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Posted on Tuesday, February 13, 2018 - 10:30 am:       


Anand_n:

Ishan - my apologies - I never got round to getting a high res picture of the painting taken to send to you


Oh thats fine...send it to me at your convenience. It will make a beautiful wall painting in our puja room for sure. You might want to share it in this DB, I am sure you will get a good feedback.
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Posted on Monday, February 12, 2018 - 09:26 pm:       


Rajusk:




I’ve visited a good number of those places :-) though still quite a few to go... and though Madurai is not listed there I had a great engineering tour of the temple given by my boss...!

The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim
 

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Posted on Monday, February 12, 2018 - 08:51 pm:       


Anand_n:

Thank you for the reco! Watched a couple episodes - really good work !




I watched some episodes and repeat watched them kids..

It is a must see for all those are not like Bharateeyudu kurrod..who travels across India..
 

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Posted on Monday, February 12, 2018 - 08:36 pm:       


Chiru_fan:


please watch life of Buddha in BBC u can watch in utube
sachipotava , avineethi ga batukutava okkate option ante alochinchakunda chachipotaa ane type cbn - OT
 

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Posted on Monday, February 12, 2018 - 08:29 pm:       


Rajusk:

Sanrachna Netflix episodes




Thank you for the reco! Watched a couple episodes - really good work !

The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim
 

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Posted on Monday, February 12, 2018 - 02:51 pm:       

Another point on becoming a sanyasi, as per Hindu tradition, to enter the Sanyasa-Ashrama one has to complete Gruhasta-Ashrama. Adi Shankaracharya violated this rule. But he got a boon from Lord Shiva. The second point is, one has to take the permission from wife and should not have dependent children. In this regard, Buddha violated the second rule. (Not sure if Rahul is a dependent son at that time).
కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను!
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Posted on Monday, February 12, 2018 - 02:45 pm:       

Buddha is not the loser, but the Sramanas, anti-Brahmins are the most prominent losers. Some theories tell Buddha as a supporter of Yagnas/Agnihotra and Brahmins. But, the so-called iconoclast group label Buddhism to the contrary. Even Ashoka was Hindu more so a strong supporter of Brahminism. His stone carvings in today's Pakistan prove this.

Buddha is an incarnation of Vishnu and never any Hindu rituals or practices. Bali does not necessarily mean killing animal though it is also a part of it. There are several non-animal Balis.

It is very funny when people say Buddha introduced kumkuma; we had this tradition since time immemorial.
కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను!
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Posted on Monday, February 12, 2018 - 01:30 pm:       


Anand_n:




If possible Netflix lo Sanrachna Netflix episodes choodandi

they have covered lot of temples with good info
 

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Posted on Monday, February 12, 2018 - 12:41 pm:       


Musicfan:

Does this serial know how did Yashodhara take, what she did after Budha left, how she lead her life afterwards, What she did when Budha came to palace again, what happened to her after??




per history - yashodara, rahuludu - also joined Buddhist sangham.. rahula became arihant
 

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Posted on Monday, February 12, 2018 - 12:36 pm:       

bottomline ettandi waiting chesthunna
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Posted on Monday, February 12, 2018 - 12:27 pm:       


Mental_sachinodu:




Patience ledu so generally staying away .. was listening to an Arsha Vidya discourse on Daksinamurty stotram where he was talking about all the great things Buddhism introduced to the vedantic thought and then saw this thread titl -so got drawn in :-)


Raman:



Found the poem and read it - always enjoy reading poetry - thank you ! :-)

The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim
 

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Posted on Monday, February 12, 2018 - 12:12 pm:       


Abhysg:

Mantralayam Raghavendra Swamy, yogi vemana, adi Shankara Ila andaroo gnana samuparjana tadwara samajanni udharinchadaniki Tama personal lives hi sacrifice chesar..





swarry.. veellu thamani vuddarinchukovataniki samajanni thyagam chesthey.. thamani vuddarinchamani samajam veella ventapadindi..

buddhudini - after he left.. evaru pattinchukoka pothey.. aayana gnanam ayana pondi aayana moksham ayana pondevaadu.. janalu followed
 

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Posted on Monday, February 12, 2018 - 12:08 pm:       


Shikari:


yashodhara gogle search on poetry english lo dorakaledu

anand garidi hindi world schooling antha mari
 

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Posted on Monday, February 12, 2018 - 12:05 pm:       


Raman:


aakariki wikipedia kuda hindi yena?
http://i.imgur.com/eUYcc.gif
 

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Posted on Monday, February 12, 2018 - 12:03 pm:       


Anand_n:

Ala ardhamainda? That was not the intent.. I just wanted to point out the error in the statement that they knew the result of their path , that they were going to be able to uplift society when they started that pursuit




I think i got what you meant, but my post was not very clear.

when I said, you have not changed, you still post with the same patience and objectivity :D. I dont think I do anymore. most of the time, I troll here :D

and yes agree with your statement, and i do believe without the pursuit of finding answers to their "own" problems, they might not have succeeded.
 

