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Kamal:

Vyasa/Valmiki were not discriminated ani proof undi ..


adhe ippudu burning problem. caste based discrimination in India and especially rural India is a social evil which has roots in Hindu books and varna system annadhi naa claim. you cant argue showing random exceptions in mythology. rule ento cheppu exceptions iche mundu
"Paricharyatmakam karmam shudarasyapi swabhavajam" in Gita chapter 18(44)
Meaning: "The four castes are created by me and the duty of the shudra is to serve the other three castes"

Aadi Sankara said: "Shudradhi sparsane snanam Karyam shudheem abheepsidha"
Meaning: "Take a bath if seeing a shudra. Take a bath if the low caste approaches nearby".
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evariki teliyani mythological period lo ekkada mention cheyani universal brotherhood meeru matlaadutunnaaru



hahaha .. when u believe itihaasas are mythical .. you have no right to bring ekalavya episode .. interpret it in your own way .. and then score a brownie point ! you cannot bake the cake and eat it ..
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Sanman:

what kamal is trying to do is rewrite history with his idealistic view of hinduism. you cannot change the past. you can only learn from it



LOL .. yeah .. history is what Brits, Oxford, Cambridge and fellow marxists writes about India ..

simple logic gurtu pettuko .. if there is a need for me to "rewrite" history .. I will not believe in Hinduism at all .. nee lage nenu kuda ali icons vesukuntu post chese vaadini ..

btw yes .. I do certainly believe .. you cannot change the past .. good luck !
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endi agra ani keay word kanapadite ee icon ettala?
odekka endivayya LWA nuvvu kooda ilaga chus ..
mana friendship paruvu teestunnavu
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Ishan:

ayina asalu topic endi disco endi? prathi thread lo hindutva gola endi sillygaa? kamal baaga seppaana?



nee style lo super ga cheppavu annai .. denemma .. evadi beliefs ni aadu post chesukunte kuda .. aadu frabricate chesi abaddam aadutunnadu .. nenu satya harischandrudi bammardi family .. so believe what i say .. ani posts esthe ilage edustayi theds ..
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Maverick:

oppression started later, not from the beginning.


beginning ante neonderthals daaka podhaaama. known history, mana practices ki direction istunna books, veeti aadhaaram gaa maatlaadutunna. evariki teliyani mythological period lo ekkada mention cheyani universal brotherhood meeru matlaadutunnaaru

Maverick:

so its more economic driven.


sure. deprive economic opportunities to someone based on their birth. then say that it is economic driven. i mean how many shoes does a cobbler have to make to become a kshatriya or a vaisya



Indiarocks:

Annamayya adi padina kooda ippatiki aayanni marchipoledu, inka aa paata padukuntunnamu.


i don't think he is famous for that song. it is just one of his literary works the most renowned are spiritual, not social.

Indiarocks:

Kamal perfect examples ni teesukuni stereotype cheste, you are doing the opposite, negative ni teesukuni stereotyping.


what kamal is trying to do is rewrite history with his idealistic view of hinduism. you cannot change the past. you can only learn from it
"Paricharyatmakam karmam shudarasyapi swabhavajam" in Gita chapter 18(44)
Meaning: "The four castes are created by me and the duty of the shudra is to serve the other three castes"

Aadi Sankara said: "Shudradhi sparsane snanam Karyam shudheem abheepsidha"
Meaning: "Take a bath if seeing a shudra. Take a bath if the low caste approaches nearby".
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Sanman:

agrahaaraallo upanayananiki mundu knowledge test chesi chestaranta




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Sanman:


Bc 4th centry ninchi AD 9th century varaku buddism at peaks in india
2000 years lo oka 1300 years tooch
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Raman:

nammite argue cheyyavu nammakapote argue cheyyakudadu ..



When your enemy calls you 'Shershah', you are none other than Param Veer Chakra Capt. Vikram Batra. For him, the Tiranga was more than a piece of cloth! Jai Hind!
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IR kurrod kamal ki support ga oka post veyyadam first time choosthunna...naa DB jeevthinaaniki idi chaalu anukuntaa....bemmi crying icon..

ayina asalu topic endi disco endi? prathi thread lo hindutva gola endi sillygaa? kamal baaga seppaana?
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Vyasa/Valmiki were not discriminated ani proof undi .. valla counterparts ni discriminate chesarani proof ekkada undi? malli memu abaddalu cheppukovali ..
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Sanman:

mana bad luck enti ante escapist arguements


first of all bharatam is fiction ani nammutaavu inga daani meeda escapist argument endi naa bonda
do you belive in bharatam ramayana etc ..yes or no?
if you dont belive dont make these arguments period
if you believe then dont ever say that these are escapist..
neeku karnudi story teleedu karnudu brhmin ani cheppi vidya nerchukunnadu parasuramudu dead against kshtriyas daani backdrop sana undi ..
mallee daniki shudra color inkoti ichavu kiki kaneeyyi
nammite argue cheyyavu nammakapote argue cheyyakudadu ..
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Kamal:

aapehe .. endi nuvvu post chesina rules???


endhi frustration peaks loki veltundhaa. abaddanni defend chese vaallaki alaage untadhi. pepanchakam mottam telisina nijanni proofs adagatam lo ne kanapadtundhi mana agenda
"Paricharyatmakam karmam shudarasyapi swabhavajam" in Gita chapter 18(44)
Meaning: "The four castes are created by me and the duty of the shudra is to serve the other three castes"

Aadi Sankara said: "Shudradhi sparsane snanam Karyam shudheem abheepsidha"
Meaning: "Take a bath if seeing a shudra. Take a bath if the low caste approaches nearby".
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Sanman:

thank you. please tell that to kamal who is arguing that caste system is a recent phenomenon. if 500 years ago annamayya had to sing that song it means it was already widely prevalent by then




Again listening to what you want. Annamayya adi padadu kabatti caste system undi ani anukovadam okati. Annamayya adi padina kooda ippatiki aayanni marchipoledu, inka aa paata padukuntunnamu. So our society was not total black or white like you, or Kamal are painting resply.


Sanman:

aa chaala saarlu vinna agrahaaraallo upanayananiki mundu knowledge test chesi chestaranta




Kamal perfect examples ni teesukuni stereotype cheste, you are doing the opposite, negative ni teesukuni stereotyping.

Vishnu Sahasranamam meeda nenu authority kaadu kaani reportedly the commentary written by Adi Shankara says that anybody who recites the namam for materialistic pleasures, but not Gnana, is a Shudra, irrespective of his birth.

One of two lines pattukuni judge chesesthe elaga.
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Sanman:

nenu fost chesindi 2000 years nundi follow aina rules. nuvvu fost chesindi exceptions.



aapehe .. endi nuvvu post chesina rules??? evadu follow ayyadu? oka peru/ooru unda avi follow ayyaru ani? nenu kanisam oka handful of examples icha .. that there are practices exactly opposite in nature .. avi matram exceptions ani kottipaaresi .. agenda fulfill chesukuntunnav? asalu Valmiki/Vyasa zamana nunchi Vivekananda varaku .. and latest ga Gandhi nunchi ee roju Ramdev, Sri Sri Ravishankar ki ichina social status ee proofs nee argument ki against gaa .. malli avi exceptions ani daakkuntaav nee agenda venakala? ee matram daniki discussion colors denikayya .. just say .. i will stick to my agenda .. and end the crap
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Sanman:

what has that got anything to do with how a section of indian population were suppressed for thousands of years




You are mistaken, oppression started later, not from the beginning. and reasons are same as what our politicians are doing now. naaku okati ardham kaadu aa rojullo temple loki ranivvakapote, why cant they build their own temple? matti tho bommalu chesedi valle kada, oka devudi bomma chesukoni poojiste tappu annara? past or current, separating people is more to do with their economic status, than social status. in the past, economic status and social status are linked because of the profeessions and what they earn. its like places outside the city are cheaper to live than in the heart of city..so its more economic driven. ippati politicians ki appati rulers ki teda ledu..ippudu reservation icchi brand chesaru..appudu ivvakunda chesaru..anthe
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Ideal_brain:

That is the reason Drona asked for the Thumb finger


mana bad luck enti ante escapist arguements kuda full of loop holes. ollantha balupu unna duryodhanudu matram guruvu gaari training ki arhudu. nimna jaathi lo putti kevalam vidhya midha aapeksha tho guruvu chee kottinaa sontham gaa nerchukunna ekalavyudu matram ahamkaari. poni temperment baledhu cheppanu annadu ok. mari thumb enduku teesukunnaadu 20 years tarvaatha
chee kottina guruvu malli kutantram tho botana velu adigithe kshanam aalochinchakunda ichesina ekalavyudi temperment matram bad. super. frame kattinchukovali ivvi.
"Paricharyatmakam karmam shudarasyapi swabhavajam" in Gita chapter 18(44)
Meaning: "The four castes are created by me and the duty of the shudra is to serve the other three castes"

Aadi Sankara said: "Shudradhi sparsane snanam Karyam shudheem abheepsidha"
Meaning: "Take a bath if seeing a shudra. Take a bath if the low caste approaches nearby".
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Kamal:


nenu fost chesindi 2000 years nundi follow aina rules. nuvvu fost chesindi exceptions. ante aa brahmin/kshatriya status ki elevate kaakunda by birth sudras aina migilina vaallu anthaa anagatokka badda vaallu ane kadha. poni nee fabricated for modern convenience theory prakaaram knowledge unna vaade dvijudu anna daaniki realistic gaaa practice emanna undhaa ante adhi ledhu. entrance test emanna pedtunnaara brahmin status ki
"Paricharyatmakam karmam shudarasyapi swabhavajam" in Gita chapter 18(44)
Meaning: "The four castes are created by me and the duty of the shudra is to serve the other three castes"

Aadi Sankara said: "Shudradhi sparsane snanam Karyam shudheem abheepsidha"
Meaning: "Take a bath if seeing a shudra. Take a bath if the low caste approaches nearby".
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Ideal_brain:

You need to understand things before making an expert commentary..



* understand things not from a romilla thapar's or marxists perspective * ani add cheyyi annai ..
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Sanman:

pittani chupettu ante chupetta. kaadhu rama chilaka kavale annavu. chupetta. kaadhu tellaga undale annavu. chupetta. kaadhu g erraga undale antunnavu ippudu. 3500 years tarvaatha aithe oppukova. appudu jarigina vaati proofs nee daggara unnaya



LOL .. endi nuvvu choopettina pitta??? Romilla Thapar raasinada??? pitta kadhalu aapu .. Bhagavat Gita, Ramayana, Mahabharata anni chotla clear ga unna varna vyavasta ni .. exceptions ani kotti paarestivi .. ippudemo .. anni ippi chooinchinaa antunnav .. iga saale le neetho ..
When your enemy calls you 'Shershah', you are none other than Param Veer Chakra Capt. Vikram Batra. For him, the Tiranga was more than a piece of cloth! Jai Hind!
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As i said earlier Ekalavya put a flurry of arrows into the mouth of the Dog just for Barking. That is the reason Drona asked for the Thumb finger and people with half knowledge can argue about it. Even Lord shiva tests arjuna to see if he has the temparament to handle pashupata astra. You need to understand things before making an expert commentary..
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Kamal:

LOL .. eenati agraharam practice teesukochi .. 3500 years back .. or anthaku mundu kuda ilage undi ani decide chesava?


pittani chupettu ante chupetta. kaadhu rama chilaka kavale annavu. chupetta. kaadhu tellaga undale annavu. chupetta. kaadhu g erraga undale antunnavu ippudu. 3500 years tarvaatha aithe oppukova. appudu jarigina vaati proofs nee daggara unnaya
"Paricharyatmakam karmam shudarasyapi swabhavajam" in Gita chapter 18(44)
Meaning: "The four castes are created by me and the duty of the shudra is to serve the other three castes"

Aadi Sankara said: "Shudradhi sparsane snanam Karyam shudheem abheepsidha"
Meaning: "Take a bath if seeing a shudra. Take a bath if the low caste approaches nearby".
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Sanman:

aa rojullo kujli aa range lo undedhi annamaata. chaavanaina chastanu kani dalit ki chaduvu cheppanu ane range.
drone antha correct gaa character assess chese vade aithe malli botana velu enduko. ettaaagoo onelove temperment ki arjun ni beat ceyaledu kadha.
post facto fabrications tagginchandi pantullu



tamud .. ninnati varaku kuda nuvvu ee type kaadu anukunti .. maaf jeyyi! kanlu teripinshinav ..
When your enemy calls you 'Shershah', you are none other than Param Veer Chakra Capt. Vikram Batra. For him, the Tiranga was more than a piece of cloth! Jai Hind!
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Sanman:

yaa chaala saarlu vinna agrahaaraallo upanayananiki mundu knowledge test chesi chestaranta



LOL .. eenati agraharam practice teesukochi .. 3500 years back .. or anthaku mundu kuda ilage undi ani decide chesava?

