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     Rajusk Side Hero Username: Rajusk Post Number: 2418 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.93.90.250 Rating: N/A |
This is true. LIFE is treated as a bit preciously here as compared to India..you will see that from the way they treat people with kids | ||
| Mrhyderabad Junior Artist Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 69 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 96.239.224.151 Rating: N/A |
But common man is not really affected, right? They may get money from lab tests as commission or so but majority of them have health insurance so they don't feel the pinch. My insurance premium didn't increase much in last 4-5 years even though we have been visiting docs/taking tests many times. And docs/system here gives very high imp to LIFE. They don't play cheap tricks when it comes to life or death situation. May be they are scared b;coz of law suits etc... | ||
| Rajusk Side Hero Username: Rajusk Post Number: 2400 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.93.90.250 Rating: N/A |
gee statement nenu miss ayina.. idi matram pedda joke.. I personally feel that the whole Drug - Doctor - Insurance operates as Mafia here.. India lo edo Corporate Hospitals lo konchem dopidi.. Ikkada US lo adugu aduguna niluvu dopidi.. | ||
| True_indian Junior Artist Username: True_indian Post Number: 918 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 75.181.71.216 Rating: N/A |
guys, ikkada kuda insurance money kosam tests anni chestaru india lo doctor gadi edaina diagnostic centre to link unte akkadiki tests ki pamputaru kada, ikkada ante Docs are Docs no change | ||
| Yahoo Junior Artist Username: Yahoo Post Number: 904 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 130.236.188.166 Rating: N/A |
Jambal recession,bench sitting,refusals, change of location/country,updations in USCIS rules.arent they important factors? .you are playing with a small size sample? | ||
| True_indian Junior Artist Username: True_indian Post Number: 917 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 75.181.71.216 Rating: N/A |
 mama big scams in health industry are from US, india lo we pay from our pocket so we know them but here they survive on insurance | ||
| Mrhyderabad Junior Artist Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 68 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 96.239.224.151 Rating: N/A |
So wt is ur point? | ||
| Mvssr75 Junior Artist Username: Mvssr75 Post Number: 127 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 12.10.219.36 Rating: N/A |
Guys you are confused. Doctors in Corporate Hospitals are one part of the problem. The bigger thing is Management. They care only for Money and Power. The processes are not fine tuned for a good coordination between departments except for money collection. They don't show any empathy, they just treat them as cash and carry customers. They keep the patient's relatives in dark of what they are doing. There should be stricter laws for the governance of the Corporate Hospitals My Peddananna had critical 10 hr operation for Digestive system, in NIMS was successful. But due to poor post operative care, he died after 3 days. My Dad being a senior physician (not related to NIMS) could see condition worsening, was not allowed / listened after day 2 inspite of he and cry, they kept saying he is recovering Finally said, we did our best, but he could not cope due to age 66 yrs. This is how all B grade corporate hospitals work in India. | ||
| Jambalahaart_raja Junior Artist Username: Jambalahaart_raja Post Number: 58 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 146.184.0.114 Rating: N/A |
My deepest condolences and sympathies with the families that have lost a precious life in such tragic incidents. The problem has been prevailing for over a decade now and before it gets even more chaotic, the solution has to be figured out. 1. How many Engg seats are free and how many MBBS seats are free in our state? 2. Total cost incurred in 4 year engg course against total cost incurred under some 7 or 8 year mbbs course, including house-surgeoncy. 3. Every damn engg or even a non-engg grad can be a software professional, wot about MBBS grads? 4. Compare Initial pay scales? On-site opportunities etc etc. 5. Most importantly, how efficient are we in our jobs at our work-place and how efficient do we expect the doctors to be with their jobs? All those MBBS grads were the same friends we must have hung-around some time in our life. I have a friend, still pursuing his house-surgeoncy and bearing his expenses on the little stipend he manages to make bi-weekly and here I am, in the US, earning $$$, saving up over a lakh every month, planning to purchase a house, a car, start a small family in a couple of years to come. Why the disparity? What will be the result of this difference? What impact could this bring upon doctors like him? What are they being tuned to think? Someday, my friend could be accused by an innocent victim and his family, who might have lost a precious loved one ..... and who is to be blamed for that? Perhaps, he became a murderer when he chose to be a doctor....or rather, I chose to be an engg. | ||
