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Mental_sachinodu
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Getafix:

inkaa confuse ayina brother..

god supreme being aa kaada anedi pakkana pedithe inka god ni believe endhuku cheyale?

p.s - edo prove chesukovale ani question esthale mama.. nijangane confuse ayyi honest ga aduguthunna..not my intention to frustrate you or anyone.




getafix bro,
in the case under discussion, a lover goes against the concept of love, or the lover, mainly due to his experience that did not love up to his expectations. In most cases, the reaction is he would stay away from love/lover, and do not consider them as something important for him or for anybody. Inherently, he still knows that there is love, but he will consciously chose to entertain these beliefs.

I have seen many who have gone against worshiping god, due to some terrible experiences, when they believed he would protect them. These people inherently acknowledge the existence of god, but would reject to accept them as "their" god, and will always stay against him. they do not accept he is supreme, and their rationale would be, if he were supreme he could have avoid many of the terrible things happening around.

PS: I am not saying everyone will react the same way, but in most cases this is how they chose to become "non-believers".
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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Venkateswarlu:

Inka nenu confuse kaa dalchukoledu.. already mental maya neekosam two 250 lines paragraphs ready chestaa undi untadu.. kaasko.. iam done




nen confuse ayyi ninnu confuse chesinattunna..iga ikkadunna members ni further confuse cheyakunda jump ayithunna..
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Okahyderabadi:

my argument is if you place your faith in luck how is god different?




The difference is luck is just random chance , the word God associates premeditated, intelligent control of a situation :-)

Okahyderabadi:


naastikudi ki unde ahamkaram povali ante oka debba gattiga tagalali.




:-) Nastikulaki devudu ledu ane ahankaram ayite

Astikulaki - kotladhi mandi prajalu undaga , manake devudiki direct line undi, devudu mana pujalake precedence ichi, mana mate vini korikalu teerustadu ane ahankaram untundi anukunta :-)

Don't know which ahankaram is better or worse

MrHyd,
You cannot force belief - you can pretend that you believe :-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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do your best.....god will give you what you deserve.....nenu deenni pollow avuthaaa...i don't pray much
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Getafix:

inkaa confuse ayina brother..


Inka nenu confuse kaa dalchukoledu.. already mental maya neekosam two 250 lines paragraphs ready chestaa undi untadu.. kaasko.. iam done.. :D
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Tappu cheste Devudu kapadutadu anukovadam pedda moorkhatvam. U have to reap what you sow sooner or later. Just Love god and experience his warmth..then you will believe. Gaali kanipinchakapoina undi ani peelustunnatte, start loving god and u will soon believe him
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Venkateswarlu:

Question is believe in god's existence.. irrespective of Him being supreme or not.. ani mental mayya talking..




inkaa confuse ayina brother..

god supreme being aa kaada anedi pakkana pedithe inka god ni believe endhuku cheyale?

p.s - edo prove chesukovale ani question esthale mama.. nijangane confuse ayyi honest ga aduguthunna..not my intention to frustrate you or anyone.
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Venkateswarlu:

Ofcourse, deniki bhayapadakundaa neat gaa kooda brathakachhu.. neeki, naaki laagaa.. :D




Devudiki bhayapadevadu devudni nammina nammakapoina okate..Love god, dont fear god
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Getafix:

how can you still believe in god


Question is believe in god's existence.. irrespective of Him being supreme or not.. ani mental mayya talking..
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Mental_sachinodu:

in these cases you still believe there is god, but just reject the notion of god for what he is



idi ela possible? how can you still believe in god if you reject his/her supreme status?

nenu tappuga artham chesukunnanantara meeru post chesindhi?
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Mental_sachinodu:

in these cases you still believe there is god, but just reject the notion of god for what he is.


Nachhav tammi.. response adirindi.. touchae..
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Venkateswarlu:

Love la vaddanka, papa hand ichhinattu, demudu bhi hand iste time ki?




in these cases you still believe there is god, but just reject the notion of god for what he is.
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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Venkateswarlu:

demudu bhi hand iste time ki?


he he...just like in love, that is his problem, not yours. You did what you could.

