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     Guttonkay Comedian Username: Guttonkay Post Number: 1197 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 137.254.4.4 Rating: N/A |
only 50,000 Rs for bail. Why can't they make it something like 50 lakhs. The guy will not get any punishment anyway. Atleast let him post a big bail. | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 16522 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 208.88.0.16 Rating: N/A |
http://movies.rediff.com/report/2009/oct/01/shiney-gets-bail .htm they have fulthoo faith in judicial system anta....jai ho maro bellam | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 3151 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
he should have preferred sex few times and shot more movies..he got it all wrong.. hehehe | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 16521 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 208.88.0.16 Rating: N/A |
dude right from the beginning he prefers to shoot very few movies ....and he was gettin old so obviously he cut down the number....and then got married to a hot ass actress and he had kids and seems like he was very content ..... | ||
| Guttonkay Comedian Username: Guttonkay Post Number: 1193 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 137.254.4.7 Rating: N/A |
getaflix, I get ur point. I think the issue with $3x with a minor is that unless someone complains about an incident legal system can't do anything. In the case of R.Kelly he got away b'coz the girl in the case never came forward. The Polanski thing is double edged. He got away and is able to get garner sympathy b'coz he is a celebrity. At the same time a lot of people are up in arms his name is recognizable. Like I said a no name someone wouldn't get away like Polanski did after committing what the kind of crime Polanski did. Sometimes I wish the age at which kids hit puberty can somehow be moved to 19. Half the issues will be resolved if that happens. Unfortunately tho it seems the age by which girls hit puberty is decreasing. | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 3150 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
agree.. kaani brother.. Oscars is the biggets stage in the world kada ..imagine polansky thatha ki case problem undakapoyunte .. ee patiki Speilberg tho kalisi half dozen concentration camp cinemalu odilevadu janam meedaki.. he lost too many oppurtunities. | ||
| Film_fan Side Hero Username: Film_fan Post Number: 7286 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.138.131.153 Rating: N/A |
he lived in paris for 30 yrs as nonamer and he couldnt even come to US and take best director award for pianist. --- he is living in his country....as nonamer....mmmm not correct...europe lo he is still a great celebrity.... "Any one who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new" - Einstein | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 3148 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
And to the argument that polanski escaped justice- he lived in paris for 30 yrs as nonamer and he couldnt even come to US and take best director award for pianist.. i think as an artist he paid a lot of what he did.. sympathy anukondi or whatever - its what i think. | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 3147 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
if it involves a minor - then it is rape even it if occurred with consent. The point i want to drive home here is - there is lot of abuse going around many neighborhoods and you see many teens getting pregnanth and all.. nobody cares but when it involves some one with high profile - everybody jumps on moral bandwagon. | ||
| Film_fan Side Hero Username: Film_fan Post Number: 7285 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.138.131.153 Rating: N/A |
man Indian Go-man...Dabao-iskee shiny ahuja ki bail vacchindhi....ee lopu.... June nunchi vunnadu.....sakkaga.....Kangana ranaut.....vidya balan tho action cheseyvaadu....ila ayipopyadu.... veedi future enti? roman polanski laaga dubai paripothey....ok na? "Any one who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new" - Einstein | ||
| Ipc302 Side Hero Username: Ipc302 Post Number: 3241 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 129.62.81.129 Rating: N/A |
i think they r pursuing bcoz he fled the country thinking that the deal will not be honored by the judge and he will be jailed anyhow may be 30 yrs back he would have got a slap on the wrist , in this day and age he will not get any quarter if at all he ends up in US court | ||
| Guttonkay Comedian Username: Guttonkay Post Number: 1192 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 137.254.4.7 Rating: N/A |
