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Jacksparrow
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Post Number: 5704 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 78.137.141.112
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2013 - 11:28 am: |
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Zulu:kotha ga converted gallaki kasi ekkuva ani proved once again
time and again  |
   
Zulu
Hero Username: Zulu
Post Number: 16650 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 199.168.243.252
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2013 - 11:24 am: |
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uncles...kottukovodhu seap ga |
   
Don_draper
Junior Artist Username: Don_draper
Post Number: 371 Registered: 12-2012 Posted From: 68.34.82.195
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2013 - 11:19 am: |
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Kalikaalam:when there is severe drought since 1972, water tankers tho drinking water tholinchi holi celebrations jarupukonna asaram bapu meeda kooda oka post esipo...padi untadi...
"when there is severe drought since 1972, water tankers tho drinking water tholinchi holi celebrations jarupukonna asaram bapu meeda kooda oka post esipo...padi untadi... " |
   
Kalikaalam
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Post Number: 7243 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 171.159.64.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2013 - 11:15 am: |
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Truelies:minga methuku ledu kaani, manam meesalaku sampangi nune ki mathram thakkuva ledu....nee darunalu pratheykanga cheppala endi...
yenti?? yedo back drop vunnatlu vundi. ardham kaaledu. |
   
Tilak
Hero Username: Tilak
Post Number: 13270 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.172.116
Rating:  Votes: 5 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2013 - 10:59 am: |
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Truelies:minga methuku ledu kaani, manam meesalaku sampangi nune ki mathram thakkuva ledu....nee darunalu pratheykanga cheppala endi...
nee gurinchi nuvvu aalochinchuko chaalu .. naaku emi undi .. em ledu .. em kaavali .. em vaddu .. nenu chusukunta .. "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
   
Truelies
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Post Number: 8011 Registered: 05-2012 Posted From: 74.237.6.152
Rating:  Votes: 4 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2013 - 10:54 am: |
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Tilak:5 water tankers tho .. 10000 people holi chesukunte naakem abhyantaram ledu .. nenu antha darunam ga matladatam inka start cheyyaledu ..
minga methuku ledu kaani, manam meesalaku sampangi nune ki mathram thakkuva ledu....nee darunalu pratheykanga cheppala endi... |
   
Tilak
Hero Username: Tilak
Post Number: 13269 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.172.116
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2013 - 10:50 am: |
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Jacksparrow:deenexmma evadino blame sesenduku emi ledu... mana politians/govts successfully screwed us...
agreed .. but i also think greed dominates globalization .. hence this is what we see .. "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
   
Tilak
Hero Username: Tilak
Post Number: 13268 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.172.116
Rating:  Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2013 - 10:49 am: |
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Truelies:when there is severe drought since 1972, water tankers tho drinking water tholinchi holi celebrations jarupukonna asaram bapu meeda kooda oka post esipo...padi untadi...
5 water tankers tho .. 10000 people holi chesukunte naakem abhyantaram ledu .. nenu antha darunam ga matladatam inka start cheyyaledu .. Zulu:ikkada mana vallaki wastage ki u.s.culture ki link pedithey kalathandi kani..there are many US liberals who slam the us culture of wastage on a regular basis..and they compare it with europe and canada..
heard that too .. nenu US lo pani chesinappudu naa ex boss lived in Bangalore for an year .. she used to tell the entire team on how to live with less resources (not sermonizing but as an example) and used to quote India .. "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
   
Jacksparrow
Side Hero Username: Jacksparrow
Post Number: 5702 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 78.137.141.112
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2013 - 10:48 am: |
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Tilak:http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/kerala/cocacola-liable -to-pay-damages-worth-rs-21626-crore/article264717.ece
from ur link, * The water resources of the area have been affected and water scarcity has been compounded. * By passing off the sludge as manure, the Company has not only misguided the farmers but has become responsible for the soil degradation, water contamination and consequential loss of agriculture. * There has been a steady decline in the agriculture production in the area. * The production of milk, meat and eggs also has suffered. * Metals like cadmium, lead and chromium have been detected in the sludge and this has affected the health of the people. * The general health of the people has been affected with skin ailments, breathing problems and other debilities..... deenexmma evadino blame sesenduku emi ledu... mana politians/govts successfully screwed us... |
   
Zulu
Hero Username: Zulu
Post Number: 16638 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 199.168.243.252
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2013 - 10:41 am: |
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Tilak:I am not trying to bash any one particular country .. but let us call a spade a spade ..
kotha ga converted gallaki kasi ekkuva ani proved once again ,(j/k..karicheyyakandi).. ikkada mana vallaki wastage ki u.s.culture ki link pedithey kalathandi kani..there are many US liberals who slam the us culture of wastage on a regular basis..and they compare it with europe and canada.. again, culture ante church lo nerchukunedi..or amma nanna cheppedi ane udhesam tho vadaledhu..over a period of time..govt policies have influence on our culture. |
   
Truelies
Side Hero Username: Truelies
Post Number: 8006 Registered: 05-2012 Posted From: 74.237.6.152
Rating:  Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2013 - 10:35 am: |
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Tilak: punishing poor people .. and allowing rich to exploit resources and enjoy irresponsibly ..
when there is severe drought since 1972, water tankers tho drinking water tholinchi holi celebrations jarupukonna asaram bapu meeda kooda oka post esipo...padi untadi... |
   
Tilak
Hero Username: Tilak
Post Number: 13265 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.172.116
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2013 - 10:32 am: |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_streetcar_conspi racy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_streetcar_conspi racy#Conviction.2C_.241_fine .. 1$ fine for such a big conspiracy ..  "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
   
Chillarodu
Side Hero Username: Chillarodu
Post Number: 3353 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 173.162.149.129
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2013 - 10:32 am: |
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Not related to topic... http://thecnnfreedomproject.blogs.cnn.com/2013/03/20/toddler s-freed-from-brick-kiln-bondage/?hpt=hp_c1 This is main page article in CNN today about slavery (child labor) in India |
   
Tilak
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Post Number: 13263 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.172.116
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2013 - 10:26 am: |
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Zulu: Recently foundout that frieght trains have right-of-way over passenger trains..hence the sad state of train transportation in US..holy guacamole.. I still believe culture and policy are used interchangably in this thread..but then again if you become comfortable with a policy, it becomes your culture.
I am not trying to bash any one particular country .. but let us call a spade a spade .. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_prim ary_energy_consumption_and_production enti aa energy consumption? US figures ki .. Canada figures ki emanna sambandam unda? Canada is a bigger country with fewer population and worse climate compared to US .. and look at their figures .. nenu ekkado chadiva .. in the early 1940s .. how US killed its public transport system .. to encourage private companies like Ford and GM .. and it was all deliberate .. will try to find out that link .. but correct me if I am wrong .. "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
   
Zulu
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Post Number: 16635 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 199.168.243.252
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2013 - 10:17 am: |
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Tilak: .. US lo public transport system develop avvakunda .. interstates/gas guzzlers system develop avvatam lo mee tappu emi ledu .. kaani atleast US govt ki istara aa tappu ki accountability?
Now, we are talking.. Recently foundout that frieght trains have right-of-way over passenger trains..hence the sad state of train transportation in US..holy guacamole.. I still believe culture and policy are used interchangably in this thread..but then again if you become comfortable with a policy, it becomes your culture. |
   
Thelegend
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Post Number: 23250 Registered: 04-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2013 - 10:16 am: |
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Kalikaalam:
Soft drinks maa intlo kooda zero, Pkg Juices kooda takkuve but not zero |
   
Tilak
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Post Number: 13261 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.172.116
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2013 - 10:07 am: |
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Jacksparrow:tilakai, past lo globalization effects on food okati gurtundaa... food exports ani dappu kottukotam kaadu kaani we r literally giving away the water for nothing and importing drought...
totally agreed .. http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/kerala/cocacola-liable -to-pay-damages-worth-rs-21626-crore/article264717.ece this is what it has come to .. punishing poor people .. and allowing rich to exploit resources and enjoy irresponsibly .. "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
   
Jacksparrow
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Post Number: 5700 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 78.137.141.112
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2013 - 10:01 am: |
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Tilak:colonization? globalization?
tilakai, past lo globalization effects on food okati gurtundaa... food exports ani dappu kottukotam kaadu kaani we r literally giving away the water for nothing and importing drought... |
   
