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Mental_sachinodu:

i have ruffled some feathers here



for the record .. you did not .. you never did that with me !
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Kamal:

while there is some sense of imagination in ur argument .. the same, I agree, is present in my argument .. however .. we both can agree upon one thing .. that the roots of the term "Indoi/Indica" etc .. are not in India .. atleast .. Greeks pettaru ani aithe clear avutondi kada .. now .. vaallu invaders aa kaada anedi secondary question .. why do we have this fascination to own/lap up anything foreign .. ??? poni ademaina correct aa ante .. ledu .. Sindhu ni .. noru tiragaka .. khaima kotti .. India/indoi/indie chesaru !




though not related directly to the topic. noru thiragakapovatam anedhi correct kadhu bro, every language and script has its limitations and a base form of pronouncing basic sounds. this is the reason for names getting changed when it is transliterated into other languages. For example, Alexander - anedhi greek name, kani it is recorded as isikander in sanskrith, and other indian languages in history. it is not because our ancestors could not pronounce his name. in those days, transliteration was done both by meaning and the sound of the name, rather than just rewriting it based on sound. over times, this notation moved purely to notations.

remember the arguments about brahma, abraham, sarai and sarayu(saraswati), linguists consider that the scripts of those days had these differences. for that matter, abraham is still called ibrahim in arabic, david as dawood and so on. this transformation was not purposeful or meant to be negative, in those days.

eppatiko endhuku, there are some sounds in malayalam that you cannot write in telugu, or kannada. that is just a limitation of the script.


Kamal:

17th century tellodu vachi .. babu memu inka India antamu anenta varaku asalu idea leni word adi .. avuna kada?



how sure are we that we do not know that we are referred with a different name?


Kamal:

They have obeyed my law. Medea... Arachotia (Harauvatish), Sattagydia (Thatagush), Gandaria (Gadára), India (Hidush)...."



hidush was the name given by darius. bracket lo rasindhi old name, bayata rasindhi later popular names bro.

nuvvu ichina linka lo india ani undhi. adhi choodu. India given by herodotus - whose accounts of india are the most earliest by a foriegner.

next was megasthenes ani undhi, we all know megasthenes and chandgragupta mourya had great terms of trade and other cultural exchanges.




Kamal:

I am out of this now .. pronounce ur verdict ..




nenu verdict pass cheyatam emiti, it looks like this thread has gone personal, and i have ruffled some feathers here. I'll stay away from this thread.
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Cocanada:

We are no Baburs and Ghajinis to be proud of our past



they cannot be proud either .. they invaded other lands and shameless ate from their plates .. even if u forget the large scale raping/killing

Cocanada:

We should be ashamed of our civilization's past.



not really .. we have done well, on an average scale, not to lose our faith, roots and culture to some extent .. but this can never be a reason to stop ourselves from cleansing the blackmarks on our history .. every country did that .. now its our turn and we should not be apologetic at all ..
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The only way we can provide a fair ground to minorities in India is by forgetting our thousands of years of legacy.

We should be ashamed of our civilization's past. We are no Baburs and Ghajinis to be proud of our past
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Mental_sachinodu:

India ante badha padavalasina avasaram ledhu ani naa feeling




baadha ani cheppanu kaani.. nenu dhanni sontham seskolenu.. alavaatu ayyipoyyi english lo india and regional languages lo bharath anukuntu manalani manam mosam seskuntunnamu ani naa feeling.. idhi purely naa feeling
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If we name India as Bharat, it makes us a hindu country.
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//IindÃ?a in Byzantine (Koine Greek) ethnography denotes the region beyond the Indus (ἸýôÃ?Ã?) river, since Herodotus (5th century BC) ἡ Ἰýôùúî Ã?Ã?Ã?÷ "Indian land", ἸýôÃ?Ã? "an Indian", from Avestan Hinduá (referring to Sindh, and listed as a conquered territory by Darius I in the Persepolis terrace inscription). //



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naaku charitra meedha pattu ledhu.. naa point antha Bharath ante naadhi anna felling.. may be sinnappudu naa mind meedha padda mudhra kaavochhu..




Bharath ante manadhi ane feeling naaku kooda undhi bro, but India ante badha padavalasina avasaram ledhu ani naa feeling, rest of the arguments are just off shoots anthe.
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Anand_n:

What was that name ?



Mental_sachinodu:

Ok, another thing, if india was an important trade destination during pre-alexander times, what was india referred to as? Indio ane term form kaaka mundhu there must have been something else that they used to refer us, right?



yaa .. how r we so sure it was Indoi itself??? it 'could' have been something else .. like for example .. "Indo" or "Borat - misspelled for Bharat" ..

while there is some sense of imagination in ur argument .. the same, I agree, is present in my argument .. however .. we both can agree upon one thing .. that the roots of the term "Indoi/Indica" etc .. are not in India .. atleast .. Greeks pettaru ani aithe clear avutondi kada .. now .. vaallu invaders aa kaada anedi secondary question .. why do we have this fascination to own/lap up anything foreign .. ??? poni ademaina correct aa ante .. ledu .. Sindhu ni .. noru tiragaka .. khaima kotti .. India/indoi/indie chesaru ! manaki daanni .. 17th century tellodu vachi .. babu memu inka India antamu anenta varaku asalu idea leni word adi .. avuna kada?

btw .. invaders ee coin chesaru first anataniki proof istunnanu choosuko ..


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c. 486 BC Hidush Naksh-i-Rustam "Says Darius the King: By the grace of Ormazd these (are) the countries which I have acquired besides Persia. I have established my power over them. They have brought tribute to me. That which has been said to them by me they have done. They have obeyed my law. Medea... Arachotia (Harauvatish), Sattagydia (Thatagush), Gandaria (Gadára), India (Hidush)...."




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_India

This is the link I got it from .. check for the section .. "Some Historical definitions" - check the first entry .. and yes .. frank ga oppukunta .. if I feel something has a relation to a not-so-respectful history of our country .. I do not like it and would not want to associate with it at a personal level .. daaniki .. i ppl want to call me names .. ur welcome to do so !!! no issues with that ..

I am out of this now .. pronounce ur verdict ..
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Mental_sachinodu:

take it ez bro




parledhu le bro.. manam antha koddi sepe.. u guys continue..

naaku charitra meedha pattu ledhu.. naa point antha Bharath ante naadhi anna felling.. may be sinnappudu naa mind meedha padda mudhra kaavochhu..
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Netra:

dhanni right way lo seyyali saar.. etta padithe atta sette nuvvaiana nenaina attane react avuthaamu..




take it ez bro, nuvu humorous ga annavemo anukoni, nenu ala respond ayya. but nee next post choosi, i realized i was wrong.
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Pomegranate_life:

and eventually end up with actual name.

Do you later in life referred by your name or your pet name?

Places veru kids veru ante , you need to add a disclaimer




LOL - Good one :-) I know too many people who got stuck with their pet names way into adulthood - infact many of my husband's extended family does not know his official name :-)But point taken :-)

Still would like to know the trading name for India prior to Alexander :-)
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Anand_n:

Cool ga alochinchandi - denikaina peru eppudu pedataru ? When you first come in contact with some entity .




Motham chadavaledu. just contradicting this post. Cool ga India lo new born kids ki perlu eppudu pettaru? Start with kanna , chanti , munni , bangaru konda .. and eventually end up with actual name.

Do you later in life referred by your name or your pet name?

Places veru kids veru ante , you need to add a disclaimer :D
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_India#India

//IindÃa in Byzantine (Koine Greek) ethnography denotes the region beyond the Indus (ἸνδÏÏ) river, since Herodotus (5th century BC) ἡ Ἰνδική ÏÏÏη "Indian land", ἸνδÏÏ "an Indian", from Avestan HinduÅ¡ (referring to Sindh, and listed as a conquered territory by Darius I in the Persepolis terrace inscription). //

//Sanskrit indu "drop (of Soma)", also a term for the Moon, is unrelated, but has sometimes been erroneously connected, listed by, among others, Colonel James Todd in his Annals of Rajputana. Todd describes ancient India as under control of tribes claiming descent from the Moon, or "Indu" (referring to Chandravanshi Rajputs) and their influence in Trans-Indian regions where they referred to the land as IndusthÄn.//



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Kamal:

invaders term sesina padam .. "Indoi" ani .. adi alexander aa kada .. naaku 100% telvadu ..




Cool ga alochinchandi - denikaina peru eppudu pedataru ? When you first come in contact with some entity .

Greek trade with India was happening 2 centuries before Alexander...

Oka desam to 200 years vyaparam cheste aa desaniki antu oka peru vadakam lo undi untundi kada. What was that name ? Alexander ki kotta peru pettalsina avasaram enduku vachindi antaru ? Does that sound logical to your mind ?
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Kamal:

anna .. naadi twisting annaav .. malli nannu proofing sesukomantunnav enti? naadi tist ani proof seyyalsindi nuvvu kada?

btw .. nenu sadivindi .. invaders term sesina padam .. "Indoi" ani .. adi alexander aa kada .. naaku 100% telvadu .. passion, pride, prestige, pullakura pans memu .. saminchu .. naaku link dorikithe pirst neeke istha !




please go back in the thread. Indio ane term greeks coin chesaru ani nenu post chesaaka, nuvu indio was termed by alexander during invasions ani post chesavu, so i thought you were twisting my earlier statement. i take back my statement regarding twisting it.

also, please understand that there are multiple people arguing here, and each post is not directed to every body.

When you dont agree that the name might have been given before alexander, and say that it was coined by during alexander invasions, nuvu cheppindhi correct ani migatha vallu ela accept cheyali without proof.

