conversation that happens in their family. Lol, talk to a social worker in west... How much they suffer because of kids in young age... They wish they can control sex before marraige... They cannot so they give free condoms. The law says that if a adult engages in sex with a minor.. He will be liable for rape?? / assault. Tell me where they don't frown and encourage sex before marriage.

India lo picha common. But adults discourage.
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Pete_sampras:

Thokkalohdi:
Tell me one country that encourages sex before marriage. Or a church??? It happens everywhere... Even in India... I experienced it 18 years back... Read so many novels which had references to sex before marriage... And sex with other partners after marraige.. Very popular novels.

Pete_sampras:
USA and few handful of countries is exception from rest of the western societies..

Australia lanti countries lo its frowned upon kani...edo tappu chesinattu chudaru kada...even in US its same...US, Australia lanti countries lo 16-17 years ki kids untaru...India lo untara??? Western countries lo ala unte humiliate chestara??




Can India ever has strip clubs like western and other countries :-)?
Can we ever be allowed to make so bold and explicit movies and get them released?

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Thokkalohdi:

when was equal rights granted to sc/st??? 1948.

When did black rights movements happened? 1968????



Why we are only talking about US?? Australia lanti countries lo emi ledu kada and I assume many more western societies don't have this issue...India lo village lo still prevalent and antha enduku...this DB is a proof for it :D
 

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Thokkalohdi:




denni emantaru ante just generalize when u can't win an argument and then start running on the surface to take over your enemies..
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Lenin:




A poor man's death is always less important than rich man. Just one year back there was a discussion in New York if they can take all homeless people and push them to some other place. They discussed If homeless shelters are good or bad. Obama care was thought off because poor people are not getting treatment. Turned out arogyasree was better.

So poor man is always less important in any country.
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Thokkalohdi:

Tell me one country that encourages sex before marriage. Or a church??? It happens everywhere... Even in India... I experienced it 18 years back... Read so many novels which had references to sex before marriage... And sex with other partners after marraige.. Very popular novels.




Pete_sampras:

USA and few handful of countries is exception from rest of the western societies..



Australia lanti countries lo its frowned upon kani...edo tappu chesinattu chudaru kada...even in US its same...US, Australia lanti countries lo 16-17 years ki kids untaru...India lo untara??? Western countries lo ala unte humiliate chestara??
 

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manava jathi charitra lo manishi dachukovalani choosindi dabbu okkatey, nothing else..

if ancient Indians were rich in science , then you should blame them for not passing through their wisdom to their next generaions...

manam asale Indians mi...10 paisal teliste , rupai telisinatlu pose kodatam, ekkada link avatledu argument
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Nisarga:

why was the knowledge transferred and utilized it to build technology?



why was the knowledge NOT transferred and utilized it to build technology?
 

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What are the recent greatest inventions and contributions to the modern sciences and technology by India and made in India?
why cannot we stop worrying about Cholesterol numbers and other bio-markers which do not seem to have been talked about in our Ayurveda? Why cannot we rely on Ayurveda only!?
 

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Thokkalohdi:

Ekkada ayna okela treat chestharu




fair living in denial mode

u go with it...nenu kooda India lo ne putti periga...India ante neeku entha istam undo naku anthe undi..but that does n't change the fact

nenu perigina oorlone oka upper caste vadi pranam was never equal to oka mala / madiga pranam
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Lenin:




Ekkada ayna okela treat chestharu. For every bad example you will give I will tell 100 good ones... Which will never publish cause that's considered normal.
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Brightlife34:

Material inventions and others were not deemed an end goal of life in itself. So when we had period of peace out tech advancement stopped in a way.
Then centuries of struggle and invasions started. Whatever we know we did not document




then at least pass this message to your students Mr.VC

yes , we had years of glory and then we were brutally attacked by the external forces and they destroyed even a tiny bit of our extraordinary scientific procedures ani

that will do...
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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 05:38 pm:       

As some one already asked:
If India was already so scientific;

why was the knowledge transferred and utilized it to build technology?
was the knowledge documented with the theory and experimentation method?
why does in India still lack scientific fervor and vigor?
why could it be protected itself from external invasions?
why is the average IQ of India is so low despite it's grand history!?

