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kotha ga converted gallaki kasi ekkuva ani proved once again


time and again :D
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uncles...kottukovodhu seap ga
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Kalikaalam:

when there is severe drought since 1972, water tankers tho drinking water tholinchi holi celebrations jarupukonna asaram bapu meeda kooda oka post esipo...padi untadi...




"when there is severe drought since 1972, water tankers tho drinking water tholinchi holi celebrations jarupukonna asaram bapu meeda kooda oka post esipo...padi untadi... "
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minga methuku ledu kaani, manam meesalaku sampangi nune ki mathram thakkuva ledu....nee darunalu pratheykanga cheppala endi...




yenti?? yedo back drop vunnatlu vundi. ardham kaaledu.
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minga methuku ledu kaani, manam meesalaku sampangi nune ki mathram thakkuva ledu....nee darunalu pratheykanga cheppala endi...


nee gurinchi nuvvu aalochinchuko chaalu .. naaku emi undi .. em ledu .. em kaavali .. em vaddu .. nenu chusukunta ..
"India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda
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Tilak:

5 water tankers tho .. 10000 people holi chesukunte naakem abhyantaram ledu .. nenu antha darunam ga matladatam inka start cheyyaledu ..




minga methuku ledu kaani, manam meesalaku sampangi nune ki mathram thakkuva ledu....nee darunalu pratheykanga cheppala endi...
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deenexmma evadino blame sesenduku emi ledu... mana politians/govts successfully screwed us...


agreed .. but i also think greed dominates globalization .. hence this is what we see ..
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when there is severe drought since 1972, water tankers tho drinking water tholinchi holi celebrations jarupukonna asaram bapu meeda kooda oka post esipo...padi untadi...


5 water tankers tho .. 10000 people holi chesukunte naakem abhyantaram ledu .. nenu antha darunam ga matladatam inka start cheyyaledu ..

Zulu:

ikkada mana vallaki wastage ki u.s.culture ki link pedithey kalathandi kani..there are many US liberals who slam the us culture of wastage on a regular basis..and they compare it with europe and canada..


heard that too .. nenu US lo pani chesinappudu naa ex boss lived in Bangalore for an year .. she used to tell the entire team on how to live with less resources (not sermonizing but as an example) and used to quote India ..
"India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda
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Tilak:

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/kerala/cocacola-liable -to-pay-damages-worth-rs-21626-crore/article264717.ece


from ur link, * The water resources of the area have been affected and water scarcity has been compounded.

* By passing off the sludge as manure, the Company has not only misguided the farmers but has become responsible for the soil degradation, water contamination and consequential loss of agriculture.

* There has been a steady decline in the agriculture production in the area.

* The production of milk, meat and eggs also has suffered.

* Metals like cadmium, lead and chromium have been detected in the sludge and this has affected the health of the people.

* The general health of the people has been affected with skin ailments, breathing problems and other debilities.....

deenexmma evadino blame sesenduku emi ledu... mana politians/govts successfully screwed us...
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Tilak:

I am not trying to bash any one particular country .. but let us call a spade a spade ..



kotha ga converted gallaki kasi ekkuva ani proved once again,(j/k..karicheyyakandi)..

ikkada mana vallaki wastage ki u.s.culture ki link pedithey kalathandi kani..there are many US liberals who slam the us culture of wastage on a regular basis..and they compare it with europe and canada..

again, culture ante church lo nerchukunedi..or amma nanna cheppedi ane udhesam tho vadaledhu..over a period of time..govt policies have influence on our culture.
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Tilak:

punishing poor people .. and allowing rich to exploit resources and enjoy irresponsibly ..




when there is severe drought since 1972, water tankers tho drinking water tholinchi holi celebrations jarupukonna asaram bapu meeda kooda oka post esipo...padi untadi...
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_streetcar_conspi racy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_streetcar_conspi racy#Conviction.2C_.241_fine .. 1$ fine for such a big conspiracy ..
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Not related to topic...

http://thecnnfreedomproject.blogs.cnn.com/2013/03/20/toddler s-freed-from-brick-kiln-bondage/?hpt=hp_c1

This is main page article in CNN today about slavery (child labor) in India
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Zulu:


Recently foundout that frieght trains have right-of-way over passenger trains..hence the sad state of train transportation in US..holy guacamole..

I still believe culture and policy are used interchangably in this thread..but then again if you become comfortable with a policy, it becomes your culture.


I am not trying to bash any one particular country .. but let us call a spade a spade ..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_prim ary_energy_consumption_and_production

enti aa energy consumption? US figures ki .. Canada figures ki emanna sambandam unda? Canada is a bigger country with fewer population and worse climate compared to US .. and look at their figures ..

nenu ekkado chadiva .. in the early 1940s .. how US killed its public transport system .. to encourage private companies like Ford and GM .. and it was all deliberate .. will try to find out that link .. but correct me if I am wrong ..
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Tilak:

.. US lo public transport system develop avvakunda .. interstates/gas guzzlers system develop avvatam lo mee tappu emi ledu .. kaani atleast US govt ki istara aa tappu ki accountability?



Now, we are talking..

Recently foundout that frieght trains have right-of-way over passenger trains..hence the sad state of train transportation in US..holy guacamole..

I still believe culture and policy are used interchangably in this thread..but then again if you become comfortable with a policy, it becomes your culture.
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Kalikaalam:


Soft drinks maa intlo kooda zero, Pkg Juices kooda takkuve but not zero
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Jacksparrow:

tilakai, past lo globalization effects on food okati gurtundaa... food exports ani dappu kottukotam kaadu kaani we r literally giving away the water for nothing and importing drought...


totally agreed ..

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/kerala/cocacola-liable -to-pay-damages-worth-rs-21626-crore/article264717.ece

this is what it has come to .. punishing poor people .. and allowing rich to exploit resources and enjoy irresponsibly ..
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Tilak:

colonization? globalization?


tilakai, past lo globalization effects on food okati gurtundaa... food exports ani dappu kottukotam kaadu kaani we r literally giving away the water for nothing and importing drought...
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Ila kadhu kani..
Lets list environment friendly things each of us or our friends do, someone else might give it a try too, my 2 cents for betterment. :-), emantaru?
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Zulu:

some things are passed on to us..from generations..even if their exact intent is not to be environment friendly...lack of affordability ani trivialize cheyyatam konchum shallow thinking anipisthundi..




I am trying to say this, you already said it!!
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Kalikaalam:

maa intlo any soft drink/bottled juice koni yennellu ayyindo kudaa gurthu ledu. intikochina guests ki kudaa serve cheyyamu.



I started on these lines. There are n number of people who live carefully like you or like someone else in India too. We don't have to generalize one country in view of one generation or one set of people.

