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     Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4859 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Dam current place decide chesindi Khosla committee, before AP formation, kaada? Asalu TN ki krishna waters pokunda udyamam chesi, dam kosam center ni pressurize chesi, nandikonda ki road kooda lekapothe vesi, 50lks (in those days this was a lot of money) sontha dabbu ichindi muktyal raja. So instead of blaming Andhra ppl, Telangana ppl should thank Raja of Muktyal. Arogyasree fans must watch | ||
| Okahyderabadi Side Hero Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 2012 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 65.110.17.142 Rating: N/A |
simply because that point is irrelevant because of the change in location the left canal would always be lower than what it was intended to be thereby reducing the outflow and hence the acreage that it would cultivate. In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4852 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
ee point ni ignore chesara? Arogyasree fans must watch | ||
| Okahyderabadi Side Hero Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 2011 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 65.110.17.142 Rating: N/A |
the same numbers were quoted in the assembly session many times which went no where.
The left canal was designed to support 7.95 lakh acres of land in Telangana+seema areas and 2.05 lakhs acres in rest with a water allocation of 161 TMC and 25 TMC. Currently this is the acreage - Telangana+seema - 5.32 lakh, other- 3.8 lakh acres. This was done by moving the project from its original site downstream, this resulted in lesser gravity for the regions in T and hence the reduction in ayacut. Right canal avute inka boothu for Seema people. Resulting usage of water 90 TMC for T&R and rest for downstream. In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4850 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
MBNR is more than 100kms upstream to the present location. 18Kms upstream lo kadithe MBNR ki ela use autundi. Water paiki veltaya? Google maps undi gaa kavalante chooskondi, the dam, and both the canals can be easily seen. Arogyasree fans must watch | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4849 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Dam design chesinappudu asalu AP state form avvaledu. Alantappudu idi merger problem enduku autundi?
I don't know about you, but if I look for call quality, I will look for those ratings, like wise, I will look for the numbers on that feature.
Why would I count it as 100%, in that case I will count number of schools based on population, or on a per village basis. On not even by number of schools, but by number of students graduating highschool to their population. Any case, I will use the same metric for both Andhra, and Telangana. If you know what you are looking for, and if you understand your data, numbers do speak the truth.
What I understand from the map of both canals I gave is that, the left canal does not help the krishna godavari deltas at all. Then why would they influence its design?. Left canal only served T, Kurnool and other lower dists. And more over, even if we agree that injustice has been done, this has been designed before the merger, hence this issue is totally out of context for the de-merger argument. Arogyasree fans must watch | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 6847 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
 actual location plan entane sagar water NLG,MBNR,KMM ki irrigation supply cheyalani kani location was changed and macherla benefitted hugely and MBNR lost out big time. | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4703 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
How much was the project command area with original design....what would have been tengana's share in it? | ||
| Okahyderabadi Side Hero Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 2010 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 65.110.17.142 Rating: N/A |
tammi mari anta EP's evaru leru ikkada In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Okahyderabadi Side Hero Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 2009 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 65.110.17.142 Rating: N/A |
parama boothu idi, the original damn was 18 km's upstream and that would have ensured plenty of water to T. We are lucky that after the changed design some water is getting by through to Nalgonda and other areas. This is a big engineering blunder or wilful subversion of the original design. There is no second argument on that. I am just
Project was conceived and designed prior to AP formation, so national project status does not arise. It became a national project later and even then the location got changed. why is it 70:30% the original design would have ensured more water to mahbubnagar district and other areas and it was definitely changed to accommodate the lobbies from delta no question about it. In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4702 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
coastal dist ki 14.5 lakh acres....telangana districts ki around 6.5 lakh acres...ratio is 70:30 percent....telanga ki 40% dakkali anukunte 2 lakh acres taggindhi telangana ki.....telangana vadula argument dam location marchi vundali ani kadha.....but that project is a national project like narmada....Narmada waters are being shared by four states though dam is at MP and gujarat border | ||
| Okahyderabadi Side Hero Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 2008 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 65.110.17.142 Rating: N/A |
You again quoted me out of context. What I am trying to explain is to interpret the ground realities with the statistics on hand and see how skewed they are. I gave an example of a village and a school just to make a point. The main problem with statistics is that people like favourable numbers to back up a decision. Ex when choosing an cellphone provided most people will choose the one with most customers or with the perceived quality of the phones they give out for free and it shows in the stats as the best provider because they have XX number of customers and have sold YY numbers in this year. Does that make them the best?, the statistics do not tell us what the connection reliability is what is their customer retention what is their call quality , customer service like etc. Just because a company is most popular does not make it the best kada. Take the example of schools, irrigation tanks, roads anything you name there is a a lot of disparity. If you talk about statistics it means nothing here because a) where there did not exist a single school for a group of villages a single school serves as a statistical figure of 100% and that shows as a number b) while in the other parts of the state there already existed such schools and then another school has started but the stats still show that as one number only( what about the schools that were already there?). As far as statistics go on both sides the number of new schools started is 1 but the ground reality is in Telangana it is only one school while other place it is the 6th or 7th such school to come in to existence. So that is ground reality i am talking about. c) the tanks, dams on the Telangana side were in ruins while the tanks in other parts were built, rebuilt in such a time span. The irrigated land actually went down in T area compared to the land in other areas. d) do not talk about development of Hyderabad and equate it as development of the whole region. In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4848 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
N Sagar lo T share andhra share kante thakkuva undi annadi ela undi ante, Singareni coal mines Telangana lone enduku pettaru, Andhra lo enduku pettaledu annatlu undi. Arogyasree fans must watch | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4847 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Link lo district wise undi choodandi. Aina it is stupid to look at this project in Andhra Vs Telangana sense. Endukante, project location geographical gaa, economical gaa most viable unna place decide chesaru. T lo water flows at a much lower level than land, about 1000ft lower. So natural projects kattaleru. They only can pump water. Arogyasree fans must watch | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4701 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
prastutam andhra share entha, telangana di entha? | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4846 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
mee numbers thappu anukunta. Official Govt. site lo idi undi Under Nagarjuna Sagar Right Main Canal and Left Main Canal, an ayacut of 10 to 11 lakh acres and 8.5 to 9.5 lakh acres respectively are irrigated during normal years. Monna okayana left canal lo T ki anyayam ante idey link ichanu. appati nundi thappinchukuni tirging. http://irrigation.cgg.gov.in/CompMaj/NagarjunaSagarBrief.htm And look at the location of the dam, it is almost at the edge of T, coz water flows well below the land level in T. In A, it is almost at the same level. So T ki water vastundi ante chala clever gaa design chesinatlu. Arogyasree fans must watch | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4700 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
water resources vishayam lo coastal andhra ki kooda peddaga emi chesindhi ledhu govt after independence ....Nagarjuna sagar lo oka kalava telangana ki oka kalava andhra ki veltundhi......telangana vadulu cheppinatu design maristhe telangana lo irrigated area entha perigedhi?....remember coastal+seema should get 60% share in proportion to it's population and revenue collection.....total irrigated area under sagar is around 14 lakh acres....60% of that is 8.5 lakhs what they got is 11 lakhs....telangana vadulu cheppinatu kadithe telangana share entha vachedhi? The project benefited farmers in the districts of Guntur, Prakasam, Krishna, Nalgonda and khammam. The right canal (a.k.a Jawahar canal) is 203 km long and irrigates 1.113 million acres (4,500 km²) of land. The left canal (a.k.a Lalbahadur Shastri canal) is 295 km long and irrigates 0.32 million acres (1294 km²) of land in nalgonda and khammam districts of telangana region. The project transformed the economy of above districts. 52 villages were submersed in water and 24000 people were affected. The relocation of the people was completed by 2007. | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4845 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Nagarjuna sagar issue enti cheptara? Arogyasree fans must watch | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 6846 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
what role ante em septham? Govt alays has a role to play no matter what. Inka N.Sagar and Sriram sagar and bias in distribution of water etc etc issues already discusses bro.. that topic is beaten death in this db.. will disco sometoher day. | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4698 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
granite khammam lo vunnatu vundhi.....limestone nalgonda lona? | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 6845 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
limestone,granite. | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4843 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
enti aa link ala undi? Private sector lo industries anni list chesi, evaru ledu antadu. Daniki separate state ki relation enti? T nundi evaranna industries pettaddu annara? Paiga Bangalore HQ unna GMR ni list chesadu. Papam US lo Telugu owned consultancy companies kooda list chesi, discrimination valla T vallu pettaledu analedu.  Arogyasree fans must watch | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4695 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
ivi accesible ga vunte govt to pani emi vuntundhi.....what role should govt play here...inka pedda projects antara Nagarjuna sagar lo water share tappa coastal ki kooda govt kattina projects emi levu
singareni coal kakunda inka emi vunnayi? | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4842 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
saaru, bias ekkada ledu mahaprabho antunna, mee vadana veedaru gaa. Poni daniki proof choopistara, ante ledu. Arogyasree fans must watch | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4841 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Totally fool proof ani cheppatledu. But, in many cases funds come in directly to district collectors. Purposeful gaa large scale lo regional basis meeda disc chese scene ledu. And, you did not answer my question about T MLAs, MPs, minsters etc.