IPC, I don't think the court can dictate the victim that she can't have a settlement. Victim did her own thing via private channels, not thro the court system. But law still has to do it's job. That's why the US justice system still pursuing him. | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 16520 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 208.88.0.16 Rating: N/A |
law is tricky......prohibition time lo al capone ni attukotaniki addamina kashtaly padatharu pulis....but then once he was caught n n tried n after all that mess prohibition li life chesestharu....but law is law....sweden lo rape chesthey jail ki kooda pamparu...social service cheyyamantaru....same rule US lomo leka desham lono edothey pedithey okka pilla kooda bayata thiragaledhu.....most of the laws r there in every country for a reason...n then polanski committed sodamy tooo......i think his mind was treking through a dangeorus path in that time as even b4 this 13 yr old he was doing this with 15 yr olds....donno how can he left free | ||
| Guttonkay Comedian Username: Guttonkay Post Number: 1191 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 137.254.4.7 Rating: N/A |
getaflix, while it is deplorable that kids are having $3x at such an early age and teen pregnancy is growing at an alarming rate people are not considering that a moral issue b'coz it's not the same as r#p3. It's apples and oranges. If they make a law saying anyone who has $3x until they turn 19 yrs old then yeah it will be fun for adults. Many kids will no longer find going to school so interesting I guess. | ||
| Ipc302 Side Hero Username: Ipc302 Post Number: 3238 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 129.62.81.129 Rating: N/A |
u cannot have this both ways...she should have not gone for restitution when the case in in court....a victim has the right to restitution if awarded by the courts and not thru a out of court settlement | ||
| Ipc302 Side Hero Username: Ipc302 Post Number: 3237 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 129.62.81.129 Rating: N/A |
what age can be considered as legal is in dispute there are cases where 12 or 14 yr old boys prosecuted as adults for committing sexual acts against girls of lesser age and many more cases where juveniles even aged 10 were prosecuted as adults in murder cases how does one decide who is an adult or juvenile and why does it change according to the age of victim? | ||
| Guttonkay Comedian Username: Guttonkay Post Number: 1189 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 137.254.4.7 Rating: N/A |
IPC, yes she shouldn't have benefited monetarily but that's her prerogative and I think Polanski's et. al., wanted to buy her silence. Her mom was an upcoming model in DC area when she moved to LA and she was still working in ads and TV shows when this happened. The polanski money probably helped them resettle in Hawaii. Since they accepted money they really don't have much to say now other than saying I want this case to go away from my life. | ||
| Guttonkay Comedian Username: Guttonkay Post Number: 1188 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 137.254.4.7 Rating: N/A |
Nihil, yes Clinton pardoning Mark Rich was wrong. He was only indicted, not tried and sentenced. Clinton pardoning him was plain wrong. Polanski on the other hand plead guilty, was tried was going to be sentenced and fled. That's plain wrong and if the US could find him, arrest him they should do so which they did. Now he should be brought back and if Obama wants to pardon him so be it. I hope Obama is above that but who knows. May be that's what the hollywood elite wants to do keep Polanski in Europe another 6 years and Obama will pardon him when his second term is about to be over :-| | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 3145 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
Ikkada morality gurinchi maatladi polanski ganni cheelchi chendadtharu at the same time teen pregnancy vishayam lo matram super sympathetic ga untaru endhuko prejalu.. | ||
| Nihil Junior Artist Username: Nihil Post Number: 353 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 208.53.138.21 Rating: N/A |
I think the evolution of gay culture n child rape go in diff directions. -------------- There are 2 problems with this argument // 1) Child- legal age of sex anedi marutundi; US lo 18 yr - I think Sweden lo 14 Y; so we don't know in next 10 yrs lo aa legal age 12 ki vasthe appudu ee case paristhiti enti ? 2) Prasthutjam US lo 14 Y kalla almost 30-40 girls ki deflowering jaruguhundi - so chinna pillenti na royya ? eppudo 30 yr back- heavy lite | ||
| Film_fan Side Hero Username: Film_fan Post Number: 7282 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.138.131.153 Rating: N/A |
