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http://news.rediff.com/report/2010/jun/10/got-a-call-from-cm s-office-to-fly-out-anderson.htm

indian govt helped anderson to escape in a jet arranged by then CM Arjun singh...

see their priorities...axssholes
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Mrhyderabad:

So he was making bigger impact in that role... then y the mainstream politics?




Good things like the ones mentioned are not sustainable in the present political system we have.

Well, it depends on how you define impact. We are still a society where money, caste, region are more important than governance in politics. Worst of all even educated are with the mindset that corruption is not a crime in India, and politics don't work without money. Show me one developed country in the world like this. I am not saying that all the developed countries are perfect.

I think it takes a huge sacrifice for somebody in that position to resign.
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# Economic reform and restructuring of AP.
# Development of the Infocity HITEC City (Hyderabad Information Technology Engineering Consultancy City) in Hyderabad to facilitate the growth of the software industry.


So he was making bigger impact in that role... then y the mainstream politics?
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Indiarocks:

I disagree with this. The minute LSP became a political party, JP became a politician. A political reformer, and a politician need not be different.




The modern definition of a politician is changed. I don't know what you mean by politician. In the current definition a politician, one should do:
(1) Think about caste equations
(2) Do Dharnas even if it disturbs public.
(3) Critisize ruling party for everything

He can't do all these things.

If your definition of potitician is to give good governance, then he created the platform to bring true piliticians. Still he is creating awareness to the people. This is what a reformer will do. So I am treating him more of a reformer than a Politician now.

Tell me your views of a politician, then I will try to see him as a politician.
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Mrhyderabad:

Btw, i heard that he was CS to many CMs in the past. AFAIK, that's a very powerful position. If he couldn't do it from that position then god help of system
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# Economic reform and restructuring of AP.
# Development of the Infocity HITEC City (Hyderabad Information Technology Engineering Consultancy City) in Hyderabad to facilitate the growth of the software industry.

Manaki CBN Bill gates ki PPt presentation ichi software industry develop chesadu. kiki
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Indiarocks:

Who is going to do that for the other 293 constituencies?


Again, i was only talking about KP const. If he can prove it in KP then people might give more seats to LS next time.

Btw, i heard that he was CS to many CMs in the past. AFAIK, that's a very powerful position. If he couldn't do it from that position then god help of system.
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Vijay77:

Coming to your question, if you expect him to solve all the problems of KP, he will not do and cannot do. He is a political reformer not a politician.




I disagree with this. The minute LSP became a political party, JP became a politician. A political reformer, and a politician need not be different.
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Mrhyderabad:

Pardon my ignorance but i thought this also comes under welfare of the people in his const. May be i need to check the official role & responsibility of a a MLA...




Traffic, managing slums, cleanliness, garbage etc, are best handled by local govts. Remember who ran most of the show during 9/11? It
was the mayor of Newyork. Our local Govts. aka the muncipal corp, panchayat etc, do not have any funds allocated. Existing MLAs, MPs, ministers want
to be the power centers, and want control on funds, for obvious reasons.


For me, an MLA has to work to bring a change in such a system. JP has been fighting to empower local Govts for more than a decade. The advantages with
this are not obvious. It can reduce corruption, give the system more accountability. Like you said JP can use his influence to get some funds,
and get some favors for KP. Who is going to do that for the other 293 constituencies? Is that going to be a fix?

How much can one man do, when people choose to give him only 1 seat?

And ppl still blame him for the stinking garbage can next to their home.
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Mr Hyderabad,
He is not confined to KP, his aim is more than that. He is doing his part in Kukatpally and you can see them in his website. But people are expecting wonders from him. Even after 5 yesas, people will ask the same questions and he can't meet their expectations. I don't think he can even win in the next elections. Winning or loosing doesn't change any difference to him. Already he achieved a lot in his career and life. This MLA, Ministers, CM and PM, all are nothing to him. He is a saint and preacher in LSP. He will preach and it is upto the listeners and followers to decide if they want to follow him or not.
Even in his all speeches in recent US meetings, he didn't criticize any political party. He knows that it is very very difficult to chnage the current political system but he is hoping that a point like Berlin wall fall will come. In the last election, he contested to proove that atleast one can win without money and liquor distribution. Thats it. He proved it and it is upto the youth to come forward and contest in the elections.