Sanman:

aunavunu texts raasina vaallu anduke sudrudu kanapadithe snaanam cheyamannaaru. ante knowledge leni vadu kanapadithe snaanam cheyali ani kavi bhaavam kaavochu



absolutely .. knowledge, humility leni evvadu brahmin kaadu .. period !
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Indiarocks:

Meaning cheppakkarledu anukunta. Kaani idi cheppindi kooda oka Hindu ne, more than 500yrs ago. And he is not ostracized but is still remembered and revered as a saint. It all depends on what you want to listen anukuntunna.


thank you. please tell that to kamal who is arguing that caste system is a recent phenomenon. if 500 years ago annamayya had to sing that song it means it was already widely prevalent by then
"Paricharyatmakam karmam shudarasyapi swabhavajam" in Gita chapter 18(44)
Meaning: "The four castes are created by me and the duty of the shudra is to serve the other three castes"

Aadi Sankara said: "Shudradhi sparsane snanam Karyam shudheem abheepsidha"
Meaning: "Take a bath if seeing a shudra. Take a bath if the low caste approaches nearby".
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Ideal_brain:

Drona taught Dhanur Vidya even to Drustanjaya(Son of Drupada) even after knowing that he was born just to kill him.


aa rojullo kujli aa range lo undedhi annamaata. chaavanaina chastanu kani dalit ki chaduvu cheppanu ane range.
drone antha correct gaa character assess chese vade aithe malli botana velu enduko. ettaaagoo onelove temperment ki arjun ni beat ceyaledu kadha.
post facto fabrications tagginchandi pantullu
"Paricharyatmakam karmam shudarasyapi swabhavajam" in Gita chapter 18(44)
Meaning: "The four castes are created by me and the duty of the shudra is to serve the other three castes"

Aadi Sankara said: "Shudradhi sparsane snanam Karyam shudheem abheepsidha"
Meaning: "Take a bath if seeing a shudra. Take a bath if the low caste approaches nearby".
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Kamal:

LOL .. 'everybody' is born 'Shudra' ani chepthe ardam kaada?


yaa chaala saarlu vinna agrahaaraallo upanayananiki mundu knowledge test chesi chestaranta


Kamal:

btw .. shudra ante inferior anna bhavam neeku undi kaani .. aa texts rasina vallaki ledu anukunta .. anduke .. demoted ani interpret chesukuntunnav .. kiki


aunavunu texts raasina vaallu anduke sudrudu kanapadithe snaanam cheyamannaaru. ante knowledge leni vadu kanapadithe snaanam cheyali ani kavi bhaavam kaavochu
"Paricharyatmakam karmam shudarasyapi swabhavajam" in Gita chapter 18(44)
Meaning: "The four castes are created by me and the duty of the shudra is to serve the other three castes"

Aadi Sankara said: "Shudradhi sparsane snanam Karyam shudheem abheepsidha"
Meaning: "Take a bath if seeing a shudra. Take a bath if the low caste approaches nearby".
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"Paricharyatmakam karmam shudarasyapi swabhavajam" in Gita chapter 18(44)
Meaning: "The four castes are created by me and the duty of the shudra is to serve the other three castes"

Aadi Sankara said: "Shudradhi sparsane snanam Karyam shudheem abheepsidha"
Meaning: "Take a bath if seeing a shudra. Take a bath if the low caste approaches nearby".





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tandanAna ahi tandanAna pure
tandana bhaLa tandanAna

brahma mokkaTE para brahma mokka tE para
brahma mokaTE para brahma mokatE

kanduvagu heenA dhikamu lindu lEvu
andariki Sree harE antarAtma
indu lO jantukula mantA nokaTE
andariki Sree harE antarAtma

ninDAra rAju nidrinchu nidrayu nokaTE
anDanE banTu nidra adiyu nokaTE
menDaina brahmANuDu meTTu bhoomi yokaTe
ChanDaLu DunDETi sari bhoomi yokaTE

anugu dEvatalakunu ala kAma Sukha mokaTE
ghana keeTa paSuvulaku kAma sukha mokaTE
dinamahOrAtramulu tegi dhanaDyuna kokaTE
vonara niru pEdakunu vokkaTE aviyu

korali SishTAnnamulu gonu nAkalokaTE
tirugu dushTAnnamulu tinu nAkalokaTE
paraga dugandhamula pai vayu vokaTE
varasa parimaLamupai vAyuvokaTE

kaDagi Enugu meeda gAyu enDokaTE
puDami Sunakamu meeda bolayu nenDokaTE
kaDu puNyulanu pApa karmulanu sari gAva
jaDiyu Sri vEnkatESwaru nAmamokaTE




Meaning cheppakkarledu anukunta. Kaani idi cheppindi kooda oka Hindu ne, more than 500yrs ago. And he is not ostracized but is still remembered and revered as a saint. It all depends on what you want to listen anukuntunna.

Having said that, every religion is bound to have flaws, why coz, religion is what humans follow, and there is not a single human without a flaw.
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So ambedkar followed the same religious boOks and continued the classification?


most of the principles adapted after independence were knee jerk reactions to existing problems. during that time if you walked into a village and made a statement saying "all dalits in this village are dirt poor and all fcs are rich" it would be accurate 99% of the time.
if our politicians were sincere, they would have changed it to economic reservations later.
what has that got anything to do with how a section of indian population were suppressed for thousands of years
"Paricharyatmakam karmam shudarasyapi swabhavajam" in Gita chapter 18(44)
Meaning: "The four castes are created by me and the duty of the shudra is to serve the other three castes"

Aadi Sankara said: "Shudradhi sparsane snanam Karyam shudheem abheepsidha"
Meaning: "Take a bath if seeing a shudra. Take a bath if the low caste approaches nearby".
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2.Ekalavya did not possess the temparament to be taught the Dhanur vidya. Drona was one of the greatest teachers of Dhanur vidya during that time and he has intentionally asked the Thumb of Ekalavya because Ekalavya put a flurry of arrows into the mouth of a dog just because it was shouting. Drona taught Dhanur Vidya even to Drustanjaya(Son of Drupada) even after knowing that he was born just to kill him.



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Sanman:

any brahmins that are demoted to sudra or sandala status because of their lack of knowledge or due to their actions ?



LOL .. 'everybody' is born 'Shudra' ani chepthe ardam kaada? how can anyone born shudra be "demoted" to shudra???

btw .. shudra ante inferior anna bhavam neeku undi kaani .. aa texts rasina vallaki ledu anukunta .. anduke .. demoted ani interpret chesukuntunnav .. kiki
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Duvva_abbulu:

sankar gadiki muppai ellake papam pandi poyadu anta gaaa....dalit abuse, sudra abuse, parakai lanti chetha pooo panul inkaa enni sesado


i think very little is known about him to hate him so vehemently. there are a lot more people who deserve your hatred than him. for example focus your attention on what aurangazeb did
"Paricharyatmakam karmam shudarasyapi swabhavajam" in Gita chapter 18(44)
Meaning: "The four castes are created by me and the duty of the shudra is to serve the other three castes"

Aadi Sankara said: "Shudradhi sparsane snanam Karyam shudheem abheepsidha"
Meaning: "Take a bath if seeing a shudra. Take a bath if the low caste approaches nearby".
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Sanman:


neekunnna jabbento telsa appatlo dalits ippatlo dalits kakapovachu
appatlo kshtriyas ippatlo shudras kavachu ani emaina oppukuntavu but apptlo brahmins ippudu kooda valle ela avutaru?
ee lekkana samskrutam mathrame mattadutu gadipevaaru kada? enduku anni bhashallonu anni caste lu vachayi?
idanta evaro plan sesaru antava as usual ..kaneeyyi ..
pakkanodi meeda blame seyyadam eppudaite nersukuntavo , ala cheyyadanni samardinchagalugutavo appude oppukuntunna ee telivike cheptunna nest 2000 years meeve
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So ambedkar followed the same religious boOks and continued the classification?
Tamandam
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Sanman:

it is sad to see that they are still in denial about the historical abuse and the roots of that abuse



denemma dush-propaganda ..

alfred nobel kurrod dynamite kanipetti .. lakhs of people chaavu ki kaaranam ayyadu .. daanni later misuse chesinandu valla ani nobel gadi invention tappu antama? idem rationalism ra babu ! kiki
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Sanman:



1.Parasurama was on a mission to kill kshatriyas and karna tells him that he is not a kshatriya. Parasurama later realises that karna is a kshatriya based on tolerance to pain and he curses him that all the knowledge he gained would be not useful when he would need the most.

2.Ekalavya did not possess the temparament to be taught the Dhanur vidya. Drona was one of the greatest teachers of Dhanur vidya during that time and he has intentionally asked the Thumb of Ekalavya because Ekalavya put a flurry of arrows into the mouth of a dog just because it was shouting. Drona taught Dhanur Vidya even to Drustanjaya(Son of Drupada) even after knowing that he was born just to kill him.

3.I do not know about this but the classification of the caste is based o the Karma not by birth. There are many people born in the lower castes by birth and have gone to be the most respected people of the times.

4.Adishankara realized the actual meaning of brahma tatva when he encountered a shudra. Shankaracharya asks the shudra to move aside and the shudra replies him if shankaracharya want the brahman or him to move..
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Kamal:


so that article lists all the exceptions and how non brahmins "attained" higher social status because of their hard work and personal virtues. so the moral of story is either be born in a brahmin family or work really hard to attain that status.
also did that post enlightenment pandit agenda pamphlet identify any brahmins that are demoted to sudra or sandala status because of their lack of knowledge or due to their actions ?
"Paricharyatmakam karmam shudarasyapi swabhavajam" in Gita chapter 18(44)
Meaning: "The four castes are created by me and the duty of the shudra is to serve the other three castes"

Aadi Sankara said: "Shudradhi sparsane snanam Karyam shudheem abheepsidha"
Meaning: "Take a bath if seeing a shudra. Take a bath if the low caste approaches nearby".
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atanu chesindi tappu ani shankarudu chandaludi roopamlo vachi vivarinchadu ani inko story undi .. appudu ayana rasindi mana yellokallaku kanapadadu lol
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ayina ee fost ki reply ethakanu endukante nuvvu ban avadam khayam ani decide ayya
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Raman:

soo muskuni kshamapanalu cheppu tataki




Oka caste ni antha direct gaa degrade chesadu kabatti thittaan...chesi vundakapothe case ledhu...i will say sorry to puri

chesi vuntey matram aadu chetha naa konde gadu
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Maverick:

dalits are still dalits now,nuvvu dalit ani stamp esi reservation ane biscuit esaru.nuvvu cheptunna social equality ekkada?


first lets identify the problem. i am saying the seeds of discrimination were sown in our religious books which translated into cultural practices and historical racism. what to do about it is anyone's choice.
while it is a good trend that pandits are renouncing those practices, it is sad to see that they are still in denial about the historical abuse and the roots of that abuse
"Paricharyatmakam karmam shudarasyapi swabhavajam" in Gita chapter 18(44)
Meaning: "The four castes are created by me and the duty of the shudra is to serve the other three castes"

Aadi Sankara said: "Shudradhi sparsane snanam Karyam shudheem abheepsidha"
Meaning: "Take a bath if seeing a shudra. Take a bath if the low caste approaches nearby".
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2000 years back chaakali vaadi intlo putte pillodu intelligent aithe gullo panthulni chese vaallaa ? inka cheppandi sami