I was addressing the regional feeling that one region is undermined in development at the expense of the other. The feeling that the existing system allows one region to be developed at the cost of another. This feeling has nothing to do with merging regions, or cultural disparities. Root cause: Centralized power. CM being the super power. Simple logic is that there can only be 1 CM. So this feeling will exist among district tomorrow, if not among regions.
No, I never implied about resources. I was talking about the state of the T region, and for that matter every region in the country. How can we say that we are prosperous if 5000+ schools in the state do not have a single teacher, and every health center is in a dire state like the one in my signature? So, it is all agreed that the state on the whole is in a pathetic condition, but, fortunately, there is no case for regional discrimination. Arogyasree fans must watch | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 6844 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
vja bro.. Water, fertile lands, mineral deposits ela natural reosurces baane unnayi.Kani utilisation varaku ochesarike, over the years bias chuyinchayi anni party govts. | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 6843 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
wow.. interesting. Idhi ela possible cheppu.. I mean I am surprised to learn that our system is foolproof.
the cause of this regionalism is merger of 3 diff regions...when de merger happens then how can there be any regionalism? I mean what would be the basis of such feeling then?
I didnt quite understand this statement.. do you mean to say Telengana is not rich in reosurces? If you are implying that then I am not sure from which statistics you derived your conclusion but you are way off. | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4693 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
emi resources vunnayi bro?......verela anukovaddu....i really want to know | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4840 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Last thing to add, is these facts, and figures no way suggest that Telangana is prosperous. They only suggest that there is no case of discrimination. I hope you understand the difference. Arogyasree fans must watch | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4839 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Even, for argument sake, we agree on this, the question for this is what are the 110 MLAs, CMs, ministers, central ministers, MPs, PM from T doing all these decades. Your answer will be the CM is not from T. Well, there can only be one CM. If he is going to be the super power, the same problem still exists. Only difference is that it is now among different regions, and different boundaries. So, de-merging the state does not solve it. It does not address the root cause of regionalism. Only empowered local Govts. at district level are going to solve it. If you think it does not work, look around, that is how it is in most of the democracies around the world, esply in the US. Arogyasree fans must watch | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4838 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Facts, and figures prove that this argument is bogus. period. I am not even including hyderabad in this comparison. And my interpretation of the numbers is strictly district by district, on how much each sector developed under the united state, how much was spent on education, health etc. etc in each district, what is the growth in each district. So do not say that numbers do not reflect reality. If interpreted in a proper way, they do. One area discriminated for decades and underdeveloped at the expense of other anedi boothu. Coz, fortunately the structure of governance we have does not allow for that. Yes, there is room for improvement, and that is not drawing new state boundaries and creating new power centers, but empowering local Govts. Arogyasree fans must watch | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 6842 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
IR.. T lo villages (most of them) were rich in resources and the focal point of the complaint from T vaadulu is that, govts irrespective of party and idealogy have deliberately undermined develoipment at the expense of other areas in A.P.. adi gamininchagalavu.. You cant compare T villages with underdeveloped villages in rest of the country..endhukante konni states lo overall dev index low undhi so obviously aaaya states lo villages lo developemnt undadhu..inka konni states lo villages are low in resources so definite they are at disdvantage.You cannot club all villages in one basket and compare them. | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4837 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
} annai I just do not get it, how can statistics be just figures? For eg. 5000+ schools in AP do not have a single teacher. For me this figure is shocking. As shocking as the situation in the village you described. Two regions Andhra VS Telangana compare chestunnamu. Alantappudu meeru oka school example ichi, a school makes a whole difference, ante, yes I am not denying. It does make a whole difference. Kaani I can give the same saga for a village not just in T, but also in A, and R, ani cheptunna. Comparison lo, motham T lo, or atleast district wise compare chestamu. Dayaneeya stithi lo unna oka village example ichesi, anduke T was the biggest loser ante, does it make any sense, when such villages are there all over the country?
