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Posted on Sunday, August 20, 2017 - 01:01 am:      


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rock guri lanti alt right vallaki




alt left batch....
 

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Posted on Sunday, August 20, 2017 - 01:01 am:      

papam boston incident ni condem chesina rock guri lanti alt right vallaki suffocation yee....ekada malli dem neutrals tump ni like chestaremo ani....
 

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Posted on Sunday, August 20, 2017 - 12:57 am:      

[a[am rock breeding heart moogapoyindi anukonta.....last 2 weeks nunchi rodinchindi....now no answer..........platform set by tump to to pass few billls like tax cuts...wall...etc (becuase with out establisment cronnes it seems he flook hair)....he will back to same agenda in end of 2018....wait...
 

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Posted on Sunday, August 20, 2017 - 12:54 am:      

tump today appreciated protestors......is there any alt left guys like rock...guri...come and appreciate him....kiki......
 

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Posted on Sunday, August 20, 2017 - 12:52 am:      

ee thread endho....rasikatha ledu...heroes gurinchi kaadhu...db lo mose leda vimarsinche leaderrs gurinchi kaadu...3000 years gurinch kaadu..ayinaa 400 koduthondi...

of course US politics anukondi..but still first time anukuntaa
 

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Posted on Sunday, August 20, 2017 - 12:43 am:      


Andhravodu:




Emiti chesedhi. Police meedha urine bottles vesthene dikku ledhu. Because according to mana dbers like gsn, ishan, rocket they are fighting for equality and its ok to do that.

Imagine a white guy threatens black guy about BLM, trump would have to explain for 3 weeks
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Posted on Sunday, August 20, 2017 - 12:40 am:      


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You don't even know there is section who are non dem white and are not supremists. For you either there are dem/minorities or kkk. So obama or any president should always try to heel dems/left. They they are satisfied media and dems feel good.

No wonder media and you are shocked by trump support for statues or condemning evil on dem/minority side. How can he say there is bad on the side that was supposed to heel

Trump statement today is Same as last week. He ommitted wrongdoing of left today so you feels ok. In the afternoons when he talked of rumored about bad protestors, you are pissed off.

That sums up your position
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Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 11:42 pm:      

http://nypost.com/2017/08/19/man-stabbed-after-haircut-gets- him-mistaken-for-a-neo-nazi/

let's see how many leaders will criticize this, or call out the hate hate groups
 

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Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 08:09 pm:      

"I want to applaud the many protestors in Boston who are speaking out against bigotry and hate"

Suryagrahanam ki mundu chandramukhi ganga laa maarinda?
 

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Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 07:54 pm:      


Guriginja:

this is what the protests are against....this is what will happen empowering them....

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/17/us/fbi-spying-white-supremacis ts-declassified/index.html




CNN aa... pitcha lite
 

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Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 07:52 pm:      

this is what the protests are against....this is what will happen empowering them....

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/17/us/fbi-spying-white-supremacis ts-declassified/index.html
 

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Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 07:14 pm:      


Jai_ycp:

It's your party president, your vote bloc, minority who had grievencea


total ga pappu lo kalesavu.. if you followed my posts you would know who I voted for.. but that doesn't matter.. my reasons were I didn't want an inexperienced person as a president..!!

Jai_ycp:

Trump condemned racists and said bad people are on all sides.


unless we are all tone deaf .. ila kudaradhu. Antha clarity vunte.. intha fallout vundadhu!!

Jai_ycp:

When you think he diffused situation, he ignored a section of America who felt hurt. But they did not rally that's all.


what section did he ignore.. white supremacists!!!! again you are creating new narrative. If he ignored a section , same reaction vundedhi. He appealed to public and public responded. 2008 is not far behind. It's better we let some one else comment on that speech. There should be some people on this board who had an opinion at that time. That was the first time I looked at obama positively thinking maybe he is the guy who majority people believe to be

And yes he took a healing role rather than confrontating role. His approval was indicative of how many people were convinced..
Even Fox News said , it is not enough but he made a sincere attempt.. was that too much to ask for from Trump?? Don't blame just me. sontha party lo manushule Chala mandhi feel ayyadu. Mana Fox News kuda slammed him. It's only after that he is softening !!

By the way , president Trump answered why counter protest rally was needed. Unless you don't believe he is sincere, you should be good with that!!
 

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Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 06:16 pm:      


Rocketk2:




You got to the point. Wright is an extremist and shown race hatred. President condemned him but provided a justification about why he did what he did. are ok with it. Why

It's your party president, your vote bloc, minority who had grievencea

Put trump Charlottesville
Trump condemned racists and said bad people are on all sides. He did not support or Provide an explanation what made the guy did what he did. He blasted him and his organization away. Yet trump was wrong in your eyes because he said there is a fault on both sides.


When you think he diffused situation, he ignored a section of America who felt hurt. But they did not rally that's all.

When he refused to name Islamic terrorism after Orlando incident, refused to support cops against blm, supported black perceived injustice by saying he was trevon I was furious. So does a lot of people. We felt that he is not letting race issue down but keeping it alive.

Compare to what obama did, trump did only 10%.
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Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 05:28 pm:      


Moviebuff001:

If only liberal media backs down a bit. Even 10%.... from Crying foul everyday.... Things might get better from the President.
And media ni rechagottatam inka vere Presidents cheyyaledu antunnarenti....

You can't listen to fox and Rush ani evaru annadi...




Enough disco on this already...

There is a big CYA operation in play, do you think Reps/Dems care about America anymore? This is big business and big money to be made. They are throwing the people under the bus. Trump is anti establishment. A true canary in the coal mine(bakra). Traditional conservatism is dead.
 

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Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 05:22 pm:      


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If only liberal media backs down a bit. Even 10%.... from Crying foul everyday.... Things might get better from the President.
And media ni rechagottatam inka vere Presidents cheyyaledu antunnarenti....

You can't listen to fox and Rush ani evaru annadi...
 

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Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 05:07 pm:      


Hadoop:

annai..before nov koncham rational gaa argue chesevadu...now is much went to far left towards alt left.....so ipudu meeru emi chepina sankam oodinatte...not much use...


alt left entha abadhamo.. idhi kuda anthe :-)

Ayyana one step munduki vesthe .. na lanti vallu 10 steps veyyadaniki ready ga vuntaru.. but he is disappointing.. policy lo I can understand.. nachakapoyana there is a different side I can understand ..
But konni things vuntayi..those won't change with conservative or liberal values !!! Ee week lo vasthunna reactions avve!!
 

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Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 04:51 pm:      


Asdf:

ut univ campus lo petrol bombs nunchi punching random guys at opponent rallies daaka - its not right. what was the provocation that they had to hurl petrol bombs


this is what I keep saying 'sky is blue'. Asala dhenni lo seconds thoughts akkaraledhu.. it's a criminal incident

Asdf:

ee freedom of speech/expression VS hate symbols meeda charcha jaragaali.


definite ga jaragali .. and president should be the one who facilitates but not takes sides..

2008 lo I was extremely angry with obama about jermaiah weight comments. Then I heard him speak about the race relations .. the way he addresssed them. By the end of that speech, I may not have been completely convinced but there was calming effect ... koncham alochinchelaga chesindhi.. he didn't say jermaiah was right or wrong .. he painted a picture of society .. it was explanatory at the same time bit apologetic !! .. so sincere .. so to the point (if you have not heard it, I recommend. The context is controversy about his pastor)

I expected something like that from trump .. atleast an attempt.. but got a compete 180
 

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Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 04:41 pm:      


Moviebuff001:

President Trump need to stand up before county breaks. He is the only one that can do anything about it . What is going is not a joke to laugh it off and play partisan politics..




Partisan politics a thokka. All the freeloaders and lazy bums in the country thanks to liberal socialism are scared about their federal/state sponsored welfare system. Adhi matter. Rest is all optics spun up by corrupt media and liberals.
 

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Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 04:40 pm:      

rock annai..before nov koncham rational gaa argue chesevadu...now is much went to far left towards alt left.....so ipudu meeru emi chepina sankam oodinatte...not much use....
 

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Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 04:35 pm:      


Jai_ycp:

It's your view that is the problem not trump


ok brother.. I agree we are going in circles again !! ..if it is just my view vachina badhemi ledhu.. if not there is bigger problem

Jai_ycp:

Trumps words does not even matter.


and I strongly believe those are the only things that matter!!! And root of the problems!!
 

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Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 04:34 pm:      

People throwed stoned and urine filled bottles at police officers escorting 100 odd conservatives safely. Rocket sir thinks that is because they are scared. That too in liberal MA.

Rocket sirjee,

There is non justification for this. If some body from conservatives bought a rifle or did a mischief, it would have been all easy for you in justifying.

See mayors comments.
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Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 04:31 pm:      


Rocketk2:

Did you hear about antifa during last elections?




charlotsville incident tarvata antifa athi chesunte asalu tappu ledu. but univ campus lo petrol bombs nunchi punching random guys at opponent rallies daaka - its not right. what was the provocation that they had to hurl petrol bombs?

dont get me wrong, what happened last week is a tellal incident.and ee manda are making sure the tellal batch can recruit more.

trump edava ayyundachu, but celebrities nunchi journos and senator daka intha mandi sampeyali ane word vaadatam is terrible. you think they are saying that word without thinking about the support they would get?

ee freedom of speech/expression VS hate symbols meeda charcha jaragaali. why is burning a reigious book/US book allowed, if hate speech is not protected?
 

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Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 04:31 pm:      


Rocketk2:

Don't let them change narrative and make this about something it is not.


this is an age old tactic of parties and organizations to pursue their twisted interests...provoke a section of opposition parties, make them mistakes and completely focus and emphasize on their mistakes making opposition party sympathizers rethink their priorities, create a division and destabilize society, and create their mirror image group in the opposite section...mean while people forget the most important thing here...that the mirror image is an effect and the cause is the faulty group...same thing is happening here...No body really gives a damn about statues...
Don't text and drive !
 

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Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 04:26 pm:      


Rocketk2:




You ask what free speech is under threat. People are not being allowed to conduct rally's like Boston, give speeches like berkley, Portland, Ohio etc.

The problem is your understanding. You have decided that any rally taken or speech given by non left/dems is rasicst in nature. How did you arrive because of thier intentions.

When left/dems organized protest to bully them, you think it's a counter reaction only.

Trumps words does not even matter.

He criticizes left wing groups and you think it is destroying peace
Obama critiques right wing and calls while southerners disparagingly as people who cling to bible and guns, you think that is building fabric.

Let me try one lAst time
Country is not about minorities and /or left groups only. If obama stands with mit black professor or trevon, he is addressing only section of the country only. Rest of the country felt left out.

If president criticizes counter protestors in Boston, he is addressing section. Of the country only..

To draw parallels, you want minority appeasement all the teAm.

People are scared. Who are they?

People who turn 15000 to bully 100 odd rally people. Who conducts rallies right from nov 8 election. Who stopped free speech at universities. Who took out statues.

Left/dems are right now ruling the roads. Why? Traditionally they have more activist base that are made of goons and low income folks. Right wing is typically made of middle class and will do things more subduedly.

This is true across the world.