Coming to your question, if you expect him to solve all the problems of KP, he will not do and cannot do. He is a political reformer not a politician.
He is proposing the solutions to solve the problems but he doesn't get ANY support from all political parties.
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Guttonkay:

Imagine how many such kids are out there in just Hyd alone. Imagine how many 100s of crores it would take and as an opposition MLA where/how he could mobilize that kind of funds.


I am only talking about KP area from where he is representing.

Again, i apologize if i sound to be JP-basher. I am not... i still have huge respect for him and still donate to his party once in a while. He is relatively better.. that's all.
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Mrhyderabad:

As a MLA he should build a govt facility to house such kids. Not a very expensive project i guess.




Imagine how many such kids are out there in just Hyd alone. Imagine how many 100s of crores it would take and as an opposition MLA where/how he could mobilize that kind of funds.

I don't know what JP is doing or not doing. I am just saying the opposition party MLA in Indian political system doesn't have much mileage unless the ruling party wants something out of you.
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Indiarocks:

You did not answer me, if JP is busy in building homes
for the homeless, who is going to do the work of an MLA?


Pardon my ignorance but i thought this also comes under welfare of the people in his const. May be i need to check the official role & responsibility of a a MLA...
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Getafix:

Night Leader chusaa..I think SK should come into politics and start a party. State ni oka choclate factory laga chesesthadu. I wish he comes into politcs.




aunu, cinema lo Rana nadichinatlu SK talapaga pettukuni nadustadu. Venakala antha change aipothu untdundi. roads, buildings anni vachestayi.
Cinema lo choopinchadu gaa, aa mathram cheyaleda enti?
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Night Leader chusaa..I think SK should come into politics and start a party. State ni oka choclate factory laga chesesthadu. I wish he comes into politcs.
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Mrhyderabad:

I said that as a least thing he can ask his men to do.

As a MLA he should build a govt facility to house such kids. Not a very expensive project i guess.

Or KP main road lo already 1 KM crossing ki 30 mins peak time lo... as a mla he can talk to mch to stop giving permissions for malls, multiplexes in already crowded area, right? These are just examples...




How many funds does an MLA get to build a facility for
kids in his area?

He can talk to stop giving permissions aa, the ruling
party MLA candidate has a stake in those Malls, evaru
vintaru?

You did not answer me, if JP is busy in building homes
for the homeless, who is going to do the work of an
MLA?
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Jp_rocks:

2 rs lo poverty lekunda cheyyala


please read my post again :-)
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Jp_rocks:

2 years




2 yrs aa, it has been only a few days over an year.
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Indiarocks:

so you are suggesting that LSP should work like a charity


I said that as a least thing he can ask his men to do.

As a MLA he should build a govt facility to house such kids. Not a very expensive project i guess.

Or KP main road lo already 1 KM crossing ki 30 mins peak time lo... as a mla he can talk to mch to stop giving permissions for malls, multiplexes in already crowded area, right? These are just examples...
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Mrhyderabad:

And wt did he do in last 2 years to KPHB? You can still see number of homeless kids sleeping 20 feet away from highway. He doesn't need to be CM chair to solve this kind of small issues, right?


if you were the MLA of KPHB, what would you have done in 2 years to TOTALLY eliminate poverty from the area?

at the max anyone can drive these ppl away into other areas of the city...other than that, a person in the capacity of an opposition MLA cannot do a thing in 2 yrs to resolve this issue..

