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Dts
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Post Number: 1076 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 209.95.56.53
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Cinejeevi:not sure what your problem/question is and use of hanging around the same point despite getting so many explanations.. Please think as OH said below.. If you are goint to a swayamvaram declared by someone starting from home, it is inferred that you have the blessings of your father.
If this thread is based on that point why you want me to deviate from it? You can ask me to shut up but that doesn't prove your point. First of all it is not even feasible to inform parents as princes or kings may not be with their parents all the time. They don't have internet at that time. Even the case of rama janaka sent ministers/messengers with fastest horses available. The best example is Krishna he married several times and do you think either of his biological or foster father even knew about all the marriages? At the time of shyamtakamani he married to jhambavati did he inform anybody? Don't imagine marriage means a grand ceremony; as per vedic tradition pani-grahanam is marriage (no tali-bottu at that time). As you said you need to have complete knowledge on any subject. The initial question of does Dasaradha knew about participation in sita swayaram? Yes/No; I said no. Even with Ayodhya kanda reference it is rama who insisted otherwise he wouldn't even know about the marriage. కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
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Cinejeevi
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Post Number: 4939 Registered: 10-2014 Posted From: 72.166.89.74
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Dts:Even the Aja maharaju (rama's grandfather) did not take permission on the indumati-swayamvaram.
not sure what your problem/question is and use of hanging around the same point despite getting so many explanations.. Please think as OH said below.. If you are goint to a swayamvaram declared by someone starting from home, it is inferred that you have the blessings of your father.
Dts:However as per sanathana dharma no groom is not required to take permission from father.
This is the biggest blunder and blanket statement from you. If someone did something you are attaching it directly to the dharma. Please don't read in between or just read part of something or go with hearsay/movies and come to conclusions.. brahmaghnE cha eva suraapEcha chOrE bhagnavratE tadhaa! nishkrutir vihitaa sadbhihi, kRutaghne na asthi nishkruthi!!
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Okahyderabadi
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Post Number: 6595 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 68.128.164.103
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Dts:Thanks for the reference - I didn't read Ayadhya kanda. This explains what everyone is worried about on this thread. However as per sanathana dharma no groom is not required to take permission from father. Even the Aja maharaju (rama's grandfather) did not take permission on the indumati-swayamvaram.
Brother mee interpretation is based on a premise that Aja did not take permission of his father before marrying, in this case Aja went to the Swayamvaram after it was declared and got an official invitation. So that means he already had the blessings of his father to go to the swayamvaram and if chosen to get married. In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day |
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Thikka_sankara
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Post Number: 31634 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 27.62.150.203
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Stellar:asalu meeru ilanti stories vinetappudu 'logical' ane word ni avoid chestaru anukunta
kalpitham anukuni vinu....what's wrong?? If you have problem accepting them to be authentic, just treat them as moral stories and get good things out of them... Or just read them to appreciate the story, story writer's ability in narrating such a huge epic.... methavulaki venkayya jawaabu.... https://youtu.be/fUafzTD37sY
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asalu meeru ilanti stories vinetappudu 'logical' ane word ni avoid chestaru anukunta |
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Thikka_sankara
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Post Number: 31633 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 27.62.150.203
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Dts:what do you think of sanathana dharma book?
em book idi?? Evvaru author??? Edo book lo evaro Edo raasthe and if you believe in that, it's up to you, nobody would say anything ...but why are you attributing this to Rama's behaviour and try to prove Rama followed that? methavulaki venkayya jawaabu.... https://youtu.be/fUafzTD37sY
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Raman
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Post Number: 48445 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 49.207.176.120
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Dts
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Post Number: 1075 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 209.95.56.53
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Thikka_sankara:Eeee mukka pattukuni adey prove cheyyadaniki taaapatraya padthunnavu.... Sarey, as per sanathana dharma na??? Sanathana dharma ante bible or Quran lags single book kaadu kadaa??. So em refer chesyhunnav?? Manusmriti?? Or something else?? Evo pinni examples choopinchi as per sanathana dharma not needed ante ela??
the thread was logged on that point; what else should I discuss? what do you think of sanathana dharma book? కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
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Thikka_sankara
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Post Number: 31632 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 122.178.67.247
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Dts:You are revolving around the same point.
nenu kaadu, you are revolving around the same point, which is Cinejeevi:However as per sanathana dharma no groom is not required to take permission from father.
Eeee mukka pattukuni adey prove cheyyadaniki taaapatraya padthunnavu.... Sarey, as per sanathana dharma na??? Sanathana dharma ante bible or Quran lags single book kaadu kadaa??. So em refer chesyhunnav?? Manusmriti?? Or something else?? Evo pinni examples choopinchi as per sanathana dharma not needed ante ela?? methavulaki venkayya jawaabu.... https://youtu.be/fUafzTD37sY
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Cinejeevi
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Post Number: 4935 Registered: 10-2014 Posted From: 69.121.41.84
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Will reply tomorrow gn brahmaghnE cha eva suraapEcha chOrE bhagnavratE tadhaa! nishkrutir vihitaa sadbhihi, kRutaghne na asthi nishkruthi!!
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Dts
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Post Number: 1074 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 209.95.56.53
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Cinejeevi:tato aham tatra r�m�ya pitr� satya abhisa�dhin� | udyat� d�tum udyamya jala bh�janam uttamam || 2-118-50 50. tataH = then; tatra = and there; pitraa = by my father; satyaabhisandhinaa = who was true to his promise; nishchitaa = it was decided; daatum = to give; aham = me; raamaaya = to Rama; udyamya = offering him; jalabhaajanam = of jar of pure water. "Then and there, my father true to his promise decided to bestow me on Rama, offering him a jar of pure water." Verse Locator dīyam�n�m na tu tad� pratijagr�ha r�ghavaḥ | avijn�ya pituḥ candam ayodhy� adhipateḥ prabhoḥ || 2-118-51 51. tadaa = then; raaghavaH = Rama; na tu pratijagraaha = did not consent to accept; diiyamaanaam = me who was being offered to him; avijJNaaya = withut knowing; chhandam = the opinion; pituH = of his father; prabhoH = the Lord; ayodhyaadhipateH = and the king of Ayodhya. "But Rama did not consent to accept my hand till the will of his father, the Lord and the king of Ayodhya had been made known to him."
Thanks for the reference - I didn't read Ayadhya kanda. This explains what everyone is worried about on this thread. However as per sanathana dharma no groom is not required to take permission from father. Even the Aja maharaju (rama's grandfather) did not take permission on the indumati-swayamvaram. కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
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Dts
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Post Number: 1073 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 209.95.56.53
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Thikka_sankara:1) show me evidence where it's mentioned that Sita participated in what u r calling as swayamvara 2) was Sita being declared as bounty a decision taken by Sita or by Janaka? 3) had someone else lifted and aimed the dhanas, what would've Sita done? 4) did Sita even know if and when Rama was aiming the dhanassu? 5) when did Sita and Rama knew each other and when is the first time Sita acknowledged the marriage with Rama(if varamala was decorated, it should be right at that moment, so when?) 6) what do you think is the age of Sita by the time of marriage?
wow a lot has happened on this thread. You are revolving around the same point. Answers: 1) Unlike indumati-swayamvaram it did not happen on the court - up on seeing sita's might who could lift the shiva dhannassu janaka decides that she has to be veerya-shulka - that's swayamvaram - a father can declare it on behalf of his daughter. Also lot so kings fought with Janaka before this announcement. with this announcement they tried and failed - this also answer you question (3). 2) Yes - sita would be the veerya-shulka - the bounty. 3) Yes many tried and failed. Not in a single setting as other swayamvaras but several times. 4) No, sita was not present at that time. 5) Sita ramudni varanichindi ante literally oka varamala vesindi ani kaadu - it's just dramatization ani chaala sarlu cheppanu kada. He was chosen as per the veerya-shulka rule. 6) This was narrated in balakanda obviously rama is a boy. kaani baaludaina kaallu kadigi kaynaadaam cheshaadu Janakudu - appudu child marriage act ledu. so oka baludu mogudu kagaliginappudu tana pelli nirnayam tanu teesukogaladu. baaludu kaabatthi dhsarathadi anumati avasaram ledu. Don't compare with today's child marriage act. What I am telling is as per sanatana-dharma and details available on valmiki balakanda. కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
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Okahyderabadi
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Post Number: 6594 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 68.128.160.191
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 30, 2017 - 04:14 pm: |
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Last_avataar:Thank you Alage Mahabharat authentic vyasa translations , unnaya. Andhra Mahabharatam kakunda ?
http://gitapressbookshop.in/books-by-topics-subjects/mahabha rat.html In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day |
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Last_avataar
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Post Number: 8314 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 12.10.219.222
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Okahyderabadi:
Thank you Alage Mahabharat authentic vyasa translations , unnaya. Andhra Mahabharatam kakunda ? |
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Okahyderabadi
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Post Number: 6592 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 68.128.160.191
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Last_avataar:
gorakhpur gita press vallavi untayi , they are some of the better available translation http://gitapressbookshop.in/books-by-topics-subjects/ramayan a/shrimadvalmikiya-ramayan-first-volume-hindi-translation.ht ml http://gitapressbookshop.in/books-by-topics-subjects/ramayan a/shrimadvalmikiya-ramayan-second-volume-hindi-translation.h tml inka ikkade untayi In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day |
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Last_avataar
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Post Number: 8313 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 12.10.219.222
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Okahyderabadi:
yes i am asking about such authentic translated versions, for myself |
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Okahyderabadi
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Post Number: 6589 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 68.128.160.191
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Last_avataar:what version of translation you have read of Valmiki
evaru chesina true translation cheste saripotundi without own interpretation In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day |
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Last_avataar
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Post Number: 8312 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 12.10.219.222
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Cinejeevi:
what version of translation you have read of Valmiki ? |
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Okahyderabadi
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Post Number: 6587 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 68.128.160.191
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Vishvak:My doubt is on the way Rama killed Vaali... If that is justified then why fighting with Ravana to get Sita... He could have got Sita first, with Hanuma help, and then fight with Ravana to punish him right?
