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Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 01:29 pm:       


Kindal:

Why didn't conversion from one Caste to another Caste happening





As per Manu dharmam and earliest vedas, caste are not assigned by birth but by the dharmam each individual follows....but once varnashramam lo higher stages lo vunnavaallu redefined it as karma and "inheritance" by birth and never allowed lower caste to reach higher....

And the lower varna people waited and waited, till they found a better option and hence the "conversions" came into picture,,,,again, Hindu to Islam conversion is very difficult as its a closed gates religion unlike Christianity and Buddhism....
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Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 01:27 pm:       


Kindal:

then y are we so much emotional and attached towards caste/religion?




Nenu caste ki attached kaadu brother. Naku thelisina vishyam chebuthunnaanu.
Paiga 'vedas permit chesthunnaayi" ani chebuthunnaavu. naku theliyadu. Nenu vedam chaduvukoledu. Saakshaathu Aadi sankarulu petitna sankra peettam adhipathi cheppin avishyam chebuthunnaanu. Aayanaku vedam theliyakunda vundadu kadaa??
 

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Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 01:24 pm:       


Kindal:

then y are we so much emotional and attached towards caste/religion?


Not just for Caste and Religion, People are so much attached to everything (if they have to feel). For example, film personalities, Politicians, even pets, etc.,

It depends upon Individuals. Dont generalise.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 01:23 pm:       


Kalikaalam:



bro Vedas said it is acceptable in a society if one converts from one Varna to another, then why is there such a restriction on Castes(while caste is a subset of Varna)
For in India, Bhakti or what may be called the path of devotion or hero-worship, plays a part in its politics unequalled in magnitude by the part it plays in the politics of any other country in the world. Bhakti in religion may be a road to the salvation of the soul. But in politics, Bhakti or hero-worship is a sure road to degradation and to eventual dictatorship.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 01:21 pm:       

then y are we so much emotional and attached towards caste/religion?

Just bcoz few centuries ago a society decided to follow Caste and our fathers decided to follow it, should we give a damn to this tradition?

caste maaraka poyina inter-caste proposal vastee edoo thappu chesinattu society ee families ni chustadi enduku?
For in India, Bhakti or what may be called the path of devotion or hero-worship, plays a part in its politics unequalled in magnitude by the part it plays in the politics of any other country in the world. Bhakti in religion may be a road to the salvation of the soul. But in politics, Bhakti or hero-worship is a sure road to degradation and to eventual dictatorship.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 01:21 pm:       


Kindal:

Kulam anedi Vrutthi valla vachina identity. ippudu ikkada IT jobs chese vallandaridi oka Kulam, no?




Kaadu . other way. Puttuka ni batti kulam vachindi. yi point thone confuse avuthunnaavu. Nuvvu ye kulam lo pudithe, aa kulam continue avuthundi ..rest of your life. indaake cheppaanu. oka kamma vyakthi gudi lo pujalu chesinatha maatraana Brahmin avvadu. sudhrudu maatrame avuthaadu.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 01:18 pm:       


Kindal:

Annai, Vedas lo certification courses unnai.




Again, ivi anni yi madhya vahcina pilli, pithiri swamy lu pettinavi ayi vuntaayi. TDP laati vaatillo, vedam nerchukovalaanna first 'Brahmin' ayi vundaali.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 01:17 pm:       


Kindal:

ippudu ikkada IT jobs chese vallandaridi oka Kulam, no?


you are missing one point, Castes has Social acceptance / agreements. If you start IT Kulam and people accepts it, then it will become one of the caste maybe after few generations. But People has to stand on the stand of IT Kulam. You need to frame rules and regulations what "IT Kulam" is all about.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 01:14 pm:       


Kalikaalam:


Who will give u certiifcate that you learned Vedas from?? Vedas anevi university text books kaadu kadaa??

Niku gudi lo pujalu chesukovalankonte chesuko..Konni chotla cheyynistaaru. kaani nuvvu Brahmin vi kaalevu. vruthi kaavalante maarchuko.



Annai, Vedas lo certification courses unnai.

Kulam anedi Vrutthi valla vachina identity. ippudu ikkada IT jobs chese vallandaridi oka Kulam, no?
For in India, Bhakti or what may be called the path of devotion or hero-worship, plays a part in its politics unequalled in magnitude by the part it plays in the politics of any other country in the world. Bhakti in religion may be a road to the salvation of the soul. But in politics, Bhakti or hero-worship is a sure road to degradation and to eventual dictatorship.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 01:13 pm:       


Kindal:

If I am interested in Vedas I will learn them through books, by enrolling in course and I even can get a certificate. If I build a temple and practice all that Bramhin priests do in temple, then I still would not be accepted as Brahmin and people will call me non-Bramhin priest.


You are wrong.

Brahminism is not a caste, its a process.

Caste is all about "What you do", not "What you are"

Kalakremena meaning maarchi people started taking it to hearts.

Brahmins intlo puttinantha maatrana brahmin ayyipodu, he will become a brahmin when he starts practising / follow prceedures.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 01:10 pm:       

epudu ikada evaru caste marpidi ki ready ga unaru??
 

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Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 01:10 pm:       


Kindal:

I even can get a certificate




Who will give u certiifcate that you learned Vedas from?? Vedas anevi university text books kaadu kadaa??