Pani_paata_ledhu
Junior Artist Username: Pani_paata_ledhu
Post Number: 31 Registered: 02-2013 Posted From: 74.11.15.114
Rating:  Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2013 - 10:00 am: |
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Ila kadhu kani.. Lets list environment friendly things each of us or our friends do, someone else might give it a try too, my 2 cents for betterment. :-), emantaru? |
   
~chirutha~
Junior Artist Username: ~chirutha~
Post Number: 659 Registered: 10-2011 Posted From: 91.103.42.50
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2013 - 09:34 am: |
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Zulu:some things are passed on to us..from generations..even if their exact intent is not to be environment friendly...lack of affordability ani trivialize cheyyatam konchum shallow thinking anipisthundi..
I am trying to say this, you already said it!! Be Kool  |
   
~chirutha~
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Post Number: 658 Registered: 10-2011 Posted From: 91.103.42.50
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2013 - 09:31 am: |
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Kalikaalam:maa intlo any soft drink/bottled juice koni yennellu ayyindo kudaa gurthu ledu. intikochina guests ki kudaa serve cheyyamu.
I started on these lines. There are n number of people who live carefully like you or like someone else in India too. We don't have to generalize one country in view of one generation or one set of people.
Simba:If we had lived like cavemen, there would be much less carbon footprint on mother nature.
There was no necessity of terms like carbon footprint decades ago. Then cant you see we don't have to be like cavemen to remove carbon footprint ;)
Tilak:luxury peru tho consumptive economy build chesukuni .. produce chesedaanikante ekkuva spend chestoo .. materially .. earth lo ni resources ni darunam ga exploit cheyyadam lo ardam enti?
Well said. This is 100% true. Even alanti situation ni luxury ani kuda oppukovadam ledu. Sad! Be Kool  |
   
~chirutha~
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Post Number: 657 Registered: 10-2011 Posted From: 91.103.42.50
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2013 - 09:23 am: |
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Anand_n:Meeru India lo untara ?
Yes. Naku americans tho peddaga parichayame ledu. Warren Buffet gurinchi vinnanu. Aayina ela life lead chestaroo kuda telusu. But ayana sampadinchina teeru, aa theeru lo elanti thappoppulu jarigaayo, aa sampadinchina amount carbon foot-print tagginchadaniki ela upayogincharoo nenu epudu vina ledu :P Anand_n:I would have loved to delve into those but have a busy day ahead
I am looking forward to it, Meeru chese arguments clear ga untayi. I respect them. Be Kool  |
   
Tilak
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Post Number: 13254 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.172.116
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2013 - 09:13 am: |
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Kalikaalam:culture/govt ane words interchangeable gaa use chesaademo theliyadu.
no .. Simba tried to argue that .. increase in consumption of resources is just "theory of evolution" .. my point is .. evolution ki .. cultural/historical narrative .. mana individual decisions (govts) .. along with geography contribute chestayi .. so .. dont brush off humongous consumption as unavoidable .. there is a point in culture (even if it is dynamic) contributing to your evolution .. "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
   
Kalikaalam
Side Hero Username: Kalikaalam
Post Number: 7236 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 171.161.160.10
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2013 - 09:06 am: |
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Anand_n:I know a lot of American people and families who live within their means and simply
I agree. Kaani TILAk cheppe daanlto kuda konni valid points vunnaayi.Miru yentha mi limits lo vundalanukonna, ikkada situation co-operative gaa vundadu. Example:means of transportation.work ki car lone vellali. Naaku resourses waste cheyyalani ledu. kaani naaku vere maargam ledu.Ilaantiivi chaalaa vundi vuntaayi.culture/govt ane words interchangeable gaa use chesaademo theliyadu. Asalu US govt, East coast ni yenduku encourage chesindo naaku ardham kaadu.yedi anna valid reasons vunnayemo thleiyadu kaani, yi area ni winter lo maintain cheyyalante oka coutry ki saripade resources waste avuthunnaayi kadaa(heatign and transportation fo goods etc..) |
   
Anand_n
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Post Number: 13202 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 166.137.119.33
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2013 - 08:55 am: |
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~chirutha~:
Meeru India lo untara ? I know a lot of American people and families who live within their means and simply - and if you want an extreme example - warren buffet You brought up some good points and I would have loved to delve into those but have a busy day ahead Some other time  The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim |
   
Kalikaalam
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Post Number: 7234 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 171.161.160.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2013 - 08:50 am: |
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coke, pepsi..yedi anna avanivvandi.Yevadu kanukkonnadu anedi ikkada anavsaram. vaadi avasarm kodhi vaadu kanukkonaadu. Vaadi dabbu kosam legal gaa prapaancham antha ammukovalani chusthaadu. Cultural gaa strong gaa vunnapapudu miru maaneyyochu kdaa?"memu kadali phalam, Naarikela paaniyam thappithe thaagam' ani maanuko vachu kadaa?? yevariki vallu sontham gaa cheyyalsina panulu. Sontha dabba ani anukovadhu. maa intlo any soft drink/bottled juice koni yennellu ayyindo kudaa gurthu ledu. intikochina guests ki kudaa serve cheyyamu.period.. |
   
Tilak
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Post Number: 13249 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.172.116
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2013 - 08:47 am: |
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Kalikaalam:naa point: nenu work ki vellaali ante car lo vellali, Vere maaragam ledu. idi nakau necessity. Bus/train facility vunna akudaa, 'nakau dabbu vundi kaabatti' car lo velathaanu ante luxury..ani naamenaing.
ya .. US lo public transport system develop avvakunda .. interstates/gas guzzlers system develop avvatam lo mee tappu emi ledu .. kaani atleast US govt ki istara aa tappu ki accountability? Kalikaalam: Naa bottomline:yes. Khachitham gaa yevari ki vaallu responsible gaa resources ni kharchu pettukovaali. Kaani yi alavaatu culture ni batti vasthundi ante oppukonu(Yi culture topic miru thchindi kaadu)
sarigga ardam chesukondi .. anni cultures okate kaadu .. ala aithe .. "cultures" ani vaadamu .. culture ane vaadatamu .. and more over .. konni cultures and attitudes conservative .. konni kaadu .. adi kuda proven fact ee .. "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
   
Tilak
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Post Number: 13248 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.172.116
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2013 - 08:44 am: |
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Simba:Let me give my answer in simple terms. Everyone on this globe are consuming more materials leaving lot of carbon footprint. The scale is different between India and US. It's matter of time (years) before Indians reach the US scale in consumption. There are no morals involved here.
Let me further simplify it. Everyone on this globe is now in a dog-eat-dog world and have to compete economically to survive - under the globalization pretext. By the time - India reaches US on the scale of consumption, US would have left every one else faaar behind (going by today's trajectory). Yes, there are no morals involved in a dog-eat-dog world now. "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
   
Kalikaalam
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Post Number: 7233 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 173.49.21.61
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2013 - 08:43 am: |
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~chirutha~:When we are talking about given set of resources in Mother Earth we can't say Needs, necessities and Luxury are variable and relevant to one-self. They will and have to become global-specific as others are impacted. Hope you understand my point.
naa point: nenu work ki vellaali ante car lo vellali, Vere maaragam ledu. idi nakau necessity. Bus/train facility vunna akudaa, 'nakau dabbu vundi kaabatti' car lo velathaanu ante luxury..ani naamenaing. Kaabatti situation ni batti maaruthundi anukontunnaanu. Naa bottomline:yes. Khachitham gaa yevari ki vaallu responsible gaa resources ni kharchu pettukovaali. Kaani yi alavaatu culture ni batti vasthundi ante oppukonu(Yi culture topic miru thchindi kaadu) |
   
Simba
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Post Number: 9684 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 206.210.17.33
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2013 - 08:39 am: |
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Tilak:simple .. answer is govts ..
Are govts. not Indians? Let me give my answer in simple terms. Everyone on this globe are consuming more materials leaving lot of carbon footprint. The scale is different between India and US. It's matter of time (years) before Indians reach the US scale in consumption. There are no morals involved here. |
   
Tilak
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Post Number: 13246 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.172.116
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2013 - 08:28 am: |
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Simba:Compare the materialism found in India from 1947 to now. You still want to blame British for messing up with our minds? Once independent, Indian have no obligation to ape west. Why this trend? They are free to ban any foreign products but why isn't happening?
for once .. you can try to answer those questions and then let us know .. right? After independence .. everything should have changed .. nothing did .. why? simple .. answer is govts .. "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
   