Simba:

If we had lived like cavemen, there would be much less carbon footprint on mother nature.



There was no necessity of terms like carbon footprint decades ago. Then cant you see we don't have to be like cavemen to remove carbon footprint ;)

Tilak:

luxury peru tho consumptive economy build chesukuni .. produce chesedaanikante ekkuva spend chestoo .. materially .. earth lo ni resources ni darunam ga exploit cheyyadam lo ardam enti?



Well said. This is 100% true. Even alanti situation ni luxury ani kuda oppukovadam ledu. Sad!
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Anand_n:

Meeru India lo untara ?


Yes. Naku americans tho peddaga parichayame ledu. Warren Buffet gurinchi vinnanu. Aayina ela life lead chestaroo kuda telusu. But ayana sampadinchina teeru, aa theeru lo elanti thappoppulu jarigaayo, aa sampadinchina amount carbon foot-print tagginchadaniki ela upayogincharoo nenu epudu vina ledu :P

Anand_n:

I would have loved to delve into those but have a busy day ahead


I am looking forward to it, Meeru chese arguments clear ga untayi. I respect them.
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Kalikaalam:

culture/govt ane words interchangeable gaa use chesaademo theliyadu.


no .. Simba tried to argue that .. increase in consumption of resources is just "theory of evolution" .. my point is .. evolution ki .. cultural/historical narrative .. mana individual decisions (govts) .. along with geography contribute chestayi .. so .. dont brush off humongous consumption as unavoidable .. there is a point in culture (even if it is dynamic) contributing to your evolution ..
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Anand_n:

I know a lot of American people and families who live within their means and simply




I agree. Kaani TILAk cheppe daanlto kuda konni valid points vunnaayi.Miru yentha mi limits lo vundalanukonna, ikkada situation co-operative gaa vundadu.
Example:means of transportation.work ki car lone vellali. Naaku resourses waste cheyyalani ledu. kaani naaku vere maargam ledu.Ilaantiivi chaalaa vundi vuntaayi.culture/govt ane words interchangeable gaa use chesaademo theliyadu.

Asalu US govt, East coast ni yenduku encourage chesindo naaku ardham kaadu.yedi anna valid reasons vunnayemo thleiyadu kaani, yi area ni winter lo maintain cheyyalante oka coutry ki saripade resources waste avuthunnaayi kadaa(heatign and transportation fo goods etc..)
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~chirutha~:




Meeru India lo untara ? I know a lot of American people and families who live within their means and simply - and if you want an extreme example - warren buffet :-)
You brought up some good points and I would have loved to delve into those but have a busy day ahead :-)

Some other time :-)

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coke, pepsi..yedi anna avanivvandi.Yevadu kanukkonnadu anedi ikkada anavsaram. vaadi avasarm kodhi vaadu kanukkonaadu. Vaadi dabbu kosam legal gaa prapaancham antha ammukovalani chusthaadu. Cultural gaa strong gaa vunnapapudu miru maaneyyochu kdaa?"memu kadali phalam, Naarikela paaniyam thappithe thaagam' ani maanuko vachu kadaa??

yevariki vallu sontham gaa cheyyalsina panulu. Sontha dabba ani anukovadhu. maa intlo any soft drink/bottled juice koni yennellu ayyindo kudaa gurthu ledu. intikochina guests ki kudaa serve cheyyamu.period..
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Kalikaalam:

naa point: nenu work ki vellaali ante car lo vellali, Vere maaragam ledu. idi nakau necessity. Bus/train facility vunna akudaa, 'nakau dabbu vundi kaabatti' car lo velathaanu ante luxury..ani naamenaing.


ya .. US lo public transport system develop avvakunda .. interstates/gas guzzlers system develop avvatam lo mee tappu emi ledu .. kaani atleast US govt ki istara aa tappu ki accountability?

Kalikaalam:


Naa bottomline:yes. Khachitham gaa yevari ki vaallu responsible gaa resources ni kharchu pettukovaali.
Kaani yi alavaatu culture ni batti vasthundi ante oppukonu(Yi culture topic miru thchindi kaadu)


sarigga ardam chesukondi .. anni cultures okate kaadu .. ala aithe .. "cultures" ani vaadamu .. culture ane vaadatamu .. and more over .. konni cultures and attitudes conservative .. konni kaadu .. adi kuda proven fact ee ..
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Simba:

Let me give my answer in simple terms. Everyone on this globe are consuming more materials leaving lot of carbon footprint. The scale is different between India and US. It's matter of time (years) before Indians reach the US scale in consumption. There are no morals involved here.


Let me further simplify it. Everyone on this globe is now in a dog-eat-dog world and have to compete economically to survive - under the globalization pretext. By the time - India reaches US on the scale of consumption, US would have left every one else faaar behind (going by today's trajectory). Yes, there are no morals involved in a dog-eat-dog world now.
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~chirutha~:

When we are talking about given set of resources in Mother Earth we can't say Needs, necessities and Luxury are variable and relevant to one-self. They will and have to become global-specific as others are impacted. Hope you understand my point.




naa point: nenu work ki vellaali ante car lo vellali, Vere maaragam ledu. idi nakau necessity. Bus/train facility vunna akudaa, 'nakau dabbu vundi kaabatti' car lo velathaanu ante luxury..ani naamenaing.

Kaabatti situation ni batti maaruthundi anukontunnaanu.

Naa bottomline:yes. Khachitham gaa yevari ki vaallu responsible gaa resources ni kharchu pettukovaali.
Kaani yi alavaatu culture ni batti vasthundi ante oppukonu(Yi culture topic miru thchindi kaadu)
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simple .. answer is govts ..



Are govts. not Indians?

Let me give my answer in simple terms. Everyone on this globe are consuming more materials leaving lot of carbon footprint. The scale is different between India and US. It's matter of time (years) before Indians reach the US scale in consumption. There are no morals involved here.
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Simba:

Compare the materialism found in India from 1947 to now. You still want to blame British for messing up with our minds? Once independent, Indian have no obligation to ape west. Why this trend? They are free to ban any foreign products but why isn't happening?


for once .. you can try to answer those questions and then let us know .. right?

After independence .. everything should have changed .. nothing did .. why? simple .. answer is govts ..
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Theory of Evolution? Let's go back to stone age. Indian sub-continent lo 5000 years nundi civilization undhi antaru kada. Why did west follow east to learn how to make farm, build houses, make weapons etc. If we had lived like cavemen, there would be much less carbon footprint on mother nature.


first thing - more carbon foot print - not equal to evolution ..

second thing - development vaddu ani evaranna annara? evolve avvadam lo carbon foot print ni light teesukuni ecology ni kampu lepacha?

third thing - avasaraniki resources vaadukovadam lo ardam undi .. luxury peru tho consumptive economy build chesukuni .. produce chesedaanikante ekkuva spend chestoo .. materially .. earth lo ni resources ni darunam ga exploit cheyyadam lo ardam enti?

what explains .. US consuming 35-40% of resources of the world?
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colonization? globalization? mental slavery? whats ur choice?