Gumpu lo govinda ani Loksatta ni kalipesaru gaa. LSP never said that they are for or against T. My posts in this thread, clearly reflect the views of LSP. JP's report to SKC videos unnayi choodandi opika unte, you will understand how much depth is needed in analyzing the situation. Coz, this is not just about Telangana, or Andhra. This is about our system, with powers concentrated with one individual. Hence, the feeling that one region is discriminated, if the CM does not belong to it. Arogyasree fans must watch | ||
| Okahyderabadi Side Hero Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 2007 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 207.61.241.100 Rating: N/A |
tammi, meeku statistics ante just figures ani artham ayyindi so there is no point in arguing about it. when we agree to interpret statistics with ground reality then we can discuss anything meaningful( no condescending attitude here please, just my thoughts} In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4834 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
mahaprabho if the situation is the same in every mandal, it will clearly show in the statistical data. But that is not the case. Okka village enti, oka 10 villages teesukuni nenu kooda gundelu pindagalanu. Arogyasree fans must watch | ||
| Okahyderabadi Side Hero Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 2006 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 207.61.241.100 Rating: N/A |
take village by village it forms a taluk/mandal and mandal by mandal forms a district and each district forms the state. problem ni mandal after mandal replicate cheste mottam region backwardness ki contribute chestadi. deeniki pedda statistician avanavasaram ledu tammi. we just need to extrapolate the statistics with the happenings on the ground and we would know what is the progress made. In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 5497 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.89.186.226 Rating: N/A |
What data you are talking about? Planning commission report clearly acknowledged the disparities. Moreover, do we even need data? Just see around how many cities are there in T that even come closer to cities like vizag, vjavada, guntur, machilipatnam, kakinada and nellore? If you take Hyd out, nothing remains in T. I already said this is not just one factor. There are other factors too. Moreover, mana intlo vallu manalni discriminate cheyyadaniki bayativallu cheyyadaniki difference undi. Hyderabad lo Kalisi bathukuthunnappudu mutual respect vundaali...anthe kaani hyd lo vundukuntu telangana valladi teluge kaadu ante etla? | ||
| Okahyderabadi Side Hero Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 2005 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 207.61.241.100 Rating: N/A |
okko bottu kaliste vagu avutadi, okko vagu kaliste cheruvu aitadi, oko cheruvu kaliste nadi aitadi.. saga of each village in telangana is the saga of the region. it might be the same in other areas and i am not disputing it however telangana area is the bigger loser here anedi is something that will be agreed by all committees. In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 18844 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
Brother, DB lo seperate T antay.....oogi pothu, boothulu thiduthooo...one minute tharuvaatha...pakka thread lo cong/tdp/prp/bjp/LokSattha/ bajana chesthey....etlaa mari? Those all parties supported it and these folks still support those parties and comeback and critisize T people and T leaders. If anyone says, KCR is *****, let us be fair and call state Cong/TDP/PRP and other leaders as D ****** I have no issue....and many of T folks in this DB have no issues anukunta. | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4833 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
annai ala anukunte North vallu south movies ni, music ni, culture ni chala sarlu geli chestaru. Separate country adagala? Cultural differences ni artham chesukokuna US lo vallaki culture ledu ani, ikkada females dressing gurinchi comment chestaru. How is drawing new state boundaries a solution for that? Asalu Andhra aney word ni Telangana side kooda baaga use chesevallu idivaraku, to refer to Telugus. If I am correct, T lo unnavallu konthamandi kalisi Andhra Maha Sabha ani kooda pettaru. Alantidi ippudu Andhra anedi Telangana lo boothu maata aipola? Arogyasree fans must watch | ||
| Methhanithodugu Side Hero Username: Methhanithodugu Post Number: 5940 Registered: 12-2008 Posted From: 59.93.89.231 Rating: N/A |
Brother you are on a right path good thread ... there are2 dimensions I can see from a 40,000 ft .. 1. Andhra People had to migrate and fight for new business as their regions Business/Scope Saturated and they had and Investment/Guts/Hardwork with those Creamy Ultra Rich ....Capitalistic Andraites Flourished  2. Telangana People mostly Backward were under Bhooswaamulu/doralu who never used to part their land / Kovulu or used to create business or migrate or work ...they used enjoy ...meanwhile uneducated and weak minded Telangites from all Sections never Invested they used be labors from Mahboob Nagar to Adilabad in Constructions etc in Bombay ,Banglore etc ... They are drunkards anedi oka pedda trash ... There might very slight synergy among these but never was highlighted... Rayalseema Business men target Madras and Banglore . | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4832 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Annai, I don't know about your background. You are talking about two regions here, not a village. So you talk development in terms of two regions. Deeniki individual examples don't make sense. period. And, for every village without school in Telangana, you can find one in Andhra, and Rayalseema period. Arogyasree fans must watch | ||
| Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 5496 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.89.186.226 Rating: N/A |
THammud - I too don't like using words like "dochukunnaru" etc. Developmental disparities ki fundamental ga politicians ee kaaranam...But cultural disparity vishayamlo maathram i personally many times experienced discrimination...i think every T-ite would experience at least once...anthenduku...ee DB lo ne monna T telugu is inferior ani konthamandi vaadinchaaru... | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4831 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
I agree with all of this. But, if the data shows that there has not been any discrimination towards T in the combined state how can a de-merger fix it? Problem solely lies in the system in which MLAs who are supposed to be lawmakers only became the power centers. CM became the super power. Repu T form aina same situation. CM will have all the powers. He can discriminate among districts as he likes. OKasari US lo ela undo choodandi system. Even during a huge even like 9/11 the defense secretary only asked the Mayor if they can do anything. They did not assume control of the city. The Mayor was in control. Only local Govts. are the solution to regionalism. Ivala Telangana, Andhra antaru. Repu uttara Telangana, dakshina Telangana, Uttarandhra antaru. Choodatleda? What is it going to change? Arogyasree fans must watch | ||
| Simpletruth Comedian Username: Simpletruth Post Number: 1068 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 71.255.234.26 Rating: N/A |
1971 lo intha kanna majority vachindhi TPS ki. Sonia nai ante 1 year lopala anni sardukuntayi | ||
| Okahyderabadi Side Hero Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 2004 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 207.61.241.100 Rating: |
flow lo vellu ante tappu unda brother? i thought it means you have your views i have mine and you can continue but brain, culture lanti topics ravatam not correct. I would try to be more careful from now on before i say things like 'flow' etc. if they dont there is no meaning to it. Consider that statistics need to reflect practical reality . i.e life on ground and not just be a numerical reflection of theory of life in the ether, if they are to be useful to the people. If the need of a village is a school then a school being built there makes a whole lot of difference, it creates a generation of children going to school and pursuing higher studies and if it is not built it denies opportunity and that is not reflected in statistics because it just gives one number existing or not but not the cost of not having that one number in the statistics. In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4830 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
YSR ki, CBN ki, KCR ki teliyaka kaadu mastaru. They want something to rally people around. Lekapothe ppl basic needs kosam rally autharu. Appudu valla accountability ni question chestaru. So, they need some issue to rally ppl around. Something that they cannot take responsibility of. Kaani chaduvukunna peddavaru aina Oka mastaru lanti varu kooda statistics tho em chestamu ante, em cheptamu. Arogyasree fans must watch | ||
| Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 5495 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.89.186.226 Rating: N/A |
And remember recently another strong factor has emerged i.e. the stupid games played by politicians. Andaru T ki pro gaa matlaadi tharuvatha hand ichaaru...evvadikainaa kaalthadi ala chesthe...aa chidambaram fella dec9th roju alaa cheyyadam was last nail in the coffin...ippudu no return policy la unnaru T-ites andaru. | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 18841 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