ikkada french are speaking only to cover their citizen anukuntunna..... american director ni aithey....French vallu enduku daasthaaru? French have an obligation to defend its citizen..... bush ni middleeast vallu.....war crimes ki adigithey icchesthaara? manchodu...maanavaali ki.....chaala sayam chesadu...vadileyandi antaaru..... "Any one who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new" - Einstein | ||
| Ipc302 Side Hero Username: Ipc302 Post Number: 3235 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 129.62.81.129 Rating: N/A |
my contention is she should have not benefited monetarily at least not thru out of court settlement and regarding mental trauma being argues as the cause of committing sexual crimes many no of cases have ended in the perpetrator getting a soft sentence due to this reason...this is a disputed issue i agree he committed a henious crime and should not be let of bcoz he is a celebrity | ||
| Nihil Junior Artist Username: Nihil Post Number: 352 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 208.53.138.21 Rating: N/A |
Bochu le- America edo pedda pudingi, France aedo hosting criminals annatlu cutting isthunnar ga . Bush gadu Scooter libby gadini pardon cheyaleda ?? Outright ga perjury case lo dorikipoyadu- Cheney gadi chemcha gadani Clinton Mark rich gadini pardon cheyaleda ?? crimes anni chesi velli switzerland lo dakkunte Vyabhicharam- Srungaram: US vallu cutting d'dam manukondi. | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 16517 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 208.88.0.16 Rating: N/A |
I think the evolution of gay culture n child rape go in diff directions.....thomas jefferson in those days used to have a 14 yr old slave girl....god only knows wat n all he did with her....now doing that something like dat is considered a crime....u cant compare homosexuality to child rape anukuntunna | ||
| Film_fan Side Hero Username: Film_fan Post Number: 7281 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.138.131.153 Rating: N/A |
anukonaa bellam-baala reference vastundi ani... -- anukunna meeru vastharani......  "Any one who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new" - Einstein | ||
| Linkmaster Side Hero Username: Linkmaster Post Number: 9280 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 12.34.246.72 Rating: N/A |
anukonaa bellam-baala reference vastundi ani... | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 16516 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 208.88.0.16 Rating: N/A |
yeah....he was not convicted and never he did agree that he did it....here the guy accepted he did it...and yet france gave him shelter....and now the french minister is claiming that the US govt should take into consideration the talent of polanski n let him go free.....Though the girl has been compensated this is definitely sickening from a moral point of view some people(like the french minister) directly voicing their opinion in support of polanski to let go free for raping a 13 yr old...... | ||
| Film_fan Side Hero Username: Film_fan Post Number: 7279 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.138.131.153 Rating: N/A |
Just say for ex- bellam said he received a bullet' gift from bala- he is still safekeeping it in his kidney. --- good but....matters get worse when he also wants to gift one.... so alanti gifts oppukokoodadhu........ cakes....flowers lantivi aithey ok..... "Any one who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new" - Einstein | ||
| Guttonkay Comedian Username: Guttonkay Post Number: 1187 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 137.254.4.7 Rating: N/A |
Nihil, correction - victim didn't drop the case. She simply accepted the sum Polanski gave her and he eluded arrest all this time. She just wants it all to go away. | ||
| Film_fan Side Hero Username: Film_fan Post Number: 7278 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.138.131.153 Rating: N/A |
I agree with the argument that he should be tried atleast....following the course of law..... nirdoshi ga vadilithey vaakey...but he fled is itself a case kadha? "Any one who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new" - Einstein | ||
| Nihil Junior Artist Username: Nihil Post Number: 351 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 208.53.138.21 Rating: N/A |
humpty dumpty ---------- Victim ae lite teeskoni long back case drop chesukundi- inkem problem oo naku ardham katam ledu. Just say for ex- bellam said he received a bullet' gift from bala- he is still safekeeping it in his kidney. | ||
| Guttonkay Comedian Username: Guttonkay Post Number: 1186 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 137.254.4.7 Rating: N/A |