Niku gudi lo pujalu chesukovalankonte chesuko..Konni chotla cheyynistaaru. kaani nuvvu Brahmin vi kaalevu. vruthi kaavalante maarchuko.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 01:09 pm:       

I read some where that Vedas allow conversion from one Varna to another.
While different castes form a Varna, why not Caste to Caste conversion possible?
For in India, Bhakti or what may be called the path of devotion or hero-worship, plays a part in its politics unequalled in magnitude by the part it plays in the politics of any other country in the world. Bhakti in religion may be a road to the salvation of the soul. But in politics, Bhakti or hero-worship is a sure road to degradation and to eventual dictatorship.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 01:09 pm:       

kulam swadharmam nunchi puttindi..

swadharme nidhanam sreyaha..para dharmo bhayavaha annaru..so mararu a to b
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Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 01:07 pm:       

Summary: Hindu point of view lo, 'any kind of conversion' anedi kudaradu. Nuvvu ye sect lo puttaavo, yi janma ku anthe.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 01:06 pm:       


Suyodhan:

It does happens.

For example, Brahmins who dont follow daily course of Practice are not brahmins any more.



If thats the case, then all YKP supporters in our state should openly admit that JKJ is x'ian.

Why cant one convert from one lower caste to another, upper to lower, lower to upper etc? If I am interested in Vedas I will learn them through books, by enrolling in course and I even can get a certificate. If I build a temple and practice all that Bramhin priests do in temple, then I still would not be accepted as Brahmin and people will call me non-Bramhin priest.

What the hell is this?
For in India, Bhakti or what may be called the path of devotion or hero-worship, plays a part in its politics unequalled in magnitude by the part it plays in the politics of any other country in the world. Bhakti in religion may be a road to the salvation of the soul. But in politics, Bhakti or hero-worship is a sure road to degradation and to eventual dictatorship.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 01:04 pm:       


Diviseema:

kelapothe asalu caste ne raddu cheyyochhu.



Kudaradu. oka saari Hinduvu ga aputtinaaka, caste ni radhu cheyyadma anedi kudaa vundadu.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 01:03 pm:       


Kindal:

While conversion from one religion to another is legal, socially accepted practice and Constitutionally backed, why can't one convert from one caste to another?




Idi kudaa mana matham(Hindu) lo ledu. 'conversion to Hindu religion' anedi ledu.Puttukatho vahcinde matham ayina, kulam ayina kuda. Vere religon vallu maarchukontaaru kaani, mana matham loki conversion anedi saasthram lo ledu. Sringeri Peettaadhipathi 'chandrasekharendra swaraswathi' clear gaa cheppaaru yi vishyam. Yi madhya vachina pilli pithiri swamy lu modalettaaru 're-conversion'..thokka tholu ani..adi anthaa saashtra virudham.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 01:02 pm:       

kindal thammudu appudu reservations misuse avuthai. andhuke not allowed. kelapothe asalu caste ne raddu cheyyochhu.
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Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 01:02 pm:       

>>Why didn't conversion from one Caste to another Caste happening?

In general it may not happen as Cate doesn't have its own god.

It can first start in DB..DB lo castes gods /reps unnaru..atleast it is felt that way

K- Ntr
Kap - Chiru
B - SPB/Vissu
R - YSR/Jagan/Sharmilla

etc etc

Der kurrod konnalu temporary K status pondadu when he supported Jr ntr and made comments on chiru..malla edo oka scenario lo Ks vissu ni ante kurrod return of the dragon anandu..

so it happens in db
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Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 01:01 pm:       


Kindal:

Why didn't conversion from one Caste to another Caste happening?


It does happens.

For example, Brahmins who dont follow daily course of Practice are not brahmins any more.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 01:00 pm:       


Kindal:

Why didn't conversion from one Caste to another Caste happening?




why not . marry other cast girl/boy and change to her/his cast
 

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Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 12:57 pm:       


Kindal:

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While conversion from one religion to another is legal, socially accepted practice and Constitutionally backed, why can't one convert from one caste to another?

Why didn't conversion from one Caste to another Caste happening?
For in India, Bhakti or what may be called the path of devotion or hero-worship, plays a part in its politics unequalled in magnitude by the part it plays in the politics of any other country in the world. Bhakti in religion may be a road to the salvation of the soul. But in politics, Bhakti or hero-worship is a sure road to degradation and to eventual dictatorship.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 12:55 pm:       


Kindal:

Calling Religion and Caste Experts



calling Sachin ante saripoyedhi kada
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Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 12:53 pm:       

tittava?
 

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Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 12:49 pm:       

మనుషులు మతాలు మారడంలో తప్పు లేనప్పుడు, మత మార్పిడిని రాజ్యాంగం ఆమోదించినప్పుడు ఒక కులం నుంచి ఉంకో కులానికి ఒక మనిషి ఎందుకు మార కూడదు?
For in India, Bhakti or what may be called the path of devotion or hero-worship, plays a part in its politics unequalled in magnitude by the part it plays in the politics of any other country in the world. Bhakti in religion may be a road to the salvation of the soul. But in politics, Bhakti or hero-worship is a sure road to degradation and to eventual dictatorship.

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