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Ibviewer:




chetana ante thelivi/intelligence ani kooda use chestharu.
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Mario_Puzo,

\quote[naku telisi conscious ki true translation "bahya chetana".....sub-cons is "antah chetana" and un-cons is achetanam}

Chetana means movement.

This reminds me of Bartruhari Sloka:
edachetanopi padai sprashtaha
prajwalathi saviturinikanthaha
tattejaswee purushaha
parakrutha nikrutham kadam sahathe
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Anand_n:

Chitta




chetana ante soul correct. Chitta ante knowledge. yeah you can take it as one's inner knowledge.
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I thought Chitta is the root of Chetana... chaitanya...>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

yes in a way.......chaitanyam ante malli telivi/pranam kada!.......kani chittam ki dictionary meaning aite manasu/madi.....
enduku????simpulu!!!!

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Mario_puzo:

chetana




I thought Chitta is the root of Chetana... chaitanya...
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Mario_puzo:

chitta sudhi



chitta suddiga cheyyadam ante manasupoorthi ga cheyyadam.
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nenu chitta sudhi ante dedication, concentration >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

yes chitta suddhi ante arthama ade, kani chittam anite manasu/madi.......chitta suddi to cheyyatam ante, manasu lagnam chesi cheyyatam annattu vyutpatyardham........ikkada anand chitta ante manasu ane meaning teeskunnattunaru.......naku artham kale foortiga
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naku telisi conscious ki true translation "bahya chetana".....sub-cons is "antah chetana" and un-cons is achetanam
enduku????simpulu!!!!

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Anand_n:




nenu chitta sudhi ante dedication, concentration ki close anukunnna. i may be wrong. prayer lo chitta shuddi nate ade meaning vastundi kada ?
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Jkm:

close to manassakshi , antharathma




Ivvi conscience kada :-) Chitta is the word I was looking for :-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Anand_n:

Is there a better telugu word for Consciousness than antaratma ?




close to manassakshi , antharathma
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Ibviewer:

A better word is Chitta

Haven't you heard Chitta shuddi leni shiva pooja lelaraa...?




Thanks :-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Anand,


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Iamim,
Is there a better telugu word for Consciousness than antaratma ?




A better word is Chitta

Haven't you heard Chitta shuddi leni shiva pooja lelaraa...?

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bit busy.. willbe back
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Antaratma cheduga aloochinchinappudu kooda manam antaratma ni anusaristhe appudu kooda Nirvanam vastunda?




Consciousness is never wrong, it is the mind which inteprets it wrongly..SO you have to get past the mind ...Consciousness has never given me a selfish/selfess answer so far- just the right answer..
If you are talking about antaratma as conscience - maybe my translation was wrong ...

Iamim,
Is there a better telugu word for Consciousness than antaratma ?
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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All ideologies are idiotic, whether religious or political, for it is conceptual thinking, the conceptual word, which has so unfortunately divided man. -JKM
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Jkm:

but stick to your promises.




Yeah, commit ayyaka you have to fulfil those - I will also add a caveat to that, if a circumstances change you need to be flexible enough to re-evaluate those promises, accept that it was a mistake and take a hit if needed :-)Pran jaaye par vachan na jaaye is ok if it impacts only your pran , not if it is detrimental to others around you :-)

But if your opinions are fixed , that means there is no room for new knowledge to add growth :-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Anand_n:

Ante mana antaratme manaki guruvu, aa antaratma cheppedi vini follow avute...




Antaratma cheduga aloochinchinappudu kooda manam antaratma ni anusaristhe appudu kooda Nirvanam vastunda?
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Anand_n:

To change, first you have to change your opinion




Yes to change, we have to change our opinions. its okay to change opinions. but stick to your promises. sentence thappu ayina bhavam ardham ayi vuntundi anukuntunna.
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Iamim:

Hindutva




What does this word mean ?
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Jkm:

A consistent thinker is a thoughtless person, because he conforms to a pattern; he repeats phrases and thinks in a groove. -JKM




JKM quotes chaduvuthunnanu. just post veyyalanipinchindi anthe. evarni vuddesinchi vesina post kaadu.
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AOL sangathi pakkana pedithe.. what I like about Ravi sir is that he never hesitates to openly pronounce his Hindutva leanings.. yet he has acceptance in all religions...
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Jkm:

A consistent thinker is a thoughtless person, because he conforms to a pattern; he repeats phrases and thinks in a groove. -JKM


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Jkm:

A consistent thinker is a thoughtless person, because he conforms to a pattern; he repeats phrases and thinks in a groove. -JKM




Good one - Another one...though not from JKM -have not read much of him...

To change, first you have to change your opinion :-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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A consistent thinker is a thoughtless person, because he conforms to a pattern; he repeats phrases and thinks in a groove. -JKM
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Risingstar:




Consciousness : antaratma
Inexorably : Slowly but surely , inevitably
Heed : pay attention

Ante mana antaratme manaki guruvu, aa antaratma cheppedi vini follow avute...it will show us the path to nirvana ani nana nammakam :-)

Did that help ?
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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quote:

eeyana Sri Sri Ravishankar.




I think it is Sri Sri Sri Ravishankar...
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mee gurinchee..

I beleive that our consciousness will inexorably lead us to that path of that enlightenment if we heed it

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konchem pamarulaki artham ayyee english loo raayandi




Are you talking about me ? Na language/vocabulary chala simple ga untundi kada ? Emi ardham avvaledu ?
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Mrhyderabad:

I heard ALCHEMIST is also of the same genre.




Have not read the Monk who seld his ferrari...

Alchemist chadivanu - loved it ...but it appeals only if you understand the philosophical angle - or rather you agree with it - lepote digest avvadu...

Read his Zahir too - again loved that one as well :-)
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jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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konchem pamarulaki artham ayyee english loo raayandi
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Ibviewer:

Well there are others who say that there is no need of any guru. Be a light unto ourself.




I am one of them :-)I beleive that our consciousness will inexorably lead us to that path of that enlightenment if we heed it :-) Some say a guru speeds up the process ..but I think I'd rather let it happen at its own pace :-)At this point I treat it like a treasure hunt ...My consciousness(to me my divine Mother Gauri) gives me clues and I skip along merrily unravelling those to the next clue..As for a lil kid on a easter egg hunt, the search is as much fun as finding the treasure I think

I do touch a lot of people's feet - it is a mark of respect and acceptance that they have something to teach me...the other day we were discussing Amma Amritanandamayi - she does not let anyone touch her feet either but hugs everyone who visits her :-)



Ibviewer:

A real guy should reciprocate by touching their feet.




But I agree with what you are saying in principle - a guru who cannot subjugate his own ego teaching disciples to do it does not make sense -but looking at it from a pure worldly angle - if a guru bows to another guru - his disciples defect to the other camp seeing him as superior - so it becomes a matter of survival I guess ..

Also , the individual egos of most people prevent them from seeing another as a guru if he prostrates to them so the Guru has to maintain a higher elevation for his teachings to be received well, even if he does not think himself superior :-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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THE MONK WHO SOLD HIS FERRARI - ee book evaraina chadivaara?

I have started reading few days ago.. but kept it away after few chapters.

I heard ALCHEMIST is also of the same genre.
Perception is immune to Intellectual Correction ...
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//AOL ante Interent connection company kaadaa/??//

I am sorry .My bad. I got it. Art of Living ni AOL annaaranna maata
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//I am talking about SKY (Sudarshan Kriya Yoga) taught by AOL//

Idento ardham kaaledandi/ yemanna web link vundaa?? AOL ante Interent connection company kaadaa/??
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Anand,


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So I guess the trick is to find someone who you can learn from




Provided you believe in enlightenment.

Well there are others who say that there is no need of any guru. Be a light unto ourself.

A real guru is the one who will free himself from the disciples.

When Medhananda was in Bay Area while others fell at his feet but I did not.

A real guy should reciprocate by touching their feet.

Jiddu Krishnamurti will not allow anyone to touch his feet and will reciprocate in case someone touches his feet.
And also he is against individual worship and cult following.
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Ibviewer:

Yes these spiritual businessmen promise enlightenment in a short time.




There are some like Swami Chinmayananda who don't.

They clearly say there is no shortcut ,and they do not show miracles - all they promise is that they will give you the tools - but you have to do the work...And I don't remember anyone in the family paying Swami Chinmayananda or Swami Dayananda much other than an occasional pair of kashaya vastralu and bhiksha(food at home)...Ofcourse he had the ultrarich followers ,who made sizeable donations to the Chinmaya mission and that's a huge organisation as well ...

So I guess the trick is to find someone who you can learn from :-) All these gurus have great knowledge and I really respect them for that part and they have the ability to make so many millions follow them - no mean feat :-)
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....but it grates on me when they promise a shortcut to enlightenment




Yes these spiritual businessmen promise enlightenment in a short time.
They say "you are almost there...just little more effort".
Have they produced any enlightened person?
And what will this newly enlightened person do?
Start another holy business? and not work for the parent organization?

In this Holy Business they promise enlightenment but never fulfill it.
A street vendor selling dosa will immediately deliver what he promised or a prostitute fulfills your desire for the money taken.
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A "Never Before Event" of 2.5 million people. In Silence and Celebration




Chusanu video idivaraku - AOL does a lot of social work across the world - anduke kada peace prize nomination annaru ...

That is the good side of these orgs , whether AOL, Sathya sai, Isha , Amma's trust - they do a lot of humanitarian work - especially hospitals etc..so atleast part of the money goes to good causes :-)
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A "Never Before Event" of 2.5 million people. In Silence and Celebration
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HZmlI0tZ5k
Art of Living's Silver Jubilee celebrations at Jakkur airfield, Bangalore, India on Feb 17,18 & 19 of 2006


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tamud annaav kadhaa nannu...naa peru meedha oka rendu kotlu raayi..ledhante thread print out theesi court lo case edathaa... D.
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A "Never Before Event" of 2.5 million people. In Silence and Celebration
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HZmlI0tZ5k
Art of Living's Silver Jubilee celebrations at Jakkur airfield, Bangalore, India on Feb 17,18 & 19 of 2006
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Ibviewer:

So far I haven't spent a single penny on any of these products.




Me neither... don't believe I have to pay/attend courses to find the road to nirvana :-)


Inner Engineering is a yoga and meditation program I believe :-) Name appeals to the educated market I guess...

Yoga , meditation, pranayama are ancient scientific practices - anta varaku nerpi fees teesukunte I do not have a problem with that but it grates on me when they promise a shortcut to enlightenment:-)

I vaguely remember a Swami Chinmayananda lecture " I can teach you the scripture, I can tell you the yogic practices but you have to find God/Enlightenment ... people come and ask me - can you show me the light and I tell them - sure tell me what color and I will get the right bulb :-)"
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Kalki Bhagawan greatness emiti ante ayina bhaktulani ayinato bandhavyam pettukomantaru



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luckily for her , her only child is also a big bhakt and did not contest :-)



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Maa bava thammudu kalki bhagwan poojalu cheshi rodduna paddadu.. enni cheppinaa inle.. infact maa mama still believes in kalki.. vaalla intlo pedda photo untadi. aa photo unna room ki nenu raanu ani cheppeshnaa..


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maa family lo saanaa mandhi kalki fans...chaalaa violent ga maa chetha poojal cheyyinchaal ani try sethaar...nenu jump@jilani antaan....kurrol heart ki theesukuntaar...
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Latest ga inkoka Guru gurinchi telisindi




I heard of him several years back but somehow I did not develop any interest in him. He calls it inner "engineering". Why they use technological terms to sell their spiritual products?

So far I haven't spent a single penny on any of these products.
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Guttonkay:

One family forced their daughter to marry one of the assistants of kalki bagawan and made her quit college.




This happened with Sai baba and a guy I know - he married baba's choice and that turned out to be a horrible decision :-(

Kalki Bhagawan greatness emiti ante ayina bhaktulani ayinato bandhavyam pettukomantaru - see me as a brother, son, friend type...oka telisinavida koduku anukoni - asthi lo vata raasi icharu :-) She finds joy in that - luckily for her , her only child is also a big bhakt and did not contest :-)
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Onkai gaaru.. Maa bava thammudu kalki bhagwan poojalu cheshi rodduna paddadu.. enni cheppinaa inle.. infact maa mama still believes in kalki.. vaalla intlo pedda photo untadi. aa photo unna room ki nenu raanu ani cheppeshnaa..
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Jkm:

work and spiritual activities ekkuva ayinayi thammud. 3 months DB lo blood boil chesukoni post veyyakoodadu anukunna.



