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     Oohlala Comedian Username: Oohlala Post Number: 1287 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 173.36.196.11 Rating: N/A |
antha scene ledu naku  Palo Alto lo just oka 10M house koni pareyandi, lamborghini pakkana baguntundi
agree....EU demons are slowly coming out, makes you wonder what else is in store...last decade was the most hypocritical decade anipistundi only pretty on the outside.... Also, I don't get the too big to fail, may be we need to let them fail and reach rock bottom faster to start rebuilding carefully all over again | ||
| Raman Side Hero Username: Raman Post Number: 3226 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 173.21.250.14 Rating: N/A |
oops wrong thread | ||
| Raman Side Hero Username: Raman Post Number: 3225 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 173.21.250.14 Rating: N/A |
oka venkateswarlu oka zulu venky fans ante nammaledu gaani oka jackson ante sure ga nammutamu  | ||
| Gandhiguevara Megastar Username: Gandhiguevara Post Number: 21397 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 75.55.199.5 Rating: N/A |
Anduke Sri Lanka antha kompa US dollors etti konodhu ani cheppindhi | ||
| Entikaburlu Side Hero Username: Entikaburlu Post Number: 2686 Registered: 07-2011 Posted From: 67.247.83.224 Rating: N/A |
cheppalemu, but they are correlated. hard to imagine housing market flying when unemployment is high. but keep in mind though, houses are also commodities. at some point demand catches up and values start rising. but then, will buying/building a house make sense when compared to renting needs to be seen. If taxes go up steeply, they will deter people from owning homes. | ||
| Entikaburlu Side Hero Username: Entikaburlu Post Number: 2685 Registered: 07-2011 Posted From: 67.247.83.224 Rating: N/A |
Debt and Deficit are different. US has 13 tr debt on 4 tr GDP. the 4% I was talking is this year's deficit. Yearly deficits add to the debt, | ||
| Film_fan Hero Username: Film_fan Post Number: 19026 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.138.131.153 Rating: N/A |
I'm interested in how spain is doing.....the eternal brother of Italy.... europe suit open chesthunnaru......slow ga.....idhi varaku bokkala baniyan anukunna....ippudu banian ye ledhu ani ardham avuthundhi...... We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit. -- Aristotle | ||
| Ipc302 Moderator Username: Ipc302 Post Number: 10577 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
Yes, its government debt to GDP ratio stands at a lofty 127% -- the highest in the euro zone outside of Greece -- but that level is more or less where it was in the late 1990s Read more: http://curiouscapitalist.blogs.time.com/2011/11/09/five-reas ons-italy-should-scare-you/#ixzz1dIf3Ek3X | ||
| Kamal Megastar Username: Kamal Post Number: 29758 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 117.195.236.9 Rating: N/A |
Italy's debt is 120% its value of GDP .. endi annai too big to fall/fail? thats silly .. people who consume more than what they can produce are bound to face its consequence .. its anything but natural .. Italy should produce more than what it needs or else cut its consumption and learn to start living austerely! http://youtu.be/N1duR9XCtSY - Jaya He Bharati .. | ||
| Oohlala Comedian Username: Oohlala Post Number: 1282 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 64.104.249.41 Rating: N/A |
oh wow, unemployment tho patu housing market kooda 10-15 yrs padutunda US lo? | ||
| Entikaburlu Side Hero Username: Entikaburlu Post Number: 2682 Registered: 07-2011 Posted From: 67.247.83.224 Rating: N/A |
Cannot say. today's italy exposure writeoff is a shocker, honestly. what else is in the cupboards we do not know. | ||
| Sensexxxxx Side Hero Username: Sensexxxxx Post Number: 2064 Registered: 08-2011 Posted From: 69.141.156.218 Rating: N/A |
what is the future of big banks..any one going in lehmans way in near future? | ||
| Entikaburlu Side Hero Username: Entikaburlu Post Number: 2681 Registered: 07-2011 Posted From: 67.247.83.224 Rating: N/A |
:-)) Evariki!! 7-8% unemployment 10-15 years untundani Bernanke cheppadu kadaa. daaniki preparayi povadame. | ||
| Seemabidda Junior Artist Username: Seemabidda Post Number: 543 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 117.120.16.133 Rating: N/A |
Bottom line yenti? Recession malli vasthundha? | ||
| Entikaburlu Side Hero Username: Entikaburlu Post Number: 2680 Registered: 07-2011 Posted From: 67.247.83.224 Rating: N/A |