| Guriginja Side Hero Username: Guriginja Post Number: 2869 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 97.81.110.190 Rating: N/A |
time bedar..yem chestham..kaani doctors ni maatram kummali...sorry no offence. Nellore lo kuda chala jarigayi..doctors extralu seyyatam..janam kummatam...children specialist okayana vunnadu...kummithe goda duki paripoyadu....kalu virigindi....bollineni lanti corporate hosp. doctors ni kuda 3-4 times kummaru....doctors take it for granted ga vunnantha varaku tappademo... | ||
| New_user Side Hero Username: New_user Post Number: 2440 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.111.75.220 Rating: N/A |
Guriginja Sad experience. India lo 90% doctors chala careless (including me when I was a trainee). Patient ni, family ni complete ga dark lo unchutharu. Kakinada lo oka famous ENT surgeon office lo ayithe, 3 waiting rooms undevi - 1st room lo 100, 2nd room lo 70, 3rd room lo 40 fees ichchina vallani kurchopettevallu. Pure business. Ikkada US lo kooda rare ga jaruguthayi. http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/feb/28/officials-clinic -procedures-put-thousands-risk/ | ||
| Guriginja Side Hero Username: Guriginja Post Number: 2865 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 97.81.110.190 Rating: N/A |
thank you all for your thoughts bedars..ala jarigipoyindi...yetla vunnanra ani naakkuda artham kaadu...anyway..coming to the point. as..govt institutions are bad corporate too good anedi myth. govt institutions like nims, swims, bird, etc are too good. it all depends on the doctor.esp yevaranna akkada work chese bvaallunte...best.okappupu tirupati svims was excellent for neuro, gastro and uro. Bird is one of the best in country for ortho/prosthetics, etc....ippudu yetta vunnayoo.. | ||
| Rajusk Side Hero Username: Rajusk Post Number: 2350 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.93.90.250 Rating: N/A |
NIMS although is run by Government they have good facilities..and effecient doctors...once upon a time Dr.Somaraju..Dr.Raj Kumar Raju..were in NIMS panel of Doctors..later they went their own way We always went there..of course if you are able to pull some strings you will probably get the best medical care..my brother's friend has been the Financial Controller of NIMS for almost a decade..so we always went there.. | ||
| Mrhyderabad Junior Artist Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 67 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 96.239.224.151 Rating: N/A |
Honestly, i am also one of those who believe in above concept. Now, i need to think again in future. | ||
| Mrhyderabad Junior Artist Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 66 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 96.239.224.151 Rating: N/A |
very sorry to hear this mama. educated ayi vundi maname ilaa book ayithe, inka others sangati enti? | ||
| Tdp_jeevi Junior Artist Username: Tdp_jeevi Post Number: 692 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 165.200.90.211 Rating: N/A |
Guruginja Sorry to hear your mothers story. It was very unfortunate. Thala raatha antay idhaynaymo. Nuvvu medical field lo undi correct decisions theesukolaykapovatamu. Thalaraatha nu yevvadu maarchalaydu antay idhenaymo. I think for major surgeries like heart, liver , brain, cancer treatment if you have money bring your parents or close relatives to USA and have the treatment at the best hospitals in USA. Becasue while doing major surgeries we got only one chance that should be our best chance once we miss that then it is very difficult to survive | ||
| Ultimatum Junior Artist Username: Ultimatum Post Number: 117 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 205.181.102.119 Rating: N/A |
>>>....do not panic...I would suggest CMC vellore....the best out there..atleast that is what I felt.....allada kuda corporate lage dabbu kummestharu.....doctor consulting then was 400 rs but still i would rather go there...just my 2C. Sorry brother...there are stray incidents with CMC too..one of my relatives was wrongly diognised for lymphnode cancer..anyway taking second opinion is not that easy(as in US) with all the travel and multiple layers in hospitals..from my experience thought Vijaya hospital (vadapalani) is better than apollo or cmc..don't have to face the language problem (almost all docs r telugu) and layers r less. | ||
| Getafix Junior Artist Username: Getafix Post Number: 143 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 208.242.14.185 Rating: N/A |
Brother.. bear hug! I cannot even imagine how hard it was/is for you. God bless! | ||
| Maha Junior Artist Username: Maha Post Number: 56 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 72.144.42.138 Rating: N/A |
guriginja so sorry ...yaa super specialty hospitals lo chalavaraku first operation antaru.. delivery cases kuda wait cheyaru operation antaaru... edaina manaki bhaga telsina doctor dhagaraku velladam better | ||
| Rajusk Side Hero Username: Rajusk Post Number: 2348 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.93.90.250 Rating: N/A |