Ok, another thing, if india was an important trade destination during pre-alexander times, what was india referred to as? Indio ane term form kaaka mundhu there must have been something else that they used to refer us, right?
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Kamal:

ante .. kurrol decide sesaru .. memory book ki history book ki teda telikunda disco dance settunna ani .. mari wrong steps este judge saaru ki samapanalu seppaali kada ..




iyanni dheniki thammi.. Bharath ante we are proud and adhi correct word ani andhariki telusu.. kaakunte opukoru janaalu.. okariki explain seyyalsina pani lene ledhu.. naaku india ante bahu siraaku and bharath antene baaguntadhi.. kaani emi chesttamu..
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Mental_sachinodu:

i was just try to chill down a little




dhanni right way lo seyyali saar.. etta padithe atta sette nuvvaiana nenaina attane react avuthaamu..
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idhendhi samapanalu??iyyi dheniki??



ante .. kurrol decide sesaru .. memory book ki history book ki teda telikunda disco dance settunna ani .. mari wrong steps este judge saaru ki samapanalu seppaali kada ..

Mental_sachinodu:


no problem bro, mean while you also try to prove that it was coined during alexander invasion, not prior to that.



anna .. naadi twisting annaav .. malli nannu proofing sesukomantunnav enti? naadi tist ani proof seyyalsindi nuvvu kada?

btw .. nenu sadivindi .. invaders term sesina padam .. "Indoi" ani .. adi alexander aa kada .. naaku 100% telvadu .. passion, pride, prestige, pullakura pans memu .. saminchu .. naaku link dorikithe pirst neeke istha !
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Netra:

emi bro.. sattirelaa??nenu seppindhi nee sinchukovadam gurinsi.. romaala dhaaka pomaaka.. nenu inko post romaala meedha esaanu ante disgusting thota koora katta ani nuvvu inkodu vachhi nee antha decent ledu ani naaku class peekudu shuru avuthaai..




ok dude, take it easy. i was just try to chill down a little. if you feel uncomfortable with my posts, please ignore, and i will do the same. nenu neeku class peekalsina avasaram ledhu, nuvu naaku peekalsina avasaram ledhu.
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Mental_sachinodu:

pakka vaala romaal gurinchi kooda alosinchinandhuku tks




emi bro.. sattirelaa??nenu seppindhi nee sinchukovadam gurinsi.. romaala dhaaka pomaaka.. nenu inko post romaala meedha esaanu ante disgusting thota koora katta ani nuvvu inkodu vachhi nee antha decent ledu ani naaku class peekudu shuru avuthaai..
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Kamal:

anna .. fine .. naa twisting ni link etti disprove seyyi .. samapanalu aduguta ! flzz .. ee thotakura katta matalu enduku manaki ..




idhendhi samapanalu??iyyi dheniki??
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nuvvu india ante sinchukunnattu naaku ee peru tho padithe aa peru tho pilistte nilabadavu le bro..




pakka vaala romaal gurinchi kooda alosinchinandhuku tks :D
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Mental_sachinodu:

nuvu bharath kaka pothe, inko peru tho piluchuko, nee romaal nikka poduchukuntayi ante.




nuvvu india ante sinchukunnattu naaku ee peru tho padithe aa peru tho pilistte nilabadavu le bro..
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Kamal:

anna .. fine .. naa twisting ni link etti disprove seyyi .. samapanalu aduguta ! flzz .. ee thotakura katta matalu enduku manaki ..




no problem bro, mean while you also try to prove that it was coined during alexander invasion, not prior to that.
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try cheyyandi.. jai bholo....... bharath maata ki Jai




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Netra:

naakaithe pride bochhu bhee kanipisttaledhu.. when i say Bharath maatha ki Jai dhaanakka vonto romaalu mottam nikkaboduchukuntaai.. when i say long live india vontlo elu kooda paiki leyyadhu

try cheyyandi.. jai bholo....... bharath maata ki Jai




ok bro, if its a personal choice i cant comment. nuvu bharath kaka pothe, inko peru tho piluchuko, nee romaal nikka poduchukuntayi ante.
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aa mukka direct ga anesthe oka pani ayipothadhi. dhaniki pride, passion, history, patriotism ani kathal seppatam dheniki. dhani lo negative emi leka poyina, migatha ee logic leka poyina, ishtam ledhu ante ayipoyindhi kadha.

india ante pride ledhu, patriotism ledhu, history ledhu ani logics dheniki.



anna .. fine .. naa twisting ni link etti disprove seyyi .. samapanalu aduguta ! flzz .. ee thotakura katta matalu enduku manaki ..
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most important naaku mantraalu chadivetappudu sinnapati ninchi jambhu dweepe bharath khande ani sadhivinattu gurttu..

i will be so proud when some one addressed me as bharateeyudu not indian like red indians.. chuss
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Mental_sachinodu:

india ante pride ledhu, patriotism ledhu, history ledhu ani logics dheniki




naakaithe pride bochhu bhee kanipisttaledhu.. when i say Bharath maatha ki Jai dhaanakka vonto romaalu mottam nikkaboduchukuntaai.. when i say long live india vontlo elu kooda paiki leyyadhu

try cheyyandi.. jai bholo....... bharath maata ki Jai
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evado pilisindhi official name endhi annadhi maa vaadhana?? manaku oke oka official name undaali.. adhi bharath ani memu teermaaninchaamu..




aa mukka direct ga anesthe oka pani ayipothadhi. dhaniki pride, passion, history, patriotism ani kathal seppatam dheniki. dhani lo negative emi leka poyina, migatha ee logic leka poyina, ishtam ledhu ante ayipoyindhi kadha.

india ante pride ledhu, patriotism ledhu, history ledhu ani logics dheniki.
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anna .. kindal chestunnava? bagundi .. indaka posts lo ala anipinsaledu ..




iddo anumaanam gaa soosaavu ante naa vaipu mayawathi kooda soottundhi.. suitcase teeskoni aa party loki pothaa..

i am damn serious ittanti ishayaallo... nenu bharatheeyunni ani seppukonte garvam kaani indian ani seppukonte emosttadhi.. tarvaatha ee tellodu manalani tribes ni soosinattu sootte tarvaatha manam asian indians ani seppukovaali..
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evado pilisindhi official name endhi annadhi maa vaadhana?? manaku oke oka official name undaali.. adhi bharath ani memu teermaaninchaamu..



anna .. kindal chestunnava? bagundi .. indaka posts lo ala anipinsaledu ..
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Anand_n:

Historical evidence adigaru...Trade relations and travel between India and Greece far predated Alexander's invasion..may be as early as 6th century BCE..Here's one artifact that proves the connection...



naaku telusandi .. Bharat ki .. Greece ki pre-Alexander time lo ne relations unnayi ani .. nenu adigindi .. any link .. that says that .. "India or Indoi" is a term that is not coined by invaders or say traders .. something conclusive .. I never questioned whether or not our country had trade relations with Greece prior to the Alexander invasion .. !
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Vjavasi:

not 100 different names used in 100 countries



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India ante tappu annaru ani discussion




evado pilisindhi official name endhi annadhi maa vaadhana?? manaku oke oka official name undaali.. adhi bharath ani memu teermaaninchaamu..
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Anand_n:

India ante tappu annaru ani discussion




rendu perlu dheniki.. okka peru unte saalu kadha??

manam english lo bharath maatha ani ela raasttamu?? India mother or India maatha?? ala raayalenappudu malla india ani inko peru dheniki??
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"India and Bharata are equally official short names for the Republic of India"





Our official name should be only our original name....not 100 different names used in 100 countries
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Kamal:

alexander invasion kante munde Indoi ane peru vaadutunaru .. its not a term invaders coined ani ..




Historical evidence adigaru...Trade relations and travel between India and Greece far predated Alexander's invasion..may be as early as 6th century BCE..Here's one artifact that proves the connection...

http://www.ancientcoins.biz/pages/owl/

Netra:

eti ippudu Bharath ani ante thappa??




Ani evaru analedu - India ante tappu annaru ani discussion :-)
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Vjavasi:

we want india to officially assciate with it's original name






"India and Bharata are equally official short names for the Republic of India"

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original name enduku use cheyatledu mahasaya. English lo raase tappudu India ani vadatharu, Hindi lo, Telugu lo raase tappudu Bharat ane vadatharu. India ani hindi lo rayatam chala thakkuva choosa nenu. Mana roots ni marchipo koodadu kabatte, Bharat ani specific gaa mention chesaru, in the constitution. Time pass kaka godava thappithe inkoti ledu anukuntunna.


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eti ippudu Bharath ani ante thappa?? evadanna bharatha maatha ante kummi denxxkuthaa.. india mother or india maatha ani anandi inka inchi..

telugu lo prathigna sadhuvuthaamu.. bharatha desa saarvabhomuthvanni kaapaduthaamu ani inka sadhavoddu india desa saarvabhomuthvam ani sadhuvudhaamu.. chuss.. idhi kooda argument ee naa??
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Mental_sachinodu:

yes, name and meaning adhe, kani English and other european languages lo vere peru undhi, we were identified with that name from centuries, from BC era, what is need to disassociate ourselves from that name? Isnt it part of our history?




we are not asking European countries to disassociate with names in their languages.....even we call china as cheen....greek as unani..we want india to officially assciate with it's original name
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Mental_sachinodu:

endhuku itta twisting sethunnar?



annai .. telivi lenodini .. naaku telisinanta varaku ani clear ga mention sesa .. aina sare .. ledu .. nenu twisting sestunna antava?

sare kaani .. link ettu .. alexander invasion kante munde Indoi ane peru vaadutunaru .. its not a term invaders coined ani .. nenu moosukuni .. neeku, Indiarocks and others ni samapanalu adigi side aipotha !!! twisting sese antha ledu naaki .. invaders coin sesaremo ani opposing anthe innaallu !!!
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Kamal:

Indoi was first coined in Alexander invasion in BC era ..