Intha chinna vishayam....YSR ki, CBN ki, chiranjeevi ki, cpi M ki, cpI ki, Chidhambaram ki, Sonia ki thelvadhu how can a common man in T knows? | ||
| Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 5494 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.89.186.226 Rating: N/A |
Let me give you a simple analogy here. T and A merger was like asking a 10th failed candidate and an MBA gold medalist to compete for a scholarship. The disparity is very wide influenced by many factors. The problem is multifaceted - cultural, educational, geographical etc. Thats why the gap is very wide. The disparity between two districts is like competition between a 10th one one time failed and another two time failed candidates for the same scholarship. The margin is not deep and serious. Even if the differences are serious, it will be easier to fill the gap with relatively lesser efforts. | ||
| Ustad Side Hero Username: Ustad Post Number: 3762 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 76.173.42.79 Rating: N/A |
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| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4829 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Annai you are talking as if the Central Govt. and YSR tried their best to initiate the 2nd SRC process. Aina 2nd SRC vestamu ani oka state lo oppandam cheskovadam enti, adey peddha boothu. SRC ante anni states ki affect autundi, it is a national issue, daani meeda okka AP lo ela pothu pettukuntaru? Arogyasree fans must watch | ||
| Guriginja Hero Username: Guriginja Post Number: 13777 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 97.81.101.254 Rating: N/A |
manifestolo telangana ani pettar? I don't thin so....KCR 2nd SRC ani santham chesina document kuda release chesaru media ki...appudu sariga sadavakunda santham chesanua ani seppadu KCR. JOHAR YSR.....YSR AMAR RAHE | ||
| Guriginja Hero Username: Guriginja Post Number: 13776 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 97.81.101.254 Rating: N/A |
2nd SRC ani santham chesina vaallu and ayana selikadu adhe central govt lo ministers..we don't want 2nd src we want only separation ani modalettaru kadha sir. JOHAR YSR.....YSR AMAR RAHE | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4828 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
2nd SRC veyalsindi central Govt. Aa basis meeda pothu pettukunte veyachu gaa right after elections? Enduku ala cheyaledu? Arogyasree fans must watch | ||
| Okahyderabadi Side Hero Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 2003 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 207.61.241.100 Rating: N/A |
manifesto la pettindi toocha? delhi la jarigindi endo meeku telisinatte cheptunnaru ga? assmebly lo enni sarlu TRS raised the issue of Telangana before they resigned do you know? In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Ruj Side Hero Username: Ruj Post Number: 2740 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 76.17.165.117 Rating: N/A |
 T ivvatam sababaa..kaada.ivvani charchine mundara..10ela nundi okadu taruvatha okadu..mem T istham ante mem T istham..SRC veyistham..bill pettistham..bill peduthe madhatu istam etc ani vaagaru...oka charcha emi lekunda andharu adhe batana poyaru..kevalam aa karanam meedha ayina T ivvali..kaani ee TRS OU Jac laa matal vinte ekkado kaali malli chachina T ivvakooodadu ra babu anipistundhi..even though T movement is much greater than TRS or OU JAC,but these r the people who r leading..adhe baadhaCongress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4827 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
At the cost of ani enduku adigaru? There are clear numbers on how much Govt. spent on each sector in T region, and in the Andhra region. There are clear numbers on by how much each sector increased in each region. None of them show that T was discriminated in any sense. Ika Mahbubnagar lo asalu college ledu, Nalgonda lo drinking water ledu, ilanti individual cases teesukosthe, Andhra lo enti, India motham lo konni vandalu cheppachu ilantivi, inthakante ghoramainavi. Arogyasree fans must watch | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4826 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Statistics lo basics teliyani valli ala conclusions draw chestaru. Ground reality ante enti, T lo oka village teeskoni akkada okka college kooda ledu, andhrollu dochestunnaru anatama? Statistics choodakapothe holistic view ela vastundi? Why should not statistics reflect ground reality? Arogyasree fans must watch | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 6836 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 146.115.51.3 Rating: N/A |
When you say you are a supporter of Telengana then you are by default a supporter of KCR and OU JAC.. idhi default ani db juntha decide chesindhi eppudo.. inka meeru i dont support KCR or I dont support OU JAC ani enni disclaimers ettina patinchukoru. once you say you support seperate T you are one of them anthe.. | ||
| Guriginja Hero Username: Guriginja Post Number: 13774 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 97.81.101.254 Rating: N/A |
OK sorry....nee flow lo nuvvu vellu ani nannu first kindal ga annadhi meere kadha...nenu kaneesam mimmallni quote chesi kuda post cheyyaledhu..just posted my views....so ne flow lo nuvvu vellu ani antene flow vasthundi bedar...lekunte radhu...anyway sorry i take back. JOHAR YSR.....YSR AMAR RAHE | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4825 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
LOL...ippati daka development annaru, ippudu cultural disparities aa? Cultural disparities ekkada levu, rayalseema, Andhra madhya leva? Disparities in development gurinchi nenu matlada ledu. Problems with having CM as the power center gurinchi cheppanu. Enti annai, why is it so difficult to understand that the situation will be the same if the same power centers are maintained? Discrimination ki district enduku basis avvakudadu. Anthenduku YSR CM ani, avasaram lekapoina pulivendula lo 6 lane road veyinchaleda? Adi discrimination kaada? Inkaa cheppali ante, Hyd's multiplied development in the last two decades at the cost of other cities is also an offspring of power revolving around the CM. CBN ki interest undi, Hyd meeda concentrate chesadu, migatha cities vadilesadu. Arogyasree fans must watch | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 18839 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
Yup...No Second thoughts about it. But last 10 yrs nunchi...okasaari cong, monna tdp, and prp...Everybody said, T backward, T ki anyaayam jarigindhi, we are for seperate T Now, andharoo U turn thirigithey....frustrate kaavadam natural. But as you said, dhaaniki oka paddhadhi untundhi, OU sannasulu follow kaavadam ledhu. | ||
| Guriginja Hero Username: Guriginja Post Number: 13773 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 97.81.101.254 Rating: N/A |
haha...2004 election mundhu 2nd src OK ani santhakam chesindhi KCR....appudu sadavakunda sesanu ani kuda seppadu tharuvatha...election mundhu 2nd src ki santhakam chesi...elections taruvatha..no 2nd src only separate state ani start chesindhi KCR and co...aayanni adagandi where is 2nd src ani. JOHAR YSR.....YSR AMAR RAHE | ||
| Okahyderabadi Side Hero Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 2002 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 207.61.241.100 Rating: N/A |
brother we can both have our points but do not get personal on things like this. In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 18838 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
2 posts ago....Hyd got naalugu buildings... After 2 posts....Infrastructure...OK I did not say...only T people should use it. Yevo naalugu building antay....I asked whether you know it or not. Just to confirm it. Building khaaliga eppudu levu. | ||
| Okahyderabadi Side Hero Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 2001 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 207.61.241.100 Rating: N/A |
Agreed In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Okahyderabadi Comedian Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 2000 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 207.61.241.100 Rating: N/A |
check your congress manifest tammi. 2004 lo ennika ayite 2009 varaku time dorakaleda tammi Second SRC veyyadaniki? where is the SRC declaration tammi? siggu lekunda oka region ni inko region ki pitt chesindi congress govt to come back in to power. i do not support KCR but I support the demand for Telangana. In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 5493 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.89.186.226 Rating: N/A |
However, I vehemently oppose OU JAC idiotic tactics of physically assaulting innocent people and professors and damage to public property. Students should behave like students, not rowdies. There are much better ways to protest. | ||
| Okahyderabadi Comedian Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 1999 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 207.61.241.100 Rating: |
this is bad i dont think anybody should say so and I do not agree with them and no sane person would. ok tammi, mee arguments continue cheyandi, i think there is no meeting point.
