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Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2017 - 05:58 am:       

yeha, mee gola. ee desamee immigrant nation. that is the reason why it has immigration as policy in the first place.

to all those pudings who feel they are exceptional and experienced - ask the question at which point you became one. IF you came on F1 and got a chance to become exceptional think of where you would be without F1 policy. OR if it was experience, which multi national did you get it from in India ? What if India didn't open its economy in the 90's. Kashte phali annaru peddalu, tomorrow I won't be surprised our grand kids joining the anti immigrant rant here if they don't work hard. it's a global world and all of us have to live with the consequences. mana peddalu cheppina vasidhika kutumbham and sarve jano sukhino bhavanthu anukovatamee.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2017 - 12:05 am:       

2005 ki peak, 2010 ki koddiga slow down becos of market situation, 2020 ki pyack up andarni ellagodataru aa top cream Kani vallani..atelast plan ready ga untadi, daniki meritnbased tokka tolu Inka Edina buchi chupedtaru
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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 11:11 pm:       

ila immigrants kuppal kuppal ante amro m ayipoddi in few decades...akariki qa gallani kuda high end ante emi cheptam(of course qa is very tough job(may be 5%..rest antha nishanissh yee........ better they rhough out nishani low end batch like me and dont allow nishanis to protect native amors....enough is enoguh
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 11:07 pm:       


Rocketk2:

If a qualified American citizen is available , the job will go to him.



again, leaving apart the high tech jobs, all the daiyl mill of the run IT jobs are taken by either fake h1's (resume) or implementation partenrs. Manam-manam nijalu matladukovalikada.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 11:04 pm:       

telanganite dosent want andhraite, kannadiga dosent want Nort Indians, Pundit doset want kashmiri...gora dosent want immigrant. Nothing wrong. Yedo mana valle eelu bathukuthunnaru ane dramatized telugu news channel gobbels lonunchi bayataki randi. Its mutual benefit. BTW leaving apart cream , how much does America(Not corporate and dont mix b oh of them) benefit?
BTW..I am one of the crab and said same think before I morphed into crab
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 09:45 pm:       


Dma:




I am exceptional And experienced.

I don't need any H1
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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 09:37 pm:       


Jai_ycp:

Immigration should be provided for willing candidates who are exceptional and /or experienced.




please explain how do you fit this bill?
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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 08:21 pm:       

Some stats about immigration
https://cis.org/Report/RecordSetting-Decade-Immigration-2000 2010

If trump or section of Americans are alarmed by it, I see no issue with it. Just because I am one of them does not mean I realize the impact. India lo mana native place loki ila batches digithe emi chestamu oppose cheyyamu.
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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 08:17 pm:       

Every 4 Americans ki 1 immigrant vuntunnAdu. This is permanently changing the demographic, culture and social behavior. So if miller or some body thinks we need to put American citizens interest first, it is doing thier duty.

Flow has to be stemmed. Immigration should be provided for willing candidates who are exceptional and /or experienced.
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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 08:15 pm:       


Rocketk2:




Ippudu chestundhi ADHe kadha fixing loopholes. Dhaniki biogtry Anna Peru enduku? No body is saying cancel H1B program. There are loopholes that people are exploiting and it should be fixed.

Manual tester job kuda h1 visa vachinollu vunnaru..

White shirt vessukunnodu dongatanamu chesadu ante white shirt vallandaru vulliki padala? Valla manobhavala kosamu color cheppakoodadha? Kikiki

So America first anagane vulikipadiki ee desam lo vunde arhata vundha? H1B program is designed to help Americans and American companies. America first is the underlying principle.
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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 07:22 pm:       

look at millu bhai profile. all of 31 yrs old with no good work experience. he has no basic understanding of immigration. even from high school he is anticipated immigrantr. rice cook or not two grains enough. vedu drafting policy is same as my son drafting game rules
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 07:16 pm:       


Jp_rocks:

gallu annanu bro aa worst galliddarni

Daaniki jebulo chetulu pettukuni leni maramarala kosam vetukkodam enduko Mari 3kurrodu




barbarious andi..
@rocket - well explained the legal aspect to those so called law followers. fix the abuse, no issues.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 07:16 pm:       


Andhravodu:

ikkada antaa manolle, nijalu cheppukundam.


I will revise my statement .. infact this was my intent when i made that statement. It follows the sentiment with rest of the post!!
' H1b 'as intended' doesn't prevent American from getting a job'

Rather than using the break in process as excuse to overhaul it, they should try to fix it.