Bottom line: other than your interpretation and understanding background, there is no action done by trump that is deeemed rasict. There is no straight words that supported any rasicst organizations.

You wanted to believe and thinks because it suits dem/left narrative. Exact words trump spoke, if delivered by dem leader, you would consider soothing both and chiding bad elements in side.

It's your view that is the problem not trump
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Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 04:22 pm:      


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aa k ebrasi gaadu reporter ni i will burn you annadu. why no action taken? r


brother .. same event as happened in Boston without charlotsville backdrop and trump's statement will be totally different .. freedom of speech kochina ibbandhemi ledhu..
if we compartmentalize incidents into small buckets and try to judge them, we will make mistakes ..

I talked about antifa with naxalite example to you.. any movement will have some oppurtunists in it. They instigate .. that is how they win..that is not the point. Did you hear about antifa during last elections?? I did not!

What you agreed with me is all I am saying. The context changes the meaning of actions and words . Ivala rally ni charlotsville and president words context teesesi chesthe .. ycp will look right ..
But mana lives emanna late '90's webpages as?? Context lekunda prathi refresh ki new ga start avvadaniki..
Even your feelings are based on some context not this current relevant context .. most of the times our discussions hinges there. You are always right but deal with topics out of context.
 

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Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 04:05 pm:      


Rocketk2:

Right now there is a section of people that feels threatenend and believe their president is not with them. He is giving all indications of alienation
!!




i can agree with you, as i also feel the same. but freedom of speech/expression anedi 2 way street.

aa k ebrasi gaadu reporter ni i will burn you annadu. why no action taken? reality show naa adi emaina. ee desam lo murders chesi raja laga tiragachu, murder sestaa anachu. but some places lo book chestaaru
 

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Jai_ycp:

Your audience is same. Obama pleases them so you feel situation is eased out. Trump condemns the groups your audience is not pleased. So you feel situation is flared up.


this is where you are gettting it wrong .. I have said several times i don't think obama is competent president w.r.t policy.
But he never broke the moral fabric of society. The alt-right, tea party whatever it is that is started the next moment obama became president .. what do you think is that!!!

The whole identity politics you are blaming Dems for is what is happening now .. and yes it will backfire. 8 months into presidency .. every single conflict has his stamp .. it is not media .. it is not my head.. it is coming straight from his mouth!!
 

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Rocketk2:

what free speech is under threat?? Hate speech.. neo-nazi stand ???




if that comes as hate speech under law, book them . or modify the law to book them.

small example - central park daggara hindu gods ni naana booths dobbutoo oka placard pattukunnadu. kalukk mandi naaku. adi hate speech kabatti aadni nenu pattukuni kottachaa? punch a nazi laaga naaku bhi ee manda support chestundaa?

freedom of expression peru tho US flag ni burn chestaaru. adi hate kinda vastundaa raada? why do these intellects not condemn that ? aa flag burning was not done under blm or some banner. random cases, but still why doe they allow it?
 

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Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 03:57 pm:      


Jai_ycp:

The hypocracy of the left and dems is shown in the Boston rally this weekend.
There was a free speech rally. Organizaers condemned Charlottesville and asked kkk folks and other nazis not to attend.

Dems conducted counter rally at same time. What are they protesting? Free speech.




finally i have to agree on your post :D

ninna antifa ni rationalize chestoo cnn lo article. of course they are not as dangerous as k batch, but they have potential.

look at the heading
//Activists seek peace through violence//

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/18/us/unmasking-antifa-anti-fasci sts-hard-left/index.html
 

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Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 03:57 pm:      


Jai_ycp:

Give me any reason why there is counter protest in Boston for a free speech rally?


what free speech is under threat?? Hate speech.. neo-nazi stand ???
This how civil unrest starts!! Ekkada start ayyindhi .. evaru start chesaru anukunta kurchunte .. Emi migaladhu !!

Right now there is a section of people that feels threatenend and believe their president is not with them. He is giving all indications of alienation
!!

Nenu 'Sky is blue ' ani oka rally chesi.. vere agenda run chestha .. right ayyipothunda.. we all know sky is blue.. but what is happening under that disguise.

Whose free speech is under threat .. asalu Ee rallies and counter rallies venaka real dialogue enti ??? Adhi vadilesi.. statue.. free speech anukunte .. we are cheating ourselves!!
 

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Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 03:49 pm:      


Rocketk2:




Your audience is same. Obama pleases them so you feel situation is eased out. Trump condemns the groups your audience is not pleased. So you feel situation is flared up.

Trump pacified other side ( statue supporters) to ease situation. You don't like it because you don't care about them.

I hope I was able to point out where you are going wrong.

I don't blame you or the dems. It the worse race game they are playing. It wil backfire. We will see in 2018 elections
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Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 03:47 pm:      


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' looks like many anti-police agitators in boston' ..
this few mins back...epudanna Obama kani.. Inko leader kaani ila rechakottatam chusara??
He doesn't know how to be a president. He is tearing the country apart and making excuses for it .. inka obama .,,Dems anukunta vuntara??

He is taunting !! Narcissism on display .. this is not healing or consoling... this agitating. He is personally doing it!!
I will stop here and back off.. you can think it over !!
 

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Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 03:38 pm:      


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Fallout aa? did he say there are good people in kkk or the protestors at Charlettesville? He said latter and dems and media made it former.

You can't seperate both. On Saturday and Monday he spoke about statues you made it about kkk.

Anybody who rallies for trump is a kkk is what dem and media are projecting.e

Give me any reason why there is counter protest in Boston for a free speech rally?

These are same people who protested from November to January last year.

Mitt cried Same last year but nobody care what he said. This is the same guy who said about 47% not paying taxes. Now he is a saint
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Ide tappu O kooda chesadu. BLM ni Antifa ni okkasari kooda ila cheyyaddu ani cheppaledu.


not true brother... obama is the one that has taken the blacks. He has always scolded black side also. Chala incidents vunnayi.. he called out black kids being abandoned by their fathers .. blacks were severely disappointed with obama.. don't draw this equivalence.

Ilanti situations lo obama takes a very different approach. He always tried to defuse tension.. idhi comparable kadhu..
obama ne kaadhu .. most of the world leaders do that .. it is the burden and responsibility of leader. obama edho Muslims favors chesthdu.. black ni favor Chestadu ane narrative Chala tappu

Did you watch trump statements from Saturday and Tuesday???. Not read.. watch???
 

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Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 03:23 pm:      


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f anybody thinks this response is due to trump, they will be naive. Me


it is clear. Fallout. Taruvatha kooda ardham kavataledhu.. even after crappy saturday response, he kinda came back with robotic Monday response. They were willing to move on.
Once they started the statue narrative .. his Tuesday's comeback!! Ikkada vundhi naivety antha !!

Evaru dhenni protest chesthunnaro telekunda tayaraindhi.. leading into mass Hysteria.. who started it.. president's response!!

Identity politics Dems Sothu kadhu....look at what this president is doing ... spewing lies and dog whistles.

Romney said it best .

"Whether he intended to or not, what he communicated caused racists to rejoice, minorities to weep, and the vast heart of America to mourn. His apologists strain to explain that he didnât mean what we heard. But what we heard is now the reality, and unless it is addressed by the president as such, with unprecedented candor and strength, there may commence an unraveling of our national fabric.â


Jai_ycp:

Statues kosamu rally teesthe it is not about statues.


I will not get into statues discussion .. that is a diversion.. Tuesday varaku meeku kuda rani thought adhi!!
 

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Rocketk2:

President Trump need to stand up before county breaks. He is the only one that can do anything about it . What is going is not a joke to laugh it off and play partisan politics..



Ide tappu O kooda chesadu. BLM ni Antifa ni okkasari kooda ila cheyyaddu ani cheppaledu. If he addressed it back then, we probably could have taken a different path.
 

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Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 02:49 pm:      

If anybody thinks this response is due to trump, they will be naive. Media and dems are always against against rep presidents. They considers regan and dangerous and bush as dumb. But they fought politically only. Now they made peace with goon organizations like BLM and ANIFA in last decade and we are seeing the consequence.



You can't guilt people forever. Whites and upper middle class across America are driving straight to republicans. I thought Mi, PA and WI wins are fluke for reps. It will be a norm in future
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The hypocracy of the left and dems is shown in the Boston rally this weekend.
There was a free speech rally. Organizaers condemned Charlottesville and asked kkk folks and other nazis not to attend.

Dems conducted counter rally at same time. What are they protesting? Free speech.

CNN article says tensions raised when these country rally protesters jeered at free speech rally.

Cnn vade annadu ante it should be worse.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/19/us/boston-free-speech-rally/in dex.html

Rocket Sir says trump is causing this. Is it really trump or dems who cannot take being out of power.
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Statues kosamu rally teesthe it is not about statues. Country wide dems took 100s of statues out. In md a ac judge who ruled slaves have no right to sue based on technicality (in 1860) statues was removed. How is he different from current Chief Justice who ruled in favor of obama care saying it is a form of tax or extend gay marriage.

Pelosi and other dems are continuing like the national review author said in his article.

They are pushing south people and all whites into a corner

Accept your culture is bad and follow our PC or be branded as racist. Good for repubs. I see a chance that more and more whites will turn to reps.

Dems boon and curse is identity politics
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Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 02:04 pm:      


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annai +10000
 

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Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 01:44 pm:      

It's not about .. it's not about f**king statues.. I hope Dems and liberals have enough head to stop falling in this trap. Don't let them change narrative and make this about something it is not.
Focus on the fundemental issue!! Have a dialogue on what it means.. it's disheartening to see president leading civil unrest in this country !!

Eee db lo jarigede world Lo kuda jaruguthundhi.. frustrating and divisive!! This is never Dems and republicans issue. This is never liberal and conservative issue.
This is how moral decay starts !!!

This is never about statues.. morons like pelosi need to realize this .. chuck schummer has been doing his best keeping it together .. the liberal left need to wise up and stop falling for this.. they will kill the key dialogue, if they are not cautious

President Trump need to stand up before county breaks. He is the only one that can do anything about it . What is going is not a joke to laugh it off and play partisan politics..
 

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Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 09:20 am:      


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false flag. 19 years old ante vaadini pattukuraru
 

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https://www.benzinga.com/general/politics/17/08/9945281/is-j acob-wohl-being-groomed-for-a-role-in-the-trump-administrati on
 

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Wolf blitzer on CNN regarding barcelona terror attack... " Yeah there will be questions about copycats" .... Trying to somehow connect alt-right to terror attacks.

The only commonality is that they both are acts of terror.

Disgusting.
 

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https://imgur.com/a/fLZGk

opika unnollu saduvukondi. john stewart on live stage.
 

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Posted on Friday, August 18, 2017 - 09:04 pm:      


Ishan:

ame thing with Bush family who didnt even vote for Trump.




rest of the jantha sare. oka war criminal ni normalize enduku sestunnaru, is it because looks like and sounds like a mickey?
 

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Posted on Friday, August 18, 2017 - 08:55 pm:      


Cbcbob:

My point is meaningful conservatism died in the late 80s.