"Life is paradoxically coincidental to the ironical tyranny applicable to the unparalleled definition of reverse entropy".

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Getafix:



In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day
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Venkateswarlu:

Love la vaddanka, papa hand ichhinattu, demudu bhi hand iste time ki?




dilse love jesetoniki hand isthada leka saath isthada anedi akkaraku undadhu brother.. just loving chesthad anthe.
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Mrhyderabad:



clarity missing in question . are you saying you want to become believer in God or in believer in all ?
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Ishan:

Believing in god is like falling in love


Love la vaddanka, papa hand ichhinattu, demudu bhi hand iste time ki?
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Maverick:

Tirumala garbha gudilo start chey..if u still don't feel the radiance/power of god, pakkane nuvvu kooda oka gudi kattinchuko.u may be god urself and so u r indifferent to that power that everyone experiences





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Believing in god is like falling in love. It can't be planned but should just happen.

"Life is paradoxically coincidental to the ironical tyranny applicable to the unparalleled definition of reverse entropy".

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Elcaminocapastrino:


thanks for sharing your experience. If you believe luck and the fact that you wore seat belts and that saved you fine. In the hundreds of thousands of accidents that happen every year some wear belts but still end up losing their lives. by your argument they are not lucky. now luck is an intangible thing like god, my argument is if you place your faith in luck how is god different?

devudante oka nammakam or a belief anukunte luck anedi kooda same kada? it just not being in the right place at the right time.there are many occasions where you were not in the right place but still got lucky. So even if you do all the things the right way and be in the right place at the right time things might not go your way - then according to your argument is badluck. but you just said luck is being in the right place at the right time and doing the right things and yet you did not have success so do you call it luck then?

Mr hyder edo uso poka adiginattu unnaru question and we all got sucked in
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Jp_rocks:

i closed my eyes..soon i lost myself in the spiritual avalanche that flowed......at the end of the event, i experienced such peace that i didnt know existed..i was flushed.......i was happy..i was rejuvenated and recharged..


Manchi strong sleep vesi lechi vuntaaru



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Venkateswarlu:

Ofcourse, deniki bhayapadakundaa neat gaa kooda brathakachhu.. neeki, naaki laagaa..



If god doesn't like the way I live, let him tell me, not you
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Mrhyderabad:

kashta padi swa sakthi tho chematodchi paiki vachi vaalu/vasthunna vaallu anta ide category lo ekkuva vuntaaru emo




mari inka eti.. believer ga maradam program cancel..

andaru pakka thrds lo kotukondi..


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Okahyderabadi:

can you share your NDE with us or is it personal?


I was in two horrible car crashes....and came unscathed from both of them....the crashes were so bad that if u see the car after it happened u wont believe someone can survive....
my reasoning for that is seat belt and air bags and the position I sat in the car while the accidents happened and the angle in which I collided....And I walked awy from the car shaken for 2mins and thinking about the liability insurance that I declined..dats all..and in one accident i was passenger and I dont remember wat i did then after accident...no god or no philosophy...i was lucky....and the car was not...
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Thirtyplus:

the "right" word itself speaks of positive result.
the "wrong" word speaks of neg result.


I agree to this.. almost.. say, during 911, I was in one of the twin towers.. and just left the building and now alive.. so ee case lo, the place was wrong.. timing was wrong.. but still i was 'lucky' enough to survive ani anukovachhu gaa.. just a thought.. I do agree to your wordings..
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Venkateswarlu:

Wrong time in wrong place lo undee, still result is positive, 'luck' ani nen anukuntaa..




the "right" word itself speaks of positive result.
the "wrong" word speaks of neg result.
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Believing in God gives u strength to deal with debbalu....But it wont prevent or cure dhebbalu....
oka sarina dhebba thagalaganey everyone will lose balance....at that point different people react different ways...

1) if ur rational then u would like to pull urselves together, reason with the shxt that happened and try to build something of ur life from watever thats remaining....
for eg u lose all ur family in a train accident then cry for 2 years...then adapt 2 kids and make a family of ur own...all set...

