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Nisarga
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Username: Nisarga
Post Number: 137
Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 123.236.135.250
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, May 15, 2009 - 10:59 pm: | 
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Pplsuck:Anand and Nisa,
How are you guys? what you guys up to these dayshttp://www.chalanachithram.com/discus/icons/quote3.gif? just wanted to jump in and say 'hi'....I feel like I miss you all....Anand, Nisa, Neel, Jodha, Mikky and others....
good. thx. hope u will participate in this discussion  . |
Anand_n
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Username: Anand_n
Post Number: 4014
Registered: 02-2008
Posted From: 167.24.104.150
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Pplsuck:the best thing about philosophy is, it gets along with everything and anything.......prolly a lil bit of philisophy is omnipresent in everything and anything.....
It is the other way round - we can be philosophical about anything, even things that do not lend themselves to philosophical deliberation...my kids manage to do it with things like cleaning the dining table 
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
Pplsuck
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Username: Pplsuck
Post Number: 335
Registered: 07-2008
Posted From: 99.234.115.56
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, May 15, 2009 - 04:40 pm: |
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the best thing about philosophy is, it gets along with everything and anything.......prolly a lil bit of philisophy is omnipresent in everything and anything.....with or without our knowledge..... |
Anand_n
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Username: Anand_n
Post Number: 4009
Registered: 02-2008
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Pplsuck:
Dream on
I guess stock market trading and philosophy have to go together
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
Pplsuck
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Username: Pplsuck
Post Number: 329
Registered: 07-2008
Posted From: 99.234.115.56
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Still in the dreaming stage........don't know when/if it ever comes to fruition......fall back option kinda philosophy is always my friend in need :-)......... |
Anand_n
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Username: Anand_n
Post Number: 4007
Registered: 02-2008
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Pplsuck:so, whazzup?
Nothing much Bored of all the politics stuff so delving into philosophy
What's with you ? Made those millions, or was it zillions yet ?
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
Pplsuck
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Username: Pplsuck
Post Number: 320
Registered: 07-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, May 15, 2009 - 03:41 pm: |
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Anand,
Maree alaa direct gaa quote chestey em chepthaa.....when I said that, I mean...I mean....I mean........I have nothing to say........
so, whazzup? |
Anand_n
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Username: Anand_n
Post Number: 4005
Registered: 02-2008
Posted From: 167.24.104.150
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, May 15, 2009 - 03:16 pm: |
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Pplsuck:that's what I always felt
Yeah, right 
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
Pplsuck
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Username: Pplsuck
Post Number: 319
Registered: 07-2008
Posted From: 99.234.115.56
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Holy molly silly me....that's what I always felt.....Nisa doesnt belong there.....what a waste of my time having a word or two with him}........My bad......
Nisa, good luck with your pursuit of whatever it is you are looking for........
PS: Missing others still holds good......
E_K,
this is a thread for decent people.....please refrain from posting here.... |
Anand_n
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Username: Anand_n
Post Number: 4003
Registered: 02-2008
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Pplsuck:How are you guys? what you guys up to these days? just wanted to jump in and say 'hi'....I feel like I miss you all....Anand, Nisa, Neel, Jodha, Mikky and others....
How are you ?I am doing fine,still shaking and turning the kaleidoscope to see what patterns emerge
Talking of patterns, Nisarga does not conform to the pattern of your "missing " list- you may want to rethink missing him
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
Eluri_kurradu
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Username: Eluri_kurradu
Post Number: 5072
Registered: 02-2008
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Pplsuck:
annai channallaki vachavu??
Ekkado munigi ikkada tela |
Pplsuck
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Username: Pplsuck
Post Number: 318
Registered: 07-2008
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Anand and Nisa,
How are you guys? what you guys up to these days? just wanted to jump in and say 'hi'....I feel like I miss you all....Anand, Nisa, Neel, Jodha, Mikky and others.... |
Anand_n
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Username: Anand_n
Post Number: 4002
Registered: 02-2008
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Kalikaalam:
We can not understand beyond our thinking. Manaku thelisinatha lo ne realte chesukovadaaniki try chesthaamu. Mana burra u ardham kaanappudu 'mis understand' chesukontaamu.
It is very hard for the gurus to to try to explain something which can not be explainable in words.
That is the point - mana paradigm lo - we try to improve our understanding -
and a guru is one who can help you make that progress from one step to another..if he cannot then there is no point in accepting someone as a guru
Kalikaalam:Buthulu valana vachina ibbandi yemi ledu..athani ki nijam gaa sathyam thelisthe..
Guru - shishya is a two way relationship - Guru cheppedi , cheppe paddhati oka frequency ki , student reception inko frequency ki tune ayite there is no communications...
You will only be receptive to knowledge from someone you respect and accept as a guru : )And different people have different parameters for respect
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
Anand_n
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Username: Anand_n
Post Number: 4001
Registered: 02-2008
Posted From: 167.24.104.150
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, May 15, 2009 - 12:41 pm: |
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Nisarga:
if truth is pathless. then reaching the truth( what ever it means) is a chance. right?
Probably
Nisarga:
truth/nirvana/enlightenment:
1) a condition of selfless, just consciousness( without self or consciousness as in animals), emotionless,a neutral state in which no pain or happiness.
2) a condition in which one gets composure, is at peace with him/her self without losing the connection with worldly affairs.
I would call case 1 as hard nirvana and case 2 soft nirvana . I do not think many people really want enlightenment of this sort.
I guess that is a way to break up types of nirvana,but I do not think there are stages - more an all or nothing scenario maybe- halfway to truth is only halftruth - And I have not really heard people describe nirvana as a "neutral, emotionless, apathetic" state - And we cannot really make presumptions on what people want
Nisarga:
it is the soft nirvana/enlightenment that most people seek. they try to achieve this so that they can dominate peers and others more competently, to have sense of accomplishment, to efficiently self deceive and else deceive .
That is an oxymoron - if people are still trying to evaluate themselves in relation to others , they still need the comparison yardstick to assess themselves - they have not even touched the "n" in nirvana forget let alon acheive any kind of nirvana - soft or hard
Nisarga:
I would mean by 'condition' in either case as physical condition. it is good if the condition( the operating mechanism of enlightenment) can be triggered by a mental process or meditation. this may be possible in some people whose biological condition is readily conducive to it.
Did you see my comment on genetic disorder ... I have not ruled it out See scripture says that evolved souls find evolved wombs to take birth in --its a matrilineal descent ---I have flipped that around and questioned myself is it just a gene that is handed down via the X chromosome - a gene that predisposes one to "enlightenment" ? I have been chastised for being too rational ofcourse
Nisarga:In others' it may be possible if the biological condition can physically be altered. UG said genetic engineering or even LSD can be of more helpful to attain enlightenment .
And Patanjali said Kundalini yoga can do it
Nisarga:
I am virtually convinced that for a mental condition there may be a corresponding physical condition
Won't argue that - what I will question is which is the driver ?
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
Kalikaalam
Comedian
Username: Kalikaalam
Post Number: 1522
Registered: 01-2008
Posted From: 71.175.26.110
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, May 15, 2009 - 08:45 am: |
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//UG laga evarni boothulu thittaledu.//
Buthulu valana vachina ibbandi yemi ledu..athani ki nijam gaa sathyam thelisthe..
There used to be chinese master(I did not remember his name now). He is used to hit the people with hard wooden rod and enjoy their cryings. But most of the people consider him as a real master after Budha.. |
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