 same argument again. road leni chota oka road kadite 100% development ani choopistayi statistics. adi okkate development ante etla tammi? statistics should be seen with ground realities and the human cost of development should be measured.In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Guriginja Hero Username: Guriginja Post Number: 13771 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 97.81.101.254 Rating: N/A |
LOL...LOL...intha pacchi abaddalu aduthu malli disco LOL..YSR was out right against alliance with TRS....and YSR kaadhu yekanga congress party ne said ONLY 2ND SRC....NEVER SAID THEY WILL GIVE TELANGANA......2ND SRC KI OPPUKONI SANTHAKAM CHESI MARI SIGGULEKUNDA MATA MARCHI MATLADUTHUNDI KCR......CONGRESS NEVER PROMISSED TELANGANA AS A PARTY...NOT EVEN TODAY....TDP IS THE ONLY PARTY THAT GAVE IN WRITING SUPPORTING TELANGANA.......DON'T TWIST FACTS. JOHAR YSR.....YSR AMAR RAHE | ||
| Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 5492 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.89.186.226 Rating: N/A |
This is exaggerated cynicism. It is impossible to abolish disparities in development completely. Remember how and why this whole issue started. T and A were distinctly two separate regions before independence under two different constituencies or presidencies. As okahyderabadi mentioned in his earlier posts, the educational, cultural disparities between these two regions were distinct and tangible. They knew these things during merger and that's why committees were established to study the effectiveness of merger. Further, they neglected to implement whatever the promises after the merger which were made before. Its a problem that has been accumulated over decades. | ||
| Guriginja Hero Username: Guriginja Post Number: 13770 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 97.81.101.254 Rating: N/A |
ha ha super logic....state appude form ayyindi desame appude tappatadugulu vesthundi....ee roju hyd laga kurnool ayyundaala....LOL...hyd is no exception to any other capital city of any other state.....brain ni gulab jammon lekka kcr syrup lo munchithe anthe...meeru kuda mee flow lo continue avvandi......LOL JOHAR YSR.....YSR AMAR RAHE | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4824 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
so what. Infra undi ani state capital ki use chesukunnaru. Lekapothe taxes paid by T ppl kabatti, buildings khali gaa vadileyala? Hyd was 5th biggest city, but enjoyed only by Nizam and his clan. Ppl were pathetically poor. Arogyasree fans must watch | ||
| Okahyderabadi Comedian Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 1998 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 207.61.241.100 Rating: N/A |
Here is the whole list N sanjiva reddy - 1956-1960 Sanjivaih - 1960-1962 Sanjeeva Reddy - 1962-1964 kasu bramhanadra reddy 1964-1971 PVR - 1971-1973 Vengal Rao - 1973-1978 chenna reddy -1978-1980 anjaih - 1980-1982 Venkatram - 1982-1982 Kotla - 1982-1983 NTR - 1983-1984 Nadendla - 1984-1984 NTR - 1984- 1989 chenna reddy - 1989-1990 Nedurumalli - 1990-1992 Kotla - 1992-1994 NTR - 1994-1995 CBN 1995-2004 YSR 2005-2009 you figure out of the whole number of years. The issue is how much development happened in T in all these years except in hyderabad,i am sure same can be said for some areas in seema and andhra and I have no issues with it. I do have an issue with people just not recognizing the fact that Hyderabad was already well off infrastructure wise before the merger but the same can not be said of all the other areas in T after so many years. In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 18837 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
From ? | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4823 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
oka 4 buildings tho, city development ni assess chestunnara, too good. Hyd city was one of the biggest, yes. But built at the cost of back breaking taxes collected by Nizam. Arogyasree fans must watch | ||
| Ruj Side Hero Username: Ruj Post Number: 2739 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 76.17.165.117 Rating: N/A |
bhayya ivanni ok kaani...indulo andhra valu Telangana valani dochukundi emundi??? 1956 merger appudu T nayakulu veti gurinchi bhayapadaro avi nijam ayyindhi nedu..T people were not able to compete with Seema n kostha people in equal numbers..daniki meeru cheppina vshayalee karanam..kaani indulo dopidi emundhi? Andhra valu dongalu ela ayaru?.is this not heights of racism...avakaslu unapudu teesukokunda..let us leave this for a T person ani tyagalu evaru chestharu??? anthenduku repu T form avuthe people from waranga karimngar r going to dominate in everything..adilaad mahbubnagar nalgonda etc valu atalo arati pallu avuthaadu..again daniki education etc karanalu..whatever it is..abhivrudhi kosam T de-merger ante peddha issue undedhi kaadu. of course seema n kosta people are not ready to let it go easily becuase of hyd factor..pundu meedha karam laga ee T activists andhra valani dooshinchatam maree darunam.. Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat | ||
| Kadapanagfan Legend Username: Kadapanagfan Post Number: 30018 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 75.187.116.77 Rating: N/A |
congress nunchi baba garu http://a.imageshack.us/img826/9392/picture6e.png | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4822 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
simple logic, India democracy essence idey aithe, it is the strongest counter argument to separate T state. Why? CM will be the power center in the separate state too. So, the same discrimination will exist between uttara telangana, and dakshina telangana. Between Hyderabad, and some other district, depending on from where the CM is. Discrimination ki Andhra, Telangana regions enduku basis avvali. District enduku avvakudadu? Arogyasree fans must watch | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 18836 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
After Nadendla episode and fresh elections, I think NTR also completed 5 yr term | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 18835 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
Kurnool capital gaa unnappudu...some govt building were run from the tents. In 1950's itself, Hyd was the 5th largest city in India It is 5th even today also. | ||
| Kadapanagfan Legend Username: Kadapanagfan Post Number: 30016 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 75.187.116.77 Rating: N/A |
T nunchi Jalagam Vengal Rao Andhra nunchi Kasu bramhananda Redddy seema nunchi YSR http://a.imageshack.us/img826/9392/picture6e.png | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4821 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
innocent ga act chestundi meere annai. Repu T form aina, CM power center authadu. Malli 110 MLAs vadi mundu chetulu kattukoni nunchuntaru. Vadu vadi district ni develop chesukuntadu. Appudu kooda Andhra vallane karanam ani KCR antadu. Meeru tandana anandi.
Deeniki separate state ki relation ledu. KCR CM aina adey chesevadu. period. Meeku CBN Telangana vadu kadu ani oka reason dorikindi. Fact enti ante, the problem is corruption, not Andhra, or Telangana.
Meeru facts cheppandi, mari. T lo situation ye difference undadu, ante enduku undadu antaru thappa, different ga undataniki okka reason cheppara? I gave you two why it won't be different.
