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Chasity of women important kadu ani ye book lo cheppi undi..




LOL...stop twisting words....important kadu ye book cheppaledu, ikkada kooda evaru cheppaledu...
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anand_n question repost: what taught you this ? RSS or your school or the society you grew up in ?



ye hindu book teesukunna same cheppudi basic di....ye nuvvu seppu Chasity of women important kadu ani ye book lo cheppi undi....
i am leading a pious life so far so good
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nake maa friends 2-3 numbers iccharu andaru hsbc ammaile....




oka chithu kagitham meeda 3 numbers rasi isthey ladies characterless ani decide ayyava..?? rasi iche vadi budhi gaddi thinte, mana budhi emi ayyindi..??
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repe last inko 1 month kanapadanu lendi...:D
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what sort of children can be expected from this type of women .....in 99% cases same characterless child is born ....




LOL...mundu women characterless ani decide chesavu...ippudu malli vallaki putte kids kooda same ani decide chesav....

first danike nee daggara explanation ledu...inka dani base chesukoni malli inko statement....

anand_n question repost: what taught you this ? RSS or your school or the society you grew up in ?

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do you have statistics or any links to prove 90% characterless OR its your just another Verbal Diarrhea...??



meere jamanalo unnaru occhi chudandi oo sari ardam avuddi engineering time lo nake maa friends 2-3 numbers iccharu andaru hsbc ammaile....
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naa mata vini oka 1 day self ban aiypo...

asale desam lo andari manobhavalu debba tintunnayi, ippudu a call center vollu case este owasi kante munde andar avtav....

nuvuu kamlesh, der posts chusi post chesseyaku iddaru field lo digi godava cheyaru...
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cheppukune vallu andaru pre 60s-70s ke poyaru



60s-70s ke puttaru ani chaduvukondi ....:D
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koncham anna alochinchandi uncles....abhimanyudu pottalo unnappudude padmavyuham nerchukunnadu .....pillodu kadupulu unnapudu chesedi think chesdi bothers more on the future of child.....
what sort of children can be expected from this type of women .....in 99% cases same characterless child is born ....

alani vadine society meedaki odili denkatam....malli society gabbu lesipoindi,nasanam ayipoindi anatam....
home&women are the primodial things if the experiment performed correctly leads to spectacular results ....else leads to disaster like the society now ...

kalla mundu clear ga truth kana padutunna oppukoleka pote inkem cheyyalem....

ye 1947 ki population 32-35c appaike oka bagatsingh,oka viveka,oka raman,oka chandrasekhar etc lanti personalities puttaru almost ippati great ani cheppukune vallu andaru pre 60s-70s ke poyaru ippudu charecterless broots ye unnaru max cases lo....yendukantarru stright ga answer cheyyandi....

women is the basic thing which must be proper else disaster ani intakante simple ga cheppala....
i am leading a pious life so far so good
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ballasticmissile kurrodi cap lo inko feather ee statement...

aa kurrodiki idi kotha kadu kaani tilak kurrodu certificate ivvadam parakashta. ..i feel you hv right attitude ani...
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vizag HSBC lone 90% bokulu call centre ammailu....inko noida gurinchi cheppakkarledu....




Bokulu ayite Rape Chesistara.... Enti Swamy Aa Language.
Alagayite Vallato tirigina Abbayi Boggallu Kaada.

Mr Bhagavath should explain me how 6 months - 10 year old girls provocative or look hot, and none is paying attention on atrocities in this age group

Male attitude should change first, and pathetic legal system should change
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vizag HSBC lone 90% bokulu call centre ammailu....inko noida gurinchi cheppakkarledu....



Tilak:

appatlo RSS gurinchi adigaavu ga .. vellava?



Tilak:

Right attitude unna vaallaki (which I feel you have)




now dont tell me you did not read his post....


Ravino: jail antava gandhi kuda welladu adhe bata lo jagan anna
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Se7en movie lo Mr.Spacey spoorthaaa? :-)
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I am speechless at your post 2841 ! Wow- what taught you this ? RSS or your school or the society you grew up in ?