2 rs lo poverty lekunda cheyyala
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Mrhyderabad:

Least he could do was to ask his partymen to identify and move them to places where they get food and shelter. There are many org's out there in hyd who can support such kids.




so you are suggesting that LSP should work like a charity. If so, who is going to do the work of an MLA?
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@coke

enduku warning
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Cocanada:




smaller town compared to hyd ani meaning anukunta...nuvvu blood boil chesukoku. :-)
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Humpty_dumpty:

smaller town like kkd,


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Indiarocks:

And I do not understand why everything leads to JP.


because he is (was?) beacon of hope in dark and dirty jungle.


Indiarocks:

How do you think JP should solve the problem?


Least he could do was to ask his partymen to identify and move them to places where they get food and shelter. There are many org's out there in hyd who can support such kids.


Indiarocks:

Parties, leaders ekkadi nuncho raaru mastaru. Prajallonche vastaru.


Dialogue baavundi. Tagore aa?

have you heard about a political party started by a bunch IITs in MP(?) few years ago? They didn't come any where close due to rigging, money, liquor etc
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Mrhyderabad:

How many JPs do we have in state? And wt did he do in last 2 years to KPHB? You can still see number of homeless kids sleeping 20 feet away from highway. He doesn't need to be CM chair to solve this kind of small issues, right?




And I do not understand why everything leads to JP.
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Mrhyderabad:

How many JPs do we have in state? And wt did he do in last 2 years to KPHB? You can still see number of homeless kids sleeping 20 feet away from highway. He doesn't need to be CM chair to solve this kind of small issues, right?




Ok, you think that is a small issue? How do you think JP should solve the problem?
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Mrhyderabad:

In 90% cases all 4 of them will be bad guys (corrupt, criminal etc) So wt do you suggest they do even if they drag themselves to poling booth?




are ppl electing the non-corrupt, non-criminal person in the 10% of cases? If people make it obvious that they are not going to elect a corrupt person why will parties field such candidates?

Parties, leaders ekkadi nuncho raaru mastaru. Prajallonche vastaru.

Manalo majority ilanti incidents vinte blood boil chesukuntamu, taruvatha I am not political, Politics are $hit, I hate politics antamu.
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How many JPs do we have in state? And wt did he do in last 2 years to KPHB? You can still see number of homeless kids sleeping 20 feet away from highway. He doesn't need to be CM chair to solve this kind of small issues, right?
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Indiarocks:

What are ppl who can eat 3 times a day doing? This class is the most irresponsible when it comes to voting, and having a say in the Govts that are being elected.


Seetha kashtaalu seetha vi... Peeta kashtaalu peeta vi.

Middle class, lower middle class struggle even more.

let's say there are 3-4 candidates contesting from major parties. In 90% cases all 4 of them will be bad guys (corrupt, criminal etc) So wt do you suggest they do even if they drag themselves to poling booth?
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One chief Justice said that the two years imprisonment is appropriate. He said that the reason is that we don't have any proper law/clause in such instances. So if there is no clause, anyone can escape from law.
It is purely accident, so i don't think too much about the punishment. It is the government duty to take care of the effected people, but I don't read anywhere about government action. Just government gave few thousands to ill people and few lakhs to the died. It is not enough. Earler I was so happy when nuclear deal was signed but now I am thinking if some diasater happens, then the same history repeats. Someone can throw some light on the nuclear deal and who is resposible if something happens, safety measurements and compensation.
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you guys were probably too young when the tragedy happened but it is still fresh in memory for me and always came back as I travelled thru Bhopal {Anand_n,}

All_mix, Der lu inka putti vundaru or may be 1 year vundi vuntaru


http://ibnlive.in.com/news/.../123379-3.html?from=rhs -

most of the victims surviving have respiratory problems or lost eyesight
such a sad incident cant forget
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Mrhyderabad:

What choices do they have? How can they understand vision 2020 kind of plans when can't get to eat 3 times a day.

Bottom up approach is never going to work/happen in India
. It has to be top down approach IMO.




What are ppl who can eat 3 times a day doing? This class is the most irresponsible when it comes to voting, and having a say in the Govts that are being elected. Don't say that each and everybody in India is struggling to eat 3 times a day.
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Indiarocks:

It is the ppl who elect a Govt.


