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Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2017 - 11:51 am:       

from google for nc

There are certain voters who are required to show some form of identification when they present to vote – either “in person” or when voting “by mail.” First-time voters who at the time of their initial voter registration did not provide their North Carolina driver license number or the last four digits of their Social Security number, or who provided a number that could not be validated, will be required to show identification when they vote. This identification does not have to be a photo ID. The requirement for first-time voters to show identification is a requirement of the Help America Vote Act (HAVA) of 2002, a federal law not unique to North Carolina. Acceptable forms of HAVA ID include:
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Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2017 - 11:47 am:       


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hat is the difficulty in making ID mandatory?




I thought for registering vote ID is mandatory .. is it not ?
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Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2017 - 11:23 am:       


Jai_ycp:

They should lower it to 6 months in priso




rather take away DL for few months or something. non-criminal activity ki prison is harsh
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2017 - 11:22 am:       


Xxx:

ID is worth taking risk , not voting




why make assumptions in the first place? what is the difficulty in making ID mandatory?

oka individual nyquil syrup taagali ante ID. but desam future ni decide chese voting ki no ID. what yaa
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2017 - 11:21 am:       

Aa punishment matuku extreme. They should lower it to 6 months in prison and then deport
the story of YCP and TDP in 2014 (AP)- http://goo.gl/zgrYmQ
http://goo.gl/gn6XL5
the story of TDP in 2014 (T) - http://goo.gl/nyu1Wu
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2017 - 11:20 am:       


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you pay taxes to the state and it was pulled from that database, I was not even paying property tax ..



Are you sure? Texas lo state tax ledu. I think it is pulled from driver's license database. Where, they ask for your status since last 3 or 4 years.
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2017 - 11:19 am:       


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Endhi mee arguments Mari extreme la vuntunnayi. There could be hundred of thousands of voters like this in CA too. Who is going to catch them? Dem party workers? Before we even debate, we need to know what is the process behind once you register.

Same day registrations ela catch chestaru? Andukane adhi cancel cheyyandi ante voter suppression a antaru. Only citizens can vote. They are not scare to get ID. Make ID mandatory, cancel same day registrations, remove advance voting. Only way to save democracy.
the story of YCP and TDP in 2014 (AP)- http://goo.gl/zgrYmQ
http://goo.gl/gn6XL5
the story of TDP in 2014 (T) - http://goo.gl/nyu1Wu
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2017 - 11:16 am:       


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like they risk to get an ID?




ID is worth taking risk , not voting
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Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2017 - 11:15 am:       


Xxx:

If someone is illegal , why would they take the risk to go vote ?




like they risk to get an ID? amakayam ga vunnav annai, maa voorlo DMV mothanni fire chesaru for giiving IDs to hundreds or even thousands of illegals.
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2017 - 11:13 am:       


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Mari naku jury summons ela vachayi antaru? N




I got it too .. you pay taxes to the state and it was pulled from that database, I was not even paying property tax ..
what does that have to do to this voting .. she did due to lack of knowledge

If someone is illegal , why would they take the risk to go vote ?
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Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2017 - 11:13 am:       


Rocketk2:

Voting is a fundemental right. Having Id is not




saar
safe box operate seyataniki ID saripodu, passport temmani harass sestunnaru 10 year ga vunna customer ni. alatadi voting ki asalu ID req kaadu ante em septaam.
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2017 - 11:11 am:       


Rocketk2:

if anything this should be text book case for what's the mindset of this government!!



Case eppudu pattukunnaro choosara asalu
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2017 - 11:09 am:       


Xxx:

from infant to 37 years , she is in america , lived all the life and still had to go through this


if anything this should be text book case for what's the mindset of this government!!

I bet if they look deep they may find one or two genuine cases.

Asdf:

ejjactly, why wait to let it happen?


because this is a slippery slope. Nenu dongatanam chesthanemo ani register chesukomante oka na?? Why wait till it happen.. I may steal ..
I understand your point but I am trying to say it is not easy to call these. That is why have system a go at it. If it feels mandated make it a law.