Tilak
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Post Number: 13245 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.172.116
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2013 - 08:27 am: |
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Simba:Theory of Evolution? Let's go back to stone age. Indian sub-continent lo 5000 years nundi civilization undhi antaru kada. Why did west follow east to learn how to make farm, build houses, make weapons etc. If we had lived like cavemen, there would be much less carbon footprint on mother nature.
first thing - more carbon foot print - not equal to evolution .. second thing - development vaddu ani evaranna annara? evolve avvadam lo carbon foot print ni light teesukuni ecology ni kampu lepacha? third thing - avasaraniki resources vaadukovadam lo ardam undi .. luxury peru tho consumptive economy build chesukuni .. produce chesedaanikante ekkuva spend chestoo .. materially .. earth lo ni resources ni darunam ga exploit cheyyadam lo ardam enti? what explains .. US consuming 35-40% of resources of the world? "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
   
Simba
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Post Number: 9683 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 206.210.27.33
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2013 - 08:20 am: |
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Tilak:colonization? globalization? mental slavery? whats ur choice?
Compare the materialism found in India from 1947 to now. You still want to blame British for messing up with our minds? Once independent, Indian have no obligation to ape west. Why this trend? They are free to ban any foreign products but why isn't happening? |
   
Tilak
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Post Number: 13242 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.172.116
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2013 - 08:15 am: |
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Simba:Then why did indians adopt such materialistic pleasure (AC, Fridge etc). Idivaraku leni avasaram ippudu enduku vacchindi?
colonization? globalization? mental slavery? whats ur choice? "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
   
Simba
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Post Number: 9682 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 206.210.17.33
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2013 - 08:14 am: |
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~chirutha~:Nenu cheppindi ade, we are driven towards western psyche and we started living like them partially. Karanalu vadilesi end lo Indians ni thappu cheyyadhu antunnanu.
Theory of Evolution? Let's go back to stone age. Indian sub-continent lo 5000 years nundi civilization undhi antaru kada. Why did west follow east to learn how to make farm, build houses, make weapons etc. If we had lived like cavemen, there would be much less carbon footprint on mother nature.  |
   
~chirutha~
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Post Number: 656 Registered: 10-2011 Posted From: 91.103.42.50
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2013 - 08:06 am: |
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Simba:Then why did indians adopt such materialistic pleasure (AC, Fridge etc). Idivaraku leni avasaram ippudu enduku vacchindi?
Nenu cheppindi ade, we are driven towards western psyche and we started living like them partially. Karanalu vadilesi end lo Indians ni thappu cheyyadhu antunnanu. If a mayor Simba:New York mayor wants to limit sugar products limited to 16 ounce
Ofcourse there is always good if you dig deep in anything. Adi saaku ga pettukuni Western impact lene ledu ante I can't help. As you say, In the case of Soft drinks, you can see yourself that there are many factors why we have adopted them. Indian administration, Political advantages, Commercial breakthroughs etc., Be Kool  |
   
~chirutha~
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Post Number: 655 Registered: 10-2011 Posted From: 91.103.42.50
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2013 - 07:55 am: |
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Kalikaalam:Yi comparison yela kuduruthundi? idhari economic, social, waetaher condiotions okka laaga lenappudu idi 'comparing apples with oranges'
Looking at the earlier posts, I am in a notion that there is a comparision going on and I still think so.
Kalikaalam:Dabbu raagaane 'culture ki thuch' annarante, aa culture antha balam gaa vunnatlu lekka.
We are talking about carbon foot-print by different countries. Asalu culture gurinchi ikkada nenu disco cheyyane ledu. Meeru ala anesariki.. okka sari I went through my posts if I was discussing on culture :P Btw your comment Kalikaalam:Needs, necessities, and luxury ki kudaa situation ni batti defniiton maruthu vuntundi..
I dont agree sir. When we are talking about given set of resources in Mother Earth we can't say Needs, necessities and Luxury are variable and relevant to one-self. They will and have to become global-specific as others are impacted. Hope you understand my point. Be Kool  |
   
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~chirutha~:Pepsi/Cola kanukkundi evaru? AC, Refrigerators evaru kanukunnaru? Manaku idi varaku avasarame erpada leda.. Manake kada Enda ekkuva inka!? Em manaki scientific knowledge and resources leva .. Manamu one of the best knowledge outsourcers kaada ?
Let's say, US is just after materialism and doesn't give much hoot the morals. Then why did indians adopt such materialistic pleasure (AC, Fridge etc). Idivaraku leni avasaram ippudu enduku vacchindi? Do you know why Indian govt. banned Coca Cola in 1977? It is not because of prohibiting sugary drinks but to remove competition for Indian soft drinks. After the so called Liberalization of Economics (PVNR Govt), they opened doors for foreign product to make money. Why do you think indians are riding high horse over the west? FYI... New York mayor wants to limit sugar products limited to 16 ounce. And, now he wants tobacco products not be sold in plain sight. Talk about responsibility!! http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/supersize_smack_TebHeJsmQ xoOjqawvfuXRL http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/18/17358772-after-bi g-soda-ban-nycs-mayor-bloomberg-wants-to-hide-cigarettes?lit e |
   
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~chirutha~:And Luxury is Grand-father of Balupu and Desire.
Needs, necessities, and luxury ki kudaa situation ni batti defniiton maruthu vuntundi.. yemi ayinaa oka culture lo responsibbilty yekkuva, inkoka culture lo lot of irrepsonsibilty ani yevaranna ante, adi just arrogance or ignorance.. Anand_n cheppinatluu gaa dabbu financial conditons maarinakaa kuda aa culture alaage continue avuthunte, they deserve apreciation. Dabbu raagaane 'culture ki thuch' annarante, aa culture antha balam gaa vunnatlu lekka. |
   
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~chirutha~:And can you tell me how many of US citizens has this habit of saving and living life simple as compared to those of India?!
Yi comparison yela kuduruthundi? idhari economic, social, waetaher condiotions okka laaga lenappudu idi 'comparing apples with oranges' avuthundi.Example:Eastcoast lo peak winter lo inti size ni batti 200 to 500 dollars heating bill vasthundi. Adi india lo vundadu. Alaage ikkada work ki vellalante car lo vellali. Akkada bus vuntundi..alaage incomes lo kudaa chaalaa theda vuntundi. Kaabatti saving chese chances ni batti vuntundi. |
   
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~chirutha~:And Luxury is Grand-father of Balupu and Desire.
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Anand_n:Necessity is the mother of invention ...
And Luxury is Grand-father of Balupu and Desire.
Anand_n:US was always spread out - sparsely populated - people invented machinery to ease their workload ...
Ante US lo avasaram merake Carbon foot-print vadultunnaru antunnara ? Ok. Here goes the stats. Per Person emissions in tonnes US - 18.1 and India - 1.4 You can check the source here http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/datablog/2012/jun/21/w orld-carbon-emissions-league-table-country Carbon foot print in this new age world would go high along with economic stature of that country. I am sure India would leave a higher foot print in coming age as it has scope for economic betterment.
Anand_n:Culture evolves based on what is available in a location - daniki morality antagattam tappu antunnanu
Ofcourse, morality undabatte inka dabbulu jagratha ga karchubette alavatu unnavallu unnaru India lo. This behavior is directly related to Carbon fo0t-print. I am sure many would agree on this. And can you tell me how many of US citizens has this habit of saving and living life simple as compared to those of India?! Be Kool  |
   
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Anand_n:Because if it was in our culture/blood/etc..we should have continued to sleep under trees and eat from banana leaves and only drink coconut water and be happy
Ante law of continuity undalantunnara!? Adi entha varaku sadhyam.. External forces undava denikaina.. So thats why I say, we can't generalize India by this generation's behavior. I still agree, we as Indians can improve a lot and refrain from wasting natural resources. But at the same time I would like to say today's world is highly influenced by the materialistic westerns. Pepsi/Cola kanukkundi evaru? AC, Refrigerators evaru kanukunnaru? Manaku idi varaku avasarame erpada leda.. Manake kada Enda ekkuva inka!? Em manaki scientific knowledge and resources leva .. Manamu one of the best knowledge outsourcers kaada ? Oka chetho pepsi andisthu.. Noti tho neethulu cheppadam vidduram ga undi antunna. I would like to improve / We have to improve ofcourse. Be Kool  |
   