2)Just turn resentful and hateful...hate everything n everyone for wat happened to ur family and become a anti social element....

Now God is bought into picture to reason with the second set of people and give them strength to act like first set of people....Iam not saying everyone who believes in God without God would take choice 2...But wat Iam saying his for people who can lose sanity cause of their loss then a word or two about magic n philosphy n other world or watever gives them strength....

FOr someone who chose to follow 1 or 2 irrespective or god or no god then god is useless for them....
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Luck ni nammadam..swasakthini maatrame nammadam rendu different dimensions kaadaa??
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More or less ide sense lo nenu naa post chesaa. idikudaa oka guddi namamkam kaadaa??
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Meaning of luck from one of the online dictionaries-
n.

1. The chance happening of fortunate or adverse events; fortune: They met one day out of pure luck.
2. Good fortune or prosperity; success: We wish you luck.
3. One's personal fate or lot: It was just my luck to win a trip I couldn't take.
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anta kalsi tirumala setting esara?

Garbha gudi avatala monnane ecvadu shreya kanipiste edo chesadata ..

It is in your mind connect avadam avaka podam. ediko elte edo jaruguddi anukodamlo nijam ledu ....
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Wrong time in wrong place lo undee, still result is positive, 'luck' ani nen anukuntaa..
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Kalikaalam:

"Being at righttime in right palce" ni luck antaaraa?? I am not sure.




yes..definitely
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MrHyd..if u really wanna get urself to believe in a religion.....u should establish a spiritual connection to SOMETHING even remotely associated to the religion..trust me i used to be a non believer....never could care less for darsanams or bhajans or gods....

when i visited tirmala 4 years ago (we used to frequent to tirumala but i never felt a thing).....i experienced a spark which vanished when the bouncer shouldered me away.. but i thought, may be there is a radiance in this place.....and in the chantings inside the temple..

then, after i came to the US, i ran into my childhood friend who were performing a 'veda ghosha' the other night.....i went there out of obligation..but the moment the ghanapatis started uttering vedas, i was taken aback..there was drop dead silence from everyone but these pundits.....with vedas reverberating in the hall, i closed my eyes..soon i lost myself in the spiritual avalanche that flowed......at the end of the event, i experienced such peace that i didnt know existed..i was flushed.......i was happy..i was rejuvenated and recharged..

from that day..i stopped quizzing myself abt the existence of gods.....not that i started to believe in god, but i found no value in the dilemna..instead i started enjoying the spiritual connection i established with my religion..... my perspective towards god changed from that of belief to 'spiritual connection'......

try VEDA PATHANAM or VEDA GHOSHA in ur next desam visit.....

While Tirumala is a great place to experience great spiritual vibes, you can
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dont waste your time trying to find faith, in my opinion faith is something that happens sub consciously. its just like having faith on your loved one's, you cant force it, you just have it sub consciously. any other way its just a compromise.
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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Elcaminocapastrino:


nice play of words. this is how non beleivers usually go about explaining their stand. idi vadileyandi

can you share your NDE with us or is it personal?
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//so everybody who acknowledge the facts you said, will be atheist. thats wrong.//

