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Posted on Wednesday, March 27, 2019 - 04:52 pm:       

Sixth over of Kings XI's innings, Uthappa fielded the ball at cover, and the Kings XI batsman took a run. But then, when it was fairly clear that the ball was dead (the batsmen were not alive to the possibility of another run, and the fielders were merely passing the ball back to the bowler for the next ball), Uthappa lobbed the ball to Russell at mid-off, who lost it in the floodlights, and ducked, leaving the ball to skip away to the boundary.

Ashwin was out of his seat in the dugout straight away, marching to the fourth umpire, making an impassioned case that four overthrows had been conceded. Incredibly, the fourth umpire agreed. He radioed his on-field colleagues, alerted them to Ashwin's complaints, after which the standing umpire signaled four runs. The ball wasn't dead after all.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, March 27, 2019 - 02:49 pm:       


Khaleja:

bokkale. ball veyyakunda vaadu legethukupothe adi valid run aa? ala vellipoyi gelisthe adi ethical aa? ila oka 4, 5 times chesthe evadu parigethadu munde.




Valid point. If the batsmen is outside the crease when the ball is delivered any runs taken should be deducted. if not, remove the taboo that it is unethical to 'mankad' someone.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 08:43 pm:       


Mental_sachinodu:

ikkada jarigindhi adhe vunkl.. Sehwag actually gave up the appeal once against SL .. i remember the bowler was Ashwin, and in that case the batsmen was already warned, and the batsmen still got caught. Even then Sehwag withdrew the appeal, and let the batsmen stay.




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Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 07:47 pm:       


Khaleja:

bokkale. ball veyyakunda vaadu legethukupothe adi valid run aa? ala vellipoyi gelisthe adi ethical aa? ila oka 4, 5 times chesthe evadu parigethadu munde.




asalu eecaselo butler gadu not at all running..ashwin ball realeasew cheyalsina time ki he was inside the crease...ashwin action stop chesi venakki thrigi stumps ni kottepudu he went out....
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 07:07 pm:       

bokkale. ball veyyakunda vaadu legethukupothe adi valid run aa? ala vellipoyi gelisthe adi ethical aa? ila oka 4, 5 times chesthe evadu parigethadu munde.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 12:55 pm:       


Musafir:

https://twitter.com/TheJoshya/status/1110403431364263936
See this tweet. Butler stepped out prior to the ball being released. May be, slow down in judging Ashwin and think about the law for a change.




that actually makes it worse :D .. everytime Ashwin does not runout a batsmen for that margin of being "out of" crease, we can blame ashwin being in cahoots with that batsmend :D
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 12:54 pm:       


Mental_sachinodu:

in my opinion it should just be counted like an invalid run, similar to how a batsmen loses the run, when he does not cross the crease while going for a single or double. its not much different.




Then there has to be some new technology to monitor every ball. Also it becomes boring this way... instead if u have bowler and batting fight for it, it will add one more interesting feature to cricket like baseball.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 12:48 pm:       

https://twitter.com/TheJoshya/status/1110403431364263936
See this tweet. Butler stepped out prior to the ball being released. May be, slow down in judging Ashwin and think about the law for a change.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 12:44 pm:       


Confused:

How about giving a penalty of 5 runs to batting team instead of giving batsman out.



in my opinion it should just be counted like an invalid run, similar to how a batsmen loses the run, when he does not cross the crease while going for a single or double. its not much different.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 12:42 pm:       

How about giving a penalty of 5 runs to batting team instead of giving batsman out.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 12:41 pm:       


Ringo_rangaswamy:

In 1987 world cup ( i think), courtney walsh let pakistani runner get away and west indies went out of world cup. Pakistan would have last the game as it was the last wicket. But is that sportsman ship from Walsh. I dont think so.




like i said, everone has their opinion about it. there is a reason its controversial. not all bowlers share the same opinion on it. Walsh would not agree with you, its his choice.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 12:33 pm:       


Mental_sachinodu:

Same goes with batsmen, a batsmen can walk away from the stumps right before the ball is delivered, and call for a no ball, and it is within rules. but if a batsmen says, its part of rules, where does the spirit comes in to play? it looks ridiculous.






