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Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 65089 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 47.20.210.44 Rating: N/A |
Baba goru..note this point.. | ||
Jai_ycp Hero Username: Jai_ycp Post Number: 13972 Registered: 04-2015 Posted From: 100.36.224.18 Rating: N/A |
one more good things for our kids https://reason.com/blog/2018/08/29/betsy-devos-title-ix-due- process-college obama govt maeri darunamga india lo 498A type lo law techaru. all girl has to do is make an allegation. you are screwed unless proven guilty. trump admin making the amends required.  | ||
Jai_ycp Hero Username: Jai_ycp Post Number: 13969 Registered: 04-2015 Posted From: 100.36.224.18 Rating: N/A |
you are not completely wrong. Still, anxiety over racial admissions rates is peaking as cash-crunched public universities increasingly favor high-paying out-of-state and foreign students at the expense of local applicants of every ethnicity. A 2014 bill that would have asked voters to consider restoring race as a factor in admissions to public California colleges and universities sparked multiple public protests and scathing editorials in Chinese newspapers. The bill, Senate Constitutional Amendment 5, was shelved last year. | ||
Jai_ycp Hero Username: Jai_ycp Post Number: 13968 Registered: 04-2015 Posted From: 100.36.224.18 Rating: N/A |
Holistic ante discrimination cheyyatame. criteria lo diversity pettatamu tappu ledhu. our kids will compete in any thing. reservations ikkada kooda modalu pedithe nasta poyedhi mana kids valla kids ee. thanks to reps we are fighting this madness. next time you vote a dem or think ofsupporting them, know that they are the ones taking away careers and jobs away from your offspring. | ||
Jai_ycp Hero Username: Jai_ycp Post Number: 13967 Registered: 04-2015 Posted From: 100.36.224.18 Rating: N/A |
see the statistics. personal factors anta. this is the area where they use to discriminate people. Harvard is being sued by an organization, Students for Fair Admission, representing Asian-Americans accusing it of discrimination in admissions. According to news reports, an internal unpublished Harvard analysis in 2013 indicated that 43% of admissions would have been Asians if admission had been based strictly on academic considerations alone, things like high school performance and scores on the SAT examination. In fact, only about one-half that proportion of Asians were admitted. The data seem to suggest that Harvard has an Asian quota of about 20% of its students, less than one-half the proportion attending Cal Tech, a school that bases admission almost exclusively on academic criteria. As Asians become an increasing proportion of the American population, the Asian share of Harvard students remains almost unchanged. Harvard says it also looks at extracurricular, athletic and “personal” characteristics and achievement, apparently implicitly concluding that Asians are deficient in these dimensions, especially athletics and “personal” factors. The latter factor is an almost wholly subjective one, where the biases of admissions officers can dominate. The data suggest that at Harvard, skin coloration is important, and that dark is “good” (unless the individual is of Asian origin, such as from India), while white is, if not “bad,” certainly less desirable. To me, that is racism. The suggestion that on average Asians are highly deficient in personal characteristics relative to others, especially blacks and Latinos but also even whites, is seemingly indefensible on any objective grounds. To quote the great baseball philosopher Yogi Berra, “It’s déjà vu all over again.” As Jerome Karabel has demonstrated, for decades Harvard had an unpublished Jewish quota, where Jews with superior academic records were denied admission because of alleged vaguely defined deficiencies, such as lack of leadership or character. Indeed, the rise of the SAT test as a requirement was partly an effort to reduce this invidious antisemitism by putting a major emphasis on objective measures of potential academic achievement. (Edward Blum, leading the Harvard lawsuit, is Jewish, and has personally felt the sting of discrimination.) Meanwhile, the University of Chicago has announced it is no longer requiring SAT scores of applicants, noting explicitly that it wants to increase minority student representation. The SAT is a good predictor of academic success and provides admissions offices with useful information. Chicago wants a more "holistic" approach. Holistic is a code word for "subjective," where admission officers under the gun to find more students from underrepresented minorities show them preference in admission. While a number of respectable schools have gone test optional, Chicago is the first of the truly prestigious schools to do so, and the expectation of some and fear of others (Asian Americans?) is that others will follow. | ||