Asdf:

may be govt can have a one day event or something, and compensate people for their time. it may sound rude, but its a possible solution?


reason is not time. Voting is a fundemental right. Having Id is not .. so let's just say it is constitutional technicality. Dheni side there is reasonable argument
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2017 - 11:04 am:       


Rocketk2:

Like this
https://youtu.be/nFTRwD85AQ4



Lol. Good find.
Mee belief ki _/\_.
Mari naku jury summons ela vachayi antaru? Nenu 1 in million aa? Oka lottery konachantara
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2017 - 11:00 am:       

Denying even the possibility is bordering on denial.
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2017 - 10:59 am:       


Moviebuff001:

How is it different from saying that there is a POSSIBILITY of fraud?



Like this :-)
https://youtu.be/nFTRwD85AQ4
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2017 - 10:58 am:       


Xxx:

that is not a systematic voter fraud .. she is ignorant and unfortunate .. she would have become citizen long back if she had one to take care of and got her educated

from infant to 37 years , she is in america , lived all the life and still had to go through this




Person and her state are totally irrelevant to my argument.
How was she allowed to register to begin with in 2012? She was eventually caught only because she tried to register at a different place a second time after rejection. System is inadequate to catch fraudulent registrations.
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2017 - 10:50 am:       


Rocketk2:

This is as much (or even lesser ) representative of a voter fraud than an accident is to murder.



How is it different from saying that there is a POSSIBILITY of fraud?
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2017 - 10:50 am:       


Rocketk2:

. 2001 varaku domestic flight lo id akkaraledhu.. now it is required .




ejjactly, why wait to let it happen?

i understand the historical reasons, its emotional. may be govt can have a one day event or something, and compensate people for their time. it may sound rude, but its a possible solution?
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2017 - 10:47 am:       


Moviebuff001:

Does this show that there is possibility of systemic voter fraud? Yes.




that is not a systematic voter fraud .. she is ignorant and unfortunate .. she would have become citizen long back if she had one to take care of and got her educated

from infant to 37 years , she is in america , lived all the life and still had to go through this
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Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2017 - 10:39 am:       


Asdf:

historical reasons ani seppi min checks lekunda voting seyatam endo ardham kaadu


min checks kadhu brother.. the voter registration process blind ga jaragadhu... not evey one who registers will be eligible.. but some times there will be irregularities..
Ee case lo she has been in system for too long. It would not raise a red flag ..

Id check is totally different issue. 2001 varaku domestic flight lo id akkaraledhu.. now it is required .
If they can establish identities are misused , they can Amend the law and make it a requirement . T
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2017 - 10:30 am:       


Moviebuff001:

Does this show that there is possibility of systemic voter fraud? Yes


there is a process in place.. the registrations are validated . Her mistake was caught in 2015.. evaru padithe vallu velli vote veyyaleru.. you have to be registered and generally evey polling station has agents(multiple) from both parties who check registered votes!!

Registration process lo irregularities jaruthaya.. obviously like any cases..
her registration was cancelled in April 2015( she first voted in 2012) indicates how they are even catching up with irregularities.

This is as much (or even lesser ) representative of a voter fraud than an accident is to murder.
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2017 - 10:28 am:       


Andhravodu:




If she was educated like rest ,she got opportunity thrice to become , like what rock brother said ..
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Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2017 - 10:25 am:       

donga vote veyatam, register kavatam chala easy, calif lo dmv daggara line lo nunchunte oka 3 members tirugutaru signature collect cheyatam kosam

but ee case lo ee extreme ki vellatam, I think to make an example to latino community. nevertheless, she persisted, 8 years jail ani padestunnaru. erry bad
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2017 - 10:03 am:       


Rocketk2:

It is quite possible she has been under the thought process, She is already a citizen without citizenship.




imprisonment overboard aindi, agree.

i blame the system along with her. sentiments pakkana petti ID ni mandatory seyali. historical reasons ani seppi min checks lekunda voting seyatam endo ardham kaadu.
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2017 - 09:49 am:       


Rocketk2:

If this is what you are going to put as exhibit for voter fraud and illegal immigration problem, sad days are abound for US.