Vanarullo oka rule undi - brother's wife can become their wife if the other dies - when vali goes to fight dundhubhi along with sugreeva and goes . Dundhubhi to jarigina fight lo vali kills him and aa process lo deadbody ni tippi tippi visiri vestadu. Aa body velli matanga muni ashramam lo padutundi. Matanga muni idi divya drushti tho choosi shapistadu - vali kanaka ee ashramam loki vaste he will die immediately anu. Next mayavi vastadu he is dundhubhi's son and challenges him to fight him. Vali chases mayavi who goes in to a cave and fight for a long time and then sugreeva who is outside hears vali's sounds and then blood flowing out. He assumes vali is dead and waits for some time and closes the cave entrance with a huge boulder and leaves for kishkinda. Everybody believes he is dead so Tara also believes and becomes his wife. Vali comes out of the cave and sees that sugreeva was crowned king and tara became his wife. He kicks vali out and forcibly takes Roma as his wife. So sugreeva took tara as his wife believing vali was dead while Vali took Roma forcibly as his wife knowing that Sugreeva was alive. This is adharmam - anduke Ramudu sided with sugreeva and not with Vali. Leka pote toka tho ravanudini nalugu samudralalo munchina balashali vali he could have very easily asked ravana to return sita to Rama. In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day |
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Last_avataar:6. what kind of turmoil happened in Ayodhya between dasaradh and Kaika, when she decided to send bharat to brother's place to make him grow out of Rama's shadow 7. how Rama sends msg to Family about Swayamvar and how he convinces Kaika with personal letter to get her acceptance
ee rendu lines chaalu how bad the influence ani cheppadaniki as i said I am truly out of discussion with these assumptions.. i can try to answer things from valimiki ramayana (interpretations) and can give some calrifications or get myself clarified. But cannot on some such wild imaginations.. all yours uttamE kshana kOpasya madhyamE ghatikaa dwayam adhamE dahOraatram paapishTE maraNantakaha !!!
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Post Number: 6586 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 68.128.160.191
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Last_avataar:No Chiru, the writer worked on that did extensive research on Ramayan not just went with imagination but many new aspects are introduced like 1. Janaka living simple life, more into farming , no wars , like Rajarshi 2, how women have freedome of choice in his kingdom 3. how his kingdom was gyanabhoomi 4. how Sita questions Ahalya's husband, how come you could not control your anger despite knowing all gyana 5. how Rama stops horse from sacrifice and convinces people to stay away from superstitions 6. what kind of turmoil happened in Ayodhya between dasaradh and Kaika, when she decided to send bharat to brother's place to make him grow out of Rama's shadow 7. how Rama sends msg to Family about Swayamvar and how he convinces Kaika with personal letter to get her acceptance 8. how all queens disappoint when ayodhya's rules prohibit from attending marriage, and Janaka gets surprised to see no mom attending 9. How dasaradh, suddenly proposes all 4 marriages, looking at the beautiful brought up of all 4 cousin sisters 10. How Bharat's wife initially gets upset, as her consent was not taken for marrige 9. How janaka inspite of being rajarshi, gets emotional to see of her daughters and Rama asks him to take his own time
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Post Number: 8309 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 12.10.219.222
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Cinejeevi:
No Chiru, the writer worked on that did extensive research on Ramayan not just went with imagination but many new aspects are introduced like 1. Janaka living simple life, more into farming , no wars , like Rajarshi 2, how women have freedome of choice in his kingdom 3. how his kingdom was gyanabhoomi 4. how Sita questions Ahalya's husband, how come you could not control your anger despite knowing all gyana 5. how Rama stops horse from sacrifice and convinces people to stay away from superstitions 6. what kind of turmoil happened in Ayodhya between dasaradh and Kaika, when she decided to send bharat to brother's place to make him grow out of Rama's shadow 7. how Rama sends msg to Family about Swayamvar and how he convinces Kaika with personal letter to get her acceptance 8. how all queens disappoint when ayodhya's rules prohibit from attending marriage, and Janaka gets surprised to see no mom attending 9. How dasaradh, suddenly proposes all 4 marriages, looking at the beautiful brought up of all 4 cousin sisters 10. How Bharat's wife initially gets upset, as her consent was not taken for marrige 9. How janaka inspite of being rajarshi, gets emotional to see of her daughters and Rama asks him to take his own time |
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Cinejeevi
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Vishvak:My doubt is on the way Rama killed Vaali... If that is justified then why fighting with Ravana to get Sita... He could have got Sita first, with Hanuma help, and then fight with Ravana to punish him right?
looks like u never read/heard ramayana  vaali being in adharma and also being an animal can be killed from a side instead of face to face. when Hanuma sees Sita he offers to take her to Rama from there, to which Sita says, let Rama be the man, kill Ravana and take me.  Also she says willingly/knowingly I will Never touch anya purusha though you treat me like ur mother uttamE kshana kOpasya madhyamE ghatikaa dwayam adhamE dahOraatram paapishTE maraNantakaha !!!
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Cinejeevi:influence of bad movies ani balla guddi cheppagalanu. why did u kill me ani Vaali himself asked Rama, to which he gave excellent replies and Vaali is convinced himself before death.
My doubt is on the way Rama killed Vaali... If that is justified then why fighting with Ravana to get Sita... He could have got Sita first, with Hanuma help, and then fight with Ravana to punish him right? Vi veri universum vivus vici My Blog: The Power Of One |
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Last_avataar:recent Ramayan in National TV, is a through research on Ramayan with more realistic details of Mithula. it was hown they have a glimse of each other
intaki Mithila ekkada undi annaru vaallu? Nepal lo Janakpuri ane vooru untundi, where they say sita is born here I go by available valmiki ramayana which is been accepted by various scholars rather than "MEDIA" uttamE kshana kOpasya madhyamE ghatikaa dwayam adhamE dahOraatram paapishTE maraNantakaha !!!
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Post Number: 8308 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 12.10.219.222
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Cinejeevi:
recent Ramayan in National TV, is a through research on Ramayan with more realistic details of Mithula. it was hown they have a glimse of each other |
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Cinejeevi
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Post Number: 4912 Registered: 10-2014 Posted From: 72.166.89.74
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Vishvak:Konni ghattalu valla character ki taggattu anipinchavu... Like killing of Vali and cutting the ears/nose of Shoorpanaka etc...
influence of bad movies ani balla guddi cheppagalanu. why did u kill me ani Vaali himself asked Rama, to which he gave excellent replies and Vaali is convinced himself before death. But our own so called "medhavulu" are NOT and still making novels/movies on that episode. With regard to Soorpanakha episode, she tells in one of the conversations that she can hear sounds from miles and can smell humans living far. We can lead superb life if u marry me. Then she comes to Kill Sita and then Rama asks Lakshmana to punish her. Since her strength is her ears and nose, lakshmana cuts those off to make her kuroopi. Lakshmana also takes off ears and nose to another demon during their journey. Looks like that is royal punishment those days... uttamE kshana kOpasya madhyamE ghatikaa dwayam adhamE dahOraatram paapishTE maraNantakaha !!!
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Post Number: 4911 Registered: 10-2014 Posted From: 72.166.89.74
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Last_avataar:They meet on their way, gets a glimpse of each other
Thanks god Boddu Babai did not make a movie on this episode. Cannot imagine what would have been the dream sequence   uttamE kshana kOpasya madhyamE ghatikaa dwayam adhamE dahOraatram paapishTE maraNantakaha !!!
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Post Number: 4922 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 104.129.194.124
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Cinejeevi:looks like u have a "prejudice" in mind and throwing up comments.
Emo annai... Konni ghattalu valla character ki taggattu anipinchavu... Like killing of Vali and cutting the ears/nose of Shoorpanaka etc... Vi veri universum vivus vici My Blog: The Power Of One |
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Post Number: 6584 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 68.128.160.191
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Last_avataar:Rama and Sita looks at each other before Swayamvar, he gets attracted and asks Viswamitra, i always treat other women with purity of mind , but why i am attracted to a women first time.
This is never mentioned in Valmiki ramayanam and is pure conjecture in other interpretations In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day |
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Post Number: 6583 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 68.128.160.191
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Vishvak:Vishwamitrudu abaddam cheppakoodadu and nijanni daayakoodadu kada being a rishi... Aa nijam is going to effect the life of many... But still he went ahead and told half information to Rama... Ikkdada exception is 'keeping larger interests' in mind...
Why do you think Vishwamitra? Does vishwamitra not have the skill to take care of Marichi and subahu and tataka? He is a brahmarishi who created a separate swargam for Trishanku. So why did he take Sri Rama and Lakshmana? It is all towards the ultimate goal of Ravana samharam. Also why did he take Sri Rama and Lakshmana to Mithila from siddhashrama instead of going back to Kosala? Vishamitra has attained trikala gnana due to his tapassu and he knows the sequence of events that need to happen. In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day |
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Post Number: 8307 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 12.10.219.222
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Cinejeevi:
Movies esukuni kadu. it is authentic They meet on their way, gets a glimpse of each other |
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Post Number: 4906 Registered: 10-2014 Posted From: 72.166.89.74
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Last_avataar:Rama and Sita looks at each other before Swayamvar, he gets attracted and asks Viswamitra, i always treat other women with purity of mind , but why i am attracted to a women first time.
if the source is any Movie then, I am out continuing   uttamE kshana kOpasya madhyamE ghatikaa dwayam adhamE dahOraatram paapishTE maraNantakaha !!!