Statistics emi Andhra vallu puttinchaledu. Fortunately manaki Dept. of statistics, surveys etc, central Govt. lo unnayi. Lekapothe adi kooda aneyvallu. They were all based on Govt. data. Mee Telangana athane discrimination in development boothu ani cheppadu. Velli aayana meeda padipoyi kottadam thappa, okka proper argument ledu with facts, and figures to counter him. Arogyasree fans must watch | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 18834 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
Jana Priya...Ravinder Reddy dhi anukunta | ||
| Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 5491 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.89.186.226 Rating: N/A |
Very well said. Single person oriented politics are the essence of Indian democracy. Locally elected representatives are responsible for the constituency development anedi daarunamaina boothu. If that is the case why all the 7 of northeastern states are still undeveloped compared to others? mottham 7 states lo koddi mandi kooda efficient MLAs or ministers leraa? | ||
| Mamamiya786 Side Hero Username: Mamamiya786 Post Number: 5479 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 74.190.119.172 Rating: N/A |
Pennar group of industries , My home Cements and builders , prajay builders , janapriya engineers ivanni pakka T owned ....They are good companies..billoion dollors kaka poinda industrialists kinde lekka. Chidl Marriage Bhruna Hatya tho samanam -- vinoba bhave. | ||
| Simhapuri_kurrodu Comedian Username: Simhapuri_kurrodu Post Number: 1467 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 76.109.130.86 Rating: |
how many nonTelananganite Congi CMs enjoyed a 5 year term?(but for ysr) | ||
| Okahyderabadi Comedian Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 1997 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 207.61.241.100 Rating: |
meeru nijamga either innocenga act chestunnaro leka realities ni ignore chestunnaro teliyatam ledu, continue avvandi enduku? endukante hyderabad chutto prakkaloo vela ekaralu konesi pakkane infrastructure develop cheste kotlu dandukovachani kada. ade kuppam lo cheste daniki value ravadaniki inko 30 yrs padutundi. meeru cheppeve facts , migita valu cheppevi nonsense ante etla tammi? proper premise paina division ante entidi tammi? nenu kooda ade antunna tammi, meeru cheppeve statistics vere vallu cheppevi anni boothu ante etlane? idi probably true but they realized that rate of return in hyderabad was lot better than if they invested in other areas and hence they did what they had to In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Okahyderabadi Comedian Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 1996 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 207.61.241.100 Rating: |
tammi nuvvu flow lo continue avvu alane. kurnool lo ade unte akkadike velle varu kada. 1948-1956 akkade unnaru kada, mari appudu ralede E thought? Hyderabad already had all government buildings and a well developed building infrastructure - the legislative assembly that is used now, the high court, the railway stations it had the infrastructure and that is why the merger was planned and executed. You are right, if any other place was made a capital it would have probably developed in the same way but it would not be at the expense of other areas. How can you explain the large scale looting of the treasury by successive governnments. Why have the CBN's,muralimohan,ysr, jagan, lagadapati, devendar goud, rayapati, annam, sabitha reddy, pjr, TSR to name a few people who looted the lands around the capital? where is the development in other areas except Hyderabad? do not show figures , where there was no road a road built is 100% development. That is not the development that people have asked for. Monnatiki monna 2004 lo YSR TRS tho enduku pottu pettukoni T istam annadu tammi? what has happened after that? I still do not understand the reason behind saying no to T. If T happens and Hyderabad becomes the capital it is just another state like karnataka with bangalore as capital. So how is it going to be different? Mumbai, parsi, ambani all that case is different brother, the merger of the two erstwhile states have happened based on agreements that were signed by the leaders on both sides and those agreements have been successively violated and led to imbalance in development. brother , ade mana state lo issue, as recent as last year YSR was the chief minister, did anybody have the guts to argue with him and get funds for projects? If he gave it was out of his wish and if he did not want then already approved and executed projects were also modified to suit his needs. I have given number of examples about this previously also. In our political system CM is the most powerful and there is no counter to it. About the CM's - in 54 years of the state's existence CM's from Telanaga Vengal rao ( khammam ) 5 - considered more andhra than T Chennareddy - 2 + 2 anjaih -2 yrs pvr - 2 yrs out of the CM's that were from telangana, vengal rao was the only time a CM' from telangana was allowed 5 years and what followed was an able administration with many developmental works undertaken. every other CM that followed had to knowtow the power brokers and when PVR went against them he was removed from power by the central leadership under pressure and moved to center. In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4817 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: |
ilanti simple question adigithe, development kaadu athmagouravam antaru. 110 MLAs, MPs, state ministers, central ministers, Prime ministers untaru Telangana nundi. Kaani vallu antha Andhra leaders mundu chetulu kattukuni ninchuntaru. CBN lanti CMs emo kuppam lo kooda cheyani development, Hyd lo chestaru, aina malli reverse lo A valle karanam Arogyasree fans must watch | ||
| Guriginja Hero Username: Guriginja Post Number: 13750 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 97.81.101.254 Rating: N/A |
aa lekkana meru kuda kadha...  JOHAR YSR.....YSR AMAR RAHE | ||
| Guriginja Hero Username: Guriginja Post Number: 13749 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 97.81.101.254 Rating: N/A |
 prathi jillalo vela acres aquire chesaru.....yendo hyd okkate chesinattu chepthunnaru...nellore lo reliance vadiki 4000 acres or so iccharu....gujju gadini tharamali inka....LOL JOHAR YSR.....YSR AMAR RAHE | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 18832 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
True Indian is also from Warangal. | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4816 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Taruvatha inequal development undi annadi totally baseless. Not even a single fact proves that, but it only proves otherwise. Idey mata ante, aathmagouravam ani start chestaru.
Madapur, Gachibowli lo mathrame land acquire chestonda Govt. Monna Sompeta lo kooda acquire chese godava chesaru kada. Deeniki separate T state ki relation enti. Repu separate T form aithe asalu land acquire cheyara, industries pettara?
Why should I not be worried. If a state is to be divided, it should be done on a proper premise. If a proper study shows that people will actually be benefited from that. Why should I not have a problem if arguments are being made on the basis of lies, and whims of somebody, but not on facts?
Deeniki separate state ki relation ledu. Ramoji film city pedithe, it is T ppl who get benefited from it. Asalu Rajagopal, Ramoji, all the Govts. betrayed whole of AP, for the sake of Hyd. Deeniki andaru Hyd meeda edavali, not the other way. Arogyasree fans must watch | ||
| Guriginja Hero Username: Guriginja Post Number: 13748 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 97.81.101.254 Rating: N/A |
I think infotech mohan reddy is fro telengana, so are the owners of cbit and MGIT, I think the ramky group owners are also from telangana...not sure. JOHAR YSR.....YSR AMAR RAHE | ||
| Guriginja Hero Username: Guriginja Post Number: 13747 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 97.81.101.254 Rating: N/A |
andhra rastram yerpadakamundu nadras stae lo telug people wereon par with tamilians, hetels, movies, etc nusinesslu teesukunna....telugodu akkada yela chesadu ani aramollu anadam vinaledhu.....same way....gold business teesukunte small towns lo kuda gold business is done more than 90% by marwadis/gujarathis...nellore lanti town lo gold market is entirelry in the hands of maradis...aadu yevvadu ikkadadaki vacchi dochesadu..mana vyaparanni ante veera comedy.....capital yekkadunte akkadaki velthau janalu........capital srikakulam or amudala valasa ayyunte...it would have been exactly at the same stage of today's hyderabd.....and this phenomenon is common to any captal/city...mumbai lo ambanis dochukunnaru, tatas lanti parsi dochukunnaru ante navvipotharu. JOHAR YSR.....YSR AMAR RAHE | ||
| Rangoon Junior Artist Username: Rangoon Post Number: 112 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 202.184.206.127 Rating: N/A |
first manthralu tahantralu chesthe manisini nasanamu cheyechu ani nammi jannalanu chanputhunnaru. vallani educate cheyyamani cheppali leaders. | ||
| Jalsa Moderator Username: Jalsa Post Number: 14398 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
brother, meeru cheppedhi anthaa baaney undhi. But, Telangana nunchi CM ayina vaallu leraa? or ministers? Vallu emi cheyaledhu endhuku mari T region ki. Please pardon my ignorance, but repu elect ayye vallu kooda veelley kadhaa ani. | ||
| Okahyderabadi Comedian Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 1995 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 207.61.241.100 Rating: N/A |
we are talking of AP after merger tammi. Nizam govt 1948 lo ne poyindi so if anybody should be held accountable for inequal development it is the successive govt's that came in to power and administered the unified AP. The promise of the new state was agreed upon equitable development and opportunity to people in Telangana and that has not happened. kandlu teripinchinav tammi nijanga. the madapur's, the gachibowli's did not happen in decades they happened in few years and the area was acquired in the last few years. valla badhalu evo vallu padutaru tammi why do you have to worry about it? A separate state does not mean a different country it is after all same thing like investing in Bangalore or chennai why should it be any different? On the contrary both areas will have additional opportunities to develop the infrastructure etc if this division happens now. mari inta innocent enti tammi meeru. Emmar, SEZ's lanco land, satyam, Ramoji film city ivanni last few years lo ayinavi not 30 years ago In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 5487 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.89.186.226 Rating: N/A |
 post 1991  | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4814 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
You should blame it on the Nizam rule then, not even on the Govt. Coz, facts suggest that the Govt. spent equally, and that there was equal development in all sectors in both regions. Arogyasree fans must watch | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4813 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Yes, there is not one many reasons. 1. Even with the de-merger you are talking the same system, in which all the power is concentrated with 1 CM, and few ministers, and MLAs. You cannot have a CM from every district, hence the case of discrimination still exists. 2. Ippudu unna T MLAs, MPs appati laage money spend chesi elections lo elect autharu. Same cycle of corruption continues.