Is she eligible to vote? No.
Could she have used a better defense lawyer to get a lower sentence?Yes.
Does this show that there is possibility of systemic voter fraud? Yes.
Put her situation aside for now and look at the possibility of fraud. Sympathizing with the person is one thing. Ignoring systemic failures is another thing. Do not mix them.
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2017 - 09:40 am:       


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She made a mistake. Look at the story , she was brought here as an infant. She is 37 years old. That would be in 1980. Amnesty was granted almost 3 times since then. At some point, her mom got deported and she was granted permanent residency. It is quite possible she has been under the thought process, She is already a citizen without citizenship. I don't know why they are pulling this stupid crap on technicality. Murder ke intent chuseppudu.. voter fraud ki chudara?? Why fullest extent of crime!!

If this is what you are going to put as exhibit for voter fraud and illegal immigration problem, sad days are abound for US.


From the posted link

"According to the New York Times, Ortega was born in Monterrey, Mexico and brought to the U.S. by her mother as an infant. More than a decade later, her mother was deported and Ortega became a permanent resident.

In her defense, Ortega testified that she didn’t understand the differences between the rights granted to citizens and the rights granted to legal residents."
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2017 - 09:31 am:       

ee lekkana billary amma popular majority kuda myth annamata
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2017 - 09:07 am:       


Asdf:

catholic priests rape seste law of land kakunda, suspension tho vadilestaaru.



Victim probably didn't file a complaint with the police. Case lenappudu law of the land em chestundi?

Asdf:

aslau non-citizen vote ela veyagalgindi? fix the system.



Some state laws don't require id verification. Some are probably archaic systems. This case is evidence enough to assume some level of voter fraud.

Antenduku, I received jury summons while I was on H1b. Ofcourse, I said I am not a citizen and got the summons revoked or dismissed.
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2017 - 08:55 am:       


Moviebuff001:

8 years prison sentence




fraud ye babu. 8 years chala ekkuva kada? aadevado ivy league olympian probable rape chesi 2 weeks lo bayata ochaadu. catholic priests rape seste law of land kakunda, suspension tho vadilestaaru.

aina, aslau non-citizen vote ela veyagalgindi? fix the system.
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2017 - 08:54 am:       

“This case shows how serious Texas is about keeping its elections secure, and the outcome sends a message that violators of the state’s election law will be prosecuted to the fullest,” he said


orey 5 times vote vesindi TX lone
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2017 - 08:52 am:       


Asdf:



Fraud kada. 8 years prison sentence and deportation upon completion of the sentence.
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2017 - 08:50 am:       

blame the system which allowed it in the first place. anthe kaani, arrest 2much kada
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2017 - 08:44 am:       

Senate majority leader enti ila anesadu....

http://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2017/02/05/sotu-mcconnell-disag rees-with-trumps-voter-fraud-claims.cnn
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2017 - 08:41 am:       


Jai_ycp:

Definitely ee type hundreds of thousands lo vuntaru CA lo



Ippudu big brothers vachi there is no proof. Show me data ante enti paristhithi? How andi how?
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2017 - 08:40 am:       

Good job...Trump daughter who has two voter IDs ne kuda lopala este bagundu :D
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2017 - 08:40 am:       


Jai_ycp:

Definitely ee type hundreds of thousands lo vuntaru CA lo


 

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Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2017 - 08:37 am:       

Sad. Definitely ee type hundreds of thousands lo vuntaru CA lo.
the story of YCP and TDP in 2014 (AP)- http://goo.gl/zgrYmQ
http://goo.gl/gn6XL5
the story of TDP in 2014 (T) - http://goo.gl/nyu1Wu
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2017 - 08:32 am:       

Anduke vote chesa.
5 times.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/02/11/mexican-woman-in-texas- sentenced-to-8-years-in-prison-for-voter-fraud.html

Probably just a one off.

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