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and coming to what is are negative aspects, well take this db, you post for fun and that is a positive aspect in my view, and posting answers to queries like the ones you have posted is a negative aspect.
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example kaadu.....define "negative aspect".....I can turn around and say my posting is negative aspsect and you replying is positive.....apuudu iddaram gol tiruguthooo rest of our lives spend cheyyochchu......

pls listen very carefully.....we are in this together to understand the heck out of this issue at hand.....

so once again, what is a negative aspect?
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Elcaminocapastrino:

u takeany religion if there is someone who is like a face of that religion




wat about islam where woman are not permitted to enter a masjid..??
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Thelegend:




sreerangam gaaru em chesina connecton vuntadi..manam matram ontopic satire kooda eykoodadu
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Diviseema:

he took sanyasa at the age of 8 to 9 and left the home. and this happened at 16.




That explains it. He was around 30 when he wrote about advaita.
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manushula batti untai posts.intentions evident for couple of ppl.anyway..thread divert avutundilight teesuko....
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first of all why they have to pratcice celibacy....why such a prejudice against sex n women....u takeany religion if there is someone who is like a face of that religion u always hear about him as someonewho never touched women or practiced sex....well can he also stop eaiting n drinking too...no...
they have issues with women...i dont understand....
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Pplsuck:

hat is negative aspect and what is positive aspect? why shud people be insecure about negative aspects?



I dont know why someone should be insecure about it? that is why i dont worry about negative aspects. and coming to what is are negative aspects, well take this db, you post for fun and that is a positive aspect in my view, and posting answers to queries like the ones you have posted is a negative aspect.



Pplsuck:

if you want to learn something just for the purpose of knowledge, why do you have attach emotions to it or attribute intentions to it...



if you are asking me if i attach emotions, I dont know, let me know If i come across as a person who attach emotions or attribute intentions. never thought about it.


Pplsuck:

.why are you always thinking in terms of demean, abuse, negative aspect and insecurity?



I am not sure, if i am getting this right, so you think I "always" think in terms of abuse, deman, negative aspect and insecurity?
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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divi mama did u read my post? did it make any sense?

ni post ki response only nuvu mention chesina ppl nunchi expect chesava?
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Wrathchild:




support enti neeku kooda same doubt vachhindi kaani nuvvu kindal cheyaledu may be... Elca and 2cool comedy ga question chesaru...anyway nee cover drives staart cheyyi inka NTR connection petti
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Elcaminocapastrino:

Vagina,Penis,sperms,ovary,safe sex,condoms,gspot,stds,hiv, etc etc etc...comes under sexeducation....i donno why that dude instead of giving a biology test book about sex education had to taje this tedious process of parakaya pravesham....kiki




So if thats sexxeducation and it can be obtained by looking at books..why cant we think he entered as a soul to see it, rather than experience it? because of lack of books etc??
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he took sanyasa at the age of 8 to 9 and left the home. and this happened at 16.
DIviseema Sky gari FAN
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Thelegend:

2cool at least on topic post chesadu, did not bring up undavalli or seshadri... nuvvu NTR ni techhasv, mallee neethul cheptunnsav




akkada topic kante ekkuva shankaracharya ni kindal cheyyatame atani aim..thats evident form him cliparts..nubvvu digipoyav support ki kiki
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Wrathchild:

define sex education in the first place



Vagina,Penis,sperms,ovary,safe sex,condoms,gspot,stds,hiv, etc etc etc...comes under sexeducation....i donno why that dude instead of giving a biology test book about sex education had to taje this tedious process of parakaya pravesham....kiki
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Wrathchild:




2cool at least on topic post chesadu, did not bring up undavalli or seshadri... nuvvu NTR ni techhasv, mallee neethul cheptunnsav

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No one answering my doubts...I hurted......

this thread is not only provoking but also hurting all hindus, muslims, xians, baskians and suckians...........pls delete this thread and ban M_S, MAV, Hyder for properly not responding to my questions.......not responding to co-DBer can be considered abusing the co-DBer.....

as per the new rules, ban all the above...
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Wrathchild:


neeku baaga vachhuga sidathal attukuni manodiki chestannav bhatraju bhajana
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>>IF HE ATTAIN TOTAL KNOWLEDGE , WHAT IS THE USE OF LIVING ThERE AFTER. what he will learn or experiance thereafter.