May be time to redefine the rules.


Why blame players?



I know the difference between the spirit of the play and the legal aspects that wont always cover everything.


It is batsmans responsibility to determine whether the ball is released or not.


In 1987 world cup ( i think), courtney walsh let pakistani runner get away and west indies went out of world cup. Pakistan would have last the game as it was the last wicket. But is that sportsman ship from Walsh. I dont think so.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 12:00 pm:       


Ringo_rangaswamy:


Wide balls
No balls
1-tup catches
catches while touching boundary lines


Inka enni question chestaam.


Crease lopala undatam batsman responsibility. Vaadu thurruna elthe, out chestaaru. Batsman ball release ayyinda ledaa choodakunda velthe own risk.




All rules are against the wrong doing, but there are situations where player 's spirit comes into play.

technically, a bowler can run in and stop before releasing the ball. this is allowed as per rules.. but if a bowler does it 10 times an over, it still under rules, but distracts the batsmen is seen as not within the spirit of the play.

Same goes with batsmen, a batsmen can walk away from the stumps right before the ball is delivered, and call for a no ball, and it is within rules. but if a batsmen says, its part of rules, where does the spirit comes in to play? it looks ridiculous.

Most players, do not take advantage of such things, although a few bend then every now and then. Thats why Mankading is always controversial. because most batsmen are really going through the motion, they just walk along the bowler, and it is rarely to gain an advantage. if the bowler thinks, the batsmen is taking an advantage, he can clear it with the player. its just a decent thing to do.

Again, not saying its bowler's responsibility to let the batsmen know.

The same goes with blocking a runner. its not against the rules to block a runner when is trying to reach the crease. but would most players do it?
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 11:42 am:       


Rajusk:

3rd umpire goof ups even with DRS soosthunnam kada rao garu.

let's not hide behind 3rd umpire for this one..





Ilaa aithey every rule is questionable kadaa.


Wide balls
No balls
1-tup catches
catches while touching boundary lines


Inka enni question chestaam.


Crease lopala undatam batsman responsibility. Vaadu thurruna elthe, out chestaaru. Batsman ball release ayyinda ledaa choodakunda velthe own risk.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 10:59 am:       

Pant is looking like a million bucks. Evvaru dishti pettakandi.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 10:40 am:       


Ringo_rangaswamy:

3rd umpire out ichaadu antay legal




3rd umpire goof ups even with DRS soosthunnam kada rao garu.

let's not hide behind 3rd umpire for this one..

maa league lo kooda chepparu..last year nunchi..no warning required..eseyyochu ani...
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 10:28 am:       


Rajusk:

BUT he stopped and waited for Butler to go out. That's unsportsmanlike.





3rd umpire out ichaadu antay legal. Inka aagadu ani enti discussion? Aagatam thappaithey, not out ivvaali.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 10:25 am:       


Rajusk:

Once bowler starts run up..at a given speed of stride, you would expect it would continue..(just giving benefit of doubt to Butler anthe) and ball gets delivered..




ikkada jarigindhi adhe vunkl.. Sehwag actually gave up the appeal once against SL .. i remember the bowler was Ashwin, and in that case the batsmen was already warned, and the batsmen still got caught. Even then Sehwag withdrew the appeal, and let the batsmen stay.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 10:22 am:       

Ashwin offlate has been displaying some traits that are a bit ... "I have an axe to grind" attitude.. i think his omission in multiple formats in team India is rubbing him the wrong ways.

in this instance - Apparently there was pre-season call to discuss exactly this, by team captains, and it was agreed upon that there wont be mankading in IPL. IPL clearly broke the agreement - also the play was very doubtful. batsmen being out of the crease is not a violation.

Anyway - its a crazy rule. all other rules are enforced by umpires, while this particular rule is sort of enforced by bowlers, and each bowler has his opinion on this.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 10:10 am:       


Musafir:

Butler isn't looking at Ashwin. There is no way he knows if he is moving before or after a ball is released.