https://new-iq-test.com/iq-by-country/

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Nehru pancharatan policy 1950s?? When did west adopt non violence? Still counting... 70 years ahead.
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Thokkalohdi:


Malls lo kaalchi dguthunnara? Schools lo kaalchi dguthunnara?




e schools lo kalchatam anedi emaina legislation chesara

oka manishi chanipouye stage lo unte India lo ela treat chestaru , west lo ela chestaru anedi neeku telisi matladuthunnava leka teliyaka matladuthunnava?
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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 05:37 pm:       


Lenin:

apart from Hindus, did any one else in this world recognize that Kurukshetra battle took place 5000 years back or so?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=21&v=n8H7Jibx-c0

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Advent of Buddhism created confusion. Material inventions and others were not deemed an end goal of life in itself. So when we had period of peace out tech advancement stopped in a way.
Then centuries of struggle and invasions started. Whatever we know we did not document
 

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Lenin:




Manishini manishi laaga west lo chusthara??

Nallodu brown gaadu Desi gaadu... Adollu, gay gallu... Andariki value isthunnada?

Malls lo kaalchi dguthunnara? Schools lo kaalchi dguthunnara?
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Sony:

roman empire emaindi, who had their own set of science




who is here giving acknowledgement to Roman inventions except those ones which were materialized?
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Lenin:



apart from Hindus, did any one else in this world recognize that Kurukshetra battle took place 5000 years back or so?


yes it was recongized, if the place that was recognized is debatable, then jesus birth place is also equally debatable
 

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Pete_sampras:

religion and caste


when was equal rights granted to sc/st??? 1948.

When did black rights movements happened? 1968????
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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 05:32 pm:       


Sony:

em kavali neeku mahabharatam jarigina area, timeline tho saha undi




apart from Hindus, did any one else in this world recognize that Kurukshetra battle took place 5000 years back or so?

18 akshouhinula sainyam tho antha pedda war jarigite vere evadu choodaleda?

and according to Mahabharata, almost most of the kingdoms on the earth participated in it...

Alexander India vachadu ani India lo cheppukunnaru, Greek / Macedonians raskunnaru..atlane aMahabharata gurinchi kooda okadu anna rayali kada?

there was the mention of kingdomes like Mlecha and some other which I don't remember now
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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 05:31 pm:       


Lenin:



boat and steam engine boat are the same?


concept is to travel on water, ippudu cheppu end product same aa kaada
 

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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 05:30 pm:       

Transfer of knowledge was partly because of deep rooted caste issues accumulated over generations. People with knowledge cane to be known as Brahmins and such people over time became elitist. They started to decide who can disseminate knowledge and to whom.
Also guru shishya tradition believed in oral communication of knowledge.

I am not saying we had most advanced tech and science I am saying our mode of education forbade open transfer which would have given world many inventions. There were disruptions here and there and not documented well.
 

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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 05:30 pm:       


Lenin:



yes, that's the hard rule...that's how civilizations made giant leaps


roman empire emaindi, who had their own set of science

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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 05:30 pm:       


Pete_sampras:




Tell me one country that encourages sex before marriage. Or a church??? It happens everywhere... Even in India... I experienced it 18 years back... Read so many novels which had references to sex before marriage... And sex with other partners after marraige.. Very popular novels.

If you think there was no sex before marraige in India in 1950s or 1960s... God bless you with some light. :-)
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Sony:

vadu boat nadapaledaa? steam engine ye goppa antavaa

amalgamating metals ante evadu silver, gold ornaments cheyaleda

lekunte diamond ni break cheyadaniki granite use cheyaleda (granite use cheyadam kuda first india lone jarignidi afaik)




boat and steam engine boat are the same?
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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 05:29 pm:       


Lenin:



He is a VC of university...without empirical evidence , he can not simply give those assertions


endi ayya empirical evidence ante em kavali neeku mahabharatam jarigina area, timeline tho saha undi
 

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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 05:28 pm:       


Sony:

is that hard rule?




yes, that's the hard rule...that's how civilizations made giant leaps

Nuv astrology lo expert vi...but how did u become? just by self reading the books like jaimini parasara, jataka ratnavali or some other books..

that means they were scripted and that wealth of knowledge has traversed generations
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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 05:28 pm:       