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Mental_sachinodu:Ownership and concept undhi choosaaru, amogh idea ..... Abilities addu vachaayi kaani, leka pothe Gaali, , varsham kooda own chesukune vallam.... Just dint how ya...
Adam Smith wont be happy either .. "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
   
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Ownership and concept undhi choosaaru, amogh idea ..... Abilities addu vachaayi kaani, leka pothe Gaali, , varsham kooda own chesukune vallam.... Just dint how ya... May be in the future.. We will be able to the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada |
   
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Anand_n:but do not see the need to evangelise or impose them on others
not guilty of both! "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
   
Guriginja
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Anand_n: Anything that goes against my personal values - so I have a long list and I live by them - but do not see the need to evangelise or impose them on others
maro hillary, mar elizabeth warren laga run for congress or senate. JOHAR YSR.....YSR AMAR RAHE |
   
Anand_n
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Telugu_times: Pessimistic people live longer anta
Telugu_times:qdoba for ever
 The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim |
   
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Simba:
qdoba for ever |
   
Simba
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Telugu_times:Pessimistic people live longer anta
Papi (mana DB katthi kaadi) chirayuvu |
   
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Tilak:
US lo valla kitchen food waste sangati nuvvu Cheppedi mostly desis gurinchi that too probably get togethers? Tellollu ni chudali, entha disciplined ga spend chestaro. Vallintiki dinner ki vekthe manala 10+ items pettaru. Mana tho compare cheste Majority of tellollu don't cook everyday |
   
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Another study Pessimistic people live longer anta http://www.newsmaxhealth.com/Health-News/Pessimistic-People- Live-Longer/2013/02/28/id/492485
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Zuri:more fuel
Now that's better - give people a motive to cut down While I do not discount the correlation, people in Europe also have more comprehensive healthcare and higher taxes I think BTW,off topic on studies , here's the one I was laughing my head off - a study released last week that said people who like curly fries on facebook have higher IQs  The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim |
   
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Anand_n/Tilak:
more fuel 22 Things Happy People Do Differently http://www.lifed.com/22-things-happy-people-do-differently#f hrtqdF6IAr6s8oD.01 19. Live minimally. Happy people rarely keep clutter around the house because they know that extra belongings weigh them down and make them feel overwhelmed and stressed out. Some studies have concluded that Europeans are a lot happier than Americans are, which is interesting because they live in smaller homes, drive simpler cars, and own fewer items. |
   
Anand_n
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Tilak:any reasons u want to give .. when it is a european country, for example ..
Compare US and european costs and portion sizes
Tilak:why dont u tell me .. if u consider anything immoral ..
Anything that goes against my personal values - so I have a long list and I live by them - but do not see the need to evangelise or impose them on others
Tilak: and good for you to judge that it is mere rhetoric ..
Vocab lesson for you rhetoric :The art of effective or persuasive speaking or writing. What's your problem with that ? Are you not trying to campaign here for non-materialistic lives ?  The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim |
   
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Anand_n:LOL - but you will not admit it is the cost impact and access that changes the behavior overriding the culture
there are many rich western countries like US .. but the wastage isnt that high .. any reasons u want to give .. when it is a european country, for example .. Anand_n:I said I object to morally self righteous rhetoric - there's a huge difference between being moral and being self-righteous
why dont u tell me .. if u consider anything immoral .. and good for you to judge that it is mere rhetoric .. "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
   
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Tilak:results meeku convenient ga undettu chudamanaledu .. thats just trivialization of the issue ..
LOL - but you will not admit it is the cost impact and access that changes the behavior overriding the culture And that is the same reason that food goes waste in the US too - its cheap, there is no major cost impact to the individual US lo food wastage ledu ani nenu analedu - desam lo culture molanchi avvadu anedi dispute chesanu  The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim |
   
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Anand_n:What variable changed in the scenarios - culture and conditioning is constant..why did all the indoctrination of 'do not waste' take a back seat in the buffet and why did it come back in the a la carte scenario ?
inka nayam .. mondays vs saturdays compare chesi .. results meeku convenient ga undettu chudamanaledu .. thats just trivialization of the issue .. if u dont want to admit that large amount of food goes waste from kitchens/plates in US even after evidences/stats .. I dont have an issue with that .. I will just excuse myself from such an argument .. "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
   
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Tilak:ok .. excess consumption and exploitation of the planet is not morally wrong .. cool then ..
there you go attributing things I did not say to me I said I object to morally self righteous rhetoric - there's a huge difference between being moral and being self-righteous Desam lone unnaru kada - Oka chinna culture experiment cheyyandi.. Oka group of middle class people ne observe cheyyandi at mealtime ... Scenario 1 : At home Scenario 2 : At an all you can eat buffet restaurant Same people , same culture - 99.9 % of the time, at the buffet you will see the same people who clean every grain off their plate at home, will waste a ton of food at the buffet .. Now scenario 3 : Ask them to order food a la carte at the same restaurant They will order a fraction of the food they served themselves at the buffet.. Think why ? What variable changed in the scenarios - culture and conditioning is constant..why did all the indoctrination of 'do not waste' take a back seat in the buffet and why did it come back in the a la carte scenario ? It is an interesting exercise in understanding behavior  The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim |
   
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Tilak:
It is bane.... too baad to the world.... too god tobe part of it... |
   
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Anand_n:Culture evolves based on what is available in a location - daniki morality antagattam tappu antunnanu
Let me ask .. what in this world do you consider immoral? "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
   
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you cannot live in this world without being materialistic... (i.e, three dots ) Naakonchem thikkundi.... daaaniko lekkundi |
   
Tilak
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Anand_n:I only object to the morally righteous rhetoric
ok .. excess consumption and exploitation of the planet is not morally wrong .. cool then .. "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
   
Jacksparrow
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Zulu:maa voorloo plastic bags ban chesaru..inti nundi kooragayala sanchi theesukellali groceries ki..good old fashion way..
EU is way ahead of any other nation or unions when it comes to implementing laws that protect nature... ireland lanti sinna desham 2002 lone 15cents plastic bag levy start sesi 70% plastic usage tagginchesindi... |
   
Kalikaalam
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Anand_n:True Because if it was in our culture/blood/etc..we should have continued to sleep under trees and eat from banana leaves and only drink coconut water and be happy - do not see that happening India or Indians - self included
5 strs to the whole post..This part deserves more stars.. |
   
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~chirutha~:So India lo idi varaku dabbunna valle lera? Okavela meeru cheppinatlu dabbunte manavallu thakkuva thinevaru kaadu antunnaru ga.. Evaru vallu? Eppati tharam vallu?
Eppati tharam ayina we can only compare peoples who have equal access to the same set of amenities antunna
~chirutha~:Manavallu kobbari bondale taagevallu, ariti aakula meede thinevallu, Chettu needa lo padukune vallu. Vallu entha dabbunna vallayina sare.
Ikkada winter weather lo chettu kinda padukovatam sadhyama ? Kobbari bondalu/ ariti-akulu anni chotla dorukutaya ...north india lone ariti-aku lo tinaru, kobbari bondalu tagaru - lassi tagutaru- US lo apple cider Culture evolves based on what is available in a location - daniki morality antagattam tappu antunnanu Necessity is the mother of invention ...
~chirutha~:meeru kuda ipati gen ni drusti lo pettukuni India ni and its good old way-of-living ni generalise chestunnaru.
True Because if it was in our culture/blood/etc..we should have continued to sleep under trees and eat from banana leaves and only drink coconut water and be happy - do not see that happening India or Indians - self included Manual labor undi machinery avasaram raledu - ippudu domestic help taggindi or become expensive - people want dishwashers , washing machines - increasing their carbon footprint too US was always spread out - sparsely populated - people invented machinery to ease their workload ... Anyway - I have never advocated wastage or excess(excess is relative) consumption - I only object to the morally righteous rhetoric  The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim |
   