Indoi first coind in Alexander invasion kaadhu, India was already a popular trading destination by the Alexander reached India. endhuku itta twisting sethunnar?


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adhe chepedhi mana name vadilipetti evaro piliche name manam official ga use cheyyatam enduku?...meeru kindha ichina list lo majority bharat ane word ne use chestunnaru kadha...valla language ki taggatu internalize chesukunnaru...but name and meaning adhe kadha



yes, name and meaning adhe, kani English and other european languages lo vere peru undhi, we were identified with that name from centuries, from BC era, what is need to disassociate ourselves from that name? Isnt it part of our history?
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Annai akkada history ki memory ki, history book ki mana intlo photo album ki theda teliyatledu. lite anukuntunna.



anna .. neeku unnanta intelligence ledu naaku .. plzz kindal cheyyaku .. naaku telisinanta varaku .. Indoi was first coined in Alexander invasion in BC era .. and he wanted to conquer and enslave India .. I really do not feel good about a name .. that is simply a memorabilia of the by-gone bloody era .. ledu .. whatever it is .. we were fuxcked up in the past .. we have to be called by the same name .. ante .. nenu hands up ..

lite teesukovalante lite teesuko .. kaani kindal seyyaku banchan !
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Mental_sachinodu:

India ane term british vallu ivvatam enti, adhi eppati nincho undhi. even alexander time ke india ane vallu, as a cultural entity, though each kingdom was refferred by its local name again. kingdoms like Ganderites, Praesii, magadha were referred by local names, but in general all these kingdoms were identified as indoi in greek.




adhe chepedhi mana name vadilipetti evaro piliche name manam official ga use cheyyatam enduku?...meeru kindha ichina list lo majority bharat ane word ne use chestunnaru kadha...valla language ki taggatu internalize chesukunnaru...but name and meaning adhe kadha
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Vjavasi:

we came to know the existence of such a name after being colonized by british....so, it's a colonial name....it's not the question wether the name is british or not...why can't we use our original name in all official communications is the question....it's as simple as that...




India ane term british vallu ivvatam enti, adhi eppati nincho undhi. even alexander time ke india ane vallu, as a cultural entity, though each kingdom was refferred by its local name again. kingdoms like Ganderites, Praesii, magadha were referred by local names, but in general all these kingdoms were identified as indoi in greek.
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Vjavasi:

history ni evaru neglect cheyyaleru....adhi gelupaina votami aina....ikkada question oka colonial name ni pattuku vedalsina avasaram enti when you are independent and sovereign....atleast we can call ourselves with our original name




Official names to our country in various languages
Assamese - Bharot Gonorajya
Bengali - Bharotio Projatontro
Bhojpuri - Bharat Ganarajya
English - Republic of India
Gujarati - Bharatiya Gantantra
Hindi - Bharat Ganarajya
Kannada - Bharata Ganarajya
Kashmiri - Hindustan
Konkani - Bharath Ganarajya
Malayalam - Bharatha Maharajyam
Meitei (manipuri) - Bharata Ganarajya
Marathi - Bharatiya Prajasattak
Nepali - Bharat Ganaradzya
Oriya - Bharatha Ganarajya
Punjabi - Parat Gantantar
Sanskrit - Bharata Maharajyam
Sindhi - Bharat Ganarajya
Tamil - Intiyak Kutiyarasu
Telugu - Bharatha Gantantra Rajyamu
Urdu - Jumhuriyat-e Bharat

Indoi was name given by greeks to use during their trades. Europeans have always called us indians(depending on their local language, meaming people of the indus), colonial rule or not.
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Vjavasi:

we came to know the existence of such a name after being colonized by british....so, it's a colonial name....it's not the question wether the name is british or not...why can't we use our original name in all official communications is the question....it's as simple as that...




original name enduku use cheyatledu mahasaya. English lo raase tappudu India ani vadatharu, Hindi lo, Telugu lo raase tappudu Bharat ane vadatharu. India ani hindi lo rayatam chala thakkuva choosa nenu. Mana roots ni marchipo koodadu kabatte, Bharat ani specific gaa mention chesaru, in the constitution. Time pass kaka godava thappithe inkoti ledu anukuntunna.
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India anedi British coin chesina word aa, was it forced on us by the British? Kinda roots enti ani disc jarigindi gaa, ika colonial name ela autundi?





we came to know the existence of such a name after being colonized by british....so, it's a colonial name....it's not the question wether the name is british or not...why can't we use our original name in all official communications is the question....it's as simple as that...
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Vjavasi:

history ni evaru neglect cheyyaleru....adhi gelupaina votami aina....ikkada question oka colonial name ni pattuku vedalsina avasaram enti when you are independent and sovereign....atleast we can call ourselves with our original name




India anedi British coin chesina word aa, was it forced on us by the British? Kinda roots enti ani disc jarigindi gaa, ika colonial name ela autundi?

Mental_sachinodu:




Annai akkada history ki memory ki, history book ki mana intlo photo album ki theda teliyatledu. lite anukuntunna.
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ee thread inkaa saaguthundaa
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Mental_sachinodu:

Otami ninchi nerchukovali, gelupu gurinchi dandora eyyaali anedhi kaadhu matter .. inka aa otami lo jarigina struggle ki emi value untundhi. what about the kingdoms who valiantly fought those wars against islamic kings, what about the british india struggle? if anni ee rakamga failures? matladithe mana glorious history ani garvanga cheppali antaaru, kaani mana history lo konni parts odhileyaali antaaru, endhukante avi manalni weak ga chesthayi ante, emi cheppagalam.

ok, ikkada question are we not called Bharath today? are we not hindustan today?





history ni evaru neglect cheyyaleru....adhi gelupaina votami aina....ikkada question oka colonial name ni pattuku vedalsina avasaram enti when you are independent and sovereign....atleast we can call ourselves with our original name
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annai .. to put things in perspective .. personal level lo .. oka manishi ki otamulu/gelupulu rendu untayi .. evaraina edi gurtu pettukovaali anukuntaru? nenu aithe gelupu ne .. otami nunchi lessons matrame nerchukunta .. kaani kanipinchina prati vadiki nenu appudu ala darunam odipoya telusa ani cheppukovadam/gurtu cheyyadam choodaledu .. same way family teesuko .. intlo subhakaryalu/chavulu rendu untayi .. kaani photo albums, videos teesi memories laa unchukunedi subhakaryale .. chedu kaadu .. AFAIK ..




Otami ninchi nerchukovali, gelupu gurinchi dandora eyyaali anedhi kaadhu matter .. inka aa otami lo jarigina struggle ki emi value untundhi. what about the kingdoms who valiantly fought those wars against islamic kings, what about the british india struggle? if anni ee rakamga failures? matladithe mana glorious history ani garvanga cheppali antaaru, kaani mana history lo konni parts odhileyaali antaaru, endhukante avi manalni weak ga chesthayi ante, emi cheppagalam.

ok, ikkada question are we not called Bharath today? are we not hindustan today?
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I fail to see the connection between using India for our country, and failing to recognize Bhagat Singh properly.

I fail to see the connection between the name India, and the British Raj. The name was not coined by the British. The name was not forced on us by the British.
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Kamal:

why do you people always put this kind of argument forward only when one particular set of people put forward something related to an intangible like respect and pride ..??




Which particular set of people - this is a Congress initiative, right - mee BJP vallu initiate chesinavi kuda ilage react ayyanu anukunta When have I ever supported superficial measures like this over real development ?

Independence taravata cheyyadaniki ee roju after 63 years of independent self-rule cheyyadaniki difference ledu anukunte , yes we can spend the next 300 years erasing the past 300 instead of building the future...


Kamal:

we should go back to Bombay from Mumbai and let people play Ganesh bhajans in English .. then there would be no law and order problems anukuntunna !




I did not know people were singing Ganesh bhajans in English when it was called Bombay and switched to local languages with the name change - you made my day :-)

What tangible/intangible benefit did the name changes bring ane daniki answer ivvaledu :-) Other than political mileage for vested interests ?
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Kamal:

ndia ni local ga manani manam indigenous ga piluchukunnaam ani telvadu naaku nee posts chadive varaku




enduku argument ni twist chestavu, local gaa indegenous gaa pilchukuntunnamu analedu ekkada. I only said that the word is not coined by the British.

Nenu kooda federal, secular democracy lo oka public representative oka religion ni represent cheyachu ani, state lo MLA batti development ki funds allocate chestaru ani, telsukunnanu nee posts valla. Thappadu DB ante anthe.
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anna .. disco prolong cheste .. inko ruling istavu nuvvu .. naaku avasarama cheppu avanni ..

India ni local ga manani manam indigenous ga piluchukunnaam ani telvadu naaku nee posts chadive varaku .. ippudu telisindi .. manam past nunche gatla piluchukuntunnam ani .. dil khush ainadi .. thx ..
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ok .. matter solved matter solved matter solved .. yahoo .. ruling vachesindi ..




point leda inka...kiki


India peruki, British slavery ki, queen bootlicking ki relation enti?
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Nehru rename cheyadaniki, India ni Bharath ani rename cheyadaniki relation ledu.



ok .. matter solved matter solved matter solved .. yahoo .. ruling vachesindi ..
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nehru kurrod crores spend chesi removing statues/renaming stuff chesi untay ...for the then generation, it is an sense of achievement to reflect upon 200 years of imperial occupation, decades of struggle for independence...queen boot licking endhi...chuss ...we are creating our very own identity ani sooinchaaru
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mari .. Nehru ni antha huge expense tho parks, streets, cities, hospitals, railway stations, bridges rename cheyyakunda addukovalsindi .. alage schools lo .. hail the queen paadukovalsindi ga .. anavasaram ga syllabus revise chesi kharchu penchaamu .. I am sure .. you are very very unhappy and utterly disgusted by Nehrus activities !