Also I remember posting about payroll several days back.
The 'salary' paid by 'real' client is always competetive and always benchmarked with market for parity.
The existence of several layers underneath it.. I never understood how this business model sustained this long!! This market adjustment is bound to happened as the recruitment industry is transforming. This is natural correction and happens in any industry
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 06:49 pm:       


Rocketk2:

H1b doesn't prevent American from getting a job


ikkada antaa manolle, nijalu cheppukundam. Meeru trumpodi kannaa easy ga lie chestunnaru ee vishayam lo
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 06:41 pm:       


Jp_rocks:

They basically don't want h1bs applying for jobs which they think could be filled by college grad Americans ..but reality is those positions can't be filled with am cits


jai_ycp, here is our fundemental disagreement. I agree with the above reality!!
You are using 'America first' rational to justify Miller actions. But I am calling that move by miller a facade.

If a qualified American citizen is available , the job will go to him. H1b doesn't prevent American from getting a job. As with anything, exceptions will be there..
You don't design for exceptions, you need to handle exceptions.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 06:28 pm:       


Jai_ycp:

Miller bannin should work for American people not for H1B. Valla job vallu chesthe tappena. I said 2-4 months ago why we need H1B for simple jobs like junior or entry level .net, java developer etc. didn't make sense.


working for Americans doesn't mean bigotry towards immigrants. They are not mutually exclusive .
Btw, law lo eppudu mistake vundadhu.. law rase Vadi intentions lo vuntadhi.. nothing wrong with setting guidelines. That is not the basis of what miller is saying.
We need visa's when we cannot provide workforce. Fundemental problem ni avoid cheyyodhu.. workforce lekapothe jobs pothayi.. first let him take a lesson on capitalism

I don't understand how fixing h1 visa abuse and America first are related other than bringing xenophobia into the topic. Fixing h1visa abuse doesn't need justification.. if someone says America first as reason to fix h1 visa problem.. start paying attention to their intention!!

Ilantivi chesthe.. republicans ye tarimestharu thondaraga!! Do you think HE will primaried ?? :-)
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 05:31 pm:       

Jai ycp ante. Mari aimmi officer evdino ante emaindhi esho prestetion lo ... infact session ni chusthe okapudu maaku BP BP perigipoyedhi eti chetham
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 05:28 pm:       


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Aa banned word evari meedha vadina consistent ga vesestunnadu
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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 05:24 pm:       

Yo androdu. Entoi. Nuvvu mareenu , db ni lkg. School maadiri. Chesthunnav , rules konchem marchithe bhaguntadhi emo, jp ne ban ante inga db la evaru tiragadha ani prasnisthunna, nannu ban cheyaku nenu jump
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 05:20 pm:       


Jp_rocks:




Road meedha potha speeding chesthe cop pattukunnadu ani Edche type aa nuvvu?
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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 04:40 pm:       


Anthamidhya:


xenophobic LK gallu annanu bro aa worst galliddarni

Daaniki jebulo chetulu pettukuni leni maramarala kosam vetukkodam enduko Mari kurrodu

Anyway, we got bigger fish to fry

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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 04:35 pm:       


Andhravodu:

bannon gaadni tidite kaadu, banned words vadinanduku




sorry, this came around the same time I posted. aa banned words ento, thanu emi vaadado pedathaara ?
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 04:33 pm:       

ee Andhravodu kurrodi previous getup enti? fressss 2015 entry aa house teesi?
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 04:23 pm:       


Anthamidhya:

enti bannu ni thidithe ban aaa, wow. telugollu crab story vuurikee raaledhu.



Jai_ycp:

I said 2-4 months ago why we need H1B for simple jobs like junior or entry level .net, java developer etc. didn't make sense.


perfect example for a big crab ikkade undi :-)
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 04:18 pm:       


Anthamidhya:


kinda post kooda vesa, selective ignorance vaddu ok
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 04:17 pm:       

Miller bannin should work for American people not for H1B. Valla job vallu chesthe tappena. I said 2-4 months ago why we need H1B for simple jobs like junior or entry level .net, java developer etc. didn't make sense.

An H1B should be mutually beneficial to candidate, country and company. Way to go.
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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 04:05 pm:       

enti bannu ni thidithe ban aaa, wow. telugollu crab story vuurikee raaledhu.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 04:01 pm:       


Andhravodu:

bannon gaadni tidite kaadu, banned words vadinanduku




endole..thala thikka rules...kaniyyandi
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 04:00 pm:       


andhravodu:




Please release jp_rocks. I will wait for 10 min
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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 03:59 pm:       


Biriyani:


bannon gaadni tidite kaadu, banned words vadinanduku

Senior member, fan following baga undi, releasing now per Abhy recommendation. kaani language control cheyalsindi ga manavi
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 03:53 pm:       