Kalikaalam
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~chirutha~: Athanu ela generalize chesi western impact ni teesukuvachadoo.. meeru kuda ipati gen ni drusti lo pettukuni India ni and its good old way-of-living ni generalise chestunnaru.
Kalikaalam:ikkada problem yemiti ante, Nenu ayina, nuvvu ayina India lo, 'aava ginja lo 60 va vanthu' chusaamu. Daanini chusi maaku india antha ardham ayyindi anukontaamu. Khachitham gaa 100 Kms radius loni vilalges lo thirigthene, oka village life style ki inkoka village life style ki sambhandam vundadu. Paiga India ni ardhma chesukovadma ante, india loni villages ni ardham chesukovadam. Ippatiki atleast 70% villages lo vunnaaru anukntunnaanu(exact statisitcs theliyadu). Kabatti, generalize cheyyalemu. Kanai, naaku thelisinatha varaku, 'dabbu vundi, kharchu pettakunda vunna vallu chaalaa thakkuva mandi'. Ate, dabbu ante pinaasithanma gaa vundevalalu veru. vallu yelaagu pettaru.
chaalaa clear gaa cheppaa..naku thelisinanthavaraku ani.Nenu velle 3 weeks trip(once in 2 or 3 years)lo nenu mahaa ayithe chusedi maa vuru ni. Aa maatram danike India motham naku thelusu ane bhrama naku ledu..Nenu cheppindi tappu kuda ayivundochu. Maa vuru kakunnda, miglina vullu anni inkaa venukati ki laagaane vunnayemo kudaa theliyadu. |
   
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I think recycling is a buss too.. I helps the average over consuming citizen...to be at peace by throwing a coke can in a recycle bin and feel 'I am doing my part..global warming is a bixtch.' kiki |
   
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~chirutha~:Athanu ela generalize chesi western impact ni teesukuvachadoo..
nenu generalize chesana? em chesaanu? akkada unna stats gurinche matladaanu tappa .. adi kuda tappe ante em chesedi .. khandinchatam tappa .. btw .. good post .. 5 stars .. to u and zulu .. "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
   
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Kalikaalam:Maa ivlalge lo 100 families vuntaayi. Recent gaa India vellinappudu chusthe, chaalaa mandiki(I think more than 60% of the houses) ki AC lu vunnaayi. Chinna birhtdya parties ayina kudaa dummu dulipesthunnaru kharchu. Vullo vunna guntala nida, plastic used cups, and plates..chuss..idi maa vurenaa anipinchindi..
Anand_n:Indian houses do not have a huge carbon footprint because people cannot afford it - afford cheyalgaligiteiAC pettukuntaru carbon footprint avutundi ani manesinavallu evaru telidu
So India lo idi varaku dabbunna valle lera? Okavela meeru cheppinatlu dabbunte manavallu thakkuva thinevaru kaadu antunnaru ga.. Evaru vallu? Eppati tharam vallu? @Kalikaalam, Meeru cheppindi nijame, ipudu evaru nature gurinchi pattinchukovadam ledu. Cos we are influenced alot in the past couple of decades. @Anand_n, Manavallu kobbari bondale taagevallu, ariti aakula meede thinevallu, Chettu needa lo padukune vallu. Vallu entha dabbunna vallayina sare. Don't you agree? Tilak argument lo okavela tappunte mee argument lo kuda tappundi. Athanu ela generalize chesi western impact ni teesukuvachadoo.. meeru kuda ipati gen ni drusti lo pettukuni India ni and its good old way-of-living ni generalise chestunnaru. Be Kool  |
   
Zulu
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maa voorloo plastic bags ban chesaru..inti nundi kooragayala sanchi theesukellali groceries ki..good old fashion way.. |
   
Tilak
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Simba:Can you pull up the numbers behind food grain wastage in FCI go-downs?
you can do the honors .. right? "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
   
Jacksparrow
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Post Number: 5687 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 78.137.141.112
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 - 10:26 am: |
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recycling is busssssssss... reuse or no use are the only options ... |
   
Jacksparrow
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Post Number: 5686 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 78.137.141.112
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 - 10:25 am: |
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gee materialism etc pakkanetti Bag it documentary soodandi ... u will realise how oil and plastic industry is screwing the earth and public... |
   
Kalikaalam
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Post Number: 7220 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 171.159.64.10
Rating:  Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 - 10:24 am: |
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Anand_n:Monna ma gudilo sarvadevata abhishekam chesi oka 100-120 litres milk down the drain - what does that fall under - materialism/consumerism or spirituality and harmony with nature?
Idi malli inkoka topic. Alaa paalu shivudi nethi poyyadam valana, yededo jarigi..prakruthi parvasinchi varshalu kuripishtundi antaaru.. manakemo okka mukka theliaydu aa topic mida.."phalaanaa puranam lo chepapru", 'phalaanaa vedam lo cheppaaru" antaaru. manam bebbe..antam thappa cheyyakaligindi ledu.. |
   
Simba
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Post Number: 9667 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 206.210.17.33
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 - 10:21 am: |
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Tilak:
Can you pull up the numbers behind food grain wastage in FCI go-downs? |
   
Kalikaalam
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Post Number: 7219 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 171.159.64.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 - 10:20 am: |
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Zulu:but we continue that habit even when we have surplus of water..
yekkada? Gantala tharapadi showers chesthu..inka water save chesedi?? yi argument ki dari, anthu vundadu. yevari openion valladi, eyvari experience valladi.. |
   
Anand_n
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Post Number: 13178 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.24.150
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 - 10:11 am: |
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Tilak:
Comparison ki two sides data with all else being equal undali  The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim |
   
Tilak
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Post Number: 13150 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 125.22.249.81
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 - 10:07 am: |
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http://www.nbcnews.com/business/americans-throw-away-40-perc ent-their-food-study-959078 For eg ... not bashing anyone .. "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
   
Anand_n
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Post Number: 13177 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.24.150
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 - 10:06 am: |
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Zulu:manalo chaala mandiki nellu waste cheyyali ante gunde kalukku mantundi...
And ade manavallu ikkada restaurants lo mohamata padataru emo kani - tellollu nirmohamantam ga plate lo migilindi to go bags lo kattinchukoni veltaru - wastage culture aa ? The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim |
   
Tilak
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Post Number: 13149 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 125.22.249.81
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 - 10:03 am: |
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Zulu:E Tilakam kurrodi image atta edisindi..edi matladina west bashing..hindutva anukuntunnaru janalu
 "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
   
Anand_n
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Post Number: 13176 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.24.150
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 - 10:02 am: |
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Zulu:kancham emi migalchakunda thintaru..
Ikkada culture lo ledu anukovatam ignorance avutundi - waste not want not - eppudu vinaleda  The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim |
   
Telugu_times
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Post Number: 37294 Registered: 02-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 - 10:01 am: |
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Zulu:E Tilakam kurrodi image atta edisindi..edi matladina west bashing..hindutva anukuntunnaru janalu
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Zulu
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Post Number: 16620 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 199.168.243.252
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 - 10:00 am: |
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manalo chaala mandiki nellu waste cheyyali ante gunde kalukku mantundi...may be that stemmed from scarcity of water..but we continue that habit even when we have surplus of water.. |
   
Humpty_dumpty
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Post Number: 20811 Registered: 02-2009
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 - 09:57 am: |
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Anand_n:100-120 litres milk down the drain
hehe IMO wastage by consumption is secondary to human naturez( no bio here) evari paridhi lo wallu sethunay unnaru 25 yrs back India lo lower middle class % is huge...it is now still but a considerable % moved to upper/higher middle class consumption increases...wastage increases |
   
Zulu
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Post Number: 16619 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 199.168.243.252
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 - 09:56 am: |
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E Tilakam kurrodi image atta edisindi..edi matladina west bashing..hindutva anukuntunnaru janalu |
   
Zulu
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Post Number: 16618 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 199.168.243.252
Rating:  Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 - 09:54 am: |
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India lo atleast konthamanadi culture lo food pareyyatam anedi thappu..kancham emi migalchakunda thintaru..now please dont tell me ..vallantha food afford cheyyaleru anduke ala thintaru ani.. some things are passed on to us..from generations..even if their exact intent is not to be environment friendly...lack of affordability ani trivialize cheyyatam konchum shallow thinking anipisthundi.. |
   
Anand_n
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Post Number: 13175 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.24.150
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 - 09:48 am: |
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Kalikaalam:Devudi gullo prasadam kuda plastic bags lo petti isthunnaaru.
Monna ma gudilo sarvadevata abhishekam chesi oka 100-120 litres milk down the drain - what does that fall under - materialism/consumerism or spirituality and harmony with nature?  The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim |
   