getaflix, what I said is for those who defend him saying he was a victim of this and that. Yes, he may get aquitted in the end. But he doesn't know that, we don't know that. No one knows what will happen unless he is brought back to America and phases the judicial system. I want him to be brought back to US and we will go from there. He fled the country and wants to fight an extadition. I am against that. And yes, OJ trial was a travesty. And I wish the judge who was going to sentence Polanski kept his mouth shut and just sentenced him to 50 yrs in prison instead of mouthing off. | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 3143 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
aapithe money yokka power pothadi..world will collapse.. afterall money sampaadinchedi endhuku... fancy cars and big mansions chala thondaraga bore kodthai | ||
| Humpty_dumpty Side Hero Username: Humpty_dumpty Post Number: 3472 Registered: 02-2009 Posted From: 38.117.247.14 Rating: N/A |
@Nihil IMO, today's society does not view being gay and raping a intoxicated minor as one and the same anukuntunna... Why so Serious? | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 3142 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
Nuvv nenu judge ayithe chalo atlane cheddam brother..O.J.Simpson murdered his wife in mid 90s..He was tried methodically before court of jstice and acquitted of the crime when everybody knew O.J frikkin killed his wife.. So ikkada emotional angle lo judge chesi emi upoyogam ledu anukuntunna.. | ||
| Nihil Junior Artist Username: Nihil Post Number: 350 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 208.53.138.21 Rating: N/A |
Alan Turing ani famous british scientist vunnadu- Hes the father of cryptology and artificial intelligence- German Enigma machine codes ni break chesi second world war ni single handed ga allies vaipu thippadu. After the war he is a gay ani bayatapadindi- Then hes been castrated and put in the jail- Suicide chesukuni chanipoyadu. Ee madhye UK PM Brown official ga sorry cheppi, official apology issue chesadu. Alane oka 50 yrs tarvtha US govt will issue an aplogy to Polanski anukuntunna. | ||
| Guttonkay Comedian Username: Guttonkay Post Number: 1184 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 137.254.4.7 Rating: N/A |
IPC302, the victim can say whatever she wants to say now. Part of the reason she is saying all that is b'coz she got paid a huge sum and she wants to move on with her life. However, once she (her mom) filed a case it's in the hands of law. She could probably turn a hostile witness, that's another story. He should be brought to America to face a judge. He may get aquitted, he may get convicted and do jail time or not. Bottomline is he fled the country before he was given whatever sentence. He should be brought back to face that. No one runs away from the law and if they do they must be caught and they should pay for their crimes. It's shameful that all the elite in Hollywood are jumping up and down in his defense. So what his parents died in genocide and his wife was murdered. If a regular joe siad I am victim of holocaust, I am traumatized, I am going to go sodomize few girls, will that ever fly? Why should Polanski be above any other regular joe averages? | ||
| Film_fan Side Hero Username: Film_fan Post Number: 7272 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.138.131.153 Rating: N/A |
but the victim has gone for an out of court settlement and wants to end the case and lead her life --- mmm......buying out victims is a way buying justice....and adhi elagola aapali...... on the other hand......Polanski.....shouldnt also be victimies for being popular..... case if any should just be like an other molester..... "Any one who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new" - Einstein | ||
| Humpty_dumpty Side Hero Username: Humpty_dumpty Post Number: 3471 Registered: 02-2009 Posted From: 38.117.247.14 Rating: N/A |
@GuttonKay isstraight gaa chepparu Why so Serious? | ||
| Humpty_dumpty Side Hero Username: Humpty_dumpty Post Number: 3470 Registered: 02-2009 Posted From: 38.117.247.14 Rating: N/A |
//but why so much sympathy for polanski???// I will give a tabloid angle to it...lets see if it can stick... Polanski is a Jew, Hollywood is run by Jews Hollywood sympathizes with Polanski... Now tell me the reason ...kiki Why so Serious? | ||
| Ipc302 Side Hero Username: Ipc302 Post Number: 3234 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 129.62.50.22 Rating: N/A |
the question is what is the ultimate goal of the judicial process do u want the victim to suffer yet again or do you want to abide by the law of the land.... if the victim wants to prosecute the guy we should go ahead and punish him but the victim has gone for an out of court settlement and wants to end the case and lead her life so it is a tricky question BTW want polanski did is punishable accodring to my opinion problem is "the victim does not want to pursue this case" | ||