Correction In Apollo they said they can not amputate right away, because they want to observe the patient initially. Couple of days later..they had another story to tell..they said..they are monitoring his heart beat etc..And 2 more days later..they said they are ready for operation..by that time..Gangrene has taken over the body completely...and he could not survive the operation and passed away. | ||
| Rajusk Side Hero Username: Rajusk Post Number: 2347 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.93.90.250 Rating: N/A |
I have lost a very dear friend (of almost 20 years) courtesy Appollo Hospital Hyderabad..He was like a family member..and I still miss him This was way back in 2001. He was riding his scooter near ••• park in Hyderabad and he slip and fell and a Lorry went over his right leg (lower part). Since it is MLC(medico legal case)..they immediately took to NIMS and the doctors at NIMS suggested that the leg be amputated and he will do OK. Now stepped in my friend's brother, an IIT graduate and one who returned from US after living 6 years in this country. He somehow believed that Govt hospitals were no good and he wanted to go for the "Best Medical Care", so he made a decision to move the person to Apollo Hyderabad. In Apollo they said they can amputate right away, because they want to observe the patient initially. Couple of days later..they had another story to tell..they said..they are monitoring his heart beat etc..And 2 more days later..they said they are ready for operation..by that time..Gangrene has taken over the body completely...and he could not survive the operation and passed away. Apollo was richer by 2 lakhs and we all lost a very dear friend..Although I was here..I used to get daily updates from friends..and after he passed away..It took me few days to come over the shock..because he used to literally live in our house and was a family member who shared our joys and sorrows and was always there to offer help.. | ||
| Guriginja Side Hero Username: Guriginja Post Number: 2864 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 97.81.110.190 Rating: N/A |
bedar...thread asalu enter kakudadanukunna....not o linger in past..but...seppadam imp. ani septhunna. I was in chennai apollo hospitals (neuro center) during 2003 for about 6 months. I was there for the whole six months except for about 2- 24 days in the middle when I came came back hoping things to improve but had to rush back in just 20 days of coming here. The people there are just thugs...this applies to the management and the doctors. Patients and relatives ni just pilchi pippi chestharu. We went there for a gen'l check up and went for a surgery after which my mother never recovered. Medical field lo vundi..ala yela chesana...assalu surgery 2nd opinion theesukokunda yenduku panic ayyi proceed ayyana ani ippatiki guilty ga feel avvani roju ledu. hat was definately doctors mistake during surgery, ma amma apollo ICU lo 5 months vunnaru..on ventilators.....there was no imporvement...I emailed Jipmer, AIIMS, CMC vellore and explained the casea and pleaded someone to take itup as a challange..only CMC vellore responded. I took her there from apollo...but appatike jaragalsina damage jarigipoyindi..she never recovered. Those days are the darkest days of my life....canteen lo thinadam..waiting hall lo wait cheyyadam....morning evening visitors hrs lo ICU loki velli maa ammani chusi ravadam...was dina charya... waiting room lo okkokkaridi okkokka story...people from all over the country esp from north east...yendukule aakathalu...gunde tarukku pothundi...thelisina vaallu vundi...chadukunnavallu..koncham dabayisthe doctors samadanam setharu...lekhapothe matladanu kuda maatladaru..apollo or any super specialities lo doctors in same dpt. ki ego...okadi case inkoditho discuss cheyyaru...medicine lo adi important for correct diagnosis/treatment..that is totally lacking there. CMC ki vellina taruvatha...that is what I noticed...college hospital kanuka case is discussed thorougly....first directga ikkadake yenduku raleda ani badhapaddanu.....akkada kuda locals daggara tappa migilina vaalla daggara dabbu pindestharu...but correct diagnosis and treatment..that is what I noticed. Dr. Ari Chaku...neuro surgeon was the one who responded for my email....though he couldn't save my mother...I really appriciate his response...that attitude is important..that is what saves lives... madras lo iddaru doctors...surgert chesinodu...vadiki refer chesina L*munda...pelli pellam pillalu lekunte definate inka surgeries seyyakunda vadi sethulu dani kaaallu vinchese vadini....refer chesina doc ki dept lo best doc ki padadanta...veediki refer chesindi....commisions gatra vuntayemo theleedu.....but vaalla personal egos valla patients tho adukuntunaru....yemi cheyyaleni parsthithi...court ki velthe kuda...manam ikkada vundi akkada yela figt cheyyali...narakam le assalu... the management treats the nurses also badly.....they are made to work 12-15hrs daily.....personal nurse theesukunte 600 rs per day...butshe gets only 150 of that the rest goes to hospital....I would stop here.....please take 2nd, 3rd opinion before making big decissions, esp regaring big surgeries....do not panic...I would suggest CMC vellore....the best out there..atleast that is what I felt.....allada kuda corporate lage dabbu kummestharu.....doctor consulting then was 400 rs but still i would rather go there...just my 2C. | ||