Compare the materialism found in India from 1947 to now. You still want to blame British for messing up with our minds? Once independent, Indian have no obligation to ape west. Why this trend? They are free to ban any foreign products but why isn't happening?
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Then why did indians adopt such materialistic pleasure (AC, Fridge etc). Idivaraku leni avasaram ippudu enduku vacchindi?


colonization? globalization? mental slavery? whats ur choice?
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Nenu cheppindi ade, we are driven towards western psyche and we started living like them partially. Karanalu vadilesi end lo Indians ni thappu cheyyadhu antunnanu.



Theory of Evolution? Let's go back to stone age. Indian sub-continent lo 5000 years nundi civilization undhi antaru kada. Why did west follow east to learn how to make farm, build houses, make weapons etc. If we had lived like cavemen, there would be much less carbon footprint on mother nature. :-)
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Simba:

Then why did indians adopt such materialistic pleasure (AC, Fridge etc). Idivaraku leni avasaram ippudu enduku vacchindi?



Nenu cheppindi ade, we are driven towards western psyche and we started living like them partially. Karanalu vadilesi end lo Indians ni thappu cheyyadhu antunnanu.

If a mayor

Simba:

New York mayor wants to limit sugar products limited to 16 ounce



Ofcourse there is always good if you dig deep in anything. Adi saaku ga pettukuni Western impact lene ledu ante I can't help. As you say, In the case of Soft drinks, you can see yourself that there are many factors why we have adopted them. Indian administration, Political advantages, Commercial breakthroughs etc.,
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Kalikaalam:

Yi comparison yela kuduruthundi? idhari economic, social, waetaher condiotions okka laaga lenappudu idi 'comparing apples with oranges'



Looking at the earlier posts, I am in a notion that there is a comparision going on and I still think so.

Kalikaalam:

Dabbu raagaane 'culture ki thuch' annarante, aa culture antha balam gaa vunnatlu lekka.



We are talking about carbon foot-print by different countries. Asalu culture gurinchi ikkada nenu disco cheyyane ledu. Meeru ala anesariki.. okka sari I went through my posts if I was discussing on culture :P

Btw your comment

Kalikaalam:

Needs, necessities, and luxury ki kudaa situation ni batti defniiton maruthu vuntundi..


I dont agree sir. When we are talking about given set of resources in Mother Earth we can't say Needs, necessities and Luxury are variable and relevant to one-self. They will and have to become global-specific as others are impacted. Hope you understand my point.
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Pepsi/Cola kanukkundi evaru? AC, Refrigerators evaru kanukunnaru? Manaku idi varaku avasarame erpada leda.. Manake kada Enda ekkuva inka!? Em manaki scientific knowledge and resources leva .. Manamu one of the best knowledge outsourcers kaada ?



Let's say, US is just after materialism and doesn't give much hoot the morals. Then why did indians adopt such materialistic pleasure (AC, Fridge etc). Idivaraku leni avasaram ippudu enduku vacchindi?

Do you know why Indian govt. banned Coca Cola in 1977? It is not because of prohibiting sugary drinks but to remove competition for Indian soft drinks. After the so called Liberalization of Economics (PVNR Govt), they opened doors for foreign product to make money. Why do you think indians are riding high horse over the west?

FYI... New York mayor wants to limit sugar products limited to 16 ounce. And, now he wants tobacco products not be sold in plain sight. Talk about responsibility!!

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/supersize_smack_TebHeJsmQ xoOjqawvfuXRL
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/18/17358772-after-bi g-soda-ban-nycs-mayor-bloomberg-wants-to-hide-cigarettes?lit e
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~chirutha~:

And Luxury is Grand-father of Balupu and Desire.




Needs, necessities, and luxury ki kudaa situation ni batti defniiton maruthu vuntundi..

yemi ayinaa oka culture lo responsibbilty yekkuva, inkoka culture lo lot of irrepsonsibilty ani yevaranna ante, adi just arrogance or ignorance..

Anand_n cheppinatluu gaa dabbu financial conditons maarinakaa kuda aa culture alaage continue avuthunte, they deserve apreciation. Dabbu raagaane 'culture ki thuch' annarante, aa culture antha balam gaa vunnatlu lekka.
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And can you tell me how many of US citizens has this habit of saving and living life simple as compared to those of India?!




Yi comparison yela kuduruthundi? idhari economic, social, waetaher condiotions okka laaga lenappudu idi 'comparing apples with oranges' avuthundi.Example:Eastcoast lo peak winter lo inti size ni batti 200 to 500 dollars heating bill vasthundi. Adi india lo vundadu. Alaage ikkada work ki vellalante car lo vellali. Akkada bus vuntundi..alaage incomes lo kudaa chaalaa theda vuntundi. Kaabatti saving chese chances ni batti vuntundi.
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And Luxury is Grand-father of Balupu and Desire.


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Anand_n:

Necessity is the mother of invention ...



And Luxury is Grand-father of Balupu and Desire.


Anand_n:

US was always spread out - sparsely populated - people invented machinery to ease their workload ...



Ante US lo avasaram merake Carbon foot-print vadultunnaru antunnara ? Ok. Here goes the stats.

Per Person emissions in tonnes
US - 18.1 and India - 1.4

You can check the source here http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/datablog/2012/jun/21/w orld-carbon-emissions-league-table-country

Carbon foot print in this new age world would go high along with economic stature of that country. I am sure India would leave a higher foot print in coming age as it has scope for economic betterment.


Anand_n:

Culture evolves based on what is available in a location - daniki morality antagattam tappu antunnanu



Ofcourse, morality undabatte inka dabbulu jagratha ga karchubette alavatu unnavallu unnaru India lo. This behavior is directly related to Carbon fo0t-print. I am sure many would agree on this.
And can you tell me how many of US citizens has this habit of saving and living life simple as compared to those of India?!
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Because if it was in our culture/blood/etc..we should have continued to sleep under trees and eat from banana leaves and only drink coconut water and be happy



Ante law of continuity undalantunnara!? Adi entha varaku sadhyam.. External forces undava denikaina.. So thats why I say, we can't generalize India by this generation's behavior.

I still agree, we as Indians can improve a lot and refrain from wasting natural resources. But at the same time I would like to say today's world is highly influenced by the materialistic westerns.

Pepsi/Cola kanukkundi evaru? AC, Refrigerators evaru kanukunnaru? Manaku idi varaku avasarame erpada leda.. Manake kada Enda ekkuva inka!? Em manaki scientific knowledge and resources leva .. Manamu one of the best knowledge outsourcers kaada ?