What do you mean by meaning conservatism?? Could you please care to explain :-)
 

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Posted on Friday, August 18, 2017 - 05:35 pm:      


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15+ mastaru. 25 lo Em marindi? Na varaku, 2001,2008 to 2011, 2014-present 3 oil down turns took some strain on people. Economic strain ni tattukogalagatam andari valla kadu.
But Good people are still good.




My point is meaningful conservatism died in the late 80s. From there RINOs/Dems took over and killed the American dream. Not too optimistic abt the future for the lower middle class.
 

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Nuvvu ikkadochi enendlu ayyayi?



15+ mastaru. 25 lo Em marindi? Na varaku, 2001,2008 to 2011, 2014-present 3 oil down turns took some strain on people. Economic strain ni tattukogalagatam andari valla kadu.
But Good people are still good.
 

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It's not all doom and gloom... Anta dramatic emi kadu. I




Nuvvu ikkadochi enendlu ayyayi? I am going by last 25 years of decline I have experienced and seen and not through some thothapuri media outlets.
 

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Cbcbob:

Well he is here now and getting schooled by his own RINO party. True conservatism is dead. Its the age of the white walkers. Extreme leftism founded on driving USA into the coal mine filled with cheap labor and profits for the rich. American middlers' dream will truly be dead for most people.



It's not all doom and gloom... Anta dramatic emi kadu. If anything, US as a country will learn it's lessons.
 

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Looks like most democrats are still in shock.
One for Hillary's loss, and the other for almost unbelievable Trump's win. Feminist or not.




Well he is here now and getting schooled by his own RINO party. True conservatism is dead. Its the age of the white walkers. Extreme leftism founded on driving USA into the coal mine filled with cheap labor and profits for the rich. American middlers' dream will truly be dead for most people.
 

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Cbcbob:

Feminist batch...still sour Hilliary lost.



Looks like most democrats are still in shock.
One for Hillary's loss, and the other for almost unbelievable Trump's win. Feminist or not.
 

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Posted on Friday, August 18, 2017 - 02:46 pm:      


Pete_sampras:

seriously its not worth it


Yupp, just realized

Mental_sachinodu:

they have been against Trump many times before, but there are republicans who never talked negative about him starting to question his methods..


Which actually makes them more correct than the latter ... they knew whats coming...same thing with Bush family who didnt even vote for Trump....nevertheless the point here is that any republican is a better republican than the president
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Ishan:

.hard core republicans McCain and Mitt Romney ee boothulu thiduthunnarantene telusthundi...




they have been against Trump many times before, but there are republicans who never talked negative about him starting to question his methods.. like good ole Newt or Tennessee's Bob Corker ..
 

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Ishan:

McCain especially is a widely respected senior republican who contributed to the party's growth over the years and his opinions matter...


the what now? I prefer my senators not captured...
 

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Pete_sampras:

Democrat Maria Chappelle




Feminist batch...still sour Hilliary lost.
 

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Posted on Friday, August 18, 2017 - 02:02 pm:      


Ishan:




Punt...punt...punt....seriously its not worth it :D
 

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Posted on Friday, August 18, 2017 - 02:00 pm:      


Ishan:

senior republican who contributed to the party's growth over the years a




you have to seriously brush up your knowledge. mccain is considered as maverick republican often crossing party standings. he has many times pondered to defect to democratic party. kanisamu ikkada romney peru anna vadithe better ga vundedhi.
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Posted on Friday, August 18, 2017 - 01:58 pm:      


Ishan:

Losing presidential elections doesn't diminish their value as republicans nor does it assesses their competency as leaders. Don't sidetrack the gist of the discussion just like your idol.



people did not feel them as competent leaders. elegante nationals ki select kaani ranji players international cricket vadevallaki ata nerpatamu laga.

i am not sidetracking. you chose a half dem and a sore looser to specify that. you could have used bob corker as an example to prove your point. not mccain, romney, obams and schumer like your loving media does.
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Posted on Friday, August 18, 2017 - 01:49 pm:      


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Democrat Maria Chappelle-Nadal must immediately resign for saying, "I hope Trump is assassinated."
---- Identi terrorism aa racism aa bigotry aa hatred aa
Poortiga dobbesindi mind eellaki.



...she has to go....either she has to resign and save face or voters should teach her a lesson...
 

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Posted on Friday, August 18, 2017 - 01:46 pm:      


Jai_ycp:

obama tho vodipoyina romney, mccain ee cheppali ela rule cheyyalo. janamu kurchiondira pula chooka ani pakkaki petatru


Losing presidential elections doesn't diminish their value as republicans nor does it assesses their competency as leaders. Don't sidetrack the gist of the discussion just like your idol.

Andhravodu:

no it doesn't. Eppudu cheyani vallu ippudu ade cheste nothing differet


It sure does because McCain especially is a widely respected senior republican who contributed to the party's growth over the years and his opinions matter... compliment cheyyadaniki eppudu reason ledu and ippudu kooda ledu...
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Posted on Friday, August 18, 2017 - 01:37 pm:      


Ishan:

and that proves my point...


no it doesn't. Eppudu cheyani vallu ippudu ade cheste nothing differet
 

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Ishan:

and that proves my point...ayina emi ghanakaryam chesadani



obama tho vodipoyina romney, mccain ee cheppali ela rule cheyyalo. janamu kurchiondira pula chooka ani pakkaki petatru
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Posted on Friday, August 18, 2017 - 01:35 pm:      


Ishan:

Counteracting a group that hates people based on skin color, sexual orientation and race is called fighting for equality and individual freedom.



but they are not seen in charlottesville, berkely. what we see is cops hating, white bashing, stooping speeches tours by violence gang.
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Posted on Friday, August 18, 2017 - 01:21 pm:      


Andhravodu:

eellu trump ni eppudaina compliment chesina instances unnaya


and that proves my point...ayina emi ghanakaryam chesadani compliment cheyyadaniki?...

Jai_ycp:

white bashing is equality and not allowing oppoiste groups perform rally or give speeches is individual freedom.


No. Counteracting a group that hates people based on skin color, sexual orientation and race is called fighting for equality and individual freedom.
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Ishan:

group that supports equality and individual freedom



white bashing is equality and not allowing oppoiste groups perform rally or give speeches is individual freedom.
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Posted on Friday, August 18, 2017 - 01:14 pm:      


Ishan:

hard core republicans McCain and Mitt Romney ee boothulu thiduthunnarantene telusthundi...


eellu trump ni eppudaina compliment chesina instances unnaya
 

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Thread mottham sadaveledu kaani, Drawing moral equivalency between a divisive supremacist hate group and a group that supports equality and individual freedom is as stupid as it gets for a president...hard core republicans McCain and Mitt Romney ee boothulu thiduthunnarantene telusthundi...
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Rocketk2:

apparently he called Trump an ''arrogant fool' with some reporter and that made trump furious . who knows.... this is not official explanation..
It may be trump accepting he made mistake!!



breitbert vadu resignation aug 7th ichadu antunnadu. anyhow no matter what lame move by trump. it is not going to change media, dems and rep establishment narrative on him as white supremacist.

bannon ki official duties kuda levu kadha. other than advising. might be family members tho godava ayyindhi emo.
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Jai_ycp:


apparently he called Trump an ''arrogant fool' with some reporter and that made trump furious . who knows.... this is not official explanation..
It may be trump accepting he made mistake!!
 

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Andhravodu:

drudge lo siren pettadu, confirmed bannon gone



pretty lame move. flynn fiore chesthe russia investigation ela agipoundhi anukunnado bannon fire chesthe white superamist tag pothundhi ankuntunnademo. it does not work that way.
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drudge lo siren pettadu, confirmed bannon gone
 

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There is rumor that Bannon resigned or trump removed him ..




if yes, its a bad move by trump. he is not gonna get support from establishment and media no matter what.
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There is rumor that Bannon resigned or trump removed him ..
 

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Democrat Maria Chappelle-Nadal must immediately resign for saying, "I hope Trump is assassinated."
---- Identi terrorism aa racism aa bigotry aa hatred aa
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Terror has no religion is very much aligned with terror has no race ..




tellal has no race ane rhetoric enduku antha inipinchaledu. why do some even go the extent that ee incident khandinchani prathi tellod valla tho vunnatlu?

of course this is a tellal incident, but "if not with us, you are them" ane rhetoric needs to tone down. if not, lindaS lanti vallani nethi meeda pettukunna sanghaalu jihadis anatam lo tappu led
 

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You bring me the video where obama said some terrorists are good!!! His videos and statements are all available




answer lenappudu ilane cheptaru.....show where tump said terr good then? whole point of this thrd is tump both sides lo some ppl good ani annadane kada....then u ppl and dem since inception terr is nothing to do with grp ane kada...? then y double stanards on tump
 

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lets take one step back. aslau trump anetodu prez race lo ledu. refugees concept dumrikans ki telidu. aa rojullo bhi "tellal has no religion" sodi ledaa?


idhi Donald trump start cheyyaledhu.. dheenini donald trump use chesukuntadu!!

You are going several ways . It is simple .. terrorist act ki .. terror has no religion ki madhylo emi ledhu??? Emi lekundane.. janam terror has no religion ani haha karalu chesthunnara??. we need to step back..
Terror has no religion lo fundemental defense is not against Islam. It is against spread of hatred . People who talk about 'terror has no religion' are not trying to take a side.. they are tying to stop people from taking sides.... and be unified against evil. Hate the act and what is leading that act .. we should not try to justify by creating equivalence. When a terrorist attacks innocent people .. it is act of terror. His reasons for doing it doesn't make it right. Indhulo naaku Chala clarity vundhi

Terror has no religion is very much aligned with terror has no race ..
 

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The war on statuary serves two purposes: The first is to humiliate Southerners in retribution for their support of Republican politicians and conservative causes, particularly religious and social causes. The second is to help Democrats win elections without white men. If only whites voted, the last Democratic president would have been Lyndon Johnson. If only white men voted, Mitt Romney would have won 45 states and 501 electoral votes in 2012. Donald Trumpâs victory in 2016 showed Democrats that political math behind the Obama coalition â assembling enough groups of aggrieved minorities to create a majority â is no guarantee of victory in the Electoral College, especially when the charismatic young black man is replaced by a degenerate little old lady from Park Ridge. Keeping non-whites in a state of panic and agitation is necessary to Democratsâ political aspirations. Twenty years of economic prosperity and social peace would do grievous damage to the Left: The Reagan boom, which lasted from the early 1980s until nearly the turn of the century, reduced the Left to little more than a few deans of students and had Bill Clinton complaining that heâs been forced to become an Eisenhower Republican to win and keep the presidency. The war on statuary serves two purposes: The first is to humiliate Southerners in retribution for their support of Republican politicians and conservative causes The Democratsâ motives here are tawdry and self-serving, for the most part.
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Posted on Friday, August 18, 2017 - 10:24 am:      


Moviebuff001:

Chi that pomegranate orange life

Obul saar time lo ee statues gurtu raleda mee jimmada.




The author in national review article exactly pointed to this. This is not a genuine grievance of a african american. Left/Dems want to keep this issue alive so that there will be schism in the society. Once minorities are threatened, they will vote for dems enmasse.