| Getafix Junior Artist Username: Getafix Post Number: 141 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 208.242.14.179 Rating: N/A |
Mana india lo doctors konnisarlu guestimation kuda chestharu and that hurts the patient.India lo docs wrong diagnosis chestharu sometime and they get by relatively easily but here just a miscue on part of the doctor , he/she will be sued and sometimes leads to cancellation of her/his licence. Ikkadi docs risk prone untaru comparitive ga chusthe. | ||
| Maha Junior Artist Username: Maha Post Number: 54 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 72.144.42.138 Rating: N/A |
alane manam visit kellinapudu already 1year complete ithe general physical test chesi vallu blood test chestharu emanna probs vunnaya ani like sugar or kidney ,lever probs | ||
| Maha Junior Artist Username: Maha Post Number: 53 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 72.144.42.138 Rating: N/A |
Jalsa migraine problem vunnapudu tablets(medication)vaadali ante konni tabs cordio problem emanna vunte use cheykudadhu so doctors make sure chesukuntaru manam cheppe symptoms batti test chestharu same with abdominal pain vunte blood test chestharu coz potasium anukunta level chustharu alane elergy ki cough vunte x-ray tistharu ...... but ekada doctors edaina test meedha ekuva depend avutharu but comparatively ekada kanna indian doctors lot better in knowledge, main problem diagonalize chese vishayamlo JMO.... | ||
| Teluguhero Junior Artist Username: Teluguhero Post Number: 180 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 71.203.141.164 Rating: N/A |
I dont think here docs cheat people.Normally doc suggest tets for people who have proper insurance.Also everyone should take proper insurance that covers everything before going to visit the doctor | ||
| Ramk Junior Artist Username: Ramk Post Number: 31 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 72.167.203.129 Rating: N/A |
Once i had been to one big hospital in usa for high fever with headache. The did almost 20 tests from brain to liver. They started treatment only after reports. IT is always good to gothrough tests. Tests are fine but results should be analysed by best doctors not trainees. | ||
| Cylonesubbarao Side Hero Username: Cylonesubbarao Post Number: 7639 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.61.20.242 Rating: N/A |
They have a proper reason to send you to cardiologist.... reports soosavu kadha... voorike pampinchaara? Always diagnosis is better than direct treatment. Blood test valla manaki poye nashtam emi ledhu kadha. You must be the change you wish to see in the world  | ||
| Teluguhero Junior Artist Username: Teluguhero Post Number: 178 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 71.203.141.164 Rating: N/A |
As long as insurance covers all those tests its good for you ,Basciaclly doctors suggests those tetss as a precautionary measure. After Corssing 30 all people must go for doctor check up paricularly our indians who dont do exercise and failed to take healthy food. Even rich people in India negelected haelth and we see sudden demise of them due to heart attack,cancer etc | ||
| True_indian Junior Artist Username: True_indian Post Number: 901 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 75.181.71.216 Rating: N/A |
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| Jalsa Junior Artist Username: Jalsa Post Number: 598 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 12.71.129.42 Rating: N/A |
babai, naa migraine headaches ki medicine kosam velthey, i had to take 3 blood tests and two visits to cardiologist. my wife had a similar exp. enni blood tests chesaaro asalu. at onetime, in one week she had to take 3 blood tests. malli reports choosi emi ledhu problem ani cheppparu. | ||
| True_indian Junior Artist Username: True_indian Post Number: 897 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 75.181.71.216 Rating: N/A |
mama na cousin 8 members ikkada doc's medical facilities here are exceptional but docs have very less pratical knowledge, docs who are good are awesome but most of them lack basic diagnosis basic doc is doc everywhere, here they cheat systematically, in india they do it openly lot of my friends had problems here with diagnosis and paid lot of money in india its common due to lack of doctors and hospitals | ||
| Shawshank Junior Artist Username: Shawshank Post Number: 47 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 76.221.201.92 Rating: N/A |
So sad .. but dont blame all the doctors, there are few very good doctors! We need to develop ethics in the society! otherwise these are the things we are going to see a lot more. | ||
| Mrhyderabad Junior Artist Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 65 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 76.124.219.90 Rating: N/A |
maa friend okadiki edo tumor surgery chesinappudu sarigaa kakapote.. 2 weeks lo same problem repeat ayithe 2nd surgery free of cost chesaaru (which costs 60K+).. he is doing fine now | ||
| Mrhyderabad Junior Artist Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 64 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 76.124.219.90 Rating: N/A |