Oka chetho pepsi andisthu.. Noti tho neethulu cheppadam vidduram ga undi antunna. I would like to improve / We have to improve ofcourse.
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Ownership and concept undhi choosaaru, amogh idea .....
Abilities addu vachaayi kaani, leka pothe Gaali, , varsham kooda own chesukune vallam.... Just dint how ya...


Adam Smith wont be happy either ..
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Ownership and concept undhi choosaaru, amogh idea .....

Abilities addu vachaayi kaani, leka pothe Gaali, , varsham kooda own chesukune vallam.... Just dint how ya...

May be in the future.. We will be able to
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Anand_n:

but do not see the need to evangelise or impose them on others


not guilty of both!
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Anything that goes against my personal values - so I have a long list and I live by them - but do not see the need to evangelise or impose them on others






maro hillary, mar elizabeth warren laga run for congress or senate.
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Pessimistic people live longer anta




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qdoba for ever






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Pessimistic people live longer anta



Papi (mana DB katthi kaadi) chirayuvu
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Tilak:


US lo valla kitchen food waste sangati nuvvu Cheppedi mostly desis gurinchi that too probably get togethers?

Tellollu ni chudali, entha disciplined ga spend chestaro. Vallintiki dinner ki vekthe manala 10+ items pettaru.

Mana tho compare cheste Majority of tellollu don't cook everyday
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Another study
Pessimistic people live longer anta
http://www.newsmaxhealth.com/Health-News/Pessimistic-People- Live-Longer/2013/02/28/id/492485
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more fuel






Now that's better - give people a motive to cut down :-) While I do not discount the correlation, people in Europe also have more comprehensive healthcare and higher taxes I think :-)

BTW,off topic on studies , here's the one I was laughing my head off - a study released last week that said people who like curly fries on facebook have higher IQs

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more fuel :-)

22 Things Happy People Do Differently
http://www.lifed.com/22-things-happy-people-do-differently#f hrtqdF6IAr6s8oD.01

19. Live minimally.

Happy people rarely keep clutter around the house because they know that extra belongings weigh them down and make them feel overwhelmed and stressed out. Some studies have concluded that Europeans are a lot happier than Americans are, which is interesting because they live in smaller homes, drive simpler cars, and own fewer items.
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Tilak:

any reasons u want to give .. when it is a european country, for example ..



Compare US and european costs and portion sizes:-)


Tilak:

why dont u tell me .. if u consider anything immoral ..



Anything that goes against my personal values - so I have a long list and I live by them - but do not see the need to evangelise or impose them on others :-)


Tilak:

and good for you to judge that it is mere rhetoric ..



Vocab lesson for you :-)
rhetoric :The art of effective or persuasive speaking or writing.

What's your problem with that ? Are you not trying to campaign here for non-materialistic lives ? :-)

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LOL - but you will not admit it is the cost impact and access that changes the behavior overriding the culture


there are many rich western countries like US .. but the wastage isnt that high .. any reasons u want to give .. when it is a european country, for example ..

Anand_n:

I said I object to morally self righteous rhetoric - there's a huge difference between being moral and being self-righteous


why dont u tell me .. if u consider anything immoral .. and good for you to judge that it is mere rhetoric ..
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results meeku convenient ga undettu chudamanaledu .. thats just trivialization of the issue ..




LOL - but you will not admit it is the cost impact and access that changes the behavior overriding the culture :-)

And that is the same reason that food goes waste in the US too - its cheap, there is no major cost impact to the individual :-) US lo food wastage ledu ani nenu analedu - desam lo culture molanchi avvadu anedi dispute chesanu :-)

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What variable changed in the scenarios - culture and conditioning is constant..why did all the indoctrination of 'do not waste' take a back seat in the buffet and why did it come back in the a la carte scenario ?


inka nayam .. mondays vs saturdays compare chesi .. results meeku convenient ga undettu chudamanaledu .. thats just trivialization of the issue ..

if u dont want to admit that large amount of food goes waste from kitchens/plates in US even after evidences/stats .. I dont have an issue with that .. I will just excuse myself from such an argument ..
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Tilak:

ok .. excess consumption and exploitation of the planet is not morally wrong .. cool then ..




there you go attributing things I did not say to me :-) I said I object to morally self righteous rhetoric - there's a huge difference between being moral and being self-righteous :-)

Desam lone unnaru kada - Oka chinna culture experiment cheyyandi..

Oka group of middle class people ne observe cheyyandi at mealtime ...

Scenario 1 : At home
Scenario 2 : At an all you can eat buffet restaurant

Same people , same culture - 99.9 % of the time, at the buffet you will see the same people who clean every grain off their plate at home, will waste a ton of food at the buffet ..

Now scenario 3 : Ask them to order food a la carte at the same restaurant

They will order a fraction of the food they served themselves at the buffet..

Think why ?

What variable changed in the scenarios - culture and conditioning is constant..why did all the indoctrination of 'do not waste' take a back seat in the buffet and why did it come back in the a la carte scenario ? :-)

It is an interesting exercise in understanding behavior :-)

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It is bane.... too baad to the world.... too god tobe part of it...
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Culture evolves based on what is available in a location - daniki morality antagattam tappu antunnanu


Let me ask .. what in this world do you consider immoral?
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you cannot live in this world without being materialistic... (i.e, three dots :D )
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I only object to the morally righteous rhetoric


ok .. excess consumption and exploitation of the planet is not morally wrong .. cool then ..
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maa voorloo plastic bags ban chesaru..inti nundi kooragayala sanchi theesukellali groceries ki..good old fashion way..


EU is way ahead of any other nation or unions when it comes to implementing laws that protect nature... ireland lanti sinna desham 2002 lone 15cents plastic bag levy start sesi 70% plastic usage tagginchesindi...
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True Because if it was in our culture/blood/etc..we should have continued to sleep under trees and eat from banana leaves and only drink coconut water and be happy - do not see that happening India or Indians - self included




5 strs to the whole post..This part deserves more stars..
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~chirutha~:

So India lo idi varaku dabbunna valle lera? Okavela meeru cheppinatlu dabbunte manavallu thakkuva thinevaru kaadu antunnaru ga.. Evaru vallu? Eppati tharam vallu?




Eppati tharam ayina we can only compare peoples who have equal access to the same set of amenities antunna :-)



~chirutha~:

Manavallu kobbari bondale taagevallu, ariti aakula meede thinevallu, Chettu needa lo padukune vallu. Vallu entha dabbunna vallayina sare.




Ikkada winter weather lo chettu kinda padukovatam sadhyama ? Kobbari bondalu/ ariti-akulu anni chotla dorukutaya ...north india lone ariti-aku lo tinaru, kobbari bondalu tagaru - lassi tagutaru- US lo apple cider :-)

Culture evolves based on what is available in a location - daniki morality antagattam tappu antunnanu :-)Necessity is the mother of invention ...