i dont think there is anything called "total knowledge" or "total rich" there is always room for improvement

a monk can never be totally wise or knowledgeable because even though he achieves eternal knowledge he still is ignorant of material knowledge and earthly experiences

did shankaracharya claim that he has attained "total" knowledge?
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porxn ani kodithey alaa padindi....
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First of all..define sex education in the first place
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>>>>
daaniki vere vallu sex choodochhu kadha
>>>>>>>>>>

appatlo websites anni levemo brother.....give him a break in this issue...maree pakkanolla sex choodaledani tittadam em baaledu....
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Elcaminocapastrino:

how can he explain something when he didnt experience




then again comes the question..how can soul experience lust?? is that not a physical trait driven by harmones? check my first question
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Pplsuck:

excellent post....1 * for you......


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Ishan:

To whom he was trying to prove? He was the proponent of advaita and he must knew that except for the Brahman everything else Maya. How could he not know that kamam was also Maya? May be this happened in his early years of life before propounding advaitha.




I do not think he was a proponent of advaita when this happend. He left as a sanyasin from his home, at the age of sixteen, and started his travels. This happend in one of those travels.
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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Wrathchild:

Sex education gurunchi cheppadaniki lust experience cheyyala? I guess this is misunderstanding on what shankarachary actually did


how can he explain something when he didnt experience
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daaniki vere vallu sex choodochhu kadha ,. why to enter his body.

atleast ayana aa chanipoyina king ni anna moosam chesinattega.

thana laabham koosam etharulani endhuku moosam cheyyadam.

ayina evvvarikaina total knowledge ela vuntundhi. adhi thelavada aayanaku.

IF HE ATTAIN TOTAL KNOWLEDGE , WHAT IS THE USE OF LIVING ThERE AFTER. what he will learn or experiance thereafter.
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Cool_ghazini:

2cool mama if u r trying to make fun of my point then u r welcome but do it in another thread or if u have a valid comment to defer with my statement then post it without using cliparts and icons




exactly..this same guy will create a earthquake wherever he is residing if people start talking about NTR's experience and what happened that night..

sarigga disco cheyyatam vaste kada..kiki
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sada shiva samarambham Sankaracharya madhyamam
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yes brother, there is a motive, I wanted to make clear that I am not here to abuse hindu's and demean their cultural values. If there is something apparantly negative aspect, I am not insecure to hide it, but bring it out, and discuss it so I can may be see If I can understand it better.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>

excellent post....1 * for you......what is negative aspect and what is positive aspect? why shud people be insecure about negative aspects? if you want to learn something just for the purpose of knowledge, why do you have attach emotions to it or attribute intentions to it......why are you always thinking in terms of demean, abuse, negative aspect and insecurity?

please answer me....Im being very objective about all this.....

so you think sankar sex episode is negative for hinduism?
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>>Has anybody tried to understand the pleasure Sakaracharya had while doing this

2cool mama if u r trying to make fun of my point then u r welcome but do it in another thread or if u have a valid comment to defer with my statement then post it without using cliparts and icons
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Mental_sachinodu:

one need not be leading a worldly to have enmass all the knowledge.




Is not lust for knowledge and enlightenment a lust too ?

Is the need to establish supremacy of one's knowledge not an ego-need ?

Does it diminish man to use his own body to find answers ...because he did have to use a body ?

More philosophical questions rise out of this anduke story difficult to digest annanu :-)

This is the irony of these stories - everyone interprets them differently ...


Pplsuck:


I agree ith you....this thread is provoking




:-) looks like it is provoking a lot of people...see you all later in some non-provoking thread :-)
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guys

manchi thread ni paadu cheyakandi..

to be frank i dont know all these and first time i am reading this

pls dont post silly icons ..pls dont spoil the thread
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Mental_sachinodu:

In my view he was not attached to it.



As per your story, looks like he was attached. Otherwise why would he need his disciples to remind him who he was?

Mental_sachinodu:

but how can he prove that even kamam is another alteration unless he himself has gone through it?