ikkada usa lo doctor negligence valla life poye chances chaala takkuva kadaa mama (relatively)... india lo ilaantivi everyday happenings... not all stories come out like this. b'coz this he is working in IT, he is passing the message to all... | ||
| Jalsa Junior Artist Username: Jalsa Post Number: 589 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 12.71.129.42 Rating: N/A |
unbelievable.  . very sad to hear this. my wife's grandfather had a similar experience. they gave wrong medicine and didn't even accept that fact. It costed him his life. bloody buggers  | ||
| Mvssr75 Junior Artist Username: Mvssr75 Post Number: 122 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 12.10.219.36 Rating: N/A |
Very Sad. Very few Corporate Hospitals in India have professional approach. Rest all are doing business in the name of Health care. Any operation related to digestive system involves lot of risk and cannot be performed in hurry Most patients in India Die/suffer in these kind of hospitals due to POOR Post-Operative care It is always good to go with references of our family physician, and not just go to any Hospital directly , like buying something from any shop There are many hospitals in India, like this. Govt has not setup strict rules / procedures and let them free. Because they take care of politicians well. | ||
| True_indian Junior Artist Username: True_indian Post Number: 882 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 75.181.71.216 Rating: N/A |
endi idi, mari inta bad a we had worst experiences in US but not in india so far | ||
| Nanigadu Junior Artist Username: Nanigadu Post Number: 800 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 204.92.92.4 Rating: N/A |
It is so sad to hear what happenned to her, you can't blame her family for this, its all that surgeon's fault who gave them false promises, these people are suckers, i remember recently fellow DB'er too posted similar situation of his friend's mom who has to undergo an operation here becoz of the mistakes done by indian doctors... these bastards should be hanged, once they know that you have money they will stoop to any levels to grab that from you. I had a similar experience not that serious though, after my marraige, when i was returning to Canada, i had little bit of bleeding when i brushed my teeth, i went to a local doctor in Vijayawada, my dad knows that lady Doctor, who asked me to have an X-ray and then in the evening when i went to meet her, mind you i was coming back on 6th of Feb and i met her on 2nd of Feb, so on 2nd evening i went to show my x-ray and she said you have a problem in your gums, you need to get it fixed or else with in short span of time you will loose your teeth and it will be hard on you, i have a colleague who is here now on a medical trip from hydbad, he is expert in it, he will perform the ( I dont remember what exactly it is) surgery tomorrow and you will be fine day-after, my question was that what if something goes wrong and if i face problems in canada, and its too expensive here, she keep on pestering me for getting surgery done, i said, i will come back later and next day i called my friend's bro who is a dentist in hyderabad, and he suggested me not to get that done and at the end i just had my teeth and gums cleaned, thats it i am fine now, i never had any issue till now... just get some extra bucks they create so much fear in you... I hate to say this but some doctors are like vultures... | ||
| Tdp_jeevi Junior Artist Username: Tdp_jeevi Post Number: 690 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 165.200.86.138 Rating: N/A |
I felt very very bad after reading this. She unnecessarily lost her life. She did not make any decisions on her own. First of alll husband made a mistake by having the surgery in India when he is living in UK and having access to best docters and best hospitals. And also the surgery is not needed at that time, he did not have any pain, bleeding or any other symptoms except little bulge in the abdomen. My deepest condolences to Padma who lost her life unnecessarily due to incompetent indian doctors, sad thing is she never got a chance to spend time with her family in india, she had surgery the very next day after landing the flight from UK(which is big mistake) I am feeling terrible after reading this. | ||
| Mrhyderabad Junior Artist Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 63 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 167.230.38.118 Rating: N/A |
