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Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2016 - 03:20 pm:       


Whyme:

Buddhism goppa, hinduism dibba antu India k elli Tirupathi lo gundu kotyinchukunevallaki kooda facility irukku




:D all rivers end up in the sea called Dharma.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2016 - 02:55 pm:       


Bushu:




x-Nity lo canonization beatification
Hinduism lo godification, baba-ization - you can find your comfort zone in Hinduism
Thappu ledu.. Evari facility vaaridi..

Buddhism goppa, hinduism dibba antu India k elli Tirupathi lo gundu kotyinchukunevallaki kooda facility irukku
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2016 - 02:42 pm:       


Whyme:


Beauty of hindu culture (not religion) is we make our own gods and all point to the one omniscient that we all agree upon..




 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2016 - 02:24 pm:       


Nisarga:

we need as many Gods as possible.




in "reality" there are. if you ask each one will have their own defintion of God, translating to as many Gods :D
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2016 - 01:53 pm:       


Netra:

chaganti gaari venkateswara vibhavam vinandi.. aayana inka clear gaa chebuthaadu from skaandham




Sure, will do. Thanks.
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Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2016 - 01:38 pm:       


Aha:

Ee point konchem detailed ga chepthaaraa? Venkanna meeda Naku chala nammakam.... So curious to know.




detailed ante naaku antha knowledge ledhu kaani.. kali baadhala ninchi manalni kaapdaneeki vachharu ani nammuthaamu andhuke aayanni venkateswarudu antaamu.. baadhalu teerche eeshwarudu ani.. ee roopam lo goppathanam endhi ante aayana chaala years nadichaadu and maatlaadadu janam tho..

chaganti gaari venkateswara vibhavam vinandi.. aayana inka clear gaa chebuthaadu from skaandham
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Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2016 - 01:31 pm:       


Mental_sachinodu:

answer is simple.. you will only the definition when you believe

if you are quechening, you already lost the answer.




mmmm... I think I got it :-)

but.. why kochen it when u already believe in it!!!

anyone and anything believed can be it/he/she.

i wud think.. we need as many Gods as possible.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2016 - 01:25 pm:       


Nisarga:

inthaki has any one defined what God is here!?




answer is simple.. you will only the definition when you believe :-)

if you are quechening, you already lost the answer.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2016 - 01:23 pm:       

inthaki has any one defined what God is here!?
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2016 - 12:51 pm:       


Netra:

venkanna is swetha varaha kalpaaniki adhipathi maathrame.. so andhuke aayana antha powerful god ayyadu..




Ee point konchem detailed ga chepthaaraa? Venkanna meeda Naku chala nammakam.... So curious to know.
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Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2016 - 12:31 pm:       


Whyme:

Tirupathi Venky not part of original avatharams.. after the fact added




venkanna never considered as avatharam.. avatharam concept is different.. Mahavishnu ki naalugu roopaalu.. snakarshana, pradhyumna and 2 more (correct gaa idea raavatledhu).. what we see if i am not wrong is prdhyumna roopam.. dhaanlo avathaaram ante dharma samsthaapana.. buddha was never an avathaaram.. that buddavatharam is different. venkanna is swetha varaha kalpaaniki adhipathi maathrame.. so andhuke aayana antha powerful god ayyadu..

vishnu avatharaalu gurinchi poorthigaa kaavali ante you need to read pothana bhagavatham
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Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2016 - 11:58 am:       


Tombrady:

did u read it vuncle? aa mayalu aa miracles nammatam ento adi 1900's lo

cults must be crazy




chadivenu kaani I cant connect to myself. Wife and inlaws are strong followers

maa intlo sinnaptnunchi alavaatu aindhi dont say negative
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Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2016 - 11:56 am:       


Anand_n:

the fear I read in Mandharam's posts is not that of blind trust, but giving a living human the power to manipulate that blind trust ...




hehe true to some extent but I can see in case of the blind trust on someone/something not alive, there will always be someone 'alive' who can make use of that blind trust. apart from becoming blackmoney hubs i wont see much harm. Personally i feel, even babas' castles becoming blackmoney hubs is fine compared to blackmoney leaving the country.