Nehru rename cheyadaniki, India ni Bharath ani rename cheyadaniki relation ledu. India name has not been imposed by the British. India ki queen or somebody else kotha peru pettaledu, going by their whims. It got that name from its geographical location.
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History ante manaki istam ainave untaya? Memories ki History ki theda undi saaru. Whether you like it or not, they are very much part of history. And we cannot change it now.



mari .. Nehru ni antha huge expense tho parks, streets, cities, hospitals, railway stations, bridges rename cheyyakunda addukovalsindi .. alage schools lo .. hail the queen paadukovalsindi ga .. anavasaram ga syllabus revise chesi kharchu penchaamu .. I am sure .. you are very very unhappy and utterly disgusted by Nehrus activities !

ofcourse .. meeku ardam kaadu maa badha .. ! enjoy chesko ..
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Kamal:

ila persian/islamic/british invasions ni mana history anukunte .. andulo pride emundo nuvve cheppu .. explain cheyyi adi ye vidhamaina teepigurto ?




History ante manaki istam ainave untaya? Memories ki History ki theda undi saaru. Whether you like it or not, they are very much part of history. And we cannot change it now.
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Let's get people access to basic education and textbooks first...



why do you people always put this kind of argument forward only when one particular set of people put forward something related to an intangible like respect and pride ..??

1947 lo .. India ki independence ragane .. Indian govt head by Pt. Nehru spent a huuuuge 30 crores to remove statues of the Queen and other British heads like Viceroys from the parks, renamed streets and hospitals and some cities as well. Why did people like you, not raise your hands of objection then? If anything, the move was supported as a Swadesi Gaurav .. and to remind you, as a matter of fact, India was more impoverished and uneducated than it is today. I hope you agree.

Mental_sachinodu:

Persian/Islamic/British invasions of India are a part of our history, as much as any other era that passed by before these things have happend. Why is there a need for running away from these?



annai .. to put things in perspective .. personal level lo .. oka manishi ki otamulu/gelupulu rendu untayi .. evaraina edi gurtu pettukovaali anukuntaru? nenu aithe gelupu ne .. otami nunchi lessons matrame nerchukunta .. kaani kanipinchina prati vadiki nenu appudu ala darunam odipoya telusa ani cheppukovadam/gurtu cheyyadam choodaledu .. same way family teesuko .. intlo subhakaryalu/chavulu rendu untayi .. kaani photo albums, videos teesi memories laa unchukunedi subhakaryale .. chedu kaadu .. AFAIK ..

same way .. India ki, as a nation .. whatever invasions happened .. vaatillo migilindi .. nothing but loot/genocides/rape of indigenous population .. vaatillo nunchi lessons nerchukovali anu .. neeku naa full support untundi .. anthe kaani .. ila persian/islamic/british invasions ni mana history anukunte .. andulo pride emundo nuvve cheppu .. explain cheyyi adi ye vidhamaina teepigurto ?

Anand_n:

What has changed in Bombay since it became Mumbai (marathi pride-amchi mumbai) - other than adding new law and order problems on whether Ganesh puja pandals should have only Marathi bhajans playing or not?



simple solution anukunta andi .. we should go back to Bombay from Mumbai and let people play Ganesh bhajans in English .. then there would be no law and order problems anukuntunna !
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The value in a name does not come from its uniqueness, or the frequency one can meet it. The value of a name comes from the person who has it and from the things this person has done, or not done. Any name is as good as the person who has it.




So here's the issue - when India has more poor people in 8 states than Africa does in 26 countries, when people are eating dirt to fill stomachs, when people are leaving the country in hordes in search of a better life, when the country with the first university in the world has the highest number of illiterates, pride needs to be built from what the country is...And maybe the pride needs to take a little knocking so people acknowledge the real problems and fix them to rebuild pride and earn respect...

Renaming itself to days of old glory and basking in tha past is escapism to my mind...Bharat tomorrow will still be as uneducated and undernourished as India is today ..


Okahyderabadi:

It is not a coincidence that we are in the state that we are today because we do not take pride in our identity and the prime reason for that is we live in the system that was designed to make us slaves of the empire.




I think part of the blame lies on the system prior to that which made us susceptible to become slaves in the first place...}


Okahyderabadi:

I cannot understand why but after 63 years of independence in India why are we not objecting and correcting the children History books (4th to 12th Std) and B.Ed curriculum material offered by all universities which are still giving wrong info about the Macaulay's and the Maxmuller's while belittling our own heros like Bhagat Singh, Azad and scores of other true patriots.




Let's get people access to basic education and textbooks first...


Okahyderabadi:

Our present generation of students are getting misled, away from the truth due to the material that was prepared during the time of the Raj and of course we ape it blindly and distance away from our own culture and purity of thought.




And you really believe changing a name will start fixing that ? Will it make more people stay back in India tied to our culture and purity of thought ?

Let's look at the precedents:

What has changed in Bombay since it became Mumbai (marathi pride-amchi mumbai) - other than adding new law and order problems on whether Ganesh puja pandals should have only Marathi bhajans playing or not?

What has changed in the Bangalore since it became Bengaluru ? Are Bangaloreans more proud of their city now ?

These measures are eyewashes to delude ourselves- nothing more than that...
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Okahyderabadi:

While I agree with you that there are many problems that deserve attention than this one. I am not sure why we do not take pride in something that is our own while the whole world takes a pride in their ethnic background and try to get closer to it.

It is not a coincidence that we are in the state that we are today because we do not take pride in our identity and the prime reason for that is we live in the system that was designed to make us slaves of the empire. I cannot understand why but after 63 years of independence in India why are we not objecting and correcting the children History books (4th to 12th Std) and B.Ed curriculum material offered by all universities which are still giving wrong info about the Macaulay's and the Maxmuller's while belittling our own heros like Bhagat Singh, Azad and scores of other true patriots. Our present generation of students are getting misled, away from the truth due to the material that was prepared during the time of the Raj and ff course we ape it blindly and distance away from our own culture and purity of thought.

I can speak for myself and never resort to giving out abbreviating form of my name because I am proud of my origins and no matter what I would not change. It is done by somebody who does not feel proud of their name / lineage and that is precisely why we should go back to our roots and our identify to instill the pride.


We simply do not feel the pride or attachment to our country because we do not feel it is our own and the name itself might be one reason.

We would be called 'Bharatvasi' or 'Bharati's just like the Americans , Indonesians or pakistani's and why there should be any reason to feel inferior about it? - we are already called Bharatvasi's anyway in our official language.


cant agree more..bharat mataki jai:-)
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Hi Ruj tammi bagunnara?


baavuna anna..meeru ela unnaru:-)
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Kamal:

ee rulings entandi




rulings kaadu common sense. An MLA/MP or anybody is elected by "all" ppl from his area, not just ppl of one religion. So he represents "everybody", and hence cannot represent a religion. period.

I am surprised that I had to elaborate this.
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Okahyderabadi:

The value of a name comes from the person who has it and from the things this person has done, or not done. Any name is as good as the person who has it.




thats exactly what im trying to say. the value of a name comes from the person, or the country. any name is as good as the person who has it. the name can be india, or bharathvarsi, or any other name, it is more about what we leave behind. so why worry about name, when we should be worrying about what we leave behind. our ancestors left behind a history, why chose some and leave others, we are a product of our entire history, not just a chosen part of our history. if our history has shades that are negative, we still have to be proud of it, not escape them. I am proud of everything that has happend in the land i come from, im proud of the culture the land has given to its dwellers but everyone who came to it, including the oppressors of ancestors.
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have a good night, time to retire
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again don't take it personally when i say there is no pride without a name. these statements � not meant to offend anybody its just my personal feeling
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I am not sure how you can say we dont take pride. is pride something that is innate or is something that depends on how others address you? i could careless if someone calls me with a name that they could understand about me. It does not matter me if I'm called Indian, Hindustani, bharathavasi, or asian. Its just how someone else recognizes me, and my pride has nothing to do with how they can relate to who I am.





in a large country, amidst people from all races, diverse ethnic and religious background, any name unless that of a celebrity will be not important and no one will relate a person to a name from the news of yesterday. In fact many people who move to a country like US prefer to accept the identity of their new place and loosen bonds from the pages they have closed.

Your way of analyzing the issue from two aspects â ethno-cultural and purely personal is probably the best one. In any nation, environment and society some people care about who they are and what they will leave after them, while others do not care at all whom they hurt -the nature, their community, family, or even themselves. The value in a name does not come from its uniqueness, or the frequency one can meet it. The value of a name comes from the person who has it and from the things this person has done, or not done. Any name is as good as the person who has it.

The responsibility of a person to the other members of society, including his family and to the family name is a different aspect of all the above. For me it is important, for others â probably not.

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Okahyderabadi:

We simply do not feel the pride or attachment to our country because we do not feel it is our own and the name itself might be one reason.




Personally, I don't think people's pride or attachment is driven by a name - but is you believe people are that shallow, to each their own :-)


Okahyderabadi:

why there should be any reason to feel inferior about it?