To whom he was trying to prove? He was the proponent of advaita and he must knew that except for the Brahman everything else Maya. How could he not know that kamam was also Maya? May be this happened in his early years of life before propounding advaitha.
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>>>>>>>
Soul ki physicl trait undav ike eyes ears etc..my question is if itself cannot see,how come it can experience??
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

excellent point....inkaa emanipistondi neeku ee vishayamlo?...Sankar soul in King body vellindi antey elaa vellindi? physical gaa naa? inko vidhamgaa naa??


plz answer my question.....this topic is verey verey verey intriguing you know...
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Cool_ghazini:

so sankaracharya's soul was trying to understand the sexual pleasure while the king's body was experiencing the pleasure




Has anybody tried to understand the pleasure Sakaracharya had while doing this
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Pplsuck:

why u proud of hindu? why the need to mention that you are not insecure to discuss.....is there any underlying motive to utter those words.......




yes brother, there is a motive, I wanted to make clear that I am not here to abuse hindu's and demean their cultural values. If there is something apparantly negative aspect, I am not insecure to hide it, but bring it out, and discuss it so I can may be see If I can understand it better.
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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Pplsuck:

we are all in this together to understand this complex subject of sankar's sexual experiences.......


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How can soul see? does it have eyes? do you think it can hear lust too?....




Soul ki physicl trait undav ike eyes ears etc..my question is if itself cannot see,how come it can experience??
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Pplsuck:

.Please delete the thread and ban Basky....



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Pplsuck:

I agree ith you....this thread is provoking.w...it provoked me to make a post in this thread


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>>so sankaracharya's was trying to understand the sexual pleasure while the king's body was experiencing the pleasure

so sankaracharya's soul was trying to understand the sexual pleasure while the king's body was experiencing the pleasure
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Basky,

I agree ith you....this thread is provoking.w...it provoked me to make a post in this thread....and now the second one right after the first.....

I think this is a provoking thread......Please delete the thread and ban Basky....
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Basky annai. i dont know what ur thinking about me. to clarify u. I am in search of good vedic school in bangalore to join my kid. many opposed . they said i may spoil my kids future. main stream lo vellakunda edhem alochana ani thittaru. but iam very keen and made up my mind. voorne kaburlu cheppe batch kaadhu nenu. emanna nammithe chetha. at the age of 2 i(mostly his mother) tought him to pray to good as soon as he takes bath. day lo atleast 10 times OM word palikedattu chestha. but i want to know as much as possible about veda's and other stuff.
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divi mama

i think there is a clear cut difference between understanding sex and experiencing sex

for instance, let us say

if a male gynecologist is looking at a woman's private parts- he is trying to understand the functioning of her parts but where as if an ordinary person is looking at a woman's private parts, then knowingly or unknowingly he is experiencing lust or sexual pleasure.

doctor is understanding and ordinary person is experiencing

so sankaracharya's was trying to understand the sexual pleasure while the king's body was experiencing the pleasure

hope i am clear and not confused u further
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>>>>
It can see,but not experience it..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

Mav,

How can soul see? does it have eyes? do you think it can hear lust too?....

Great discussion......lets keep this rocking....

Hyder,

the other day after death experience of your heroine.....was it experienced? wat it seen or heard?....pls clarify....

M_S,

why u proud of hindu? why the need to mention that you are not insecure to discuss.....is there any underlying motive to utter those words.......


all,

plz answer me.......let us understand this together.........we are all in this together to understand this complex subject of sankar's sexual experiences.......
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Ishan:

I think the question is not whether he experienced it, but whether he was attached to it. Every thing we perceive through our senses is Maya.




Ishan,
In my view he was not attached to it.


Ishan:

very thing we perceive through our senses is Maya.



that is precisely what I was trying to convey, but how can he prove that even kamam is another alteration unless he himself has gone through it?
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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Ee thread ni delete cheyyaalaa.. abbbaaaaaaaaaa.. deeniyamma.. emi kyamedi raa ayyaa.. direct abuse cheste, proof kaavali anta.. asalu neat gaa disco aitunte, abuse anta.. religious head.. kevvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv.. kaaniyyandi..
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Wrathchild:

I understand that, but still how can soul feel the experience of lust..Lust is purely physical and harmonal.Soul cannot experience lust ani naa uddesam..It can see,but not experience it..




annai valid question and very important question.
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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Mental_sachinodu:

I am not sure how we can say that he did not experience lust. I think he needed to understand that the lust, is also another alteration of Maya, which you need not have to go through a physical act, if you can control your soul. I might be wrong, but it might be a possible motive?