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Posted on Friday, August 18, 2017 - 10:18 am:      


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ere is what happens..islam is attacked and Muslims should be banned ane rhetoric start avuthundhi




lets take one step back. aslau trump anetodu prez race lo ledu. refugees concept dumrikans ki telidu. aa rojullo bhi "tellal has no religion" sodi ledaa?

monnati incident meeda resign cheyani ceo is with them ane rhetoric entha correct? ipudu bush goru sesina yudhalu condemn cheyani prathi ceo em aithaaru?
 

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Ee antifa lu, blm lu ma Houston meeda paddaru. Ee weekend Sam Houston Park lo statues ni edo cheyyali ani planning.
Deeniki ma history memu kapadukuntam ani start....
Chi that pomegranate orange life

Obul saar time lo ee statues gurtu raleda mee jimmada.
 

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Hadoop:

am still curios to know ...any vidios of obul saar...where close to 100 poyaru combined fl, san bern, ..etc and thousands got injured ?


Emi video kavali brother Neeku. You are in total confused mode . You bring me the video where obama said some terrorists are good!!! His videos and statements are all available here https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov


Asdf:

ka hypocrisy vundi masataru intellect sangham daggara.

islamic tellal event aina prathi saari - tellal has no religion. fb lo display pic maariste all set



You are 10 times more intellectual than those hypocrites!!! Andhuku konni chinna things mee drushti loki ravataledhu
Let me try this
Tellal event aina prathi saari.... terror has no religion ane mundhu.. anything else come to your notice?? Some thing else that is said!!

Aa statements rendu disconnected ga levu?? here is what happens..islam is attacked and Muslims should be banned ane rhetoric start avuthundhi.. that is when the statement you said happens...you are making it sound like .. Barcelona lo attack avvagane every one that you put in that 'group' will start saying terrorism has no religion... that's not true!! Terrorism has nonreligion generally follows the statement Islam is the reason for terrorism

Does it make any difference when you put what I said into relevance ??
 

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You are getting confused yourself. L


both of us are clear. We both know what trump did.
Trump Emi condemn chesado .. Emi cheyyaledho.. eppudu chesado.. eppudu cheyyaledho.. we both know it with clarity ..

Statues gurinchi matladandi.. asalemi jaraganattu.. when people are waking on streets with nazi symbols!!!

So you go on google searching for news from everywhere and anywhere :-). Ila cheyyatam valle mana Russians job easy ayyindhi.

Adhey link lo very next matter idhi
that poll, a majority of Americans said they disapprove of President Donald Trumpâs handling of the situation in Charlottesville, Virginia. Fifty-two percent didnât feel Trumpâs response to the violence was strong enough, 21% were unsure, and 27% felt it was strong enough.

No wonder we want to change narrative when we are in bottom 27%
 

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Hadoop:

Rocketk2:
Islamic terrorism is condmened ! They are scum on earth .. No ifs and buts.. let's get that out of the way!!


Edho tv show lo dialogue vundhi.. ' every thing you say before 'but' is horseshxt''. Ani..
so go back and watch that condemnation .. you will find lot of horse manure!!


show me one obul vidio saar.....i did not remember he said even after all us netizans gaggulu pettina......may be tump laaga oka saari emanna annademo telvadu...get the vidio of u r priyatam nayakudu




i am still curios to know ...any vidios of obul saar...where close to 100 poyaru combined fl, san bern, ..etc and thousands got injured ?
 

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Majority Americans wanted statues to stay
https://www.google.com/amp/wtvr.com/2017/08/17/poll-confeder ate-statues-remain/amp/



Trump ga nee gut instincts are super. Media wanted to pivot about this as racists you pivoted to it as heritage and culture
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You are getting confused yourself. Let's not do paragraph and do in question and answer format. Let's also not try to interpret body language as it is subjective
1) did trump bash the neo nazis and condemned violence
Answer: yes
2) did trump Govt took all possible action against that guy
Answer: yes
3) did trump agree that there are nazis, kkk present in the protest
Answer: yes
You will also agree but don't agree to below questions
4) did trump believe that there are good people in the protest. Don't compare the march done in the night with the protest in afternoon. Protest is much bigger and has more number of people
Answer: yes.
5) did trump believe that anti protesters are violent too
Answer: yes.

The difference is last 2 questions.
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Mental_sachinodu:

who are unreasonable ani chepthunaar kadha ikkada



Antifa undi kada....
2 things here.
1 argument is that there is no alt-left or extreme left.
2. Whites are racists.
I am responding to my perception of Pete's posts with respect to second argument. I could be wrong. Anduke clarification adigindi.
 

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Moviebuff001:

Whites lo reasonable people plenty. Monna Charlottesville incident lo there are mostly white people protesting against alt-right. No?




but they are left leaning..no?(alt-left) who are unreasonable ani chepthunaar kadha ikkada
 

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Pete_sampras:

whites kill more cops than blacks do...



I will come back to your stats after reading your links.
But ee statement clarification kavali. Are you saying that all those whites who kill cops are racists and not part extreme left wingers?
Whites lo reasonable people plenty. Monna Charlottesville incident lo there are mostly white people protesting against alt-right. No?
 

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Jai_ycp:

It explains left increased focus on confederate statues now.


why don't you go back and check what trump said in 2015 about taking down confederate flag!!

It is not about statues and flag. Dems will be dumb if they respond along these lines( I know I just did). Don't let them make it dem vs reps issue.
 

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He condemned unequivocally. Media did not like


the way I post news , you should atleast give me that I watch most of them in real time. I watched every single statement and interview Trump has said real time .

I saw Trump live as he made a point of repeating 'many sides' second time with a emphasis ( that's the whistle). I saw him animated and getting angry on media as he was giving press conference . I saw him starting to walk away and stop to talk about big and beautiful 'wineries' he owned in charlotsville while a reporter asked about heather . I saw all these as they happened .

So no .. I am not coming from echo chamber . I saw the president while he made this comments .. not google search after that happened . I am even watching how the talking points for the white house is trying to change narrative from race and bigotry to statues and history !!

Statue protest cheyyadaniki vachina group leader Richard spence(self proclaimed white supremacist), David duke( need i say more )

Statue protest was a cover . Decision to take the statue was taken in may itself .. aa roju kuda they led a protest .. nobody cared... what is different about this protest .. a details anni lekunda .. manaki thochinana .. asmadheeyulu pampina spin ni propagate chestha.. nannu media influenced antunnara :-)
 

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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 10:41 pm:      


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Charlottesville incident



Allamma neo-nazis ..but trumpanna has to satisfy his core mobile /trailer home voters no ..kabatti
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08/17/trump-administrat ion-shuts-down-central-american-minor-protection-program.htm l




Fake news !!!
 

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Trump doing his duty

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08/17/trump-administrat ion-shuts-down-central-american-minor-protection-program.htm l


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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 10:36 pm:      


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oka hypocrisy vundi masataru intellect sangham daggara.

islamic tellal event aina prathi saari - tellal has no religion. fb lo display pic maariste all set

k batch tellal tarvata - idi denounce seyanodu vallani support chesinatlu. mee andaru tella tellal batch.

oka liberal conspiracy theorist vundi(yes, they exist). NY or some city lo some dept marked target areas on the road with a x. adi swastika ani seppi godava sesindi.
cut seste, i love my m batch. manam andaram religion of the book anta. sounds like liberal leaders, who hold meetings in church.
 

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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 10:36 pm:      


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Bagane pettedu kadha endhuku twisting chesthu naru



Nuvvu just 5 days late....we are talking about Charlottesville incident
 

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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 10:35 pm:      


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Spain lo vunna jihadi gang ki cheppamani pampinchalsindhi.



Lectures bale esthadu ee karri bum ...
 

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The United States condemns the terror attack in Barcelona, Spain, and will do whatever is necessary to help. Be tough & strong, we love you!
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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 10:33 pm:      

By the way monna Obama no body is born bad we have to teach them. Spain lo vunna jihadi gang ki cheppamani pampinchalsindhi.
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Left wing violence takkuva??
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Andhravodu:

1 person killed in a hate crime
Trump: This is a horrible incident
Newspoops: Why don't you call it what it is, it's terrorism




Newspoops ne replace it with almost everyone including GOP law makers anu....edo try chesav...at least be truthful :D
 

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Rocketk2:




Read this article.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/450551/confederate-sta tues-republicans-democrats-should-let-them-be

It explains left increased focus on confederate statues now.
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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 10:27 pm:      

Spain Pershing Confederate statues....endho yeedi pindaa koodu....veedi gurinchi discussions
 

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Moviebuff001:

So, we are on the same page.



Did i ever say that there's isn't any left extremism? its has been there for ever, along with right terrorism....especially in 70s mainly in the form of black panther movement...but naa post ne out of context lo tesukoni we are on same page ante ela?? Right wing extremist is there for very very long time, at least we can go back to booth killing Lincoln...aa taruvatha N number of elements like KKK were created and many non-whites were lynched.....Nuvvu vesina posts lo can I also concur that only right extremism exists? ledu kada...

Moviebuff001:

Is that a just reason for burning and looting cities and killing cops?



When is extremism justified?? probably never right...yes on this one I agree with you....there shouldn't be any violence in any form...but again there always fringe elements in every side....now but one thing i failed to understand is how you are skipping the stats that I have posts about right wing extremism...they are much more dangerous...killing cops or for that matter anyone shouldn't be condoned.....but purely on the stats POV...whites kill more cops than blacks do....

Let me ask the same question...just because some one has different colour and they ask for equal rights, what right does whites have to kills 100s of people.....

Moviebuff001:

Debatable. I don't have hard numbers. But I do believe there is inherent bias in perception.




Stats chupiste perception antunnava?? inka discussion enduku??? Are we living in Trump's land where stats don't matter anymore???
 

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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 10:20 pm:      

Average Joe: Mr Trump what is your policies on taxation, immigration, regulation and foreign affairs

Trump: Fake news

Dhoola theerio !!!
 

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He condemned unequivocally. Media did not like it because he also talked about left wing extremism. No matter what he says they want to prOve he is a racists.

If you don't believe that, either you are naive or acting along.

You argued that all people who came to protest are white supremasicts. Now it has been proven that ordinary women also travelled from Kansas.

Do you unequivocally say that there are kkk in the protest but not all of the protesters are them.
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Hadoop:
obul


reddy naidu em decide chesaav




obul khan
 

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obul




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Rocketk2:

Islamic terrorism is condmened ! They are scum on earth .. No ifs and buts.. let's get that out of the way!!


Edho tv show lo dialogue vundhi.. ' every thing you say before 'but' is horseshxt''. Ani..
so go back and watch that condemnation .. you will find lot of horse manure!!




show me one obul vidio saar.....i did not remember he said even after all us netizans gaggulu pettina......may be tump laaga oka saari emanna annademo telvadu...get the vidio of u r priyatam nayakudu
 

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Hadoop:

not...he condemned violence very strongly.... meeku kavalsina sentences vadaledu ani ...strong ledu ante ela.....malli same folks....isalamic terr ki name calling ani crying


Islamic terrorism is condmened ! They are scum on earth .. No ifs and buts.. let's get that out of the way!!