Again an assumption:-) I was just curious what they prefer to be called in English - to me Indian is good enough ... don't need anything different :-)

You guys carry on :-)
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Okahyderabadi:

I am not sure why we do not take pride in something that is our own while the whole world takes a pride in their ethnic background and try to get closer to it.




I am not sure how you can say we dont take pride. is pride something that is innate or is something that depends on how others address you? i could careless if someone calls me with a name that they could understand about me. It does not matter me if I'm called Indian, Hindustani, bharathavasi, or asian. Its just how someone else recognizes me, and my pride has nothing to do with how they can relate to who I am.

Let me not hide behind anything when i say it does not matter to me, if pride is something that is related to respect, and respect need to commanded not obtained by changing names. While everyone agrees that the term "India" is not derogatory, and is just an etymological representation, and look for going back to the roots, why stop at bharathvasi, why not go further down to when we were tribes of caveman, and call ourselves caveman?

Persian/Islamic/British invasions of India are a part of our history, as much as any other era that passed by before these things have happend. Why is there a need for running away from these?

If someone says we are not bharathavasi, then I would be offended as much as someone says I am not an Indian. Both are the same to me.
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Anand_n:

Agree..but it was derived from Sindhu anedi na point:-) And even if it was not it does not matter to me, Bharat does not make me feel any different than India does :-)

I also think this is just a ploy to divert people's attention from the real problems facing the country...and there are enough people who see this as the biggest crisis facing the nation :-)

So what will all these people call themselves after the change instead of Indians - Bharatians or Bharatese ?:-)

This whole discussion about identity /pride brought a hilarious contrast to mind - many desi professionals who work overseas have no hang-ups abbreviating their Indian names to short names that Americans can say easily:-)





While I agree with you that there are many problems that deserve attention than this one. I am not sure why we do not take pride in something that is our own while the whole world takes a pride in their ethnic background and try to get closer to it.

It is not a coincidence that we are in the state that we are today because we do not take pride in our identity and the prime reason for that is we live in the system that was designed to make us slaves of the empire. I cannot understand why but after 63 years of independence in India why are we not objecting and correcting the children History books (4th to 12th Std) and B.Ed curriculum material offered by all universities which are still giving wrong info about the Macaulay's and the Maxmuller's while belittling our own heros like Bhagat Singh, Azad and scores of other true patriots. Our present generation of students are getting misled, away from the truth due to the material that was prepared during the time of the Raj and ff course we ape it blindly and distance away from our own culture and purity of thought.

I can speak for myself and never resort to giving out abbreviating form of my name because I am proud of my origins and no matter what I would not change. It is done by somebody who does not feel proud of their name / lineage and that is precisely why we should go back to our roots and our identify to instill the pride.


We simply do not feel the pride or attachment to our country because we do not feel it is our own and the name itself might be one reason.

We would be called 'Bharatvasi' or 'Bharati's just like the Americans , Indonesians or pakistani's and why there should be any reason to feel inferior about it? - we are already called Bharatvasi's anyway in our official language.
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Politicians never represent a religion, and they never should.



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Okahyderabadi:

I think it was just a way for the greeks to name the land on the other side of indos as india.




Agree..but it was derived from Sindhu anedi na point:-) And even if it was not it does not matter to me, Bharat does not make me feel any different than India does :-)

I also think this is just a ploy to divert people's attention from the real problems facing the country...and there are enough people who see this as the biggest crisis facing the nation :-)

So what will all these people call themselves after the change instead of Indians - Bharatians or Bharatese ?:-)

This whole discussion about identity /pride brought a hilarious contrast to mind - many desi professionals who work overseas have no hang-ups abbreviating their Indian names to short names that Americans can say easily:-)
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rest me truth, honesty .. but yes to minority reservations ..




LSP says that a proper survey must be done to verify who among minorities are backward, and reservations be given ONLY to those.

Oka pakkana matham adharanga reservations undakudadu, ani prathi village lo mosque anna PRP tho alliance kosam try chestaru.

Inko pakkana 12% muslim reservations anna TRS tho pothu pettukuntaru.

Minority reservations gurinchi BJP vallu talking..kiki...

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Anand_n:

I thought Vjavasi's question was on how it became Indus - so I gave my conjecture on the change from Hindu to Indus ... ofcourse it may just have been caused by a dyslexic making Sindhu - Indhus




The saptha sindhu system of which saraswati and sindhu rivers were mentioned many times in the Rig veda. Sindu was called as Indos by Greeks, chinese call it Yindu and the tibetans the Sengge chu or lion river.

I think it was just a way for the greeks to name the land on the other side of indos as india.
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Sapta Sindhu is a reference to the land that existed on the other side of the 7 rivers literally. Etymology follows in the following way the Persians/Zoroastrians referred to this as Hapta-Hindavas/Hindu. You can find the reference of this in the Zend Avesta




True - I don't think that part was in question:-)

I thought Vjavasi's question was on how it became Indus - so I gave my conjecture on the change from Hindu to Indus ... ofcourse it may just have been caused by a dyslexic making Sindhu - Indhus
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leader avvalante JP matham ni vadukovakkarledu.



daanni .. vaadukovadam anaru .. rightfully represent cheyyadam antaru ..

rest me truth, honesty .. but yes to minority reservations ..
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gochi aina .. pagdi aina kattamanu .. JP ni matram Hindu interests advocate cheyyamanu .. he will be my leader immediately .. andulo no compromise at all ..




leader avvalante JP matham ni vadukovakkarledu. Aa category vere vallu unnaru.
If he does that he is not fit to be called a leader.

It is enough if he does what he is doing today, advocate truth, and honesty.
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Anand_n:

Wild guess here ..:-)

Sindhu- Hindhu - Indu - Indus ( due to Latin practice of adding s at the end ) ????




Sapta Sindhu is a reference to the land that existed on the other side of the 7 rivers literally. Etymology follows in the following way the Persians/Zoroastrians referred to this as Hapta-Hindavas/Hindu. You can find the reference of this in the Zend Avesta
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kinda nundi mana gochi kooda oodapeeke politicians ni support chestu, pagdi sambhal ani padukundamu.kiki



gochi aina .. pagdi aina kattamanu .. JP ni matram Hindu interests advocate cheyyamanu .. he will be my leader immediately .. andulo no compromise at all ..
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Vjavasi:

sindhu nundi hindu derive ayyindhi anedhi logical.....but sindhu ane padam nundi indus ane padham derive ayyindhi ante, rendu padalaki ekkada ponthana ledhu....




Wild guess here ..:-)

Sindhu- Hindhu - Indu - Indus ( due to Latin practice of adding s at the end ) ????
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we dont care sir.. english one of our official languages kabatti, aa bhasha lo india antunnam coz thats how it was known through out history in that language.. just like telugu lo bharata desam annattu, sanskrit/hindi lo bharat annattu..





but we do care.....we are not english speakers....we want our country's original name in official communication within our country and outside our country
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we dont care sir.. english one of our official languages kabatti, aa bhasha lo india antunnam coz thats how it was known through out history in that language.. just like telugu lo bharata desam annattu, sanskrit/hindi lo bharat annattu..
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Jujung:

I am no linguist.. but to venture a guess:

Sindhu -> Sindh (sanskrit root) -> Hind (Persian/arabic/whatever) -> Indus (greek/latin root) -> India (english)

Hind to Indus - does not seem to be too big a leap for me?





ila...ee padam aina derive cheyyochu....id doesn't mean the root is sanskrit....again why should we care for a forth or fith hand derive name....when our literature, culture and tradition has a original name
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Vjavasi:

sindhu ane padam nundi indus ane padham derive ayyindhi ante, rendu padalaki ekkada ponthana ledhu....indus is a greek word....it has no connection with Sindhu....greeks just used indus to call sindhu




I am no linguist.. but to venture a guess:

Sindhu -> Sindh (sanskrit root) -> Hind (Persian/arabic/whatever) -> Indus (greek/latin root) -> India (english)

Hind to Indus - does not seem to be too big a leap for me?
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Here's google translate tool to check India's name in various languages:
http://translate.google.com/translate_t?hl=en&safe=off&clien t=firefox-a&hs=qsi&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&q=india+na me&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sl=en&tl=zh-CN&sa=X&ei=_C15TJyVJ4GclgfJ55Tx Cg&ved=0CBUQrgYwAA#en|hi|india

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Kamal:

Pagdi sambhal jatta .. pagdi sambhal oyeee ..




kinda nundi mana gochi kooda oodapeeke politicians ni support chestu, pagdi sambhal ani padukundamu.kiki
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sindhu nundi hindu derive ayyindhi anedhi logical.....but sindhu ane padam nundi indus ane padham derive ayyindhi ante, rendu padalaki ekkada ponthana ledhu....indus is a greek word....it has no connection with Sindhu....greeks just used indus to call sindhu.....they used their own names for many india cities and personalities
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_India

The English term is from Greek IndÃa (Ἰνδία), via Latin India. IindÃa in Byzantine (Koine Greek) ethnography denotes the region beyond the Indus (ἸνδÏÏ) river, since Herodotus (5th century BC) ἡ Ἰνδική ÏÏÏη "Indian land", ἸνδÏÏ "an Indian", from Avestan HinduÅ¡ (referring to Sindh, and listed as a conquered territory by Darius I in the Persepolis terrace inscription). The name is derived ultimately from Sindhu, the Sanskrit name of the river, but also meaning "river" generically. Latin India is used by Lucian (2nd century).