Once bowler starts run up..at a given speed of stride, you would expect it would continue..(just giving benefit of doubt to Butler anthe) and ball gets delivered..
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 10:07 am:       

Meanwhile, Dhawan is playing blindfolded. Guddi oopudu endira rey pich nayala... World cup lo aadalsinodivi.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 10:05 am:       


Rajusk:

adi matter..anduke kummuthunnar



Aren't they missing a point? Butler isn't looking at Ashwin. There is no way he knows if he is moving before or after a ball is released.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 10:03 am:       


Ringo_rangaswamy:

Competitive level lo out kaakunda chooskotam batsman responsibility. Wicket keeper batsman ki stumping chestaa nuvvu outside crease velli batting chestunnaavu ani cheppadu kadhaa.



Vipersting:

BUT he stopped and waited for Butler to go out. That's unsportsmanlike.




adi matter..anduke kummuthunnar :D
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 09:51 am:       


Bharat:

Butler was not trying to gain unfair advantage



How do you know? He wasn't even looking at the bowler.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 09:33 am:       

mmm..debatable.....

but lines are there for a reason......a great striker always want to be on strike....and a lead before the delivery is bowled...rotates the strike a bit easier....

agree with the warning......but.....bowlers and batsman giving warning to each other.....is not the way.....rules are set.....

If bowler is penalised....for inch long.....batsman should be penalised for inch short.....

still avoidable....
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Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 09:32 am:       

Butler was not trying to gain unfair advantage.....he waited until the baller was in his stride......bad decision by Ashwin
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 09:32 am:       

Warning is not at all needed guys. Rule book also removed it. Spirit of the game ani topic divert avutundi.

If Butler was really out of his crease at the time of delivery, Ashwin would've been totally correct in what he did. BUT he stopped and waited for Butler to go out. That's unsportsmanlike.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 09:29 am:       


Musafir:





50 yard boundaries
free hit
one bouncer per over
2 power plays in 20 overs
fielder restrictions outside the circle


Too much disrespect to bowlers and and cricket converted to circus show. Natural ga Ashwin as bowler/captain explored his options with in legal limit. Perfect.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 09:27 am:       


Ringo_rangaswamy:

Ashiwin gaadu manchi pani chesadu.



I think he should keep doing this every game until the law changes or says it is acceptable. Stop this harakiri once and for all.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 09:18 am:       


Rajusk:

Warning is a courtesy rao garu anthe..

giving benefit of doubt..to feeful who inadvertently walk out..





Competitive level lo out kaakunda chooskotam batsman responsibility. Wicket keeper batsman ki stumping chestaa nuvvu outside crease velli batting chestunnaavu ani cheppadu kadhaa.


Suppose aa batsman comes out of crease in the last of of the world cup champion ship when batting team needs 1 run. So single kotti championship kavali ani runner mundhey raavatam unfair kadhaa.


Game is played by rules. Sportsmanship can be appreciated but cannot be demanded.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 08:39 am:       


Atta_boy:

Let's say ashwin mankaded without stopping action abd did it right away.... appud then why warning needed?...



Ringo_rangaswamy:

What is yourr reason for giving a warning?




Warning is a courtesy rao garu anthe..

giving benefit of doubt..to feeful who inadvertently walk out..

anduke anna serial offender aithe..warning ichi ..then will go for it ani..
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 08:38 am:       

Very unsportsman like by Ashwin.

No warning
Very deliberate

Ofcourse by rules it is out if the bowler appeals. Captain revert cheyyali ethically. Kaani ikkada chesindi edava captain
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 08:25 am:       

Raaju saab... third umpire messed up.. alright..

Let's say ashwin mankaded without stopping action abd did it right away.... appud then why warning needed?... yee lekanna this ball will spin ani kuda warning ivvalna batsmen ki..
I think once you control the man inside of you, the one across from you doesn't really matter.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 08:12 am:       


Rajusk:





What is yourr reason for giving a warning?
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 08:07 am:       


Ringo_rangaswamy:

Asalu itlaa out cheyyatM game spirit ki against ani start chesi a yedhava evado!




As a bowler myself..I would at least warn the batsman..

That is my way of dealing with regular offenders
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 07:56 am:       

Asalu itlaa out cheyyatM game spirit ki against ani start chesi a yedhava evado!