~chirutha~:

meeru kuda ipati gen ni drusti lo pettukuni India ni and its good old way-of-living ni generalise chestunnaru.




True :-) Because if it was in our culture/blood/etc..we should have continued to sleep under trees and eat from banana leaves and only drink coconut water and be happy - do not see that happening India or Indians - self included :-)

Manual labor undi machinery avasaram raledu - ippudu domestic help taggindi or become expensive - people want dishwashers , washing machines - increasing their carbon footprint too:-)

US was always spread out - sparsely populated - people invented machinery to ease their workload ...

Anyway - I have never advocated wastage or excess(excess is relative) consumption - I only object to the morally righteous rhetoric :-)

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~chirutha~:

Athanu ela generalize chesi western impact ni teesukuvachadoo.. meeru kuda ipati gen ni drusti lo pettukuni India ni and its good old way-of-living ni generalise chestunnaru.



Kalikaalam:

ikkada problem yemiti ante, Nenu ayina, nuvvu ayina India lo, 'aava ginja lo 60 va vanthu' chusaamu. Daanini chusi maaku india antha ardham ayyindi anukontaamu. Khachitham gaa 100 Kms radius loni vilalges lo thirigthene, oka village life style ki inkoka village life style ki sambhandam vundadu. Paiga India ni ardhma chesukovadma ante, india loni villages ni ardham chesukovadam. Ippatiki atleast 70% villages lo vunnaaru anukntunnaanu(exact statisitcs theliyadu). Kabatti, generalize cheyyalemu. Kanai, naaku thelisinatha varaku, 'dabbu vundi, kharchu pettakunda vunna vallu chaalaa thakkuva mandi'. Ate, dabbu ante pinaasithanma gaa vundevalalu veru. vallu yelaagu pettaru.




chaalaa clear gaa cheppaa..naku thelisinanthavaraku ani.Nenu velle 3 weeks trip(once in 2 or 3 years)lo nenu mahaa ayithe chusedi maa vuru ni. Aa maatram danike India motham naku thelusu ane bhrama naku ledu..Nenu cheppindi tappu kuda ayivundochu. Maa vuru kakunnda, miglina vullu anni inkaa venukati ki laagaane vunnayemo kudaa theliyadu.
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I think recycling is a buss too..

I helps the average over consuming citizen...to be at peace by throwing a coke can in a recycle bin and feel 'I am doing my part..global warming is a bixtch.'

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~chirutha~:

Athanu ela generalize chesi western impact ni teesukuvachadoo..


nenu generalize chesana? em chesaanu? akkada unna stats gurinche matladaanu tappa .. adi kuda tappe ante em chesedi .. khandinchatam tappa ..

btw .. good post .. 5 stars .. to u and zulu ..
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Kalikaalam:

Maa ivlalge lo 100 families vuntaayi. Recent gaa India vellinappudu chusthe, chaalaa mandiki(I think more than 60% of the houses) ki AC lu vunnaayi. Chinna birhtdya parties ayina kudaa dummu dulipesthunnaru kharchu. Vullo vunna guntala nida, plastic used cups, and plates..chuss..idi maa vurenaa anipinchindi..



Anand_n:

Indian houses do not have a huge carbon footprint because people cannot afford it - afford cheyalgaligiteiAC pettukuntaru carbon footprint avutundi ani manesinavallu evaru telidu



So India lo idi varaku dabbunna valle lera? Okavela meeru cheppinatlu dabbunte manavallu thakkuva thinevaru kaadu antunnaru ga.. Evaru vallu? Eppati tharam vallu?

@Kalikaalam, Meeru cheppindi nijame, ipudu evaru nature gurinchi pattinchukovadam ledu. Cos we are influenced alot in the past couple of decades.

@Anand_n, Manavallu kobbari bondale taagevallu, ariti aakula meede thinevallu, Chettu needa lo padukune vallu. Vallu entha dabbunna vallayina sare. Don't you agree? Tilak argument lo okavela tappunte mee argument lo kuda tappundi. Athanu ela generalize chesi western impact ni teesukuvachadoo.. meeru kuda ipati gen ni drusti lo pettukuni India ni and its good old way-of-living ni generalise chestunnaru.
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maa voorloo plastic bags ban chesaru..inti nundi kooragayala sanchi theesukellali groceries ki..good old fashion way..
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Simba:

Can you pull up the numbers behind food grain wastage in FCI go-downs?


you can do the honors .. right?
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recycling is busssssssss... reuse or no use are the only options ...
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gee materialism etc pakkanetti Bag it documentary soodandi ... u will realise how oil and plastic industry is screwing the earth and public...
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Anand_n:

Monna ma gudilo sarvadevata abhishekam chesi oka 100-120 litres milk down the drain - what does that fall under - materialism/consumerism or spirituality and harmony with nature?




Idi malli inkoka topic. Alaa paalu shivudi nethi poyyadam valana, yededo jarigi..prakruthi parvasinchi varshalu kuripishtundi antaaru.. manakemo okka mukka theliaydu aa topic mida.."phalaanaa puranam lo chepapru", 'phalaanaa vedam lo cheppaaru" antaaru. manam bebbe..antam thappa cheyyakaligindi ledu..
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Tilak:



Can you pull up the numbers behind food grain wastage in FCI go-downs?
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Zulu:

but we continue that habit even when we have surplus of water..




yekkada? Gantala tharapadi showers chesthu..inka water save chesedi??

yi argument ki dari, anthu vundadu. yevari openion valladi, eyvari experience valladi..
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Comparison ki two sides data with all else being equal undali :-)

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http://www.nbcnews.com/business/americans-throw-away-40-perc ent-their-food-study-959078

For eg ... not bashing anyone ..
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manalo chaala mandiki nellu waste cheyyali ante gunde kalukku mantundi...




And ade manavallu ikkada restaurants lo mohamata padataru emo kani - tellollu nirmohamantam ga plate lo migilindi to go bags lo kattinchukoni veltaru - wastage culture aa ?:-)

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E Tilakam kurrodi image atta edisindi..edi matladina west bashing..hindutva anukuntunnaru janalu


:D
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kancham emi migalchakunda thintaru..