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Posted on Monday, February 12, 2018 - 12:00 pm:       


Anand_n:


https://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%B6%E0%A5%8B%E0 %A4%A7%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%BE_(%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B5%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AF)

I think muppalla rangaayakamma ramayana vishavruksham lo urmila char inspired from yashodhara ani naa anumanam
 

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Posted on Monday, February 12, 2018 - 11:57 am:       


Raman:




Don’t think we had it in my time ..don’t remember studying it!

The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim
 

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Posted on Monday, February 12, 2018 - 11:52 am:       


Mental_sachinodu:

you havent changed a bit over the years .. lol ..
kaami kaani vaadu moksha kaami kaadu...in a gist




Ala ardhamainda? That was not the intent.. I just wanted to point out the error in the statement that they knew the result of their path , that they were going to be able to uplift society when they started that pursuit :-)

Ishan - my apologies - I never got round to getting a high res picture of the painting taken to send to you

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Posted on Monday, February 12, 2018 - 11:35 am:       

same definition prakaram, Jesus Christ kooda loser ye kada?
 

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Posted on Monday, February 12, 2018 - 11:14 am:       


Anand_n:

Aa subject heading is really bad !


btw yashodhara ka virah ani mythili sharan gupth poetry okati undali chinnappudu 8th lono 9th lono lesseon undindi chadivara?
 

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Posted on Monday, February 12, 2018 - 11:08 am:       


Chiru_fan:

he left everyone in pain and went to find answers for his questions....antha gaa vuntee mundee vellipooyee vaadu....


Samsara is not for everyone bro, and there is no way to know that beforehand. Buddha's childhood was mostly spent inside the four walls of aristocracy and thus his exposure to outside was limited. He learnt about society and it's sufferings only later after marriage...he couldn't stand it. DO you think his wife and children would be happy if she continued to live with them despite he doesn't like worldly attachments? It would have caused worse pain to them. Samsara is not an end goal, but means to reach it.
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Posted on Monday, February 12, 2018 - 08:20 am:       


Anand_n:

Just wanted to correct this assumption - none of these people or any others who go on spiritual pursuit go with that intention of social upliftment.. Valla personal quest kosam sacrifice (?) chesi vellaru ..: after achieving that goal and knowledge they came back to spread it ...

An apt analogy would be a Premji or gates giving back to society after reaching the summit of their quest !

For every Buddha or Ramana maharshi that became famous teachers there are thousands of sanyasis who leave on the same quest and people do not hear from or about !

But to start with their quest was only for themselves ... is it right or wrong anedi depends on where you are standing !



anand garu,
you havent changed a bit over the years .. lol ..

kaami kaani vaadu moksha kaami kaadu...in a gist
 

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Posted on Sunday, February 11, 2018 - 11:43 pm:       

Thread title too bad too worst.

Hinduism is not about Gods and Cosmic Power. It is a science of social living. Dharma, Karma and Rebirth. Every living thing has a Duty. The Actions should follow the Duty. Any Actions outside of the Duty are apparently Punishable, and therefore, there exists this Human-life, that is meant to Suffer the wrath of Bad Karma. Easy micro strategy for micro-managing division of labor amongst a tribe. Spread the word, bring in more tribes, cities, kingdoms and empires are alive solely based on the doctrine of Dharma.

Buddhism questioned this very explanation of Suffering in a Human-life form, based of Dharma, Karma and Rebirth. The philosophy of Agnosticism was thus born. Everything is make-believe, There are no Dharma, Karma, BS stuff. Desire, and not Dharma, is the cause for Suffering. Such a profound yet simple explanation. Do what you like, just common-sense not to destroy other living beings. If Hinduism was Communism, Buddhism was Socialism.

Although Hinduism's core idea was terribly shaken, Buddhism never intended a huge threat. Buddhism gained traction and popularity much later after Asoka embraced it, and redefined his personality as a Peaceful Emperor, despite having waged the most brutal war in the history of India against Kalinga as a Hindu Emperor.

Also, Jainism was born much earlier than Buddhism, and much later than Hinduism, however, Jainism never questioned Hinduism's core doctrines of Dharma. Hinduism did feel threatened by Buddhism's answers to unexplainable questionable teachings surrounding Karma, Rebirths and Suffering. However, pretty soon Hinduism remained peaceful, and all Religions born in India coexisted, unlike Abrahamic Religions born much later in Israel.

TLDR;
In today's western context, Buddha probably suffered Social Anxiety, Depression, Schizophrenia, Vitamin B12 and D3 deficiencies etc, but he certainly was not a Loser, nor Selfish. He only went on a noble pursuit outside the doctrines of his Hindu-Dharma, as a Husband, Father, Son, Prince etc etc, and peacefully redefined Hinduism itself. We know cow, goat and camel milk is OK, but cats and dogs and even horses is not OK because somebody in history would have certainly died and their close associates may have recorded the findings. Some sacrifices in history is why Carl Sagan could have described our planet as the Pale Blue Dot, and Elon Musk hurled his Tesla Roadster toward Mars' orbit.
"Chill Bro.
I told you to let it go!!"
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Posted on Sunday, February 11, 2018 - 05:27 pm:       

Aa subject heading is really bad !