Here it is... very long one... but worth reading... I am still struggling to cope up with what had happened. Also still trying to find ways and means of pinning down the hospital. As as part of this, want to create a wider awareness on this issue. Can you circulate this among your circles to increase awareness about this hospital and also in general. Any ideas of pulling this hospital, please do let me know. I fear I may not succeed by going legal with the Indian legal system and don�t know whether I can spend that much of energy (keeping priorities of children in mind); please do give me ideas. I have come across few more affected people, included those links also here. This is not a philosophical statement on one�s life after death, this is about how my wife, Padma died in a hospital in Chennai. Whatever I have seen only in movies so far, is experienced by me. We were living in the UK for few years; our family includes me, my wife (Padma), and our 7 yr old son and 8months old daughter. My wife had a symptom of ventral hernia (slightly bulged abdomen), we had consulted General Physician and Surgeon in the UK and advice was that she needed a surgery to have a mesh to fix the problem with a few weeks rest. We were also told that this is not an emergency and it can be done anytime though earlier is good. In fact the surgeon whom we consulted in UK talked about an example of a lady having this done for 30 years of the symptom. My wife did not have any specific pain or something except a small discomfort of bulgy abdomen (like a 2 months pregnant lady) and she was in her normal routine of taking care of our children, taking our son to school, household work, etc. We were planning for Christmas vacation in India in Dec 2007, we thought we will consult some �good� doctors over in India and take a decision of when we will do the surgery if required and possibly felt doing in India is good because of family support. We have got a reference of Dr J S Rajkumar of Lifeline hospital and we booked an appointment to meet him. We landed in Chennai on 14th Dec 2007 for a three weeks vacation, met Dr Rajkumar at his city hospital (Rigid hospital) in Chetput on 15th Dec 2007 (Sat) at about 730pm. We have explained him the background, shown him all the comments of UK surgeon, medical reports related to my wife pregnancy, deliveries, etc (she had delivered both our children normally). After few minutes of assessment Dr Rajkumar told us this hernia requires laparoscopic surgery and we can do this next day itself. We were little concerned initially of getting this surgery done the very next day (particularly we were still not out of jet lag and she was feeding our baby) and got convinced with the �salesy� words given by the Doctors. To quote a comment from the Doctor �she will run in two days time and can lift two suitcases and you can return to UK as per your plan on 3rd Jan 2008″';-)'BORDER=0. Also Dr Rajkumar told us that he will be on travel for 3 days from 17th Dec and moreover he was teaching Post Graduates on 16th Dec about laparoscopic surgery and let us get it done on 16th Dec. Then my wife was put into all sorts of equipments in the hospital (in the name of assessment); blood, urine, ECG, MRI and so on and the tests were conducted till about 11pm on 15th Dec. In fact they have opened the labs after closing hours and got the test done and handed over the test results to us. They had some problem in the ECG and we were told that ECG can be done on the next day at Lifeline hospital. We were asked to report to Rigid hospital at 5am in the morning. Think of it, we went our residence around midnight and my wife had rush on some food to keep compliance on the fasting 8 hrs prior to surgery. After preparing for the hospital visit that night and a couple of hours sleep (3 hrs or so) we reached Rigid hospital on 16th morning at 5am or so and from there we were transported by an �ambulance� to Lifelife hospital in Perungudi (outskirts of Chennai). We reached the hospital at 630am, paid some initial advance for the surgery and we were given a room. Padma went through some more basic checks like height, weight, etc. Padma was taken to the operation theatre at about 10am in the morning on 16th Dec. After the laparoscopic procedure she was moved to post operative ward at about 12 noon and I have met her in the afternoon to say a small hello when she gained consciousness. Dr Rajkumar met us on 16th Dec afternoon and he in fact congratulated me for successful surgery and said he has used proceed mesh (costly one) and advised his staff to move Padma to normal ward in the evening as she had to feed her baby. But, Padma was moved to normal ward only on 17th Dec morning, she was on IV fluids as per normal post operative procedure. Padma started to develop some fluids in her abdomen which duty doctors /surgeons have �rightly� observed. She was put in some series of tests on 17th � 20th tests include multiple ultra sound, multiple CT scans, pricked her abdomen and taken fluids, she had a long tube through her nose overnight to collect fluid for tests, etc. We were told the fluid is normal after surgery and it will be alright after she passes stool, etc. In the meanwhile Dr Rajkumar returned from his travel and seen Padma on 19th on 20th Dec evening along with other surgeons. He made an assessment and he told me that he might want to do one more laparoscopic surgery to find out what is the fluid about. He wanted to do a surgery on 20th Dec evening itself, but he could not proceed as the hospital has given solid food that afternoon � hence anaesthesia could not be given. (lack of co-ordination among departments, time lost here, may be she could have survived if they have did the surgery on 20th itself) On 20th Dec night, fluid started oozing from Padma�s abdomen stitches, after the duty Doctor�s assessment she was shifted to ICU. We