Zuri Junior Artist Username: Zuri Post Number: 495 Registered: 12-2012 Posted From: 73.223.85.66 Rating: N/A |
https://www.google.com/amp/www.latimes.com/local/california/ la-me-adv-asian-race-tutoring-20150222-story.html%3foutputTy pe=amp Looks like some races get bonus points on their SAT scores, while Asians lose - does not sound fair to me to do this based on race, they should account for family income and other criteria. Besides clubbing all Asians together is unfair. | ||
Jai_ycp Hero Username: Jai_ycp Post Number: 13966 Registered: 04-2015 Posted From: 100.36.224.18 Rating: N/A |
antha peddha paragraph raasaru concept ardhamu kaledhu. Different backgrounds nunchi teeuskotamu veru (like sports, arts etc.) kaani same background nunchi vachina iddaru students ki okkalu oka score inkokkaliki oka score cut off chesi peekestunnaru. solution is not to turn away bright students but exapnd the pool to include others. by genetics, blacks have some skills, whites have some, mexican have some and indians some. will be there quota and diversity in sports and music industries for desi kids.  Maa community lone oka papa. ma vodi classmate. she wanted to go to GT school. she sacrificed so many playdates, fun to achieve what she thinks is her dream. she got 99% but she did not get admission. she felt so disappointed. her own class mates who got 75% got admission under race quota (masked under diversity claims). | ||
Jai_ycp Hero Username: Jai_ycp Post Number: 13965 Registered: 04-2015 Posted From: 100.36.224.18 Rating: N/A |
mana pillalaki eductaion debba kotti other skills lekha (like sports, marketing) loss avvaru. | ||
Jai_ycp Hero Username: Jai_ycp Post Number: 13964 Registered: 04-2015 Posted From: 100.36.224.18 Rating: N/A |
you mean that people with zeal to study should be punished because of thier parents. the problem is not including other criteria, but applying different standards for different students. this is like redistribution of wealth. | ||
Jai_ycp Hero Username: Jai_ycp Post Number: 13963 Registered: 04-2015 Posted From: 100.36.224.18 Rating: N/A |
what did obama DOJ do? Do you even know?  I wont credit my pee and poop to trump but my 401k, 529 increase definitely. | ||
Gsn1 Side Hero Username: Gsn1 Post Number: 5431 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 108.51.229.151 Rating: N/A |
TT ------------ mana desi poragaallaki, private schools, weekend math/chemistry tuitions, SAT/ACT tuitions, LOL couple of months ago, i attended an event here in Indy, organiszed by some indian association group, where 2 Stanford going students talked about their experiences at 4 years of their High school both sambar abcd kids okadi father chepthunnaadu ..... my son is very studious blah blah blah. we used to drop him at school in the morning, because shool bus takes long time as the bus picks our neighborhood kids first and also, if we drop in our car, the kid can wake up 15 minutes late and he can sleep that extra 15 minutes anta he went on to add ..... dont let the kids to do lawn mowe etc as it is waste of time and no use in college admissions dhevudaaa ------ SO TRUE. My wife hates living in Desi dominated communities due to competitiveness desi parents stress on their kids and I prefer living in desi communities due to fear of missing out on typical DESI FUN. But, I don't need to tell that my wife won and all along we lived in areas where there is almost NO DESI families (but it was not by plan, it happend like that due to our preference to be closer to work place). What ever you mentioned regarding DESI kids, it is SO TRUE. And I personally prefer college admission process of stressing on DIVERSITY and I have no complaints on the existing admission process. At the same time, I don't feel right that kids being punished for over achievement. | ||