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Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2016 - 11:36 am:       


Whyme:

Buddha had temple/aramas/stupas across the country once like Shirdi Baba has now.. it is a anti-pattern..




Beauty of hindu culture (not religion) is we make our own gods and all point to the one omniscient that we all agree upon..
So Hindu religion (the one that gave us cassette platform) - if we don't want to conform to it - we can make our own god/guru - that is shirdi baba for you.. that is raghavendra for you.. that was Buddha for you..

in my feeling Buddha was Shirdi baba of his times who shook up the entire country.. origins are still the same
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2016 - 11:30 am:       


Dma:




Andhrawala:




Raghavendra Swamy is guru - not a god.. agreed..
so is Shirdi Saibaba
so is Buddha
Buddha had temple/aramas/stupas across the country once like Shirdi Baba has now.. it is a anti-pattern..
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2016 - 11:15 am:       


Tombrady:




maa intlo vuntaai aacharya bharadwaja gari books. maa parents baagane bhakthulu. oka point of time lo, everyday elle vallu gudi ki.

nenu passive nunchi, ee madhya baga taggipoyindi bhakti.
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Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2016 - 11:13 am:       


Andhrawala:

The holy book is called Guru chairthra and so on




did u read it vuncle? aa mayalu aa miracles nammatam ento adi 1900's lo

cults must be crazy
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2016 - 11:12 am:       


Chitti_babu:

Saibaba endhuku antha popular funny ga only telugu circles lone....Shirdi ki velthe complete ga Andhra dominated laa anipisthadhi....




mana vallaki kottadanam vundali, ivvala repu boston lo ne 4 temples ante imagine
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2016 - 11:12 am:       


Mandharam:

are they Godmen or Gods?




ShirdiSai ni Godman gaane treat chesthaaru.

They call him as Guru. The holy book is called Guru chairthra and so on

also he SHirdi Sai temples of DIwali, Dasara, Ugadi etc chesthaaru kaani regular Venky or Rama temples lo Guru pournami cheyaru
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Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2016 - 11:08 am:       

Saibaba endhuku antha popular funny ga only telugu circles lone....Shirdi ki velthe complete ga Andhra dominated laa anipisthadhi....


Same with less popular Meher Baba kadha......
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2016 - 11:07 am:       

sai cults cannot amma, sai franchises are hottest thing ivvala repu
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2016 - 11:06 am:       


Whyme:

raghavendra swamy




is a guru. not god
Jai Andhra!! Jai Jai Andhra!!!
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2016 - 11:05 am:       


Whyme:

Tirupathi Venky not part of original avatharams.. after the fact added.. buddhudini add chesinattugane add chesaru

similarly raghavendra swamy




raghavendra swamy is basically kula daivam of Madhvas in Karnataka

He is not a god. He is also Guru

Buddhudni konni sotlaa Dasava tharallo part gaa chebuthaaru.
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Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2016 - 10:59 am:       

Tirupathi Venky not part of original avatharams.. after the fact added.. buddhudini add chesinattugane add chesaru

similarly raghavendra swamy
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2016 - 10:36 am:       


Dma:


noticing this, so called Hindu pandits started projecting him as another incarnation of God to bring back Budhism under Hindu Umbrella.




idi enduko nammabuddi avvatledu.. budha ku hindu temples ekkada levu.. hindu pujarlu kooda leru..

matsya/koorma/vamana/parasurama temples kooda choodaledu..
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2016 - 10:29 am:       


Mandharam:

are they Godmen or Gods?




does not matter. what matters is the disciple's view. if you really need to find out why certain folks treat them as gods... you should only be talking to Hardcore bhakts :D
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2016 - 09:49 am:       


Dma:

In the changed scenario, to evade taxes, (sai temples not under endowment dept), people started this as a business to evade taxes.