Tilak
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Post Number: 13147 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 125.22.249.81
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 - 09:38 am: |
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Simba:sare... maa office lo unna tellollanu DB lo account create chesukomani chepta. They can represent rest of US population.
sare .. problem ni ela address chesina parledu .. issue solve cheste chaalu .. "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
   
Simba
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Post Number: 9665 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 206.210.27.33
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 - 09:23 am: |
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Tilak:nenu NRIs ni particular ga emi analede? NRIs matrame sanjayishi ichukovalsina avasaram ledu ..
sare... maa office lo unna tellollanu DB lo account create chesukomani chepta. They can represent rest of US population. |
   
Tilak
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Post Number: 13145 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 125.22.249.81
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 - 09:18 am: |
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Simba:mari NRIs andaru palace la lo untunnara? Bulk of them are still living in apartments.
nenu NRIs ni particular ga emi analede? NRIs matrame sanjayishi ichukovalsina avasaram ledu .. "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
   
Simba
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Post Number: 9664 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 206.210.27.33
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 - 09:16 am: |
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Tilak:Are they the avg Janardhan's of India? or are they the richest of the society ..
mari NRIs andaru palace la lo untunnara? Bulk of them are still living in apartments. |
   
Tilak
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Post Number: 13144 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 125.22.249.81
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 - 09:08 am: |
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Telugu_times:Avg Janardhan's of India can't afford
so with riches come irresponsibility towards earth and disregard for nature .. adena baba bottom line? "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
   
Tilak
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Post Number: 13142 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 125.22.249.81
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 - 09:00 am: |
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Kalikaalam:Chinna birhtdya parties ayina kudaa dummu dulipesthunnaru kharchu. Vullo vunna guntala nida, plastic used cups, and plates..chuss..idi maa vurenaa anipinchindi.. Devudi gullo prasadam kuda plastic bags lo petti isthunnaaru.
Oka 15 ella kritam alage undedaa? manalo kuda ee madhya vedhavalanu tayaru chesamu ane kada cheptunna .. Kalikaalam:ikkada problem yemiti ante, Nenu ayina, nuvvu ayina India lo, 'aava ginja lo 60 va vanthu' chusaamu. Daanini chusi maaku india antha ardham ayyindi anukontaamu. Khachitham gaa 100 Kms radius loni vilalges lo thirigthene, oka village life style ki inkoka village life style ki sambhandam vundadu. Paiga India ni ardhma chesukovadma ante, india loni villages ni ardham chesukovadam. Ippatiki atleast 70% villages lo vunnaaru anukntunnaanu(exact statisitcs theliyadu). Kabatti, generalize cheyyalemu. Kanai, naaku thelisinatha varaku, 'dabbu vundi, kharchu pettakunda vunna vallu chaalaa thakkuva mandi'. Ate, dabbu ante pinaasithanma gaa vundevalalu veru. vallu yelaagu pettaru.
sare .. naaku emi telidu .. nenu mana Desam chudaledu .. chadavaledu .. naaku India ardam kaaledu .. so nenu matladakudadu .. ok "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
   
Tilak
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Post Number: 13141 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 125.22.249.81
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 - 08:56 am: |
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Kalikaalam:Recent gaa India vellinappudu chusthe, chaalaa mandiki(I think more than 60% of the houses) ki AC lu vunnaayi.
Tilak:"pedha pedha kompal" lo enduku undaali? grand american dream aa? (ofcourse ippudu grand global dream aipoyindi anuko .. unfortunately)
culture maaripoyina taravata .. andaram suntalame ayyamu .. ane cheppa nenu kuda .. oka 10-15 ella kritam varaku .. Bharata Desam .. Bharateeyulu veru ga undevaaru .. (kaani ippatiki kondaru migilaaru - namoonalu ga) .. "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
   
Kalikaalam
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Post Number: 7217 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 171.159.64.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 - 08:55 am: |
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Tilak:I know .. so I speak ..
ikkada problem yemiti ante, Nenu ayina, nuvvu ayina India lo, 'aava ginja lo 60 va vanthu' chusaamu. Daanini chusi maaku india antha ardham ayyindi anukontaamu. Khachitham gaa 100 Kms radius loni vilalges lo thirigthene, oka village life style ki inkoka village life style ki sambhandam vundadu. Paiga India ni ardhma chesukovadma ante, india loni villages ni ardham chesukovadam. Ippatiki atleast 70% villages lo vunnaaru anukntunnaanu(exact statisitcs theliyadu). Kabatti, generalize cheyyalemu. Kanai, naaku thelisinatha varaku, 'dabbu vundi, kharchu pettakunda vunna vallu chaalaa thakkuva mandi'. Ate, dabbu ante pinaasithanma gaa vundevalalu veru. vallu yelaagu pettaru. |
   
Kalikaalam
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Post Number: 7216 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 171.159.64.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 - 08:49 am: |
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Anand_n:Indian houses do not have a huge carbon footprint because people cannot afford it - afford cheyalgaligiteiAC pettukuntaru carbon footprint avutundi ani manesinavallu evaru telidu
ide point ninna post chedhamanu konnanu.Time leka veyyaledu. Mana daggara dabbu leka, kharhcu petta leka musukoni kurchonnaamaa? Asalu mana culture lone 'environment friendly' life style vundaa?? First de correct anipishtondi. Maa ivlalge lo 100 families vuntaayi. Recent gaa India vellinappudu chusthe, chaalaa mandiki(I think more than 60% of the houses) ki AC lu vunnaayi. Chinna birhtdya parties ayina kudaa dummu dulipesthunnaru kharchu. Vullo vunna guntala nida, plastic used cups, and plates..chuss..idi maa vurenaa anipinchindi.. Devudi gullo prasadam kuda plastic bags lo petti isthunnaaru. |
   
Telugu_times
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Post Number: 37290 Registered: 02-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 - 08:49 am: |
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Tilak:Are they the avg Janardhan's of India?
Avg Janardhan's of India can't afford last year we have similar disco on food wastage in America vs Indian's podhupu etc. |
   
Tilak
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Post Number: 13139 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 125.22.249.81
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 - 08:44 am: |
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Telugu_times:how are subbarami reddies, ramojees, ambanees living in India?
Are they the avg Janardhan's of India? or are they the richest of the society .. more over .. I dont even see them as the representatives of India statistically .. "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
   
Tilak
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Post Number: 13138 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 125.22.249.81
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 - 08:42 am: |
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Anand_n:People here consume energy because they have easy access to it ...people in poor countries do not have access or cannot afford so they do not have an impact on the carbon footprint - why try to give a moralistic 'we are taught to live in harmony' they are materialistic pitch ?
If thats how you want to trivialize the whole "energy consumption culture" of those countries and people .. then lets stop our arguments, for there is no point in denying truth its value .. Anand_n:afford cheyalgaligiteiAC pettukuntaru carbon footprint avutundi ani manesinavallu evaru telidu
I know .. so I speak .. but anyways .. lets stop it .. "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
   
Telugu_times
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Post Number: 37288 Registered: 02-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 - 08:41 am: |
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Zulu:correst answer...ninnu test chedham ani adiga..pattesav..promotion kottesav
Tilak:
how are subbarami reddies, ramojees, ambanees living in India? . |
   
Anand_n
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Post Number: 13174 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 166.137.156.174
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 - 07:24 am: |
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Tilak:
Speak for the unsaid in your mind only - you are unlikely to guess what is in mine When you remove the connection between culture and supply demand you will see the fallacy in your argument... I said the other day too do not confuse lack of affordability with abstinence People here consume energy because they have easy access to it ...people in poor countries do not have access or cannot afford so they do not have an impact on the carbon footprint - why try to give a moralistic 'we are taught to live in harmony' they are materialistic pitch ? Indian houses do not have a huge carbon footprint because people cannot afford it - afford cheyalgaligiteiAC pettukuntaru carbon footprint avutundi ani manesinavallu evaru telidu  The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim |
   
Tilak
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Post Number: 13131 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 125.22.249.81
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 - 04:14 am: |
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Anand_n: Show me where I said that ? Why are you attributing statements I did not make ? You attributed the size of house to the american dream and I corrected that
size of house is just one thing - there are many things that are unsaid .. the 35% resources of the world being consumed by 3% of the world .. 65% resources consumed by 20% of the world etc .. plz look at the carbon foot print per person in those countries and then rebut .. Anand_n: Meeru old sprawling Indian houses chudaledu emo - nenu chala chusanu and from childhood was told pedda illu kattali , it was always a mark of wealth and status - I was never told you need to live in the smallest home possible to be harmonius with nature - maybe a flaw in my upbringing
where did I even say smallest home = harmony with nature? India lo sprawling houses unte undachu gaaka .. but they dont consume huge amounts of energy (atleast until 10 years ago) unlike in the west .. why not admit that? Carbon foot print ki .. materialism ki ye relation undo cheppandi .. we can discuss .. "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
   