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Post Number: 4905 Registered: 10-2014 Posted From: 72.166.89.74
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Vishvak:Vishwamitrudu abaddam cheppakoodadu and nijanni daayakoodadu kada being a rishi... Aa nijam is going to effect the life of many... But still he went ahead and told half information to Rama... Ikkdada exception is 'keeping larger interests' in mind...
looks like u have a "prejudice" in mind and throwing up comments. Viswamitra after his own yagnam is done, asks Rama let's go to mithila where Janaka is also doing a major yagnam (otherwise Rama may say your yajnam is done, lets go back to Ayodhya). And second reason is the bow. above all another interpretation of the whole episode is, Viswamitra is now care take of Rama and a Guru has every right including that of Father (some situations) and could take Rama per his wish, to which Rama has to oblige. At the same time viswamitra with in his limits did NOT ask or say anything about subsequent thing after bow break  So even if Viswamitra says something to Rama about marriage under the sishya dharma Rama would have accepted. But Viswamitra just avoided that situation   uttamE kshana kOpasya madhyamE ghatikaa dwayam adhamE dahOraatram paapishTE maraNantakaha !!!
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Vishvak:
Rama and Sita looks at each other before Swayamvar, he gets attracted and asks Viswamitra, i always treat other women with purity of mind , but why i am attracted to a women first time. Rama just followed the instruction of Guru to try for it. He has no intention to break it. Actually the competition is only to lift and tie the string. As Rama is doing that after tying it breaks as per Siva's will |
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Post Number: 4921 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 104.129.194.124
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Okahyderabadi:Exceptions eummunayi akkada.
Vishwamitrudu abaddam cheppakoodadu and nijanni daayakoodadu kada being a rishi... Aa nijam is going to effect the life of many... But still he went ahead and told half information to Rama... Ikkdada exception is 'keeping larger interests' in mind... Vi veri universum vivus vici My Blog: The Power Of One |
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Post Number: 6582 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 68.128.160.191
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Vishvak:Ee mythological characters lo vintaga anipinchedi ide... They define something and then exceptions to keep that character...
Exceptions eummunayi akkada. In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day |
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Post Number: 4920 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 104.129.194.124
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Cinejeevi: being brahmarshi viswamitra knows what happens ahead. So he is a tool in that. However being a born kshatriya himself obviously he would want that bow to be seen by his Sishya (rama). villu viravaDam is kshatriya dharmam/parakramam. adi cheste sita ni varinchavachchu anedi "anushangika prayojanam" which is not told by Viswamitra and Rama is not interested either. However it was told by Janaka and at that time Rama cannot/will not say then I won't touch because, if I break it i may have to marry. He sees both as seperate
Ee mythological characters lo vintaga anipinchedi ide... They define something and then exceptions to keep that character... Vi veri universum vivus vici My Blog: The Power Of One |
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Post Number: 6580 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 68.128.160.191
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Speaker:Seetha ki Ravanudu etavutaadu???? ennellu attipettukunnaadu Seetha ni Ravanudu Lankalo?
14th year of exile - 1 year
Speaker:Raavanudu Seetha ni lankalo attipettukuni, aakali teerchinanduku Tandri avutaada??? leka tana bartha nunchi kidnap chesi tana daggira pettukunnanduku Rakshasudavutaada??? oka vela Rakshasude andura...mari Siva Bhakti eda ninchi ochinadi???? Rakshasulu Sivudini enduku pookinchavale????
Ravanudu evaru : vishravasuni kumarudu Visravasudu evaru: Pulatsya brahma kumarudu Pulatsya Brahma evaru: Brahma manasa putrudu one of the prajapatis Ravanasuridi asalu peru enti ? - Dasagriva Pulatsya brahma ki iddaru kumarulu - Agastyudu, viswarasudu vishwarasudu maha tapassu chestuntadu eppudu so evvaru atanni disturb cheyakoodadu ani oka niyamam pedatadu - evaraina maidens kanuka naa ashrama paridhi loki vaste nenu choodadamu jarigite vallaki pregnancy vastundi ani. So once this is known no maidens go near his ashramam and he is performing his penance. Ilavida - bharadvaja putri oka sari tana chelikattelani vetuku tu rishi ashramaniki vastundi and he sees her and his niyamam takes effect. When bharadwaja muni comes to know of this he sees what happened through his divya drushti and asks Vishravas to marry her - thus Kubera is born. Ayana 1000 years brahma gurinchi tapass chesaru dharmam kosam. Brahma pratyaksham ayyi emi kavali ani adigadu. Dharmam kosam chesanu kani meeru vacharu kabatti naaku oka loka palakudiga position ivvandi, so he was given dhanamu adhipathi. Kuberudi ki ela lanka pattanam vachindi anedi inko story. Inka ravanudi jananam: How is he born? - sumali almost mottam rakshasa jaati antarinchi poyindi (vishnu samharinchina taruvata) so we need a strong to continue our race ani he is thinking. Alanti time lo he sees kubera and vishvaraso brahma deggariki veltadu. Vishwarso brahma valla kodukuni kante kanaka maa jaati kooda mahonnatamga untundi ani. He goes to his daugher kaikasi and asks her to go to vishwarobrahma and ask for children. Kaikasi goes to vishwaraso brahma and tells what she wants , the time she went to him was in the evening (sandhya velalo). Vishwaraso brahma tells her nuvvu ee time lo vachavu kada neeku parama loka kantakudaina putrudu janmistadu ani cheptadu. She tells him I need a son who is dharmatmudu not a loka kantakudu. Naku alanti son ni ivvu ani adugutundi, so night time ayedaka she has two more children ravana, kunbhakarna, shoorpanakha, final ga night time lo vibhishanudu dharmatmudiga pudatadu. Ravana's actual name is dasagriva given by Pulatsya brahma. Kaikasi cheptundi pillalaki meeru tapassu cheyandi so that meeru dharmamga naduchukovacchu ani. So vallu tapassu chestaru vela samvatsararu gokarnam lo - brahma vastaru as usual - maranam lekunda varam ivvandi antadu dasagrivudu - kudaradu antaru brahma - so evvari valla mrutyu lekunda varam ivvani - manushyulu or narulu valla kakunda evvaritho vaddu antaru.. Dasagrivudu inka malla next sivudi gurinchi tapassu ( vishnu being the eternal enemy he would not be a choice). So thats how he becomes shivudi bhaktudu. So dasagrivudu inka start troubling the lokam in the process he takes over lanka pattanam and also takes the pushpaka vimanam. Inka dasagrivudu oka sari kailasam meedu ga veltuntadu but pushpaka vimanam munduki velladu he wonders why and comes down and asks nandi - nandi antaru sivudu parvati ekantam lo unnaru vellataniki veelu ledu ani - danito dasagrividu arrogance lo - kailasam ni kadilistanu ani he starts to move it - maha tapassandu kabatti he is able to move kailsam - sivudu botana veli ni nokki pedatadu - ravana is stuck under kailasam for 1000 years and parama deenam ga edustadu. Ayana pade badhani tattukoleka chese sounds valla lokam hadali poyindi so final ga sivudu karuna tho vadileso ravana ani pilichadu - ala vachindi ayanaki Ravana ani peru. Dasagrivudu turning to ravana In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day |
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Post Number: 4899 Registered: 10-2014 Posted From: 72.166.89.74
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Vishvak:Ala aithe Vishwamitrudu Ramunni mosam chesinatte kada?
being brahmarshi viswamitra knows what happens ahead. So he is a tool in that. However being a born kshatriya himself obviously he would want that bow to be seen by his Sishya (rama). villu viravaDam is kshatriya dharmam/parakramam. adi cheste sita ni varinchavachchu anedi "anushangika prayojanam" which is not told by Viswamitra and Rama is not interested either. However it was told by Janaka and at that time Rama cannot/will not say then I won't touch because, if I break it i may have to marry. He sees both as seperate   uttamE kshana kOpasya madhyamE ghatikaa dwayam adhamE dahOraatram paapishTE maraNantakaha !!!
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Speaker:Raman - Raama Raama, Mods edit seyyandayya...Pedda Siva Bhaktudini... Sambo Siva Sambo... Sivayya...ee paapini kshamanichavayya... j pakkane k undi porapaatu chesaanayya...
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Raman - Raama Raama, Mods edit seyyandayya...Pedda Siva Bhaktudini... Sambo Siva Sambo... Sivayya...ee paapini kshamanichavayya... j pakkane k undi porapaatu chesaanayya... Oka aalochana medilindi..aa aalochane nannu ennukundi..kaabatte ee post padindi. |
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Speaker:neeyavva...prathi daaniki caste angele ee neeku....malgudi maidanam batch antha eedane unnaaaaru....
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Cinejeevi:without the consent of my Father i will NOT marry is what Rama said. Viswamitra knows that Rama will say that, hence he did not mention anything about swayamvaram
Ala aithe Vishwamitrudu Ramunni mosam chesinatte kada? Vi veri universum vivus vici My Blog: The Power Of One |
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inko 16 kodithe 100 thread avuthundi Vishvak thammud aakul satisfied.. kaavuna prajalara askandi, answerandi ravanasurudi pad thalal ela pani chesthay - how is thought process divided there |
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Speaker:Raavanudu Seetha ni lankalo attipettukuni, aakali teerchinanduku Tandri avutaada??? leka tana bartha nunchi kidnap chesi tana daggira pettukunnanduku Rakshasudavutaada??? oka vela Rakshasude andura...mari Siva Bhakti eda ninchi ochinadi???? Rakshasulu Sivudini enduku pookinchavale????