Edho tv show lo dialogue vundhi.. ' every thing you say before 'but' is horseshxt''. Ani..
so go back and watch that condemnation .. you will find lot of horse manure!!
 

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Andhravodu:

contrasting situation ragane, news raagam maarindi ani cheptunna


news ragam Emi Mara ledhu... mana chuse vidhanam marindhi..this is the ' creation of narrative ' you were alluding to yesterday:-)
The news was talking about inconsistencies in his response !! Pretty much same!!

Trump innocent and media is bad ani Chala strong ga believe chesinattu anipisthundhi( or may be you took a simpler position.. both are wrong.. I will comment whoever I want !)

I will tell you my opinion and leave it here.. No ..media is not there to get Trump. He is totally controlling his narrative . If he has closed this issue on Saturday with an 'unequivocal' condemnation .. media has nothing .
 

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Rocketk2:

Lets keep it simple. You believe trump's response to charlotsville incident is up to mark. Yes or No?




y not...he condemned violence very strongly.... meeku kavalsina sentences vadaledu ani ...strong ledu ante ela.....malli same folks....isalamic terr ki name calling ani crying......
 

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Rocketk2:

you went on record


court lo judgment pass chestunnara

sare record chestunnaru kabatti trump response should have been stronger on the first day. ide maata intaku mundu kooda pettanu

but contrasting situation ragane, news raagam maarindi ani cheptunna
 

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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 08:56 pm:      


Andhravodu:


either you don't understand or you like to troll(like your favorite character from 13th warrior)

Lets keep it simple. You believe trump's response to charlotsville incident is up to mark. Yes or No?
Either way , it won't make a difference for you and me .. just want to know you position

you went on record saying we can get internet links for anything !! So those mean nothing at this point.
 

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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 08:46 pm:      

1 person killed in a hate crime
Trump: This is a horrible incident
Newspoops: Why don't you call it what it is, it's terrorism

13 people dead
Trump: This is terrorism
poops: He calls this one terrorism, but didn't say that about the prior one

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/analysis-%e2%80%98ter ror%e2%80%99-struck-barcelona-according-to-trump-charlottesv ille-%e2%80%98call-it-whatever-you-want%e2%80%99/ar-AAqg4rt? li=BBnb7Kz
 

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Pete_sampras:

....I agree that there is left extremism as well



So, we are on the same page.


Pete_sampras:

it is raising especially after so much acquittals of cops



Is that a just reason for burning and looting cities and killing cops?


Pete_sampras:

but the numbers are no where near right wing extremism.



Debatable. I don't have hard numbers. But I do believe there is inherent bias in perception.
 

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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 08:19 pm:      

Whites ni evvaru superior anatledu. Vallu superior anukuni kondaru matram baaga hate chestunnaru. God bless amma.
 

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tellalists using vehicles as weapons..america ayina spain ayina tellalists shame to shame.
 

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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 06:01 pm:      

aadi matalu inaaka kuda aadini inka safaarting ante..you must really think white race is superior...what a pity.
 

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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 04:34 pm:      


Moviebuff001:

hat is your point?
Did I say they are not bad? Did I say they are not dangerous? How many people actually gathered in Charlottesville? Around 200?
In the last 12 years, this is the first rally they took. How many people were killed by these people? Only one incident comes to my mind at the black church. Other than this incident.

Extreme left matram riots, burning towns, killing cops....
Vishayam teliste explain cheyyi opika unte. Telusukunta.. yetakaram avasaram ledu.




Inda unchu...

https://www.thenation.com/article/why-does-the-far-right-hol d-a-near-monopoly-on-political-violence/

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics /terrorism-right-wing-america-muslims-islam-white-supremacis ts-study-a7805831.html

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/u-s-sees-300-violent-attacks- inspired-far-right-every-year/

http://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-1.791535

These are just examples...


you said only one incident comes to mind...so let me refresh you memory..

USA - Kansas racist shooting (2017).

USA - Planned Parenthood shooting (2015).

USA - Lafayette cinema shooting (2015).

These are some high profile cases from last 2 years...inka china chitaka chala untai....I agree that there is left extremism as well and it is raising especially after so much acquittals of cops but the numbers are no where near right wing extremism...
 

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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 02:42 pm:      


Masularex:

murica lo left wing extremism unda... news to me... ledante leni enemies ni create chestannara ?



you must have not been following news for quite a long time. see this about berkeley riot.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/446810/berkeley-riot-l eftist-mob-violence-undermines-rule-law

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/06/0 5/in-portland-images-of-knives-brass-knuckles-bricks-show-vi ciousness-of-protests/?utm_term=.b311ea03a68a

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Masularex:

murica lo left wing extremism unda... news to me... ledante leni enemies ni create chestannara ?




Anti-facist movements unaayi but they were mostly non systemic, but things are changing.
 

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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 02:20 pm:      

murica lo left wing extremism unda... news to me... ledante leni enemies ni create chestannara ?
 

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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 02:19 pm:      


Tadi_mattayya:

The sources you quoted are very well know for their bias



everybody has bias. lenidhi evariki. i quoted those so that there is clarity in the message i am trying to post. not that you will accept at its face value and change your opinion
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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 02:18 pm:      


Rocketk2:

There is a white elephant in room ani memu antunte. There is door , there is windows ani argue .. see I am right ante Emi cheppali!!



you got it wrong. we already said white elephant is there and then window and door. mere elephant daggare agipoyaru. anyhow its beaten topic. time will judge if trump is right or wrong.
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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 02:00 pm:      


Jai_ycp:

calling rocket2 and others,

nenu ante godava chesaru. see the excerpts from time


memu godava chesina points meeru address chesthe godavemundhi .. this is what trump is doing and you are echoing ..
There is a white elephant in room ani memu antunte. There is door , there is windows ani argue .. see I am right ante Emi cheppali!!
 

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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 01:58 pm:      


Jai_ycp:




The sources you quoted are very well know for their bias...also all of this simply boils down to Trump appeasing his voter base.there by staying in power in second term as well.
 

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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 01:57 pm:      

The federalist, the conservative America, ippudu evaro huffpost thestharu, thevaya? Trump is reaping fruits let him reap and see how good the fruits will be in 2020
 

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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 01:47 pm:      

continuation.........

Trump had committed the unpardonable sin, in their eyes, of denouncing left wing extremism. Those who watched video of the event could see, quite plainly, that the antifa were intent on instigating violence, far more than the LARPing Nazis or pathetic Klansmen.

In his sometimes clumsy way, Trump was making the same point as New York Times reporter Sheryl Gay Stolberg, who was on the ground in Charlottesville covering the event. She noticed that the far left counter-protesters were intent on instigating violence and tweeted that âthe hard left seemed as hate-filled as the alt-right. I saw club-wielding âantifaâ beating white nationalists being led out of the park.â Later, perhaps sensing she was in danger of transgressing some sort of unofficial party line, she amended her thought. She added that the leftists were âviolent, not hate-filled. They were standing up to hate.â Of course, âstanding up to hateâ (of whites) is exactly what the alt right would say they are doing as well.

Stolbergâs original tweet, and her need to amend it, are telling. There has been a huge upsurge in left wing violence during the past year. At one extreme, a Bernie Sanders volunteer recently tried to murder the GOP congressional leadership, severely wounding Congressman Steve Salise. Murders of police officers are accelerating, in some cases cold blooded assassinations by Black Lives Matter supporters. Right wing speakers such as Ann Coulter, Milo Yiannopoulos, Charles Murray and Ben Shapiro are regularly preventedâby violenceâfrom speaking on college campuses. Pro-Trump rallies have been cancelled under threat of leftist violence in âtolerantâ Portland. Those attending a pro-Trump inaugural ball, âthe Deploraball,â were pelted by batteries and bottles and chants of âNazi Scumâ by the same antifa who were protesting in Charlotte. (My wife and I were among those targeted). The Deploraball organizers had in fact gone to considerable lengths to bar white nationalists from involvement in the planning or speaking; it was a pro-Trump, multicultural, and multiracial celebration. But for the antifa, and the vast swarm of left wing social justice warriors, any kind of Trump supporter is âNazi Scumâ by definition, people whose First Amendment rights to speak and gather should be denied.
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Another article about why trump was right
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/what-trump-g ot-right-about-charlottesville/

First, the transmission of facts, which might be the essential point of journalism. Trump approached the Trump Tower podium Tuesday afternoon hoping to talk about infrastructure. The media wanted to talk about Charlottesville (ignoring, not surprisingly, Chicago, where nine people were murdered over the weekend).

The meat of Trumpâs answer can be broken down into parts. First, he praised the young woman who was murdered, called the driver who ran her over a disgrace to his country, wasnât certain of the semantics whether he should be accused of terrorism or murder.

Second, he asked a reporter for a definition of the alt-right, a term probably as imprecise as âsocialistââand perhaps a reasonable way of expressing uncertainty about the actual center of gravity of a seemingly elastic group that includes such disparate ideological figures as Trumpâs own American nationalist aide Steve Bannon, the white nationalist Richard Spencer, and the neo-Nazis Spencer has invited into his tent. Third, he reaffirmed the statement he made on Saturday, condemning in the strongest possible terms bigotry and violence.

Then he fatefully threw out the red meat, denouncing what he called the âalt left,â or âAntifa,â which showed up in Charlottesville, without a permit, intending, as was evident to anyone paying attention to the groupâs past actions, on physically attacking those attending the alt-right demonstration. He reiterated his previous statement that there was âblame on both sides.â He repeated his disdain for âneo-Nazis and white nationalists,â saying they should be âcondemned totally.â Then he noted that some people had come simply to protest the taking down of the Robert E. Lee statue, erected over a hundred years ago.

So how did the media report this message, in which he singled out for condemnation white nationalists and neo-Nazis, lamented the violence on both sides, and posited that many people involved were âfine peopleâ demonstrating for relatively normal thingsâthat is, for the maintenance of a statue, or protesting against the alt-rightâs bigotry?

It was hard to miss. Headline after headline streaming on the news chyrons on CNN and MSNBC asserted that Trump had defended Nazis, while the transcript (and a video) shows plainly and unambiguously he had done nothing of the sort. Commentators on the two major cable channels were hysterical, some guests labeling Trump a white supremacist, wondering why Jared and Ivanka or the minority members of his administration had not abandoned him. A New York Times story records the âchillsâ experienced by Chuck Todd upon hearing Trump, the shock of Jake Tapper.
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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 01:42 pm:      


Mental_sachinodu:



just read this article. they are an answer to your assessment of why trump actions are not helping.

http://thefederalist.com/2017/08/17/trump-spoke-truth-sides- charlottesville-media-lost-minds/#.WZWLloPs7MI.twitter
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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 01:37 pm:      


Mental_sachinodu:

you either did not read what i posted or just trolling.



your posts and mine are out of sync in time. anyhow bye.
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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 01:36 pm:      


Time_pass:

There are no Hitler statutes in Germany but yet his history is taught
Slavery is same as what he did
We do not need statutes for them



no body is asking for new statues. local bodies have every right to take them away. people can protest. thats all to it.

where does it stop.

Now gay marriage is considered okay. i am sure lincoln would not have appreciate that. should we take that away. there wont be any monuments for anyone.
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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 01:33 pm:      


Mental_sachinodu:

but im expecting the president to realize that his actions are not helping, even his cause



that time will tell. right now media wants to get trump to say what it feel is right. but thats not the truth. so trump took a stand. that's like dany saying bend the knee first before i agree to help to Jon in GOT parlance.

trump stand would have made lot of people who see heritage and pride in confederate solider monuments feel great again. By condemning violence and taking strongest action that can be against perpetrator, he made opposite group happy. media does not agree.
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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 01:33 pm:      

There are no Hitler statutes in Germany but yet his history is taught
Slavery is same as what he did
We do not need statutes for them
 

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Jai_ycp:

one who are effected by slavery long tiem ago
one whose forefather fought in a war not justifiable under today's standards but was at that time. unless you think every confederate solider was out to get blacks in an evil and cruel way.

trump did the right healing. we cannot blame the children of these confederate warriors as criminals, fascists, nazi for just wanting to remember their heritage and culture. no they don't want to continue those practices.

on the other side a group who was dormant for 70-80 years suddenly realizes they feel offended and want to denounce them.




dude, my last post.

I did not question Presidents intention, but im questioning his action. did it really solve the issue? you either did not read what i posted or just trolling.
 

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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 01:26 pm:      


Jai_ycp:

president thinks both are the problem. any help starts with self realization. the day left and its supporters self realizes it, we can start healing.




like i said, did it help the cause he was trying for? im not questioning his intent, im talking about the result. you are expecting someone to self realize, but im expecting the president to realize that his actions are not helping, even his cause.
 

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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 01:24 pm:      


Mental_sachinodu:



there are two groups.
one who are effected by slavery long tiem ago
one whose forefather fought in a war not justifiable under today's standards but was at that time. unless you think every confederate solider was out to get blacks in an evil and cruel way.

trump did the right healing. we cannot blame the children of these confederate warriors as criminals, fascists, nazi for just wanting to remember their heritage and culture. no they don't want to continue those practices.

on the other side a group who was dormant for 70-80 years suddenly realizes they feel offended and want to denounce them.
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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 01:23 pm:      


Jai_ycp:


lagatamu emundhi. it is the key point. you are saying they want people to be killed at these rallies. it ascertains they have pre-meditation which amounts to first degree murder. it is important. so why there is no precedent antunna for wanting to kill. skirmishes that happened in birthday party wont justify your statement of "want to kill".




vunkl, may be i should stop responding to you. nenu cheppedhi okati nuvvu ardham chesukonedhi inkokati.. chass thats mom.. i give up, i already gave my view.

Jai_ycp:


inkevaru alt-right? nuvvu first define cheyyi. appudu blame cheyyi. just like alt-left it is loosely based congregation of various extreme views.




nen define chesedhi endhi.. Richard spencer already defined it.,


Jai_ycp:

I was talking about organization. you are talking about individual. you only referred about people in blm has issues but as an organization it does not. doesn't it apply here



i am talking about the person who coined the term and recruits for this purpose. I am talking about the person who runs the organization with alt-right ideology he coined. not the followers of the groups.

Jai_ycp:

system will stop them. the actions on the perpetrator weren't satisfactory for you. i just posted a times article about normal people going for confederate rally.



again, where did i say that all the protestors against confederate statues are violent. neeku nenu vesina matter konchem kooda ardham kaledhi ani ardham ayyindhi...

Jai_ycp:

your intent is different but you are equating them


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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 01:23 pm:      

Orangutan the animal in the center of all these trump kamikazi is being searched by army team, probably around Kenya
I like to get facts before posting anything .
 

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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 01:21 pm:      


Mental_sachinodu:

If president thinks that Left is the problem, did anything of president's act help his cause? or rather, what act of president help?



president thinks both are the problem. any help starts with self realization. the day left and its supporters self realizes it, we can start healing.
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Mental_sachinodu:

dude, there is no argument here. edho lagaali ani laaguthunaavu.. if they



lagatamu emundhi. it is the key point. you are saying they want people to be killed at these rallies. it ascertains they have pre-meditation which amounts to first degree murder. it is important. so why there is no precedent antunna for wanting to kill. skirmishes that happened in birthday party wont justify your statement of "want to kill".


Mental_sachinodu:

when did i say alt-right is KKK? what is your point?



inkevaru alt-right? nuvvu first define cheyyi. appudu blame cheyyi. just like alt-left it is loosely based congregation of various extreme views.

Mental_sachinodu:

there are books on it by Richard Spencer



I was talking about organization. you are talking about individual. you only referred about people in blm has issues but as an organization it does not. doesn't it apply here

Mental_sachinodu:

so are you saying this long list of white supremacists while stop the other white supremacists who are ok with the violence? Im talking the group that was involved in the rally.



system will stop them. the actions on the perpetrator weren't satisfactory for you. i just posted a times article about normal people going for confederate rally.

Mental_sachinodu:

i gave examples of statements that undermine the message they are supposed to perpetrate.



your intent is different but you are equating them
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might be you dont want to be helped. left group should self introspect first which they cant hence the problem




Left will do what it does, Right will do what it does, but the president has is own obligation. Its not about what others are doing, its about how president is handling the issue. If president thinks that Left is the problem, did anything of president's act help his cause? or rather, what act of president help?
 

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Jai_ycp:

10172




What is there ? A opinion from one sad KS lady? Come on accept this guy is a disaster and move on . His presidency is one disaster after other he started bickering about crowd size, rain, couldn't pass health care, lashed out at news anchors, couldn't get Mexico to pay for wall , didn't increase coal production, didn't change immigration, no plan on tax vote. Disaster after disaster . Will he at least draw a plan for peaceful ethnic cleansing ????
 

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So slavery was *not* the core issue of the war?
 

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Jai_ycp:



40 - 50 million over the years during British time. How many is too many? - For Bose, Nazis are not the main show and Freedom of his people was the goal.

So slavery was the core issue of the war?
 

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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 01:09 pm:      


Teenmaar:



see my post no: 10172.

Nuvvu agree chesina lekapoina, all people who support statues of confederate soliders are not racists. kikiki.
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Lichtenberg:

do you know how many Indians died in artificial famines created by the brits?



really 6o million people died? india population entha?

Lichtenberg:

A lot of companies in US and germany did business with Nazis



Bose chesindhi business aa fight aa

Lichtenberg:

the core issue is slavery and that is why people oppose who fouhgt for it.



this is the history of how and when states seceeded
When did the Southern states secede from the Union?
South Carolina - December 20, 1860
Mississippi - January 9, 1861
Florida - January 10, 1861
Alabama - January 11, 1861
Georgia - January 19, 1861
Louisiana - January 26, 1861
Texas - February 1, 1861
Virginia - April 17, 1861
Arkansas - May 6, 1861
North Carolina - May 20, 1861
Tennessee - June 8, 1861

issuance of the Emancipation Proclamation in done in September 1862 to boost support from the slaves.
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Jai_ycp:


if they want people to be killed in thier rallies, show me when its done. vandalized little girls party, contained ivi enduku.



dude, there is no argument here. edho lagaali ani laaguthunaavu.. if they

Jai_ycp:

is there an organization that claimed there are alt-right. alagaithe KKK is also not alt-right. it was there long before richard spencer.



when did i say alt-right is KKK? what is your point?

Jai_ycp:

show me the manifesto of alt-right too. what agenda they have loot, destory. we will high percentage of criminals but dont stop and frisk aa



whatt? there are books on it by Richard Spencer.

Jai_ycp:

sagamu news chusthe elaga? i will give the link. give me sometime. i read it where long list of known white supremacists condemned the violence.



so are you saying this long list of white supremacists while stop the other white supremacists who are ok with the violence? Im talking the group that was involved in the rally.


Jai_ycp:


you gave an example of false equivalency. i used the same example but switched actors anthe.



i did not give an equivalency for it be false with. i gave examples of statements that undermine the message they are supposed to perpetrate.

anyway - what is your end point? just refute my statements?
 

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Spain attack, some bad people among good ones rammed bus on pedestrians
 

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calling rocket2 and others,

nenu ante godava chesaru. see the excerpts from time

The Times reported Wednesday evening:

âGood people can go to Charlottesville,â said Michelle Piercy, a night shift worker at a Wichita, Kan., retirement home, who drove all night with a conservative group that opposed the planned removal of a statue of the Confederate general Robert E. Lee.

After listening to Mr. Trump on Tuesday, she said it was as if he had channeled her and her friends â all gun-loving defenders of free speech, she said, who had no interest in standing with Nazis or white supremacists: âItâs almost like he talked to one of our people.â

Conservatives like Ms. Piercy, who have grown only more emboldened after Charlottesville, believe that the political and media elite hold them and Mr. Trump to a harsh double standard that demands they answer for the sins of a radical, racist fringe. They largely accept Mr. Trumpâs contention that these same forces are using Charlottesville as an excuse to undermine his presidency, and by extension, their vote.
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Jai_ycp:

do you even know how many people dies in second world war. why he sided with fascist forces whop believed in exterminating people thats dont agree with him.




do you know how many Indians died in artificial famines created by the brits? Stop your assumptions that others don't know history.

https://www.amazon.com/Churchills-Secret-War-British-Ravagin g/dp/0465024815/


slavery was the core issue and he fought for it. A lot of companies in US and germany did business with Nazis(Ford, GM, BMW, Chase Bank, IBM) - Nobody today says they should bring down these companies because biz with Nazis was not their core biz - it is one of the sideshows. But in the civil war - the core issue is slavery and that is why people oppose who fouhgt for it.
 

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Mental_sachinodu:

but in the end, President did not help anyone here.



might be you dont want to be helped. left group should self introspect first which they cant hence the problem
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Mental_sachinodu:

Opiniated how? what were the comments of grand dragon James Moore? He openly said someone got killed during the rally and he said he was proud of the person who drove the car on the people.

Their ideology needs to be condemned whether they are violent or not. Like i have already mentioned 6 months back, they vandalized a little girls party, and at another rally stone mountain Georgia, their rally caused violent outburst was contained immediately.




if they want people to be killed in thier rallies, show me when its done. vandalized little girls party, contained ivi enduku.


Mental_sachinodu:

again, you seem to ignore or have no clue how these terms came into existence. Alt-Right movement was coined by extreme Right conservative with a racist bias. The word was coined by Richard Spencer, who is a white supremacist, its a name given to the ideology by themselves, while alt-left is a conjured word, where no such ideology ever existed. If you are saying AntiFa is alt-left, it is again not a term coined by AntiFa themselves, its the ones who are trying to find an alternative legitimate group to Alt-Right, whose members are proud to be alt-right.



is there an organization that claimed there are alt-right. alagaithe KKK is also not alt-right. it was there long before richard spencer.

Mental_sachinodu:

Alt-right exits and BLM exists. BLM is violent, but their agenda is not against a particular race, individuals might comment otherwise,ALT-RIGHT has manifesto and BLM has a manifesto,you can read them online.



show me the manifesto of alt-right too. what agenda they have loot, destory. we will high percentage of criminals but dont stop and frisk aa

Mental_sachinodu:

who is everybody? Im talking about White Supremacist response to the violence. like i said, the grand dragon of the group itself praised the act of killing the girl. who are you and i oppose to their groups statements?



sagamu news chusthe elaga? i will give the link. give me sometime. i read it where long list of known white supremacists condemned the violence.

Mental_sachinodu:

not sure what this means.



you gave an example of false equivalency. i used the same example but switched actors anthe.
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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 12:55 pm:      


Jai_ycp:

Again bullshit. president condemned unequivocally. he said ther eis worng on left side too. that caused trouble.




I will not add more here as this is a matter of perspective. it might appear to you as unequivocal, but its not to me, and most others. Again, you might say most others are wrong, but it does not matter, your opinion is as valid as mine. but in the end, President did not help anyone here.
 

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ilsamic terror attack
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/barcelona-terror-attack-van-plo ws-pedestrians-live-updates/

dhenemma judges, left kalisi addamiana gang ni testhunnaru country loki. after 20 years manaku idhe parsthithi.
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Jai_ycp:

very opinionated. ippati daka white superamicts rally lo violence ekkada jaragaledhu.




Opiniated how? what were the comments of grand dragon James Moore? He openly said someone got killed during the rally and he said he was proud of the person who drove the car on the people.

Their ideology needs to be condemned whether they are violent or not. Like i have already mentioned 6 months back, they vandalized a little girls party, and at another rally stone mountain Georgia, their rally caused violent outburst was contained immediately.


Jai_ycp:

extreme right is alt-right. extreme left positions are alt-left. LGBT case kada nunchi enni extreme positions vunnayi.



again, you seem to ignore or have no clue how these terms came into existence. Alt-Right movement was coined by extreme Right conservative with a racist bias. The word was coined by Richard Spencer, who is a white supremacist, its a name given to the ideology by themselves, while alt-left is a conjured word, where no such ideology ever existed. If you are saying AntiFa is alt-left, it is again not a term coined by AntiFa themselves, its the ones who are trying to find an alternative legitimate group to Alt-Right, whose members are proud to be alt-right.


Jai_ycp:

Bullshit and big balooney. has this guy even went to a BLM rally. "Kill the pigs" and "white trash" meedha vella open ga songs padatha vuntaru. ther eis no real group as Alt-right too.



lol, you lost it here. Alt-right exits and BLM exists. BLM is violent, but their agenda is not against a particular race, individuals might comment otherwise,ALT-RIGHT has manifesto and BLM has a manifesto,you can read them online.


Jai_ycp:


again bullshiot and balooney. everybody condemned violence.



who is everybody? Im talking about White Supremacist response to the violence. like i said, the grand dragon of the group itself praised the act of killing the girl. who are you and i oppose to their groups statements?


Jai_ycp:

we think tha lat right group is russia and hindus where as left is nazi and islamic terrorism



not sure what this means.
 

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Lichtenberg:

Number of Indians killed by Britain >>> No. of people killed by Nazis. Even if you take this count, you cannot fault Bose.



. do you even know how many people dies in second world war. why he sided with fascist forces whop believed in exterminating people thats dont agree with him.

Lee fought for south whose economy would have been shattered with slavery abolition. I am not saying lee is right on terms of slavery. he did what he did to protect the south that he knows it.

i am not equating both bose and lee here. i am saying that people take different steps and just because their cause was bad as per today's standards, you don't take away the honor from them.
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Jai_ycp:


âWeâre even allowed to do that Thomas Jefferson and George Washington,â he added. âWeâre allowed to. Theyâre not off the table for discussion. I think itâs a great question.â

Most progressive country, just by changing statues
 

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Jai_ycp:

the cause you fight might be incorrect




The cause for which Bose fought was not incorrect. He fought for freedom of his own people - a lofty cause. Number of Indians killed by Britain >>> No. of people killed by Nazis. Even if you take this count, you cannot fault Bose.

'slavery is moral and good for blacks' - this is the cause espoused by Lee. You celebrate people with lofty ideas, not Lees or Aurangzebs
 

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http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/08/17/donald-tr ump-defends-monuments-you-cant-change-history/

kummu trump.

chudu already alt left gang start chesaru about george washington

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Lichtenberg:

hat does it prove? He opposed confederate monuments - then toppling his statue should be fine, no? The war was about slavery - this was the core issue of the war, not some sideshow. He fought for that core issue.




it talks about him as the leader. i gave an example of bose. was bose a nazi as he partnered with evil japan empire who committed numerous atrocities across pacific ocean.

abolition of slavery is the culmination for the civil war but is not the only reason. you have to study and understand why southern states wanted to secede at that time.

my point is simple,. the cause you fight might be incorrect but that does not make you bad people. confederate army has men of character and fought bravely. if thier kin and communities want to remember their heritage, cribbing on them is BS.
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Rocketk2:

I am addressing to you because you are starting lo look at this event as an genuine rally with some 'bad people' in it .



No way. Ekkada ala cheppanu? Quote cheyyandi. I will take it back. may be meeru prejudice to choostunnaru na posts.
 

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idendukochindi? Assalu ardam kaledu.... Evadu support chesadu veellani? If anything, I said, they can be controlled as the numbers are low.
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all this was part of chants on Friday. I am not saying you or anyone from here supports that .
But what I was explaining to you is the nature of that rally . It has very little to do with statue. Aa Peru pettukoni jaruguthunna bagavatham vere vundhi... Check the video posted by risingstar.
I am addressing to you because you are starting lo look at this event as an genuine rally with some 'bad people' in it . That is not true. The intent of this rally was very well established if we step out of partisan politics and look at it.

Again , I should kept quiet and let someone like M_S continue this discussion . He provided clarity and has credibility .


The evil that use to lurk in dark corners of internet is starting to make way into mainstream. Doesn't matter which side it is from. We should stop trying to figure that and 'unequivocally ' oppose it. That was the gist of my message
 

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Mental_sachinodu:

White Supremacists - they are an organization trying to recruit and increase their foot print, and their agenda is purely racially motivated. Infact they do not care about Confederate symbols as much as other conservatives. What I mean by this is, there are alot of conservatives who are white and black people who treat confederate symbols as of historical value of USA, but they are not racially biased. White Supremacists and Neo Nazi groups are using these symbols as a way to make statements and cause disharmony, to recruit for their cause,




idhi ok.

Mental_sachinodu:

like most terrorist organizations. If you see the statements coming from David Duke and others its apparent that they are glad such violence has occured. its an open statement from them. They are glad that protestors were there and they made the rally violent, they are glad that they got to kill someone here.



very opinionated. ippati daka white superamicts rally lo violence ekkada jaragaledhu.

Mental_sachinodu:

ut here the word Alt-Left has been created, just to show that there is an equivalent to Alt-Right on the otherside, there by forming an equivalent movement of sorts on the other side. To me Alt-left does not exist. There is BLM, there is Anti-Fa, but they are not together, and have no common ideology to be labeled as Alt-Left



extreme right is alt-right. extreme left positions are alt-left. LGBT case kada nunchi enni extreme positions vunnayi.

Mental_sachinodu:

BLM had violent protests, and their fight wasnt against a particular race, but a system where a perceived persecution of black folk, by the police. There were examples for their cause. Again, I want to make clear that Im not with BLM, but merely pointing out BLM movement is not against ordinary folk white or black. where as white supremacist fight is against other races, as long as they do not infringe on others rights, they should be allowed to pursue their agenda, but the movement itself is based on "protecting their race" from other "races", even if it means taking violent action against even ordinary folk. HERE IS WHERE I FIND A DISTURBING TREND, IF YOU ARE AGAINST WHITE SUPREMACIST GROUPS, AND YOU WANT TO PROTEST AGAINST THEM, YOU WILL BE LABELED ALT-LEFT, AND THERE IS NO SUCH REAL GROUP.



Bullshit and big balooney. has this guy even went to a BLM rally. "Kill the pigs" and "white trash" meedha vella open ga songs padatha vuntaru. ther eis no real group as Alt-right too.

Mental_sachinodu:

WHITE SUPREMACSITS came to this rally expecting/hoping there would be violence, and that is what they got, and they are glad it happened. You wont hear a word of regret or statement that they did not want the violence to happen. Same goes with protests that are carried out by ANTIFA movements. both use violence as a recruitment tool for their cause.



again bullshiot and balooney. everybody condemned violence.

Mental_sachinodu:

Again - you dont have to belong to ANTIFA or BLM to protest against White Supremacist, but right now in the current environment if you do, you will be labeled as one. this division is something the white supremacists need to further their agenda, and the only regret in this episode i have is the president of USA helping to further this division. Yes he condemned violence, Yes he condemned both sides, but his message will not get through. When you are condemning a violent group, you have to be unequivocal for its affect.




Again bullshit. president condemned unequivocally. he said ther eis worng on left side too. that caused trouble.

Mental_sachinodu:

f you want to condemn Nazis' but say violence happens on all sides, Nazis are evil but what about the Russian communist regime. yes both are bad, but now, the point about nazi's gets diluted.

If you want to condemn Islamic terrorism, but say Terrorism is bad, islamic terrorism is bad, but also Terrorism has no religion and what about hindu terrorism, the message about islamic terrorism gets diluted.




we think tha lat right group is russia and hindus where as left is nazi and islamic terrorism
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Mental_sachinodu summarized the situation perfectly +1
 

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Hillary batch gave an opening for Trump by calling anyone from dem side opposing Billary alt-left. Vaadu alt-left alt-right okate ani kummesaadu
 

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Rocketk2:

When some one is talking about ethnic cleansing, we should not stand next to them.



idendukochindi? Assalu ardam kaledu.... Evadu support chesadu veellani? If anything, I said, they can be controlled as the numbers are low.
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Rocketk2:

Partisanship is one thing.. but trying to justify evil is totally another thing.



That mom. Idendukochindi madyalo? Evil ni justify evadu chesadu....
 

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http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/here%E2%80%99s-what-robert- e-lee-thought-about-confederate-monuments/ar-AAqdaUZ?li=BBnb 7Kz&ocid=mailsignout




What does it prove? He opposed confederate monuments - then toppling his statue should be fine, no? The war was about slavery - this was the core issue of the war, not some sideshow. He fought for that core issue.
 

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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 11:43 am:      


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agree with almost everything. but idi doubt ye naaku, on paper lekapoyina would not be surprised if they collaborate.


you are looking at this with made up mind . Antifa would be totally irrelevant . Like M_S said , the response to charlotsville incidents make these kind of rogue groups relevant again. When antifa creates violence they should be 'unequivocally' shunned. Why should that even be a question ??
Naxalism was need of the hour when feudalism was causing all kinds of atrocities . What is it today?? Bunch of thugs blackmailing people for money. It's not the word naxalite that carries meaning . It's their relevance to current society
 

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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 11:32 am:      


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the last 12 years, this is the first rally they took. How many people were killed by these people? Only one incident comes to my mind at the black church. Other than this incident.


brother, these things were always happening . But they were extremely smaller in number and magnitude . There is a significant rise in activity over last few months . The recruiting drive has started

Partisanship is one thing.. but trying to justify evil is totally another thing. When some one is talking about ethnic cleansing, we should not stand next to them. several years back I was at a bob dole meeting when similar chants were being made in one section of crowd. Bob stopped the meeting and said 'I don't need you support. If anyone feel that way ..Get out of here'. Those kind of public shunning will keep such evil to minimal numbers ..the will back off. If that hatred is fed .. it will lead to very bad consequences. The history in question is only 50 yr old!!

This is not media making Trump life miserable. The evil lurking behind these are waiting for oppurtunity. We can't let our guard down for partisan reasons and justify them.
 

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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 11:22 am:      


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I 100% agree with you. Every single i attempt I made in this thread is in alignment with one or many points you mentioned. Unfortunately, they get. Sidetracked due to position I have taken in previous election

The president screwed this up... self inflicted is all it was. When such incidents happen president need to be a unifier than look like he is taking a side .

It has nothing to do with conservatives or liberals . Dems and repubs!!

Antifa is no saint . It's existence start during fascist times when there was a need. There is no fascism prevalanent now to have a group with this tag. This is how divisiveness starts and gets fed. That is the intent of the hate groups

Check this article on counter protests.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/08/14/us/who-were-the-counte rprotesters-in-charlottesville.html
 

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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 10:54 am:      


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inkaa aa g.y conservative/altR evado speech istunnad ani universities daggara violence start chesindi antifa. petrol bombs esaaru , lucky that there are no victims.




yes like i said, they are a violent group, and they are already known to law enforcement as such. ANTIFA is an autonomous group, meaning they dont have david dukes, there are gangs of people who commit violence.
 

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Moviebuff001:

In the last 12 years, this is the first rally they took.




lol... in southern states, their rallies happen quite a bit. this is a rally as a response to some event happening so it got reported.

GA lo last one year lo i know of atleast 6 rallies. in one rally, a white supremacist group went to black girl kid( i think a 5 yr old)birthday party and vandalized the party. ofcourse the perpetrators are serving jail time. but just saying, they are not so uncommon.
 

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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 10:49 am:      


Mental_sachinodu:

ANTIFA has nothing to do with BLM




agree with almost everything. but idi doubt ye naaku, on paper lekapoyina would not be surprised if they collaborate.

inkaa aa g.y conservative/altR evado speech istunnad ani universities daggara violence start chesindi antifa. petrol bombs esaaru , lucky that there are no victims.

this does not diminish the latest incident, but antifa has potential. they are not as organized as the militia groups(k batch). and punching a nazi ani seppi random candidates in k rally vallani kottadam, daanni intellect sangham cheer cheyatam was terrible. these are all isolate incidents, but as you said tellal recruiting ki ilativi baga paniki vastaai.
 

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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 10:48 am:      


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eedu first nunchi anti ne bedaru...right from the time when he disinvited the dump from some meet in atl.




I like Erikson because he calls spade a spade... he praises Trump when he does something in line with conservative principles, and disses him when he does against those same principles.
 

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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 10:34 am:      

In my view - most folks who are looking at this issue are picking the wrong side of arguments. Stuck with partisan views. Yes there are bad people every where, good people every where, violent people every where. We can always pick bring a counter argument and defend almost anything, unless we take ourselves out of the analysis.

1) White Supremacists - they are an organization trying to recruit and increase their foot print, and their agenda is purely racially motivated. Infact they do not care about Confederate symbols as much as other conservatives. What I mean by this is, there are alot of conservatives who are white and black people who treat confederate symbols as of historical value of USA, but they are not racially biased. White Supremacists and Neo Nazi groups are using these symbols as a way to make statements and cause disharmony, to recruit for their cause, like most terrorist organizations. If you see the statements coming from David Duke and others its apparent that they are glad such violence has occured. its an open statement from them. They are glad that protestors were there and they made the rally violent, they are glad that they got to kill someone here.

2) Anyone who is opposing white supremacists is being attempted as alt-left. Now how did this term form? Alt-Right as a group was formed by a fringe f right wing and they named themselves as Alt-Right, no one outside has named them as Alt-Right. But here the word Alt-Left has been created, just to show that there is an equivalent to Alt-Right on the otherside, there by forming an equivalent movement of sorts on the other side. To me Alt-left does not exist. There is BLM, there is Anti-Fa, but they are not together, and have no common ideology to be labeled as Alt-Left

3) It is not right to go by the amount of violence to understand the dangers of any group. Example - BLM had violent protests, and their fight wasnt against a particular race, but a system where a perceived persecution of black folk, by the police. There were examples for their cause. Again, I want to make clear that Im not with BLM, but merely pointing out BLM movement is not against ordinary folk white or black. where as white supremacist fight is against other races, as long as they do not infringe on others rights, they should be allowed to pursue their agenda, but the movement itself is based on "protecting their race" from other "races", even if it means taking violent action against even ordinary folk. HERE IS WHERE I FIND A DISTURBING TREND, IF YOU ARE AGAINST WHITE SUPREMACIST GROUPS, AND YOU WANT TO PROTEST AGAINST THEM, YOU WILL BE LABELED ALT-LEFT, AND THERE IS NO SUCH REAL GROUP.

4) Like I have mentioned earlier, ANTIFA has nothing to do with BLM, and BLM has nothing to do with ANTIFA, atleast until recently. ANTIFA and NeoNazi groups have been at going at each other for decades. ANTIFA agenda is primarily against NeoNazis . ANTIFA is as violent in nature as white supremacists have been, and it is evident that law enforcement sees them as such - to the extent that, in march of this year, their protests have been shutdown in Phili and LA. I will give an example on how clashes happen all the time between these groups, in Minnesota and NY, teens belonging to ANTIFA movement have been assaulted by NeoNazi groups over the past two months.

5) WHITE SUPREMACSITS came to this rally expecting/hoping there would be violence, and that is what they got, and they are glad it happened. You wont hear a word of regret or statement that they did not want the violence to happen. Same goes with protests that are carried out by ANTIFA movements. both use violence as a recruitment tool for their cause.

Again - you dont have to belong to ANTIFA or BLM to protest against White Supremacist, but right now in the current environment if you do, you will be labeled as one. this division is something the white supremacists need to further their agenda, and the only regret in this episode i have is the president of USA helping to further this division. Yes he condemned violence, Yes he condemned both sides, but his message will not get through. When you are condemning a violent group, you have to be unequivocal for its affect.

If you want to condemn Nazis' but say violence happens on all sides, Nazis are evil but what about the Russian communist regime. yes both are bad, but now, the point about nazi's gets diluted.

If you want to condemn Islamic terrorism, but say Terrorism is bad, islamic terrorism is bad, but also Terrorism has no religion and what about hindu terrorism, the message about islamic terrorism gets diluted.

The president simply screwed this up, by the way he handled this issue. Now White supremacists are happy because of the division and confusion, and there is a danger that more folks might get attracted to ANTIFA movement, with perceived elation in white supremacist camp. NO ONE WORTH GOT ANY BENEFIT OUT OF THIS SITUATION, and two bad groups gained. thats the point we need to understand.
 

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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 10:26 am:      

many people in this thread bashed about lee. see his comments after the war

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/here%E2%80%99s-what-robert- e-lee-thought-about-confederate-monuments/ar-AAqdaUZ?li=BBnb 7Kz&ocid=mailsignout

just becausde he fought on the other side vadu durmargudu dustudu vadi stataue vundakoodadhu lanti VP arguments cheyyakandi
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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 09:17 am:      


Pete_sampras:

sorry but had to post this



What is your point?
Did I say they are not bad? Did I say they are not dangerous? How many people actually gathered in Charlottesville? Around 200?
In the last 12 years, this is the first rally they took. How many people were killed by these people? Only one incident comes to my mind at the black church. Other than this incident.

Extreme left matram riots, burning towns, killing cops....
Vishayam teliste explain cheyyi opika unte. Telusukunta.. yetakaram avasaram ledu.
 

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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 06:38 am:      


Moviebuff001:

Alt right can be counted in hundreds or thousands. Can be controlled if required. But not extreme left.



Moviebuff001:

Attage denial lo undandi.



sorry but had to post this :D
 

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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 06:32 am:      


Teenmaar:

alt left destroying a beach with out permission



Attage denial lo undandi. Extreme left is very very dangerous. That alone can be the reason for complete downfall of this country. Alt right can be counted in hundreds or thousands. Can be controlled if required. But not extreme left.
 

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http://i.imgur.com/MzeAfUz.jpg

alt left destroying a beach with out permission
 

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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 01:22 am:      


Rocketk2:

Russian bots beg to differ!!




The most famous Russian bot, infiltrated the opponent camp.
and leaked all the secrets and ensured trump win.



that bot is called hillary alias billary :D
 

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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 12:48 am:      


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ekkada mana kalalona? Media said he was unfit and will never became president. Establishment republicans and Wall Street did the same. He won on his own merit.

Even today it's the same. Let's see if people stand with him in 2018/2020
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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 12:28 am:      


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No body made trump. N


Russian bots beg to differ!!
 

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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 12:16 am:      

No body made trump. Not media neither establishment republicans or Wall Street. Trump made himself. He will be undone by himself only.
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Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2017 - 11:16 pm:      


Mental_sachinodu:

Erikson too.




eedu first nunchi anti ne bedaru...right from the time when he disinvited the dump from some meet in atl.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2017 - 10:48 pm:      


Guriginja:

hatity batch




Strangely Hannity started talking against Trump(especially on healthcare). Erikson too.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2017 - 10:39 pm:      

siggu saram maanam maryada vunnoluu aadi nunchi duranga vellippthunnaru..rush rust lanti shame hatity batch vuntaru.....because they just cannot be shamed.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2017 - 09:56 pm:      

Or the fact that just 24 hours ago, Trump had tweeted this: "For every CEO that drops out of the Manufacturing Council, I have many to take their place. Grandstanders should not have gone on. JOBS!"
 

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Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2017 - 08:09 pm:      


Teenmaar:




ee voter fraud kottesthe 49 out of 50 manadeee
The best Odarpu
 

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Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2017 - 08:06 pm:      

Next on agenda on table peaceful ethnic cleansing, Kentucky lo full support so 2020 manade
 

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Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2017 - 08:06 pm:      


Sri_anji:

2024 lo Don Jr....


Ivanka
 

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Sri_anji:

Ippude CNN lo choosa...Kentucky lo oka padi mandi tho matladadu....andaroo adee tune lo matladaru...both side...evadu start chesado emo ani.




comman sense unna vallaki evarina its fault on both sides more on no permis alt left batch ani telusu.....but some alt left batch wont accept it...
 

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Ippude CNN lo choosa...Kentucky lo oka padi mandi tho matladadu....andaroo adee tune lo matladaru...both side...evadu start chesado emo ani.

So, maa nayakudiki emi kaadu. Kottevadu ledu 2020 lo....

kiki dems gallaki cinema choopisthadu.

2024 lo Don Jr....
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Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2017 - 04:11 pm:      

Last one week lo 200 kottina thread...