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Havingfun
Comedian Username: Havingfun
Post Number: 1207 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 94.193.127.37
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 01:29 pm: |
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Kindal:Why didn't conversion from one Caste to another Caste happening
As per Manu dharmam and earliest vedas, caste are not assigned by birth but by the dharmam each individual follows....but once varnashramam lo higher stages lo vunnavaallu redefined it as karma and "inheritance" by birth and never allowed lower caste to reach higher.... And the lower varna people waited and waited, till they found a better option and hence the "conversions" came into picture,,,,again, Hindu to Islam conversion is very difficult as its a closed gates religion unlike Christianity and Buddhism.... ________________________________________________ "No one dies virgin here, life fcuks everyone" |
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Kalikaalam
Side Hero Username: Kalikaalam
Post Number: 6677 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 171.159.64.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 01:27 pm: |
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Kindal:then y are we so much emotional and attached towards caste/religion?
Nenu caste ki attached kaadu brother. Naku thelisina vishyam chebuthunnaanu. Paiga 'vedas permit chesthunnaayi" ani chebuthunnaavu. naku theliyadu. Nenu vedam chaduvukoledu. Saakshaathu Aadi sankarulu petitna sankra peettam adhipathi cheppin avishyam chebuthunnaanu. Aayanaku vedam theliyakunda vundadu kadaa?? |
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Suyodhan
Junior Artist Username: Suyodhan
Post Number: 102 Registered: 01-2013 Posted From: 69.174.87.92
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 01:24 pm: |
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Kindal:then y are we so much emotional and attached towards caste/religion?
Not just for Caste and Religion, People are so much attached to everything (if they have to feel). For example, film personalities, Politicians, even pets, etc., It depends upon Individuals. Dont generalise. |
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Kindal
Side Hero Username: Kindal
Post Number: 2009 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 106.51.126.211
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 01:23 pm: |
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Kalikaalam:
bro Vedas said it is acceptable in a society if one converts from one Varna to another, then why is there such a restriction on Castes(while caste is a subset of Varna) For in India, Bhakti or what may be called the path of devotion or hero-worship, plays a part in its politics unequalled in magnitude by the part it plays in the politics of any other country in the world. Bhakti in religion may be a road to the salvation of the soul. But in politics, Bhakti or hero-worship is a sure road to degradation and to eventual dictatorship. |
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Kindal
Side Hero Username: Kindal
Post Number: 2008 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 106.51.126.211
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 01:21 pm: |
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then y are we so much emotional and attached towards caste/religion? Just bcoz few centuries ago a society decided to follow Caste and our fathers decided to follow it, should we give a damn to this tradition? caste maaraka poyina inter-caste proposal vastee edoo thappu chesinattu society ee families ni chustadi enduku? For in India, Bhakti or what may be called the path of devotion or hero-worship, plays a part in its politics unequalled in magnitude by the part it plays in the politics of any other country in the world. Bhakti in religion may be a road to the salvation of the soul. But in politics, Bhakti or hero-worship is a sure road to degradation and to eventual dictatorship. |
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Kalikaalam
Side Hero Username: Kalikaalam
Post Number: 6676 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 171.159.64.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 01:21 pm: |
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Kindal:Kulam anedi Vrutthi valla vachina identity. ippudu ikkada IT jobs chese vallandaridi oka Kulam, no?
Kaadu . other way. Puttuka ni batti kulam vachindi. yi point thone confuse avuthunnaavu. Nuvvu ye kulam lo pudithe, aa kulam continue avuthundi ..rest of your life. indaake cheppaanu. oka kamma vyakthi gudi lo pujalu chesinatha maatraana Brahmin avvadu. sudhrudu maatrame avuthaadu. |
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Kalikaalam
Side Hero Username: Kalikaalam
Post Number: 6675 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 171.159.64.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 01:18 pm: |
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Kindal:Annai, Vedas lo certification courses unnai.
Again, ivi anni yi madhya vahcina pilli, pithiri swamy lu pettinavi ayi vuntaayi. TDP laati vaatillo, vedam nerchukovalaanna first 'Brahmin' ayi vundaali. |
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Suyodhan
Junior Artist Username: Suyodhan
Post Number: 101 Registered: 01-2013 Posted From: 69.174.87.92
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 01:17 pm: |
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Kindal:ippudu ikkada IT jobs chese vallandaridi oka Kulam, no?
you are missing one point, Castes has Social acceptance / agreements. If you start IT Kulam and people accepts it, then it will become one of the caste maybe after few generations. But People has to stand on the stand of IT Kulam. You need to frame rules and regulations what "IT Kulam" is all about. |
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Kindal
Side Hero Username: Kindal
Post Number: 2007 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 106.51.126.211
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 01:14 pm: |
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Kalikaalam: Who will give u certiifcate that you learned Vedas from?? Vedas anevi university text books kaadu kadaa?? Niku gudi lo pujalu chesukovalankonte chesuko..Konni chotla cheyynistaaru. kaani nuvvu Brahmin vi kaalevu. vruthi kaavalante maarchuko.