Telugu_times Legend Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 53454 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 99.0.30.9 Rating: N/A |
you went through college admissions process already. you should know better than most of us, in this db
mana desi poragaallaki, private schools, weekend math/chemistry tuitions, SAT/ACT tuitions, LOL couple of months ago, i attended an event here in Indy, organiszed by some indian association group, where 2 Stanford going students talked about their experiences at 4 years of their High school both sambar abcd kids okadi father chepthunnaadu ..... my son is very studious blah blah blah. we used to drop him at school in the morning, because shool bus takes long time as the bus picks our neighborhood kids first and also, if we drop in our car, the kid can wake up 15 minutes late and he can sleep that extra 15 minutes anta he went on to add ..... dont let the kids to do lawn mowe etc as it is waste of time and no use in college admissions dhevudaaa CCDB - Caste Chemchas Discussion Baavi | ||
Mr_masi Junior Artist Username: Mr_masi Post Number: 604 Registered: 01-2011 Posted From: 68.179.152.223 Rating: N/A |
last night got the opportunity to be a part of his rally, what a charismatic person. His dialogues are oora mass..and dont care attitude on stage. Treat to watch him.. chinnappudu NTR sabha laku vellina kick vachhindi. | ||
Guriginja Legend Username: Guriginja Post Number: 39516 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 47.39.180.113 Rating: |
then emma batti pattinchesi....india lo lekka ne...sinthapandu , itikarayi podi yesi tominattu thomesi...somberullekka okka pani cheyaneekunda....dabbulu carlu, anni icchesi...score vacchindi iccheyandi ante...india lo bits lantivi even iit lu kuda nekesinatte ikkada kuda nakesthayi.....work experience anna sincere ga chesthara ante adhi kuda ledhu...fake resumes tho jobs kottinatte telisinodi daggara...yevaro okarni attukoni yekkado oka daggara volunteer chesthunnattu letters....malli danini gurthinchatam ledhu...ayipoyindi its all gone..next step will be grand entry of narayana and SC into America....kummiparesthar janalu...chetthantha harvard lo cherali....taggede ledhu...lol | ||
Gsn1 Side Hero Username: Gsn1 Post Number: 5430 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 108.51.229.151 Rating: N/A |
TT ---------- up Also, it is not discrimination. They have to balance. colleges nindaa desi and chinku kids tho nimpeyyadam not fair as well. on a different note .....mana desi gaalladhemundhi? no compassion, no responsibility, no part time work experience, nothing. chivaraakariki cook chesina food ni kooda own gaa plate lo pettukoni thinaleru ayya amma educated ayyundhi financial gaa stable gaa untay..., kids ki zero responsibility. evadikainaa grades osthai, not a big deal. several times, i have seen my son's friends working in restaurants and because of that, they dont have enough time and they dont take hard courses like APcourses. Mana desi poragaallemo luxury cars lo thiruguthuntaar ----------- I totally AGREE. That is why they have to put scores on each category (like working part time, their parents background, extra curricular activities etc.) and then do the admissions on TOTAL score. Setting different entry scores is NOT FAIR. | ||
Tombrady Legend Username: Tombrady Post Number: 60151 Registered: 05-2012 Posted From: 216.163.220.32 Rating: N/A |
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Pullarao Junior Artist Username: Pullarao Post Number: 758 Registered: 03-2017 Posted From: 66.73.205.16 Rating: N/A |
What about legacy admissions like our lokesu? Titter lo pettukodaniki tappa paniki ravatledu. Affirmative action admissions kanna mundu veetini teesthe betteremo. | ||
Rocketk2 Side Hero Username: Rocketk2 Post Number: 5680 Registered: 03-2014 Posted From: 107.77.70.90 Rating: N/A |
yes this is correct . Evaro oka student start chesina lawsuit. It took various forms The people that oppose affirmative action were trying to use and hijack this . The intent is not racial rather to ceate a little diversity in class room. Nobody seems to have an issue when people get admissions due to their capabilities in music or art . The intent there is also a diversified classroom. Equating this to quota needs more basis.. | ||