Sony:

aryabhatta designed calculus, basis for physics and engineering




have not heard of it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leibniz%E2%80%93Newton_calculu s_controversy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_calculus
 

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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 05:27 pm:       

Kikiki. Vellu manaki professors inka India bagu padinatte
beedi hatavoo desh batchavoooooo
 

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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 05:27 pm:       


Lenin:

and mind you, am talking about industrial advancement, handling , amalgamating the metals , inventing steam engine and several other machinary which helped mankind to make progress from 17th century or so...why don't u talk about it?


ante antaka mundara ivi evi leva?

evadu boat nadapaledaa? steam engine ye goppa antavaa

amalgamating metals ante evadu silver, gold ornaments cheyaleda

lekunte diamond ni break cheyadaniki granite use cheyaleda (granite use cheyadam kuda first india lone jarignidi afaik)
 

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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 05:26 pm:       


Sony:

Acharya said Mahabharatam lo test tube baby concept undadam tappa? adi nijam kaadu antava

what is wrong if he claims that India had advanced scientific knowledge?




He is a VC of university...without empirical evidence , he can not simply give those assertions
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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 05:25 pm:       


Lenin:



A man with that level of ingenious capabilities will and benevolence will definitely let it go..


is that hard rule?
 

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Sony:

aryabhatta designed calculus, basis for physics and engineering

so called newton's laws gravity basis was calculus

yes knoweldge gets transferred




A man with that level of ingenious capabilities will and benevolence will definitely let it go..

and mind you, am talking about industrial advancement, handling , amalgamating the metals , inventing steam engine and several other machinary which helped mankind to make progress from 17th century or so...why don't u talk about it?
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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 05:24 pm:       

what is your point? Acharya said Mahabharatam lo test tube baby concept undadam tappa? adi nijam kaadu antava

what is wrong if he claims that India had advanced scientific knowledge?
 

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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 05:22 pm:       


Sony:

ven today in some villages in AP and tamilnadu, kid gender boy ye kavali ani chemical altercation chestaru telusaa?




if that is true...at least one business man would have captured the procedure and patented it and started selling it

you are telling as if all these things are happening in a parallel world , where there is no entry for capitalists, no entry for mainstream media
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Lenin:

Arybhatta zero invent chesadu proably few other theorems


aa few theorems ye important, neeku zero okate telusu

aryabhatta designed calculus, basis for physics and engineering

so called newton's laws gravity basis was calculus

yes knoweldge gets transferred
 

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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 05:20 pm:       


Sony:

calculus ni ela dobbukuni poyaru western societies idea undaa?




e 'dobbukupotam' enti bedaru?

it's knowledge and it's transferable..unless the scientists or sages who invented them are mighty greedy and does n't want to share the knowledge it's highly unlikely to happen


Arybhatta zero invent chesadu proably few other theorems , who denied it..but we stopped there

industrialization era vachesariki India venakapadipoindi
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Lenin:

if you have created a technology like artificial insemination in BC, then you definitely would have the capability to record the procedure and document it...as simple as that


hushh! even today in some villages in AP and tamilnadu, kid gender boy ye kavali ani chemical altercation chestaru telusaa?
 

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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 05:17 pm:       


Sony:

untries had Mesopotamian Civilization which had scientific advancement too, what happened to it?




were they advanced civilizations or super human races? let me clarify...they were well ahead of times but if they claim that they have designed aircraft in BC times, then I will laugh at them too...

if you have created a technology like artificial insemination in BC, then you definitely would have the capability to record the procedure and document it...as simple as that
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Lenin:

all the Hindu claims are just bookish , nothing has been formulated even if they are, then no one has practiced to show the world


mari adey, vedic mathematics ani all are formulated

do you know great mathematician called "AryaBhatta"
 

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Lenin:

all the inventions, technological advancement that are recognized in this world have some sort of mathematical / scientific formulations associated with them...


calculus ni ela dobbukuni poyaru western societies idea undaa?
 