| Film_fan Side Hero Username: Film_fan Post Number: 7270 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.138.131.153 Rating: N/A |
inka moral angle lo chusthe yaa a 13 yr old can be manipulated.. but legal perspective lo chusthe i think case is long gone.. -- that 13 yr old.....must be a 43yr old lady now still strong(must be) and should be allowed to molest Polanski.....now.... sharia law..... "Any one who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new" - Einstein | ||
| Guttonkay Comedian Username: Guttonkay Post Number: 1183 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 137.254.4.7 Rating: |
Law has a very long arm. What he did was wrong. It was actually r@pE, but the prosecutors allowed him to plead guilty to the lesser charge of statutory rape. Imagine if you had a 13 year old and she was raped and sodomized. He might be talented and creative and all that jazz but what he did was criminal. So what he ran away. They were able to catch him and he should pay for his crimes. Let him do some jail time and learn a lesson to not give alchohol and drugs to someone and violate them. An a$$h0l3 is an a$$hol3 whether he is talented or not. | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 3141 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
lets compare apple sto apples..genocide tho rape copare etla chestham.. R.kelly was caught committing heinous act but he was exonerated later.. why the case was not strong..Lets not link morality wiht legality.. lega ga chusthe case is not at all strong and its looking downright silly naamatku | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 3140 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
30 yrs back story etlundeno brother..i mean appati law book lo sex with minor offense etuvanti offense kinda treat chesevaaro.. all in all the case is weak.. inka moral angle lo chusthe yaa a 13 yr old can be manipulated.. but legal perspective lo chusthe i think case is long gone.. | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 16515 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 208.88.0.16 Rating: N/A |
13 yr old tho mutual consent antey esi dhobbutharu...there was alcohol n some date rape drugs....inga if it comes to timeline....if the find a guy in france who was a big head in nazi camp during 2nd worldwar will they let him go??? kummi dhobbutharu.....but why so much sympathy for polanski??? | ||
| Humpty_dumpty Side Hero Username: Humpty_dumpty Post Number: 3469 Registered: 02-2009 Posted From: 38.117.247.14 Rating: N/A |
isn't sex with a minor a statutory rape in most US states? how can there be consent when the girl is 13?- yes she has accepted compensation( I leave that decision to her). but by the rule of the book, I think he should be tried. Why so Serious? | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 3138 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
polansky chesindhi silly anatledu..but trying for the crime which was done 30 yrs ago that too the grievant was paid handsomly is silly antunna... ikkada case konchem weaken ayipoyinattanipisthundi. I dont know all the details but the sex was with mutual consent ani E! teu life stories lo chusinattu gurthu..if it was a rape then yes no matter when it occurrred its a crime and the defendant should be tried seriously.. | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 16514 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 208.88.0.16 Rating: N/A |
endhuku silly....she was only 13....so anyone who can afford can do something nasty here n escape to france right??? | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 3136 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
H eshould be tried on escape charges ..if there is such thing in US law ..It would be silly to try him on child molestation case. | ||
| Risingstar Hero Username: Risingstar Post Number: 13180 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 98.225.199.48 Rating: N/A |
khel khatham case should be closed... | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 16512 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 208.88.0.16 Rating: N/A |
History of the case 30 years back polanski drugs and commits sexual acts with a 13 year old... then when he got arrested for it he accepted the charges and then he escaped from US to france....then he gives some enormous amount of money to this 13 yr old as compensation....so she keeps quiet....so all these years france harboured this guy even after being completely aware of the deeds he comitted...Now its been 30 years....and this gut got nabbed.... mee opinions ettandi....how he should be punished....ikkaga morals anni confusing ga unnayi....people just r so forgiving when it comes to celebs....wat do u think??? } |