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Vyäsa, a brähmin sage and the most revered author of many Vedic scriptures including Vedas, MBh, BhG and BhP, was the son of Satyavati, a sudra woman. Vyäsa's profound knowledge of the Vedic wisdom established him to as a brähmin even when he was born of a sudra mother. Vyäsa's father, Päräsara, was also a son of a candala woman and yet was considered a brahmin based on his Vedic wisdom. Another popular Vedic sage Välmiki, was initially a hunter. He came to be known as a brähmin sage on the basis of his profound knowledge of the scriptures and his authorship of the Rämäyana. According to RV (IX.112.3), the poet refers to his diverse parentage: âI am a reciter of hymns, my father is a physician and my mother grinds corn with stones. We desire to obtain wealth in various actions.â Sage Aitareya, author of AU, was born of a sudra woman. Vasiçtha, son of a prostitute, was established as a brahmin and RV book VII is attributed to him. In CU, the honesty of Satyakäma establishes his brahminhood, even though his ancestry is unknown as he is the son of a maid-servant. Visvamitra born in a ksatriya family becomes a sage, and hence a brahmin, based on his asceticism. Some RV hymns are attributed to him. The priest Vidathin Bhärdväja became a kçatriya as soon as he was adopted by king Bharata and his descendents were the well-known Bharata kçatriyas. Janaka, a ksatriya by birth, attained the rank of a brahmin by virtue of his ripe wisdom and saintly character and is considered a rajarshi (king-sage). Vidura, a brähmin visionary, who gave religious and moral instruction to king Dhrtaräçtra, was born to a woman servant of the palace. His varna as a brähmin was determined on the basis of his wisdom and knowledge of scriptures. The Kauravas and Pandavas were the descendants of Satyavati, a fisher-woman, and Vyäsa, a brahmin. In spite of this mixed heredity, the Kauravas and Pändavas were known as Kçatriyas on the basis of their occupation. Ajamidha and Puramidha were admitted to the status of the brahmin class, and even composed Vedic hymns. Yaska, in his Nirukta, tells us that of two brothers, Santanu and Devapi, one becomes a ksatriya king and the other a brahmin priest. Kavasa, the son of the slave girl Ilusa, becomes a brahmin priest. The BP tells of the elevation of the ksatriya clan named Dhastru to brahminhood. In the later Vedic times, Chandragupta Maurya, originally from the Muria tribe, goes on to become the famous Mauryan emperor of Magadha. Similarly, his descendant, king Asoka, was the son of a maid-servant. The Sanskrit poet and author Kalidasa is also not known to be brahmin by birth. His works are considered among the most important Sanskrit works. In the medieval period, saint Thiruvalluvar, author of Thirukural was a weaver. Other saints such as Kabir, Sura Dasa, Ram Dasa and Tukaram came from the sudra class also. Many of the great visionaries in modern India were not brahmin by birth but can be regarded as brähmins by their life-styles and teachings: Mahätmä Gändhi, Swämi Vivekänada, Sri Aurobindo, Maharçi Maheça Yogi, Swämi Chinmayänanda etc.

Read more: http://www.swaveda.com/articles.php?action=show&id=26#ixzz1R SONqNaX



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sankar kurrod time loo viagra ledhu...bathikipoyaru...lekapothe enni parakai's chesevaado chetha naa koo
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Kamal:

The devotees of the Lord are not sudras; sudras are they who have no faith in the Lord whichever be their varna.� MBh says that a wise man should not slight even an outcaste if he is devoted to the Lord; he who looks down on him will fall into hell. SantiParva, MBh also says that there is no superior varna. The universe is the work of the Immense Being. The beings created by him were only divided into varnas according to their aptitude. BhG also says,


malli ee angle kuda undhaa hinduism lo. idhedho abrahamic teaching laaga undhi


Kamal:

It is by education and upbringing that one becomes `twice born', that is, a dvija.


avunu mari India lo upper caste vaallu dalit ni chusi chee veediki education ledhu ani discriminate chestaaru . anduke eduru padithe cheppulu ethi chankalo pettukovali , vere baavi lo neellu taagaali, lanti rules ettaaru
"Paricharyatmakam karmam shudarasyapi swabhavajam" in Gita chapter 18(44)
Meaning: "The four castes are created by me and the duty of the shudra is to serve the other three castes"

Aadi Sankara said: "Shudradhi sparsane snanam Karyam shudheem abheepsidha"
Meaning: "Take a bath if seeing a shudra. Take a bath if the low caste approaches nearby".
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Sanman nuvvu naa question ki answer ivvaledu,history references deniki.dalits are still dalits now,nuvvu dalit ani stamp esi reservation ane biscuit esaru.nuvvu cheptunna social equality ekkada?why dont u fight against that?kiki

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Shankaracharya ki against ga viagra gadni tecchi shnkaracharya paruvu teeyaku,,
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Kamal:

Due to this fair separation of political and intellectual powers, ancient Indian society could not turn itself into a theocratic or autocratic society.


fair separation aa ? every generation ki separate chese vaallaa lekapothe panthulla intlo pudithe autometric gaa intelligent aipothaada. 2000 years back chaakali vaadi intlo putte pillodu intelligent aithe gullo panthulni chese vaallaa ? inka cheppandi sami
"Paricharyatmakam karmam shudarasyapi swabhavajam" in Gita chapter 18(44)
Meaning: "The four castes are created by me and the duty of the shudra is to serve the other three castes"

Aadi Sankara said: "Shudradhi sparsane snanam Karyam shudheem abheepsidha"
Meaning: "Take a bath if seeing a shudra. Take a bath if the low caste approaches nearby".
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2000 years gaa gurtuku raani equality



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Kamal:

"time of reckoning" ane usage vastundi ..


kiki idhedho baibilu lo line laaga feel autunnaaru pandithulu. kharma kaalithe ani chaduvukondi. 2000 years gaa gurtuku raani equality ee madhyana pandits ki enduku gurtuku vastundho telusukovalani undhi
"Paricharyatmakam karmam shudarasyapi swabhavajam" in Gita chapter 18(44)
Meaning: "The four castes are created by me and the duty of the shudra is to serve the other three castes"

Aadi Sankara said: "Shudradhi sparsane snanam Karyam shudheem abheepsidha"
Meaning: "Take a bath if seeing a shudra. Take a bath if the low caste approaches nearby".
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There were four varnas: brahmin, ksatriya, vaisya and sudra. The basic idea was division of labor in the society. Brahmin was defined as brahman nayati iti brahmin. People who preached spiritual teachings to the society and lived spiritual lives were called brahmins. Ksatriya is defined as kseeyate traayate iti ksatriya. These were the people who protected the society against external attacks and maintained internal order. Vaisya is defined as visati iti vaisya. Businessmen, traders and farmers fall under this category. Sudras were the people engaged in services. Carpenters, blacksmiths, goldsmiths, cobblers, porters etc fall under this category. This system ensured that the religious, political, financial and physical powers were all separated into four different social classes. Due to this fair separation of political and intellectual powers, ancient Indian society could not turn itself into a theocratic or autocratic society.

In the beginning, there was only one varna in the ancient Indian society. âWe were all brahmins or all sudrasâ, says BU (1.4, 11-5, 1.31) and also MBh (12.188). A smrti text says that one is born a sudra, and through purification he becomes a brahmin. According to BhG, varna is conferred on the basis of the intrinsic nature of an individual, which is a combination of three gunas (qualities) sattva, rajas, and tamas. In the MBh SantiParva, Yudhisthira defines a brähmin as one who is truthful, forgiving, and kind. He clearly points out that a brähmin is not a brähmin just because he is born in a brähmin family, nor is a sudra a sudra because his parents are sudras. Same concept is mentioned in MS. Another scripture AD states that by birth every human being is a sudra. It is by education and upbringing that one becomes `twice born', that is, a dvija. Manu sums up the relative status and functions of the varnas in the following verse of MS: âThe brahmin acquires his status by his knowledge, the ksatriya by his martial vigor; the vaisya by wealth; and the sudra by birth alone.â In the BhG, 4.13, Krsna says: "The fourfold varna has been created by Me according to the differentiation of guna (qualities)." In BhG 18.41, Krsna states: "The devotees of the Lord are not sudras; sudras are they who have no faith in the Lord whichever be their varna.â MBh says that a wise man should not slight even an outcaste if he is devoted to the Lord; he who looks down on him will fall into hell. SantiParva, MBh also says that there is no superior varna. The universe is the work of the Immense Being. The beings created by him were only divided into varnas according to their aptitude. BhG also says, "Of brahmins, ksatriyas and vaisyas, as also the sudras, O Arjuna, and the duties are distributed according to the qualities born of their own nature." According to Hitopades, all mankind is one family. MS (11.157) says, "Just as a wooden toy elephant cannot be real elephant, and a stuffed deer cannot be a real deer, so, without studying scriptures and the Vedas and the development of intellect, a brahmin by birth cannot be considered a brahmin.â

In my opinion, all the above quotations and references point out that the varnas were designated to a person based on oneâs aptitude, quality, mental state and characteristic. Although birth or parentage may have played an important role in the later times, the original system seems to be based on quality of a person rather than on birth alone. Even when the varna was ascribed based on birth; there are a number of examples from the mythology and history of ancient India to demonstrate the flexibility and mobility among the varnas.

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...bagane estanad levayya....debut loney Five For theesthaara eti

Inthaki Dronacharyud elavyudiki enduku Vidya nerpinchanu annaad?

asal matti kunda loo puttina drona goridhi ye kulam?

Asalu mee "Vashishtudu" Deva Vesya "oorvasi" ki son kadhaaa....ayana casette enti...

andhra brammalu claim linage from viswamitra anukunta kadhaaa....asal vishy dolling dhi yem casette?

comon tell me...yes i will ask these kochens

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Raman:

ide mata meeda narabali nijamga sesi unte ani NTR ni butul tittocha?
endukehe nee hatred .. without shnkara there is no hinduism . no rama and krishna...without hinduism there is no casstte
without rama and krishna and casstte there is no NTR n other heroes and paritala n ranga kinda of leaders.
without hinduism there is no R and therefore there can not be any YSRR ot YSJR
soo muskuni kshamapanalu cheppu tataki




simple gaa Aadylani maruvaraadu antaav I agree
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Duvva_abbulu:

Sanman kurrod vaadina context lo meaning "Chesina Thappu ki Phalitham chellichalsina Roju vachetappatiki"




Thanks.... nowonder ekam babai ki kaaaladam lo
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Sanman annaduku kadhu duvva clipat pettinanduku kaalinda annai? kiki
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thooo aaademmaa parakai gadu (nijangaa ani vuntey)


ide mata meeda narabali nijamga sesi unte ani NTR ni butul tittocha?
endukehe nee hatred .. without shnkara there is no hinduism . no rama and krishna...without hinduism there is no casstte
without rama and krishna and casstte there is no NTR n other heroes and paritala n ranga kinda of leaders.
without hinduism there is no R and therefore there can not be any YSRR ot YSJR
soo muskuni kshamapanalu cheppu tataki
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Kamal:

evidences pettu ..




Raman:

sanman tammudoo nee info sources ikkada ettu general statement sodi vaddu




the thing i like about arguing with kamalai is he asks proof for generally accepted theories like india lo caste discrimination undhi anadaniki aadhaaralu enti...baapins domination ki proofs ettu...sun east lo rise autundhi anadaniki google links ivvu...

ivi chaduvuko ee rojuki. saripoka pothe google kottu caste discrimination in ancient india, dalits in ancient india etc

The first upper-caste temple to openly welcome Dalits into their fold was the Sri Padmanabhaswamy temple in Thiruvananthapuram, erstwhile Travancore in the year 1936; the move was spearheaded by social reformer Ayyankali. In 1936, the Maharaja of Travancore proclaimed that "outcastes should not be denied the consolations and the solace of the Hindu faith". Even today, the Sri Padmanabhaswamy temple that first welcomed Dalits in the state of Kerala is revered by the Dalit Hindu community.


The Indian caste system is a system of social stratification and social restriction in India in which communities are defined by thousands of endogamous hereditary groups called Jatis.
The Jatis were hypothetically and formally grouped by the Brahminical texts under the four well known categories (the varnas): viz Brahmins (scholars, teachers, fire priests), Vaishyas (agriculturists, cattle raisers, traders, bankers), Kshatriyas (kings, warriors, law enforcers, administrators), Shudras (artisans, craftsmen, service providers). Certain people like foreigners, nomads, forest tribes and the chandalas (who dealt with disposal of the dead) were excluded altogether and treated as untouchables. Although generally identified with Hinduism, the caste system was also observed among followers of other religions in the Indian subcontinent, including some groups of Muslims and Christians,[1][Full citation needed] most likely due to inherited cultural traits. Theoretically, all foreigners are considered to be casteless and hence outcast [2] [3]
meaning that orthodox upper caste families would not touch or invite them to their homes.


We find a development of this idea in the law books called Dharmashastras (300 B.C.E. to 500 C.E.). The first three varnas are known as the twice-born and are composed of Brahman priests and advisers, warriors and rulers, and merchants, all of whom undergo a ceremony in their youth admitting them into high status. Shudras, generally any caste that did manual work, were denied the privilege of studying the Vedas and were cast into a servant position. Untouchables were and are below the Shudras in any ranking, considered polluting to all and generally given the work in society that is filthy or demeaning.