I think the question is not whether he experienced it, but whether he was attached to it. Every thing we perceive through our senses is Maya. The only way to escape maya is to live in maya but not to get attached to it, the truth taught by Krishna. Perhaps Bharathi was testing his ability of non-attachment.
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Basky_indya:

but this thread is provoking.



enduku provoking..Nee objections emiti?
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Wrathchild:

Sex education gurunchi cheppadaniki lust experience cheyyala?




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Mrhyderabad:

His soul entered the king's physical body ani chepparu kadaa.




I understand that, but still how can soul feel the experience of lust..Lust is purely physical and harmonal.Soul cannot experience lust ani naa uddesam..It can see,but not experience it..
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Basky_indya:

aithe MEE INTLO vallaki cheppuko....

ikaaada vacchii nee preaching endhi....naaku




basky brother,
i have no intention of preaching to anyone. there was a question posed, and I answered it. If you have the patience please read it again, If you think I posted anything wrong, you can just leave this thread. I have no intention of demeaning anyone.

and to defend myself, I am a proud Hindu, who can openly debate with anyone about any subject related to hinduism. I have no insecurity about being a hindu.
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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Sex education gurunchi cheppadaniki lust experience cheyyala? I guess this is misunderstanding on what shankarachary actually did
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Wrathchild:

First how can soul experience this pleasure? is this not a physical plreasure satisfied only by a body?


His soul entered the king's physical body ani chepparu kadaa.
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ok meru chepparu kabatti, kasepu aagutha,choostha.

aa thread lo rakthapatham jarigi, delete avuthe



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please listen to Basky, he is right
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Wrathchild:


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First how can soul experience this pleasure? is this not a physical plreasure satisfied only by a body?
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Anand_n:

Your explanation negates Cocanada and Ishan's theory that he did not experience lust/maya




I am not sure how we can say that he did not experience lust. I think he needed to understand that the lust, is also another alteration of Maya, which you need not have to go through a physical act, if you can control your soul. I might be wrong, but it might be a possible motive?


Anand_n:

What did Shankara acheive by resorting to subterfuge - other than preserving the celibacy of his body ?




this is how i see it, his path of moksha needs to be giving him all the meaning of life, even every known feeling can be attained through moksha, whether it is a sensual pleasure attained through the physical body.


Anand_n:

And more importantly , is it not an implicit admission that his knowledge was not complete as a celibate ?



i am not sure if that is the point if this act, i feel it is more on the lines that, one need not be leading a worldly to have enmass all the knowledge.
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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Anand_n:

Your explanation negates Cocanada and Ishan's theory that he did not experience lust/maya




There are two issues here. FIrst is why shankara entered his body? IS it to answer her questions or because of lust?

Second issue is, as per the story of MS, once he entered the king's body, then he came under the influence of Maya and got attached to the bodily pleasures. I was unaware of this story.

My reply was for the first issue and I still stand by it. Shankara did not enter the king's body for the sake of having sex.
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Basky_indya:

ATnaaaa, naaku aa topic lo konni doubts unnai, THREAD eshi discuss cheyyala mari.....


mama hinduism okka nammakam puranala meeda spread kaledu . Shankaracharya punarudharinchadu ..
ilanti vatini veetini dharma sandehalu antaru .. Ikkada db lo chalamandi unnaru like Anand /M_S valla views plus info istaru ilanti vishayalameeda ..
Adi varaku vivekadhara kurradu vundevadu ilantivi cheppadaniki ..
yea nuvvu cheppina angle kooda untundi .. konthamandi haters vivekadhara meeda padi edcharu aa time lo ..

ikkada mods parledu shrutiminchanivvakunda chustaru dont worry ..
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Basky_indya:

aithe MEE INTLO vallaki cheppuko....

ikaaada vacchii nee preaching endhi....naaku




neekeavru preach chesaru saami....Hinduism meeda disc cheyakoodada? neeku ibbandi ga unte..lappy close cheyyi..
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test
Baskesh mama (16920): I have been provoked by that thread. its enough to delete....
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Eluri_kurradu:

Evaraina teliyanivi telsukovali anukunte tappu ledu ..