Corruption ki de-centralization ki relation enti. We already have publicly elected reps at district level, and town level. Only thing is to give them more powers, than making the MLA responsible for everything. Indulo antha impractical, idealistic thing emundi? CM maa area vadu kaadu anduke maaku anyayam jarigindi, ide gaa root cause ofthe problem. Repu idey argument vastundi even with separate T
enti rates penchedi. Overnight rates pencheste evaru kontaru? Rates perigindi over the decades, coz of the development in Hyd. And the largest benefactors are T farmers coz of the land rate boom. T vallu chesedi enti ante, eppudo 30yrs kinda Govt. money pay chesi, land theesukuni edo industry pettindi. Appudu chakkaga money teesukunnaru. Ippudu after 30yrs, present real rates calculate cheskuni, appudu maa lands cheap gaa dobbesaru antaru. nonsense. Arogyasree fans must watch | ||
| Okahyderabadi Comedian Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 1994 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 207.61.241.100 Rating: N/A |
 nuvvu continue ammaIn history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Ravino786 Hero Username: Ravino786 Post Number: 12410 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 75.184.107.152 Rating: |
ee sollu and ee attitde walla telangana ralehu ,,,repu wastadhi, wachina taruvatha kuda edhe edupu continue ithe sanka naki potaru... Immigrats are allwa hardworking, Bombaylo anni bssiness lu still are owned by Gujrathi's ...Madras lo karnataka lo considerable amout lo telugu wallu bussiness chestunaru...rest bussiness anagane ooty daka nellore wallu pettuknaru, agriclture ki waste maharastra, assam, kerala lo andra rithulu vvasayam chestunaru ...asalu 100+ years back brits andra nundi sugarcane pandinchadaniki coolies ga andra nundi teesukellaru west Indies ki .... adanru evari paridh lo wallu kastapadutunru....Unnadhi service industry jobs ekkuva pay jobs anni software lo ...last 10 years nundi andra lo chduvukunna telangana lo chaduvukunna finally hyd lo job... any way attitude change kavali pakkodi meedha edupu apali Rajanna Amar Hai. | ||
| Okahyderabadi Comedian Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 1993 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 207.61.241.100 Rating: N/A |
meeku cyclic factor arthamavatam ledu. With no schooling and facilities to study how can you expect any Telangana person to be educated enough to qualify for the job? When the areas under Madras presidency already had schooling system well advanced and then under the various governments there were number of schools and colleges constructed in that region churning out educated people where is a chance for people from Telangana to study and compete. Mix it with the people already occupying positions of power in the industry/institutions and affiliations and then see how the rest of the positions get filled up with people from that side. It has happened systematically over decades and not overnight. Just ask your parents when they moved to Hyderabad and surrounding areas and why and your answer is right there. Majority of people moved to hyderabad because of a job. why did the people from telangana not move there if there was equal access and opportunity? In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Okahyderabadi Comedian Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 1992 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 207.61.241.100 Rating: N/A |
Thanks for bringing up a valid point. Yes there will be one CM but the people do not have to be under the thumbs of few where any representation would not safeguard their interest. Simple example : Nijamsagar dam which is about 100 years old is is complete state of neglect. There has been complete disregard to the needs of repairing it and also desilting it for past 15 years. This has resulted in the dam being completely useless to the farmers in Nizambad.At the same time there are more than 50 projects that were taken up and completed downstream. There are many such other examples. If the funds for the new state are properly utilized then it would definitely develop. The guarantee factor is not there anywhere but we cannot say that it will not happen again or will not happen. The reality is it has happened for 50+ years and there is no way it will not continue to happen. Is there any reason to believe it will exactly this way? Why cannot it be the other way? kallu moosukoni palu tage pilli prapanchaniki emi telusu le anukuntundi. Decentralization of governance, politics to district levels lantivi vindaniki chala baguntayi idealistic ga, not possible in the present conditions with so much corruption around. equal kada sp it should be 50-50 right? how is 80-20/70-30 equal? development ante lands ni notify chesi farmers ninchi cheap ga konesi taruvata alignments avi marchi rates penchesi overnight millionaires avadama? Emmar, GVK, GMR, Narne laga? In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4681 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
I think it's superficial to say that andhrites formed a lobby and controlled all the resources and recruitments....if that is the case first of all they would have lobbied for setting up all the public sector industries in rayalaseema which is rich in natural resources....there might be bias at a personal or employee level in recruitment....but again it's there all over india....if some telanganite occupy an executive post he is more likely to recruit a qualified telanga guy compared to qualified coastal andhrite....ofcourse in many cases it even boils down to caste, class or bribes. most of the industries are central public sector units and recruitment is opened to any qualified person in India my fundamental question which is relavent even today is how rest of telangana mainly backward areas can develop without any significant resources. | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4810 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Avi anni facts aina, vatiki T under developed anna daniki relation ledu. We do not have a system that can discriminate based on region. Asalu Andhra valla discrimination valla T underdeveloped annadi pedha boothu Arogyasree fans must watch | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4809 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Yes, but how is the de-merger going to solve this problem? Even then you will have power controlled in the same hands. So it is going to be the same story again.
If a central institute comes to the state, it it not fair to say that everybody in the state should have an equal right of employment in it. I know you will say that T region provided land for it. It did, and hence it is enjoying all the economic development that comes from that central institute. Even if T is formed, under the current system, there can only be 1 CM, and there can only be so many ministers. With all powers concentrated with them, there is no guarantee that they will do equal justice to all districts. So, the case for development with de-merger is a faux, and power de-centralization to the district level is the only solution. Arogyasree fans must watch | ||
| Jalsa Moderator Username: Jalsa Post Number: 14393 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
vammo intha anti undhaa. Good to know these facts about merger. | ||
| Okahyderabadi Comedian Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 1991 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 207.61.241.100 Rating: |
vjvasi your intention is good. the reasons are many , emanna ante edustaru chata kadu ani comments vastayi. The reasons put forward when the two erstwhile state's were merged were totally valid but due to some last minute strings pulled the merger happened. 1. Madras presidency from where the Andhra state was formed had formidable advantage in terms of education and exposure to the business world by being educated in the schools and colleges run by the British in the presidency. 2. They had exposure to commerce and had well established business in the areas. 3. The class system was simplified to a large extent and there was no patel/patwari system that kept the major population pretty much suppressed. 4. The education levels in the telangana area was dismal with the very few who were educated studied in urdu medium schools etc. 5. The natural advantages you spoke about - fertile detla with major water sources available year round contributed to the affluence of the people in the area there. 6. seema was faction ridden and they found a way to get their way out due to that background where as the erstwhile telangana folks never had that kind of background. 7. the very fact that the majority of the people who found jobs immediately after the state of AP was formed was from the Andhra side of the state was a catalyst in people migrating and moving around to Hyderabad in a huge scale. This has continued in many such waves whenever a public sector company or for that matter any industry was setup here in hyderabad. Take a sample of people who are working in any public sector, govt agency in hyderabad I guarantee you more than 65-70% of them would be from Andhra side. ECIL, NFL, BDL, IDPL, HMT, State Secratariat, HUDA, GSI you name it. 8. Any private industry formed followed the same trend to begin with, the trend might have changed a bit in last few years. I can go on and on but again emanna ekkuva raste rivers batch , unskilled people lazy people ani comments vastayi.