In both law books and the epics, we find references to burning ghat workers, individuals who generally worked in the burning ghats with corpses and are considered unclean. A play from around the fifth century C.E., Mrichcha katika (The little clay cart) by Shudraka, includes two executioners who are actually quite intelligent and humorous but nevertheless untouchable. Burning ghat workers and executioners are two of the occupations still considered most polluting. The idea of persons who pollute was present early on, but the phenomenon of polluting castes developed later.


And today, most consider Hinduism or Sanatan Dharma or Vedic Dharma to be primarily characterized by this birth-based discrimination having its origin in massacre of the Dasyu or Daas. Its a pity that this theory has led to alienation of a large number of our brothers and sisters who consider themselves Anarya (non-Arya) and bear a grudge against those who follow Vedas. These include those who call themselves Dalit or Dravid these days.
"Paricharyatmakam karmam shudarasyapi swabhavajam" in Gita chapter 18(44)
Meaning: "The four castes are created by me and the duty of the shudra is to serve the other three castes"

Aadi Sankara said: "Shudradhi sparsane snanam Karyam shudheem abheepsidha"
Meaning: "Take a bath if seeing a shudra. Take a bath if the low caste approaches nearby".
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dubbesh,

seems kamlesh busy ga vunnattu vunnadu....nuvvanna seppii

"time of reckoning" ante emito




Sanman kurrod vaadina context lo meaning "Chesina Thappu ki Phalitham chellichalsina Roju vachetappatiki"
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aa nuvvu kshetra palakudivi memu hinduism ni dhvamsam cheyadaniki vachina dushtulam mari.



LOL .. nee content ki source marxist $hit ani cheppa anthe .. antha daanike .. nannu edo Hindu warrior type lo project cheyyaku .. nenu ooka lo eeka .. India lo crores of people unnaru .. ade asalaina army .. !
When your enemy calls you 'Shershah', you are none other than Param Veer Chakra Capt. Vikram Batra. For him, the Tiranga was more than a piece of cloth! Jai Hind!
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oorake navvaku akkada line and length marachi wide bowling estunnadu .. mee vargalallo hilight ayyundvachu mee history source wti ani adugutunnadu tana source gaani tana statement ki okka proof gani ettamante mahabhratamlo karnudu ekalvyudu nabonda ani okate savadobbdu
asla mahabharatam jarigindi ani nammutaada ante lede ..
vishayanni nammaru gani question cheyyadniki quote setharu
meerayya panditulu ..
manishi ring road kaadu mountain roadlaga melikalu tiruggadu ..
pakkodni tirigavu antunnadu .. maha panditudu ..
oka source cheppadu kaani maa source tappantadu..
next 200 years meeve tammudu :d
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dubbesh,

seems kamlesh busy ga vunnattu vunnadu....nuvvanna seppii

"time of reckoning" ante emito
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Sanman:

aa nuvvu kshetra palakudivi memu hinduism ni dhvamsam cheyadaniki vachina dushtulam mari.



Sanman:

simple kochen ki outer ring road kanna ekkuva melikalu tirugutunnaaru pandithulu




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ooravatala gudiselu enduku ani simple kochen ki outer ring road kanna ekkuva melikalu tirugutunnaaru pandithulu



oori avatala gudiselu concept .. only last 200-300 years vachina "duraacharam" ani ippatiki kanisam 10 sarlu cheppa .. neeku melikalu kanipistunnayi .. akkada inko kurrod ki bouncers kanipistunnayi ..

intaki .. caste discrimination, slavery, untouchability gurinchi nee sources evi? nuvvu deniki kshetra palakudivo naaku samajh ayyindi le nee posts chusaka gaani .. evidences pettu ..
When your enemy calls you 'Shershah', you are none other than Param Veer Chakra Capt. Vikram Batra. For him, the Tiranga was more than a piece of cloth! Jai Hind!
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ilanti vallu entha mandi visham chimmina sare .. Hinduism ki emi avvadu ..




Kamal:

marxist propagandists




aa nuvvu kshetra palakudivi memu hinduism ni dhvamsam cheyadaniki vachina dushtulam mari. ittaa anukone mana annalu vday roju streets midha veerangam chestaaru. ooravatala gudiselu enduku ani simple kochen ki outer ring road kanna ekkuva melikalu tirugutunnaaru pandithulu
"Paricharyatmakam karmam shudarasyapi swabhavajam" in Gita chapter 18(44)
Meaning: "The four castes are created by me and the duty of the shudra is to serve the other three castes"

Aadi Sankara said: "Shudradhi sparsane snanam Karyam shudheem abheepsidha"
Meaning: "Take a bath if seeing a shudra. Take a bath if the low caste approaches nearby".
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ikkada eti jaruguthundhi?




Nidhi loo mee share 20 percent ani kamal kurrod antunnaad...minimum 30 ivvakapothe kudardu ani sanman kurrod pattubattadu

vaataalu thegatledhu...kottukuntunnaru
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Kamal:

"time of reckoning"




kamlesh honest ga septunnaa...daani meaning telvadu....plz...anuvadinchu....hindi aina parla
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denemma .. entha bias lekapothe "time of reckoning" ane usage vastundi .. ilanti vallu entha mandi visham chimmina sare .. Hinduism ki emi avvadu .. oka Gautama Buddha lanti goppa tattvikulani .. aurangazeb lanti beasts ni face chesi nilabadindi .. ee tokkalo marxist propagandists valla poyindemi ledu .. !
When your enemy calls you 'Shershah', you are none other than Param Veer Chakra Capt. Vikram Batra. For him, the Tiranga was more than a piece of cloth! Jai Hind!
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ikkada eti jaruguthundhi?
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Raman:

malli adi mana circle lone highlighted aa ..
LWA annai meevodi line and length ila undi ..
first brammalu kings dwara shudras ni eliminate sesar annadu
tarvata shudras lone kondar kings ayi undochu annadu
mallee ippudu inkotedo antunnadu



Sanman:

idhi mana circles lo highlight kaavochu.



lite teesuko .. first veelaithe .. authentic history nunchi .. untouchability, slavery, discrimination (anni nuvvu use chesina words ee) is practiced in India from time immemorial ani prove cheyyi .. because .. nenu anand ki oka post vesthe .. oopukuntu vachi objection raise chesindi nuvvu .. it is imperative on you to provide evidence .. !
When your enemy calls you 'Shershah', you are none other than Param Veer Chakra Capt. Vikram Batra. For him, the Tiranga was more than a piece of cloth! Jai Hind!
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eti levaaa


15th century daka levu ani kondaru travellers sepparu ani seppalani undi
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siggi size anna tagginchu ekambabai...chaala ebbettu gaa vundhi....content lo vishayam vunna kooda
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indak post cheddam anukunna matterto ippudu matter mix ayyindi
nenu jump avutunna cofeeki
sanman tammudoo nee info sources ikkada ettu general statement sodi vaddu
history telsukuni tarista..

Sanman:

pandithula pani baagundhi. oka 2000 years caste rules midha dominate chesi dobbaaru. ippudu time of reckoning vachetappatiki character ni batti discrimination anta


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>>chupinchu okka line showing that dalits enjoyed same social status ani

oke,history lo ledu.ippudu undantava? are they enjoying same social status?
Tamandam
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Sanman:

idhi mana circles lo highlight kaavochu. adhe history ante elaa.



Jupiter:


I guess Hinduism does NOT believe in conversions ...


This is wrong statement considering kings like Krishna devaraya accepted vaishnavism under the influence of tata charya patronized Vishnu temples in the later part of his rule. He was involved in supporting Shiva temples at the beginning of his rule.

Read in some books about Tenali ramakrishna whose actual name was tenali rama âlinga â The name change was forced by the king himself.
There were many kings converted to vaishnavism or shivism .
ok dalits kings ayyaru ante 4-5 examples .. mottam kings andaru shudras ante nannu ezzamples adugutaavu gaani nee ezzample ledu ..
mana source ekkadido cheppeyyi aa book chadukuni knowledge penchesukunta ..
mana circle lo highlight ayinde history kabatti alage kaniddam.

Logically brahmins are the pillars of hindu society ayinappudu attack brahmins to destoy hindu society . ane logic enduku ardam kaadu? malli adi mana circle lone highlighted aa ..
LWA annai meevodi line and length ila undi ..
first brammalu kings dwara shudras ni eliminate sesar annadu
tarvata shudras lone kondar kings ayi undochu annadu
mallee ippudu inkotedo antunnadu

Sanman:

pandithula pani baagundhi. oka 2000 years caste rules midha dominate chesi dobbaaru. ippudu time of reckoning vachetappatiki character ni batti discrimination anta


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nenu vallani pilichi sana sarlu bhojanam petta omericalonu indialonu ..




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shudras lonchi dalits loki vellava?
fine then .. dalits were not exploited by those people who wont touch them .and have nohing to do with them. ippudu dalit intiki velli bhojanam seste emiti seyyakapote emiti vallaki haani cheyyakunda unte chalukada?
ofcourse dalits discriminated me never called me for lunch are dinner ..
nenu vallani pilichi sana sarlu bhojanam petta omericalonu indialonu ..

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pandithula pani baagundhi. oka 2000 years caste rules midha dominate chesi dobbaaru. ippudu time of reckoning vachetappatiki character ni batti discrimination anta


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Kamal:

specific ga Brahmins ni vethiki pattukochi champandi ani orders were carried out?


idhi mana circles lo highlight kaavochu. adhe history ante elaa.

Kamal:

Guru Tej Bahadur lanti vallu enduku vacharo telusuko ..


daantlo baapins goppatanam ento naku ardham kaaledhu.

aina peace time lo domestic abuse chesina vaallani defend cheyadaniki common enemy ni chupinchalsi vastundhaa lol

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starting from greek travellers to chinese travellers ..


adhe adigedhi. chupinchu okka line showing that dalits enjoyed same social status ani
"Paricharyatmakam karmam shudarasyapi swabhavajam" in Gita chapter 18(44)
Meaning: "The four castes are created by me and the duty of the shudra is to serve the other three castes"

Aadi Sankara said: "Shudradhi sparsane snanam Karyam shudheem abheepsidha"
Meaning: "Take a bath if seeing a shudra. Take a bath if the low caste approaches nearby".
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>>books lo khatriyas and vysyas ki next place enduku ? source of income anenaa ? knowledge pongi porlutunna brahmins dalits intlo kaaryaalu chese vaara ? dalits illu anni oorlallo oka pakka enduku untai. history lo ledha mythology lo vaallani equal citizens gaa treat chesina instances emanna unnaya.

tammud nuvvu broader classification choosi badha padutunnav..if u r worried about classification..appudu ippudu same classification undi..appudu dalit ani cheppi emi icchevallu kaadu..ippudu dalit ani stamp esi reservation istunnaru...rentiki teda enti? ippudunna laws kooda brahmins ee design chesara?
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untouchable INDIA
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Kamal:

length and breadth of India lo .. across all time periods .. caste discrimination, tight design of control, untouchability .. lanti vices unnayani??




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Maverick:

did dalits occupy the same social status as vysyas
did dalits occupy the same social status as kshatriyas?


adhe enduku antunna. books lo khatriyas and vysyas ki next place enduku ? source of income anenaa ? knowledge pongi porlutunna brahmins dalits intlo kaaryaalu chese vaara ? dalits illu anni oorlallo oka pakka enduku untai. history lo ledha mythology lo vaallani equal citizens gaa treat chesina instances emanna unnaya.
ippatiki ee db lo entha mandhi FCs oka dalit intlo bhonchesi untaaru.
ee rules framers evaru. followers evaru
"Paricharyatmakam karmam shudarasyapi swabhavajam" in Gita chapter 18(44)
Meaning: "The four castes are created by me and the duty of the shudra is to serve the other three castes"

Aadi Sankara said: "Shudradhi sparsane snanam Karyam shudheem abheepsidha"
Meaning: "Take a bath if seeing a shudra. Take a bath if the low caste approaches nearby".
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Sanman:

avunu. soldiers ni vadilesi brahmins ni matrame sampaar mughals. cultures that resisted most punjab, rajasthan lo chachindi brahmins aa ? agreed somnath massacre lo brahmins showed great courage. but remember it is after the fall of army and town. not just brahmins.