Every country has different names in different languages.. India is called differently in Chinese, French, German as well..
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Jujung:

and the name India is also derived from Sindhu river (land from Sindhu river) and so it's also not some foreign name.. along with Hinduism etc etc





india ki sindhu ki link emundo konchem chepthara...i mean etla 'Sindhu' ane padham nunchi 'India' vachindhi
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posts lo chaala mandi name change antunnaru.. kaani Bharat is an official name along with India, per constitution.. so there is no name change issue here..

and the name India is also derived from Sindhu river (land from Sindhu river) and so it's also not some foreign name.. along with Hinduism etc etc

and almost all countries have different names within their language.. France, germany etc etc no big deal.. vaadevado instant popularity kosam edo cheyyatam, so called patriots anthaa oogipovadam

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Bharath inaneeki kammaga haayiga undhi



India ani ani Bharat ante ado pakka desanni pilichinattu undi naaku :-)
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Bharath inaneeki kammaga haayiga undhi.. maarsandehe


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my country's name is India instead of Bharath.



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Bharath inaneeki kammaga haayiga undhi.. maarsandehe
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vuttine paisal kharchu petti kotta board lu paint cheyyadam kakunte?



paisale badha aithe .. develop avvagaane marchukodaniki problem ledu maaku ani cheppeyyi akkai .. inkenduku aalasyam ..
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its a matter of pride .. kontha mandiki unfortunately ardam kadu anthe




40 years nunchi developing country gaane vunnam. aa pride gurinchi matladachu kada? vuttine paisal kharchu petti kotta board lu paint cheyyadam kakunte?
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Okahyderabadi:

also with the logic that the money spent over rebranding India as Bharatavarsha is exorbitant



anduke .. naa proposal ela undi annai? Worlds biggest economy and on average .. country with the highest per capita income lanti marvelous achievements choosinappudu .. we should not be complaining about the money thing right .. appudu adi celebrate chesukunnattu kuda untundi .. aa highs achieve cheyyadaniki country ki kuda motivation untundi .. emantaru?

ee roju ki .. one of the official names lo Bharata Ganarajya ani undi kabatti .. there is no urgency anachu .. but appudu money waste gurinchi complain cheyyadaniki emi undadu anukuntunna !

Karnavati for Ahmedabad, Saketh for Faizabad, Bhagyanagar for Hyderabad, Indraprastha/Hastinapuram for Delhi .. boledu marchachu .. its a matter of pride .. kontha mandiki unfortunately ardam kadu anthe .. :-(
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While I agree with the argument what's in a name and also with the logic that the money spent over rebranding India as Bharatavarsha is exorbitant and can be put to better use I subscribe to the view that we need to get back out identity which is 'Bharatavarsha' and not India. It does not matter if we use etymology or any other way to justify it.

All Indian cities which have been renamed after the English enslaved us need to be renamed to their old names. It is an identity we carried for a millennium and no reason for us to retain something that changed it few centuries ago. A beautiful name like Karnavati should be reinstated instead of Ahmedabad,a Bhagyanagar should be brought back instead of Hyderabad.

As always other contrary views are respected.
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basis dheniki.. arent we bharath today? somehow im missing the point. name change cheyatam ento ardham kavatle...unna three names lo bharath kooda okati kadha? so it looks like we dont want India as a name any more, and just want to be bharath and hindustan?



annai .. Hindustan is not an official name at all .. firstly .. though it is very popular ..

India .. nijaniki manane represent chestundi .. by etymology .. no doubts at all .. but the origin of the word lies in the heart and thoughts of those people .. who wanted to "enslave" India/Bharat .. ofcourse .. that does not mean .. there is any thing bad or derogatory with the word India .. its just that .. you are giving importance to people who wanted to subdue India .. simply put .. you want to be called by a name, your bitter adversary named you with .. adi self respect aa kaada ante .. matter of individual perspectives anthe ..
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Hatred for the rich and powerful chala common. May not be correct in all cases
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Humpty_dumpty:



Coke:



Elca:


endi ee thed lo racha vere thed lo fighting seyyandi.
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Kamal:


basis edaina unda? .. peru maristhe (actually original names prefer cheste) retarded anukovadam .. daniki ulta vadinchatam .. hemto .. maaya maaya .. antha maaya .. !




basis dheniki.. arent we bharath today? somehow im missing the point. name change cheyatam ento ardham kavatle...unna three names lo bharath kooda okati kadha? so it looks like we dont want India as a name any more, and just want to be bharath and hindustan?

international ga kooda Bharath ante maname kadha?
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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Cocanada:

CBI lo C = congress
CBI enni saarlu court lo cases odipoyindo telusaa?


ee sollu endhuku...supreme court already stay icchindhi konni chotla mining cheyyoddhu ani....cheskomanna chotla kooda maps ni forging chesaru ani investigation....point congress or bjp ani kadhu...point evaru strong iithey they r raping desham....ee vishayam neek theleeka pothey nenemseyyalenu....
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Elcaminocapastrino:

permit leni chota mining chesthunnarani prrof kooda undhani cbi cheppindhi...desanni dhochukuntuntey point chesthey edupendhi nee bondha...




CBI lo C = congress

CBI enni saarlu court lo cases odipoyindo telusaa?
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@Cocanada

have u recently had any head injuries? edupu ekkada kanapadindhee neeku?
mining business tappu ani yevadu annadu?
gaali and co illegal mining, using political power to have their way ani prathi credible dept mothukuntuntay neeku samajh awwadhaa?

naaku yentha scene undhoo naaku telusu...variety statements tho neeku unna scene pokundaa choosukoo
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vaarneee.. ee thread ni inkaa jeedipaakam laga saagadeestunnara... india vs bharat.. deenikkuda intha disco naa.. vaaammo.
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Cocanada:

Neeku scene unte nuvvu kuda business chesko...edupu manesi


edisav le...permit leni chota mining chesthunnarani prrof kooda undhani cbi cheppindhi...desanni dhochukuntuntey point chesthey edupendhi nee bondha...
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peru maaristhe baane vuntundhi
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Humpty_dumpty:

"business" denitho chesthunaaru babu, kidney lo stones tho naa?


Mining business ye thappu aa aite?

Nee drusti lo tappu ayuntundi. There is nothing illegal abt it.

Neeku scene unte nuvvu kuda business chesko...edupu manesi
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Mental_sachinodu:

bharath anedhi mana peru kadhu ante agitate cheyochu.



basis edaina unda? .. peru maristhe (actually original names prefer cheste) retarded anukovadam .. daniki ulta vadinchatam .. hemto .. maaya maaya .. antha maaya .. !
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india name indica nunchi vachindi ante it is a greek name bharath ani pettaukodam lo tappuledu .. kapote inta late ayina tarvata marchukodam valla confusion tappa National/ international ga vadigedi emi ledu
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bharath anedhi mana peru kadhu ante agitate cheyochu. we are identified as both india, hindustan, bharath. if possible inko kotha name kooda ettukundham.
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Indiarocks:

county peru taruvatha, mundu Hindu ki "mana" peru cheppandi. Evaro persian ichina peru annappati nundi manassanthi ledu. Naaku nidra pattadu. please.





sanathana dharama ani original name.....means eternal laws of existence
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Vjavasi:

evaro pettina peruki....mana culture, history, literature lo vunna peruki teda ledha bro.....mana parents pettina peru mana peru avutundhi....inka evado edho perutho manalni pilisthe adhi mana name anukovala?




county peru taruvatha, mundu Hindu ki "mana" peru cheppandi. Evaro persian ichina peru annappati nundi manassanthi ledu. Naaku nidra pattadu. please.
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Indiarocks:

annai Hindu kooda mana peru kaadu. danni ela maruddamu cheppandi. Evado persian ichina name manam enduku follow avvali?





The Vishnu Puranam accounts the extent of Bharatavarsham,

à¤à¤¤à¥à¤¤à¤°à¤ यतà¥à¤¸à¤®à¥à¤¦à¥à¤°à¤¸à¥à¤¯ हिमादà¥à¤°à¥à¤¶à¥à¤à¥à¤µ दà¤à¥à¤·à¤¿à¤£à¤®à¥ ।
वरà¥à¤·à¤ तदॠà¤à¤¾à¤°à¤¤à¤ नाम à¤à¤¾à¤°à¤¤à¥ यतà¥à¤° सà¤à¤¤à¤¤à¤¿à¤ ।।

uttaraá¹ yatsamudrasya himÄdreÅcaiva daká¹£iá¹am
vará¹£aá¹ tadbhÄrataá¹ nÄma bhÄratÄ« yatra santatiḥ

"The country (vará¹£am) that lies north of the ocean and south of the snowy mountains is called BhÄratam; there dwell the descendants of Bharata."

Bharatakantham is the region which is contained in Bharatavarsha, comprising of modern South Asia. In the Hindu prayer invocations (Sankalpam), the normal order of geography is
Bharatavarshe (Akhanda Bharatam), Bharatakhande (Bharatam),...
(In Bharatavarsha, in Bharatakantha and so on)
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Indiarocks:

and a first hand estimate on how things worked for Gaali,




first hand estimate kaadu, evidence.
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How did bharat name came from? from the king bharatudu...
repu inko MP vachi bharat kadu country peru bharatudu ani marchali antadu..
bharatudu ane peru ni westernize chesi bharat ani piliste OK kani mana sanskrit name origin aina india ani piliste tappa ?
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Bharat anadi hindu perulaa vundi.Andharni satisfy cheyyali. Indistan peru ela vundi?
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Kamal:

r u sure he wasnt guessing .. bcos .. in an article in rediff .. he said .. 3k crores "could" be the value .. no methodical estimate .. lol .. wat a dick ..




annai he is the head of the investigation agency who seized Gaali's illegal ore. He has a first hand estimate on its worth, and a first hand estimate on how things worked for Gaali, the ports he uses, their illegal permits etc. So the estimate is based on this information.