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Ee new articles chaduvutu pics chuste chala basic doubt vachindi - why does RSS have a western uniform ? Logic emiti ?:-)

The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim
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vizag HSBC lone 90% bokulu call centre ammailu....inko noida gurinchi cheppakkarledu....

characterless di unna okkate chacchina okkate.....




do you have statistics or any links to prove 90% characterless OR its your just another Verbal Diarrhea...??
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Vivekananda seppindi gurtu undi 9th-12th rss meeting in viayawada....nannu rammanaru nenu on Pilgrimaze in maharastra....shirdi,shani sangnapur,pancha dwaraka yatra ki veltunna.......anduke velltalledu.... okasari chusi oddamani nakoo undi.....


marem parledu .. neeku veelu unnappude vellu.
India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda
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Vivekananda seppindi gurtu undi 9th-12th rss meeting in viayawada....nannu rammanaru nenu on Pilgrimaze in maharastra....shirdi,shani sangnapur,pancha dwaraka yatra ki veltunna.......anduke velltalledu.... okasari chusi oddamani nakoo undi.....:D
i am leading a pious life so far so good
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contact lo unnaru kani time leka involve avvaledu....chudali feb nunchi free ye


I am not trying to evangelize or anything. If you think so, dont this post read further.

Right attitude unna vaallaki (which I feel you have) RSS lanti organization lo social service, people management, ideological conviction etc lanti vaati meeda manchi grip dorukutundi. So go and see what a Shakha is for a month. And if you dont like, just move on. When I see youth wasting energy over trivial issues, makes me feel bad. Ala ani life ni nation ki dedicate cheyyamani cheppanu, family ni neglect cheyyakkarledu. Manaki veelu ainantha lo .. society tho involve aithe, it does make a difference in lives.

If you think what nonsense am I talking. I am reading Swami Vivekananda again.
India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda
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contact lo unnaru kani time leka involve avvaledu....chudali feb nunchi free ye
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JAFFA lo nunchi viraat hindoo puttadu
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tammi .. nuvvu undedi ekkada? Hyd? Vizag? appatlo RSS gurinchi adigaavu ga .. vellava?
India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda
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denamma 3 days nunchi sava denkutunnar ga thread ni......

manam undedi hindu desam lo hindu dharma ni follow avvandi....

akkada danni chesaru ikkada deenni charicharu desam kudisi poyindi...nakipoyindi lanti sollu aapandi.........

call center lo panichesedi chacchindi ante yedo thread yesaru....

vizag HSBC lone 90% bokulu call centre ammailu....inko noida gurinchi cheppakkarledu....

characterless di unna okkate chacchina okkate.....

denamma okkodu westernization modernize antu kirastani culture teesu kocchi ruddi malli sollu denkatam......

aa abraham gadu ye pedda howle gadu who is father of 3 religions kootullatone panukunna pundakuru wadi descendents ye ee 3 religions ....

malli dannunchi manam nerchukovi naa xxda ...abyudaya bavalu dashu.....

unte hinduvulaga undandi,mana dharmanni follow avvandi alane penchandi/undandi...leda evadu undamani adukotalledu ....aa jesus gani religion teruchukuni koorchundi velli doorandi andulo.....

parkullo ,beaches lo okkadu kakapote inkodu anukune charecter less di batikina chacchina okkate....

characterless vallani support chese vallaki aa xian oolle correct roante istamocchinattu tagi tandanaladandi yevarito anna xxxicchukondi naa deggaraki occhi ongondi sunday....naa papalni kshaminchu ani prardinchu esus bolld anukui grape juice tagu....thats it.....

ado religion,ado civilized society danni nunchi manam nerchukuni dobbinchukovali....thu...
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Prastutam vunna charged atmosphere lo he should not have talked of martial relationships knowing that the media is ready to pounce on him


he is delivering a routine speech, in a RSS organized program, as its Sarsanghchalak. And tappu ga kuda emi matladaledu. Infact, distort chesi telecast chesina valle sorry cheppalsi raavadam .. janam ki vaallu elanti agenda tho operate chestunnaro ardam ayyela chesindi. Thats enough for this episode.
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Prastutam vunna charged atmosphere lo he should not have talked of martial relationships knowing that the media is ready to pounce on him
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Tilak bhagavat noru vippalsindhi kadu


eppudu? deni gurinchi? enduku? expand ..
India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda
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Tilak bhagavat noru vippalsindhi kadu
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cut the crap ..
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Sanatanam




malli avi techi mix seyyaku..... HIndu sanathana dharmam pracharam chesukunte good.... moral policing on soceity chesthe waste...do pracharam thats it..dont push
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kiki...chusaamu ga


Chaala chusaamu .. chaala chustamu .. Sanatanam ..
India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda
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They are very wise




kiki...chusaamu ga
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Better they stick to hindu dharmam and pracharam and respected by everyone


They are very wise and pious than normal lazy bums. They dont need our ratass wisdom.
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oka statement daani meaning explain cheyyadaniki padhi statements, daani sarcasm explain ki inko padhi mandhi...avasaramaa...musalollaki doola P vaagudu kakapote