1) Sita did NOT eat a single grain from Lanka. Indra gave her special payasam during her stay. 2) kachchitanga he is a demon 3) bhakti ravadaniki, rakshasudiki relation emi undi? many of us are bhaktas  rakshasulu sivudini poojincharu. basic gaa brahma gurinchi tapassu chesi varalu pondutaaru. for that matter king from Rama clan called Bhageeradha also did tapassu for Siva   uttamE kshana kOpasya madhyamE ghatikaa dwayam adhamE dahOraatram paapishTE maraNantakaha !!!
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Speaker:pookinchavale
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Brodipet_baadshah - hey....adi oka pravachanam lo...oka peddayana cheppina angle... vaadana lo tarkaaniki chotu ledannaadu aayana.... neeyavva...prathi daaniki caste angele ee neeku....malgudi maidanam batch antha eedane unnaaaaru.... Oka aalochana medilindi..aa aalochane nannu ennukundi..kaabatte ee post padindi. |
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Speaker:Raavanudu Seetha ni lankalo attipettukuni, aakali teerchinanduku Tandri avutaada???
enti kidnap chesi bandhisthe aakali theerchinattaa??roflmaooo...ee storynikuda maarchesi ntrgaaru mvie theesaara enti?manam valmiki ramayanamkante vyasa maharshi bharathamkante ntr mvieseegaa sources... |
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Raavanudu Seetha ni lankalo attipettukuni, aakali teerchinanduku Tandri avutaada??? leka tana bartha nunchi kidnap chesi tana daggira pettukunnanduku Rakshasudavutaada??? oka vela Rakshasude andura...mari Siva Bhakti eda ninchi ochinadi???? Rakshasulu Sivudini enduku pookinchavale???? Oka aalochana medilindi..aa aalochane nannu ennukundi..kaabatte ee post padindi. |
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Speaker:Seetha ki Ravanudu etavutaadu???? ennellu attipettukunnaadu Seetha ni Ravanudu Lankalo?
lankalo 1 year...inka seetha ki ravanudu emi kaadu... |
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Seetha ki Ravanudu etavutaadu???? ennellu attipettukunnaadu Seetha ni Ravanudu Lankalo? Oka aalochana medilindi..aa aalochane nannu ennukundi..kaabatte ee post padindi. |
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Post Number: 6577 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 68.128.160.191
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Goonda:good to know brother!! DB threads are like box of chocolates you know, you pick that you like ani oka pedda manishi chepparu. i choose which threads i participate... some threads i don't even date to open just by title!!
I agree, I only pick threads that interest me , sometimes i do get in to some threads I should not be in ( triyng to make a conscious effort not to do that ). In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day |
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Thikka_sankara:of course, I dont blame you but will definitely question you... Yes, the intention of the thread was from Rama -Dasaratha pov... It was you who brought Sita into picture saying it was Sita's choice, which Rama accepted and hence Dadaratha's decision was irrelevant.... So, I will question you on that stand.... Answer if you can: 1) show me evidence where it's mentioned that Sita participated in what u r calling as swayamvara 2) was Sita being declared as bounty a decision taken by Sita or by Janaka? 3) had someone else lifted and aimed the dhanas, what would've Sita done? 4) did Sita even know if and when Rama was aiming the dhanassu? 5) when did Sita and Rama knew each other and when is the first time Sita acknowledged the marriage with Rama(if varamala was decorated, it should be right at that moment, so when?) 6) what do you think is the age of Sita by the time of marriage?
brother cool down, the questions are good if somebody has a contrary point of view its fine we should try and explain what we know or point to the right references. The issue is there are different interpretations of Ramayana by different poets overs the millenia and each one has its own flavours. He has some interpretation which may be taken from another reference or based on his understanding. So lets have a genuine discussion on finding out the right one if we can In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day |
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Dts: O Sage if Rama could lift and string this bow I shall give my daughter Sita, not born from a woman, to him (son of Dasaratha)".� à ¤�à ¤¤à ¥�à ¤¯à ¤¾à ¤°à ¥�à ¤·à ¥� à ¤¶à ¥�à ¤°à ¥�à ¤®à ¤¦à ¥�à ¤°à ¤¾à  ¤Â®Ã ¤¾à ¤¯à ¤£à ¥� à ¤µà ¤¾à ¤²à ¥�à ¤®à ¥�à ¤�à ¥�à ¤¯ à ¤�à ¤¦à ¤¿à ¤�à ¤¾à ¤µà ¥�à ¤¯à ¥� à ¤¬à ¤¾à ¤²à ¤�à ¤¾à ¤£à ¥�à ¤¡à ¥� à ¤·à ¤�à ¥�à ¤·à ¤·à ¥�à ¤�à ¤¿à ¤¤à ¤®à ¤¸à ¥�à ¤¸à ¤°à ¥�à ¤�:à ¥¤à ¥¤ Thus ends the sixtysixth sarga of Balakanda of the holy Ramayana the first epic composed by sage Valmiki.
So ikkada evaru evariki cheptunnaru? Situation is like this: Janaka welcomes vishwamitra and prays to him and asks him please command me on what I can do - anugna ivvandi .... Vishwamitra says: Dasharatha putrulu shiva chapam choodataniki vacharu, choopiste choosi velli potaru : 'putro daasharahtasyemou kshatriyo loka vishruto dushtukaamo dhanu shreshtam etat tvayi thistathi' annaru Janakudu aa divya chapam history cheptunnaru --- you know the story i think you can read about it and it finally got in to the custody of devaratha who is the descendent of Nimi and has been with us since then. Ayonija aina seeta ni I have decided to give to only those who had unsurpassable valor. slokan sarga 66 lo untundi - 1.66.14 'Arisen from the earth and not from a mother's womb, she grew up as my daughter. I made a stipulation that (this shall be the means to win this maiden as a gift) this shall be given in marriage only to the prince whose prowess is fully tried.' 1.66.15 & 1.66.16 : chaala kings vacharu tanani pelladalani 1.66.17 & 1.66.18 - vallani test cheyadaniki shiva chapam tecchi valla mundu pettamu to see if they can lift it. 1.66.19 & 1.66.20,1.66.22,1.66.22 - Failing to lift the bow they all waged war against me and oka one year paatu they laid seige to my country and we started becoming weak. Then I prayed to the devas with the help of deva army defeated them. 1.66.25 : meeru rishillone maha rishilu, meeku rama lakshmanulaku ee dhanassu choopistanu 1.66.26 O Sage if Rama could lift and string this bow I shall give my daughter Sita, not born from a woman, to him (son of Dasaratha)". So this conversation is between Janaka and Vishwamitra 1.67.1: At the words of Janaka, great ascetic Viswamitra said to the king, "Let the bow be shown to Rama". 5000 soldiers pulled the cart on which the box containing the chapam was placed and brought it. 1.67.8 : "O Brahman in the olden days, this great bow was worshipped by my forefathers. Powerful kings failed to string this bow. 1.67.9: Hosts of devatas, asuras, rakhasas, kinnaras and great serpents, the best of gandharvas and yakshas, also failed (to wield this bow). 1.67.10: How then can men bend, string, fix the arrow, pull the string and lift it? 1.67.11: O Eminent ascetic such heaviest bow is brought here, O Highly accomplished sage show this to the two princes". 1.67.12: Having heard the words of Janaka, the righteous Viswamitra said: "O Child O Descendant of Raghu look at this bow". 1.67.14: "O Brahmarshi, shall I touch this great bow with my hands lift and string it". 1.67.15: The king as also the rishi said "Be it so". At the words of the sage (Viswamitra), he (Rama) took hold of the bow by the its middle with ease: fast forward 1.67.22 : By receiving Rama, son of Dasaratha, as her husband, my daughter Sita will bring glory to my dynasty. 1.67.23 : O Son of Kausika I announce Sita to be the 'Reward of prowess'. My vow has come true. She is more valuable than my life and fit to be given to Rama. 1.67.24 & 1.67.25 : O Brahmarshi Kausika, be blessed With your consent my ministers will take the chariots to Ayodhya immediately. That Sita, the reward of prowess is to be given to Rama be reventially communicated in detail to king Dasaratha and he may be conveyed here. That is what is described in Valmiki ramayana. No where there is a mention of sita being offered as a reward directly to Rama that too for lifting the bow until he actually done it. Even after that he says will send emissaries to Ayodhya to get Dasharadha's blessings and invite him here. All other interpretations from all other poets are just interpretations of the poets, they all add to the beauty of ramayanam in their own way but Valmiki ramayama stands above all. In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day |
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from Rama's point of view, as Kshatriya I should take up a challenge and I took it. If there is an extra benefit out of it which is something like marriage, i don't care/know but will obey if my father says OK. without the consent of my Father i will NOT marry is what Rama said. Viswamitra knows that Rama will say that, hence he did not mention anything about swayamvaram. btw there is no mention of any queens of dasaradha in the marriage ceremony. Some say they did not go (or per their tradition those days did not go). However dasaradha gave lot of danams before marriage and to do all those he needs to have his dharma patni next, we can infer/assume that queens were there. samSaya laabham uttamE kshana kOpasya madhyamE ghatikaa dwayam adhamE dahOraatram paapishTE maraNantakaha !!!