LOL .. adi neeku telisina history .. Babar, Humayun, Aurangazeb courts lo .. even when the times were not of war .. specific ga Brahmins ni vethiki pattukochi champandi ani orders were carried out? mee romilla madam rayaleda aa history gurinchi? Guru Tej Bahadur lanti vallu enduku vacharo telusuko .. same Punjab nunchi .. appudu nee history entha correcto neeku telustundi ..

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thats the reason i am asking you to post references, instances, suggestions, stories, anything that depicts that at some point dalits occupied the same social status as brahmins. so far you came up with a couple of historians, a few non human mythological characters and finally your grandfather. let us get to reality quick



starting from greek travellers to chinese travellers .. court history of shivaji and krishna devaraya periods .. boledu material undi .. mauryan rule, chola rule, pandya rule, satavahana rule .. anniti gurinchi chaduvu .. appudu reality telustundi .. anthe tappa .. can you give me one authentic source of history where you can prove that .. length and breadth of India lo .. across all time periods .. caste discrimination, tight design of control, untouchability .. lanti vices unnayani??
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>>that at some point dalits occupied the same social status as brahmins.

did dalits occupy the same social status as vysyas
did dalits occupy the same social status as kshatriyas?
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Raman:




sarle....nee saadastam

mundu siggi teesi dobbu....saana sandalikamga vundi....
also tammi anadku....nuvvu andrudivi..helapoori nivaasudivi.....ishan&co anadam lo meaning vundi...
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Kamal:

mughals chetilo velallo chachina brahmins gurinchi matladave???


avunu. soldiers ni vadilesi brahmins ni matrame sampaar mughals. cultures that resisted most punjab, rajasthan lo chachindi brahmins aa ? agreed somnath massacre lo brahmins showed great courage. but remember it is after the fall of army and town. not just brahmins.


Kamal:

3500 years known history unte .. last 250-300 years daggara aagipoyi .. mottam ilage undi ani cheppadam .. LMAO .. atleast try to act some neutrality ..


thats the reason i am asking you to post references, instances, suggestions, stories, anything that depicts that at some point dalits occupied the same social status as brahmins. so far you came up with a couple of historians, a few non human mythological characters and finally your grandfather. let us get to reality quick
"Paricharyatmakam karmam shudarasyapi swabhavajam" in Gita chapter 18(44)
Meaning: "The four castes are created by me and the duty of the shudra is to serve the other three castes"

Aadi Sankara said: "Shudradhi sparsane snanam Karyam shudheem abheepsidha"
Meaning: "Take a bath if seeing a shudra. Take a bath if the low caste approaches nearby".
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Siloan:


le tammi nvuu mana lwa annai ante naaku konchem sarasam ..
argue settaru gaani leg pulling matuke peddaga feel kaanu ..ippudu nuvvu feel ayyavani telsi sana feelavutunna

Sanman:

pandithula pani baagundhi. oka 2000 years caste rules midha dominate chesi dobbaaru. ippudu time of reckoning vachetappatiki character ni batti discrimination anta


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Raman:

neeki siloanki eti nachuddo maaku telvada?
inka waiting endi nuvvu nee edava mogamatam .. kadupulo unnanta mottam kakkayi..




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Kamal:

kaani false history raasukuni .. victim card play cheyyatam matram tappu


idi asalaina point .. vallaki telsu kaani ardam kanattu natistaru .. charitra lo eppudaina balamunnodide rajyam .. as simple as that malee deeniki oka cassette angle oka victim card endukehe my 2 cents

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pandithula pani baagundhi. oka 2000 years caste rules midha dominate chesi dobbaaru. ippudu time of reckoning vachetappatiki character ni batti discrimination anta


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Raman:

neeki siloanki eti nachuddo maaku telvada?




ekam babai dil pe mat le....anaga hrudyam meedhaki teeskoku.....nee daggara maatram.,,,eppudu legpullinge
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Raman:

Nenu anukunedi matram SC/ST/BC lanu brhmins vysyas kshtriyas meedaki egadosi
konni shudra kulalu desanni rule chestunnaru vallade next 2000 years apart from having good time over last 2000 years



tappu ledu annai rule chesthe dharmam ga .. andaru baagu padachu .. there is enough space for everyone in Hindu society .. kaani false history raasukuni .. victim card play cheyyatam matram tappu .. edanna unte .. aamne-samne chusukovali kaani .. abaddalatho panenti?
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sanman kurrod ki naa taraphuna oka goli soda
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Duvva_abbulu:

sanman kurrod bowling bagundhi...erry good pace...accurate bouncers


scoreboard chusukuntunnara? enni balls ki OUT ani note cheyyalanipistondi?
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Duvva_abbulu:


neeki siloanki eti nachuddo maaku telvada?
inka waiting endi nuvvu nee edava mogamatam .. kadupulo unnanta mottam kakkayi..
shudras enakamala konni vela kotla sampada undi deasamlo ekkadninchi vachindo teleedu kaani bapanodi meeda edupu .. neeki dabbul kavala sastram kavala ani adigite dabbul teeskunta nenu ..
Nenu anukunedi matram SC/ST/BC lanu brhmins vysyas kshtriyas meedaki egadosi
konni shudra kulalu desanni rule chestunnaru vallade next 2000 years apart from having good time over last 2000 years :d

Sanman:

pandithula pani baagundhi. oka 2000 years caste rules midha dominate chesi dobbaaru. ippudu time of reckoning vachetappatiki character ni batti discrimination anta


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Sanman:

rendu correste. ippatiki chaala mandhi fcs and bcs mem khatriyaas ani cheppukoga vinnaanu. evaru king aina evaru queen aina purohitulu matram brahmins ae kadha. chaala tight gaa design chesaaru mahaanubhaavulu. bhoodaanaalu godhaanaalu anni brahmalaki chendevi kaani sudrulu daanaalaki patrulu ainatlu ekkada chadavaledhu. karanam vyavastha daani result ae kadha.
nizam lo tulaks occupy chesukunna fcs and brahmins domination matram poledhu. tulaks tho chetulu kalipi administration okaru revenue okaru enchakka share chesukunnaru lower caste vaallu matram slavery continue



mughals chetilo velallo chachina brahmins gurinchi matladave??? ika brahmin avvadaniki birth ee opportunity ani evadu cheppadu? who was viswamitra?? paiga "design" chesarata .. vallaki vere ye vidhamaina vruthi dwara .. "aarjinche" opportunity ledu .. adi telusa? they were not allowed to 'earn' money .. evaraina sare .. donate cheste ne sampadinchukovali .. and daniki kuda conditions unnayi .. the donation should be a respect towards the knowledge and not any other services the brahmin provides .. ivi anni consider chesava? tight design study chesinappudu? LOL

malli emanna ante .. nizam gadi zamana gurinchi matladatam .. 3500 years known history unte .. last 250-300 years daggara aagipoyi .. mottam ilage undi ani cheppadam .. LMAO .. atleast try to act some neutrality ..
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kamlesh kurrod kooda lagetthu thunnad RUNS kosam....
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EK dollin ee roju nee batting

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voverall gaa line and length loo kummaad

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Raman:

panditulu shudras ni dominate sesaru annavu iffudu shudras okappudu kshatriyas ani tink setharu antunnav edo okati confirm seyyi correst ..


rendu correste. ippatiki chaala mandhi fcs and bcs mem khatriyaas ani cheppukoga vinnaanu. evaru king aina evaru queen aina purohitulu matram brahmins ae kadha. chaala tight gaa design chesaaru mahaanubhaavulu. bhoodaanaalu godhaanaalu anni brahmalaki chendevi kaani sudrulu daanaalaki patrulu ainatlu ekkada chadavaledhu. karanam vyavastha daani result ae kadha.
nizam lo tulaks occupy chesukunna fcs and brahmins domination matram poledhu. tulaks tho chetulu kalipi administration okaru revenue okaru enchakka share chesukunnaru lower caste vaallu matram slavery continue
"Paricharyatmakam karmam shudarasyapi swabhavajam" in Gita chapter 18(44)
Meaning: "The four castes are created by me and the duty of the shudra is to serve the other three castes"

Aadi Sankara said: "Shudradhi sparsane snanam Karyam shudheem abheepsidha"
Meaning: "Take a bath if seeing a shudra. Take a bath if the low caste approaches nearby".
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Sanman:

lol ante evaru ? khatriyas and vaisyas kuda naa.



vaarini .. neeku ilanti pichi questions vastayi ane cheppa .. shudras ante fixed people .. based on birth kaadu .. based on character ani .. and infact .. based on my work and character .. I am shudra ani cheppanu .. nuvvu telivi ga .. nee family ideal .. desam ala kaadu ani comedy chestunnav ..

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nuvvu em cheppina nammaali kaani adhi jarigindi palletoollo naa. friendship ante kompa teesi paalerlani friends ani cheppukuntaara mee oorlo.
ippudu first hinduism lo caste discrimination undhi anedhe nammadam ledha thed lo hathavidhi



yes .. palletollo .. Rajamundry daggara .. ninnu namminchataniki cheppaledu nenu .. naaku unna convictions desam lo chala mandiki unnayi .. nuvvu okkadive abyudayavadivi kaadu ani cheppadaniki cheppa ..

LOL .. palerlani friends ani cheppi .. ninnu convince chesesi .. brownie points sampadincheyyala? murigipoyina marxist glasses teesesi chudu saami .. even 400-500 years back India lo caste discrimination intha prevalent ga ledu .. and there are several accounts to that effect ..

lastly .. neeku edi chudali .. edi project cheyyali Hinduism gurinchi ante ade cheyyi .. kaani .. plz make sure it is truth ..
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asalu kshatriya ki definition ae ledhu. all sudras think they were kshatriyas at one time.


malli ee tune endi saamy panditulu shudras ni dominate sesaru annavu iffudu shudras okappudu kshatriyas ani tink setharu antunnav edo okati confirm seyyi correst ..intaki shudras meeda domination jariginda leda??
rao bahaddar diwan bahaddar jamindar saar vaadu kasta cheppu edi corresto

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pandithula pani baagundhi. oka 2000 years caste rules midha dominate chesi dobbaaru. ippudu time of reckoning vachetappatiki character ni batti discrimination anta


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Kamal:

shudra and other ani ardam


lol ante evaru ? khatriyas and vaisyas kuda naa. ippati daaka db lo jarigina daadaapu anni discussions lo mee family ideal gaa ne undhi. manam matlaadukunedhi overall India gurinchi.

Kamal:

my grandfather had dalit friends and we are proud to be so ..


nuvvu em cheppina nammaali kaani adhi jarigindi palletoollo naa. friendship ante kompa teesi paalerlani friends ani cheppukuntaara mee oorlo.
ippudu first hinduism lo caste discrimination undhi anedhe nammadam ledha thed lo hathavidhi
"Paricharyatmakam karmam shudarasyapi swabhavajam" in Gita chapter 18(44)
Meaning: "The four castes are created by me and the duty of the shudra is to serve the other three castes"

Aadi Sankara said: "Shudradhi sparsane snanam Karyam shudheem abheepsidha"
Meaning: "Take a bath if seeing a shudra. Take a bath if the low caste approaches nearby".
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inkaa braammalu endi vayaa.....power poyyi saanaa rojulu ayindi kadaa.......kams,red,vels,kaps ni kummandi
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books lo nemo sudrunni chusthe snaanam cheyali sudrulu sevalu cheyali ani raayandi. unna 4-5 exceptions teesukochi adhe history ani cheppandi. direct quotes isthe context adagandi.
malli vere religions ki poina vaalla midha edupu. history pakkana petti ee roju palletoolloki velli oka dalit into bhonchesi vachi tarvaatha hinduism goppatanam gurinchi post cheyandi



nee own interpretation avasarama??? shudradhi ani unte .. shudra and other ani ardam .. adi evado tappu ga translate cheste .. adi pattukochi proof antaventi??? unna 4/5 exceptions enti saami? comedy ga .. edo nuvvu akkada discrimination undi ani prove chesinattu .. nee understanding tappu aithe daniki evadino blame cheyyadam enti? ika .. vere religion lo ki vellina vadi meeda emi edchaam? edupu antunnav? antha mandutonda posts chuste? ika .. untouchability ee roju kaadu .. maa intlo 3 generations kritame evaru practice cheyyaledu .. my grandfather had dalit friends and we are proud to be so .. nee tho neethulu cheppinchukuni certificate teesukovala .. Hindutva gurinchi matladalante ..

next time ilanti disco cheyyalante .. inkoncham authority unna sources teesukuni raa .. ikkada edo memu untouchability ni support chestunnam .. discriminate chestunnam ani coloring iche badulu ..
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Siloan:

IndiaRocks(7284): But one thing is true. YSR was the worst thing to happen to our state, and society. Even educated lo corruption is a virtue anna thinking teesukochadu.
IndiaRocks(7285): CBN religiously followed YSR's vision in all his policies after 2004.
IndiaRocks(7340):ento, no sensible person can support YSR ani naa gatti feeling


i think he is bang on all 3 except there is a typo in 2
"Paricharyatmakam karmam shudarasyapi swabhavajam" in Gita chapter 18(44)
Meaning: "The four castes are created by me and the duty of the shudra is to serve the other three castes"

Aadi Sankara said: "Shudradhi sparsane snanam Karyam shudheem abheepsidha"
Meaning: "Take a bath if seeing a shudra. Take a bath if the low caste approaches nearby".
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Raman:

Sanman:

pandithula pani baagundhi. oka 2000 years caste rules midha dominate chesi dobbaaru. ippudu time of reckoning vachetappatiki character ni batti discrimination anta





ekam babai ki telda...AADYULU evaro?
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IndiaRocks(7340):ento, no sensible person can support YSR ani naa gatti feeling
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Raman:

siloan tammi




sedu savaasalaki poyi...basha ni mana CULTURE ni Brasttu pattisthunnav ekam babai.... tammi endhi....tammulam garu ledha tammudu anu...worst case lo Tambi anna kooda ok..
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IndiaRocks(7285): CBN religiously followed YSR's vision in all his policies after 2004.
IndiaRocks(7340):ento, no sensible person can support YSR ani naa gatti feeling
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Raman:

eee siggy ki siloan tammi aseervadam kuda untadi


baagundi siggy. ee thed sadavani vaallu kuda aalochistaru adhi nijamo kaadho :D
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Raman:

panditulu 2000 years ga dominate sesara? kiki


mari. kshatriyas aithe oka raju ni inko raju champochu. so safe side put yourself on top of the social chain, make yourself immune to socio political transformations, assign menial jobs to lower caste people based on birth, ban them from temples, wells and schools and finally declare that caste means character

Raman:

moguls muslim & british rule lo max debbatindi evaro


i dont see any change of social status even in slavery

Raman:

struggle lo ekkuva sikshalaki guraindi evaro?


brahmins aa ? kshatriyas aa ? asalu kshatriya ki definition ae ledhu. all sudras think they were kshatriyas at one time. all of them were savvy enough to line up with the enemy against their own people.

Raman:

evaru matam marchukuni dabbul dandukuni nayakulu ga edigaaro ?


evaru ? matam marchukunte leadership opportunities untai ani naku telvadhu
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eee siggy ki siloan tammi aseervadam kuda untadi :d

Sanman:

pandithula pani baagundhi. oka 2000 years caste rules midha dominate chesi dobbaaru. ippudu time of reckoning vachetappatiki character ni batti discrimination anta


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Kamal:

facts mattadu sodi kaadu ..




Kamal:


books lo nemo sudrunni chusthe snaanam cheyali sudrulu sevalu cheyali ani raayandi. unna 4-5 exceptions teesukochi adhe history ani cheppandi. direct quotes isthe context adagandi.
malli vere religions ki poina vaalla midha edupu. history pakkana petti ee roju palletoolloki velli oka dalit into bhonchesi vachi tarvaatha hinduism goppatanam gurinchi post cheyandi
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panditulu 2000 years ga dominate sesara? kiki
moguls muslim & british rule lo max debbatindi evaro
struggle lo ekkuva sikshalaki guraindi evaro?
evaru matam marchukuni dabbul dandukuni nayakulu ga edigaaro ?
mottam details kakkai sanman tammi ...
vini taristam...
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ori denemma .. time of reckoning ata .. inka time of crucification kosam kuda wait cheyyandi aithe ..
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Raman:

facts mattadu sodi kaadu ..
ehcaritralo ekkada anyayam jarigindi cheppu ..
nenu chebutunna maurya chandra gupta /nanda dynasty/srikrishna devaraya /nellore rajulu veellandaru shudras ela kings ayyaru?
Actually shudras ruled india more than any one anedi fact .. vallaki vallu kshtriyas ani seppukovachu kaani.
nuvvemo panditulu discriminae sesaru ani color istunnavu ..



tappadu annai .. romilla thapar ala seppindi .. 3000 years nunchi outcastes/untouchables ani .. nijam anavasaram .. adi eti septhe adi .. oxford filla kadaaaaa ..
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pandithula pani baagundhi. oka 2000 years caste rules midha dominate chesi dobbaaru


facts mattadu sodi kaadu ..
ehcaritralo ekkada anyayam jarigindi cheppu ..
nenu chebutunna maurya chandra gupta /nanda dynasty/srikrishna devaraya /nellore rajulu veellandaru shudras ela kings ayyaru?
Actually shudras ruled india more than any one anedi fact .. vallaki vallu kshtriyas ani seppukovachu kaani.
nuvvemo panditulu discriminae sesaru ani color istunnavu ..
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Kamal:




pandithula pani baagundhi. oka 2000 years caste rules midha dominate chesi dobbaaru. ippudu time of reckoning vachetappatiki character ni batti discrimination anta. kamalai oorlo character chusi okadini cheppulu kuttamani inkokadni ooravathala gudiselu vesukomani pamputaaru anukunta
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Tifosi:

Kakpote since these off shoots evolved from hinduism, manaki stark differences kanapaDavu.

Christianity ki ocche varaku, since its from another country having no relation to our traditions at all, it seems more threathning.



you are right in identifying dharmic religions and abrahamic religions .. and also right in using the word "threaten" ..

Tifosi:

Mari vallu dabbu aasa paDaDam lo naaku em tappu kanapaDaTam ledu. Im sure there are hindu orgs that give food medicine and education. If its just about money, given that 80% of our country are hindus, that shouldnt even be a consideration.



you are right .. Hindu orgz do give medicine and education .. kaani they were not able to match xian missionaries till recently .. second, enticement ki services/materials ni use chesukoru 99% hindu orgz .. while the pre-condition for xian missionaries itself is exchange of faith .. hence the difference ..
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Sanman:

1)why did karna have to lie to his teacher that he is a kshatriya.



kshtriya kadu anukunta brahmin ani cheppadu Bcuase bhargavarama otherwise wont teach


Sanman:

2)why was ekalavya denied education


Bcuase it was meant for kings only .. Ippudu nee pillalni muncipality school ki pampistava?
Dronacharya meant for only kings ... same like corporate school .. neeku corporate school ok kaani dronas school not ok naa?


Sanman:

Paricharyatmakam karmam shudarasyapi swabhavajam



akkada kulam definition is not by birth but by deeds

maurya Chandraguptudu Sc/ST bu birth
Dhana nanda dynasty kuda BC/SC/ST
There were reddy kings in andhra ...like manuma siddi

Nuvvu cheppina shankarachary storylone shivudu chandaluniga vachi kallu teripinchadu ani inko story undi .. danni marachava?
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Sanman:

"Paricharyatmakam karmam shudarasyapi swabhavajam" in Gita chapter 18(44)
Meaning: "The four castes are created by me and the duty of the shudra is to serve the other three castes"



naaku complete sloka cheppu .. anthe tappa .. oka line rasi .. dani meaning scholars di ivvu .. anthe tappa "swabhavajam" ante "duty" anukune type scholars vi ivvaku .. plzz .. nijam ga ne discussion pakkadova padutundi ..

Sanman:

Aadi Sankara said: "Shudradhi sparsane snanam Karyam shudheem abheepsidha"
Meaning: "Take a bath if seeing a shudra. Take a bath if the low caste approaches nearby".



Idi kuda anthe .. out of a context cite cheyyaku .. but yes .. aa sloka meaning aithe 'almost nuvvu cheppinde kaani complete kaadu' .. endukante .. "Shudradhi" ante .. Shudras and others .. ani .. not just shudras .. !!!

ika Karna had to lie because the competition he wanted to attend was for warriors trained by a Kshatriya .. and daniki untouchability ki sambandam ledu .. Ivy league vallaki matrame open aina positions ni chupinchi discrimination ante ela? aa rojullo .. for a person to be kshatriya .. it was never birth related .. good example is .. parasurama ..
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Kamal:

Jainism, Buddhism, Sikhism roopam lo .. there were alternative faiths for atleast 2000 years .. kaani they did not convert




Nuvvu Maree Guru....convert avvakapote ela propogate ayyindi aa religion. Kakpote since these off shoots evolved from hinduism, manaki stark differences kanapaDavu.

Christianity ki ocche varaku, since its from another country having no relation to our traditions at all, it seems more threathning.


Kamal:

poverty and the materialistic times we live



Mari vallu dabbu aasa paDaDam lo naaku em tappu kanapaDaTam ledu. Im sure there are hindu orgs that give food medicine and education. If its just about money, given that 80% of our country are hindus, that shouldnt even be a consideration.
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Kamal:


asalu questions ki answers jump kotti side track pattaaventi. cheppu
1)why did karna have to lie to his teacher that he is a kshatriya.
2)why was ekalavya denied education
3) idhi nijamena

"Paricharyatmakam karmam shudarasyapi swabhavajam" in Gita chapter 18(44)
Meaning: "The four castes are created by me and the duty of the shudra is to serve the other three castes"

4) idhi nijamena
Aadi Sankara said: "Shudradhi sparsane snanam Karyam shudheem abheepsidha"
Meaning: "Take a bath if seeing a shudra. Take a bath if the low caste approaches nearby".
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yes .. I am not joking .. Sivananda Ashram valla books lo ekkado chadiva India lo unde rojullo .. even on internet ekkado chadiva okappudu .. how some people in Tamil Nadu, Maharastra and Karnataka pray to Hanuman and think that Hanuman is from a lower caste .. and btw .. those are the places, where Hanuman was supposed to have been born and brought up !
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Tifosi:

Does having the loose stock in the flock benefit hindusim.



I dont see them as loose stock .. they are as valuable as anybody else in importance ..

Ika enduku convert avutunnaru ante .. poverty and the materialistic times we live .. ide sections ki .. Jainism, Buddhism, Sikhism roopam lo .. there were alternative faiths for atleast 2000 years .. kaani they did not convert .. if it was about "discrimination" .. is my point ..
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denemma jeevitam .. icons lo digipoyava appude .. inko aayana kuda inthe .. ! pch ..

anyways .. varna vyavastha ki .. kula vyavastha ki zameen-aasman farak undi .. veelaithe telusukuni ra .. antha matranike zakir naik fan avvakkarledu ..

btw .. I am a Shudra by character .. !
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Kamal:

who think that Hanuma is from a very low caste


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Which section of people get converted. Why are they getting converted?


If all it takes is freebies to entice one to give up their faith, Does having the loose stock in the flock benefit hindusim. What is missing in hinduism to make them so vulnerable for proselytisation
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Kamal:


caste discrimination kaadu saami .. character discrimination ..


hindus ki zakir naik leni lotu teeripoindhi

sare gaani idhi nijamena

Aadi Sankara said: âShudradhi sparsane snanam Karyam shudheem abheepsidhaâ
Meaning: âTake a bath if seeing a shudra. Take a bath if the low caste approaches nearbyâ.
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Sanman:

caste discrimination ledhaa ?



caste discrimination kaadu saami .. character discrimination .. confuse avvaku .. janam ni confuse cheyyaku ..

Sanman:

nothing has been attributed to them based on birth. it is based on their work. they didnt need any opportunity for their work.



hahaha .. emi matladutunnav? they didnt need opportunity enti? Valmiki wrote Ramayana with the help of Lava-Kusa .. Vyasa wrote Bharata with the help of Ganesha .. and they got the best of opportunities .. without any regards to their birth .. but their character !!!

Sanman:

lol jaambavanthudu, garutmanthudu veellani kuda teesukelli dalits lo vestava. maanava jaathi varaku cheppu chaalu.



ori naayano .. there are many people in India .. who think that Hanuma is from a very low caste .. u can check that .. vanarudi ni kuda discriminate cheyyochu .. if thats truth as how u want to portray ..

Sanman:

endhi vaalla achievements ? other than being side characters. plus yadavulu aa states lo forward castes.



kiki .. side characters enti saaami .. argument kosam post cheyyaku please ..
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Kamal:

karnudini, ekalavyudini .. untouchables ga treat chesara?


caste discrimination ledhaa ?

Kamal:

Ramayanam rasina Valmiki, Bharatam rasina Vyasudu


nothing has been attributed to them based on birth. it is based on their work. they didnt need any opportunity for their work.

Kamal:

Hanuma, Sugrivudu,


lol jaambavanthudu, garutmanthudu veellani kuda teesukelli dalits lo vestava. maanava jaathi varaku cheppu chaalu.

Kamal:

Sabari, Krishnudini penchina Nandudu .. vellandaru evaru???


endhi vaalla achievements ? other than being side characters. plus yadavulu aa states lo forward castes.

Eluri_kurradu:

asala deeniki antaranitananik relation ent?


untouchables are lower caste people. samskrutam telisina pandithulu deeni meaning ento konchem cheppandi
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Sanman:

padmanabha swami aalayam treasure rightful gaa evariki chendaali ?


To the local people who worshiped swamy for centuries. Local district treasury ki half, swamy peru meeeda oka trust start chesi the other half.

Trust money tho temple ni inko tirupathi laa cheyyochu...develop it as pilgrim center...vedic schools yoga centers etc ettochu.

District treasury tho develop the district...infrastructure roads airports etc.
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Aa rojullo evari vruthi vallu chesey vallu, indulo diguva jathi vaadiki raaju ayye chance ekkada vundi.


ela sachedi saami meetho? Varna vyavastha ni .. oka 200 ella kritam kula vyavastha tho equal chesi .. ekkada undi antevmi?
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Sanman:

Chaturvarnaalu recent gaa vachinavaa. karnudi katha eppatidhi ? ekalavyudi katha eppatidhi ? itihaasaallo diguva jaathi ki chendina kontha mandi raajula ledha veerula ledha punya purushula perlu cheppandi




Ee varnalu annavi valla profession, birth nundi vachinavi. Aa rojullo evari vruthi vallu chesey vallu, indulo diguva jathi vaadiki raaju ayye chance ekkada vundi. Evari professionlo vallu happygaa vunnaru. Entha mandi raajulu, vysulu, brahmins valla profession kaakundaa verey valla professionlo vunnaru. Appudunna system alantidi.
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Sanman:

Chaturvarnaalu recent gaa vachinavaa. karnudi katha eppatidhi ? ekalavyudi katha eppatidhi ? itihaasaallo diguva jaathi ki chendina kontha mandi raajula ledha veerula ledha punya purushula perlu cheppandi


asala deeniki antaranitananik relation ent?
I'm not a kurradu :D
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Sanman:

Chaturvarnaalu recent gaa vachinavaa. karnudi katha eppatidhi ? ekalavyudi katha eppatidhi ? itihaasaallo diguva jaathi ki chendina kontha mandi raajula ledha veerula ledha punya purushula perlu cheppandi



ide nee lanti vallatho problem .. sarigga telusukoru .. ala ani calm ga undaru ..

karnudini, ekalavyudini .. untouchables ga treat chesara??? comedy aa .. ekkadaina unda ala? Ramayanam rasina Valmiki, Bharatam rasina Vyasudu, Ramudiki preethi patrulu Hanuma, Sugrivudu, Sabari, Krishnudini penchina Nandudu .. vellandaru evaru??? marxist kalladallonchi chuse kondaru .. eggzact same kochens vesaru ..answers isthe .. gup sup soda buddi for some time .. and then again same record .. kikk
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Jupiter:

I guess hinduism does NOT believe in conversions ...



I am not saying convert others , I am talking about curbing attrition :-)


Jupiter:

missionaries spend money and convert in under developed countries .. in christian countries they dont spend a pie on the existing christians is what i believe ...




Not true - I know a lot of church charitable foundations and schools run locally here:-)

Kamal:

xian missionaries take away some poor sections of Hindu society .. the reason why right wingers protest is .. with loss of some sections of Hindu society .. a bit of the character of the beautiful Hindu society goes away .. rendering it incomplete ..




How do you prevent that loss ? Not by screaming from rooftops about evil forces I would think :-)

Kamal:

adi tappu ani ariche Hindus ni .. same path follow avvamanatam is deplorable !



Pakkanodu tappu anatam chala easy and pointless - it does not stem the attrition...vari faith valla ishtam if they chose to trade it for whatever material benefits.The attrition will only slow if people see value in sticking with their faith :-)

Tifosi:

How does one become a hindu



:-) How do you call yourself a Hindu is a bigger question - but we can discuss that some other time :-)

The point here is not about becoming a Hindu but about those who convert out of Hinduism :-)
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Kingaa_bongaa:

eppatnunchi vundhi ee treasure alaaa? british and turaks endhuku vadilesaaru?




ivvaala TV9 lo history program vachindi.

treasure 1700s nunchi pile up ayyindi.

kanee Tip Sultan time ki, Tip Sultan and Dutch vaallu vastunnaarani telisi, underground save chesaaru anta.
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Kingaa_bongaa:

eppatnunchi vundhi ee treasure alaaa? british and turaks endhuku vadilesaaru?




vallu kooDa mana politicians laaga actual viluva under estimate chesaru. I think the kings of travancore fought against tipu and were allied with the british.

Same can be said about tirupati also. It always had money. Even during british and mogul times.

Also the inflation of todays time make it seem all the more exorbitant
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Raman:

I do not know what prompted you to say untouchability is a part of hinduism??


Chaturvarnaalu recent gaa vachinavaa. karnudi katha eppatidhi ? ekalavyudi katha eppatidhi ? itihaasaallo diguva jaathi ki chendina kontha mandi raajula ledha veerula ledha punya purushula perlu cheppandi
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Tifosi:

THere is no discovery as such. Everyone knew the vault was there and there was treasure...the only surprise is the jaw dropping amount it was valuated at.


eppatnunchi vundhi ee treasure alaaa? british and turaks endhuku vadilesaaru?
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Anand_n:

Hinduism did not have the resources to counter - but why is it that when resources do become available Hindus would rather have them sitting in a vault than use them to revitalize Hinduism ?




How does one become a hindu
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Ippudu open chesindi only one floor anta.

deeni krinda inka 3 more floors vunnaayi anta.

ante assuming those also have 6 each, it would be 24 rooms in total.
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I do not know what prompted you to say untouchability is a part of hinduism??
none of hindu books or gita endorse it ..
till 8th century ledu ani history books sebutunnayi
It was a bad practice started for some wrong reason just like sathee sahagamanam..
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//nuvvu kerla alludivi emaina sebuthav, maku avvadha? next 2-3 yrs lo india vachinappudu veltha, nuvve guide cheyali//

thappakunda. guide enti kerala entering to leaving antha choosukunta.

maakoka gudi vundhi . ee month end 1 week poojas vuntai. last 2 days family members andharu vellali. aaa gudi lo kattulu katar lu choosa last time. ee sari emANNA chinna nidi emanna vuntadhemo oka kanneyyali.
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Bhaiyya ne posts anni ekkado touch chestayeee... superrr...
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akkada oka german colony ne vundi. so many forigners live a very simple vedic life in that small town. i never expected it would be so special and refreshing.
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nuvvu kerla alludivi emaina sebuthav, maku avvadha? next 2-3 yrs lo india vachinappudu veltha, nuvve guide cheyali
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Diviseema:

meereppudaina vellara.



inka ledu annai .. :-(

Diviseema:

next day 121 prists, myself, friend , uncle and autny did athurudram. wanted to share photos oneday. its soooooooooo good. i really felt out of world for those 2 days.



super .. plz share the pics .. Arunachaleswarudi darsanam baga ayyindi ga .. nice ..
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kamalai last month ramana maharishi asramam ki vella , very good. thiruvannamalai gudi chuttoo 15 km walk barefoot is very refreshing. meereppudaina vellara.

next day 121 prists, myself, friend , uncle and autny did athurudram. wanted to share photos oneday. its soooooooooo good. i really felt out of world for those 2 days.
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these r like foundations of india. building penchalani foundation thavvi paina room esthe eetavvuddi. dont even think of touching it. padbhanabhan temple is my fav. temple.

proper way lo gaurd chesi appudappudu konni display pedithe chalu inko 1000 yrs just tourism perutho kotlu vasthai. and kerala rocks in tourism. i atleast went to some 100 temples in kerala. awesome anthe. chala rich ga paddathiga vuntai.
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Sanman:

lol mana sc st lu manake undaali. anta rani vaallu leni hinduism complete kaadhu



untouchability ni endorse chesi .. Hinduism complete avvadu ane vallu unte .. vallaki cheppu .. I dont practise untouchability .. and I believe what I express ..
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a bit of the character of the beautiful Hindu society goes away ..


lol mana sc st lu manake undaali. anta rani vaallu leni hinduism complete kaadhu
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Anand_n:

Why do Hindus have so little faith on their own dharma kartas being able to work honestly towards uplifting their fellow believers as compared to the church in their missionaries ? I find the responses here from the right-wingers who want to lock it all up very mindboggling



first thing .. Hindus are never in the game of numbers .. kakapothe when .. xian missionaries take away some poor sections of Hindu society .. the reason why right wingers protest is .. with loss of some sections of Hindu society .. a bit of the character of the beautiful Hindu society goes away .. rendering it incomplete ..


Anand_n:

Their modus operandi is very clear -offer services in the name of their God and bring people to their fold...



You have chosen to put it very very respectfully about the whole prosetylization .. first thing .. giving cycles, visas, college seats and sewing machines along with cash for people to convert is no longer "service" .. but complete business and is exchange of faith for material !!! The whole idea is to xian-ize the world so that they fulfil their dream of seeing a xian world without any diversity and scope for other faiths ! adi tappu ani ariche Hindus ni .. same path follow avvamanatam is deplorable !
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Day in and day out there are discussions about the missionary conversion machine that pumps money to meet their goals if proselytizing. Their modus operandi is very clear -offer services in the name of their God and bring people to their fold...




I guess hinduism does NOT believe in conversions ...
there were very few people who tried to campaign for the cause of spreading hinduism ... and they never indulged in conversion ...

missionaries spend money and convert in under developed countries .. in christian countries they dont spend a pie on the existing christians is what i believe ...
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Oka philosophical question -

Day in and day out there are discussions about the missionary conversion machine that pumps money to meet their goals if proselytizing. Their modus operandi is very clear -offer services in the name of their God and bring people to their fold...

Hinduism did not have the resources to counter - but why is it that when resources do become available Hindus would rather have them sitting in a vault than use them to revitalize Hinduism ?

Why do Hindus have so little faith on their own dharma kartas being able to work honestly towards uplifting their fellow believers as compared to the church in their missionaries ? I find the responses here from the right-wingers who want to lock it all up very mindboggling :-)
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Jodhaa:

yo, how u?



good good..how r u..india trips emayina ayyaya ee madya
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should go to the temple trust..

i don't think there is enough evidence to suggest that this is people's money (as in taxes paid to the king, they are apparently maintained in separate revenue accounts).. so i doubt the govt has any right over the treasures.. see the historical details of the temple revenues here:
http://blog.offstumped.in/2011/07/06/kerala-temple-wealth-de bate-a-backgrounder/

as for the temple trust, can they manage this much wealth is an open ques? can they do better than locking it all up again?

all this free education, free hospitals stuff are all euphemisms for wastage of resources.. anything free will never be efficient.. it'll only manage to fill the pockets of the crooks..
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Raman:

aa gold aa diamonds ki value kattakandi they are part of our culture , they are more important culturally .


daniki oka museum erpatu chesi vache dabbu dwara they can do charity .
they should not touch any of the property
Every year christian and other minority institutes get billions of rupees aalekkana valla daggarninchi kuda lagesukuntara?
Emi logic raa nayana..

Deenni karaginchi dabbu cheste andulo oka 10% kooda pejalaki cheradu


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Samarasimha:

but not advisable to wipe out the evidence of historical glory as acultural dcent we belong to as nation whole.

I strongly disagree to spend this money on poor or any other casue because we as a nation can't create such a history for next 1000 years.
Problem of eradicating poor is law makers job and is not at expense of our cultural glory.


I want to see this news to hit main headline in wall street journal to adress what Indians are once and our news media to introspect why that time we are so successful but not now.


well said brother.
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Raman:

aa gold aa diamonds ki value kattakandi they are part of our culture , they are more important culturally .


daniki oka museum erpatu chesi vache dabbu dwara they can do charity .
they should not touch any of the property
Every year christian and other minority institutes get billions of rupees aalekkana valla daggarninchi kuda lagesukuntara?
Emi logic raa nayana..