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Ibviewer:

I spoke to some of his foolish followers who work in some good technology companies like Cisco in Bay Area.
When I raised some questions they were shivering because the foundations of their beliefs are shaken. They whispered in my ear not to raise questions as they will loose the "potential" customers.




Let them be :-) They finds solace in their beliefs and think a guru's blessing is the magic pill for all their ills (real or imaginatry ) ...

And they are willing to pay for that ...there is no extortion -:-)

Latest ga inkoka Guru gurinchi telisindi - Sadhguru Jaggi Vasudev - of Isha yoga foundation - read a book written by a follower :-) Liked the philosophy he propounds - very close to my own :-)

But I am not looking for a Guru and he has the same high cost programs etc...and he claims to be better that the lady's other gurus - so that ticked me off :-)

Have another book by him in the mail - will update after I read it :-)
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B: maree mukkusootiga kochhens adigithe oniki poraa?




Adigithe alaa adagaali ledaa kutta musukovaali
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poyinollaki dannam pettina okay bathikunna vallu, yemi mahimalu choopaleni vallaki dannam pettatam ento nakartham kaadu. ammagaarlu, baba garulu, anta bhootakam. tini balavadam, kashtallo vunde vallani vadukovadam.

I know people who were directly affected by kalki bagawan, not in the good way. One family forced their daughter to marry one of the assistants of kalki bagawan and made her quit college. I so wanted kalki bagawan to end up in jail in those days.
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you have to stand in a queue and touch his feet and beg for wishes.




IB: maree mukkusootiga kochhens adigithe oniki poraa?
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enti annai
ee madhya bothiga black poosa ayipoyaav... ;)




work and spiritual activities ekkuva ayinayi thammud. 3 months DB lo blood boil chesukoni post veyyakoodadu anukunna.
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Hey remember Swami Nithyananda - the guru you posted speeches from

His org has really grown now




Good memory!
I mentioned about him about 2.5 to 3 years ago.
He is also following a similar model of Kalki Bhagavan.
He also has a 21 day program in Bangalore for which he charges $5000.
One foolish guy from Silicon Valley attended it.
Nithyananda is now in USA on a tour.
For one day Kalpataru program he charges $150 in which you have to stand in a queue and touch his feet and beg for wishes.
And he also has a weekend Yogaspurana program for which he charges $750.

He is still a boy and he will make big money soon!

I spoke to some of his foolish followers who work in some good technology companies like Cisco in Bay Area.
When I raised some questions they were shivering because the foundations of their beliefs are shaken. They whispered in my ear not to raise questions as they will loose the "potential" customers.
One of the "senior" disciples of Nithyananda called Meghananda came to BayArea and I embarrassed him with questions. He worked in StarBucks in Seattle before he took to Sanyas.
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enti annai
ee madhya bothiga black poosa ayipoyaav... ;)
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but i have a question. why people form groups to goto thirupathi & sabari malai? why not same lord venkateswara temple in hyd ? why mecca and vatican city ? isn't it social spiritual networking ?




There is a saying the nearer the temple farther the god
So people like to go on a pilgrimage to far off places.

Also in Thirupathi there are many prostitutes.
People throng that place for that reason also.
GOD is indirectly encouraging them because that is what he wants!
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Hey remember Swami Nithyananda - the guru you posted speeches from :-)

His org has really grown now - Have a cousin and her husband who are staunch follower - went on pilgrimage tour with him paying Rs.1 lakh per person :-)

People are really willing to shell out the money nowadays even in India :-) Kalki bhagawan ki dabbulu dhara posinavallu kuda unnaru family lo :-)
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nenu Baba ramadev fan kaadu ani chaduvuko.
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Baba ramadev fans aa meeranthaa....




nenu Baba ramadev kaadu thammud. congrats thwaralo pappannam peduthunnav ga..
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..gorrela manda laga velithe..vaadu atlage treat chesi sollesi..cash chesukuntunnadu..anduke annaremo..one can't ride your back untill it is bent ani...




As long as these "gorrelu" exist there is a market for these holy businessmen.
Among these foolish men even doctors, engineers, IT professionals are these.

These is a holy businessman Kalki Bhagavan who charges $3000 for a 21 day program. The application fee is an additional $500
For level 1 course see details:
https://www.onenessnorthamerica.org/detailtemplate.cfm?catID =2799
Apart from these you have to pay your own flight+hotel+other expenses
It is alleged that a Lehyam is mixed in the food served and the foolish followers get some strange hallucinations giving a false belief that they are close to enlightenment.
They conduct this program in Fiji Islands because if they conduct these programs in USA they will be caught by FBI.

Here is the criminal :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX221HPi3C0

I said 3 years back in Idlebrain Discussion Board that society is need of prostitutes and not holy men.

There is a skeptic James Randi who challenged any psychic/spiritual/holy person to come forward and show the spiritual power. He offered one million dollars as a reward to whoever and not one fellow came forward.



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Baba ramadev fans aa meeranthaa....
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Kalikaalam:

Art of Livng is nothing but the spiritual Networking business(like AMWAY)




spiritual Networking business AMWAY? no comments from me.
but i have a question. why people form groups to goto thirupathi & sabari malai? why not same lord venkateswara temple in hyd ? why mecca and vatican city ? isn't it social spiritual networking ?
There are "no easy answers" in our believes and what we do in our life.
let me tell you. AOL is for people who can afford to spend or waste.
take it as attending a management course or health wellbeing course.
well its expensive. i agree. but thats totally a different topic to comment.
i think AMWAY is an illegal business.
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ledu avi vere vaallaki cheppakudadu..chepthe manaki pani cheyadanta annadu..it seems that that what he was told..not to reveal it to anyone if he want to be benifitted from this....




LOL - yeah nenu anduke vellaledu : ) I was going to go to learn SKY -so I could teach the rest of the family later - but ee Non-disclosures etc. unnayi ani light teesukunna :-)

But to put it in perspective - mana desam lo philosophy ade kada - oka mantropadesam teesukunte adi inka evariki cheppakudadu- chepte the mantra ceases to have power for you ani peddalu cheppatam chala sarlu vinnanu -I never did understand that :-)Mythology lo mantram leak cheste tala mukkalu avvatam lantivi unnayi kada - precedents to AOL policy
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A guy who makes money by selling idly/dosa on a street in India is more honest than these scoundrels.




absolutely I 2nd this....oka telisnathanu velladu okasari 300 or so pay chessi....300 katti yem nerchukunnarandi ante....ya it was very godd annadu...what was good?..cheppandi ani casual gane adiganu.....ledu avi vere vaallaki cheppakudadu..chepthe manaki pani cheyadanta annadu..it seems that that what he was told..not to reveal it to anyone if he want to be benifitted from this....naku sound ledu.....intha sadivi...intha duram vacchi idendera anukunna...vadidemi tappu ledule...gorrela manda laga velithe..vaadu atlage treat chesi sollesi..cash chesukuntunnadu..anduke annaremo..one can't ride your back untill it is bent ani...
YSR ZINDABAD...YSR 2009.
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Kalikaalam:

Art of Livng is nothing but the spiritual Networking business(like AMWAY)




You are talking about Art Of Living the organization - I am talking about SKY (Sudarshan Kriya Yoga) taught by AOL.Philosophical differences with AOL apart , I can say this with conviction...

SKY works - ofcourse SKY kadu Ujjaini, bhastrika pranyama cheste kuda work avutundi - but SKY is the fast food version of pranayama ... that people find easy to do ... Especially for the clinically depressed ...its an excellent non-drug intervention...
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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simply putting

Art of Livng is nothing but the spiritual Networking business(like AMWAY)
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Nneu art of living mida research cheyyaledu kaani. aa programme ski attend ayina vaalla mida chesaanu. Paiga naa family friends ye vellaru kaabatti, vellina tharvaatha, vallu "mmeu baagaa maaripoyaamu" ani cheppina tharvaatha vaalla kids thonu, spouse thonu baaga ainteview lu chesaanu. andaru nethi, noru kottukontu'samthunnaadu. Mammalni kuda pidichi thisukellaadu. Yyana gola pada leka vellaamu. yemannaa nate baadha padathaadu ani memeu kudaa yedo alaa laaginchesthunnaamu"