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there were some garbage in my copy from valmikiramayana.net, where Sita tells Anasuya about her marriage how it happened and what exactly happened during/after siva dhanurbhangam. When Dasaradha tells Rama and Lakshmana to go with Sage Viswamitra, he says from now onwards Viswamitra is your guru/father and everything. Please follow what he says. Hence Rama killed taaTaki. after that the purpose is done externally. But viswamitra's intention is different. so he asks Rama, lets go to Mithila. If he says there is swayamvaram etc., then Rama will say, if that is the case let me check with my Dad. So Viswamitra simply says there is a dhanush and i need you to see it. Per kshatriya dharma now Rama cannot say NO. Even when Viswamitra tells Janaka that rama wants to see the bow, Janaka describes the whole story including whoever breaks it will get Sita. Here comes the twist from all (in)famous cine directors who twisted the original version and started band baaja  after breaking bow. uttamE kshana kOpasya madhyamE ghatikaa dwayam adhamE dahOraatram paapishTE maraNantakaha !!!
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tato aham tatra rÄmÄya pitrÄ satya abhisaṃdhinÄ | udyatÄ dÄtum udyamya jala bhÄjanam uttamam || 2-118-50 50. tataH = then; tatra = and there; pitraa = by my father; satyaabhisandhinaa = who was true to his promise; nishchitaa = it was decided; daatum = to give; aham = me; raamaaya = to Rama; udyamya = offering him; jalabhaajanam = of jar of pure water. "Then and there, my father true to his promise decided to bestow me on Rama, offering him a jar of pure water." Verse Locator dÄ«yamÄnÄm na tu tadÄ pratijagrÄha rÄghavaḥ | avijnÄya pituḥ candam ayodhyÄ adhipateḥ prabhoḥ || 2-118-51 51. tadaa = then; raaghavaH = Rama; na tu pratijagraaha = did not consent to accept; diiyamaanaam = me who was being offered to him; avijJNaaya = withut knowing; chhandam = the opinion; pituH = of his father; prabhoH = the Lord; ayodhyaadhipateH = and the king of Ayodhya. "But Rama did not consent to accept my hand till the will of his father, the Lord and the king of Ayodhya had been made known to him." Verse Locator tataḥ Å›vaÅ›uram Ämantrya vá¹›ddham daÅ›aratham ná¹›pam | mama pitrÄ aham dattÄ rÄmÄya vidita Ätmane || 2-118-52 52. tataH = thereupon; mama pitraa = by my father; shvashuram = my father -in-law; vR^iddham = and the aged; dasharatham nR^ipam = king Dasaratha; aamantrya = was invited; aham = I; dattaa = was given; raamaaya = to Rama; viditaatmane = the knower of the self. Thereupon, my father-in-law and the aged Dasaratha was invited to Mithila by my father and with his approval, I was bestowed on Rama, the knower of the self." uttamE kshana kOpasya madhyamE ghatikaa dwayam adhamE dahOraatram paapishTE maraNantakaha !!!
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Dts: Don't blame me.
of course, I dont blame you but will definitely question you... Yes, the intention of the thread was from Rama -Dasaratha pov... It was you who brought Sita into picture saying it was Sita's choice, which Rama accepted and hence Dadaratha's decision was irrelevant.... So, I will question you on that stand.... Answer if you can: 1) show me evidence where it's mentioned that Sita participated in what u r calling as swayamvara 2) was Sita being declared as bounty a decision taken by Sita or by Janaka? 3) had someone else lifted and aimed the dhanas, what would've Sita done? 4) did Sita even know if and when Rama was aiming the dhanassu? 5) when did Sita and Rama knew each other and when is the first time Sita acknowledged the marriage with Rama(if varamala was decorated, it should be right at that moment, so when?) 6) what do you think is the age of Sita by the time of marriage? methavulaki venkayya jawaabu.... https://youtu.be/fUafzTD37sY
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Stellar:Narada character fictional ani kavi bhavam
not in this case as ramayana opens with a solid description of narada. కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
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Thikka_sankara:focus varamala nunchi swayamvaram meedaki maarchaava?? Still naa question same... Seetha swayamvaram anna reference teesukuraa.....
Vishvak:Did Dasaradha knew about Rama's participation in Sita swayamvaram? If not it will mean that Rama married without his fathers permission? Most of the versions I read says Dasaradha is happy after knowing Rama's success in the swayamvaram...
That's the intent of this thread. Don't blame me. Maybe you are trying to impose what we follow up on the epics; that you look 5 matches and select one girl. therefore you'd send 4 rejection letters saying my father did not like or horoscope didn't match etc. But it's not true for those who follow sanatana-dharma especially rama who is known as vigrahavan dharma. He knew about bounty before he could touch the shiva-dhanassu. కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
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Dts:Valmiki came to know about Rama through Narada
Narada character fictional ani kavi bhavam  |
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Dts: I don't understand
aaaa mukka mem anaali Dts:by the way what's the meaning of swayamvaram
focus varamala nunchi swayamvaram meedaki maarchaava?? Still naa question same... Seetha swayamvaram anna reference teesukuraa..... methavulaki venkayya jawaabu.... https://youtu.be/fUafzTD37sY
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Thikka_sankara:
I don't understand - by the way what's the meaning of swayamvaram? it literally mean choosing the groom by self. Each swayamvaram has a rule that groom (or vara in Sanskrit) has to fulfill. Once it is satisfied than the vara would be the chosen. In movies or dramas they symbolically show this as girl offering garland to boy - but literally it may not happen. Understand the gist of it. కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
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Dts:You are saying it as varamala and I just wanted to use your words; t
Dts:that too once a girl chooses a man then he should not refuse her unless he is not eligible to marry due to masculine issues. In the case of ramayana, once sita offers varamala, rama is bound to marry her. the message sent to darasharatha was not to seek his permission but it was wedding invitation. this is as per balakanda.
Neeko dannam saami....this is your first post in the thread.... methavulaki venkayya jawaabu.... https://youtu.be/fUafzTD37sY
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Thikka_sankara: Varamala Sita vesindi so it's between Sita and rama antav.... Where is varamala ante dramatization antaav....
You are saying it as varamala and I just wanted to use your words; the actual word valmiki used is veerya-shulkaa (the bounty of the bravery) Given any swayamvara it's between the boy and girl. Parents won't come into play not only ramayana.
Thikka_sankara: Swayamvaram is b/w girl and boy hence parents irrelevant antaav...
Yes; their role comes in wedding not in swayamvaram.
Thikka_sankara: Ramudiki teleedu ante teleekapoina rule undi kaabatti it's b/w rama and Sita antaav...
Rama knows as Janaka tells the story and the bounty for three of Vishwamitra, rama and laxmana; there was no secret meeting between vishwamitra and janaka alone.
Thikka_sankara:Again, what are you trying to prove??? Sita picture lo ledu, ramudiki vishayam teleedu.... Vishwamitrudu chepthe villu etthadu.... Adi virigithe marriage annadi janskudu.... Adikooda viswamitrudu permission teesukuni dasarath ki message pampadu...
lot of kings waged war against mithila for sita; do you still think sita is ignorant of all this?
Thikka_sankara:Dasarathudu and family ochhaka andari sammatham and samaksham lone pellayyindi.... You can twist it as much as you want.... B/w pelli time ki sita ramula age entho idea undaa??
The family attended wedding ceremony - they have not just come to mithila just to give permission; కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
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Okahyderabadi:
Here are the citations from your link: à¤à¤¤à¤¦à¥à¤¦à¤°à¥à¤¶à¤¯ à¤à¤¦à¥à¤°à¤‚ ते कृतकामौ नृपातà¥à¤®à¤œà¥Œà¥¤ दरà¥à¤¶à¤¨à¤¾à¤¦à¤¸à¥à¤¯ धनà¥à¤·à¥‹ यथेषà¥à¤Ÿà¤‚ पà¥à¤°à¤¤à¤¿à¤¯à¤¾à¤¸à¥à¤¯à¤¤:।।1.66.6।। à¤à¤¤à¤¤à¥ this bow, दरà¥à¤¶à¤¯ show, ते à¤à¤¦à¥à¤°à¤‚ prosperity to you, असà¥à¤¯ धनà¥à¤·: this bow's, दरà¥à¤¶à¤¨à¤¾à¤¤à¥ on seeing it, कृतकामौ having fulfilled their desire, नृपातà¥à¤®à¤œà¥Œ these two princes, यथेषà¥à¤Ÿà¤®à¥ as they wish, पà¥à¤°à¤¤à¤¿à¤¯à¤¾à¤¸à¥à¤¯à¤¤: will return. Be blessed. Show this great bow to the princes. This is their desire. Once it is fulfilled, they will go back. ......… यदà¥à¤¯à¤¸à¥à¤¯ धनà¥à¤·à¥‹ राम: कà¥à¤°à¥à¤¯à¤¾à¤¦à¤¾à¤°à¥‹à¤ªà¤£à¤‚ मà¥à¤¨à¥‡à¥¤ सà¥à¤¤à¤¾à¤®à¤¯à¥‹à¤¨à¤¿à¤œà¤¾à¤‚ सीतां ददà¥à¤¯à¤¾à¤‚ दाशरथेरहमà¥à¥¤à¥¤1.66.26।। मà¥à¤¨à¥‡ O Sage, राम: Rama, असà¥à¤¯ this, धनà¥à¤·: bow's, आरोपणमॠlifting, कà¥à¤°à¥à¤¯à¤¾à¤¦à¥à¤¯à¤¦à¤¿ if he could do, अयोनिजामॠthis girl born without a mother, सà¥à¤¤à¤¾à¤®à¥ daughter, सीतामॠSita, अहमॠI, दाशरथे: for Rama, ददà¥à¤¯à¤¾à¤®à¥ shall give. O Sage if Rama could lift and string this bow I shall give my daughter Sita, not born from a woman, to him (son of Dasaratha)". इतà¥à¤¯à¤¾à¤°à¥à¤·à¥‡ शà¥à¤°à¥€à¤®à¤¦à¥à¤°à¤¾à¤®à¤¾à¤¯à¤£à¥‡ वालà¥à¤®à¥€à¤•ीय आदिकावà¥à¤¯à¥‡ बालकाणà¥à¤¡à¥‡ षटà¥à¤·à¤·à¥à¤Ÿà¤¿à¤¤à¤®à¤¸à¥à¤¸à¤°à¥à¤—:।। Thus ends the sixtysixth sarga of Balakanda of the holy Ramayana the first epic composed by sage Valmiki. ……. राजानं पà¥à¤°à¤¶à¥à¤°à¤¿à¤¤à¥ˆà¤°à¥à¤µà¤¾à¤•à¥à¤¯à¥ˆà¤°à¤¾à¤¨ यनà¥à¤¤à¥ पà¥à¤°à¤‚ मम। पà¥à¤°à¤¦à¤¾à¤¨à¤‚ वीरà¥à¤¯à¤¶à¥à¤²à¥à¤•ाया: कथयनà¥à¤¤à¥ च सरà¥à¤µà¤¶:।।1.67.25।। वीरà¥à¤¯à¤¶à¥à¤²à¥à¤•ाया: Sita, the reward of prowess, पà¥à¤°à¤¦à¤¾à¤¨à¤®à¥ for offering to Rama, सरà¥à¤µà¤¶: in detail, कथयनà¥à¤¤à¥ they may be communicated, पà¥à¤°à¤¶à¥à¤°à¤¿à¤¤à¥ˆ: with reverential, वाकà¥à¤¯à¥ˆ: words, राजानमॠking Dasaratha, मम my, पà¥à¤°à¤®à¥ city, आनयनà¥à¤¤à¥ bring him here. That Sita, the reward of prowess is to be given to Rama be reventially communicated in detail to king Dasaratha and he may be conveyed here. కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
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Dts:janaka as many kings already declared war against janaka asking sita. So the rule is rule whether you did it knowingly or unknowingly.