Ikkada koorchoni nijamga field lo investigate chesina vadu dick ante nee istam
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Kamal:

nee convenience kosam argument lo .. persian/greek parts omit chesaav .. god bless ..


enti omit chesindi??? clear gaa cheppanu kada root word from Sanskrit ani... paina persian greek undani India ane daanni omit cheyadaaniki meeru ready ayyaru...nenu kaadu...

nenu secular ani ekkada cheppanu??? oka possiblity cheppanu...enduku daanni oppose cheyakudadho ani...

already Bharat anedi official name...repu evaro nonhindu daanni enduku oppose cheyakudadu...meeru cheppe vaadana thone...??? manadi enthainaa secualr nation kada...vakalu pette vollu prathi chota untaaru mari...
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Ishan:

Persians gave the name India based on Indus river which was named after sanskrit Sindhu. So the basic root of name India is Sanskrit, I dont know what is the big deal here.




exactly, both hindu and india sprang from the same roots. both came from out side. and there is nothing derogatory in it.
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Mental_sachinodu:

well, whats wrong with india? are we not india? irrespective of who gave the name, it is still a name that identifies the geographical position of our country. wasnt it?





evaro pettina peruki....mana culture, history, literature lo vunna peruki teda ledha bro.....mana parents pettina peru mana peru avutundhi....inka evado edho perutho manalni pilisthe adhi mana name anukovala?
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Vjavasi:




annai Hindu kooda mana peru kaadu. danni ela maruddamu cheppandi. Evado persian ichina name manam enduku follow avvali?
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The number came from the Lokayukta of Karnataka, not some Dick, or a political opponent. And he has the first hand estimate of Gaali's corruption.



r u sure he wasnt guessing .. bcos .. in an article in rediff .. he said .. 3k crores "could" be the value .. no methodical estimate .. lol .. wat a dick ..

Indiarocks:


aithe hindustan ni sanatana dhrarmistan ani kooda marchali



kikk .. Hindustan is not an official name .. naa badulu nuvve icon esko .. lol
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Persians gave the name India based on Indus river which was named after sanskrit Sindhu. So the basic root of name India is Sanskrit, I dont know what is the big deal here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4Weah5XlW8
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Kamal:

we are any ways .. sanatan dharmis ..




haha, i remember we discussing this earlier. hindu, india anni bayata ninchi vachina terms ee.. nijanga manam sanatana dharmis ani proof enti. mana poorivikulu sanathana dharmam follow ayyar ani manaki aa peru ettatam correct ee na.
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Kamal:

we are any ways .. sanatan dharmis ..




aithe hindustan ni sanatana dhrarmistan ani kooda marchali
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Kamal:

ofcourse .. even 3 crores is a very good number for me personally .. so how did u arrive to that number?




The number came from the Lokayukta of Karnataka, not some Dick, or a political opponent. And he has the first hand estimate of Gaali's corruption.
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Vjavasi:


we have to officially refer ourselves as Bharat while communicating with the world




well, whats wrong with india? are we not india? irrespective of who gave the name, it is still a name that identifies the geographical position of our country. wasnt it?
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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Hindu anedi kooda persian word antunnadu gaa, ippudu danni deniki maruddamu?


we are any ways .. sanatan dharmis ..
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3k crores good number for you? kaadu ante lite, I don't want to discuss about Gaali.



ofcourse .. even 3 crores is a very good number for me personally .. so how did u arrive to that number?

u dont want to discuss about gali anukunnappudu reply ivvakunda undaalsindi ga ..
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Kamal:

nee convenience kosam argument lo .. persian/greek parts omit chesaav .. god bless ..




Hindu anedi kooda persian word antunnadu gaa, ippudu danni deniki maruddamu?
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Kamal:

how much % is good share .. any number by any chance .. plzz share ..




3k crores good number for you? kaadu ante lite, I don't want to discuss about Gaali.
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Cocanada:

"dochukovadam" ante enti?

business cheyadamaa?




"business" denitho chesthunaaru babu, kidney lo stones tho naa?
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No wonder.. Thackerey's, Karunanidhi's, KCRs were born in our country.
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Mental_sachinodu:

whats the point, we already know we are bharath, we know we are indians.





we have to officially refer ourselves as Bharat while communicating with the world
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Masularex:

India mana peru kaadu anukuntunava??? root word came from Sanskrit only...



tammud .. idi chaduvu ..


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The name India is derived from Indus, which is derived from the Old Persian word Hindu, from Sanskrit सिनà¥à¤§à¥ Sindhu, the historic local appellation for the Indus River.[31] The ancient Greeks referred to the Indians as Indoi (Îνδοί), the people of the Indus.[32]




nee convenience kosam argument lo .. persian/greek parts omit chesaav .. god bless ..

Masularex:

Bharat anedi...clear gaa Hindu mythology ni represent chestundi...appudu...non hindus emi antaaru...



unfortunately for you secular folks, Bharat is already an official name tammud .. u like it or not .. there are no non-Hindus in India .. people on the east of Sindhu are all Hindus and Indians .. :D

Masularex:

ayina idiantha meaningless...



super cool .. judgment pronounce chesesaava appude .. bye then ..
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Aa MP gadiki Bheja Sarkyinchinda ?? mana official name Bharateeya Gantantra Swarajya ee kada malli marchudu endi ??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_names_of_India



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whats the point, we already know we are bharath, we know we are indians.
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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Official gaa peru marchali, adi lekapothe self respect ledu, ee gola enti?



matter of factly .. India ani peru pettindi .. those people who wanted to "enslave" India .. rest ala adige vallaki pani ledu .. meeku undi ..
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Kamal:

adenti .. mana pere manaki nachadaa? alanti vallu kuda untara? vaammo ..


annai... mana peru manake nacchadu anadaaniki ee thread ee oka saakshyamu... India mana peru kaadu anukuntunava??? root word came from Sanskrit only... Bharat anedi...clear gaa Hindu mythology ni represent chestundi...appudu...non hindus emi antaaru...arya varthan annadi..only aryans represent chestundi...appudu dravidian tounge lo unna manamu emi antaamu...

ayina idiantha meaningless...mana official names India and Bharat...alage china japan kuda rendu official names untai... Japan lo internal gaa antha Nippon ani pilustaaru ...
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a good share of his business is corrupt. idi meeku telsu, naaku telsu, yeddy ki telsu, aatma vanchana enduku?



how much % is good share .. any number by any chance .. plzz share ..
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ila aithe AP ki aa peru enduku, idi varaku AP aney kingdom ledu kada? ikkada mathram self respect addu raada?



sure .. AP ane political entity kottaga form ayyundochu .. kaani aa land emi kotta ga form avvaledu ga .. AP region ki what name suits it well? Telugu pradesh? apt ga untundi anukunta .. mee choices cheppandi .. Trilinga pradesh???
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Pplsuck:

Dude, by any chance nuvvu emanna mathematician or something like that?....serious gaane adugutunnaa...




kaadu....enduk?
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Kamal:

business cheste corruption antara? by what standards ..




a good share of his business is corrupt. idi meeku telsu, naaku telsu, yeddy ki telsu, aatma vanchana enduku?
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>>>>
adhey ninnu okkasaari ban chesthey 100 rojulu aa issue ni pattukuni edisav soodu aa tyfu nuvvu..
>>>>>>>>>>

konni konni tappav mari........appatlo unna time ki easy target adey dorikindi.....

take it easy man......."Consistency is the hallmark of Donkeys" ani.....not such a bad thing to be inconsistent sometimes.....
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Pplsuck:

babulu .. we already are "Bharat" .. guddalu sinchukovaddu .. stone age .. sexy age ani .. telusukoni matladandi ..




chinchukundi evaru, manaki Bharat istam aithe alage pilchukundamu. Official gaa peru marchali, adi lekapothe self respect ledu, ee gola enti? Aa MP evadiko bothi gaa pani lenatlundi.
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business cheste corruption antara? by what standards ..
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'India" that is 'Bharat' anta...intha confused statement ekkada choodala
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Indiarocks,

Dude, by any chance nuvvu emanna mathematician or something like that?....serious gaane adugutunnaa...
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babulu .. we already are "Bharat" .. guddalu sinchukovaddu .. stone age .. sexy age ani .. telusukoni matladandi ..
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ppl sck...chiddhu statement was made for fun....edho naa posts between the lines statements quote chesi edho satire esinattu feel ayyi happy avvatam thaffithey nee matter lo content nill...neeku para lu type chesi expalin chesina malli repeat sesthav sodhi...adhey ninnu okkasaari ban chesthey 100 rojulu aa issue ni pattukuni edisav soodu aa tyfu nuvvu..nee nasa musalollu kooda ettaleru..nannu oggeyyi...
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Kamal:

fact - whole India lo jarige mining lo .. Gali business share by volume - 3%




ante country motham lo sagam mining cheste kaani meeku aanada Gaali corruption. kiki
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aina manollaki ee perlu marche pichi entoo...





perlu marchatla...original native names to pilustunnaru
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For god sake, don't take India back to stone age by calling up with some other name..
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Cocanada:

"dochukovadam" ante enti?
business cheyadamaa?