Correct. Ide bhaavaala tho vunna naenu naasthikudu ni kaadu
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I dont believe in Karma....but i believe in jinx..psychological thing...
If you are a supremely confident individual no karma can do anything to u....
There are so many low lives n murderers who lead a happy life ....cause they dont believe in karma....but if u believe in karma n commit a known sin then it would kick the shxt out of u....and subconsciously u take a path that leads to something which seems like a payback to u for wat u did....I think any psychiatrist can explain this...like irfan khan n tabu from maqbool...they r ridden by guilt which at the end felt like karma...
The word is Guilty conscious....most of us who do day to day jobs are weak people....we r guided by morals n ethics...stealing is wrong...killin is crime etc etc..cheating is wrong....but all these big big companies wat they do is cheating....and they just flourish cause they accepted that as a part of life...
SImilarly if u accept any sin as not a big deal then ur fine...Cause we all do so many sins sub consciously...lets take the most common one...
eating non vegeterian....Hen,goat,deer,Cow,Pig....lets leave the family of fish from our example cause fish belong to pisces which have a very small central nervous system and they experience pain and cant remeber it for more few milli secnds...
Now hen goat deer cow n pig....most of these are consumes by humans every fcking day in one form or other....Now other than hen the rest of the clan are mammals....and they have very well developed central nervous sytem...which senses pain very well...now if ur from india u must know how they kill these goats n hens in our market....they cut their thraots thrown then in boiling water alive and wat not....its like the worst thing to happen for them....
But we accept that...cause we cant survive without them....But wat we all doing is a fcking sin....but we r ok with that....made peace with ourseles over that...so no karma would hanut us for killin animals....but if a Jain guy who covers his mouth in fear of killing bacteria feasts on a meal of chicken nuggets then his karma would kick the shxt out of him and following that unknowingly he becmoes a meal for some cannibals in brazil....
karma is all in mind....its psychological....like a jinx
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//LUCK ante "Being at the right place in right time" (IMO) //

Elaca says that he believes in luck.

Luck ante..the chance of happening an incident/event etc..
Nobody knows if that happens or not. ust you believe in it. God n namamdam kudaa anthe kadaa??

"Being at righttime in right palce" ni luck antaaraa?? I am not sure.
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I dont believe in Karma....
If you are a supremely confident individual no karma can do anything to u....
There are so many low lives n murderers who lead a happy life ....cause they dont believe in karma....but if u believe in karma n commit a known sin then it would kick the shxt out of u....and subconsciously u take a path that leads to something which seems like a payback to u for wat u did....I think any psychiatrist can explain this...like irfan khan n tabu from maqbool...they r ridden by guilt which at the end felt like karma...
The word is Guilty conscious....most of us who do day to day jobs are weak people....we r guided by morals n ethics...stealing is wrong...killin is crime etc etc..cheating is wrong....but all these big big companies wat they do is cheating....and they just flourish cause they accepted that as a part of life...
SImilarly if u accept any sin as not a big deal then ur fine...Cause we all do so many sins sub consciously...lets take the most common one...
eating non vegeterian....Hen,goat,deer,Cow,Pig....lets leave the family of fish from our example cause fish belong to pisces which have a very small central nervous system and they experience pain and cant remeber it for more few milli secnds...
Now hen goat deer cow n pig....most of these are consumes by humans every fcking day in one form or other....Now other than hen the rest of the clan are mammals....and they have very well developed central nervous sytem...which senses pain very well...now if ur from india u must know how they kill these goats n hens in our market....they cut their thraots thrown then in boiling water alive and wat not....its like the worst thing to happen for them....
But we accept that...cause we cant survive without them....But wat we all doing is a fcking sin....but we r ok with that....made peace with ourseles over that...so no karma would hanut us for killin animals....but if a Jain guy who covers his mouth in fear of killing bacteria feasts on a meal of chicken nuggets then his karma would kick the shxt out of him and following that unknowingly he becmoes a meal for some cannibals in brazil....
karma is all in mind....its psychological....like a jinx
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Elcaminocapastrino:

1)death will happen to anyone at any age...
2)u r prone to any disease anytime..
3)u can lose ur family today or tommorow but eventually u cant be with them for ever...

if u realize these then ur free from god...




so everybody who acknowledge the facts you said, will be atheist. thats wrong.
i do know that we all face those facts at some point of time. but i do believe in god - super power.
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Mrhyderabad:

kashta padi swa sakthi tho chematodchi paiki vachi vaalu/vasthunna vaallu anta ide category lo ekkuva vuntaaru emo


Aslo rapists, pedophiles, murderers kooda untaaru..

Manishi anevaadu evariko okariki bhayapadaali ani mana peddalu 'god' ni create sesi untaru.. evarikee bhayapadaka pothe, crime perugutadi ani emo.. its just a thought on why someone came up with 'god' concept.. ani nenu anukuntaa untaa..