Anand_n
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Post Number: 13169 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.24.150
Rating:  Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 04:58 pm: |
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Tilak: Indians are "excessively consumerist" ane sweeping statement
Show me where I said that ? Why are you attributing statements I did not make ? You attributed the size of house to the american dream and I corrected that Meeru old sprawling Indian houses chudaledu emo - nenu chala chusanu and from childhood was told pedda illu kattali , it was always a mark of wealth and status - I was never told you need to live in the smallest home possible to be harmonius with nature - maybe a flaw in my upbringing  The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim |
   
Tilak
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Post Number: 13126 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.96.27.176
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 04:58 pm: |
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Anyways .. later then .. I made my point .. "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
   
Tilak
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Post Number: 13125 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.96.27.176
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 04:56 pm: |
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Chillarodu:I believe no matter how much we try to damage the nature.. it will try to take care of itself... in its own way..
why do you believe so? may i ask .. "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
   
Chillarodu
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Post Number: 3337 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 173.162.149.129
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 04:53 pm: |
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Tilak:Bottomline is .. this is a beautiful planet and our only home .. worship her beauty .. celebrate its beauty .. nurture nature .. and more importantly .. last but not the least .. Respect nature ..
I believe no matter how much we try to damage the nature.. it will try to take care of itself... in its own way.. |
   
Tilak
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Post Number: 13124 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.96.27.176
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 04:45 pm: |
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Bottomline is .. this is a beautiful planet and our only home .. worship her beauty .. celebrate its beauty .. nurture nature .. and more importantly .. last but not the least .. Respect nature .. "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
   
Tilak
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Post Number: 13123 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.96.27.176
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 04:39 pm: |
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Kalikaalam:Gandhi ji korukonnadi, aayana aacharinchi chupindi ide. Malli aayananu buthulu dobbuthaave?? Gandhiji' style of economics is MUST for the environment.
Gandhi economics ni eppudaina sare boothulu tittana? asalu for that matter .. gandhi ni "boothulu" eppudu tittanu? I critic his political naivette/opportunism .. I admire his understanding of India though .. Anand_n: Kaadu Grand Indian Dream Mana Rashtrapati bhavan compare cheste White house enta untundi ? Mana mysore palace to compare cheste ikkada mansions enta untayi ... Size of dwelling has been an indicator of status in desam for ages - Indrabhavanam lanti illu undali anedi mana concept e - american dream ninna kaka monna vachindi - annitini west meda blame cheyyatam enduku
This is just too much of generalization .. Britishers kattukunna Rashtrapati Bhavan (see its origins) .. Royals vaade Mysore palace valla .. Indians are "excessively consumerist" ane sweeping statement correcte na? Btw .. Indra Bhavanam lanti illu .. aakasam antha pandiri veyyali ani undachu India lo .. but thats only half the truth .. the remaining half is .. we have been told to live harmoniously with nature (and we live by that willingly and happily) .. and most of births/deaths/festivals/celebrations are only proof of that .. so plz dont blame Indians to be as guilty of materialism as are Americans .. "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
   
Zulu
Hero Username: Zulu
Post Number: 16607 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 199.168.243.252
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 04:31 pm: |
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Kalikaalam: Yentha thagithe too much, yentha thinte too much ante yemi chebuthamu? yevadidhi vaadike theliyaali.
correst answer...ninnu test chedham ani adiga..pattesav..promotion kottesav.. |
   
Kalikaalam
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Post Number: 7215 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 171.159.192.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 04:29 pm: |
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Zulu:What is too much ani adigevallaki mee answer?
Yentha thagithe too much, yentha thinte too much ante yemi chebuthamu? yevadidhi vaadike theliyaali. |
   
Anand_n
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Post Number: 13168 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.24.150
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 04:29 pm: |
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Tilak:"pedha pedha kompal" lo enduku undaali? grand american dream aa?
Kaadu Grand Indian Dream Mana Rashtrapati bhavan compare cheste White house enta untundi ? Mana mysore palace to compare cheste ikkada mansions enta untayi ... Size of dwelling has been an indicator of status in desam for ages - Indrabhavanam lanti illu undali anedi mana concept e - american dream ninna kaka monna vachindi - annitini west meda blame cheyyatam enduku  The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim |
   
Zulu
Hero Username: Zulu
Post Number: 16605 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 199.168.243.252
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 04:24 pm: |
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Kalikaalam:Aslau life style lone chnage avvaali. too much of consumerism ni thagginchukovaali.
What is too much ani adigevallaki mee answer? |
   
Kalikaalam
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Post Number: 7214 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 171.161.160.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 04:16 pm: |
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Tilak:adi naa bottom line ..
Gandhi ji korukonnadi, aayana aacharinchi chupindi ide. Malli aayananu buthulu dobbuthaave?? Gandhiji' style of economics is MUST for the environment. |
   
Tilak
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Post Number: 13122 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.96.27.176
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 04:10 pm: |
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Kalikaalam:Aslau life style lone chnage avvaali. too much of consumerism ni thagginchukovaali.
adi naa bottom line .. "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
   
Kalikaalam
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Post Number: 7213 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 171.159.194.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 04:07 pm: |
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Simba:Maaku every 2 weeks ki recycling untundi.
Maa area lo every week regular trash tho paatu pick chesukontaaru. kani yi recycling kudaa environment ki work avvadam ledu antunnaaru. Mana daggara pick chesukovadam, sort cheyyadam, malli vere valala ku ivvadam...dini valana ayye power, water expenses, yi process lo release ayye polution..idi antha vatti bussu antunnaaru.Monna maa ocmmunity college lo jarigina free workshop lo cheppaaru.. Aslau life style lone chnage avvaali. too much of consumerism ni thagginchukovaali. |
   
Kalikaalam
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Post Number: 7212 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 171.159.194.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 04:03 pm: |
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Humpty_dumpty:unfortunately, recycle day miss ayithay one week trash stock cheyyali vasthundhee
Any harware store lo inkoka bin konukko. 'Ace hardware' vaadu chaalaa thakkuva ki ammutaadu recyle bins. Inka local gaa mi area lo yevaranna vundochu ilaa thkkuva ki ammevaallu.. |
   
Humpty_dumpty
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Post Number: 20808 Registered: 02-2009
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 03:51 pm: |
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Tilak:mari aa pacific/atlantic/Indian oceans lo plastic waste antha ekkadidi?
desham lo govt kurrol vesaydhee in addition to waste from pvt factories ippudu ee scrap konna waadu 100% use seyyadu kadhaa...so aa waste plus waadi regular waste anni akkadikay kalusthaaye also ee madhya dumping yards ettaru...but entha % of trash collected is going there? poni akkada tagala bettina open air...proper combustion untaadhi antay I doubt west lo collected trash disposal dumping at sea antay hippie kurrol ooogipothaar...dont think it happens |
   
Tilak
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Post Number: 13121 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.96.27.176
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 03:47 pm: |
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Humpty_dumpty:kaadhu he sells it for scrap material
mari aa pacific/atlantic/Indian oceans lo plastic waste antha ekkadidi? "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
   
Humpty_dumpty
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Post Number: 20807 Registered: 02-2009
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 03:39 pm: |
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Tilak:vaadu ala teesukelli musi lo kalipestadu anukunta
kaadhu he sells it for scrap material |
   
Tilak
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Post Number: 13119 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.96.27.176
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 03:37 pm: |
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Humpty_dumpty:plastic karagabetti spoons, forks tayaaru chesi ammuthaa untaan anukunnava
[venky siggu icon] Simba:nela ku okasari, maa veedhi lo bandi meeda okadi vastadu. Kaali seesalu, papers lu teeskoni putnalu, bellam istadu
vaadu ala teesukelli musi lo kalipestadu anukunta .. ika atu nunchi bay of bengal .. Indian ocean ..  "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
   
