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Savarkar appealed for clemency and was pardoned by the British and then started working for the British empire. After that he withdrew completely from the freedom struggle and dedicated himself to a Hindu state and not Indian state.



ohh... did he fail to meet ur expectation.... chuss he disappointed you
Naakonchem thikkundi.... daaaniko lekkundi
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Again asking .. what work did he do for British?? any specific pointers or just character assassination of a patriot and brahmi icons ..
"India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savarkar

Savarkar appealed for clemency and was pardoned by the British and then started working for the British empire. After that he withdrew completely from the freedom struggle and dedicated himself to a Hindu state and not Indian state.
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VinÄyak DÄmodar SÄvarkar (Marathi: विनायठदामà¥à¤¦à¤° सावरà¤à¤° pronunciation (help·info)) (28 May 1883 â 26 February 1966) was an Indian revolutionary[4] and politician. He was the proponent of liberty as the ultimate ideal.[5] Savarkar was a poet, writer and playwright. He launched a movement for religious reform advocating dismantling the system of caste in Hindu culture, and reconversion of the converted Hindus back to Hindu religion. Savarkar created the term Hindutva, and emphasized its distinctiveness from Hinduism which he associated with social and political disunity. Savarkarâs Hindutva sought to create an inclusive collective identity. The five elements of Savarkar's philosophy were Utilitarianism, Rationalism and Positivism, Humanism and Universalism, Pragmatism and Realism.[6]
Savarkar's revolutionary activities began when studying in India and England, where he was associated with the India House and founded student societies including Abhinav Bharat Society and the Free India Society, as well as publications espousing the cause of complete Indian independence by revolutionary means.[7] Savarkar published The Indian War of Independence about the Indian rebellion of 1857 that was banned by British authorities. He was arrested in 1910 for his connections with the revolutionary group India House. Following a failed attempt to escape while being transported from Marseilles, Savarkar was sentenced to two life terms amounting to 50 years' imprisonment and moved to the Cellular Jail in the Andaman and Nicobar Islands.
While in jail, Savarkar wrote the work describing Hindutva, openly espousing Hindu nationalism. He was released in 1921 under restrictions after signing a plea for clemency in which he renounced revolutionary activities. Travelling widely, Savarkar became a forceful orator and writer, advocating Hindu political and social unity. Serving as the president of the Hindu Mahasabha, Savarkar endorsed the ideal of India as a Hindu Rashtra and opposed the Quit India struggle in 1942, calling it a "Quit India but keep your army" movement. He became a fierce critic of the Indian National Congress and its acceptance of India's partition, and was one of those accused in the assassination of Indian leader Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi.[8][9] He was acquitted as the charges could not be proven.[10]
The airport at Port Blair, Andaman and Nicobar's capital, has been named Veer Savarkar International Airport.[11] The commemorative blue plaque on India House fixed by the Historic Building and Monuments Commission for England reads "Vinayak Damodar Savarkar 1883-1966 Indian patriot and philosopher lived here".[12]
"India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savarkar

Chadavi matladandi babu .. sollu enduku ..
"India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda
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Savarkar is a hero for those who believe in vegetarian related societal supremacy....PERIOD
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Tdp2093:

British government scholarship tho uk lo chadivadu


Inka vandala mandi chadivaaru British govt scholarship tho ..

Tdp2093:

And we all know who had access to go to UK ore 1900


LOL .. we all know sollu nijame na? How was he the most tortured person among freedom fighters??

Gandhi kante ekkuva Britishers tho access evariki undi?

Siggu padali .. alanti Savarkar ni traitor annanduku ..
"India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda
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British government scholarship tho uk lo chadivadu
And we all know who had access to go to UK ore 1900
Keep the dream alive...tdp2093
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Tdp2093:

Savarkar for me is a traitor who worked for the British


In what position did he work. Koddiga naa kallu teripinchu ..
"India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda
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Savarkar's own words in one of his writings....

"So long as that divine age has not arrived â bloodshed, and revenge cannot be purely sinful.They are (bloodshed and revenge) instruments created by nature to root out injustice and introduce an era of justice"

Savarkar also wrote that Hindu conquerors should have raped Muslim rulersâ women.
He admonishes Shivaji for not doing so.

Those who are driven by a strong love for Hindu religion and an obvious dislike and hatred for other religions will like Savarkar a lot.
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Savarkar was more a lover of "Hindiusm and Hindu supremacy" than India the country
Just like Hitler was a great lover of "Aryan supremacy" rather than Germany the nation.

When charged with sedition and abetment to murder, Savarkar surrendered and was sentenced to life imprisonment in 1911.

BUT By the end of that very year, he had already appealed and petitioned for clemency, promising to âserve the British government in any capacity they like"
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Savarkar for me is a traitor who worked for the British and later became disgruntled and revolted.