Ikkada culture lo ledu anukovatam ignorance avutundi - waste not want not - eppudu vinaleda :-)

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E Tilakam kurrodi image atta edisindi..edi matladina west bashing..hindutva anukuntunnaru janalu



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manalo chaala mandiki nellu waste cheyyali ante gunde kalukku mantundi...may be that stemmed from scarcity of water..but we continue that habit even when we have surplus of water..
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100-120 litres milk down the drain


hehe

IMO
wastage by consumption is secondary to human naturez( no bio here)
evari paridhi lo wallu sethunay unnaru

25 yrs back India lo lower middle class % is huge...it is now still
but a considerable % moved to upper/higher middle class
consumption increases...wastage increases
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E Tilakam kurrodi image atta edisindi..edi matladina west bashing..hindutva anukuntunnaru janalu
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India lo atleast konthamanadi culture lo food pareyyatam anedi thappu..kancham emi migalchakunda thintaru..now please dont tell me ..vallantha food afford cheyyaleru anduke ala thintaru ani..

some things are passed on to us..from generations..even if their exact intent is not to be environment friendly...lack of affordability ani trivialize cheyyatam konchum shallow thinking anipisthundi..
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Kalikaalam:

Devudi gullo prasadam kuda plastic bags lo petti isthunnaaru.




:-) Monna ma gudilo sarvadevata abhishekam chesi oka 100-120 litres milk down the drain - what does that fall under - materialism/consumerism or spirituality and harmony with nature? :-)

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sare... maa office lo unna tellollanu DB lo account create chesukomani chepta. They can represent rest of US population.


sare .. problem ni ela address chesina parledu .. issue solve cheste chaalu ..
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nenu NRIs ni particular ga emi analede? NRIs matrame sanjayishi ichukovalsina avasaram ledu ..



sare... maa office lo unna tellollanu DB lo account create chesukomani chepta. They can represent rest of US population.
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mari NRIs andaru palace la lo untunnara? Bulk of them are still living in apartments.


nenu NRIs ni particular ga emi analede? NRIs matrame sanjayishi ichukovalsina avasaram ledu ..
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Are they the avg Janardhan's of India? or are they the richest of the society ..



mari NRIs andaru palace la lo untunnara? Bulk of them are still living in apartments.
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Avg Janardhan's of India can't afford


so with riches come irresponsibility towards earth and disregard for nature .. adena baba bottom line?
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Chinna birhtdya parties ayina kudaa dummu dulipesthunnaru kharchu. Vullo vunna guntala nida, plastic used cups, and plates..chuss..idi maa vurenaa anipinchindi..

Devudi gullo prasadam kuda plastic bags lo petti isthunnaaru.



Oka 15 ella kritam alage undedaa? manalo kuda ee madhya vedhavalanu tayaru chesamu ane kada cheptunna ..

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ikkada problem yemiti ante, Nenu ayina, nuvvu ayina India lo, 'aava ginja lo 60 va vanthu' chusaamu. Daanini chusi maaku india antha ardham ayyindi anukontaamu. Khachitham gaa 100 Kms radius loni vilalges lo thirigthene, oka village life style ki inkoka village life style ki sambhandam vundadu. Paiga India ni ardhma chesukovadma ante, india loni villages ni ardham chesukovadam. Ippatiki atleast 70% villages lo vunnaaru anukntunnaanu(exact statisitcs theliyadu). Kabatti, generalize cheyyalemu. Kanai, naaku thelisinatha varaku, 'dabbu vundi, kharchu pettakunda vunna vallu chaalaa thakkuva mandi'. Ate, dabbu ante pinaasithanma gaa vundevalalu veru. vallu yelaagu pettaru.


sare .. naaku emi telidu .. nenu mana Desam chudaledu .. chadavaledu .. naaku India ardam kaaledu .. so nenu matladakudadu .. ok
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Kalikaalam:

Recent gaa India vellinappudu chusthe, chaalaa mandiki(I think more than 60% of the houses) ki AC lu vunnaayi.



Tilak:

"pedha pedha kompal" lo enduku undaali? grand american dream aa? (ofcourse ippudu grand global dream aipoyindi anuko .. unfortunately)




culture maaripoyina taravata .. andaram suntalame ayyamu .. ane cheppa nenu kuda .. oka 10-15 ella kritam varaku .. Bharata Desam .. Bharateeyulu veru ga undevaaru .. (kaani ippatiki kondaru migilaaru - namoonalu ga) ..
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I know .. so I speak ..




ikkada problem yemiti ante, Nenu ayina, nuvvu ayina India lo, 'aava ginja lo 60 va vanthu' chusaamu. Daanini chusi maaku india antha ardham ayyindi anukontaamu. Khachitham gaa 100 Kms radius loni vilalges lo thirigthene, oka village life style ki inkoka village life style ki sambhandam vundadu. Paiga India ni ardhma chesukovadma ante, india loni villages ni ardham chesukovadam. Ippatiki atleast 70% villages lo vunnaaru anukntunnaanu(exact statisitcs theliyadu). Kabatti, generalize cheyyalemu. Kanai, naaku thelisinatha varaku, 'dabbu vundi, kharchu pettakunda vunna vallu chaalaa thakkuva mandi'. Ate, dabbu ante pinaasithanma gaa vundevalalu veru. vallu yelaagu pettaru.
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Anand_n:

Indian houses do not have a huge carbon footprint because people cannot afford it - afford cheyalgaligiteiAC pettukuntaru carbon footprint avutundi ani manesinavallu evaru telidu




ide point ninna post chedhamanu konnanu.Time leka veyyaledu.

Mana daggara dabbu leka, kharhcu petta leka musukoni kurchonnaamaa? Asalu mana culture lone 'environment friendly' life style vundaa?? First de correct anipishtondi. Maa ivlalge lo 100 families vuntaayi. Recent gaa India vellinappudu chusthe, chaalaa mandiki(I think more than 60% of the houses) ki AC lu vunnaayi. Chinna birhtdya parties ayina kudaa dummu dulipesthunnaru kharchu. Vullo vunna guntala nida, plastic used cups, and plates..chuss..idi maa vurenaa anipinchindi..

Devudi gullo prasadam kuda plastic bags lo petti isthunnaaru.
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Tilak:

Are they the avg Janardhan's of India?



Avg Janardhan's of India can't afford
last year we have similar disco on food wastage in America
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Indian's podhupu etc.
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how are subbarami reddies, ramojees, ambanees living in India?


Are they the avg Janardhan's of India? or are they the richest of the society ..

more over .. I dont even see them as the representatives of India statistically ..
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Anand_n:

People here consume energy because they have easy access to it ...people in poor countries do not have access or cannot afford so they do not have an impact on the carbon footprint - why try to give a moralistic 'we are taught to live in harmony' they are materialistic pitch ?


If thats how you want to trivialize the whole "energy consumption culture" of those countries and people .. then lets stop our arguments, for there is no point in denying truth its value ..