Bharat:

bannon gaanni




veenni todithe ban chesara...adee sadhu janthuvu jp ni...

andhravodu ku mind dobbindaaa
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 03:49 pm:       


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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 03:49 pm:       


andhravodu:

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message edit sesi warning ivvochu kada.. ee topic is diff...

pls show some manaveeya konam (angle)
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 03:48 pm:       


Jp_rocks:

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Adhravodu......bannon gaanni kuda db celebrity lo add chesaaraa?
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 03:46 pm:       


Jp_rocks:

Banned for 1 day



 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 03:45 pm:       


Jp_rocks:

vadi M..valliddaru plus banon gadu kuda povali

Campaigning appudu banon gadu (as an outsider) Miller ni interview chesadu...ee topic gurinche..isn't this the real beating heart of the problem (not illegal immigration) ani..he went further in the interview and said "these people's kids are now in colleges - competing with our kids for jobs..it's scary" ani

Anta openly xenophobic LK gallu ippudu inta power lo unnaru..




4 years is a small time.. US will get rid off them..
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 03:36 pm:       


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vadi M..valliddaru plus banon gadu kuda povali

Campaigning appudu banon gadu (as an outsider) Miller ni interview chesadu...ee topic gurinche..isn't this the real beating heart of the problem (not illegal immigration) ani..he went further in the interview and said "these people's kids are now in colleges - competing with our kids for jobs..it's scary" ani

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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 03:32 pm:       


Chantichanti:


no the issue is not about applicants not having bachelors degrees..the issue is about why an applicant would need a bachelors degree when some petitioners are filing h1b's for candidates with just an associates degree..so the argument by uscis is level 1 is not speciality occupation

Literally eekalu peekutunnaru egg meeda..degree is just an example...wage level meeda adagachu same question

They basically don't want h1bs applying for jobs which they think could be filled by college grad Americans ..but reality is those positions can't be filled with am cits
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 02:35 pm:       


Jp_rocks:

miller kurrod jeff sessions




velliddarni eppudu lepthunnadu Dumpanna
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 02:19 pm:       


Jp_rocks:




Ee petition lo mostly associate kadu bachelors degree vundali antunnadu kada. So, most of us are fine kada ?? Am I missing something here?
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 02:18 pm:       


Starc:


What is the plan? R2I serious ga alochinchali anukunt.. India lo minimum oka illu anna pettukovali anukunta..




edo disco sestar anukonte last lo R2I gurinchi yena... next cost of living.. entha salary/savings ...
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 02:15 pm:       


Jp_rocks:

ni petition lo untundi LCA lo..there are four levels - 1, 2, 3 and 4 - wages in increasing order




wage level N/A ani undi LCA lo
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 01:39 pm:       

miller n bannon lanti neech, gallu policy lu rastunnappude anukunna...specifically miller kurrod jeff sessions kindana idey pani...vadu ippudu legal immi ki chief advisor n policy maker...mana kharma

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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 01:37 pm:       


Sachin:

guruji ee level 1 wage endi..adekkada check cheyali


ni petition lo untundi LCA lo..there are four levels - 1, 2, 3 and 4 - wages in increasing order
 

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Detailed:

In March 31, 2017, on the eve of the FY 2018 H-1B Cap filing season, the USCIS issued a policy memorandum stating that computer programmer positions are not always “specialty occupations” that would render the occupation eligible under the H-1B visa. This memo rescinded an earlier memo of the Nebraska Service Center from 2000, which acknowledged that computer programming occupations were specialty occupations for H-1B purposes. The new guidance references computer programmers in the DOL’s Occupational Outlook Handbook that states, “Most computer programmers have a bachelor’s degree; however, some employers hire workers who have an associate’s degree.” The guidance also questioned whether a computer programmer position that is offered an entry-level wage could qualify for an H-1B specialty occupation because, as the OOH suggests, an associate’s degree is sufficient to enter into the field. While this policy memorandum only applied to entry level computer programmers, practitioners are now seeing that any occupation that is assigned a Level 1 wage, even if it is not related to computer programmer, gets an RFE. It may be worth noting that even an entry level computer occupation should be eligible for H-1B classification if it can be demonstrated that the skills necessary to perform the duties require the minimum of a bachelor’s degree.
President Trump’s Executive Order on Buy American Hire American may also be responsible for this trend, which provides in relevant part:
In order to promote the proper functioning of the H-1B visa program, the Secretary of State, the Attorney General, the Secretary of Labor, and the Secretary of Homeland Security shall, as soon as practicable, suggest reforms to help ensure that H-1B visas are awarded to the most-skilled or highest-paid petition beneficiaries
Even if the administration has not been able to promulgate new regulations to achieve its stated goals under the executive order, these RFEs are indirectly implementing President Trump’s “Buy American Hire American” policy by thwarting H-1B petitions filed for entry level positions. While H-1B petitions with Level 1 wages have run into trouble prior to the Trump administration, RFEs are now being issued more frequently whenever a Level 1 wage has been noticed. Immigration attorneys must fight back on behalf of their clients. Otherwise, the government could potentially exclude entry-level professionals from using the H-1B visa, some of whom have recently graduated from US universities. These entry-level professionals, while full of skill and talent, are not typically afforded higher wages at the beginning of their careers. If the H-1B program were to look unfavorably upon wage-earners commanding Level 1 wages in the DOL wage classification system, then we would be systematically excluding highly skilled, young workers that have the potential to positively impact the US economy and various professional sectors. Paying such an entry wage is not per se unlawful if the individual is being hired for a position with less than 2 years of experience and which requires supervision. Another argument that can be made is that if an employer is forced to pay a legitimate entry level worker on an H-1B visa at a wage level higher than the entry level wage, we may end up in a situation where a foreign national is making more than his or her American counterpart. Under the H-1B law, the employer must pay the higher of the prevailing or the actual wage. See INA 212(n)(1)(A)(i). If an employer is forced to pay a higher wage to an H-1B worker at the entry level, then the employer may have to adjust the wage for all similarly situated workers. This may not necessarily be a bad thing if all wages rise, but if the rise in wages is as a result of reading out H-1B visas from the INA for entry level workers in acknowledged professions, it could also have the effect of artificially distorting wages that could ultimately hurt competitiveness.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 01:28 pm:       


Jp_rocks:

..ee year lo ne april lo file chesina h1's lo 50% approve ayyai - remaining 50% in progress applications ki ee level 1 wage RFEs and rejections..




maa aapice lo kurrod April lo apply chesadu..last week RFE vachindi..

house theesi ide nemo..

anduke if you can provide more details..at least kurrod ki help cheyyochu ani
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 01:27 pm:       


Jp_rocks:




guruji ee level 1 wage endi..adekkada check cheyali
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 01:26 pm:       


Jp_rocks:

People with level 1 wages (most applicants under 6-8 years of experience) started getting rejections and RFEs based on that DOL memo




matter ekkuvaina konchem detailed gaa cheppandi fleez
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 01:23 pm:       


Bharat:

What about already approved extensions? Any impact on stamping?


that's the $65,000 question....ee year lo ne april lo file chesina h1's lo 50% approve ayyai - remaining 50% in progress applications ki ee level 1 wage RFEs and rejections..

so - what we are hearing is approved extensions ki kuda NOIR (intent to revoke) issue chese chance undi ani....ippudu stamping pettukokapovadam better, if u are in L1 wage category..
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 01:16 pm:       


Bharat:

What about already approved extensions? Any impact on stamping?




so far, DOL ye rule ichinchi kabatti, immigration guys may be okay as long as there is approved docs. (as of today). dont know what happens tomorrow.
Jai Andhra!! Jai Jai Andhra!!!
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 01:08 pm:       


Jp_rocks:

started getting rejections and RFEs based on that DOL memo



What about already approved extensions? Any impact on stamping?
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 01:01 pm:       

jp rocks.. thanks ee..

kurrollani.. konchem prepare cheyyali. dabbulu Beemer etc ani tagaleyyakunda. .untaru
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 12:57 pm:       

Speciality occupation rule enti? Are you referring to the memo DOL issued couple weeks ago ?
For those of you that are not yet aware - DOL issued (with no rule making or whatsoever - simply based on hire American executive order) a memo couple of weeks ago classifying h1b petitions with level 1 wages as not speciality occupation..

People with level 1 wages (most applicants under 6-8 years of experience) started getting rejections and RFEs based on that DOL memo..companies are fighting this rule because it's being implemented with absolutely no advance notice..rfe on this topic is basically unanswerable

Situation is very bad..
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 12:34 pm:       

ee time lo neenu employer maramdam avasarama adhyakshaaa? offer ni madichi back pocket lo pettukodam better emo
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 12:33 pm:       


Starc:

60% h1b extensions kavu antunnaru..




ippude tough gaa undi.... oka 10% daakaa facing issues with queries and no-job
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 12:32 pm:       


Starc:

specialty occupation rule




idem rule?
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 12:26 pm:       

GC vacchina vallani pakkana pedithe.. Ranivallu itu randi..

What is the plan? repu H1b specialty occupation rule rigorous ga implement cheste.. 60% h1b extensions kavu antunnaru..

What is the plan? R2I serious ga alochinchali anukunt.. India lo minimum oka illu anna pettukovali anukunta..

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