ATnaaaa, naaku aa topic lo konni doubts unnai, THREAD eshi discuss cheyyala mari.....
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basky mama dont be ridiculous there is nothing provoking in this thread

just read and appreciate the info given by mental mama
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Basky_indya:


Basky mama Divi seema is a hindu and he respects hinduism like most of us here
athaniki edo doubts vachi vesadu.
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daniki hinduism meeda paddadu anatam enti?
Athaniki kondaru individual brahmins ishtam lekapovochu .. ante gani totalga hating seyyadu .. chill ..
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Mental_sachinodu:


aithe MEE INTLO vallaki cheppuko....

ikaaada vacchii nee preaching endhi....naaku
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Mental_sachinodu:

well, the story is partly true. atleast, I dont know if its true, but this is what I know.

as far as I know, Bharathi is supposedly Saraswathi devi, born as bharathi due to the curse of dhurvasa.

Bharati says to Sankara, who was on the verge of winning over her husband.

"I am the other half of Mandana. You have defeated only one half of Mandana. Let us have a controversy".

Sankara then agreed, their duel went on uninterruptedly for seventeen days. Bharati passed from one Shastra to another. At last she found out that she could not defeat Sankara. She decided to defeat him by means of the science of Kama Shastra.
Sankara asked Bharati to give him an interval of one month for his preparation to hold controversy with her in Kama Shastra. She agreed. Sankara went to Kashi. He separated his astral body from his physical body by means of his Yogic powers and left his physical body in the hole of a big tree and asked his disciples to take care of that physical body. He then entered into the dead body of Raja Amaruka which was about to be cremated. The Raja rose up and all the people rejoiced at the astounding incident.
The ministers and queens soon found out that the revived Raja was a different person, with different qualities and thought. Therefore, messengers were sent out to search for a human body hidden somewhere in lonely forests and caves and to burn it when found. They thought that if they did so, the new Raja might remain with them for a long time.
Sankara was acquiring all the experience of love with his queens. In the midst, of those queens, Sankara entirely forgot all about his promises to his disciples about his going back to them. The disciples began to search for him. They heard about the miraculous resurrection of Raja Amaruka. They immediately proceeded to the city and had an interview with the Raja. They sang a few philosophical songs which revived the memory of Sankara. The disciples immediately repaired to the place where the physical body of Sankara was kept hidden. By that time the messengers of the queen had found out the physical body and had just begun to set fire to it. The soul of Sankara just then entered his own body. Sankara prayed to Lord Hari to help him. There was a shower of rain immediately and that extinguished the flames.
Then Sankara returned to the residence of Mandana Misra. He resumed the old controversy and answered all the questions raised by Bharati satisfactorily.

Maya according to Sankara is very powerful.

now to debate about the objectivity, and the act itself it will be a long task.




Well, apparently I didnt see this post of yours.
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Basky_indya:

MODS DELETE THIS THREAD IMMD




Basky brother,
you can find this topic in any adhi sankaracharyula vari charithra. this is not a topic that is demeans him or our culture. adhi sankaracharya glorified hinduism, if not for him hinduism would have been a history. his life is an excellent journey, if you chose to study.
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Basky_indya:

Please Ban divseema for provoking thread. On SANKARACHARYA.

SANKARACHARYA is the HEAD of the representation of the HINDUS.

Are u taking any action on that or not. I dont care about other religions,

but this thread is provoking.




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Please Ban divseema for provoking thread. On SANKARACHARYA.

SANKARACHARYA is the HEAD of the representation of the HINDUS.

Are u taking any action on that or not. I dont care about other religions,

but this thread is provoking.
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Mrhyderabad:

When he has powers to enter a foreign dead body and come back... why can't he put off the fire by himself?




Mrhyderabad,
nice question, but as per my understanding of a yogi, he has control of himself, that is his soul. He can detach himself from the worldly body(that is the physical body). He has that power but not the physical power to kill a person, or for that matter go fetch a cup of water to satisfy his physical urge of thirst. Without the help of vishnu, he could have detached himself from the body, he could have protected his soul, but could not have protected the physical body, which he has to return to, or find another body for his soul, but with this act it is more like taking a new birth.

The concept of Maya is advocated by sankaracharya is something i do not understand enough. may be i am missing something, the Maya that he seeks is not with physical elements anukuntunna. but again this is only my understanding.


Diviseema:

1st of all barathi adigina question correct aa na.



definetly a valid question. when you are claiming to be a person of knowledge, that covers every know sasthra, the sasthra of physical desires is also a valid subject.


Diviseema:

if so, how can any monk
or bhrammachari answer her in a more convincing way.