bottom line : US Markets are addicted to Black Swan events. Huge money to be made on swings like today. They are creating them out of thin air. They use 401K funds to buy up. Short in own accounts. Create Black Swan events and make money. | ||
| Dosakaaya Side Hero Username: Dosakaaya Post Number: 6600 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 68.198.77.7 Rating: N/A |
countries with too much social benefits are getting screwed in an order.. | ||
| Dosakaaya Side Hero Username: Dosakaaya Post Number: 6599 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 68.198.77.7 Rating: N/A |
bottomline what is the problem? single currency system in the name of Euro? | ||
| Entikaburlu Side Hero Username: Entikaburlu Post Number: 2676 Registered: 07-2011 Posted From: 67.247.83.224 Rating: N/A |
Damn 80Bn !! | ||
| Entikaburlu Side Hero Username: Entikaburlu Post Number: 2675 Registered: 07-2011 Posted From: 67.247.83.224 Rating: N/A |
4% of 2000 Bn = 8Bn sorry! | ||
| Entikaburlu Side Hero Username: Entikaburlu Post Number: 2674 Registered: 07-2011 Posted From: 67.247.83.224 Rating: N/A |
It very well may! The whole trouble is with a ~4% deficit of a 2 Trillion GDP, which is 8Bn Dollars! For that, the US shareholders are losing 30Bn a day! Incidentally, 8Bn is what Fannie May is asking the US this quarter to contunue running. Apple makes a net profit of 14Bn a quarter. A poor country like India has 240Bn in bank. They are the comparative figures. | ||
| Methhanithodugu Hero Username: Methhanithodugu Post Number: 13176 Registered: 12-2008 Posted From: 59.93.71.139 Rating: N/A |
MMS will bail out Sonia G will divert the traffick....Italy safe we will let Black money legit  | ||
| Entikaburlu Side Hero Username: Entikaburlu Post Number: 2673 Registered: 07-2011 Posted From: 67.247.83.224 Rating: N/A |
ayundochu, but it will be a balanced budget. It's like why would TTD have a deficit budget, even if AP has a deficit budget.. | ||
| Chitti_v2 Side Hero Username: Chitti_v2 Post Number: 2099 Registered: 01-2011 Posted From: 98.221.195.120 Rating: N/A |
idi part of italian govt budget anukunnaane? | ||
| Entikaburlu Side Hero Username: Entikaburlu Post Number: 2672 Registered: 07-2011 Posted From: 67.247.83.224 Rating: N/A |
No idea. I doubt any of this will matter to Vatican at all. They are not a County in the sense of a Central Bank etc. I doubt they would have an unbalanced/deficit budget. | ||
| Chitti_v2 Side Hero Username: Chitti_v2 Post Number: 2097 Registered: 01-2011 Posted From: 98.221.195.120 Rating: N/A |
*vatican | ||
| Chitti_v2 Side Hero Username: Chitti_v2 Post Number: 2096 Registered: 01-2011 Posted From: 98.221.195.120 Rating: N/A |
catican meeda deeni effect eto seppandi | ||
| Entikaburlu Side Hero Username: Entikaburlu Post Number: 2670 Registered: 07-2011 Posted From: 67.247.83.224 Rating: N/A |
In general, any country is too big to fail. They bootstrap themselves over a period of time. I have seen many financial disasters around the world : Japan (1985), India (1987), Indonesia (1995), Malaysia (1997). Compared to these, what happened in Italy is miniscule. Actually nothing happened in Italy today/yday per se. Expecting that Italy will have to face a deficit (like USA), and expecting that Moodys will cut their rating (like US in Sept), the current lenders of Italian Bonds have sold them off for steeply lesser value than their face value. An effect of that is the rise in the yield of the loan. It's like a sudden fall in the stock price of a company expecting a loss vs actually company making a loss on the balance sheet. My take is, people will realize that they were steeply sold off, and a new set of buyers will start buying these bonds and slowly the yields will restore. | ||
| 2009 Junior Artist Username: 2009 Post Number: 554 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 96.18.202.75 Rating: N/A |
Too big to fail Too fat to die ento antha Ishnu maaya | ||
| Entikaburlu Side Hero Username: Entikaburlu Post Number: 2668 Registered: 07-2011 Posted From: 67.247.83.224 Rating: N/A |
ardham kaledu.. | ||
| Oohlala Comedian Username: Oohlala Post Number: 1281 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 64.104.249.41 Rating: N/A |
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| Entikaburlu Side Hero Username: Entikaburlu Post Number: 2666 Registered: 07-2011 Posted From: 67.247.83.224 Rating: N/A |
Italy is too big to fail. the yields will ultimately return to normalcy. So, you buy 1000 lira bonds for 500 lira now, and sell for 700 in a few months, you get almost 50% return in a few months. Invest 10Bn, you make 5Bn. Google and read how Soros made his first Billions back in 90s betting on UK Bonds | ||