Rocketk2 Side Hero Username: Rocketk2 Post Number: 5679 Registered: 03-2014 Posted From: 107.77.70.90 Rating: |
what is the Intent of supporting this statement of interest!?? Asian Americans meedha Kari poye prema leka inke dhaina!?? How can you be so tonedeaf.. it shocking government would use the vehicle of equality to further their racial agenda!? I did not post in this yesterday because I was curious to hear from other. Ikkada kontha mandiki college going kids vunnaru kadha.. so was curious about their perspectives!! And also have to thread this topic carefully because the disappointment of hard working kid is very disheartening. So I don't want what I say misconstrued!! Asala affirmative action kindha enni Seats pothunnayo idea anna vundha ilanti comment chese mundhu. The heart of this case is not what is being discussed in this thread. Yes Asian Americans have a disadvantage as they are pooled under a similar group. It has more than race as a factor. Every thing us, Asian Americans , do is very college targeted. Drill into the exams and scores, on sport , one extra circular activity .. we almost cookie cutter the process. And there is nothing wrong with it. But universities that strive to bring diversity (racial is not the key), look for a class pool that brings different perspectives . The origins of this case is in 2015 filed under MA. Like Telugutimes said, universities are taking holistic approach. The attempt to get to diversified has nothing to do with the way quota's work in the reservation system we are used to !! The 5% admission rate is the difficulty for a kid getting in Harvard not affirmative action!! To create diversity , universities take a lot of measures. For ex, the MBA class tries to use diversified employment background. They encourage doctors, nonprofit orgs, press and other . The subjectivity introduced into admission have same intent!! Finally, this another measure by this government to create a cultural conflict.. The origins of this case is in 2015 filed under MA. .. they are just using this to further their agenda...Asian Americans meedha prema kadhu!! I am ok with the lawsuit but not in the way you presented it here!! naa uddesam this is not a winnable argument also because Harvard (pretty much all competitive colleges) have a very diversified admissions panel!! But it does create an awareness | ||
Redsox2009 Junior Artist Username: Redsox2009 Post Number: 183 Registered: 05-2014 Posted From: 170.131.1.13 Rating: |
Jai_Ycp If you want to give lots of credit to Trump then give the following also in this Triumph basket. This morning I went to Sh1t, thanks to Trump. Yesterday my pee is in WHITE color, thanks to Trump. If I remember correctly this issue(Harvard discriminating based on race) first came into limelight in 2015, Chinese students got impacted because of this discrimination. Not just race, universities discriminate based on region and family background. DOJ has to agree with students since there is no law that says only certain laws applicable to certain races. Harvard tried to argue saying Private org can accept with their own criteria, DOJ said acceptance criteria is unbiased to certain students particularly to Asian students aka Chinese students. | ||
Rgb Side Hero Username: Rgb Post Number: 5493 Registered: 06-2014 Posted From: 185.232.22.215 Rating: N/A |
While there is some truth, you are too harsh. I see all of the above being done by rich folks in our town - not the desis who are higher middle class in general But agreed that diversity is needed | ||
Telugu_times Legend Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 53448 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 99.0.30.9 Rating: N/A |
That is why, they take holistic approach in college admissions. CCDB - Caste Chemchas Discussion Baavi | ||
Telugu_times Legend Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 53447 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 99.0.30.9 Rating: |
Yup Also, it is not discrimination. They have to balance. colleges nindaa desi and chinku kids tho nimpeyyadam not fair as well. on a different note .....mana desi gaalladhemundhi? no compassion, no responsibility, no part time work experience, nothing. chivaraakariki cook chesina food ni kooda own gaa plate lo pettukoni thinaleru ayya amma educated ayyundhi financial gaa stable gaa untay..., kids ki zero responsibility. evadikainaa grades osthai, not a big deal. several times, i have seen my son's friends working in restaurants and because of that, they dont have enough time and they dont take hard courses like APcourses. Mana desi poragaallemo luxury cars lo thiruguthuntaar CCDB - Caste Chemchas Discussion Baavi | ||