I think that was the whole premise of Bharathi, asking those questions to Sankara. How can he claim himself as the all knowing person if he does not know about something every being experiences?
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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Basky_indya:

MODS DELETE THIS THREAD IMMD


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//but coming from the perspective of the actual people involved, like the queens, what about them? How should they regard this act?//



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Mental_sachinodu:




Thanks for the explanation on the story ...

Your explanation negates Cocanada and Ishan's theory that he did not experience lust/maya :-)


Mental_sachinodu:

but coming from the perspective of the actual people involved, like the queens, what about them? How should they regard this act?




Excellent question ... Does the ends of winning the debate , justify the means in which it was done ?

What did Shankara acheive by resorting to subterfuge - other than preserving the celibacy of his body ?

And more importantly , is it not an implicit admission that his knowledge was not complete as a celibate ?
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Mrhyderabad:

When he has powers to enter a foreign dead body and come back...


logical ga alochinchu parakaya pravesam kooda edo oka mantram chedivithen avuddi .. Alage mantalni arpadam kooda oka naa?
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Mental_sachinodu:

but coming from the perspective of the actual people involved, like the queens
, what about them? How should they regard this act?




I am not sure about that, but as the story is told, all of the people in the kingdom knew that a noble soul entered the dead body of that king. So I assume even the queens know about the transmigration essentially because the king was dead.
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//Sankara was acquiring all the experience of love with his queens. In the midst, of those queens, Sankara entirely forgot all about his promises to his disciples about his going back to them//

edhi inka anyayam ga vundhi.

ayanadhi thappo , kaadho tharuvatha. 1st of all barathi adigina question correct aa na. if someone dosnt aquire sexual knowledge, he is not a complete learner annadhi. if so, how can any monk or bhrammachari answer her in a more convincing way.
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Mental_sachinodu:

Sankara prayed to Lord Hari to help him. There was a shower of rain immediately and that extinguished the flames.


Why?
When he has powers to enter a foreign dead body and come back... why can't he put off the fire by himself?
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Ishan:

Ayina he transmigrated the soul just to answer her questions, not because of the lust. I dont see any problem with that.




but coming from the perspective of the actual people involved, like the queens, what about them? How should they regard this act?
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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Anand_n:

does it mean that celibacy is for the body/mind and not the soul ?




Yes. Celibacy is for the mind. There is something that observes/controls controls the mind. Thats why meditation involves calming the clutter of the mind.

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Diviseema:

Sankaracharya through yoga goes to trance; he leaves his body and enter the body of sensuous king amaruka. with kings body sankaracharya exeperiances erotic love.




well, the story is partly true. atleast, I dont know if its true, but this is what I know.

as far as I know, Bharathi is supposedly Saraswathi devi, born as bharathi due to the curse of dhurvasa.

Bharati says to Sankara, who was on the verge of winning over her husband.

"I am the other half of Mandana. You have defeated only one half of Mandana. Let us have a controversy".

Sankara then agreed, their duel went on uninterruptedly for seventeen days. Bharati passed from one Shastra to another. At last she found out that she could not defeat Sankara. She decided to defeat him by means of the science of Kama Shastra.
Sankara asked Bharati to give him an interval of one month for his preparation to hold controversy with her in Kama Shastra. She agreed. Sankara went to Kashi. He separated his astral body from his physical body by means of his Yogic powers and left his physical body in the hole of a big tree and asked his disciples to take care of that physical body. He then entered into the dead body of Raja Amaruka which was about to be cremated. The Raja rose up and all the people rejoiced at the astounding incident.
The ministers and queens soon found out that the revived Raja was a different person, with different qualities and thought. Therefore, messengers were sent out to search for a human body hidden somewhere in lonely forests and caves and to burn it when found. They thought that if they did so, the new Raja might remain with them for a long time.
Sankara was acquiring all the experience of love with his queens. In the midst, of those queens, Sankara entirely forgot all about his promises to his disciples about his going back to them. The disciples began to search for him. They heard about the miraculous resurrection of Raja Amaruka. They immediately proceeded to the city and had an interview with the Raja. They sang a few philosophical songs which revived the memory of Sankara. The disciples immediately repaired to the place where the physical body of Sankara was kept hidden. By that time the messengers of the queen had found out the physical body and had just begun to set fire to it. The soul of Sankara just then entered his own body. Sankara prayed to Lord Hari to help him. There was a shower of rain immediately and that extinguished the flames.
Then Sankara returned to the residence of Mandana Misra. He resumed the old controversy and answered all the questions raised by Bharati satisfactorily.

