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Sannayi_nokkulu
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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 09:55 pm:       


sachipotava , avineethi ga batukutava okkate option ante alochinchakunda chachipotaa ane type cbn - OT
 

Pullarao
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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 09:31 pm:       

 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 08:45 pm:       


Ideal_brain:

With spaghetti code you just make notes and work on it multiple times..




yee mukka strike avvaka....
konni years together career yetu pothondo teliyaka...
friends ki correct gaa explain cheskoleka...

14 years industry. Oh my dikkumaalina jeevithaa...
mirror lo chooskuntu banda boothulu tittukuni vummeskunna ravi teja scene yeskondi...
"Chill Bro.
I told you to let it go!!"
- The Budhha.
 

Ideal_brain
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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 08:23 pm:       

With spaghetti code you just make notes and work on it multiple times.. once you get the catch you should not reveal it to others..
 

Jambalahaart_raja
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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 05:01 pm:       


Mahiz:

care to explain.



server load yekkuvayyi, scale avvaka, kukka bommalu chooyinchaad Prime Day mottam.
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I told you to let it go!!"
- The Budhha.
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 04:51 pm:       


Pullarao:

beautiful modular code, extensibility, simplicity gone to dogs.




Pullarao:

Idaithe highlight..






vankul, what a shame to shame ofinion. what a shame to shame observation. what a shame to shame pinch.

Vankul, from today, you are my newest BFF FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF!!!!!

nenedo gulaabi mokkaki antu kattinattu, yedo goda kattinattu... chaalaa sradhhagaa, padhhati gaa quality code raasthaanu ani kaadu...
basically naa code naake nachhadu. Quality parangaa max try chesthaa kaani, antha super dev skills naaki bhi levv.
but, basic guidelines follow avvataaniki maximum try chesthaa...

oka 20 lines of absurd if-else if-else block, oka 4 levels deep for and/or while loops, ilaantivi code-reviews lo kanapadithey, vollanthaa tellu jerrulu paakinattu vuntadi....

yekkadaina inappropriate class, method, yekkadaina new keyword kanapadithey chachhipovaali anipisthaa vuntadi...

still maximum, debugger lo end-to-end flow without much complications choodagalanu anukunte code ki pass marks meeda grace marks ichhesthaa..

ivvala morning 4 hours time pattindi, oka issue, resolve sesaa anukuntunnaa but resolve avvaledu. inkekkado flow lo same issue tanthondi, debugger pattukotamle.
14 years kashtapadi develop cheskunna skills meeda confidence pothadi...
"Chill Bro.
I told you to let it go!!"
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Pullarao
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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 04:18 pm:       

Not only technical debt or high level design, even object design, coding skills as well..
There are numerous engineers who dont what are SOLID principles, what is mutability, public, private, abstraction, polymorphism, pinda koodu..! algorithm batti kottama , youtube lo system design tiragesama leda, amzn and in lo job kottama leda..

beautiful modular code, extensibility, simplicity gone to dogs.


Jambalahaart_raja:

Prime Day




Idaithe highlight.. db lang lo cheppalante.. cheppevi sreeranga neethulu.. duredi lol!
 

Mahiz
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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 04:05 pm:       


Jambalahaart_raja:

Prime Day Amazon's disaster is a different discussion altogether.




care to explain.
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Jambalahaart_raja
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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 04:00 pm:       


Pullarao:

technical debt



Vankul, meeru Scalability aspect okkate focus chesthunnaaru, if you re-read your posts.

Scalability solve cheyataaniki microservices connected with pub-sub systems in a N-Tier Org-Infrastructure, of course Silicon Valley anthaa chesi chooyinchaaru for a day-to-day usage - MS, Affle, LInkedIn, Google, NFLX, you name it. Prime Day Amazon's disaster is a different discussion altogether.