Idoka AMWAY business type.
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full details naaku theliayvu. Kanai money suckers ane feelign naaku kaligindi. Naaku thelisina vaalla lo4 members yi programame ki vellaaru. Inkaa vleuthunnaaru.
5 paisalu change kanapadaledu. Prathi "sitting' ki yentho kontha mutta chebuthu vuntaaru."Maaku chaalaa vupayogam jarigind" ani chebuthaaru. anthaa vattide. Vaalla lo maarpu vasthe manam easy kaa sense cheyyagaluguthaamu. aa programme ki vellaka muncdu, vellinaak kuda vaalla lo same frustarions, height of egoism, same tensions, same greediness.... yemi maaraledu."maripoyaamu" ane kotha egoism start ayyindi.
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Guttonkay:




Well said ...:-)

SKY has shown beneficial results for a couple of friends who were in depression - but it has to be practised daily for atleast 3 months ...

For such people it is more than worth the money they pay for it - the difficult part is to keep doing it regularly :-)
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jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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//but never cared.


You did right.
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At the end of the day it's the individual's responsibility to practice whatever they learned in any class (gym, yoga, SKY, whatever) on a daily basis. If you make the choice to not practice at home, it doesn't matter you paid $600 or $60, it's not the fault of nobody else but you. Most of us end up not practicing whatever we learn. We print endless reams of papers of documentation, tips and all that and they just pile up on the desk.
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Mrhyderabad:

dost okadu ramdev program ki 600 per couple pay chesi velladu...




Vellalsina avasaram ledu kada - he demonstrates pranayama and ayurvedic solutions regularly on TV and also his DVD's are dirt cheap ..there is no secrecy or patent rules about it - he teaches yoga and pranayama - not a mystical/spiritual panacea :-)

AOL India lo kuda expensive anipistundi - Rs.750 for the intitial course na 1250 for the advanced ..

I believe now children's summer camps are big in Bangalore :-)
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"apan lane change karenge......kal se satsang pravachan start karenge......"
"....edhey log aate hain, pair pakadte hain, paisa bhi deke jaate hain!!!"
"white collar ka dhandha hai, police ka lafdaa nahin hai, koi locha nahin hai.....income tax ki jhanjhat bhi nahin hai......"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tA9RHNx28Ww&feature=related
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Mallik:

What ELSE can be there other than peace of mind, joy and happiness..




course lo konni fun and funny games vuntayi. strangers tho manassu vippi matladali. oka lady (30+ age) eyes loki 10 mins chooda mannaru. she did the same to me.
tharvatha "Can you accept her as your friend for life time " ani adigaru. yes ani cheppa. she did the same.
course ayipoyaka nenu aamiki call cheyyaledu. aame naaku call cheyyaledu.
inko game. nee partner ni "who are you" ani oka 50 times adagali. she will ask you the same question. each time you have to give different answer.
answers she said.
my name is so and so.
i am an indian.
I am maharashtrian
i am from bombay
i am human being who loves dogs
i am mom.
i am a wife
i am a sister to 2 bros
i am a daughter
......
ila 50 answers. imagine torture ante torture.
inka chala vunnayi.
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MrHyderabad,


quote:

Anubhavinchu ee vybhogham
Vayasu mudiri poyaake viragyam




Also there is a saying

neetulu cheppe musalallu
ninna monnati kurralu...


and also

kaami gaani vaadu
moksha gaami kaaledu...


AOL is started by Sri Sri RaviShankar who is using ancient yoga practices to make money.
America imported Yoga more than 100 years ago.
There is nothing new that AOL offers. The breathing techniques are already there. Breathing only increases oxygen flow to body.
You can also invent a breathing technique and it will have similar benefits.

You don't have to pay money to learn to breath..
Tomorrow you end up paying money to learn to shhhittt and fuxckkkking.

And coming to art of living...
Do you need to pay money to know how to live?
Does a bird or fish ask the art of living?

Sri Sri Ravishankar is a spiritual entrepreneur like Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Kalki Baghavan, Sai Baba and other cheaters.

A guy who makes money by selling idly/dosa on a street in India is more honest than these scoundrels.
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AOL chala costly program....usual ga weekend sessions untaayi......malli andulo grades kuda untaayi....

grade 2 register aithe grade 1 sessions free ga vellochu....ila..

americans egabadataaru ee program ki...
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Anand_n:

Baba Ramdev




ee candidate sangati enti? how is he diff from Ravi shankar?

dost okadu ramdev program ki 600 per couple pay chesi velladu... tarvata next 1 year lo okkasari kuda use cheyyaledu at home annadu
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Jkm:




Yeah - I have my issues with the sell job, patents etc..but they have their priorities and reasons I guess.