Simba
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Post Number: 9654 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 206.210.17.33
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 03:32 pm: |
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Tilak:how do u do it at home ani mokaalu gokings
nela ku okasari, maa veedhi lo bandi meeda okadi vastadu. Kaali seesalu, papers lu teeskoni putnalu, bellam istadu  |
   
Nanigadu
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Post Number: 10278 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 129.42.208.184
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 03:31 pm: |
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Simba:but trash anni rojulu unchukunte kampu kottadu?
trash antey mostly plastic bags, baby wipes, ballons, bandages, binders, ceramic dishes, chip bags, cookie bags, corning wares, dryer kint, florist foam etc Organic waste more smelly vuntadi, so adi every week teesukelthadu, Garbage mostly plastic black bags lo vesi, bins lo pedatham what goes where : http://www.richmondhill.ca/documents/going_green_what_goes_w here.pdf My show on TORI Raagala Pallaki - every Friday - EST 8 to 9 PM USA - 703-879-6611 UK - 4412 2377 0661 India - 040 66624513 Skype - tori.live1 Live Link: http://www.teluguoneradio.com/player/tori-live.html |
   
Humpty_dumpty
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Post Number: 20804 Registered: 02-2009
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 03:25 pm: |
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Tilak: how do u do it at home ani mokaalu gokings
plastic karagabetti spoons, forks tayaaru chesi ammuthaa untaan anukunnava |
   
Simba
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Post Number: 9653 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 206.210.27.33
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 03:20 pm: |
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Nanigadu:maku every week vuntadi idi, TRASH mathram every 2 weeks
adenti meetku ulta undhi. Maaku trash twice a week and recycle once in 2 weeks. Bottles/cardboard lantivi bin lo unte no problem, but trash anni rojulu unchukunte kampu kottadu? |
   
Nanigadu
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Post Number: 10277 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 129.42.208.184
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 03:17 pm: |
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Simba:Maaku every 2 weeks ki recycling untundi. We place all the plastic bottles, flatten the card boards, packaging materials separately.
maku every week vuntadi idi, TRASH mathram every 2 weeks first lo edi trash oh edi recycle theliyaka chacchey vadini, deeniki thodu maku organic waste seperate bin  My show on TORI Raagala Pallaki - every Friday - EST 8 to 9 PM USA - 703-879-6611 UK - 4412 2377 0661 India - 040 66624513 Skype - tori.live1 Live Link: http://www.teluguoneradio.com/player/tori-live.html |
   
Tilak
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Post Number: 13117 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.96.27.176
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 03:16 pm: |
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Humpty_dumpty:thursdays ...all mix plus recycle stuff...recycle kee separate butta isthaad ...andulo nimpi curbside pettali
oh ok .. ippudu ardam ayyindi .. I do ante .. how do u do it at home ani mokaalu gokings  Simba:Maaku every 2 weeks ki recycling untundi. We place all the plastic bottles, flatten the card boards, packaging materials separately. If we attempt to trash anything, we get a moral lecture from our daughter
99% mandiki ee responsibility undadu annai .. alanti vallaki rights undakapothe better .. the world has to come out of mad "consumerist" consumption cycle .. dangerous for earth and even humans .. "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
   
Humpty_dumpty
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Post Number: 20799 Registered: 02-2009
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 03:12 pm: |
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Chillarodu:enti idhi one week stock aa?
balu friendses {bemmi_feel} |
   
Humpty_dumpty
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Post Number: 20798 Registered: 02-2009
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 03:11 pm: |
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Tilak:how do "you" recycle? I didnt get it ..
trash pickup truck comes twice a week mondays ...all mix thursdays ...all mix plus recycle stuff...recycle kee separate butta isthaad ...andulo nimpi curbside pettali cardboard boxes, plastic, bottles etc...iyaani trash lo veyyakundaa alaa side butta nimputhaanu simba unkl seppinattu batteries and electronix saringaa set seyyali...righ now elec. disposal antha scene ledhu....battery disposal is all mix...sinappudu MCH waadu veedhi trash kee fire antisthay anduo batteries vesay waadnee for spl effect |
   
Simba
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Post Number: 9650 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 206.210.17.33
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 03:11 pm: |
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Maaku every 2 weeks ki recycling untundi. We place all the plastic bottles, flatten the card boards, packaging materials separately. If we attempt to trash anything, we get a moral lecture from our daughter  |
   
Tilak
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Post Number: 13116 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.96.27.176
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 03:08 pm: |
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Zulu:ante mamoolu ga ante mari mamoolu ga pedha pedha kompal lo unte..or pedha pedha carlu nadipithey ekkuva electricity..water..gas consumption untundi..kadha
"pedha pedha kompal" lo enduku undaali? grand american dream aa? (ofcourse ippudu grand global dream aipoyindi anuko .. unfortunately) "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
   
Zulu
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Post Number: 16599 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 199.168.243.252
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 03:00 pm: |
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ante mamoolu ga ante mari mamoolu ga pedha pedha kompal lo unte..or pedha pedha carlu nadipithey ekkuva electricity..water..gas consumption untundi..kadha |
   
Tilak
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Post Number: 13115 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.96.27.176
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 02:57 pm: |
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Humpty_dumpty:Since last 6 months I am trying to as recycle pick up is on separate day
how do "you" recycle? I didnt get it .. Chillarodu:poor contribute to more wastage than rich anukuntunna..
even then .. rich are only 2-3% of the society .. rest of them are poor and just above poverty line .. so that makes it even more difficult? Simba:Can't comment about others but I recycle my obsolete gadgets. Local libraries usually accept old electronics, batteries for recycling, at free of cost.
all said and done .. we have already made a big big ecological impact .. we can see that .. Simba:I don't even delete my files directly. I always move them to Recycling Bin before emptying
thats a good one ..  "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
   
Chillarodu
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Post Number: 3333 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 173.162.149.129
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 02:54 pm: |
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Humpty_dumpty:ee roju oka 25-30 beer, wine etc bottles waraku vachaayi
vaammo.. enti idhi one week stock aa? |
   
Simba
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Post Number: 9649 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 206.210.17.33
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 02:53 pm: |
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Tilak:what about 95% people (or may be higher %)? do they go for recycling the waste? seriously?
Can't comment about others but I recycle my obsolete gadgets. Local libraries usually accept old electronics, batteries for recycling, at free of cost. I don't even delete my files directly. I always move them to Recycling Bin before emptying  |
   
Chillarodu
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Post Number: 3332 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 173.162.149.129
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 02:53 pm: |
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Tilak:what about 95% people (or may be higher %)? do they go for recycling the waste? seriously?
recycle vishyam lo.. poor contribute to more wastage than rich anukuntunna.. as normal people cannot afford good things that last longer.. cheap products which are not durable kontaaru.. I believe rich people kante.. aam janta.. ekkuva trash chesthaaru anukuntunna.. |
   
Humpty_dumpty
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Post Number: 20796 Registered: 02-2009
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 02:53 pm: |
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Tilak: do they go for recycling the waste
Since last 6 months I am trying to as recycle pick up is on separate day unfortunately, recycle day miss ayithay one week trash stock cheyyali vasthundhee so appudu all mix tappatledhu ee roju oka 25-30 beer, wine etc bottles waraku vachaayi  |
   
Tilak
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Post Number: 13114 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.96.27.176
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 02:47 pm: |
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Simba:One could be very materialistic with purchases and still be recycling the waste. Other could be living in less but just trashing all the plastic he discards. Being earth-friendly has nothing to do with the life-style.
Yeah .. thats a could be .. not impossible .. agreed .. what about 95% people (or may be higher %)? do they go for recycling the waste? seriously? "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
   
Simba
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Post Number: 9648 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 206.210.27.33
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 02:43 pm: |
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One could be very materialistic with purchases and still be recycling the waste. Other could be living in less but just trashing all the plastic he discards. Being earth-friendly has nothing to do with the life-style. |
   
Tilak
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Post Number: 13113 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.96.27.176
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 02:34 pm: |
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Last week .. Mav post chesina "Living with less" thread lo .. materialism ni follow avvadam lo tappu ledu ani chaala mandi argue chesaru .. for such people this is a must read .. whats the impact of such a 'way of living' and is it even ethical/moral to do such ecological damage is a question everyone should ask themselves .. http://quicktake.wordpress.com/2012/04/29/cars-tvs-that-last -25-years/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_Garbage_Patch PS - I am not asking any one to live in abject penury .. so dont waste my time arguing in such lines .. "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |