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Guriginja
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Scallion:

meeru telangana prajelaki nithika madhatu ivandi




naithikamga yendi bedar..always full support..state and its people comes first..thanks for the links..if it is that serious..definate ga kummali..but some how still water gates nunchi venakki velthayi ante namma buddi kavatam ledu....downstram lo vundi SRS...river lo water venakki yela velthayi? manam chusthunna photos lo babli ki gates pedithe how will the water go backwards? may be I am not getting it...but antha darunam ayith kummali..wihout second thoughts....
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Guri annaya, any comments after reading those links, party affiliation to matlade Ravi anniyani vadileyandi, meeru telangana prajelaki nithika madhatu ivandi
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An irrigation engineer on condition of anonymity told TOI that the chances of Maharashtra drawing more than 7 tmc for irrigation purposes could not be ruled out though it keeps claiming that Babli is only 2.7 tmc capacity drinking water project. Interestingly, the SRSP water will reverse flow into Babli as its located at a 17.5 ft height above SRSP, he stated.


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/NEWS/City/Hyderabad/Mahar ashtra-quickens-pace-of-Babli-work-with-eye-on-polls/article show/4770206.cms
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Guriginja:

yendi bedar is it true.....I have never heard of a prject that has gates both ways, if this is true, intha varaku gammuntara....some what hard to believe, are you sure, yekkadanna link vunda, just to know more...nijamayithe intha serious issue in supreme court kuda tatsaram chesthunda?




Guri annayy, naa wify vala babai is SE at Sriramsagar dam, he told me that, I tried to google and got this.

http://daivalaravuru.blogspot.com/2008/12/stop-babli-project .html
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Ravino786:

nenu project soosanu just 2 TMC adhi migulu jalalu ...each year godavari water 80% unused and through our state welli samudram lokalustunayi.... godavari meedha inko 3-4 manollu inko 5 maharastra wallu projects kattukunna takkuve ....




Annaya, nuvu telisi chpthavo, telavaka chepthavo naaku theliyadu but Babli project initial ga started with 1070 ft. and capacity was 2.7 TMCs and now raised to 1091 ft. nuvu kanti chuputho decide chasavu 2 TMCs ani.
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balevadivi bedar....us lo agri leka povadam yemiti..that too in southern states, it is still big, what it adds to gdp might be less but again water ante vyasayam maatrame kaadu kada, akhariki inti lawns, car wash at home kuda ban chesaru GA lo, draught was that severe, but there was nothing the state could do to stop water release to Fl. I think they decreased the release but did not stop totally. That is only possible when a body that views both the states equally is in power. I think giving the dams to army is a very good measure, entrusting the security of dams to the home gaurds and peons working there is not a good idea anukunta



mana situation ki ikkadunna situation ki major differences unnayi mama.. Manaki draught anedi kotha kaadu also manaki scarcity anedi kuda koth kaadu.. OK if army takes over the control of water then who will they be answerable to? Ikkada ante commander in chief(president ki answerable) and inturn president is answerable to congress.. mana scenario lo ela workout avuthundi? even if army takes over how will they ensure that there wont be any dispersion in distribution of water..US is advanced country and they have other measures to fall back in case of emergency ..mana desam lo asalu backup options levu.. mana deggira 2 states lo draught osthe evariki ekkuva ivvali evariki ivvoddu ane decision teesukodaniki years together paduthundi..
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nenu project soosanu just 2 TMC adhi migulu jalalu ...each year godavari water 80% unused and through our state welli samudram lokalustunayi.... godavari meedha inko 3-4 manollu inko 5 maharastra wallu projects kattukunna takkuve ....

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Scallion:

They are not building to that capacity, they may end up at 7 to 9 TMCs but gates at Babli are designed to release water to the down area and also to take backwater from upstream




yendi bedar is it true.....I have never heard of a prject that has gates both ways, if this is true, intha varaku gammuntara....some what hard to believe, are you sure, yekkadanna link vunda, just to know more...nijamayithe intha serious issue in supreme court kuda tatsaram chesthunda?
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Getafix:

US lo vyavasaayam pedda industry kaadu kada kaani mana desam lo around 70% of populaiton directly or indirectly depends on agriculture..