what are you trying to prove??? Varamala Sita vesindi so it's between Sita and rama antav.... Where is varamala ante dramatization antaav.... Swayamvaram is b/w girl and boy hence parents irrelevant antaav... Ramudiki teleedu ante teleekapoina rule undi kaabatti it's b/w rama and Sita antaav... Again, what are you trying to prove??? Sita picture lo ledu, ramudiki vishayam teleedu.... Vishwamitrudu chepthe villu etthadu.... Adi virigithe marriage annadi janskudu.... Adikooda viswamitrudu permission teesukuni dasarath ki message pampadu.... Dasarathudu and family ochhaka andari sammatham and samaksham lone pellayyindi.... You can twist it as much as you want.... B/w pelli time ki sita ramula age entho idea undaa?? methavulaki venkayya jawaabu.... https://youtu.be/fUafzTD37sY
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Okahyderabadi:This conversation is between Vishwamitra and Janaka and not Rama. Vishwamitra is the prime player in this whole episode he never lets Rama know about the condition of marriage before.
Both the sites are on valmiki ramayana; I don't know hindi but I know sanskrit. I also read Professor Pullela Sriramachandrudu's explanation. There are some local variations between northern indian vs southern india; other than that valmiki ramayana's are the same. Vishwamithra did not hide rama and laxmana when talking to janaka. All the three were present before janaka; in-fact Vishwamitra tells janaka that these are sons of dhasharatha and wants to see shiva dhannassu then janaka actually tells the background. కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
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Dts: Here you go: janaka tells vishwamitra, rama and lakshmana before they could see the bow about it's background that he would give sita in marrage if the bow is lifted and aligned. "à ¤¯à ¤¦à ¤¿ à ¤�à ¤¸à ¥�à ¤¯ à ¤§à ¤¨à ¥�à ¤·à ¥� à ¤°à ¤¾à ¤®à ¤� à ¤�à ¥�à ¤°à ¥�à ¤¯à ¤¾à ¤¤à ¥� à ¤�à ¤°à ¥�à ¤ªà ¤£à ¤®à ¥� à ¤®à ¥�à ¤¨à ¥� | à ¤¸à ¥�à ¤¤à ¤¾à ¤®à ¥� à ¤�à ¤¯à ¥�à ¤¨à ¤¿à ¤�à ¤¾à ¤®à ¥� à ¤¸à ¥�à ¤¤à ¤¾à ¤®à ¥� à ¤¦à ¤¦à ¥�à ¤¯à ¤¾à ¤®à ¥� à ¤¦à ¤¾à ¤¶à ¤°à ¤¥à ¥�à ¤� à ¤�à ¤¹à ¤®à ¥� || à ¥§-à ¥¬à ¥¬-à ¥¨à ¥¬ 26b, c yadi = if; asya dhanuSaH = that, of bow; raamaH = Rama; kuryaat aaropaNam = does [strings,] bowstring; mune = oh, sage; sutaam a yoni jaam siitaam = daughter, non-, uterine, birthed, Seetha; dadyaam = I offer; daasharatheH = to Dasharatha's [son]; aham = I will. "If Rama strings the bowstring of that bow, oh, sage, I will offer my daughter, whose birth is non-uterine, to Dasharatha's Rama..." [So said Janaka to Vishvamitra.] [1-66-26b, c]"
This conversation is between Vishwamitra and Janaka and not Rama. Vishwamitra is the prime player in this whole episode he never lets Rama know about the condition of marriage before. In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day |
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Dts:Rama denying janaka's offer is not written on valmiki ramayana. The http://www.valmikiramayan.net has the balakanda. The dramatization you mentioned is not there. Yes, Vishwamitra did not tell rama that he's going to a swayamvaram. But the rule is already set by janaka as many kings already declared war against janaka asking sita. So the rule is rule whether you did it knowingly or unknowingly.
Brother there is no mention this at all anywhere in valmiki ramayanam. I have valmiki ramayam at home and often refer to it online here https://www.valmiki.iitk.ac.in slokas related to the bow and the history of here are in this sarga , meeku opika unte, hindi or sanskrit vaste chadavandi anni. In this text rama is just told that because he broke the bow he will be able to marry Sita and messengers are sent to Dasharatha. https://www.valmiki.iitk.ac.in/sloka?field_kanda_tid=1&langu age=dv&field_sarga_value=66 In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day |
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Okahyderabadi:
Here you go: janaka tells vishwamitra, rama and lakshmana before they could see the bow about it's background that he would give sita in marrage if the bow is lifted and aligned. "यदि असà¥à¤¯ धनà¥à¤·à¥‹ रामः कà¥à¤°à¥à¤¯à¤¾à¤¤à¥ आरोपणमॠमà¥à¤¨à¥‡ | सà¥à¤¤à¤¾à¤®à¥ अयोनिजामॠसीतामॠददà¥à¤¯à¤¾à¤®à¥ दाशरथेः अहमॠ|| १-६६-२६ 26b, c yadi = if; asya dhanuSaH = that, of bow; raamaH = Rama; kuryaat aaropaNam = does [strings,] bowstring; mune = oh, sage; sutaam a yoni jaam siitaam = daughter, non-, uterine, birthed, Seetha; dadyaam = I offer; daasharatheH = to Dasharatha's [son]; aham = I will. "If Rama strings the bowstring of that bow, oh, sage, I will offer my daughter, whose birth is non-uterine, to Dasharatha's Rama..." [So said Janaka to Vishvamitra.] [1-66-26b, c]" కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
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Okahyderabadi:
Rama denying janaka's offer is not written on valmiki ramayana. The http://www.valmikiramayan.net has the balakanda. The dramatization you mentioned is not there. Yes, Vishwamitra did not tell rama that he's going to a swayamvaram. But the rule is already set by janaka as many kings already declared war against janaka asking sita. So the rule is rule whether you did it knowingly or unknowingly. కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
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Dts:If you notice here you did not contradict my statement. You just paraphrased what I said that girl has every right to reject a boy. No doubt sita can reject rama if she wants but she did not. On the other hand rama cannot reject sita after being the winner.
Brother - Vishwamitra takes Rama and Laskhmana to Mithila telling them we are going to see the shiva dhanassu and not to take part in swayamvaram. All the accounts of such things written in other texts is all their version of the events. After going there they find janaka asking if there is nobody who can lift the dhanassu. Vishwamitra tells Janaka that Raghu kulanvitulu Rama lakshmana are here and they would like to give a try. Vishwamitra asks Sri Rama to go and lift the bow. Rama after getting his blessings lifts the bow and tries to string it and breaks the bow in the process. He is approached by Janaka after the bow is broken telling him that since he has broken the bow he can marry Sita since that is the prize in this swayamvaram. Rama politely declines saying marriage is a father's responsibility and he can marry Sita only if his father agrees. There is no question of Sri Rama and Lakshmana even coming to the swayamvaram if they knew it was one without their father's permission. So only once Dasharatha agrees ( they actually arrive in Mithila and there is a discussion on the vamsham on both sides). Vashishta maharishi gives the entire vamsha vruksham of Dasharatha starting with Avyaktamaina prapancham nunchi brahma taruvata marichi, kashyapudu, suryudu, ikshvaku ila all the way to Ramaand so does Shatananda Maharishi on the side of Janaku gives the vamsha vruksham of Janaka starting with Nimi all the way to Janaka. Once they agree then the marriage happens. So there is no question of Rama not saying yes immediately and not having any choice. In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day |
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Okahyderabadi:yes brother doing good, work busy so not getting time to post but keep looking at the db sometimes. I did not know my posts are missed will try to participate in some interesting threads.
good to know brother!! DB threads are like box of chocolates you know, you pick that you like ani oka pedda manishi chepparu. i choose which threads i participate... some threads i don't even date to open just by title!! |
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Goonda:Namaste anna, bavundra? been long time you posted in DB..miss people like you!
yes brother doing good, work busy so not getting time to post but keep looking at the db sometimes. I did not know my posts are missed will try to participate in some interesting threads. In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day |
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Okahyderabadi:This is not true entirely, the swayamvaram may be declared by the parents but the children still have the choice of not picking anybody from the people who participated in the swayamvaram.