But for people who can afford , SKY is nicely packaged, easily consumable casule - 20 mins a day :-) And people do not value stuff unless it is glitzily packaged and they pay thru the nose - lepote Baba Ramdev pranayama dvd is $10 :-)
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Guttonkay:

and a bhajan to sri sri ravishankar before the actual workshop begins.







Guttonkay:

I may be wrong I don't do pooja to living beings




I don't do POOJA PERIOD
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Anand_n:

They do a great marketing job too




yes. part 2 join avvamannau . $500 anta. next year ani cheppa.
actually AOL rich people kosam design chesina program.
nenu naaku thelisindi nerchukonnadi free ga chebuthanu anna.
ala cheppa kudadu. guru droham annaru. patents vunnayi.
teacher training program lo qualify ayithe classes theesukovachu anta.
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I have no idea why they patented this when most of these techniques are known to indians since ages.

I was once inclined to attend one of these workshops since everyone says they benefited. I called and they said $240 or so charge and a bhajan to sri sri ravishankar before the actual workshop begins.

I may be wrong I don't do pooja to living beings, that I don't know if I like to pray or not. So, I cancelled out.
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Mallik:

Jiddu mama.. emaipoinav hinni dinaal?




konchem busy plus 3 months DB lo post veyyakudadu anukonna. post veyyali ane cravings ni control chesukunna. time dorikinappudu ROM lo vunna.
ippudu antha election fever kada. vachesa.
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Mrhyderabad:

Smoke cheyyaka povadam goppa kaadu. Smoke chesthe ela vuntundo telusukoni tarvatha daanini hayisthe then it is great ani ekkado chadivaa.




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DISCLAIMER : I have not attended their programs - just research chesanu :-)
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Mrhyderabad:

Experience peace of mind, joy and happiness

Anything else?


What ELSE can be there other than peace of mind, joy and happiness.. :-)
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Anand_n:

has not of health benefits




Type - LOT of health benefits
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Mallik:

From what I heard, for example if you are suffering from asthma or any kind of allergies.. without taking any medicines, how you can improve the quality of life..




SKY is AOL's patented pranayama capsule ... its a combination of various pranayama's and kriyas(movements)...

Pranayama in general has not of health benefits - mental and physical...and I suggest SKY/pranayama to people who complain about depression

They also offer other courses like meditation etc...and do lots of social work :-)

They do a great marketing job too :-)
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Anand_n:

http://us.artofliving.org/index.html




It says...

Increase your Self-Confidence, Creativity and focus
Enhance your mental, emotional well-being
Experience peace of mind, joy and happiness

Anything else?

If i am already very happy on all above counts then i don't need it, right?

Am i missing anything?
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Jkm:


Jiddu mama.. emaipoinav hinni dinaal?
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Jkm:

Pandit Ravishankar vere vunnaru. eeyana Sri Sri Ravishankar.




my bad...musician ki guruji ki conpuse ayya...
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Getafix:

ante 80% of life bathikesinaka art of living ani fresh ga start cheyyala




Chandamama cinema lo oka line vundi.

"Anubhavinchu ee vybhogham
Vayasu mudiri poyaake viragyam"


Also as per our books, it not that great to become a saint from the begining. But if you become one after experiencing all the aspects of life then you are great. Ex: Smoke cheyyaka povadam goppa kaadu. Smoke chesthe ela vuntundo telusukoni tarvatha daanini hayisthe then it is great ani ekkado chadivaa.
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it is about pandit ravishankar




Pandit Ravishankar vere vunnaru. eeyana Sri Sri Ravishankar.
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From what I heard, for example if you are suffering from asthma or any kind of allergies.. without taking any medicines, how you can improve the quality of life..
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http://us.artofliving.org/index.html
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Mrhyderabad:

Is it only for 40-50+ people?





ante 80% of life bathikesinaka art of living ani fresh ga start cheyyala
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it is about pandit ravishankar
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What is this all about?

Is it only for 40-50+ people?

Is it for mental health?

Lot of my friends invited me many times... but never cared... evaraina full details vunte post cheyyandi.
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