Annai, Vedas lo certification courses unnai. Kulam anedi Vrutthi valla vachina identity. ippudu ikkada IT jobs chese vallandaridi oka Kulam, no? For in India, Bhakti or what may be called the path of devotion or hero-worship, plays a part in its politics unequalled in magnitude by the part it plays in the politics of any other country in the world. Bhakti in religion may be a road to the salvation of the soul. But in politics, Bhakti or hero-worship is a sure road to degradation and to eventual dictatorship. |
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Suyodhan
Junior Artist Username: Suyodhan
Post Number: 100 Registered: 01-2013 Posted From: 69.174.87.92
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 01:13 pm: |
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Kindal:If I am interested in Vedas I will learn them through books, by enrolling in course and I even can get a certificate. If I build a temple and practice all that Bramhin priests do in temple, then I still would not be accepted as Brahmin and people will call me non-Bramhin priest.
You are wrong. Brahminism is not a caste, its a process. Caste is all about "What you do", not "What you are" Kalakremena meaning maarchi people started taking it to hearts. Brahmins intlo puttinantha maatrana brahmin ayyipodu, he will become a brahmin when he starts practising / follow prceedures. |
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Bumbumbole
Side Hero Username: Bumbumbole
Post Number: 2801 Registered: 08-2012 Posted From: 170.170.59.139
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 01:10 pm: |
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epudu ikada evaru caste marpidi ki ready ga unaru?? |
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Kalikaalam
Side Hero Username: Kalikaalam
Post Number: 6673 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 171.159.64.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 01:10 pm: |
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Kindal:I even can get a certificate
Who will give u certiifcate that you learned Vedas from?? Vedas anevi university text books kaadu kadaa?? Niku gudi lo pujalu chesukovalankonte chesuko..Konni chotla cheyynistaaru. kaani nuvvu Brahmin vi kaalevu. vruthi kaavalante maarchuko. |
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Kindal
Side Hero Username: Kindal
Post Number: 2005 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 106.51.126.211
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 01:09 pm: |
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I read some where that Vedas allow conversion from one Varna to another. While different castes form a Varna, why not Caste to Caste conversion possible? For in India, Bhakti or what may be called the path of devotion or hero-worship, plays a part in its politics unequalled in magnitude by the part it plays in the politics of any other country in the world. Bhakti in religion may be a road to the salvation of the soul. But in politics, Bhakti or hero-worship is a sure road to degradation and to eventual dictatorship. |
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Maverick
Legend Username: Maverick
Post Number: 42820 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 70.39.231.164
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 01:09 pm: |
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kulam swadharmam nunchi puttindi.. swadharme nidhanam sreyaha..para dharmo bhayavaha annaru..so mararu a to b Who is this DB member? |
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Kalikaalam
Side Hero Username: Kalikaalam
Post Number: 6671 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 171.159.64.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 01:07 pm: |
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Summary: Hindu point of view lo, 'any kind of conversion' anedi kudaradu. Nuvvu ye sect lo puttaavo, yi janma ku anthe. |
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Kindal
Side Hero Username: Kindal
Post Number: 2004 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 106.51.126.211
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 01:06 pm: |
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Suyodhan:It does happens. For example, Brahmins who dont follow daily course of Practice are not brahmins any more.
If thats the case, then all YKP supporters in our state should openly admit that JKJ is x'ian. Why cant one convert from one lower caste to another, upper to lower, lower to upper etc? If I am interested in Vedas I will learn them through books, by enrolling in course and I even can get a certificate. If I build a temple and practice all that Bramhin priests do in temple, then I still would not be accepted as Brahmin and people will call me non-Bramhin priest. What the hell is this? For in India, Bhakti or what may be called the path of devotion or hero-worship, plays a part in its politics unequalled in magnitude by the part it plays in the politics of any other country in the world. Bhakti in religion may be a road to the salvation of the soul. But in politics, Bhakti or hero-worship is a sure road to degradation and to eventual dictatorship. |
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Kalikaalam
Side Hero Username: Kalikaalam
Post Number: 6670 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 171.159.64.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 01:04 pm: |
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Diviseema:kelapothe asalu caste ne raddu cheyyochhu.
Kudaradu. oka saari Hinduvu ga aputtinaaka, caste ni radhu cheyyadma anedi kudaa vundadu. |
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Kalikaalam
Side Hero Username: Kalikaalam
Post Number: 6669 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 171.159.64.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 01:03 pm: |
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Kindal:While conversion from one religion to another is legal, socially accepted practice and Constitutionally backed, why can't one convert from one caste to another?
Idi kudaa mana matham(Hindu) lo ledu. 'conversion to Hindu religion' anedi ledu.Puttukatho vahcinde matham ayina, kulam ayina kuda. Vere religon vallu maarchukontaaru kaani, mana matham loki conversion anedi saasthram lo ledu. Sringeri Peettaadhipathi 'chandrasekharendra swaraswathi' clear gaa cheppaaru yi vishyam. Yi madhya vachina pilli pithiri swamy lu modalettaaru 're-conversion'..thokka tholu ani..adi anthaa saashtra virudham. |
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Diviseema
Hero Username: Diviseema
Post Number: 13323 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 14.99.211.219
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 01:02 pm: |
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kindal thammudu appudu reservations misuse avuthai. andhuke not allowed. kelapothe asalu caste ne raddu cheyyochhu. Oka Jagan Fan http://i.imgur.com/w4y3c.jpg |
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Maverick
Legend Username: Maverick
Post Number: 42817 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 70.39.231.164
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 01:02 pm: |
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>>Why didn't conversion from one Caste to another Caste happening? In general it may not happen as Cate doesn't have its own god. It can first start in DB..DB lo castes gods /reps unnaru..atleast it is felt that way K- Ntr Kap - Chiru B - SPB/Vissu R - YSR/Jagan/Sharmilla etc etc Der kurrod konnalu temporary K status pondadu when he supported Jr ntr and made comments on chiru..malla edo oka scenario lo Ks vissu ni ante kurrod return of the dragon anandu.. so it happens in db Who is this DB member? |
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Suyodhan
Junior Artist Username: Suyodhan
Post Number: 98 Registered: 01-2013 Posted From: 69.174.87.92
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 01:01 pm: |
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Kindal:Why didn't conversion from one Caste to another Caste happening?
It does happens. For example, Brahmins who dont follow daily course of Practice are not brahmins any more. |
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Linkmaster
Legend Username: Linkmaster
Post Number: 32140 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 149.128.8.245
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 01:00 pm: |
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Kindal:Why didn't conversion from one Caste to another Caste happening?
why not . marry other cast girl/boy and change to her/his cast |
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Kindal
Side Hero Username: Kindal
Post Number: 2002 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 106.51.126.211
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 12:57 pm: |
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Sorry, typed in Telugu fonts and I looks like server didnt render it. While conversion from one religion to another is legal, socially accepted practice and Constitutionally backed, why can't one convert from one caste to another? Why didn't conversion from one Caste to another Caste happening? For in India, Bhakti or what may be called the path of devotion or hero-worship, plays a part in its politics unequalled in magnitude by the part it plays in the politics of any other country in the world. Bhakti in religion may be a road to the salvation of the soul. But in politics, Bhakti or hero-worship is a sure road to degradation and to eventual dictatorship. |
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King
Side Hero Username: King
Post Number: 4326 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 208.185.201.194
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 12:55 pm: |
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Kindal:Calling Religion and Caste Experts
calling Sachin ante saripoyedhi kada Ashton - I'm living an Amish lifestyle. so far so good. |
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Raman
Hero Username: Raman
Post Number: 15738 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 159.182.1.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 12:53 pm: |
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tittava? |
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Kindal
Side Hero Username: Kindal
Post Number: 2001 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 106.51.126.211
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 12:49 pm: |
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మనà±à°·à±à°²à± మతాలౠమారడà°à°²à± తపà±à°ªà± à°²à±à°¨à°ªà±à°ªà±à°¡à±, మత మారà±à°ªà°¿à°¡à°¿à°¨à°¿ à°°à°¾à°à±à°¯à°¾à°à°à° à°à°®à±à°¦à°¿à°à°à°¿à°¨à°ªà±à°ªà±à°¡à± à°à° à°à±à°²à° à°¨à±à°à°à°¿ à°à°à°à± à°à±à°²à°¾à°¨à°¿à°à°¿ à°à° మనిషి à°à°à°¦à±à°à± మార à°à±à°¡à°¦à±? For in India, Bhakti or what may be called the path of devotion or hero-worship, plays a part in its politics unequalled in magnitude by the part it plays in the politics of any other country in the world. Bhakti in religion may be a road to the salvation of the soul. But in politics, Bhakti or hero-worship is a sure road to degradation and to eventual dictatorship. |