If you notice here you did not contradict my statement. You just paraphrased what I said that girl has every right to reject a boy. No doubt sita can reject rama if she wants but she did not. On the other hand rama cannot reject sita after being the winner.
Okahyderabadi:Again its somewhat misleading. The case of sita swayamvaram is very special because of of the nature in which sitamma came in to his care. Sitamma is ayonija and hence she cannot marry any ordinary mortal, she displayed her strength when she simply picked and put the shiva dhanassu aside during her childhood. Janaka decides then that any match for her has to be equal to her in all respects.
Correct - again you just elaborated the background to Janaka's decision the swayamvaram test. I didn't deny that.
Okahyderabadi:Rama and Valmiki being contemporaries is fine and correct. The story so happens that one day when Narada visits Valimiki maharshi, the maharshi asks him - is there any human in this world who is perfect and has all the 16 traits to make him perfect. Narada tells him about Sri Ramachandra. Aa taruvata valmiki goes to the river to bathe, akkada he sees a hunter shoot a bird which is mating and he utters few lines which turn out to be the first poem composed by a human :
Here also you just elaborated what I briefly said. కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
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Okahyderabadi:
Namaste anna, bavundra? been long time you posted in DB..miss people like you! |
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Cinejeevi:Next Valmiki himself was very well present in Aranyakanda and he welcomes the three of them.
not sure your source is correct brother , please share it. In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day |
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Dts:good thread after a long time. there is no need for father's approval in Hindu marriage system. that too once a girl chooses a man then he should not refuse her unless he is not eligible to marry due to masculine issues. In the case of ramayana, once sita offers varamala, rama is bound to marry her. the message sent to darasharatha was not to seek his permission but it was wedding invitation. this is as per balakanda.
This is not true entirely, the swayamvaram may be declared by the parents but the children still have the choice of not picking anybody from the people who participated in the swayamvaram.
Dts:See for swayamvaram girl's father can set the rules on behalf of the girl. that's what Janaka did; and rama is the winner. so it's between sita and rama. janaka is only a facilitator. for kshatriya's not participating in swayamvaram is an insult. in fact not being invited is also an insult; once invited and selected there is turning back. e.g, bheeshma got angry when king of kashi did not invite his step brother and thus attacks swayamvara.
Again its somewhat misleading. The case of sita swayamvaram is very special because of of the nature in which sitamma came in to his care. Sitamma is ayonija and hence she cannot marry any ordinary mortal, she displayed her strength when she simply picked and put the shiva dhanassu aside during her childhood. Janaka decides then that any match for her has to be equal to her in all respects.
Dts:ramayana was written by valmiki who is a contemporary to king rama; however the story has already happened by the time valmiki came to know about rama via narada and lord brahma. valmiki took 12 years to come up with the ramayana after envisioning the saga due to brahma's boon. mahabharatha was written by vyasa and he witnessed entire story.
Rama and Valmiki being contemporaries is fine and correct. The story so happens that one day when Narada visits Valimiki maharshi, the maharshi asks him - is there any human in this world who is perfect and has all the 16 traits to make him perfect. Narada tells him about Sri Ramachandra. Aa taruvata valmiki goes to the river to bathe, akkada he sees a hunter shoot a bird which is mating and he utters few lines which turn out to be the first poem composed by a human : maa nishhaada pratiSThaamtva | magamaH shaashvatiiH samaaH yat krauNcha mithunaat eka | mavadhiiH kaama mohitam\ Aa taruvata chaturmukha brahma visits valmiki and tells him it was his sankalpam that valimiki tell the story of rama in poetry and that is how he made valmiki utter those words. He then blesses him and says you will be able to see the entire ramayana as it happened and all events associated with rama's life you will be able to see and experience as the characters in them did. The epic will be immortal and whatever you write will be the truth.. So thats how we got the great Ramayanam.. In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day |
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Stellar:Ok fiction category annamata
How? I said both Rama and Valmiki are contemporaries. Valmiki came to know about Rama through Narada; and Lord Brahma ordered to write the kavyam also Brahma grants Valmiki a boon so he can envisage the story as it happened. Finally Valmiki teaches his kavyam to Lava-Kusha duo who recite this kavyam in front to Lord Rama not knowing that he is their father. So Lord Rama himself listened the kavyam and hence certified. So it's a certified biography. కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
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Vishvak:If not it will mean that Rama married without his fathers permission?
he went with Vishwamitra's advise... his guru. |
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whoever is saying rama's marriage was FIXED or Happened and dasasradha was "bound" to accept with no other choice is totally wrong. Next Valmiki himself was very well present in Aranyakanda and he welcomes the three of them. more to be continued on Mon uttamE kshana kOpasya madhyamE ghatikaa dwayam adhamE dahOraatram paapishTE maraNantakaha !!!
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ramayanam lo pidakala veta... |
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Ramayanam jarigindhi ante no comment..yugas years choosukunte not all realistic.. Bharatham matram jarigindhi .. super powers etc emo gaani .. |
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Dts: via narada and lord brahma
Ok fiction category annamata
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Diviseema: next in line ramanasarudu ni chesukunedha.
ramanasarudu evaru..are u talking about raman vuncle...or is it ravana.. tatha teesina..baapu teesina cinemaalu chusthe alaane brastu padataaru... raavana asalu swayamvaraaniki raaledu ani Valmiki ramayan cheptundi...rest manavalla athi anthe.. read our epics before having a opinion about them.. sagam mandi sadavaru.. mana cinemaalu chusi ade nijam anukuntaamu...lakshmana rekha concept ee ledu .."Suyodhan" antu tatha cinema chesthe voogutaamu ... yevadu raasaru..andaru sachchaka raasara..bathikunnapudu raasara lanti dakota questions.. anni sadivina gagu ji gurinchi nenu raayaledu.. comment chusthe alaa anipinchavachchu |
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Gandhiguevara:Ramayanam Bharatam...oka single person oka single sitting lo raasinavi kaavu....centuries paatu jarigina kasarathu
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Ramayanam Bharatam...oka single person oka single sitting lo raasinavi kaavu....centuries paatu jarigina kasarathu |
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:Naaku oka doubt ee ramayan, bharatam original ga rasinollu real ga live chusinolla? Ante same time frame lo vaallu kuda living?
ramayana was written by valmiki who is a contemporary to king rama; however the story has already happened by the time valmiki came to know about rama via narada and lord brahma. valmiki took 12 years to come up with the ramayana after envisioning the saga due to brahma's boon. mahabharatha was written by vyasa and he witnessed entire story. కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
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Diviseema:if RAMA took permission from dasaradha and 3 moms. what if they rejected. appudu sita ki anyayam chesinattu kadha. engagement ayipoyi. papam andharimundu garland esi. chesukokapothe . next in line ramanasarudu ni chesukunedha.
i guess you're trying to prove by contradiction; however the question a chosen price rejecting doesn't arise. secondly ravana was not present on the swayamvaram. if a proposal comes from girl's side then a man has no right to reject it. on the contrary girl has every right to reject any proposal from boy's side. this is sanatana dharma. sad to see that nowadays we are not following this. boys are rejecting girls unscrupulously. even on western countries boys take extra precaution to say no to a girl. see what happened to arjuna when he rejects the proposal from urvashi, he got the curse to become eunuch for a period of time. also in case of bheeshma he had to be killed by eunuch (rebirth of amba). కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
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Naaku oka doubt ee ramayan, bharatam original ga rasinollu real ga live chusinolla? Ante same time frame lo vaallu kuda living? |
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Diviseema:if RAMA took permission from dasaradha and 3 moms. what if they rejected.
Appudadhi Diviseema Ramayana ayyedhi.. Valmiki Ramayana kaadhu. |
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Diviseema:
we can include so many if's. one point of time kikeyi didn't agreed for rama's marriage.. rama ki unna confidence athanni ala munduki nadipinchindi seeta ki anyayam jarigindi kada last ki, vidhi raathani evaru thappinchaleru |
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Diviseema:
emiti meerena aa post type chesindhi |
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Nice:Valmiki Ramayanam normal day to day telugu lo unna books emanna unnaya. If yes please refer
word by word translation kosam aithe gorakhpur geetha press version best antaaru.... methavulaki venkayya jawaabu.... https://youtu.be/fUafzTD37sY
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Okahyderabadi: That is why valmiki ramayam no bhuto na bhavishyath..
Valmiki Ramayanam normal day to day telugu lo unna books emanna unnaya. If yes please refer Thanks in Advance |
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Diviseema:
you read once what you are typing.you have a sarcastic intension in your mind. btw Ravana could not move it an inch, forget about your question. if Ravana could have done that then he would be none other than Rama |
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Diviseema:engagement ayipoyi. papam andharimundu garland esi
annai.... Kinda link ichha chadavochugaaa methavulaki venkayya jawaabu.... https://youtu.be/fUafzTD37sY
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Thikka_sankara:whatever, it was between janaka, vishwamitra and dasaratha.... Neeepost lo Sita and rams decision abstruse paint chesaavu....