| Bar_and_ha_cub Junior Artist Username: Bar_and_ha_cub Post Number: 159 Registered: 09-2011 Posted From: 174.63.84.29 Rating: N/A |
How ?? Are you expecting the yields to go down? Unless, Italy gets a bailout, which they cannot afford, from other Euro Zone members default seems inevitable. On the political front, Berlusconi wants to go for polls - So no major budget cuts or any other actions are expected from Government.He asked IMF to oversee the economic reforms, but no other EU nation is in a position to afford the bail out( though not as much as of Italy's yields on French Bonds shot up 140 bps), the last ray of hope for IMF is China. If the uncertainty prevails with no pertinent action, Italy may default on debt payments( making the debt worthless), wonder why would anybody want to play default risk though trading at deep discount. | ||
| Entikaburlu Side Hero Username: Entikaburlu Post Number: 2661 Registered: 07-2011 Posted From: 67.247.83.224 Rating: N/A |
looks like another round of write offs around 7Bn per bank. | ||
| Emc2 Side Hero Username: Emc2 Post Number: 4337 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 71.191.141.155 Rating: N/A |
you mean that's it US banks are going to dogs? cherapakura chedevu. | ||
| Entikaburlu Side Hero Username: Entikaburlu Post Number: 2655 Registered: 07-2011 Posted From: 67.247.83.224 Rating: N/A |
Situation has become extremely complicated for average investors. Unless you have a phD in finance, you cannot relate stuff nowadays. As a result, anything can happen. for example, the press reports that the Italian Bond Yields have gone up steeply. It sounds scary, confusing and may be like good news. What actually happened was, who ever was holding the Italian Govt debt paper have dumped them below their face value. For example, a 1000 Lira 20 year 5% bond they have dumped for 600 Lira. So, when you extrapolate 5% yield of 1000 over 600, the yield is almost 9%. So, it looks like people sold gold not knowing what to do today. the matter of the fact is, italian debt paper is being dumped. This is a crazy opportunity if played well. But it could go either way. Someone like Soros, Buffett will make a few billion in a matter of weeks in this. Soros made a similar bet on on UK Bonds and became a billionaire. | ||
| Ustad Side Hero Username: Ustad Post Number: 5945 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 65.161.188.11 Rating: N/A |
Bhaiyya, next few weeks lo gold & USD up or down? | ||
| Scorpio Comedian Username: Scorpio Post Number: 1051 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 12.193.27.158 Rating: N/A |
Crazy!// No...reality. That's life... What they are doing is worse than prostitution... | ||
| Entikaburlu Side Hero Username: Entikaburlu Post Number: 2654 Registered: 07-2011 Posted From: 67.247.83.224 Rating: N/A |
Crazy! | ||
| Scorpio Comedian Username: Scorpio Post Number: 1049 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 12.193.27.158 Rating: N/A |
Western society lo recession untene, veellaki life value thelisedi... | ||
| Scorpio Comedian Username: Scorpio Post Number: 1048 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 12.193.27.158 Rating: N/A |
Parayi mathasthulni brathakanivvakunda chesedi main ga Italy & Rome people & Pope... Italy biting dust is good thing for us.. | ||
| Kuyyo_morro Side Hero Username: Kuyyo_morro Post Number: 4391 Registered: 02-2011 Posted From: 63.76.147.112 Rating: N/A |
BOFA nilabadtunda leka dobbesthada ee market lo. Warren Buffet invest chesaadu, but even then he too can make a bad call. | ||
| Entikaburlu Side Hero Username: Entikaburlu Post Number: 2652 Registered: 07-2011 Posted From: 67.247.83.224 Rating: N/A |
Except Goldman Sachs (about 0.7Bn), all major banks lost about 5-7 Bn in the Italian fiasco. this is the final nail for the US Banks I believe. | ||
| Entikaburlu Side Hero Username: Entikaburlu Post Number: 2651 Registered: 07-2011 Posted From: 67.247.83.224 Rating: N/A |
PIGS = potugal, italy, greece and spain | ||
| Thelegend Moderator Username: Thelegend Post Number: 7560 Registered: 04-2008 Rating: N/A |
Italy tarvata France antunnaru ga trend continue ayite | ||
| Entikaburlu Side Hero Username: Entikaburlu Post Number: 2649 Registered: 07-2011 Posted From: 67.247.83.224 Rating: N/A |
how many more frikking countries in EU? never seen anything like this before. in a separate development, GMCR down 40% after hours. MAKO survived, excellent results. Gold hanging in there. Silver stood its ground. |