Deenni karaginchi dabbu cheste andulo oka 10% kooda pejalaki cheradu




perfect pt bro..temple anagane charity hospitals anni gurtochesthayi..already kotlaku kotlu dopidi ki guri avuthunayi temples ee politicians and govts chethulo..ee ancient treasure ni kooda takattu pedithe etla...
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Samarasimha:

May be your idealogy for the best interest for poor people education and uplifting them using this ancient treasue is good but not advisable to wipe out the evidence of historical glory as acultural dcent we belong to as nation whole.

I strongly disagree to spend this money on poor or any other casue because we as a nation can't create such a history for next 1000 years.
Problem of eradicating poor is law makers job and is not at expense of our cultural glory.


I want to see this news to hit main headline in wall street journal to adress what Indians are once and our news media to introspect why that time we are so successful but not now.



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temple premises lo museum petti andulo pettali..

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Samarasimha:

The fundamental aspect of aspiration be educated and need should be driven from lower end people,who is the end person reap those benefits




I disagree on this part :-) Everyone aspires for a better life that living on the streets - unfortunately not everyone has the means to reach towards those aspirations or even sees education as means to those aspirations..

People generally are not illiterate because they chose to be - it is because they did not have the opportunity as children- either because their parents could not afford or because they did not understand the value of education.Manapillalaki education value oka vayasu vache varaku ardham avvadu ani manam school manesi intlo kurchonivvamu kada :-)

Education is a basic right of every child...And I believe we as a country got here because we deprived multiple generations of children of education by making it so unaffordable.


Samarasimha:

This can happen through media and shaping better society again I deny to spend single penny from the temple treasure.
We can create poor people on fly if we don't feel responsibility let the democratic system find ways to what best needed for the poor.




Coming to the national treasure part - I can understand the status symbol, proof of ancient riches argument and that rare archaelogical finds should be preserved for posterity ..but if it is just Gold coins/bars I do not see the logic ...:-)

And illustrious institutions become part of heritage too, not just treasures :-)

I apply the same thought process to myself.Nenu personal ga bangaram konukkovatam manesi konni years ayyindi - cos I did not see the value of accumulating and letting it sit in a locker,wearing it once in a while - aa money evarikanna chaduvu chepinchataniki use chestunna..oka coin bangaraniki kontamandi lives and their future generations bagu padatayi ani...I believe that is how democratic society improves - wealth and knowledge grows when it moves:-)

So I guess its a matter of personal beliefs on what is important :-)
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May be your idealogy for the best interest for poor people education and uplifting them using this ancient treasue is good but not advisable to wipe out the evidence of historical glory as acultural dcent we belong to as nation whole.

I strongly disagree to spend this money on poor or any other casue because we as a nation can't create such a history for next 1000 years.
Problem of eradicating poor is law makers job and is not at expense of our cultural glory.


I want to see this news to hit main headline in wall street journal to adress what Indians are once and our news media to introspect why that time we are so successful but not now.



aa vastuvulani just exhibit cheste vache amount tho .. gudi adhvaryam lo karya kramalu cheste naaku ok .. kaani nee post lo konni points keka .. hats off !
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Anand_n:

Even the interest can generate more revenue if used to fund co-operatives along with education using the vocational school model...by adopting a village at a time :-) Ideas are plenty - implementation feasibility may be the challeng




When there are so many countries around us such as Japan,singapore are able to develop and get educated why not us? why we need a fund like this to motivate to adopt villages and create better life.

The fundamental aspect of aspiration be educated and need should be driven from lower end people,who is the end person reap those benefits.This can happen through media and shaping better society again I deny to spend single penny from the temple treasure.

We can create poor people on fly if we don't feel responsibility let the democratic system find ways to what best needed for the poor.
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Anand_n:

it would be great if the trust can use some of it to educate,train and feed the poor under the aegis of Padmanabhaswamy ...




May be your idealogy for the best interest for poor people education and uplifting them using this ancient treasue is good but not advisable to wipe out the evidence of historical glory as acultural dcent we belong to as nation whole.

I strongly disagree to spend this money on poor or any other casue because we as a nation can't create such a history for next 1000 years.
Problem of eradicating poor is law makers job and is not at expense of our cultural glory.


I want to see this news to hit main headline in wall street journal to adress what Indians are once and our news media to introspect why that time we are so successful but not now.
RajasaYOdha RajaSekhara JOHAR JOHAR !!
http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/anupam_mishra_the_ancient_ingenuity_of_water_harvesting.html
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Tifosi:

the only surprise is the jaw dropping amount it was valuated at.




Well in a way this could be called a discovery. something we didnot know.
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Tifosi:

Giving anyone the ability to spend "some" of it is going down a slippery slope. Just the precedence itself will justify these buggers to liquidate it all and once that starts there is always scope of corruption.




Agree:-)

I am not even thinking in terms of spending it - more like liquidating a portion of it to create a corpus fund. Then only use the interest on the corpus , leaving the actual corpus untouched.(Inflation will likely depreciate it but still not like spending it all)

Even the interest can generate more revenue if used to fund co-operatives along with education using the vocational school model...by adopting a village at a time :-) Ideas are plenty - implementation feasibility may be the challenge:-)
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pithaaaaa..after long long time...i agree with ekam babai
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aa gold aa diamonds ki value kattakandi they are part of our culture , they are more important culturally .


daniki oka museum erpatu chesi vache dabbu dwara they can do charity .
they should not touch any of the property
Every year christian and other minority institutes get billions of rupees aalekkana valla daggarninchi kuda lagesukuntara?
Emi logic raa nayana..

Deenni karaginchi dabbu cheste andulo oka 10% kooda pejalaki cheradu
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Amigo:




THere is no discovery as such. Everyone knew the vault was there and there was treasure...the only surprise is the jaw dropping amount it was valuated at.
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Anand_n:




Giving anyone the ability to spend "some" of it is going down a slippery slope. Just the precedence itself will justify these buggers to liquidate it all and once that starts there is always scope of corruption.


I still think its a national treasure and should be put on display in a museum.
Retaining it in the vault is like putting neon signs for theives to come steal.
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Amigo:

I agree it should be well spent. But my personal feeling is the amount is too high to be wisely spent by a few temple management folks. I would suggest a educated advisory group of the govt to decide on how to handle it.




I am thinking in the lines of mineral ores discovered. Who owns them? the district, the state or the central govt?
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Anand_n:

Agree - but hope they can find some better use than letting it all sit in a vault somewhere...

Kings stowed away treasures for use in dire times - it would be great if the trust can use some of it to educate,train and feed the poor under the aegis of Padmanabhaswamy ...

Kerala has originated and preserved many of the traditional skills and arts better than most of the country - time to spread that ancient knowledge again I would think




I agree it should be well spent. But my personal feeling is the amount is too high to be wisely spent by a few temple management folks. I would suggest a educated advisory group of the govt to decide on how to handle it.
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Anand_n:

Kings stowed away treasures for use in dire times - it would be great if the trust can use some of it to educate,train and feed the poor under the aegis of Padmanabhaswamy ...

Kerala has originated and preserved many of the traditional skills and arts better than most of the country - time to spread that ancient knowledge again I would think



perfect .. in the name of the Lord .. anyone can be benefitted ..

Tirupati lo SV University lo Muslims, Christians chaduvukovatleda? in the name of Lord Venkateswara? same model should work in Tiruvanantapuram ..
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Sanman:

naa chitti burraki temple trust ki tappa evariki chendakudadhu vaallu em chestaaru annadhi vaalla discretion ke vadileyali anipistundhi




Agree - but hope they can find some better use than letting it all sit in a vault somewhere...:-)

Kings stowed away treasures for use in dire times - it would be great if the trust can use some of it to educate,train and feed the poor under the aegis of Padmanabhaswamy ...

Kerala has originated and preserved many of the traditional skills and arts better than most of the country - time to spread that ancient knowledge again I would think :-)
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The kutumbikulu should decide... they built the temple... they were running the temple... and their ancestors have a reason to keep it there...
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he was being sarcastic



nope .. kurrod history telusu naaku .. u can check too ..
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Kamal:

hindus kollagottadam enti .. mental ekkinda?? pichi ga vaagithe vache use emi ledu ..


he was being sarcastic


Kamal:

so Lord Padmanabha, who is the owner of this wealth, will bear the wealth in future also, unless there is a new legal amendment to the law of the land ..


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Kdnumber1:




yenni thostav vuncle, nee asa ki anthu ledha, temples ni vadiley
RahulGandhi/JP/Chiru
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Idle_yzag:

manchi piligrim city ga thayaru cheyyali and shud provide veda schools, free hospital, free food, etc etc




vuncle contract ippistavaa, 10 paisal commsion ista.
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it shud be something like TTD, high class ga temple ni modify chesi, manchi piligrim city ga thayaru cheyyali and shud provide veda schools, free hospital, free food, etc etc
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heyy inthakii ee padmanabham kurrod olu? intha dabbu ettaa enakesaad
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legal opinion chepta first naaku telisindi .. Hindu temples lo vigrahalaki .. prana pratishta ani chestaru .. and so temples are different from mosques or churches .. and constitution has clearly recognised this .. 1990 lo after several court rulings and amendments .. Hindu deities can have properties on their name ani kuda establish aipoyindi .. so Lord Padmanabha, who is the owner of this wealth, will bear the wealth in future also, unless there is a new legal amendment to the law of the land ..

ika logical ga chusthe kuda .. the wealth was donation of people and the kings to the Lord presiding the kingdom, dharma karyalaki use cheyyandi ani temple ki icharu .. anduke temple trust ni dharma kartalu antamu ippatiki kuda .. avi valla aadhenam lo ne undaali ..

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Hindus kollagottina sommantha bayata teesi minority welfare ki spend cheyyaali.



hindus kollagottadam enti .. mental ekkinda?? pichi ga vaagithe vache use emi ledu ..
A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.
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keep where it is now where it belongs to and get on with our lives including state/central govt, courts, etc.

Lord Vishnu is supreme God, please dont mess up with him, he will leave you nothing.
Om Namah Shivaya.....Om Namo Narayanaaaya....
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naaaku chendali
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Sanman:

alaage itlanti matters lo legal gaa evariki chendaalo teliste kuda cheppandi





According to Indian Law, The presiding deity of a hindu temple is also a person. He or She can can buy sell and aquire assets which can then be managed by a trust.
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best reserve bank lo pettadam..aa vaddi dabbulu use cheyyandi temple meedha...
ledhu ante nagalu anni musuem lo pettandi , tourism develop cheyyandi...govt ki icchi aa dabbulu govt chetha spend cheyyisthe head shaving avuthundhi total ga
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Undertaker:

Hindus kollagottina sommantha bayata teesi minority welfare ki spend cheyyaali.


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Samarasimha:

.Its the glory of Lord Padhmanabha so it should be there forever representing the message for next generations as a musuem asset


completely agree.

Nippu:

1) if you are a citizen of india and have atleast 10 percent trust on present system or consitution or judicial system. it should go to govt .


I am a citizen of india and I dont even have 0.00001% trust on present system. Treasure vallaki velthey avi bayata countries ki ammi, cash swiss banks ki pothadhi.asalu govt ki iyyaalsina avasaram ledhu.
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Sanman:

padmanabha swami aalayam treasure rightful gaa evariki chendaali ?
mee personal wish kaakunda konchem logical gaa cheppandi
alaage itlanti matters lo legal gaa evariki chendaalo teliste kuda cheppandi
naa chitti burraki temple trust ki tappa evariki chendakudadhu vaallu em chestaaru annadhi vaalla discretion ke vadileyali anipistundhi


Mottam tirupati shift cheyinchandi. Antha adikesavulu choosu kuntadu.
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Hindus kollagottina sommantha bayata teesi minority welfare ki spend cheyyaali.
Evadu laagi petti kodithe, state lo pratipaksham nidralesi panichestundo aade JAGAN.
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legal gha ayithe govt ki anukunta chedalsindhi.
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1) if you are a citizen of india and have atleast 10 percent trust on present system or consitution or judicial system. it should go to govt .


if you dont believe at all the above things . trust ki ivvali .

its upto you .

i still believe the above all .
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yevadi ko chendhadam emi ti Katthi aka Papi ..Its the glory of Lord Padhmanabha so it should be there forever representing the message for next generations as a musuem asset
RajasaYOdha RajaSekhara JOHAR JOHAR !!
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padmanabha swami aalayam treasure rightful gaa evariki chendaali ?
mee personal wish kaakunda konchem logical gaa cheppandi
alaage itlanti matters lo legal gaa evariki chendaalo teliste kuda cheppandi
naa chitti burraki temple trust ki tappa evariki chendakudadhu vaallu em chestaaru annadhi vaalla discretion ke vadileyali anipistundhi
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