Abhysg:

Mantralayam Raghavendra Swamy, yogi vemana, adi Shankara Ila andaroo gnana samuparjana tadwara samajanni udharinchadaniki Tama personal lives hi sacrifice chesar..




Just wanted to correct this assumption - none of these people or any others who go on spiritual pursuit go with that intention of social upliftment.. Valla personal quest kosam sacrifice (?) chesi vellaru ..: after achieving that goal and knowledge they came back to spread it ...

An apt analogy would be a Premji or gates giving back to society after reaching the summit of their quest !

For every Buddha or Ramana maharshi that became famous teachers there are thousands of sanyasis who leave on the same quest and people do not hear from or about !

But to start with their quest was only for themselves ... is it right or wrong anedi depends on where you are standing !

The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim
 

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Posted on Sunday, February 11, 2018 - 04:55 pm:       

Fat loss type lo whatever he “lost†is good riddance
 

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Posted on Sunday, February 11, 2018 - 03:47 pm:       


Chiru_fan:

Netflix loo series soosthee avunu anipisthaavundi....chinnappatinundi confused soul....ishtamaina marriage chesukoni...pilladu puttina tharuvaatha... he left everyone in pain and went to find answers for his questions....antha gaa vuntee mundee vellipooyee vaadu.... nizam gaa anthe noo leka manoollu masala add chesaaroo kaani....he looks like he was a looser




its a perspective isnt it. Buddha's family members' pain is their own, its not his attachment. from Buddhism's perspective, they are the source of their own suffering and pain, so they are the losers.. so is anyone else who "suffer"
 

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Posted on Sunday, February 11, 2018 - 01:58 pm:       


Gsn1:

Most of the places where Buddhism flourished were regions where Hinduism was practiced before Buddhism and it simply replaced Hinduism.


 

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Posted on Sunday, February 11, 2018 - 01:53 pm:       


Jp_rocks:

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*****
 

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Posted on Sunday, February 11, 2018 - 12:05 pm:       


Aristotle:

MD Thamman kummestunnaru antunnaru




songs kante he was talked about BGM for that movie, but songs are ok'''ish anukonta.. Chalo lo 2 songs bagunnayi, Intelligent aithe songs kooda bagolevu
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Posted on Sunday, February 11, 2018 - 12:05 pm:       


Musicfan:




its ok
 

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Posted on Sunday, February 11, 2018 - 12:04 pm:       


Aristotle:

sir, recent films Tholiprema audio levu anukunta..any reason




Reason emi ledu, earlier days laaga movie album ratam ledu oke saari, initial gaa they are releasing one or 2 and then pre-release event lantidi conduct chesi mottam vastondi..

tracking has been difficult with daily work routines..

Okkasari peak time lo review miss aithe no one would really look at it..

I need to change my strategy too.. Will come up with one..
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Posted on Sunday, February 11, 2018 - 12:02 pm:       

read it as Tholiprema audio review...

MD Thamman kummestunnaru antunnaru
 

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Posted on Sunday, February 11, 2018 - 12:01 pm:       


Musicfan:




sir, recent films Tholiprema audio levu anukunta..any reason
 

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Posted on Sunday, February 11, 2018 - 11:58 am:       


Chiru_fan:




First of all what is meant by Loser??

Ishtamaina marraige ante evariki only Siddartha or Yasodhara??

If leaving after birth of child is wrong then when would be the right time??

He left everyone in pain ante evarini? His wife , his son, his parents, who??

Does this serial know how did Yashodhara take, what she did after Budha left, how she lead her life afterwards, What she did when Budha came to palace again, what happened to her after??

Do you know what are customary rules those days, do you know when they got married??

Now look back after answering these questions and reanalyze the term Loser, you will find answers..
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Posted on Sunday, February 11, 2018 - 08:53 am:       

Masularex

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it could have been a proper productive n stimulating discussion if not for one offensive word... the word "loser"
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PERFECTLY SAID.
 

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Posted on Sunday, February 11, 2018 - 07:57 am:       

If Buddha is a looser...
Looser is Winner N its Buddha...
All others r winners who r actually loosers N the real winner is MIGHTY BUDDHA!!!
Namo Buddham Saranam Gacchaami
Namo Dharmam Saranam Gacchaami
Namo Sangham Saranam Gacchaami
 

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Posted on Sunday, February 11, 2018 - 07:50 am:       

it could have been a proper productive n stimulating discussion if not for one offensive word... the word "loser" has riled up many normal folks....

who is a loser and who is not a loser... is there any clear cut differentiation ?

honorable sir, please do define...
 