Meeru Org-Infrastructure gurinchi fume ayithunnaar, nenu UI-Tier okkati ittaa sanka naakisthey mari data display update choodataaniki 6 seconds enduku pattadu ani hurt ayithannaa....
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Pullarao
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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 03:44 pm:       

DDD vachinde deenivalla.. there aren’t good engineers who can design complex components.
Monoliths are failing.. are not good enough to keep up with competition. time ledu janala deggara to fix technical debt.

ruthless ga bounderies esi microservices are silverbullet ani kotha punthalu tokkuthunnaru.
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 03:40 pm:       


Speaker:

learn n earn...never fix...



Business / Project Manager ki naaku question chesthey, naaki deggara answer vundaali, kaneesam yekkada dolaadaali ayinaa naaki telsi vundaali hain.

Duct-tape patch fixes toney projects ni prod loki push chesthuntaam. yedo okati work ayithe chaalu annattu.

addadiddangaa haphazard gaa object associations and method invocations toh code-base itself is domain knowledge type projects lo as a new-joinee, cheekatam kaakundaa dignified gaa Seniority skills ni nammukuni yelaa handle cheyochhu??

Every project wants to hire senior level skills with junior level pay. What is Senior Level skills? Somebody who know how to clean their own s**t. Somebody who you don't want to hold their hand and show them the way.

This is a very sensitive issue. People become extremely defensive, ye konchem sound chesinaa, escalate chesinaa. New-joinee credibility will be questioned very brutally by other Devs who have been with the team and have made a mess of the code-base, and Managers will always take their side. Devs either believe their code is ugly, or best program ever by anyone despite poor quality that is passable.
"Chill Bro.
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- The Budhha.
 

Pullarao
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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 03:31 pm:       

Senior Software engineer antadu.. ex employer IBM antadu.. design patterns telavadu, UML ante telvadu.. em peekavura mari nee professional life motham?

ignorance is bliss ani urake analedu peddalu.
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 02:34 pm:       


Ferrari:




btw..ivvala breakfast meeda thaadu veyyaledu..kaneesam lunch meeda anna veyyi :D
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 02:30 pm:       


Jambalahaart_raja:

How to survive, if the problem persists?




idemi silly question...

they only need bcoz there r froblems...

if there r no froblems why do they need us...

the very froblems give us bread n butter...

never fix the froblem...just let the froblem subside partly n should be moved to the front burner like when our ccdb admin does it...

learn n earn...never fix...

froblems hi froblems hamaara roti rojgaari haaaaaaaaaaaaaaai............
You are Either with Us or NOT with Us..
My Way or Highway.......
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 02:25 pm:       


Jambalahaart_raja:

Good Programmers need not necessarily be good Engineers.
Good Program Designers / Project Architects definitely need to be good Engineers.

Why are many good practices and standards and guidelines always taken for granted?
What is the point in learning Design Patterns?
Why are Object Chaining and Object Associations always haphazard? This is particularly with regards to OOPs.
What is the point of Functional Programming, if every Business Delegate Manager object is everywhere in each and every other Business Manager object?

I am a Senior Engineer. Every time I click a button in the Android App, I try and follow the code-base flow in the debugger to a OTA network invocation, receive a response, and thereafter update the UI with additional data or appropriate navigation to a different page / screen.

4 weeks ayithondi in new project, tala toka ardham ayithaledu. already 2 hours code-walkthrough sessions cheyinchukunna Lead / Principal Engineer toni. I have occassionally been lost in the code-base flow in some of the previous projects, and things certainly did not go so well.
How to survive, if the problem persists?




I feel you brah
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 02:04 pm:       


Jambalahaart_raja:

Business Stakeholders and Sales Teams ki IT implementation Teams are already Corporate Slaves.




idi matram correct ..banks lo eppati nuncho jaruguthundi gaa..

meme meeku budget ichedi..meeru enti raa rollout schedule seppedi..maaki repe kaavali ..isthara..sastara antar..em chestham..khandistham
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 02:02 pm:       


Jambalahaart_raja:


Long term survival ki inkem cheyaali??



srry thamudu ..i cant fill your shoes :D to understand the problem...
be a buziness /domain telisthe product owner...
next managment...
coding clean and pandu valichinatlu ledante....poor standards..
architect tech manager aithe ilanti issues raavu emo ani naa yokkka idi

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 02:01 pm:       


Rajusk:

idi matram true..