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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 05:12 pm:       

all the inventions, technological advancement that are recognized in this world have some sort of mathematical / scientific formulations associated with them...

without that you can not replicate or produce any thing, there is a SOP for every damn invention in this world , if not one then multiple


all the Hindu claims are just bookish , nothing has been formulated even if they are, then no one has practiced to show the world


it's not about questioning one religion...it's about science vs belief..

again , I'm no ignorant to say that science is every thing, there are several things that were unexplained by science and above the understanding of probably every human being on this earth...this is the grey area where religion comes in and each religion sneaks in to claim those occurrences because of some supernatural power
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Sony:

if India has that advanced technology why it has n't been transferred to the next generation? where it went ?


India sangathi pakka pedite SouthAmerican Countries had Mesopotamian Civilization which had scientific advancement too, what happened to it?
 

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Thokkalohdi:

We are 20 - 30 years ahead of USA.



USA and few handful of countries is exception from rest of the western societies..
 

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Lenin:




bro..if you take this debate to international arena and then try to convince any sane scientist , get a nod from him..we will talk then

every country will have it's own mythological write ups...

simple and straight question..if India has that advanced technology why it has n't been transferred to the next generation? where it went ?

again u will come up with some doomsday story...enough of it


BS, sodi antha oddu If Bible writes some scientific stuff, is that acceptable to those so called International arena

dont get fooled by so called "international arena" thing
 

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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 05:09 pm:       


Thokkalohdi:

Give me an example. Everytime you give me an example compare to exact year/age in western world.



Sex before marriage...
Religion and Caste
 

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Thokkalohdi:

e are 20 - 30 years ahead of USA. Any single time in terms of humanity, laws and consciousness




give me a break...mundu manishi ni manishi laga choodandi , prananiki value ivvandi

we are not ahead, but we are born suckers and the pet name we give to our opportunism is 'patience'
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Commies have half baked brains




nee bathukki nenu post este nannu oka manishi laga choodu mundu..commy , love da ani indirect group abuse kakanda

communism, capitalism crap vadilesi na opinion ni choodu...this is my last reply in this forum to your clueless rhetorics
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We are 20 - 30 years ahead of USA. Any single time in terms of humanity, laws and consciousness
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Sony:




bro..if you take this debate to international arena and then try to convince any sane scientist , get a nod from him..we will talk then

every country will have it's own mythological write ups...

simple and straight question..if India has that advanced technology why it has n't been transferred to the next generation? where it went ?

again u will come up with some doomsday story...enough of it
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Pete_sampras:


Who said we are conservative? Give me an example. Everytime you give me an example compare to exact year/age in western world. Lets see... How you will prove that we are conservative
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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 05:02 pm:       


Pete_sampras:

The bigger question is how did india become so conservative nation from being a progressive place




beautiful question...simple answer due to barbarc invasions....
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Lenin just for balancing act. Follow subash kak...
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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 04:57 pm:       

The bigger question is how did india become so conservative nation from being a progressive place
 

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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 04:51 pm:       

Lenin uncle ni kummatharu gaa ee roju paatha kakshalu thoo
 

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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 04:46 pm:       

Dronacharya, Kripa Charya, Kirpa charya's sister Kripi (also wife of drona) all 3 were test tubes too
 

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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 04:44 pm:       

Commies have half baked brains
they can only undestand what they like

Hattiga ante, edustaru malli
 

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Gandhari becomes first pregnant and she had the embryo for more than 19 months

then large fetus comes out of her tummy, which is very big

aa taravat vedavyas divides that fetus into 100 parts and put them in cold pot first one to born from that pot was SUyodhana
 

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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 04:42 pm:       

Yes they were test tube babies, what is the problem
 

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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 04:41 pm:       


Lenin:

Kauravas were test tube babies


Correct ne kada?

Mahabharatham prakaram Kaurava's born in pots (matti kunda)... Old communist books chadivithe ee vishayam comedy chesetollu, kundallo puttadam enti... Science prakaram only mother womb lo ne pudataaru ani...

Vi veri universum vivus vici
 

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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 04:26 pm:       

https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/kauravas-were-test-tu be-babies-ravana-had-24-types-of-aircrafts-andhra-university -v-cs-presentation-at-indian-science-congress/article2591564 5.ece

inka chala chepparu acharyula varu...

evadra akkada, Modi ki cheppandi...Vizag MP seat ki BJP ki contestant dorikadu

kummeyyandi...AU and affiliated colleges students votes anni Nageswara Rao ke
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