Similar concept.. eeda divorce rate ekkuva.. desham la takkuva.. why? coz,we fear of something called 'society' .. adhe ikkad soodu.. hevvad care seyyad society ni.. so oka bhayam, respect ani undi kaabatti manam eeroz ilaa unnam..

Ofcourse, deniki bhayapadakundaa neat gaa kooda brathakachhu.. neeki, naaki laagaa.. :D
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Okahyderabadi:

naastikudi ki unde ahamkaram povali ante oka debba gattiga tagalali. adi tagilina taruvata kooda if you still don't believe then nothing can change you




There is no relation between Ego and belief.Even believers also have super ego.
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Kalikaalam:

Then you are, definitley, abeiever. Somebody is believing 'God', another one is "not-believing" in god..you are believing in Luck


Idem logic?

LUCK ante "Being at the right place in right time" (IMO)

Deeniki GOD ki relation enti?
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//if you dont get what you want you call it bad luck and if you get you call it planning or luck. when can belive in things like luck, bad luck i am not sure what is logical about that. //

annai, good luck is being in the right place at the right time...bad luck is just the other way around...IMO you always make your luck either through your efforts/decisions/the framework you are part of...it is a combination of many such factors
one cannot be lucky if he jus believes in God anukuntunna...I believe in karma..if this belief makes you do good things then you are entailed to good luck by your own karma
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//naastikudi ki unde ahamkaram//

Naashtukudi lo vunde ahankaaram at least visible. kaani aasthikudu lo vundedi mari bhayankarmaina ahamkaaram/ahambhaavam.
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//I believe in luck..//

Then you are, definitley, abeiever. Somebody is believing 'God', another one is "not-believing" in god..you are believing in Luck

Words thedaa.. thinking a a little bit innvative. But, Belief system anedi milo vundi.
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Kalikaalam:


naastikudi ki unde ahamkaram povali ante oka debba gattiga tagalali. adi tagilina taruvata kooda if you still don't believe then nothing can change you.

andariki debba tagilite change avutaru analedu tammi, kondariki they need the nudge to step over the line, its like that last few drops of water to make it flow over the brim. kondariki sudden ga ade vastundi
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How many of you think science is rational?

If so, why?


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//kashta padi swa sakthi tho chematodchi paiki vachi vaalu/vasthunna vaallu anta ide category lo ekkuva vuntaaru emo //

Idi arrogant statement anukontaa. nenu anukovadam yi percentage chaalaa thakkuva.
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//I believe in luck..//

Idi udaa nammakm ye kadaa?/ nenu nijam gaa idi vatti trash anukonta. Yedo proper reason valanae (manaku theliyaka povachu) manaku aa nashtam/sukham kaligindi anukontaa.
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Elcaminocapastrino:

dhebba thagilithey maripoavatam is too much....I mean enni dhebbalu thagilina rational ga alochisthey everything has a reason..


annai, u rock!! Anduke nenu mee AC ni
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Woodpecker:

anr/ramoji/mr.hyd atheists


kashta padi swa sakthi tho chematodchi paiki vachi vaalu/vasthunna vaallu anta ide category lo ekkuva vuntaaru emo
If god doesn't like the way I live, let him tell me, not you
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//meditatting about him //

Wrong.thinking on some person/devudu is, in my openion, is not a meditation. That is just "Japam" or concentrating on some thing.
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Elcaminocapastrino:


i was almost expecting you in this thread. you are a true non-believer then if after two NDE you are still unconvinced. luck anedi nuvvu nenu chudam but you believe in that. if you dont get what you want you call it bad luck and if you get you call it planning or luck. when can belive in things like luck, bad luck i am not sure what is logical about that.

ne way welcome to the thread. is it possible to share your NDE?
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anr/ramoji/mr.hyd atheists
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//pakkanonni ongobedithe, eppudo return ostadi aa favor..//

Pakkodini mosam chesinappdu kalige unresness.asoukaryam anede pedha siksha. Inka devudu siksha veyya nakkarledu.Asalu devedu siksha vesthaadu ani kudaa nenu anukonu.
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Elcaminocapastrino:

I mean enni dhebbalu thagilina rational ga alochisthey everything has a reason..