balevadivi bedar....us lo agri leka povadam yemiti..that too in southern states, it is still big, what it adds to gdp might be less but again water ante vyasayam maatrame kaadu kada, akhariki inti lawns, car wash at home kuda ban chesaru GA lo, draught was that severe, but there was nothing the state could do to stop water release to Fl. I think they decreased the release but did not stop totally. That is only possible when a body that views both the states equally is in power. I think giving the dams to army is a very good measure, entrusting the security of dams to the home gaurds and peons working there is not a good idea anukunta.
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Guriginja:

40 TMC capacity kadatha




They are not building to that capacity, they may end up at 7 to 9 TMCs but gates at Babli are designed to release water to the down area and also to take backwater from upstream so Sriramsagar lo store chesina water ni kuda vadukonee avakasam vundi
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Thought the Maharasthra govt is saying the water storage capacity as 2.7 TMCs, the usage may be upto 40 TMCs.




40 TMC capacity kadatha under 3 TMC ani bonkadam chala kastamemo bedar...but 5, 7 TMC may be tru....projects/rivers state control lo vundatam valla....akkada oka structure raise ayye varaku yevariki bayata govt.s ki teliyadam ledu....once structure vacchina taruvatha cheyagaligedi yemi ledu...so addukovali ante initial stages lo possible and it is not possible with states being in control, so a central body is a necessasity here.
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Point to be noted is the gates at Babli are designed to release water to the down area and also to take backwater from upstream, This is the
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The real problem is stored water will flow back wards from Sriramsagar into Babli project if Babli opens their gates, this is because Sriramsagar is roughly 20Ft heigher so water may go back from Sriram Sagar to Babli.
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The real problem is stored water will flow back wards from Sriramsagar into Babli project if Babli, this is because Sriramsagar is roughly 20Ft heigher so water may go back from Sriram Sagar to Babli.
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Guriginja:

The supreme court is finding fault with maharastra and we can press the central govt to act, so an independent and central water tribunal, and projects into army hands is what is I think is apt.



US lo vyavasaayam pedda industry kaadu kada kaani mana desam lo around 70% of populaiton directly or indirectly depends on agriculture.. handing over the control on state waters to army or centralized agency would increase beaurocracy..inka decentralization ki meaning undadu if control on water is taken away..my view
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Maha Govt allocated Rs.150 Cr which is half the total budget for 2008-09 capacity increased from 5 TMCs to 7.5 TMCs, they may end up at 10 TMCs by the completion of project, and the real usage will be much more
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Guriginja:

Given the amount of godavari waters wasted every yr in to the sea, building a barrage to utilize 3 TMC of water is absolutely fine I guess. People are people every where and they must have the right to use it.




Thought the Maharasthra govt is saying the water storage capacity as 2.7 TMCs, the usage may be upto 40 TMCs.
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I am no expert but this is how Ifeel from the info available on the net.

first of all it is technically not a "project" (I mean not a dam, babli dam ani kuda stories vunnayi, adhi vere vishayam)..unlike almatti "dam" which is a big one, it is just a barrage, just like krishna barrage. The total capacity of the "project} is under 3TMC of water.

Given the amount of godavari waters wasted every yr in to the sea, building a barrage to utilize 3 TMC of water is absolutely fine I guess. People are people every where and they must have the right to use it. The prblem I see with Babli is that it is being built in the catchment area of sriram sagar for which our govt. has paid compensation yrs back. Compensation dabbulu save cheddam ani maharastra govt. kakruthi padi akkada katti natlu vundi. But a wrong is a wrong no matter of what size, but problems like this should be address at the beginning, when the project was first initiated. Intha duram vacchi yevadu chesedem ledu...politics kosam sollu tappithe....a 3 TMC babli is not to worry about at all (again, thats what I think, I am no expert)but it gives us a very good oppurtunity to address the issue so that it doesn't become a practice for all the states.

I just don't understand how can water resources be in state control). Im US the projects are in control of the army core of engineers. Last yr pedda godave ayyindi.....GA lo karuvu vunte FL ki water release chesthunnaru ani, but no politician can go beyond critisizing. I don't know if we have such wing our army, but the water tribunal should be independent/autonomous and the projects should be controled/ gaurded by the army...given the times and threats from anti social elements or from nuisence causing politicians like nagam and yakshi.

The supreme court is finding fault with maharastra and we can press the central govt to act, so an independent and central water tribunal, and projects into army hands is what is I think is apt.

DB lo pavala type tatlu kakunda....please post ur opinions. If you have access to well placed politicians/ beurocrats may be you can make the suggestion if you think it is the correct thing to do.
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