Desabhakthudu evadu British valla kinda panicheyadu.
Keep the dream alive...tdp2093
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Felt great reading the thread ...
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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Hero:


ikkada DB lo intellect posulu ekkuva..janalani adi chadivira idi chadivira
ani kindalling..


genuine ga ne cheptunna .. not kindalling .. there is nothing wrong in asking to go and read Savarkar before using his name .. danike intellect pose ani pisukkodam deniki? chadivithe vache nastam ledu ga ..
"India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda
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Ee thread subject ki relavant post esindi nenu okkadine anukunta...
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Baba garu correct chepparu.

ikkada DB lo intellect posulu ekkuva..janalani adi chadivira idi chadivira
ani kindalling..

inko kurrod always personal targetting..

alla party lo emo sirish bhardwaj,rajsekar,jeevita,gali janardhan untar.

DB lo ne kadu..india lo vintelligents takkuva...meeru pottugallu ani hadavidi cheste..vache 2% votes kuda ravu

"Vesindi rich getup america level build up...teera chooste..ikkada vanta setup'

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Zulu:

Flashback lo(ysr brathiki unnappudu) guri kurrod elagey oogadu..

edho tirupathi vishayam lo logical ga discuss cheyyakunda..

"Venky is powerful god..ayana sangathi ayana choosukoleDa? mee kuhana hinduvala help ayana em avasaram ledhu" ani

unnadu..choosukunnadu..okadu mukkalu mukkalai sachadu..inkodu sippa koodu thintunnadu




devudu zulayya pradhanalu aalakinchi chesadu....sampesi jail lo vesi vaalla peru inka penchadu....vaalla meedha kukkedupu yedche vaallani roju rojuki krusimpa chesadu anthe na....zulayya nee gtulanadam devudikenduku anta kadathav le.,.....yes if he is there he knows how to take care of things....ippatiki cheppedhi adhe...but nee kujili teeruthundhi....venjoy sesuko.
JOHAR YSR.....YSR AMAR RAHE
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Flashback lo(ysr brathiki unnappudu) guri kurrod elagey oogadu..

edho tirupathi vishayam lo logical ga discuss cheyyakunda..

"Venky is powerful god..ayana sangathi ayana choosukoleDa? mee kuhana hinduvala help ayana em avasaram ledhu" ani

unnadu..choosukunnadu..okadu mukkalu mukkalai sachadu..inkodu sippa koodu thintunnadu
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Thread ragam enti Brother Anil pravachanalu enti?
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Monna evvaro Subramaniam Swamy ni criticize cheste Vizag local college lo Engineering chadivina neeku..Samuelson student ayina Swamy ni thittantha ledhu ani voogavu. Ivvala malli ikkada Intellectuals anukuntaaru ani pedda kadalu cheptunnavu. Why this Kolaveri? Ee DB lo intellectual ani cutting icche vallalo nuvvu top lo vuntaavu.
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because they are i back door agreement with congress
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don draper bedaru...good to be on your side of the rgument. meelaga lekunte der laga nenu peddha pedda pusthakal sadavaledhu..but naku telisinantha varaku....nammakam okate...devudu vunnadu lekunte ledu.....vunte andaru devullu vunaru..lekunte yevaru leru....na devudu vunnadu..inkevaru leru ani pakka devulla meedha pakka mathala meedha yedavadam sinchukovadam yemi baktho artham kaadhu naaku....

this is the same across every religion....ikkada trailor batch ayina...tora boa batch ayina mana desam lo parks lo pellilu sesi mathanni parirakshisthunam ani feel ayye vaallayina...all belong to the same leauge ani na idhi.
JOHAR YSR.....YSR AMAR RAHE
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yeppudo bc kalam daka pokunte recent ga most of india oka rajyam ga vundhi mughals kinda, taruvatha east india company/ british kinda kadha....
JOHAR YSR.....YSR AMAR RAHE
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Vjavasi:

meeru hinduvu anukunna, leka atheist anukunna it doesn't matter....world will see you by your roots, your background, your country and your skin..




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vjavasi,

u dont know the west doesnt have those maladies it is the most efficient system that has evolved devoid of any short comings.
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meeru hinduvu anukunna, leka atheist anukunna it doesn't matter....world will see you by your roots, your background, your country and your skin.......Unfortunately people from India have very limited options....either they realize the economic, cultural, physical, political onslaught on them and get their act together or perish one group after other
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Senapathy:

Atoms can think babai atoms can think ;)




he he he ..
idhi oka chota chadivani.. cut an dpaste...

So, one group of atoms said to the others:

"Why don't one group put themselves together in a manner to create dirt, another group is to create water, and still another should create air.

Once we have accomplished those goals, we will regroup and create living creatures that depend upon dirt, water, and air to survive.

We will create one group that will live by sprouting roots into the dirt while still depending on air and water to live. Another group can also feed off of these rooted life forms.

But wait ... lets not rush into anything. Lets meet again in about 1 billion years and decide what to accomplish next.

It is great to be an atom with imagination!"

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