Better they stick to hindu dharmam and pracharam and respected by everyone

moral policing chesinappudalla doola teeripodhi
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malla eeroju edo anatlu unnaru RSS chief marriage gurinchi...foot in the mouth ype lo undhi eeyana paristhiti...akkada MNS rj kurrod emo biharis ni targeting as usual suspects...evadi agenda vaaidhi




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TV channels again caught with egg on face. Took3 line extract refg to marriages in West frm Bhagwat speech & played as his views on marriage




https://twitter.com/madhukishwar

as usual ..
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malla eeroju edo anatlu unnaru RSS chief marriage gurinchi...foot in the mouth ype lo undhi eeyana paristhiti...akkada MNS rj kurrod emo biharis ni targeting as usual suspects...evadi agenda vaaidhi
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koddhiga... chaala koddhigaa... hindu right wing vasanalu unnaaa...when it comes to talk abt issues frankly u rock

tilak,der lanti vallu, valla ideologies, valla guruvulu.. hindutva ki damage tappa use ledhu
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Bhagwat thalakai
rural india lo, rapes are happening on a regular basis
he needs to read indian news papers
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kurnool jilla anugonda ane metro city....kiki RSS
http://epaper.eenadu.net/pdf/2013/01/06/20130106a_014101002. jpg
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OT vi avutaav


ante?
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adhi village aa metro aa erriP ideologist bhagwat garu ?


erriP OT .. noru jagartha .. OT vi avutaav malli ..
India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda
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Tilak,

Forget about PAST, we need to look at PRESENT and deal with the CURRENT day problems!

While it is WISE to look at HISTORY to take APPROPRIATE actions that are STILL relevant to current conditions, we cann't ADVOCATE living like the OLDEN days where WOMEN were NOT GIVEN equal opportunities.

Someone in this THREAD is saying that WOMEN dressing PROVOCATIVELY invites RAPE attempts. Who are WE to TELL any other PERSON on how to DRESS, EAT & BEHAVE as long as what they are doing is LEGAL?

By the SAME argument, cann't anyone KILL someone who is DRIVING a luxuary cars or wearing expensie cloths and STEAL their car/money?
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adhi village aa metro aa erriP ideologist bhagwat garu





nuvvu mohan bhagawat emi annaro vinnava?
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Delhi Sultanate 1200 anta...ala choosina 1700 years of "Bharat" from 500 BCE to 1200 CE




Inthaki ee 1700 years ni emi chestunnaru? Idhantha Marxist history, memu oppukom ani cheppi chethulu dulipeskuntunnara?
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adhi village aa metro aa erriP ideologist bhagwat garu ?




nee pilla pu matalu aapu.
Sadaru vyakthi Sarvabhouma_rao Appatlo Paga_Babai_Paga
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http://www.eenadu.net/Homeinner.aspx?item=break99

adhi village aa metro aa erriP ideologist bhagwat garu ?
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The way Lakshmana punished Surphanakha became a funny thing to laugh for us rather than looking at how a weaker sex was over done


annai.. enduku telisi teleekunda arguments.. Surpanaka tried to kill Sita which is the reason why she was punished by Lakshmana.
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D_D,

whats ur take on dharmaraju betting draupadi and the subsequent vasthraapa haranam??

IMO --Dharmaraju needs to be punished more than kauravaas for this




Vasthraapa Haranam = Attempting to humiliate Draupadi so that Duryodhana can get even.
Dharmaraju betting Draupadi = Very, very, very messed up. But remember that Dharmaraju is a gambler. Sakuni teases him and more or less convinces him that he should do it. I'm not saying that this is justified but it's like someone with a gambling problem going to Vegas. They really can't control themselves. It's an addiction like alcohol. Remember that Dharmaraju also bets his brothers and even himself. So he's not just betting Draupadi because she's a woman. He's even betting his own brothers...

My take on the Mahabharatha was that it's attempting to show that no one is perfect. Everyone has their weaknesses and strengths even the most noble of men
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D_D,

whats ur take on dharmaraju betting draupadi and the subsequent vasthraapa haranam??

IMO --Dharmaraju needs to be punished more than kauravaas for this
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D_D
i am not supporting surphanakha but telling the way lakshmana punished..

maamoolugaa ladies ni touch cheyyaru--alaantidhi chevulu mukku koyyadam just because she expressed interest was much of an over done...




I'm not saying you are supporting her...

If I remember Ramayana correctly, Surpanaka either threatens to attack Sita or attacks her (after finding out Rama is married to Sita and is faithful to her)...that's why Lakshamana attacks Surpanaka.