What choices do they have? How can they understand vision 2020 kind of plans when can't get to eat 3 times a day.

Bottom up approach is never going to work/happen in India. It has to be top down approach IMO.
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Why blame the Govt. for everything.

It is the ppl who elect a Govt.

If at all ppl in Bhopal were serious about this, and the ppl of MP supported them, they would have voted only for a party that takes this issue seriously, this issue would have been resolved decades ago.
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Good article from TIME

Bhopal, BP Oil Spill: Two Disasters, Different Justice - TIME

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1995029,00.htm l
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Elcaminocapastrino:

total 17000....


Too much kadaa.. ee incident gurinchi appudappudu news lo vinna kaani.. didn't think it was this big.


Humpty_dumpty:

if u really want to go back to india...think abt ur kids and retreat to a smaller town like kkd, rajahmundry



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defenite drag on chesi deals cut chesaru.....to help main guy in US to avoid prosecution.....

26 yrs for a verdict is just not disappointing....but a national shame....
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Ee convict ayyina chiarman gaadiki 2002 or 2003 lo padmabhushan ichaaranta indian govt. Atta etta icharo arhtam ayyi chavatledu inta pedda case vaadi meeda pending lo unnappudu. kaneesam veedikaina dhimaag undi, reject chesaadu. says a lot about our country and governments.
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Anand_n:


i followed this tragedy on air/tv/print media.
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The real shame is how long it took to reach a verdict..you guys were probably too young when the tragedy happened but it is still fresh in memory for me and always came back as I travelled thru Bhopal :-(

A tragedy on that scale and the judiciary drags its feet in holding the company responsibe - how much money changed how many hands ????


Humpty_dumpty:

USA does not want to extradite the CEO but the govt and people goes after BP for the gulf mess
so much for hypocrisy




BP Tony Hayward kuda free gane tirugutunnadu kada making comments like "I'd like my life back"
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Humpty_dumpty:


our problem is we are toooo liberally democratic.

everything is tiedup to votes.

this should change, some immunity be there if govt wants to take some bold steps.

areas ni kaali chepiyinchi relocate jeddam ante, next term aa leader ,party ki votes bokka.
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@basky

aday chepthunna mama...villages lo same ppl reside for a long time
city lo kooda when same set of ppl reside in these areas for a long time, u will see the effect
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Humpty_dumpty:


already we have flouride victims in nalgonda dt
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USA does not want to extradite the CEO but the govt and people goes after BP for the gulf mess
so much for hypocrisy

India cannot push its case for 17k deaths and lakhs of victims ...says much about the value of life in desham
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As long as you can find a villian, its easy to provoke people. Documentary teeyadaaniki right time idi
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next bhopal waiting to happen is
our very own jeedimetla , patancheruvu areas

ground water is highly polluted...gentic defiencies are not noticeable now unlike the villages as the it is a moving population ...but u will see the effect when same people live in that area for a few years
winter is a nightmare when there is a fog- thick smog blankets are formed
industrial waste is dumped into drainage canals
waste management is putting it out in the open
there is literally no air circulation in hyd coz of the concrete jungle
forget any green city clean city BS
no political party has the guts to tackle this issue...JP/LSP etc will do sample tests, surveys suggestions ...but the public wont awake until a disaster happens

kotlu karchupetti janalu adjoining areas lo villas, apts kontunaaru including many from this DB
if u really want to go back to india...think abt ur kids and retreat to a smaller town like kkd, rajahmundry
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Indian govt ki antha untey they wouldnt even let people live near the plant....
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letting people live near plant anedhi pedda issue kadhu.....

may be the plant itself is set up near a residential area....

and the areas affected are not just the close ones in this case i think....

also it usually happens that when a big company is set up....people who depend on daily wages and other works set up basthis around.....this is quite common in India.....