where there are resources there are opportunities and where there are opportunities there is development. The reason why the backwardness of other areas in telangana should be apparent to you no? if the power, the wherewithal to disburse funds, the areas of development is controlled by few people then how do you expect things to develop? Every project that was conceived during the pre-merger period was changed to suit the needs of the ruling elite. The saving grace was creation of central and state institutions in the capital Hyderabad BUT the employment went to ????? you know who. So except for few places the areas in T remained same. Itla cheppukunta pote chana vastayi. Inequality of development in T area is the reason for all these problems and it cannot be rectified in any other way but de-merger. In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4671 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
kontha varaku correcte....education,business lo coastal andhrites ki early lead vundhi......madras ki access ekkuva vundatamu helped them a lot....alage delta areas lo irrigation projects, natural ga vunde adavantages helped them.....kaani andhra lo telangana kalapakunda vundi vunte telangana lo swargam vundedhi ane argument wrong antunna....coastal andhrites migration only hyd ke parimitham.......telangana backwardness ki valle karanam aithe coastal andhrites leni telangana minus hyd enduku develop kaala? | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4669 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
I think telangana andhra to kalapatam valla economic ga benefit ayyinda ledha ane question pakkana pedithe nasta povatam aithe jaragaledhu......even Hyd lo pettina public sector units lo central units ee ekkuva...vaatilo recruitment national level lo vuntundhi.....i don't deny that some of the andhrites look down on people from telangana region.....but telangana elite kooda coastal andhrites to peddaga kalavalani try cheyyaru anukunta.... | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4668 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
nenu matladatledhu.....atla matlade vallani question chestunna | ||
| Abhysg Side Hero Username: Abhysg Post Number: 3583 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 71.127.227.159 Rating: N/A |
lot of people believe he encouraged people working in IDPL to do research in IDPL labs and send formulas to Dr Reddy's. after idpl collapse they joined in Dr Reddy's with good pay.. my uncle used to tell abt this | ||
| All_mix Moderator Username: All_mix Post Number: 16729 Registered: 02-2009 Rating: N/A |
nenu offensive ga analedu annai...business lo ability undakapovachu annanu...nothing derogatory or offensive... in general PAWAN movie chudakapote navvutaru kada bayata..like u cannot ignore tirupathi balaji..aa type lo : Jp_rocks any hurricanes/tornadoes/tsunamies in the next coupla months will be named POWERSTAR : Jp_rocks | ||
| Kadapanagfan Legend Username: Kadapanagfan Post Number: 30004 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 75.187.116.77 Rating: N/A |
Ila matttadakandi!!!ila matttadam vallley valllu ala tayaru ayyaru http://a.imageshack.us/img826/9392/picture6e.png | ||
| Ruj Side Hero Username: Ruj Post Number: 2737 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 76.17.165.117 Rating: N/A |
mama indulo rajakeeyalu unnaya..T valani tokkesara? naaku telidhu...kaani on a high level naaku telisindhi idhi..seema kostha valu vyaparam cheyatamlo vipareethamga aritheraru..manaki swatanthram raka mundhare nunde..andhra(not AP) erpatu avvaka munde..madras presidency kinda unapude chenni coimbatore varaku telugu valu(seema,kostha valu) vipareethamga unde valu vyaparalo.. on the other hand T valu nizam rajarikam kindha unde valu.. akkada padindhi framework..asalu T ni Alo kalapataniki enno charchalu jarigayi..ivvani appatlo charchaku vachayi..how T was lagging in all aspects Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat | ||
| Kadapanagfan Legend Username: Kadapanagfan Post Number: 30003 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 75.187.116.77 Rating: N/A |
Anji reddy di T kaaadu He spent his early years in the village of Tadepalli near Guntur in Guntur District, where his father grew turmeric. Reddy graduated from the local high school and went on to get his first Bachelor of science degree from A.C. College at Guntur in 1958.[3] Thereafter he, did his B.Sc.-Tech in Pharmaceuticals and Fine chemicals from Bombay University followed by a Ph.D. in chemical engineering from the National Chemical Laboratory, Pune in 1969.[4] [edit] http://a.imageshack.us/img826/9392/picture6e.png | ||
| Scorpio Junior Artist Username: Scorpio Post Number: 313 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 98.247.200.216 Rating: N/A |
okkaru kuda leka povtam surprise... and it shows lot of things...lack of will, lack of education, lack of discipline... okkaru kuda lekapotrhe, they have to blame themselves.. nenu observe chesindi...naa friendlo...no offense...dicpline chaala thakkuva..every weekend complete wiskey/brandy pparties...gambling...savings very less...andhra friends very careful and planned in spending... Telangana isthey ilanti problems ela solve chestharu? But my friends are from telangana.. | ||
| Scorpio Junior Artist Username: Scorpio Post Number: 312 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 98.247.200.216 Rating: N/A |
Reddy's labs Telangana nunchi kada? Ippativaraku Nalgonda anukunna...athani janmasthalam ekkado cheppandi? | ||
| All_mix Moderator Username: All_mix Post Number: 16728 Registered: 02-2009 Rating: N/A |
may be...undi undakapovachu... in general PAWAN movie chudakapote navvutaru kada bayata..like u cannot ignore tirupathi balaji..aa type lo : Jp_rocks any hurricanes/tornadoes/tsunamies in the next coupla months will be named POWERSTAR : Jp_rocks | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4667 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
3.5 cr telangana vallalo okkaru kooda capacity vunna vallu lera?.....atleast 100 of acres vunna bhuswamula background nundi kontha mandi aina vundali ga.... | ||
| All_mix Moderator Username: All_mix Post Number: 16725 Registered: 02-2009 Rating: N/A |
inability kuda ayyi undochu... in general PAWAN movie chudakapote navvutaru kada bayata..like u cannot ignore tirupathi balaji..aa type lo : Jp_rocks any hurricanes/tornadoes/tsunamies in the next coupla months will be named POWERSTAR : Jp_rocks | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4666 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
ikkada point telangana seperate avvala vadda ani kadhu....industrialists list lo telangana nundi okkaru kooda enduku leru....reasons enti? | ||
| Kdnumber1 Side Hero Username: Kdnumber1 Post Number: 6396 Registered: 02-2009 Posted From: 68.32.178.244 Rating: N/A |
Ippudu T vaste....ivi anni T vallavi ayi potaaya........... | ||
| Kadapanagfan Legend Username: Kadapanagfan Post Number: 30002 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 75.187.116.77 Rating: N/A |
Yedupu Tapppa yem ledu http://a.imageshack.us/img826/9392/picture6e.png | ||
| Ruj Side Hero Username: Ruj Post Number: 2735 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 76.17.165.117 Rating: N/A |
wrong thread Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat | ||
| Ruj Side Hero Username: Ruj Post Number: 2733 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 76.17.165.117 Rating: N/A |
intha senseless janalu intellecuals peru meedha tirigestunaru free ga..hindu corporate state anta..ela??? how?? notiki ee term vasthe adhi vadeyatame.. indirect ga maoists are trying to implement the constitution while govt is breaking it anattu chebutondhi...chass... Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4662 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
http://ourtelangana.com/content/andhrarayala-seema-business- numbersshocking-news Telanga nundi enduku leru.....vooga kunda samyavanam patinchi discuss cheyyandi...real reasons |