With increased marketing and false propaganda, more and more cult fell for this trap.

again, noticing what is heppening, Hindu pandits started bringing him as another incarnation of god under hinduism.




Tax vundadhu kabatte Shirdi Saibaba famous ayyedu anatam thappu.

Kotha devudandi type lo okko devuduki okko season. alaa currently Shirdi Sai is having field day now.
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Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2016 - 07:36 am:       


Mario_puzo:


If their is any problem here, that problem roots from 'blind trust/worship', not 'whom they are blindly trusting'. No?





Good discussion...the fear I read in Mandharam's posts is not that of blind trust, but giving a living human the power to manipulate that blind trust ...

The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2016 - 04:39 am:       


Swayamkrushi:

May be both...




if you cover 'first', second is covered....no need to mention the second as it's the subset of first :D
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2016 - 04:36 am:       


Mario_puzo:

that problem roots from 'blind trust/worship', not 'whom they are blindly trusting'. No?




May be both...
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2016 - 04:32 am:       


Mandharam:

Don't you see any harm in this blind trust/worship?




If their is any problem here, that problem roots from 'blind trust/worship', not 'whom they are blindly trusting'. No?
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2016 - 04:18 am:       


Mandharam:


Shirdi sai followers always blame Satya Sai as donga baba
they keep comparing with others. that means the sense of belief is only opportunistic and not from the heart

If someone says "Buddha is not god and he is just a normal human". Buddha followers have no problem with such statements.

But with Shirdi baba followers it is not the case. Their BPs raise and bad-mouth the person in front of them




why are you getting a fresh puttaparti baba into discussion?

Buddha followers have no problem, agreed! will Tirupati venky's followers agree if someone says he is not god? Lingam concept gurinchi open ga matladataniki manollaki ucha,,,,,

Paata hinduism lo aite 'if it makes sense, let's accept him as saint and accept his philosophy as branch of hinduism' types lo undudochu (based on its vivid branches and tolerant philosophy)......ippudu manam kuda abrahamic influence lo unnam, modernisation played a key role in 'seperating religion from life style and culture'......so just like abrahaic ones, religion is but an ego booster today!

in my opinion there's no difference in someone praying to puttaparti or shirdi or srisailam.....indulo evarni 'veedu god kadu' ante society ela react avuddo nuvve uhinchuko.....

Budhists ikkada evadu ledu kabatti mooskunnaru.....Srilanka lanti chotla valla aagadaalu ala ila undav......end of the day, babu matallo its 'fawar' ante!
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2016 - 03:07 am:       


Jatayu:

it's our undeterred belief which makes us feel God in anything/anyone.




Isn't this a dangerous phenomenon?
What if we blindly trust babas like Nithyananda?

Don't you see any harm in this blind trust/worship?

I don't see any problem in blindly worshipping ancients characters like rama,krishna etc or even shirdi,satya sais

but the problem with Satya,Shirdi Sai is : they give chance for any ordinary man to project himself as god/godman and it is not good for the society. This is not about religion.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2016 - 03:02 am:       


Mario_puzo:

matam antene nammakam kada, andulo false propaganda honest publicity ani emundi?




Shirdi sai followers always blame Satya Sai as donga baba
they keep comparing with others. that means the sense of belief is only opportunistic and not from the heart

If someone says "Buddha is not god and he is just a normal human". Buddha followers have no problem with such statements.