same with airports......they are built out of town.....then the town creeps up to the airport and then people start saying....airport runway is right next to residential areas.....
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Indian govt ki antha untey they wouldnt even let people live near the plant....
....
ceo is not andrew hunderson its warren anderson
http://news.rediff.com/slide-show/2010/jun/07/slide-show-1-W arren-Andersons-nine-hundred-thousand-dollar-luxury-home-in- new-york.htm
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Gandhiguevara:


http://specials.rediff.com/news/2004/dec/01sld1.htm

rediff lo inkaa clear ga unnai aa factory machines,tanks etc
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CEO is residing somewhere in NY.

india govt asked several times to hand him over, but lite teeskundi amrika
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oka manchi docu theesi prapancham meeda ki vadalaali ani vundi...already 2 days nundi gunde ragili pothaadni
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The govt of ours surveyed and clearly told them that

DESIGN is flaw and standards are less . UCIL did not update it
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The people who found guilty

appatlo Union Carbide India Chairman (eediki 2002 lo padma bhushan iyyaboyar anta)
then
aa time lo VP , Works Manager ,Production Manager, Plant Superintendent , Production Assistant

2 years n they r already on bail.....
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in this case....i think the US company is resposible big time.....

no way they could have by passed safety standards citing it is in India....
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Hail_the_labour:

us company failed to keep the standards




yes.. US lo oka rakamga..india lo oka rakamaga run chesaru.. safety standards manollu sariga implement cheyatam(from govt side) ledu ano, avi sariga levano athani meaning anuunta..
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union carbide....yes...they made those safety things in the US plant...but they didnt push in the India plant...

usual ga..3 or 4 safety valves or mechanisms untayi.....

bhopal plant lo okey okati....and that is not working....this is a disaster waiting to happen.....

51% stake holder US company.....safety standards kooda vallu equal responsible....


something wnt wrong somewhere....standards by ass cheyatam.....ilanti industries lo....konchem kastam.....kontha set cheyocchu kaani...assalu lekunda....avvaddu....
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Elcaminocapastrino:

manollu as usually lite....




Union Carbide is a subsidiary of the US office. CEO is also andrew hunderson.

manollu manollu antav endhi..... us company failed to keep the standards
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what contributed to this accident

1)First n foremost....our langa govt letting people live near a plant which is producing deadly chemicals....oka protocol oka paddhathi emi ledhu

2)Bad equipmnet....thuppu pattina cintainers that are holding MIC the most deadlies t chemical....alarm devices setup to recognize leak not working for years...

3)cost cuts valla there were no skilled people working in the plant that night who could have reacted quickly to contain the gas

4)1981 lo oka panel of american experts from america visited the plants setup in bhopal and also the one setup in USA both ny union carbide which manufactures MIC....basically same type of plants ....and they warn about this type of thing might happen....immediately the plant in USA is addressed for these issues and manollu as usually lite....
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kastapadi 2 years vesaru after 25 years..jail kanna house arrest cheste bagundedi emo vallaki ibbandi lekunda,
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Elcaminocapastrino:

total 17000....


Deaths avi.

later lakhs were effected to illhealth premature diseases,etc etc

ceoo is happily residing in NY. dorakatledu ani cheppethunnaru.
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http://news.rediff.com/slide-show/2010/jun/07/slide-show-1-b hopal-gas-tragedy-verdict.htm#contentTop

Bhopal gas tragedy occured in bhopal in 1984...there was this company union carbide in US which opened this industry in bhopal to manufacture MIC (methyl isocyanate) ...this will be then used to make pesticides.....
the issue came when there was not much demand for pesticides and they started storing this extremely dangerous chemical as there is no one buying it that much....

since this is a very dangerous chemical....any leakage from it should be immediately detected...so for that they put some alarm device which wasnt working for 3 years to the date the tragedy happened....

some theories say somehow cleaning water got into the tank where MIC was being stored and some say it resulted in the increase of temp n the tank couldn't with stand it n it started venting out the pressure and the gas leaked....
It happened at night....some thousands of people died because of exposure to gas immediately n more later....

total 17000....

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