If people start thinking rationally, 50% people stop believing god .
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//na frind valla nana atheist ga unde vadu..sinnapu valla intki velthe 'ye devudu?..yavari devudu?..asalu devud yavru niku telusa' ani matlade vadu..ee roju daily 4 ki lechi 7 varku pujalu chestadu.//

Pujalu cheyyanu aani..Dhyaanam cheyyadaaniki prayathnisthunnaanu. Migilinadi anthaa naa case ye.

Maa vullo nenu okkadi ne(10 years age lone) naashtikudu ni. Chinna ..pedha theda lekundaa vaadinche vaadini.
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Venkateswarlu:

.. ante boy aithe okay na dollin'?




I am talking from dads perspective about their relationship with daugthers. Boys have that special connection with moms. :-)
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//alanti debba tagilinappudu or point vachinappudu automatic ga believer ga marutaru//

Debba thagilinappudu maardam anedi avakaasavaadam. maanasika balahinatha.Anthe..yevariki vaallaku "Search on truth" anedi yeppudo kaluguthundi. Daaniki reaso kudaa vundakapovachu.

Naaku ye dbba thagala ledu ippati varaku. yedo prayathnam chesthunnaa..Daari..donka..inkaa dorakaledu..
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dhebba thagilithey maripoavatam is too much....I mean enni dhebbalu thagilina rational ga alochisthey everything has a reason..

1)death will happen to anyone at any age...
2)u r prone to any disease anytime..
3)u can lose ur family today or tommorow but eventually u cant be with them for ever...

if u realize these then ur free from god...

I believe in luck..and working sensibly..and timing....if things are not working for me I wait for my time...very patiently.....inga I faced two near death experiences....not once I thought of god after that....shxt can happen to anyone in life but for some believing in god n meditatting about him or watever mumbo jumbo they do gives them strength to face the shxt and for some relaxing at beach listening to music n getting lost recharges them to face that shxt ...

Believing in God just gives someone additional strength other than that they wont get a dime.....
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Dreamcatcher:

IMHO, to say you do not believe in god when you have a daughter is simply lying. :-)


.. ante boy aithe okay na dollin'?
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//First meeting lo ne athani meeda nammakam raadu kadaa. Over the time, tanu chese panula valla etc nammakam kalugutundi, right?//

Nenu cheppedi kudaaa ade broter. Nammakam kalaga daaniki try cheyydam yemiti ani?? Oka roju nammkam anedi ade kalugudhi. lekpaothe ledu. Snehuthu di mida nammakam kalagadaaniki try chesthaamaa??

Oka party maaraalante party fees katti, application mida santhakam cheyyaali. idi alaa kaadu kadaa?? Ipudu miku devudu mida nammaka ledu anuondaamu. dini valana miku aani...prapanchaani ki gaani vachina nashtam ledu.So, yi "tryings" yenduku?? ani
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Mrhyderabad:

Bad things can happen to any one at any time...


They might or might not.. but bad sette matuku they will happen ani anukuntunnaa.. karma is a biach.. :D
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Mrhyderabad:


bad things happening in this life is payback for things you did in another life i.e if you believe in karma.
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Mrhyderabad:

Where do i start? How do i start?




many sub-consciously believe in god, but consciously dont believe.
looks like you also belong to the same group

before everything, intiki velli....mee parents ista daivam vigraham kaani, patam kaani mundala pettuko. aa vigrahanni kaani, patanni kaani kallatho chala sepu tannu. nuvvu tanna galigithe....appudu nuvvu non believer.
tanna leka pothe.....you are a believer. my gut says you are a believer subconsciously.

post after you do this
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when you go home this evening, give your daughter a hug and you can start from there. IMHO, to say you do not believe in god when you have a daughter is simply lying. :-)
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Venkateswarlu:

I do however, believe in karma, esp bad karma.. pakkanonni ongobedithe, eppudo return ostadi aa favor..