But with Shirdi baba followers it is not the case. Their BPs raise and bad-mouth the person in front of them
 

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Posted on Monday, July 04, 2016 - 05:36 pm:       


Aggipidugu116:

Drumpf gaani kooturu , converted after marrying to a jew




ladies ki emaina easy emo comparatively. circumcision mandatory anta :D

http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/3002/jewish/Wh y-Is-Conversion-to-Judaism-So-Hard.htm
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Posted on Monday, July 04, 2016 - 05:30 pm:       


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Drumpf gaani kooturu , converted after marrying to a jew
 

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Posted on Monday, July 04, 2016 - 05:25 pm:       


Aggipidugu116:

Did any one try to convert to judaism? Procedures emiti ?




you cannot. you have to have jooish blood to be accepted, afaik.

if you can prove , you will be paid for a move to ijraayel.
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Posted on Monday, July 04, 2016 - 05:20 pm:       

Did any one try to convert to judaism? Procedures emiti ? Is it good? Does it help in our career growth? Just like our hinduism , that is also old ..these budhism saism christism muhmdism all created by babas and outofbox thinkers who have more lesiure time ..and sucessded..
 

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Posted on Monday, July 04, 2016 - 05:13 pm:       

They are neither god nor god-men.
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Posted on Monday, July 04, 2016 - 04:51 pm:       


Aggipidugu116:

Hindusim give nice casette platform..





Jai Andhra!! Jai Jai Andhra!!!
 

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Posted on Monday, July 04, 2016 - 04:38 pm:       


Whyme:

Why are we not going back to Buddhism




Who is budha? Why change to that? Hindusim give nice casette platform.. Budhism
Gives dog meat festival..

Afvabtages disadvantages pettandi..
 

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Posted on Sunday, July 03, 2016 - 10:32 pm:       


Jatayu:

it's not that Sai is God or Buddha is God .. it's our undeterred belief which makes us feel God in anything/anyone..




true.

watch from 31 minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBWpx5OQMa4
Jai Andhra!! Jai Jai Andhra!!!
 

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Posted on Sunday, July 03, 2016 - 09:53 pm:       

Buddha or Sai devuda kada ani discuss chestunnaru ante I feel no one has truly understood.. it's not that Sai is God or Buddha is God .. it's our undeterred belief which makes us feel God in anything/anyone..
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Posted on Sunday, July 03, 2016 - 05:22 pm:       


Mario_puzo:


perfectly makesense
 

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Posted on Sunday, July 03, 2016 - 05:20 pm:       


Dma:

In the changed scenario, to evade taxes, (sai temples not under endowment dept), people started this as a business to evade taxes.

With increased marketing and false propaganda, more and more cult fell for this trap.




no endowments kabatti sai pedda god ayyadu 100% agreed.

kaani, what exactly is the difference between someone believing in tirumala god per say and someone else believing shirdi god? matam antene nammakam kada, andulo false propaganda honest publicity ani emundi? ayyappa maala ki publicity avva leda? ganesh navaratri sudden ga popular avvaleda? alage, evadi agenda kosam vallu
 

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Posted on Sunday, July 03, 2016 - 05:15 pm:       


Dma:

When Hinduism was rotten with castism (relative to the times) and civil unrest increased in lower class people, buddha ideology attracted those who were affected and became a cult. That resulted in diminishing popularity for Hinduism.




rotten gitten jaanta nai....it was always about power, Budha got support from 'merchant caste' (ee roju vysyulu ani guaranty ledu). 'Phanas' ane varu. it was properly marketed by them.

who will fund the infra, budhist cultural centres prati oorlonu construction ayyayi. idanta way before budha became really big ( his philosophy reached to places he never would've dream of - almost a continent but much later) and kings/kingdoms endorsed him/his philosophy.

the guys who has money funded for a different philosophy whose acceptance across kingdom will yield them power. fawar falitriks.
 

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Posted on Sunday, July 03, 2016 - 05:11 pm:       

Ymiya

It's the places where lord Venky walked and become statue

So that place become divine.

And God exists across universe
Not just in tiruparhi
Driving is my PASSION.
Ball or Bimmer does not matter.
 