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Posted on Sunday, February 11, 2018 - 03:35 am:       


Chiru_fan:

he tortured his loved ones more....imagine leaving his wife and months old baby....parents who thought that he would rule the kingdom.... his father was in agreement with making deals in a peaceful manner....but still he left everyone....




seeing buddhism through the western lens is a foolish thing to do
 

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Posted on Sunday, February 11, 2018 - 02:51 am:       

Mantralayam Raghavendra Swamy, yogi vemana, adi Shankara Ila andaroo gnana samuparjana tadwara samajanni udharinchadaniki Tama personal lives hi sacrifice chesar.. oka pedda cause mundu personal lives pedda vishayam kadu...Idi andaroo cheyyaleru..anduke vallu goppollu ayyar
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Posted on Sunday, February 11, 2018 - 12:49 am:       


Sasibabu:

the best soul who has walked on this planet earth




I wish I had a satsang with him...


You do one more Mumbai, you lose Balochistan - NSA Ajit Doval
 

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Posted on Sunday, February 11, 2018 - 12:38 am:       


Maverick:

maree anta ledu le..self torture to attain gnanam for himself is no big deal..who helps others is a much better soul always.


akkade undi budhuni greatness self torture tho gnanam ledu aame evaro pettina paramannamlone anandam undi ani grahinchadu .. food for thoght ane concept aadaninche vachindi
 

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Posted on Sunday, February 11, 2018 - 12:17 am:       


Maverick:

self torture to attain gnanam for himself is no big deal..who helps others is a much better soul always.




same feeling. One should help others
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 09:52 pm:       


Giant:



Giant:

Rama insecure loser? Krishna pervert? Lol.. Valid questions


why drag hinduism into this ..manadi already worst ani decide chesaru kada db lo anekasarlu ..


ikapothe budha story nijamga jarigindi pramanalu unnai ...

budha story vs shankaracharya .. left his mother at an early age toured all over .. ante adi tappu antara ? tallidaggara undi sariga chuskovalsindi kada ani kooda anochu ..
 

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Rama insecure loser? Krishna pervert? Lol.. Valid questions
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 08:16 pm:       

Buddha loser poddasthamanam DB lo kukunte prapanchikam lo andharu losers lage kanapadhar ani Veeramachineni ippude TV9 lo cheppadu
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 07:29 pm:       


Jp_rocks:


that's what I said... our guys didn't believe that god can be within us... if they have to accept him as god then they have to throw all existing gods under the bus... so it was not practical then and not practical even today
Don't say you don't have enough time. You have exactly the same number of hours per day that were given to Helen Keller, Pasteur, Michaelangelo, Mother Teresea, Leonardo da Vinci, Thomas Jefferson, and Albert Einstein
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 07:28 pm:       


Mrhyderabad:

Even today most of Hindu followers miss the essence of Hinduism and just focus on idol worship and rituals


emuntundi bro essence? idol worship and rituals are easy.....getting to the essence of any religion is difficult..

anyway there may be people who know the essence of hinduism, whatever that is, and also practice idol worship / associated rituals..
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 07:23 pm:       


Mrhyderabad:

He started his journey because his current religion didn't solve or answer his questions... so he came up with his own philosophy which is against rituals and yagnas etc. He suggested focusing and looking inward within rather than looking outward for god... so that is totaly opp of Hinduism philosophy


bro i know that..buddha didn't have to "insert" himself as a god into hinduism..that's not at all the point..

my reflection was - why didn't hinduism make him a god....does it say anything about the contest between the two ideologies?

everyone knows he rebelled against the prevailing hindu ideologies..that is entirely besides the point of why he didn't end up as a god in hinduism..

emundi buddhudi nagna vigrahanni petti mana devude anundachu ga mana vallu? enduku analedu ani....
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 07:19 pm:       


Jp_rocks:

buddhudu mana sava laksha devullalo okadu enduku avaledu?


you are missing the basic bro... He started his journey because his current religion didn't solve or answer his questions... so he came up with his own philosophy which is against rituals and yagnas etc. He suggested focusing and looking inward within rather than looking outward for god... so that is totaly opp of Hinduism philosophy

Even today most of Hindu followers miss the essence of Hinduism and just focus on idol worship and rituals

Most of our texts clearly say that god is within us and manava seva Madhava seva... but majority don't follow that... people treat others like shit all the time but still pray to god in picture or rock
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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 07:12 pm:       


Maverick:

person himself said that before getting into the relationship


laksha cheptam, anni chestama? nuvvu chinnappudu prayer lo "PLEDGE" cheppavu ga - bharata desam na matru bhumi etc etc..cut cheste passport shred chesav...chestu chestu paiga dabbulu kharchu ainanduku feel ayyav

sorry a bit under the belt but what i am really getting at is - nobody is obligated to walk his talk.....times change, people change, opinions change - we cannot hold someone accountable for what they said
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 07:08 pm:       

Here's what I find REALLY interesting in this whole buddhist history - was there really a contest between the two religions? was one out-competed or out-maneuvered by the other?

Hinduism grew by inclusion...by literally "acquiring" / "claiming" local cults or tribal Gods..just like corporations acquiring other corporations..that's why there are many unlikely Gods in hinduism like our recent Shirdi Sai and thalupulamma thalli / mavullamma thalli / peddintlamma thalli whatever thalli / ammoru not related to primary Gods....

anyway, why didn't Buddha become a God within Hinduism? this may be because buddhism was quickly accepted as an independent religion because of anti incumbency and/or because there was a prolonged contest between the two religions that prevented hinduism from forcibly taking over buddhism..

buddhudu mana sava laksha devullalo okadu enduku avaledu?
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 06:20 pm:       

Jai_Ycp

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Buddhism survived outside India but not Hinduism.
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Most of the places where Buddhism flourished were regions where Hinduism was practiced before Buddhism and it simply replaced Hinduism.
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 06:12 pm:       


Jp_rocks:

says who?


person himself said that before getting into the relationship
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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 06:10 pm:       

Buddhism survived outside India but not Hinduism. That summarizes the effect of Buddha ideology and spiritual journey.
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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 06:06 pm:       


Maverick:

if u get.into a.relatioj..its ur moral.responsibility


says who? marriage or a committed relationship history tiskunte probably a few hundred years...may be a couple thousand..lets say its a couple thousand years of "moral requirement" for 3.5 billion years of life

for people who quit a marriage in pursuit of other goals (pichi ani mana lanti vallaki anipiche goals), may be the other person in the relationship is better off? who are we to judge what a person should do not knowing what his needs are
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 06:02 pm:       


Gsn1:



Emc2:



There's a cacophony in the truth, A melody in lies and it accompanies one on every journey, From the lows to the highs
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 06:02 pm:       

Ravino

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GSN chetiki edhi tochithe adhi type cheyadam wrong
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I am a Proud hindu. That statement was measuring GREAT SOULS with respect to that statement which MrHyderabad mentioned. I thought he is ardent RSS/BJP supporter, hence Rama's example. Nothing to belittle anyone or hurt anyone's sentiments.

Ofcourse, there is a difference between Rama and Buddha as one is GOD and other is humanbeing. Still the Rama's example shows that even GOD cann't satisfy everyone.
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 05:58 pm:       

Buddha tried both extreme ways in order to find truth like torturing himself as well as , nothing like having no food, etc one day when he was almost dying a lady offered him food then he realized it's not good to go either ways and follow a middle path, he did not teach us leave family out and go in to jungles, he taught us be in the society And practice non attachment. That is why sangham saranam gachami is there. It's not just mere talking or reading help us to flow it's practice that puts us on that path, continuous practice.
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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 05:58 pm:       

even RAMA is a looser then as he gave great suffering to his wife and kids and his father also.

GSN chetiki edhi tochithe adhi type cheyadam wrong,,,check twice before psoting somehting about great philosophers Ramudu 100+ cr hidavulaki ialvelpu
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 05:54 pm:       

Budhudu karanajanmudu..his philosophy is sill good intact and followed by many and peaceful coexistence with other philosophies and no one has issue in the world with Buddhism. It's not a religion which believes in conversions people who like his philosophy just follow.

He was a born hindhu and later became threat to hinduism and finally buddha ni manam oka avataram lo bavinchi boudha-dharmam patinchewallani manam mana hindus lage treat chestam cheyyali..edhe kovaki chendhina dharmalu jainism and sikkisam..

Coming to Gouthama Buddha skahatriyudiga putti vedanni correct ga patinchaledhu Budhudu..., vedani correct ga patinchi unte he was in par with Rama. Dharmo Rakshathi Rakshitaha ...
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 05:45 pm:       

Mav

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gandhi,mandela
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Are you serious? Regarding Gandhi's son, there is a book and movie also how he suffered because of his father.

Mandela was in the JAIL MOST OF HIS life, how the hell his family didn't suffer and were enjoying the life?
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 05:45 pm:       


Maverick:

gandhi,mandela




unkl both left family pretty much

mandela jail nunchi bayataki vachetappatiki mandela his relation is broken,family suffered

same with gandhi family
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 05:42 pm:       


Gsn1:


Can you name FEW WORLD


gandhi,mandela
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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 05:41 pm:       


Gsn1:



Maverick:

orni db decide chestunda ippudu..vadileyyandi babu


i didn't single out budha.. Mine is a general opinion
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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 05:38 pm:       

Mav

Can you name FEW WORLD LEADERS who truly changed the WORLD and influenced BILLIONS with their vision and conviction and also took care of their near and dear?

If you cann't name, then why single out Buddha?
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 05:35 pm:       


Maverick:




unkl this is where we need to understand, 2 ways , keep attached to materialistic world or detach from this materialistic world

reality vs illusion..it is all about our brain, how we think and how we attach, there is no real relations or own property..
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 05:30 pm:       


Gsn1:


there can be 100s people who deserted their family in search of truth..not all 100 find it. Maa dooram rleation lo okayana itlage just vanished one day..unnado poyado teliyadu..he might be searching truth..future.lo buddha avvachu avvakapovachu..but family.is going through anlot..your quest for.truth should start when u are done with ur responsibilities ornundont have responsibilities
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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 05:18 pm:       

I agree with JP_ROCKS & Sasibabu's posts in this thread.

If we go by the logic of MrHyderabad, even RAMA is a looser then as he gave great suffering to his wife and kids and his father also.

We need to look at the OVERALL change they caused and how many more benefitted than few people suffering.

By definition of one's family suffering, ALL OF THE GREAT LEADERS in the WORLD ARE LOSERS as definitely their families suffered because they were preoccupied by something else.
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 05:13 pm:       


Pfan:

ante manishi annaka his only goal is just satisfy his family and keep them happy


if u get.into a.relatioj..its ur moral.responsibility..or atleast pursue ur goals.when.they attain certain.stage..or.just dont get.into a.relation and explore all.u can
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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 04:56 pm:       


Sasibabu:



Sasibabu:

imagine a king with all pleasures leaving that path by seeing the sufferings and went on search for truth and in that process how he tortured himself physically and mentally to attain that gnanam ..... The greatest soul who walked on earth



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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 04:15 pm:       


Mrhyderabad:




shame on you, i am surprised with your thought process..

ante manishi annaka his only goal is just satisfy his family and keep them happy? is that what you are saying..

his family suffering is temporary , what buddha achieved is permanent, every once ultimate goal

when you guys watch these kind of episodes you need to analyze the thought process of writers, anthe kani don't just fall into some one else thought process

if that is the case why did his family spread his massage to world after his death, why so many followers..have you ever thought about it..

if rama should have thought about dasardha's pain than he shouldn't have killed the ravana..

people need to realize what they are here for..
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 03:33 pm:       


Mrhyderabad:

But instead he caused pain and suffering to his own family and millions of other families whose men left their families to become monks


if you guys are judging him on the basis of suffering caused to his family and other families (whose family members left them) - you need to still reconsider your judgement....if we follow this line of reasoning - just the number of people who benefited from him outnumber the number of people who suffered because of him..

so mee own logic lo chusina loser avakudadu
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 03:23 pm:       


Pulpfiction:


howdy bro? still up!!
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 03:10 pm:       


Mrhyderabad:

Billion people like me drink soda every day... does it mean it's good ?


dude - does the world remember the billion soda drinkers thousand years from now? :-)

Mrhyderabad:

Millions follow babas.. does it mean they are right ?


babai, "right" or "wrong" are extremely subjective, specially in the realm of morals and spirituality....it is part of the reason why people need an anchor like a religion or a baba/mullah/pastor/crap to 'tell them' what is right or wrong..because honestly people struggle with what is right or wrong..we all do - every single day

Mrhyderabad:

90% of the people on earth believed earth was flat... were they right ?


no they weren't...but this 'right' is different because it is the question of a fact..it could be proven to be a right or a wrong....on the other hand - how do you prove that the pursuit of money/power is right or wrong?
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 03:07 pm:       


Jp_rocks:





Nothing succeeds like success !
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 02:55 pm:       

"Buddha" was like a much needed 'correction' to an out of the bounds bull market..the system and the religion at that time was in the clutches of regressive thinking and was dominating people's lives....

the world needed a Buddha...Hinduism needed a Buddha to correct its course

in a way hinduism survived because of Buddha.....it is he who introduced the concept of vedanta to masses..it is because of him that a lot of 'violent' rituals were replaced by symbolic equivalents (like replacing narabali concept with kobbari kaya, replacing rakta tilakam with kumkuma tilakam etc)..it is in a way because of his then popular ideas that adi shankara was motivated to re-introduce a more nuanced hinduism..

if it was not for Buddha, Hinduism would've probably collapsed on its own weight - burdened by its archaic thinking and rituals..

SOOO..he doesn't seem like a 'loser' to me no matter how i look at it..yes, his ideas / religion would've been seemingly driven away from india..but that's not what happened - his ideas were included in Hinduism and gave it a much needed reality check..
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 02:38 pm:       


Jp_rocks:

for one, his ideas created a religion that is still followed by half a billion people..that doesn't sound like a "loser" to me


didn't expect this from you

Billion people like me drink soda every day... does it mean it's good ?

Millions follow babas.. does it mean they are right ?

90% of the people on earth believed earth was flat... were they right ?
Don't say you don't have enough time. You have exactly the same number of hours per day that were given to Helen Keller, Pasteur, Michaelangelo, Mother Teresea, Leonardo da Vinci, Thomas Jefferson, and Albert Einstein
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 02:28 pm:       

for one, his ideas created a religion that is still followed by half a billion people..that doesn't sound like a "loser" to me
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 01:42 pm:       


Chiru_fan:


exactly my thoughts after watching the series... weekday ayithe disco dance ok kaani weekend kashtam ee thread participating... but here are some thoughts

He wanted to find the root cause for all the pain and suffering in the world... that's is whole and sole purpose and mission

But instead he caused pain and suffering to his own family and millions of other families whose men left their families to become monks

So he caused more suffering and pain than solving the problem

More you read about these enlighted souls more you get confused... I read quite a bit about Ramana Maharshi... he is also same

I doubt if there is anything called "enlightenment" and if it is there.. is it absolute or relative to individual?

Enough for weekend
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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 01:31 pm:       

Alantappudu puttakunda unte saripothadi kada

Oka vela puttina goli kottukunte saripothadi kada

Mee mohal manda evadu eppudu em cheyalo meere decide cheyandi

Mana bathuku lu manaki bathakadam raadu sodi questions
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 01:24 pm:       


Sasibabu:

i agree with this ..... 25 - 30 dhaakaa sangham samaajam chadhuvu sandhya settlement ....appudu nundee pellam pillalu valla pillalu valla badhyathalau...where is YOU in this whole drama ....no where .... samaajam maaraaali ....maaruthundhi ...enno rojulu ledhu dhaaniki few centuries lo everyone will be themselves exploring life ....appudu malli puttalani naa aasa inko janmantoo vunte ...free bird




exactly

offtopic some people commit to causes...andaru tinnama kannama penchaama thongunnaama cycle ye follow avvalani emundi...adi followkakapothe loser anta..lol

hitler gaadu personal life ni pakkanapetti he committed for a greater cause...kaani chivariki emayundi he committed suicide the day he married his girlfriend...

personal life and personal choices need not define a person..ila chestene correctu ani cheppataaniki ledu...prathi daanloni exceptions unnayi generally accepted path kaani paath lo velli success ayinavaallu kooda bochedu mandi unnaru ga baa... ayuna kaani judge chestaam idi correctu idi tappu ani...sodhi..

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Sasibabu:


ala antaava boob baa ayuthe ok naa tuppupatinna tupaki jebulo ettukuni jump
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Sasibabu:

how he tortured himself physically and mentally to attain that gnanam ..... The greatest soul who walked on earth


maree anta ledu le..self torture to attain gnanam for himself is no big deal..who helps others is a much better soul always.
There's a cacophony in the truth, A melody in lies and it accompanies one on every journey, From the lows to the highs
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 12:59 pm:       


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Pelli pillalu vaalla prayojanalu iyye define chestaaya manishini...


i agree with this ..... 25 - 30 dhaakaa sangham samaajam chadhuvu sandhya settlement ....appudu nundee pellam pillalu valla pillalu valla badhyathalau...where is YOU in this whole drama ....no where .... samaajam maaraaali ....maaruthundhi ...enno rojulu ledhu dhaaniki few centuries lo everyone will be themselves exploring life ....appudu malli puttalani naa aasa inko janmantoo vunte ...free bird
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 12:57 pm:       

Chiru fan thammi meedha paddaaru enti?
it was a good question and doubt

Nindu garbhini ayina seethani adavilo vadilesina ramudini poojisthaam
Pellanni Joodham lo paavugaa vaadina pandavulani manchollu antundhi charithra

Buddha may be a hero or God to many but he is not for Yashodara- there was an alternative narration on how she suffered because Buddha left in the middle

No body asked him to leave his kingdom - thana istam tho vellaadu - so edho thyaagam chesinatlu chebuthaaru enti? he did what he liked


Ironically Buddhism vanished in India - that shows how well we are different from Buddhism but its still BIG in other asian countries
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 12:56 pm:       


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chiru fan jee saadhu jeevi....edho adigaade anuko aayana meedha fire fires the fire seyaalaa
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 12:54 pm:       


Pulpfiction:

mari annagaru gaari daggaraki vellaaali ani ledha


annaagaarini choosaa 3 times
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 12:46 pm:       

Avunu medhavi uncle nee success chusi hurt ayitini lol
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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 12:43 pm:       


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Loser anta loser



annai, hurt ayyinattu vunnav.....
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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 12:40 pm:       

Chiru_fan medhavi uncle

Life is a collection of events...ee thousands of events lo prathi manishiki konni tappulu untaayi konni oppulu untaayi...konni aa roju oppulu anipinchiniyyi ee roju tappu anipinchochu...and vice versa...

Nuvvu kalladdalu marchu saami..life lo oka event ni teesukuni daanni base chesukuni oka manishiki identity define cheyyali ani chuste adi murkhatvam avuddi saaru...nuvvemo medhaavi aaye..

Vethikite gaandhi lo bochedu tappulu kanipistaayi..vethiki chudu
Loser anta loser moseyyyyyy \bemmi.angry
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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 12:30 pm:       


Stalker:

lol adi pattukuni
Budhism ni ardam chesukotaniki try chestunna oka medhaavi




Annai, mee antha medhaavulam kaadu kaabatte vishayam telusukundaam ani thaadu vesaa...
CHIRU - SACHIN - FEDERER
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 12:24 pm:       

Evadi jesus propoganda lo bagamga netflix lo oka pittakatha vadili untaadu...lol adi pattukuni
Budhism ni ardam chesukotaniki try chestunna oka medhaavi
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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 12:23 pm:       


Chiru_fan:


he wants to find the answer for suffering for that Buddha even left his family, his son named rahula which means obstacle, he was obstacle for him to leave his son out
sachipotava , avineethi ga batukutava okkate option ante alochinchakunda chachipotaa ane type cbn - OT
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 12:23 pm:       


Sasibabu:

eppudanna time machine lo venakki velle avakasam vasthe ani appudappudu timepass ki dreams estham kadhaa ....appudu kooda naa first wish is to travel to Budha times and see him ....second is Mahatma Gandhi ....Greatest souls ...now dont start this RSS propaganda crap on Mahatma




mari annagaru gaari daggaraki vellaaali ani ledha time machine lo ?
Nothing succeeds like success !
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 12:21 pm:       

Pelli pillalu vaalla prayojanalu iyye define chestaaya manishini...thank god we have western society lethe taliban mindset tho prapanchanni brastupattinchevaallu losers
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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 12:19 pm:       


Chiru_fan:


kuch paane ke liye kuch kona padthaa hai jee :D
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 12:18 pm:       


Sasibabu:

he tortured himself physically



he tortured his loved ones more....imagine leaving his wife and months old baby....parents who thought that he would rule the kingdom.... his father was in agreement with making deals in a peaceful manner....but still he left everyone....
CHIRU - SACHIN - FEDERER
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 12:17 pm:       

eppudanna time machine lo venakki velle avakasam vasthe ani appudappudu timepass ki dreams estham kadhaa ....appudu kooda naa first wish is to travel to Budha times and see him ....second is Mahatma Gandhi ....Greatest souls ...now dont start this RSS propaganda crap on Mahatma :D
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 12:13 pm:       

imagine a king with all pleasures leaving that path by seeing the sufferings and went on search for truth and in that process how he tortured himself physically and mentally to attain that gnanam ..... The greatest soul who walked on earth
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 12:11 pm:       

Kami gani vadu mokshyagami gadu
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Fights / dances kosam, cinema ela unna, oka sari chudali anukune oka set of audience Chiranjeevi ki matrame unnaru. TFI lo highest success ratio Chiru ke untundi.
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 12:02 pm:       

Kastalu anubaviste kaani daniki solution etakam kada typical human tendency
...
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 11:56 am:       


Chiru_fan:




No pain no gain
No night no day
Likewise no bad no good

Ultimately goutama Buddha walked from bad to good
He is not bad but he saw bad or sick or deceased ppl and society

That Inturn source for his thoughts and for change
Driving is my PASSION.
Ball or Bimmer does not matter.
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 11:50 am:       


Chiru_fan:

mee laanti vignulu




between, many saints are selfish..in search for the truth, they deserted their family...every one who treads that path has to be a selfish person..
There's a cacophony in the truth, A melody in lies and it accompanies one on every journey, From the lows to the highs
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 11:47 am:       


Maverick:

orni db decide chestunda ippudu..vadileyyandi babu




Mav annai, doubt vacchindi...mee laanti vignulu yemi antaroo thesulusukundaamu ani thaadi vesaa...
CHIRU - SACHIN - FEDERER
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 11:47 am:       

db is soo deep. possibly greatest human being in history ni pattukoni loser anadam ohh my !!!
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 11:44 am:       

orni db decide chestunda ippudu..vadileyyandi babu
There's a cacophony in the truth, A melody in lies and it accompanies one on every journey, From the lows to the highs
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 11:44 am:       


Sasibabu:

ante aa rojullo chese balya vivaahala time ku antha thinking vuntundhaa




Sasi, balya vivaaham kaadu...chance dorikithee okka saari choodu...how selfish he was ani ardham avuthundi....he caused so much grief to his loved ones....
CHIRU - SACHIN - FEDERER
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 11:42 am:       

voorukondi saaamee ..... the best soul who has walked on this planet earth

mundhe vellipoyevaadu ante aa rojullo chese balya vivaahala time ku antha thinking vuntundhaa
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 11:39 am:       

Netflix loo series soosthee avunu anipisthaavundi....chinnappatinundi confused soul....ishtamaina marriage chesukoni...pilladu puttina tharuvaatha... he left everyone in pain and went to find answers for his questions....antha gaa vuntee mundee vellipooyee vaadu.... nizam gaa anthe noo leka manoollu masala add chesaaroo kaani....he looks like he was a looser
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