See for swayamvaram girl's father can set the rules on behalf of the girl. that's what Janaka did; and rama is the winner. so it's between sita and rama. janaka is only a facilitator. for kshatriya's not participating in swayamvaram is an insult. in fact not being invited is also an insult; once invited and selected there is turning back. e.g, bheeshma got angry when king of kashi did not invite his step brother and thus attacks swayamvara. కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
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if RAMA took permission from dasaradha and 3 moms. what if they rejected. appudu sita ki anyayam chesinattu kadha. engagement ayipoyi. papam andharimundu garland esi. chesukokapothe . next in line ramanasarudu ni chesukunedha. Desam Meesam Thippudam - Balayya |
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Dts:Sita is bounty of bravery - that's the predicament. In movies they show this as varamala.
whatever, it was between janaka, vishwamitra and dasaratha.... Neeepost lo Sita and rams decision abstruse paint chesaavu.... methavulaki venkayya jawaabu.... https://youtu.be/fUafzTD37sY
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Thikka_sankara:Akkadikedo Sita varamala vesesinattu....ramudu oppukunnattu???
Refer to this comment "Oh, Kaushika, my commitment that she is the bounty of bravery has also come true... and my daughter Seetha who is nurtured well than my own lives is a worthy bride for Rama... [1-67-23] Sita is bounty of bravery - that's the predicament. In movies they show this as varamala. కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
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Thikka_sankara:http://www.valmikiramayan.net/utf8/baala/sarga67/bala_67_fra me.htm
I read this chapter several times; here's the reference "Those ministers will also tell the king Dasharatha that both the Kakutstha-s, Rama and Lakshmana, are under the aegis of saint Vishvamitra, and thus gladdening that king they will expeditiously usher in king Dasharatha for marriage..." So said Janaka to Vishvamitra. [1-67-26] clearly Janaka was inviting Dhararatha for wedding not for permission to wed. కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
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Dts:varamala is just a dramatization; rama wins the rule of swayamvaram. as per Janaka whoever aligns the shiva dhanassu wins sita. hence he's the chosen.
daaniki kinda nuvvu post chesinadaniki relation undaa Mari??? Dts:there is no need for father's approval in Hindu marriage system. that too once a girl chooses a man then he should not refuse her unless he is not eligible to marry due to masculine issues. In the case of ramayana, once sita offers varamala, rama is bound to marry her. the message sent to darasharatha was not to seek his permission but it was wedding invitation. this is as per balakanda.
Akkadikedo Sita varamala vesesinattu....ramudu oppukunnattu??? methavulaki venkayya jawaabu.... https://youtu.be/fUafzTD37sY
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Vishvak:
uncle....confusion oddu.... If you have time, just read this link.... http://www.valmikiramayan.net/utf8/baala/sarga67/bala_67_fra me.htm methavulaki venkayya jawaabu.... https://youtu.be/fUafzTD37sY
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Thikka_sankara:uncle.... Sita vara maala vesinattu "balakaanda" link ivvu....
varamala is just a dramatization; rama wins the rule of swayamvaram. as per Janaka whoever aligns the shiva dhanassu wins sita. hence he's the chosen. కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
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Dts:
uncle.... Sita vara maala vesinattu "balakaanda" link ivvu.... methavulaki venkayya jawaabu.... https://youtu.be/fUafzTD37sY
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Vishvak:More confusion! Pitruvakya palakudu aina Ramudu marriage without his fathers knowledge na...
Pitruvakya palana means not denying what father has told. In this can dhasharatha has no clue on sita's swayamvaram. He did not say not to marry any girl without my permission. కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
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Dts:good thread after a long time. there is no need for father's approval in Hindu marriage system. that too once a girl chooses a man then he should not refuse her unless he is not eligible to marry due to masculine issues. In the case of ramayana, once sita offers varamala, rama is bound to marry her. the message sent to darasharatha was not to seek his permission but it was wedding invitation. this is as per balakanda.
More confusion! Pitruvakya palakudu aina Ramudu marriage without his fathers knowledge na... Vi veri universum vivus vici My Blog: The Power Of One |
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... on the contrary a girl (or her father in lieu of her) has right to reject a man's proposal. this is as per hindu dharma. e.g., Padmavathi's father Akasharaju rejects Lord Venkateswara's mother's proposal initially. Later agree on condition. కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
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good thread after a long time. there is no need for father's approval in Hindu marriage system. that too once a girl chooses a man then he should not refuse her unless he is not eligible to marry due to masculine issues. In the case of ramayana, once sita offers varamala, rama is bound to marry her. the message sent to darasharatha was not to seek his permission but it was wedding invitation. this is as per balakanda. కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
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Vishvak:
sita ki aa restrictions levu, plus she carries one ring and necklace i think |
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Thanks for the response bros... Another question: Sita drops her jewelry while Ravana abducting her, where did she got those jewelry? Vanavasaam lo they should be lead life like Rishi kada? Vi veri universum vivus vici My Blog: The Power Of One |
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Raman:swayamvaram ayyaka janaka intimation pamputadu kada 1st criteria swayamvaram second peddala angeekaram idi order
ramudu does not agree for the marriage unless dasharatha agrees In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day |
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Cinejeevi:The same is told by Sita to Anasuya at the end of aranyakanda not in Balakanda if you have read Ramayana. see u on Monday for further discuss on this ..
This is correct, When sitamma goes to visit Anasuya and she asks him everybody says swayamvaram taruvata mee pelli immediate ga jarigindanta kada please tell me the story ante she tells the story as above In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day |
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swayamvaram ayyaka janaka intimation pamputadu kada 1st criteria swayamvaram second peddala angeekaram idi order |
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emanna movie links dorukutayemo ani DB ki vaste ee thread dorikindi. if this is alive by Mon we can discuss more or bump it or open new one. If you read balakanda here is the sequence. after taTaki is dead, viswamitra asks rama, let us go to mithila as Janaka is doing some yagam. Once there, viswamitra says there is a dhanassu there and as kshatriya you should check it out. No mention of any swayamvaram etc., Because if viswamitra says so, then Rama as dharmatma will say, marriage is to be decided by my father and viswamitra's paruvu is gone. After siva dhanurbhangam, when Janaka says now it's time to get married, then Rama says that is to be decided by my dad not by myself. Per kshatriya dharma I tried the dhanassu. The same is told by Sita to Anasuya at the end of aranyakanda not in Balakanda if you have read Ramayana. see u on Monday for further discuss on this .. uttamE kshana kOpasya madhyamE ghatikaa dwayam adhamE dahOraatram paapishTE maraNantakaha !!!
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Okahyderabadi: Akkadiki vachina taruvata iddaru valla valla vamsha vrukhsham gurinchi matladukoni final ga marriage takes place
there is no vora kanta seetha vanka choosinade types scenes anywhere. BTW the reason I say valmiki ramayanam is authentic - valmiki ramayanam rayadniki he had a boon from brahma that when valimiki is writing the epic using the divyadhrishti he would be able to experience the same feelings that the person in the epic experienced when it happened. So hanumathudu samduram dati velutunna, lanka lo sitammani vetukutunnappudu kaligina experiences anni he will feel the emotion and write. That is why valmiki ramayam no bhuto na bhavishyath.. In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day |
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Vishvak:Did Dasaradha knew about Rama's participation in Sita swayamvaram? If not it will mean that Rama married without his fathers permission? Most of the versions I read says Dasaradha is happy after knowing Rama's success in the swayamvaram...
Contrary to what all the movies show and the serials show according to Valmiki Ramayam which is the only authentic version of the epic - the marriage did not happen immediately. Shiva dhanassu virichina taruvata Janaka tells Sri Rama since he has won the swayamvaram he has the right to marry Vaidehi. Sri Rama says children's marriage has to be approved by Father and he has to decide if this marriage can take place or not. The message is sent to Dasharadha who did no even know about the swayamvaram, vashishta tells him that Vishwamitra knows everything and if he took Rama to the swayamvaram it would be for a reason. So the Dasharadha along with the rest of the princes arrive in Mithila . Akkadiki vachina taruvata iddaru valla valla vamsha vrukhsham gurinchi matladukoni final ga marriage takes place In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day |
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Vishvak:Even then it means he went ahead without his fathers approval... Like loving a girl and then seeking parents approval for marriage
Abhysg: Yes..Ramudu sita love marriage...fathers kooda agreed later... They are very good...
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Last_avataar:Sita only garlands Varamala. it is not deemed as marriage. then Rama requests Janaka to send msg to Father and 3 moms and tell him clearly unless they accepts cannot marry.
Even then it means he went ahead without his fathers approval... Like loving a girl and then seeking parents approval for marriage Vi veri universum vivus vici My Blog: The Power Of One |
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Ringo_rangaswamy:Alludoo, yevvariki thattani ee question neeku yenduku vachindi? Ippudu?
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Vishvak:Did Dasaradha knew about Rama's participation in Sita swayamvaram? If not it will mean that Rama married without his fathers permission? Most of the versions I read says Dasaradha is happy after knowing Rama's success in the swayamvaram...
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Sita only garlands Varamala. it is not deemed as marriage. then Rama requests Janaka to send msg to Father and 3 moms and tell him clearly unless they accepts cannot marry. Dasarath gets surprised by the news but vashist says should keep faith on Vishwamitra. except kaika ever one agrees, sensing the delay Rama sends personal letter to Kaika. she is moved by the letter and agrees. she wants a rich kingdom princess for Rama not mithila , not so rich in her perspective |
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dasaratha know about his marriage, and winning of swayamvaram after swayamvaram he took permission and married, |
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Yes..Ramudu sita love marriage...fathers kooda agreed later... They are very good... |
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Vishvak:Most of the versions I read says Dasaradha is happy after knowing Rama's success in the swayamvaram...
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Did Dasaradha knew about Rama's participation in Sita swayamvaram? If not it will mean that Rama married without his fathers permission? Most of the versions I read says Dasaradha is happy after knowing Rama's success in the swayamvaram... Vi veri universum vivus vici My Blog: The Power Of One |