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Posted on Sunday, July 03, 2016 - 05:09 pm:       

Good and evil
+ve and -ve forces are there everywhere and in everything

+ve ness called God
-ve ness called evil
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Posted on Sunday, July 03, 2016 - 04:48 pm:       

Why are people still visiting Tirupathi etc..
Why are we not going back to Buddhism
 

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Posted on Sunday, July 03, 2016 - 03:03 pm:       

Why sai temples are not under endowements? Vigrha aradhana chesevanni should be under govt..
 

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Posted on Sunday, July 03, 2016 - 02:35 pm:       

khaleja lo mahesh babu kuda devude, prajala ni rakshinchevadu and enlighten chesevadu evadina devude
 

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Posted on Sunday, July 03, 2016 - 02:24 pm:       

Saints, God men, enlightened being men
 

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Posted on Sunday, July 03, 2016 - 12:25 pm:       

Law of conservation of God - "God can neither be created, nor destroyed."
TMTM - Thittaalannaa Meme, Thittinchukovaalannaa Meme
 

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Posted on Sunday, July 03, 2016 - 12:24 pm:       


Platypus:

Alaa argue chesthe Jesus Christ, Ramudu, Mohammed - veellevvaru God kaadu.



Mankind cannot answer whether God created the Known and Unknown Universe, and the immense amount of knowledge surrounding us, but Mankind certainly Created God.
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I told you to let it go!!"
- The Budhha.
 

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Posted on Sunday, July 03, 2016 - 12:18 pm:       

My view: The concept of God is a psychological tool to deal with the uncontrollable aspects of life. It helps those who believe in the idea. Buddha, sai, etc are all popular counselors for their times. Just like present day babas. Some are really wise, some pretend to be wise, some are just out there for material benefits.
The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us.- Paul Valery
 

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Posted on Sunday, July 03, 2016 - 11:58 am:       

Raman ji
Db lo na post meeru teesukunara, :-)
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Posted on Sunday, July 03, 2016 - 11:54 am:       


Raman:

budhuni mundu cams leru budhuni taravathe vacharu anduke kada hinduism before budha was rotten with castism antunnavu




one more time everything boils down to caste.


The Only Thing We Have to Fear Is Fear Itself - FDR
 

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Posted on Sunday, July 03, 2016 - 11:52 am:       


Dma:


budhuni mundu cams leru budhuni taravathe vacharu anduke kada hinduism before budha was rotten with castism antunnavu
 

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Posted on Sunday, July 03, 2016 - 11:51 am:       

Alaa argue chesthe Jesus Christ, Ramudu, Mohammed - veellevvaru God kaadu.
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Posted on Sunday, July 03, 2016 - 11:18 am:       

Jesus kuda same bapathu
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Posted on Sunday, July 03, 2016 - 11:13 am:       

Buddha -

When Hinduism was rotten with castism (relative to the times) and civil unrest increased in lower class people, buddha ideology attracted those who were affected and became a cult. That resulted in diminishing popularity for Hinduism.

noticing this, so called Hindu pandits started projecting him as another incarnation of God to bring back Budhism under Hindu Umbrella.


Sai ism:

In the changed scenario, to evade taxes, (sai temples not under endowment dept), people started this as a business to evade taxes.

With increased marketing and false propaganda, more and more cult fell for this trap.

again, noticing what is heppening, Hindu pandits started bringing him as another incarnation of god under hinduism.


Neither of them are god.
Jai Andhra!! Jai Jai Andhra!!!
 

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Posted on Sunday, July 03, 2016 - 10:44 am:       

first define what is god

they are gods for devotees and believers, they are Godmen for non belivers
 

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Posted on Sunday, July 03, 2016 - 10:43 am:       


Aquarian:




all neutral people please post your frank opinions (with explanation if possible)
I will come later and read your views
 

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Posted on Sunday, July 03, 2016 - 10:28 am:       

They are us...#manavalle
 

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Posted on Sunday, July 03, 2016 - 10:14 am:       

are they Godmen or Gods?

Hardcore bhakts and haters, please stay away.
I want answers from Mango people

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