Maya according to Sankara is very powerful.

now to debate about the objectivity, and the act itself it will be a long task.
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Eluri_kurradu:

Tarvatha Sarvadaman benerjee chesina shankaracharya sanskrit movie susa ..
that was more realistic ga undi..




Yeah...This is a very wellmade biopic :-)
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Diviseema:

after 18 days of debet mishra lost. Bharathi wants to save her husband. She said he must beat her also before sankaracharya claims the vicory over her husband. sankaracharya agrees. she asks him to accept you as the master of all learning you have to tell me about sex education. being a monk and only 16 yrs old he could not do it . he asks her 40 days of time to answer. she accepts.

Sankaracharya through yoga goes to trance; he leaves his body and enter the body of sensuous king amaruka. with kings body sankaracharya exeperiances erotic love.

edhi thappukadha. being a greatest monk ever , dosnt he know body is nothing and soul is everything, if he belives otherwise whats wrong in enjoying bodyly pleasures.




Bharathi was believed to be incarnation of goddess saraswathi. Ayina he transmigrated the soul just to answer her questions, not because of the lust. I dont see any problem with that.
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yes this book tells , how sankara charya countered budhism , which is on raise in india . Lord Budda opposed veda's ani kooda vundhi. at the same time he followed some of it.
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Anand_n:


anand ji 1980s lo oka movie release ayyindi (made in kannada dubbed in telugu)andule ide story undi .. Parvathi devi palivvadam .. parakaya pravesam lantivi chala unnayi ..
Tarvatha Sarvadaman benerjee chesina shankaracharya sanskrit movie susa ..
that was more realistic ga undi..
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ye kalam atanu sankaracharya?
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Cocanada:

pleasure is at physical level and mental level
entering some one else's body doesnt involve mind and body perhaps




I do not think that is quite accurate but even if we assume it is , does it mean that celibacy is for the body/mind and not the soul ?
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anand garu this is true . the evolution of thesim lo chadiva. written by SWaMI.B.G.NARASIMHA
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anand gari this is true . the evolution of thesim lo chadiva. written by SWaMI.B.G.NARASIMHA
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Eluri_kurradu:

but hinduism nilabettindi shankara charya ..




Idi true :-)


Bunty717:

nene ee bokk lo chadavaledu kani..chala mandi daggara vinna ee story



Diviseema:

dosnt he know body is nothing and soul is everything



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Diviseema:

can u explain



pleasure is at physical level and mental level
entering some one else's body doesnt involve mind and body perhaps
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inga kanchi swamiji anukunna ..

ee story lo truth telvad .. but hinduism nilabettindi shankara charya ..

aayana daiva swaroopam ..
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Anand_n:

Ee story telidu.. this is the first time I am hearing it. If the story is true as you quoted it , I have a lot of difficulty digesting it ...too many questions crop up :-)

Idi fact or fiction anedi telisina vallu evaraina clarify cheste better :-)




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How are you - long time :-)

Ee story telidu.. this is the first time I am hearing it. If the story is true as you quoted it , I have a lot of difficulty digesting it ...too many questions crop up :-)

Idi fact or fiction anedi telisina vallu evaraina clarify cheste better :-)
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//observing pleasure is different from experiencing pleasure
//

can u explain
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May be

observing pleasure is different from experiencing pleasure

:-)
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Oka book lo chadiva

Sankaracharya once had a debet with madana mishra. his wife bharathi is judge .

after 18 days of debet mishra lost. Bharathi wants to save her husband. She said he must beat her also before sankaracharya claims the vicory over her husband. sankaracharya agrees. she asks him to accept you as the master of all learning you have to tell me about sex education. being a monk and only 16 yrs old he could not do it . he asks her 40 days of time to answer. she accepts.

Sankaracharya through yoga goes to trance; he leaves his body and enter the body of sensuous king amaruka. with kings body sankaracharya exeperiances erotic love.

edhi thappukadha. being a greatest monk ever , dosnt he know body is nothing and soul is everything, if he belives otherwise whats wrong in enjoying bodyly pleasures.

Calling anand garu, nisarga, MS, ibviewer and others
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