Vankul, 5 years from now...
Director level role lo vundandi, or daani amma-babu role lo vundandi..
farak nahin...

roll your cuffs and fix a critical bug 2 hours before scheduled release at 2:00 AM with CI/CD auto sign-off from Build Server will be the future norm.
Business Stakeholders and Sales Teams ki IT implementation Teams are already Corporate Slaves.
Developer ni On-call lo koorchopedthaa, QA Director on-call lo QA sign-off ippisthaadu. If that critical bug will penetrate Prod and cause a couple thousands of monetary loss to the org, QA ni blame cheddaam le, type attitude no longer pani cheyadu.

Rest spaghetti code lo tomato-functional-programming broth.
"Chill Bro.
I told you to let it go!!"
- The Budhha.
 

Rajusk
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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 01:30 pm:       


Ferrari:

..thed motham chadivaka assalu nenu chesedho software udyogamena kaadha ani oka minute anukovalsi vastadhi..




idi matram true..
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 01:26 pm:       

ee Jambhal thammud thed open chedham antene bhayam aitadhi..thed motham chadivaka assalu nenu chesedho software udyogamena kaadha ani oka minute anukovalsi vastadhi..
******
avuju kurrod 2 advacned technolgies septadu naa jevam meeda virakthi D self immolate seukovali anipistundi with abrbatic torture
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 01:07 pm:       


Ferrari:

ee Jambhal thammud thed open chedham antene bhayam aitadhi..thed motham chadivaka assalu nenu chesedho software udyogamena kaadha ani oka minute anukovalsi vastadhi..

sare edho spaghetti noodles ani thed esthe thindi meedha thed anukunna..ammathodu..aa 1st post okka mukka ardham aithe na bata seppu meedha ottu..




nen na life lo jambal kurrod tho okkasaraina pani cheyalani anukuntunna .. jambal team member and platy as a team leader
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 01:03 pm:       


Jambalahaart_raja:

How to survive, if the problem persists?


 

Ferrari
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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 12:45 pm:       

ee Jambhal thammud thed open chedham antene bhayam aitadhi..thed motham chadivaka assalu nenu chesedho software udyogamena kaadha ani oka minute anukovalsi vastadhi..

sare edho spaghetti noodles ani thed esthe thindi meedha thed anukunna..ammathodu..aa 1st post okka mukka ardham aithe na bata seppu meedha ottu..
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 12:36 pm:       


Miniontada:

be a scum master simpilu



simpul sarey, please elaborate...

One fine morning nidra lechi, If I decide I want to be scrum master in my next project, what should I do?
Change my resume, fake all the scrum master experience?
And then what??
Long term survival ki inkem cheyaali??
"Chill Bro.
I told you to let it go!!"
- The Budhha.
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 12:31 pm:       


Jambalahaart_raja:

How to survive, if the problem persists?




be a scum master simpilu ...

Laksha Kotla Jagan Heritage
PS: Appatlo Methanithodugu aka softwear
 

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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 12:25 pm:       

Good Programmers need not necessarily be good Engineers.
Good Program Designers / Project Architects definitely need to be good Engineers.

Why are many good practices and standards and guidelines always taken for granted?
What is the point in learning Design Patterns?
Why are Object Chaining and Object Associations always haphazard? This is particularly with regards to OOPs.
What is the point of Functional Programming, if every Business Delegate Manager object is everywhere in each and every other Business Manager object?

I am a Senior Engineer. Every time I click a button in the Android App, I try and follow the code-base flow in the debugger to a OTA network invocation, receive a response, and thereafter update the UI with additional data or appropriate navigation to a different page / screen.

4 weeks ayithondi in new project, tala toka ardham ayithaledu. already 2 hours code-walkthrough sessions cheyinchukunna Lead / Principal Engineer toni. I have occassionally been lost in the code-base flow in some of the previous projects, and things certainly did not go so well.
How to survive, if the problem persists?
"Chill Bro.
I told you to let it go!!"
- The Budhha.

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