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Kamal:

for suppose .. mee intlo ki varada neeru vachindi .. varadalu taggaka .. meeku opika vachaka .. mee illu clean chesukokunda .. that was a memory of the past ani oorukuntara? kaadu gaa .. idi anthe .. matter of self respect ..




enti Hyd ki inkedo peru pettukunte self respect vachestunda.

ila aithe AP ki aa peru enduku, idi varaku AP aney kingdom ledu kada? ikkada mathram self respect addu raada?
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Vjavasi:

english lo tittina manaki stylish ga vuntundhi...telugu and other desi bhashallo tidithe motu ga erra bus ekki vachinattu vuntundhi


country name ni tittu to polustunnava...aina manollaki ee perlu marche pichi entoo...
evadi peru ni vadu marchukodu kani ila cities,states,jilla,country names marchatani matram ready ga untaru
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avunu mari manaki porugiti pulla koora baga ruchi......english lo tittina manaki stylish ga vuntundhi...telugu and other desi bhashallo tidithe motu ga erra bus ekki vachinattu vuntundhi
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Cocanada:

"dochukovadam" ante enti?

business cheyadamaa?




ledu.. borders maarcheyyadam.
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Masularex:

alage "Bharat" inka "aryavarthan" ane prelu kuda nacchavu marikontha mandiki...



adenti .. mana pere manaki nachadaa? alanti vallu kuda untara? vaammo ..
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Elca raaja,

ninna "Chiddu rocks" annaav......ivaalemo idi....."self respect untey chose nice leaders who wont rape desham"..........

aa madhya "with power comes responsibility" annaav....it doesn't apply to chiddu now......kotha cinema emannaa choosaavaa?

oka roju, genes and heredity is shxit, nothing shud be based on it antaav....other day vachchi, Sourav is better than Sachin as captain bcos of his lineage antaav....and we shud make such people as captain antaav...

raaja, nee maatalu maatalu kaavu.....panduranga mahatyam choosinattundi.....nuvvu, Der iddarooo DB chesukunna punyam....
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India name looks stlyish among all other country names....only a tuglaq can change the name so popularized now
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Cocanada:

neeku em telusu ani ee statement ichavu?



adi anthe .. maa baavi lo attanti noos le vastayi ..

fact - whole India lo jarige mining lo .. Gali business share by volume - 3%
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World lo chaala thakkuva countries vaati perlu ave pettukunnai... India anna peru more than two thousand years nunchi vundi...bayata prapancham antha manamlly alage pilichavaaru...Sanskrit---Sindu....persian....Hindu (vaallu S ni H gaa palike vaallu)...valla dwaara western folk...Indus..Indoi..etc...

appudu manaki aa peru undani manaki theliyadu...endukante...aa peru oka geographical area ni represent chestundi kaani oka desaanni kaadu...appudu manaki nation state concept ledu...Pedda pedda rajyaalu chaala vacchai kaani..present India ni complete gaa cover chesina rajyam edi raaledu... Actual gaa India anna peru...northern India..present day Pakistan ki apt...kaani adi mana peru kaadu annadi nijam kaadu...root word came from Sanskrit only...same with the name China...

perlu maarchadam dwaara edo saadincheddam anukotam thappu... oka vela kontha mandiki "India" anna peru nacchakapothe, alage "Bharat" inka "aryavarthan" ane prelu kuda nacchavu marikontha mandiki...
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Vjavasi:


enduku akkarledhu.....asalu official ga name change cheyyataniki antha namoshi ibandhi enti....kontha mandi name doesn't matter antunnar....can they say same thing abou their name.....vallani valla name to kaakunda gannaya, pentayya ante oorukuntaara


absolute ga oorukoru bro .. aa gannayya, pentayya la ki .. desam kante maname imfortant emo .. allakoka rule .. desanikoka rule .. ambani antha rich aithene .. mukesh ani peru ettukovali .. lekafothe mattayya ani filifinchukovaali annattu undi alla vadana .. anduke .. oka achievement ni signify chestoo change cheste meeku abyantaram ledu ga ani adigings ikkada ..

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Dude past is past. We cannot change it now. That was the rule of the world at that time, invasions, wars, and the powerful wins.



for suppose .. mee intlo ki varada neeru vachindi .. varadalu taggaka .. meeku opika vachaka .. mee illu clean chesukokunda .. that was a memory of the past ani oorukuntara? kaadu gaa .. idi anthe .. matter of self respect ..
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Elcaminocapastrino:

iffudu gali lanti kurrol dhchukuntunnaru


neeku em telusu ani ee statement ichavu?

"dochukovadam" ante enti?

business cheyadamaa?
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appatlo persiana dhochukunnar...iffudu gali lanti kurrol dhchukuntunnaru...
peddha difference ledhu...self respect untey chose nice leaders who wont rape desham...lekapothey just peru marchi koddhiga talcum powder esi but rape is inevitable antey dhentho navvalo theldhu
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Vjavasi:




Bro, these kinds of things are always open to interpretation and very subjective. okallaki self-respect anipistundi. inkoriki waste of money and wrong priorities anipistundi.

Stig annatlu aa dabbultho chala chala chinna fixes cheyyochu mana country lo.

Btw, did srilanka change names of many cities too or just the country name? We spent quite a bit on changing mumbai, chennai, bangaluru. I guess we should spend on bagamathi and bharath next.
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Kamal:

we can start using Bharat more from now .. ippude official name change akkarledu





enduku akkarledhu.....asalu official ga name change cheyyataniki antha namoshi ibandhi enti....kontha mandi name doesn't matter antunnar....can they say same thing abou their name.....vallani valla name to kaakunda gannaya, pentayya ante oorukuntaara
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Indiarocks:

hyd ki em vachindi? that name is part of history.



what was it called originally? Bhagya nagar? or Hyderabad from the start????

Bharat .. a very beautiful name .. kaani .. we are already Bharat .. papers, people .. even neighbouring countries call us Bharat many a times .. we can start using Bharat more from now .. ippude official name change akkarledu .. lets put it as a goal when we are the number 1 GDP or the country with the highest average per-capita income in the world .. that would be like a celebration on a marvellous achievement .. wat say? appudu kuda inka poverty etc ani kunti saakulu vethukkovakkarledu ..

Btw .. surprised to see this bill from a Congress MP .. kudos !!!
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Cocanada:

and a bloody history when foreigners conquered and enslaved the people and gave a persian name to the indian soil




Dude past is past. We cannot change it now. That was the rule of the world at that time, invasions, wars, and the powerful wins.
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A Rose With any other name would smell as sweet

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Fix your country which is full of corruption,underdeveloped nation still struggling with high proverty rate & then you can think about renaming the country..
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Indiarocks:

that name is part of history.


and a bloody history when foreigners conquered and enslaved the people and gave a persian name to the indian soil
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keka..
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Chennai..

Mumbai..

Bengaluru..

ippudu Bharat...

Endi bhai idanthaa.. Does it really make any difference if u change the name.. already alavaatu ayina perlu piluchukovadaniki naamoshi aa? edava ego/publicity problems. desam lo cheyyalsina panikochche panulu chaaaaaaaaaaalaaaaaa vunnayi.. Mundu aaati sangathi choodandi.
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Guttonkay:

Bro, I find it insulting that someone thinks I am not patriotic if my country's name is India instead of Bharath. I can't say it any better than that.





article malla chadavandi...akkada evaru mee patriotism ni kochen cheyyatla...bharat ane name vache feeling, self-respect different antunnar
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Bro, I find it insulting that someone thinks I am not patriotic if my country's name is India instead of Bharath. I can't say it any better than that.

Rest is up to our so called patriots.
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Ippude ee peru Marchadaniki pette tokkalo karchutho kanisam 1000 schools anna baagu cheyochhu anukuntunna ....

country peru Bharat ayithe enti Baluchisthan ayithe enti .... manalo undali kani !!



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NEROLAC paints company ki labham tappinchi name change valla upayogam ledhu
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Cocanada:

ade chetho hyderabad peru kuda maarchandi. seppukodaniki baaledu




hyd ki em vachindi? that name is part of history.
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I support

indian name for our country

ade chetho hyderabad peru kuda maarchandi. seppukodaniki baaledu
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mental gallu....perla meedha paddaru...
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Guttonkay:

LORD! what asinine thinking. They really think that we don't feel patriotic if our country's name is India.





yes, i feel ashamed if my country is called India...chivariki chinna desham srilanka kooda 'ceylone' ane peru marchindhi


Guttonkay:

IDIOTS. Fix the zillion problems Bharath has first and then think of yet another name change.




intelligent madam goru, problems vunte peru marchakoodadha....peru maaristhe problems perugutaaya?.......mee antha kashtam ga enduku vundhi
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No Need we are Good as it is
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peru maristhe patriotism janalaki vasthundha seppandi....waste of time BILL
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Vjavasi:

it is the sense of patriotism that the name generates and electrifies the people of this country that is relevant, Naik noted.




LORD! what asinine thinking. They really think that we don't feel patriotic if our country's name is India.

IDIOTS. Fix the zillion problems Bharath has first and then think of yet another name change.
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http://news.rediff.com/report/2010/aug/27/should-india-just- be-called-bharat.htm

Shantaram Naik, Congress MP from Goa [ Images ], on Friday sought a Constitution amendment bill in the Rajya Sabha to call the country simply 'Bharat' and not 'India'.

His private member bill seeks to amend the Preamble and Article 1 of the Constitution of India [ Images ] to drop India and use 'Bharat'. It says the words 'India, that is Bharat' in sub-clause 1 of Article be replaced with just 'Bharat'.

The grounds for changing the name of the country into simply 'Bharat' are many but, more than the grounds or reasons, it is the sense of patriotism that the name generates and electrifies the people of this country that is relevant, Naik noted.

The Congress MP quoted a lyric from the 1965 film Sikandar-E-Aazam to buttress his case: "Jahan daal daal par sone ki chidiyan karti hai basera, woh Bharat desh hai mera."