Batsman alert ga undaali. Vaadu lagethukuntoo poyi single theeste count ainappudu, same batsman start lo careful ga the undaali.


Ashiwin gaadu manchi pani chesadu.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 12:49 am:       

i support Ashwin and all YCP fans would also support it
Hardcore Prabhas raju fan
 

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Posted on Monday, March 25, 2019 - 10:42 pm:       


Sachin:

ethics and all pakkana pettinaaa, 3rd umpire did blunder. that was not out....


3rd umpire role emi ledu batsmen bayata unda lopata unda anthe
 

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Posted on Monday, March 25, 2019 - 10:17 pm:       

ethics and all pakkana pettinaaa, 3rd umpire did blunder. that was not out....
 

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Posted on Monday, March 25, 2019 - 10:04 pm:       

Ocean 7 batsmen Ki levva stumping outs run outs maree sebutavu. Fast bowler at140 Oka adugu munduku vachi beamer este ettauntado telsa?.
Batsmen has advantage anuko in general but ..
Aswin gadu chesindi edavapani Daniki rules Ni lagadam tappy
 

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Posted on Monday, March 25, 2019 - 09:57 pm:       

correct/ethical ani cheppanu kaanee, paapam bowlers ball vesthey, line entha dhaataadu ani check cheyyatam, edho crime chesinattu next ball free hit anatam, edho sadism lekka vundhi

chethi lo nundi ball release avvakamundhey batsman geetha dhaatithey aah ball ki no run ani kooda pettaali, and next ball entha kottinaa zero runs ani pettaali

too much harsh rules vunnai bowlers ki
 

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Posted on Monday, March 25, 2019 - 09:36 pm:       

Kapil Dev did the same thing with Peter Kristen back in 1992...but before doing this he reported this to the umpire 3 times and umpire warned the batsmen he is going out of crease...and finally fourth time he did mankading...and it was done in a proper way on the way he was releasing the ball..Ashwin asalu warning kooda ivvakundaa chesunte its not fair...

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Posted on Monday, March 25, 2019 - 09:33 pm:       


Dhonifan:



emi chesadu
 

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Posted on Monday, March 25, 2019 - 09:28 pm:       

Papam family ni target chestunnaru insta lo. Useless fellows
Cheater's daughter, cheater's wife anukuntu. Disgusting social media warriors.
 

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Posted on Monday, March 25, 2019 - 09:18 pm:       


Musafir:

Johnty Rhodes to worst argument. Joke edi serious edi telidu metta gadiki.


adaithey disgusting
 

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Posted on Monday, March 25, 2019 - 09:16 pm:       

Johnty Rhodes to worst argument. Joke edi serious edi telidu metta gadiki.
But aa runout vishayam lo third umpire made a mistake and the law needs to be changed.
 

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Posted on Monday, March 25, 2019 - 09:10 pm:       

ee Ashwin gadu too worst ..monnativarku off field, twitter lo too bad behaviour ippudu on field kuda
Ee Sala Cup Namde
 

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Posted on Monday, March 25, 2019 - 09:07 pm:       


Rbreddy:

It was out as per the rules.


even as per rules it was not out. see the rule I have posted in first post
 

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Posted on Monday, March 25, 2019 - 09:06 pm:       

Lisa Sthalekar
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Hereâs my 2 cents worth on THE run out. Should have been called dead ball cause at the point of release â¬ï¸ Buttler is in, but Ashwin waits until his momentum of âbacking upâ takes him out of the crease.
 

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Posted on Monday, March 25, 2019 - 07:42 pm:       

It was out as per the rules. But was it ethical? Debatable
 

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Posted on Monday, March 25, 2019 - 03:39 pm:       

Poor strategy from Ashwin and a Blunder from the 3rd umpire to give it out.
 

Dhonifan
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Posted on Monday, March 25, 2019 - 03:09 pm:       

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ashwin ga, when you stopped your bowling action, butler was not even out of the crease. its not even within the rules. 3rd umpire should have caught it.

it is out only if he is out of the exprease by the time ball is expected to bowl. ball was expected to bowl when he was in the crease, but ashwin withdrew from the action. at that time jos was in the crease

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