really did not know what complication she developed in the ICU. On 21st Dec (Friday) morning around 830am I was called in to the ICU to convey that they are going to perform a surgery and I had to sign �high risk consent�, they were telling this in front of my wife (just think of a patient hearing this before the surgery). I was just shocked at that and had no options to sign whatever they wanted. I said �all the best� (my last conversation with my wife) to my wife and she was taken to Operation Theatre. While I was discussing with the Doctors at ICU, the cashier in the hospital kept on calling me on my mobile. When I met the cashier he asked for Rs.60,000 to be paid immediately and I told him take Rs.40,000 and will give you the balance later in the day. Bang a reply came, �you have to pay the money to for me to give clearance for surgery�. When I expressed my unhappiness about the comment, he insisted for me to sign a piece of paper saying that I will give the money later in the day. (What money minded, in-human attitude!) We had no news from the hospital on their own about the surgery, I had enquired the staff nurse and visited my wife in the ICU and learnt that she had a diagnostic laparotomy (open surgery) and there was hole in the intestine which was fixed. We have meet Dr Rajkumar at about 3:30pm on 21st Dec and understood that there was a duodenum rupture and he has fixed it, at the same time he removed the mesh which was fixed on 16th Dec. She was also paralysed and put on ventilator as she was waking up. He explained it was between life threatening and beauty so they addressed the duodenum rupture problem. What we were puzzled were, how did the rupture happen? for that explanation given were - it could be due to ulcer. My wife had no evidence of ulcer in the past. Explanation given was 40%+ cases of ulcer is silent and there will be no symptom (I lack medical knowledge to appreciate this) - it could be due to post operative stress (so many test post operation without any explanation of what we were doing could have created the stress on Padma is my argument) On the same night (21st Dec) at about 930pm, I was called in to the ICU and Doctors conveyed that my wife condition is critical � her pulse is high, BP is low and they were attending to her. I insisted on talking to Dr Rajkumar immdly, but they refused to connect me to him at first and finally managed to speak to him. Dr Rajkumar came in around midnight and explained that the lungs are getting affected (shown X-ray of white patches on the lower portion of lungs) and she was the most serious patient in the whole hospital that time and they were trying their best. He also said, it will need another 12-24 hours of observation before they can say anything. We were completely panicked and just waiting outside the ICU and praying forPadma�s recovery. We had to argue with the security outside the ICU to gain access to the Doctors to know her situation (no courtesy from the security personnel, who just don�t understand the situation) At about 4:30am in the morning, my friend gained access the Doctors in the ICU and came out with the low face to tell me that Padma�s condition is worsened. Again I tried to reach Dr Rajkumar and the hospital says they don�t have his contact number (just can�t understand how they can behave like this). Finally after some hue and cry Dr Rajkumar came on line to tell me that he is not God and don�t think his visit can do any thing different. I cried, begged him to come over to give some ideas to his team to recover Padma. He came over at around 6am and said they are trying everything possible, etc; but her end came quickly. The end came to our beloved Padma at 6:30am on 22nd Dec, throwing the entire family to rude shock and a life time sorrow. Our �LIVES AFTER DEATH� of Padma has changed for ever. I can now think of so many questions retrospectively; 1. Why did the surgeon perform the surgery the very next day of consultancy, that too for a non- emergency one like this? (Padma had just travelled many miles, she was not even out of jet lag.) Was it for money? Was it for them to get one more sample for their post grads training? 2. Did the Doctors made proper assessment on Padma�s fitness for surgery, frankly did they even had time to go through the reports, after the tests till 11pm on the previous night for next day 8am surgery (particularly when the reports were with us till 730am on the day of surgery). 3. Patient communication and counselling. Isn�t it important to communicate to patient and their relatives on the development of patient condition (fluid collection started from the next day of laparoscopic) 4. Did the absence of Dr Rajkumar for three days post the first surgery is one of the reason for this disaster? Were the other Doctors not able to diagnose or take a decision? Were they waiting for Dr Rajkumar return? 5. What is the real reason for duodenum perforation? My wife never had any history of ulcer to the best of my knowledge. Why did the hospital take so much of time to react (5 days after surgery) when such a crucial thing like perforation has happened. 6. Was there any issue in the initial laparoscopic procedure which has caused the perforation? 