Hadoop Hero Username: Hadoop Post Number: 10758 Registered: 12-2014 Posted From: 66.129.87.212 Rating: |
stop reading/watching cnn..you set  | ||
Biggboss Side Hero Username: Biggboss Post Number: 5012 Registered: 08-2017 Posted From: 45.62.177.6 Rating: N/A |
Oh thanks for correcting me, I got mislead... I should fix my news sources  | ||
Gsn1 Side Hero Username: Gsn1 Post Number: 5428 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 108.51.229.151 Rating: N/A |
Bigboss ---------- UC's anni last few years Asian's ki admission ki impossible chesindhi, more money kosam out of state students ki admission in the name of affirmative action ----------- This wrong info brother. It is true that they are accepting more out of state students for money, but that is nothing to do with the problem. The problem for Asian kids is their so called HIGH SCORE. Because of this, the unviersities are setting high cut off score for Asian students and lower cut off score for non-Asians, there by discriminating high achievers in the name of Affirmative action. | ||
Rgb Side Hero Username: Rgb Post Number: 5491 Registered: 06-2014 Posted From: 96.225.96.111 Rating: N/A |
UCs cannot admit by race by CA law - so your information is incorrect. They are indeed admitting more OOS students but its not by race | ||
Biggboss Side Hero Username: Biggboss Post Number: 5009 Registered: 08-2017 Posted From: 45.62.177.6 Rating: N/A |
Trump or Obama I agree with what DOJ is doing...UC's anni last few years Asian's ki admission ki impossible chesindhi, more money kosam out of state students ki admission in the name of affirmative action deenemma local kids ki preference ivvakunda affirmative action peru tho kudipesthunnaru high time they fix this, diversity peru tho denka pettesthunnaru asian kids ni | ||
Scorpio Megastar Username: Scorpio Post Number: 20526 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 73.83.15.106 Rating: N/A |
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/impression-that-well-insulat e-india-no-matter-what-is-misleading-us-on-india-russia-defe nce-deal-1908794?pfrom=home-topstories Nagarjuna Sagar...SriSailam...Polavaram...Handri-Neeva...SomaSila...ThotaPalli...VeliGonda...PuliChintala..etc | ||
Gsn1 Side Hero Username: Gsn1 Post Number: 5427 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 108.51.229.151 Rating: |
I agree with the lawsuit and commend federal government joining the suit. | ||
Jai_ycp Hero Username: Jai_ycp Post Number: 13955 Registered: 04-2015 Posted From: 72.83.14.99 Rating: N/A |
ee sari maa county lo 98% score chesina kids ki kuda GT lo seat raledhu. kids get so disappointed after working so hard. | ||
Gotcha Legend Username: Gotcha Post Number: 31507 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 73.45.2.79 Rating: N/A |
Kummu Trump kummu ... | ||
Aggipidugu116 Side Hero Username: Aggipidugu116 Post Number: 4515 Registered: 07-2014 Posted From: 71.179.21.5 Rating: N/A |
Kummu president kummu.. | ||
Emc2 Legend Username: Emc2 Post Number: 70792 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 71.127.33.124 Rating: N/A |
This is required Like sc st quota denemma ikkada another type of quota It's ok | ||
Airliner Side Hero Username: Airliner Post Number: 5269 Registered: 11-2011 Posted From: 99.247.81.156 Rating: |
Monna kada not happy with DOJ annadu ..idi tuglak gadi account lo vesesava.. Good job Jeff Sessions.. If you love it, you'll teach yourself. If you don't, others teach you. | ||
Jai_ycp Hero Username: Jai_ycp Post Number: 13953 Registered: 04-2015 Posted From: 72.83.14.99 Rating: |
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2018/08/30/us/p olitics/asian-students-affirmative-action-harvard.amp.html Mana pillalu future bagundali ante ee case win avvali. Trump admin is supporting us. Aina manamu mataku trump racist antoo votes veyamu. Asian Americans specially Indian American needs are different from black, Mexican and muslim Needs. Manamu dems ki support isthe idhe minority groups tokkestharu. Neeku votes veyyakpoina nyayam vaipu nilabaddavj |