Bad things can happen to any one at any time... so evarini ongo pettakapoyina vasthundi emo... kakapothe if we did a bad thing in the past, we will easily co-relate or dump it on that
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Bhikhu:

idi 100% true..na frind valla nana atheist ga unde vadu..sinnapu valla intki velthe 'ye devudu?..yavari devudu?..asalu devud yavru niku telusa' ani matlade vadu..ee roju daily 4 ki lechi 7 varku pujalu chestadu..valla tamud intlo morning 5 ki edo function unte eena 1 ki lechi 4 varku puja complete cheskuni velladu ta kiki




nenu kooda iddaru muggurini choosina tammi atuvanti state lo undi full time bhaktulu ga mari poyina vallu. ofcourse non-believers ki idi trash annuko
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Even I dont believe except when in deep trouble.. I do however, believe in karma, esp bad karma.. pakkanonni ongobedithe, eppudo return ostadi aa favor..
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Okahyderabadi:

alanti debba tagilinappudu or point vachinappudu automatic ga believer ga marutaru


idi 100% true..na frind valla nana atheist ga unde vadu..sinnapu valla intki velthe 'ye devudu?..yavari devudu?..asalu devud yavru niku telusa' ani matlade vadu..ee roju daily 4 ki lechi 7 varku pujalu chestadu..valla tamud intlo morning 5 ki edo function unte eena 1 ki lechi 4 varku puja complete cheskuni velladu ta kiki
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Mrhyderabad:

Ade adugutunna... aa "nammakam" kalagaali ante em cheyaali?





Raogaru:

non believers ni narikeyyali ani buranlo chepparu brother.



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edo oka turning factor undali life lo, alanti debba tagilinappudu or point vachinappudu automatic ga believer ga marutaru

adedo cinima la super anukunta brahmi antadu ga

nee jeevitam sagam sanka naki poyina daridramaina position lo unnappudu nannu choostavu ani ade type anna maata.

kondariki normal ga perigina environment ni tho, mari kondariki edo oka belief tho start avutundi, inkodariki shock treatment tho start avutundi, inka kondariki valla astrological state ni patti start avutundi(not for non-believers ofcourse).

so easy way idi ani cheppalemu. go figure
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Kalikaalam:

Nammakam vunte believer..Nammakam lekapothe 'non-believer'.


Ade adugutunna... aa "nammakam" kalagaali ante em cheyaali?

Let's say you meet someone at work or school etc. First meeting lo ne athani meeda nammakam raadu kadaa. Over the time, tanu chese panula valla etc nammakam kalugutundi, right?
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Mrhyderabad:

"Darshanam baaga ayindaa?" - Ippati varaku aa question meaning ardham kaaledu naaku :-(




ardham kakapovadaniki emundi dantlo..devudini clear ga satisfactory ga choosava? because u take lot of pains to be there in the first place.
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Hyder

Answer my question.

What do you want to believe in?
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Mrhyderabad:

believer gaa maaradaniki ye defined process ledaa?

Help me please...




Dont start beleiving god otherwise you will be in confused state.Also you need to read lot of religious books if you want to involve in fights between ebelivers and non belivers in this DB . LOL
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Mrhyderabad:

Where do i start? How do i start?


non believers ni narikeyyali ani buranlo chepparu brother. ika nee ittam, yekkada start chestaavo.
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Maverick:

Tirumala garbha gudilo start chey


U think i've never been there? As far as i can recall, at least 3-4 times velli vunta 10th class lopu. Once or twice parents kalyanam ticket koni maree teesukellaru... had to sit there for more than an hour i guess. So i don't think going there again is going to help.