Lakshamana doesn't attack her because he's a sadist or anything. He's trying to protect his brother and his brother's wife in that context...
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D_D and Tilak

My core issue was to say that draupadi was commodified ani..dhaanni vadilesi u guys are quoting some wikipedia??

Draupadi opinion pakkana pedithe asalu oka ammaayini idhuguru panchukovadam anedhi abuse against the women avunaa kaadhaa?




1. I never quoted Wiki. I think the Wiki quote by Tilak was to say that the use of "fruit" wasn't commodification. It was miscommunication between Pandavas and Kunti
2. My point is that you can't take one incident and say that it reflects the sentiments of the whole culture at that time

I can see your point about not taking her opinion into consideration. But how is it abuse against women? Draupadi ni emi himsinchaledhu kadha...abuse might be too big a word.
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i am not supporting surphanakha but telling the way lakshmana punished..

maamoolugaa ladies ni touch cheyyaru--alaantidhi chevulu mukku koyyadam just because she expressed interest was much of an over done...
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D_D and Tilak

My core issue was to say that draupadi was commodified ani..dhaanni vadilesi u guys are quoting some wikipedia??

Draupadi opinion pakkana pedithe asalu oka ammaayini idhuguru panchukovadam anedhi abuse against the women avunaa kaadhaa?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draupadi#Marriage_to_the_Pandav as

Thats how credible our arguments are. Demolishing a false narrative doesnt take much time. But it sure does consume some energy.




Yep. This version of the story is what I learned as a kid too...
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*attitudes of all Indian men and say they want to dominate the "weaker" sex.

Sorry for the typo
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don_draper

extra polation enti?? Kunthi did not even see draupadi thats why she says divide equally among brothers...




Kunti doesn't know that Draupadi isn't a fruit. That's why she asks them to divide equally.

Lakshamana-Surpanaka incident ni pattukuni, I don't think you can generalize about the attitudes of all Indian women and say they want to dominate the weaker sex.

Context matters when reading the epics
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When pandavas shared a common wife (without even asking Draupadi) and calling it as Thalli vaakku paalana -- Amma oka pandu ni thechaanu emi cheyyamantaavu ani arjunudu ani adugu thaadu-- there lies the Commodification of women -- equating her to a FRUIT..



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Drupada intended that Arjuna alone win the hand of his daughter. Upon hearing of the Pandavas' supposed death at Varanavata he set up a swayamvara for Draupadi. The princes vying for Draupadi's hand had to shoot five arrows at a revolving target, while looking only at its reflection in a bowl. Drupada was confident that only Arjuna could accomplish this task. Arriving with his brothers disguised as Brahmins (priests), Arjuna successfully tackled the target, which other kings and prince were unable to accomplish.
While in exile, Kunti, mother of the Pandavas often advised her sons that they share everything they have (or obtain through Bhiksha, i.e. alms) equally amongst themselves. Upon returning home with Draupadi, on purpose, Yudhisthira addresses his mother first "Look mother, what we have brought ". Kunti, unmindful of what Yudhisthira was referring to, unassumingly asked her son to share whatever it is with his brothers. Thus, in order to obey their mother's order all five accepted Draupadi as their wife.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draupadi#Marriage_to_the_Pandav as

Thats how credible our arguments are. Demolishing a false narrative doesnt take much time. But it sure does consume some energy.
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Tilak:

Most "trained historians" in India are renowned for their marxist leanings when it comes to history.




Okay. Who are some historians who you consider to not have Marxist leanings?
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extra polation enti?? Kunthi did not even see draupadi thats why she says divide equally among brothers...

she then repents and asks arjuna to reverse the decision but arjuna wont.. while this was all going on no body asks Draupadi's opinion..

Take other example of Dharma raju (who knows more dharma ) betting on Draupadi..
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I think both the articles were written by Indian professors at Indian universities.


Most "trained historians" in India are renowned for their marxist leanings when it comes to history.
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Tilak:

What is manusmriti and what it contains has been widely debated. Scholars like Swami Chinmayananda and Dayananda Saraswati have given a totally different meaning to what the "trained/western historians" have interpreted it and propagated about it as.

I am glad, you could find some period which is close to utopia. Early Vedic Period refers to around 1200 BC I think .. you can yourself do some research as to how the societies were during Buddha's period, Asoka's period, Gupta empire, Adi Sankara's period, Bhakti movement period etc and draw conclusions yourselves. May be that would expand the time periods of "utopia".




I think both the articles were written by Indian professors at Indian universities.