Anand_n:

afford cheyalgaligiteiAC pettukuntaru carbon footprint avutundi ani manesinavallu evaru telidu



I know .. so I speak .. but anyways .. lets stop it ..
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Zulu:

correst answer...ninnu test chedham ani adiga..pattesav..promotion kottesav





Tilak:


how are subbarami reddies, ramojees, ambanees living in India?
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Speak for the unsaid in your mind only - you are unlikely to guess what is in mine :-)
When you remove the connection between culture and supply demand you will see the fallacy in your argument...
I said the other day too do not confuse lack of affordability with abstinence :-)
People here consume energy because they have easy access to it ...people in poor countries do not have access or cannot afford so they do not have an impact on the carbon footprint - why try to give a moralistic 'we are taught to live in harmony' they are materialistic pitch ?

Indian houses do not have a huge carbon footprint because people cannot afford it - afford cheyalgaligiteiAC pettukuntaru carbon footprint avutundi ani manesinavallu evaru telidu :-)

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Show me where I said that ? Why are you attributing statements I did not make ?
You attributed the size of house to the american dream and I corrected that



size of house is just one thing - there are many things that are unsaid .. the 35% resources of the world being consumed by 3% of the world .. 65% resources consumed by 20% of the world etc .. plz look at the carbon foot print per person in those countries and then rebut ..

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Meeru old sprawling Indian houses chudaledu emo - nenu chala chusanu and from childhood was told pedda illu kattali , it was always a mark of wealth and status - I was never told you need to live in the smallest home possible to be harmonius with nature - maybe a flaw in my upbringing


where did I even say smallest home = harmony with nature? India lo sprawling houses unte undachu gaaka .. but they dont consume huge amounts of energy (atleast until 10 years ago) unlike in the west .. why not admit that? Carbon foot print ki .. materialism ki ye relation undo cheppandi .. we can discuss ..
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Tilak:

Indians are "excessively consumerist" ane sweeping statement




Show me where I said that ? Why are you attributing statements I did not make ?
You attributed the size of house to the american dream and I corrected that :-)

Meeru old sprawling Indian houses chudaledu emo - nenu chala chusanu and from childhood was told pedda illu kattali , it was always a mark of wealth and status - I was never told you need to live in the smallest home possible to be harmonius with nature - maybe a flaw in my upbringing :-)

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Anyways .. later then .. I made my point ..
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I believe no matter how much we try to damage the nature.. it will try to take care of itself... in its own way..


why do you believe so? may i ask ..
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Tilak:

Bottomline is .. this is a beautiful planet and our only home .. worship her beauty .. celebrate its beauty .. nurture nature .. and more importantly .. last but not the least .. Respect nature ..




I believe no matter how much we try to damage the nature.. it will try to take care of itself... in its own way..
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Bottomline is .. this is a beautiful planet and our only home .. worship her beauty .. celebrate its beauty .. nurture nature .. and more importantly .. last but not the least .. Respect nature ..
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Kalikaalam:

Gandhi ji korukonnadi, aayana aacharinchi chupindi ide. Malli aayananu buthulu dobbuthaave?? Gandhiji' style of economics is MUST for the environment.


Gandhi economics ni eppudaina sare boothulu tittana? asalu for that matter .. gandhi ni "boothulu" eppudu tittanu? I critic his political naivette/opportunism .. I admire his understanding of India though ..

Anand_n:


Kaadu Grand Indian Dream Mana Rashtrapati bhavan compare cheste White house enta untundi ?

Mana mysore palace to compare cheste ikkada mansions enta untayi ...

Size of dwelling has been an indicator of status in desam for ages - Indrabhavanam lanti illu undali anedi mana concept e - american dream ninna kaka monna vachindi - annitini west meda blame cheyyatam enduku


This is just too much of generalization .. Britishers kattukunna Rashtrapati Bhavan (see its origins) .. Royals vaade Mysore palace valla .. Indians are "excessively consumerist" ane sweeping statement correcte na?

Btw .. Indra Bhavanam lanti illu .. aakasam antha pandiri veyyali ani undachu India lo .. but thats only half the truth .. the remaining half is .. we have been told to live harmoniously with nature (and we live by that willingly and happily) .. and most of births/deaths/festivals/celebrations are only proof of that .. so plz dont blame Indians to be as guilty of materialism as are Americans ..
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Yentha thagithe too much, yentha thinte too much ante yemi chebuthamu? yevadidhi vaadike theliyaali.




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What is too much ani adigevallaki mee answer?




Yentha thagithe too much, yentha thinte too much ante yemi chebuthamu? yevadidhi vaadike theliyaali.
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Tilak:

"pedha pedha kompal" lo enduku undaali? grand american dream aa?




Kaadu Grand Indian Dream :-) Mana Rashtrapati bhavan compare cheste White house enta untundi ?

Mana mysore palace to compare cheste ikkada mansions enta untayi ...

Size of dwelling has been an indicator of status in desam for ages - Indrabhavanam lanti illu undali anedi mana concept e - american dream ninna kaka monna vachindi - annitini west meda blame cheyyatam enduku :-)

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Aslau life style lone chnage avvaali. too much of consumerism ni thagginchukovaali.



What is too much ani adigevallaki mee answer?
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adi naa bottom line ..




Gandhi ji korukonnadi, aayana aacharinchi chupindi ide. Malli aayananu buthulu dobbuthaave?? Gandhiji' style of economics is MUST for the environment.
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Aslau life style lone chnage avvaali. too much of consumerism ni thagginchukovaali.


adi naa bottom line ..
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Simba:

Maaku every 2 weeks ki recycling untundi.




Maa area lo every week regular trash tho paatu pick chesukontaaru.

kani yi recycling kudaa environment ki work avvadam ledu antunnaaru. Mana daggara pick chesukovadam, sort cheyyadam, malli vere valala ku ivvadam...dini valana ayye power, water expenses, yi process lo release ayye polution..idi antha vatti bussu antunnaaru.Monna maa ocmmunity college lo jarigina free workshop lo cheppaaru..