And every time, memu vellina, or telisina vaallu velli vachina i hear one question without fail - "Darshanam baaga ayindaa?" - Ippati varaku aa question meaning ardham kaaledu naaku :-(

But i am a big fan of tpt laddu's :-)
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//there are many people who remain indifferent to that power or the feeling of power....lekapothey akkada gharba gudi lo security kurroll aa level lo sethulesi crowd ni control cheyyaleru//

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Maverick:

i feel daily akkada undevallaki aa power alavatai potundi..its not that they are indifferent. but year ki okasari velle manalanti vallaki vellinappudu tappakunda feel avvali sure ga anukuntunna


akkada undey vallaki power alavati poavatam endhi mama....I can argue that after being there day after day they realized that its just another place....
u put a jew or a muslim in garbha gudi would be fold his hands??
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Humpty_dumpty:

hyder kurrod temple canteen food kee baaga alawaatu padattu unnadu...j/k



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Dada is something else...eversince hes started playing well again....hyder lanti vallu devudini nammuthunnaru...Ganguly u rock:D
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hyder kurrod temple canteen food kee baaga alawaatu padattu unnadu...j/k
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Elcaminocapastrino:

there are many people who remain indifferent to that power or the feeling of power....lekapothey akkada gharba gudi lo security kurroll aa level lo sethulesi crowd ni control cheyyaleru....




i feel daily akkada undevallaki aa power alavatai potundi..its not that they are indifferent. but year ki okasari velle manalanti vallaki vellinappudu tappakunda feel avvali sure ga anukuntunna
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Mrhyderabad:

Where do i start? How do i start?




endhuku maaradam? i mean suddega maralsina avasaram enti ani? edanna teerani korika unda? believer ga maari devudiki mokkukuntava aaa korika teerchamani?
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what are you believing in?
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God chance kotedu.. Hyder believer gaa marutunnadu..



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Maverick:

Tirumala garbha gudilo start chey..




awesome place suggest chesaru annai... Hyder idigo nijamga eeda set chey aa tharvatha all set
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Maverick:

Tirumala garbha gudilo start chey..if u still don't feel the radiance/power of god, pakkane nuvvu kooda oka gudi kattinchuko.u may be god urself and so u r indifferent to that power that everyone experiences


mama i disagree...there are many people who remain indifferent to that power or the feeling of power....lekapothey akkada gharba gudi lo security kurroll aa level lo sethulesi crowd ni control cheyyaleru....
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//Tirumala garbha gudilo start chey..if u still don't feel the radiance/power of god//

Idi kudaa nammakam ni batee kaluguthundi anukontaa..

Naaku maa vuri shivaalayam lopla ku vellagaa ne oka rakamaina aadhyaathmika maina feeling kaluguthundi.. andairki kalagadhu mari..
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believe in wat damn it???
If you want to believe in satan I can help....
devil advocate chusi I became a fan of satan....
"wat do u want son...anything....wat about that casual walk into a stange womans bedroom" antadu pacino....raccha raccha...
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Mrhyderabad:




DB lo entha mandi believers vunnaro teluskotaniki ee thread aa... leka believers andarini kalipi vokey daggira kindaling cheyyataniki vesina thread aa... deenilo nee thatparyam endi Hydera :D
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Mrhyderabad:

Where do i start?




Tirumala garbha gudilo start chey..if u still don't feel the radiance/power of god, pakkane nuvvu kooda oka gudi kattinchuko.u may be god urself and so u r indifferent to that power that everyone experiences
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u are a believer now aswell ...u believe in not believing God
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//believer gaa maaradaniki ye defined process ledaa? //

question confusion gaa vundi."Believer' anedi oka matham/party/organization kaadu kadaa maaradaanki. Nammakam vunte believer..Nammakam lekapothe 'non-believer'. Nammakam lekundaa..Beliver ante..yelaa vilu paduthundi?

Am i missing something??
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kashtam chala elluga try chestunna ..
O bhagavantuda nuvvunnavo ledo teleedu oka vela unte nannu manninchu manchi budhini prasadinchu ani roju prarthana settunna ..
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Think what after 2012..
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Where do i start? How do i start?

Matham maarchukodaniki oka process vunnattu.. believer gaa maaradaniki ye defined process ledaa?

Help me please...

TIA !!
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