7. Careless attitude by hospital staff? � my wife sex was recorded as �Male� initially and corrected after I told them. The staff was not even apologetic for this, he rather asked me �why didn�t you inform�. Can�t he make out with the name Padma. Think of it, if he has changed the blood group from A+ to B+; that is it!! 8. Will anyone with basic common sense ask for high risk signature in front of the patient? I was asked to sign just minutes before surgery in front of my wife. 9. Is the hospital money minded?: They were demanding money on gun point almost. a. Prior to the first surgery the cashier said please give Rs.30000/- more for him to give clearance for surgery b. When my wife going for second surgery I was told by the cashier again, please give Rs.60000/- for clearance for surgery c. The hospital charged more than what was told for initial laparoscopic, without even communicating to me increase in charges d. The final �bill� was just on letter head, without mention of currency, invoice number, etc. I had to insist on a proper invoice later. e. I was given to understand that they even made arguments on ambulance charges to send my wife dead body back home.!! (making money on the dead body also) 10. Why the hospital did not made me to talk to my wife when she gained consciousness after the second surgery? If not anything else, I could have held her hand. Even a criminal gets an opportunity to communicate his/her last wishes. Am I or my wife worse than? 11. FALSE reports - After all these hospital sends me false reports (on Jan 11, 2008 � three weeks after my wife�s death) : a. They had mentioned she had LSCS (caesarean section) and large scar due to LSCS. When my wife delivered both the babies normally, how does one record as caesarean and how there will be scar when there was no caesarean? b. The hernia was mentioned �incisional hernia� � when there was no incision on her body how the hernia is categorised as incisional? It was actually ventral hernia. Don�t think one can replace any term with any term just like that! c. Most importantly, the surgery was performed on 16th Dec 2007, the report said 17th dec 2007 12. MISSING REPORTS - From the hospital records Doctors notes were missing for 16th and 17th Dec. The first report is available for 17th Dec at 8:36pm. How come there are no Doctors� notes for about 36 hours after the surgery? Isn�t it fishy? Did something went wrong on the first laparoscopic procedure? Our entire family is still mourning and trying to reconcile the fact that our Padma is no more. My 7 year old son is aware that is Mom is not there, does he understand? My 1 year old daughter is too young to know what has happened. What will her questions be in future? My sincere advice to all is a) Do not get carried away by advertisement / TV shows / big buildings b) Please do not rush c) Do your own due diligence, particularly when things are not an emergency d) Try and understand the medical terms, do research prior e) Please ask questions, at every stage. f) Don�t say �I can spend anything� g) Know patient rights I am still not convinced that Padma has died after a �simple� laparoscopic surgery? I am deeply upset of what has happened to Padma and for what is happening to us. What I could have done (or not done) which would have prevented this. What is that we can do to prevent this in future for others!!! Please join me in making awareness to others. While India is trying to woo many international Customers in the name of �medical tourism�; first let the authorities make regulation on the health care system and take care of Indian people first. | ||
| Nanigadu Junior Artist Username: Nanigadu Post Number: 799 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 204.92.92.4 Rating: N/A |
Where are you reading the full article, i can see only this: Claimed to be a true Incident: I am still struggling to cope up with what had happened. Also still trying to find ways and means of pinning down the hospital. As as part of this, want to create a wider awareness on this issue. Can you circulate this among your circles to increase awareness about this hospital and also in general. Any ideas of pulling this hospital, please do let me know. I fear I may not succeed by going legal with the Indian legal system and don’t know whether I can spend that much of energy (keeping priorities of children in mind); please do give me ideas. | ||
| Cylonesubbarao Side Hero Username: Cylonesubbarao Post Number: 7620 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.61.20.242 Rating: N/A |
Very Sad You must be the change you wish to see in the world | ||
| Mrhyderabad Junior Artist Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 62 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 167.230.38.118 Rating: N/A |
This is a real tragic event and Durai is a Wiproite. Please pass on to your friends to create awareness.This is not an isolated case in Chennai, the so called super speciality hospitals are very much money minded and most of the time people from IT industry are getting into their trap. http://www.officialbrain.com/truth/lifeline-hospital-chennai -incident-doctors-neglect Read the article when you have time... very sad. |