Aslau life style lone chnage avvaali. too much of consumerism ni thagginchukovaali.
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unfortunately, recycle day miss ayithay one week trash stock cheyyali vasthundhee




Any harware store lo inkoka bin konukko. 'Ace hardware' vaadu chaalaa thakkuva ki ammutaadu recyle bins. Inka local gaa mi area lo yevaranna vundochu ilaa thkkuva ki ammevaallu..
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Tilak:

mari aa pacific/atlantic/Indian oceans lo plastic waste antha ekkadidi?


desham lo govt kurrol vesaydhee in addition to waste from pvt factories
ippudu ee scrap konna waadu 100% use seyyadu kadhaa...so aa waste plus waadi regular waste anni akkadikay kalusthaaye

also ee madhya dumping yards ettaru...but entha % of trash collected is going there? poni akkada tagala bettina open air...proper combustion untaadhi antay I doubt
west lo collected trash disposal dumping at sea antay hippie kurrol ooogipothaar...dont think it happens
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kaadhu he sells it for scrap material


mari aa pacific/atlantic/Indian oceans lo plastic waste antha ekkadidi?
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Tilak:

vaadu ala teesukelli musi lo kalipestadu anukunta


kaadhu he sells it for scrap material
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plastic karagabetti spoons, forks tayaaru chesi ammuthaa untaan anukunnava


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nela ku okasari, maa veedhi lo bandi meeda okadi vastadu. Kaali seesalu, papers lu teeskoni putnalu, bellam istadu


vaadu ala teesukelli musi lo kalipestadu anukunta .. ika atu nunchi bay of bengal .. Indian ocean .. :D
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Tilak:

how do u do it at home ani mokaalu gokings



nela ku okasari, maa veedhi lo bandi meeda okadi vastadu. Kaali seesalu, papers lu teeskoni putnalu, bellam istadu :-)
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Simba:

but trash anni rojulu unchukunte kampu kottadu?




trash antey mostly plastic bags, baby wipes, ballons, bandages, binders, ceramic dishes, chip bags, cookie bags, corning wares, dryer kint, florist foam etc

Organic waste more smelly vuntadi, so adi every week teesukelthadu, Garbage mostly plastic black bags lo vesi, bins lo pedatham

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Tilak:

how do u do it at home ani mokaalu gokings


plastic karagabetti spoons, forks tayaaru chesi ammuthaa untaan anukunnava
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Nanigadu:

maku every week vuntadi idi, TRASH mathram every 2 weeks



adenti meetku ulta undhi.

Maaku trash twice a week and recycle once in 2 weeks. Bottles/cardboard lantivi bin lo unte no problem, but trash anni rojulu unchukunte kampu kottadu?
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Simba:

Maaku every 2 weeks ki recycling untundi. We place all the plastic bottles, flatten the card boards, packaging materials separately.




maku every week vuntadi idi, TRASH mathram every 2 weeks

first lo edi trash oh edi recycle theliyaka chacchey vadini, deeniki thodu maku organic waste seperate bin :D
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Humpty_dumpty:

thursdays ...all mix plus recycle stuff...recycle kee separate butta isthaad ...andulo nimpi curbside pettali


oh ok .. ippudu ardam ayyindi .. I do ante .. how do u do it at home ani mokaalu gokings :D

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Maaku every 2 weeks ki recycling untundi. We place all the plastic bottles, flatten the card boards, packaging materials separately. If we attempt to trash anything, we get a moral lecture from our daughter


99% mandiki ee responsibility undadu annai .. alanti vallaki rights undakapothe better .. the world has to come out of mad "consumerist" consumption cycle .. dangerous for earth and even humans ..
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Chillarodu:

enti idhi one week stock aa?


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Tilak:

how do "you" recycle? I didnt get it ..


trash pickup truck comes twice a week
mondays ...all mix
thursdays ...all mix plus recycle stuff...recycle kee separate butta isthaad ...andulo nimpi curbside pettali

cardboard boxes, plastic, bottles etc...iyaani trash lo veyyakundaa alaa side butta nimputhaanu

simba unkl seppinattu batteries and electronix saringaa set seyyali...righ now elec. disposal antha scene ledhu....battery disposal is all mix...sinappudu MCH waadu veedhi trash kee fire antisthay anduo batteries vesay waadnee for spl effect
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Maaku every 2 weeks ki recycling untundi. We place all the plastic bottles, flatten the card boards, packaging materials separately. If we attempt to trash anything, we get a moral lecture from our daughter :-)
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Zulu:

ante mamoolu ga ante mari mamoolu ga pedha pedha kompal lo unte..or pedha pedha carlu nadipithey ekkuva electricity..water..gas consumption untundi..kadha


"pedha pedha kompal" lo enduku undaali? grand american dream aa? (ofcourse ippudu grand global dream aipoyindi anuko .. unfortunately)
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ante mamoolu ga ante mari mamoolu ga pedha pedha kompal lo unte..or pedha pedha carlu nadipithey ekkuva electricity..water..gas consumption untundi..kadha
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Humpty_dumpty:

Since last 6 months I am trying to as recycle pick up is on separate day


how do "you" recycle? I didnt get it ..

Chillarodu:

poor contribute to more wastage than rich anukuntunna..


even then .. rich are only 2-3% of the society .. rest of them are poor and just above poverty line .. so that makes it even more difficult?

Simba:

Can't comment about others but I recycle my obsolete gadgets. Local libraries usually accept old electronics, batteries for recycling, at free of cost.


all said and done .. we have already made a big big ecological impact .. we can see that ..

Simba:

I don't even delete my files directly. I always move them to Recycling Bin before emptying


thats a good one .. :D
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Humpty_dumpty:

ee roju oka 25-30 beer, wine etc bottles waraku vachaayi




vaammo.. enti idhi one week stock aa?
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Tilak:

what about 95% people (or may be higher %)? do they go for recycling the waste? seriously?



Can't comment about others but I recycle my obsolete gadgets. Local libraries usually accept old electronics, batteries for recycling, at free of cost.

I don't even delete my files directly. I always move them to Recycling Bin before emptying :D
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Tilak:

what about 95% people (or may be higher %)? do they go for recycling the waste? seriously?




recycle vishyam lo.. poor contribute to more wastage than rich anukuntunna..

as normal people cannot afford good things that last longer.. cheap products which are not durable kontaaru..
I believe rich people kante.. aam janta.. ekkuva trash chesthaaru anukuntunna..
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Tilak:

do they go for recycling the waste


Since last 6 months I am trying to as recycle pick up is on separate day

unfortunately, recycle day miss ayithay one week trash stock cheyyali vasthundhee
so appudu all mix tappatledhu
ee roju oka 25-30 beer, wine etc bottles waraku vachaayi :-(
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Simba:

One could be very materialistic with purchases and still be recycling the waste. Other could be living in less but just trashing all the plastic he discards. Being earth-friendly has nothing to do with the life-style.


Yeah .. thats a could be .. not impossible .. agreed ..

what about 95% people (or may be higher %)? do they go for recycling the waste? seriously?
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One could be very materialistic with purchases and still be recycling the waste. Other could be living in less but just trashing all the plastic he discards. Being earth-friendly has nothing to do with the life-style.
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Last week .. Mav post chesina "Living with less" thread lo .. materialism ni follow avvadam lo tappu ledu ani chaala mandi argue chesaru .. for such people this is a must read .. whats the impact of such a 'way of living' and is it even ethical/moral to do such ecological damage is a question everyone should ask themselves ..

http://quicktake.wordpress.com/2012/04/29/cars-tvs-that-last -25-years/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_Garbage_Patch

PS - I am not asking any one to live in abject penury .. so dont waste my time arguing in such lines ..
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