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Simhadri
Junior Artist Username: Simhadri
Post Number: 628 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 74.176.89.37
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 06:29 pm: |
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Newguy123:IJ ,KL lo ekkuva/takkuva vunna set teesukuni (let us say IJ) 3rd attempt lo I,J ni weigh cheste telusuddi kada..
emi telusuddi? K,L,M moodu migulutayi kada.. I J rendu equal unte? Ntr_Fan - pandu Simhadri - Laddu |
   
Newguy123
Side Hero Username: Newguy123
Post Number: 5116 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 155.91.28.231
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 05:29 pm: |
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Okatelugodu:
nenu cheppindi correct aa? kaada? |
   
Newguy123
Side Hero Username: Newguy123
Post Number: 5105 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 155.91.28.231
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 11:57 am: |
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Simhadri:etta? third attempt migilindi IJ not eqaul to KL...
IJ ,KL lo ekkuva/takkuva vunna set teesukuni (let us say IJ) 3rd attempt lo I,J ni weigh cheste telusuddi kada.. |
   
Simhadri
Junior Artist Username: Simhadri
Post Number: 575 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 68.219.218.217
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 11:54 am: |
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Newguy123:case 1.2 ayithe : lighter or heavier set (lets say IJ) rendu vidateesi weight cheste -- oddman telustundi
etta? third attempt migilindi IJ not eqaul to KL... etta telsutundi oddman? Ntr_Fan - pandu Simhadri - Laddu |
   
Sachin
Side Hero Username: Sachin
Post Number: 7778 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 144.29.1.16
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 11:50 am: |
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Simhadri:divide seyyi 6 and 6 ga..oka dantlo rendu same unte migilindi wt ekkuva...ledu edi ekkuva wt choopiste mallid idvide taht into half..3 and 3 ga...malli edi ekkuva soopitte okati vadilesi okadantlo okati inkodantlo okati etti sooseyyi...rendu equal unte...migilindi..ledante wt batti telispoddi..3 times lo U can find it..
nenu ide sepdaam anukunna... |
   
Newguy123
Side Hero Username: Newguy123
Post Number: 5104 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 155.91.28.231
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 11:48 am: |
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blocks ni 3 sets ga divide cheyali first set :ABCD second set : EFGH third set : IJKLM 1st attempt :ABCD,EFGH weigh cheyali ..rendu same weight ayithe lighter,heavier block in IJKLM 2nd attempt: case 1: ABCD=EFGH ayithe IJKLM ni IJ,KL,M ga divide cheyali..IJ,KL weigh cheyali IJ=KL ayithe -- go to 3rd attempt(case 1.1) IJ less than/greater tahn KL -- go to 3rd attempt (case(1.2) case 2: ABCD LT/GT EFGH ekkuva kaani,takkuva kaani weight vunna set ni tesukuni (let us say ABCD) A,B,CD ga divide cheyali: A ni B weigh cheyali, A=B ayithe (case 1.3) A lessthan or greater than B ayithe (case 1.4) 3rd attempt: case 1.1 ayithe : weigh M with any of the block (IJKL) -- M is oddman case 1.2 ayithe : lighter or heavier set (lets say IJ) rendu vidateesi weight cheste -- oddman telustundi case 1.3 ayithe : C ni D weigh cheste telisipoddi oddman block |
   
Okatelugodu
Side Hero Username: Okatelugodu
Post Number: 4992 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 98.221.49.98
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 11:23 am: |
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Linkmaster:if not equal, weigh 1 and 1, if it is equal, 3rd one is lighter
Akkada lighter or heavier teliyadu. Also which of the 3rd one will your pick from the 2 sets of 3 each that you picked? |
   
Simhadri
Junior Artist Username: Simhadri
Post Number: 565 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 205.174.22.26
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 11:20 am: |
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Linkmaster:1st lot: take 3,3 -- and weigh, if equal, put aside. if not equal, weigh 1 and 1, if it is equal, 3rd one is lighter.., or one of the may be equal.. done deal. if 6 are equal ones,2nd step: take another set of 6 (3, 3), if they are equal, left one is lighter.. if they are not equal, follow the 1st lot medthod.. u will find min 2 steps or max 3 steps..
abba cha..light oo more weight oo teliyadu akkada....ade kada problem.. Ntr_Fan - pandu Simhadri - Laddu |
   
Linkmaster
Side Hero Username: Linkmaster
Post Number: 6175 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 12.34.246.72
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 11:17 am: |
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Okatelugodu:If there are 13 wooden blocks of same dimenions, but 1 of them is lighter or heavier than the remaining 12. Given a common balance, how can you find the block with a different weight in just 3 weighings
looks very simple... If some one do not find out.. here is solution.. 1st lot: take 3,3 -- and weigh, if equal, put aside. if not equal, weigh 1 and 1, if it is equal, 3rd one is lighter.., or one of the may be equal.. done deal. if 6 are equal ones,2nd step: take another set of 6 (3, 3), if they are equal, left one is lighter.. if they are not equal, follow the 1st lot medthod.. u will find min 2 steps or max 3 steps.. "Reputation to be valued more than one's life".. Geetha
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Simhadri
Junior Artist Username: Simhadri
Post Number: 561 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 205.174.22.26
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 11:16 am: |
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Kish:Blocks theesthu weights choosthe weigh chesinattu kaada?
Kaadu... annai Min 2 times ye block lo defect undo kanukkotanike saripotundi out of 3 blocks...inka 13 blocks ni 3 times lo soodalante impossible...nenu seppinattu kakunda... Ntr_Fan - pandu Simhadri - Laddu |
   
Kish
Side Hero Username: Kish
Post Number: 6769 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 98.214.68.132
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 11:12 am: |
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Simhadri:5 weigings emi choodatledu...common balance lo trasu move avvaka pothe wt choosinattu kaadu...nuvvu 1 from each pan at a time teeyali
Blocks theesthu weights choosthe weigh chesinattu kaada?  Thodala Simha Reddy- Thodalogy- Bala thodalaku Oscar http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X74LqZ5drrE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apwimixGrbY |
   
Okatelugodu
Side Hero Username: Okatelugodu
Post Number: 4991 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 98.221.49.98
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 11:08 am: |
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Simhadri:5 weigings emi choodatledu...common balance lo trasu move avvaka pothe wt choosinattu kaadu...nuvvu 1 from each pan at a time teeyali..inthakante vere chance ledu annai...kavali ante answer kanukkuni cheppunri..
Tammudu telisthe sure ga cheptha. I couldn't think of anything better. |
   
Simhadri
Junior Artist Username: Simhadri
Post Number: 556 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 205.174.22.26
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 11:01 am: |
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Okatelugodu:Ila 6, 6 vundi unequal ga vunte if you keep on removing one each then you have to do 5 weghings in this process kadha + the fight 1 weghing. Someone asked me this question..
5 weigings emi choodatledu...common balance lo trasu move avvaka pothe wt choosinattu kaadu...nuvvu 1 from each pan at a time teeyali..inthakante vere chance ledu annai...kavali ante answer kanukkuni cheppunri.. Ntr_Fan - pandu Simhadri - Laddu |
   
Okatelugodu
Side Hero Username: Okatelugodu
Post Number: 4990 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 98.221.49.98
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 10:59 am: |
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Okatelugodu:the fight 1 weghing
first 1 weighing |
   
Okatelugodu
Side Hero Username: Okatelugodu
Post Number: 4989 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 98.221.49.98
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 10:58 am: |
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Simhadri:put 6 in one pan other 6 in remaining pan...wt lo theda unte trasu oka vaipuki ongi untundi..remove 1 from each pan..inka oka vaipuki onge unte remove 1 more from each pan...last ki okate migili untundi in each pan..
Ila 6, 6 vundi unequal ga vunte if you keep on removing one each then you have to do 5 weghings in this process kadha + the fight 1 weghing. Someone asked me this question.. |
   
Simhadri
Junior Artist Username: Simhadri
Post Number: 476 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 74.176.89.37
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 07:47 pm: |
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Okatel annai nen seppindi right ye kada...other than that vere chnace ye ledu kanukkoniki...prize emanna iyali anukunte seppei..mohamatam padanu teesukoneeki.. Ntr_Fan - pandu Simhadri - Laddu |
   
Simhadri
Junior Artist Username: Simhadri
Post Number: 474 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 74.176.89.37
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 07:03 pm: |
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okkasari salanukuntunna..put 6 in one pan other 6 in remaining pan...wt lo theda unte trasu oka vaipuki ongi untundi..remove 1 from each pan..inka oka vaipuki onge unte remove 1 more from each pan...last ki okate migili untundi in each pan..appatiki trasu onge unte....first vadilesina okati perfect kabatti.danitho migilina rendu ni comapre chesi edi defect undo kankkovachu 3times kante ekkuva sooadtle wt ni.. Ntr_Fan - pandu Simhadri - Laddu |
   
Kish
Side Hero Username: Kish
Post Number: 6755 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 98.214.68.132
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 05:13 pm: |
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Okatelugodu:The catch here if you donot know if the odd block is heavier or lighter. All you know is that it is of different weight..
 Thodala Simha Reddy- Thodalogy- Bala thodalaku Oscar http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X74LqZ5drrE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apwimixGrbY |
   
Proline
Side Hero Username: Proline
Post Number: 2193 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 170.22.76.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 05:12 pm: |
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Simhadri:
akkada odd one "more" ani cheppaledu.... "more" or "less" annadu... either more or less annadi kooda prove cheyali within 3 attempts... so it is bit difficult. ... |
   
Okatelugodu
Side Hero Username: Okatelugodu
Post Number: 4987 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 98.221.49.98
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 05:11 pm: |
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Kish:Let's say one side is lighter- then we have eliminated 7 blocks
The catch here if you donot know if the odd block is heavier or lighter. All you know is that it is of different weight.. |
   
Simhadri
Junior Artist Username: Simhadri
Post Number: 472 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 205.174.22.26
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 05:10 pm: |
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Okatelugodu:Odd ga vunnadi...can be lighter or heavier. So which of the six can we pick?
oh ok..idi okatunda..intiki potunna..intikelli postutha annai answer... Ntr_Fan - pandu Simhadri - Laddu |
   
Okatelugodu
Side Hero Username: Okatelugodu
Post Number: 4986 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 98.221.49.98
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 05:09 pm: |
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Simhadri:...ledu edi ekkuva wt choopiste mallid idvide taht into half..3 and 3 ga
Odd ga vunnadi...can be lighter or heavier. So which of the six can we pick? |
   
Kish
Side Hero Username: Kish
Post Number: 6753 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 98.214.68.132
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 05:08 pm: |
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6 on one side and 6 on other side- if both are equal then 13th one is lighter weight Let's say one side is lighter- then we have eliminated 7 blocks then 3 on one side and 3 on other- heavier side 3 are eliminated Now we have 3- one on one side and one on another side- if both are equal then 3rd one is lighter else lighter side block is lighter! We only need 3 weighings!  Thodala Simha Reddy- Thodalogy- Bala thodalaku Oscar http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X74LqZ5drrE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apwimixGrbY |
   
Simhadri
Junior Artist Username: Simhadri
Post Number: 469 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 205.174.22.26
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 05:05 pm: |
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Okatelugodu:If there are 13 wooden blocks of same dimenions, but 1 of them is lighter or heavier than the remaining 12. Given a common balance, how can you find the block with a different weight in just 3 weighings
divide seyyi 6 and 6 ga..oka dantlo rendu same unte migilindi wt ekkuva...ledu edi ekkuva wt choopiste mallid idvide taht into half..3 and 3 ga...malli edi ekkuva soopitte okati vadilesi okadantlo okati inkodantlo okati etti sooseyyi...rendu equal unte...migilindi..ledante wt batti telispoddi..3 times lo U can find it.. Ntr_Fan - pandu Simhadri - Laddu |
   
Okatelugodu
Side Hero Username: Okatelugodu
Post Number: 4985 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 98.221.49.98
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 05:00 pm: |
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Proline:yedo okati pick cheyi...puzzle ez avutadi
Edo okati kadu. Question is when you are not sure if it's heavier or lighter. Just know that it has a different weight |
   
Proline
Side Hero Username: Proline
Post Number: 2190 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 170.22.76.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 11:23 am: |
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Proline:now measure 3(1) vs 3(2) if not equal then one of them has odd man. now measure 3(3) and determine single one weight and which one has odd one from 3(1) and 3(2). pick the odd one and take two from them and measure...if equal then the third one is odd one...if not then you already know the odd one (compare with single one weight)
this is not a separate measure but the follow up of the first measure ... |
   
Proline
Side Hero Username: Proline
Post Number: 2189 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 170.22.76.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 11:21 am: |
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divide them into 3(1), 3(2), 3(3), 3(4) and 1(x) groups (four groups of each containing 3 and 1 group with one). now measure 3(1) vs 3(2) if not equal then one of them has odd man. if equal then (note down single one weight 3(1)/3) proceed to 3(3) vs 3(4)...if euqal then 1(x) is odd man...if not then. determine which one is not equal to 3(1)/3 times 3 in 3(3) and 3(4)...and that one has odd man (so far we had two measures). now take the odd one from 3(3) and 3(4)...let us say 3(3)...then take two from 3...and measure it...if equal then the other one is odd...if not equal then you already know the odd one (compare with 3(1)/3). now measure 3(1) vs 3(2) if not equal then one of them has odd man. now measure 3(3) and determine single one weight and which one has odd one from 3(1) and 3(2). pick the odd one and take two from them and measure...if equal then the third one is odd one...if not then you already know the odd one (compare with single one weight) ... |
   
Proline
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Post Number: 2188 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 170.22.76.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 11:12 am: |
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Okatelugodu:lighter or heavier
yedo okati pick cheyi...puzzle ez avutadi ... |
   
Okatelugodu
Side Hero Username: Okatelugodu
Post Number: 4984 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 98.221.49.98
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 10:59 am: |
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If there are 13 wooden blocks of same dimenions, but 1 of them is lighter or heavier than the remaining 12. Given a common balance, how can you find the block with a different weight in just 3 weighings |