I'm not trying to expand the period of "utopia". I'm try to point out that there was also a significant period where there was no such utopia (even in "Bharat"). According to both those articles, that's from 500 BCE onwards
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Rural India especially in JATS lo oka practice undhi..
intlo unde ann dhammullu veru veru ammayilanu pelli chesukunte land divide cheyyalsi vasthundhi ani oka ammayine pelli chesukuntaaru..

Economic compulsions main reason ayinaa ikkda kooda women abuse ee kada??

dheeni gurinchi evaru enduku raise cheyyadam ledhu
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Don_draper:

Anyway, it seems like "early vedic period" was the utopia you and Bhagwat seem to claim it was. But after 500 BCE and the manu smriti, women's freedoms were curtailed.


What is manusmriti and what it contains has been widely debated. Scholars like Swami Chinmayananda and Dayananda Saraswati have given a totally different meaning to what the "trained/western historians" have interpreted it and propagated about it as.

I am glad, you could find some period which is close to utopia. Early Vedic Period refers to around 1200 BC I think .. you can yourself do some research as to how the societies were during Buddha's period, Asoka's period, Gupta empire, Adi Sankara's period, Bhakti movement period etc and draw conclusions yourselves. May be that would expand the time periods of "utopia".
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The way Lakshmana punished Surphanakha became a funny thing to laugh for us rather than looking at how a weaker sex was over done

When pandavas shared a common wife (without even asking Draupadi) and calling it as Thalli vaakku paalana -- Amma oka pandu ni thechaanu emi cheyyamantaavu ani arjunudu ani adugu thaadu-- there lies the Commodification of women -- equating her to a FRUIT..




Lakshmana didn't punish Surphanakha for pleasure or to dominate the weaker sex.

I think that was a metaphor. My cousins used to call me "pandu" when I was a kid...does that mean all men/babies are commodified.

Extrapolation is a dangerous thing
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babar 1526 loo vachinaa, almost 1000 ad nunchi muslim rule vundi...delhi sultanate...lodhis, kiljis, tuglaks etc dynasties...




Delhi Sultanate 1200 anta...ala choosina 1700 years of "Bharat" from 500 BCE to 1200 CE
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Ancient india lo women were behind the doors and hence the accessibility to them was less compared to now.. thats why we are seeing more crimes than before anthe ganee appudu women ni more respect anadam inappropriate statement..

SATI was barbaric but they were worshipped as GODDesses..

Tonsuring widow women and making them look ugly -- was inhumane but it was a riwaaz to protect them from evil eyes-- Ancient india lo antha respect unte SATI or ee gundu kottadam avasaram undedhi kadhu

Women was always a thing of pleasure for us.. Abuse/derogation of women started right from Ramayana -- when Rama left a pregnant lady in the forest and was hailed as the greatest ruler ever..

The way Lakshmana punished Surphanakha became a funny thing to laugh for us rather than looking at how a weaker sex was over done

When pandavas shared a common wife (without even asking Draupadi) and calling it as Thalli vaakku paalana -- Amma oka pandu ni thechaanu emi cheyyamantaavu ani arjunudu ani adugu thaadu-- there lies the Commodification of women -- equating her to a FRUIT..
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Don_draper:

So from 500 BCE to 1500 CE (~2000 years), women in "Bharat" did not enjoy equal rights.


babar 1526 loo vachinaa, almost 1000 ad nunchi muslim rule vundi...delhi sultanate...lodhis, kiljis, tuglaks etc dynasties...
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raper ani enduku pettukunnav...motham enni rapes chesaavo nijam cheppu




Ante...adhi...ippudu...

Inka nayam le, drape ani undhi...curtains amey vadiva ani adagaledhu
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Don_draper:

I agree with you in theory but I don't think all the rapes that happen in India (or anywhere) are on women during odd hours, being in a private place with provocative attire, mingling with guys who drink, or with a playful attitude.


you are reading it wrong. Where did I said all the rapes are due to this? but even if a part of them are because of this, can't we avoid them by taking some precautions? Thats all my point.
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Don ani unte Bombay Don ani decide chesara


raper ani enduku pettukunnav...motham enni rapes chesaavo nijam cheppu
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evaru nuvvu...bombai loo emi chesevadivi..nijam cheppu




Don ani unte Bombay Don ani decide chesara
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evaru nuvvu...bombai loo emi chesevadivi..nijam cheppu
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1. being urself in an isolated place during odd hours.
2. being with one's own BF in private place with a provocative attire.
3. mingling with guys who gets drink and lost their senses..
4. an attitude of lets play with the herd and have fun.

basically its all boils down to one's own application of common sense and judgement concerning to personal safety.




Illusionist garu, don't you think that a lot of these are subjective rules?

I agree with you in theory but I don't think all the rapes that happen in India (or anywhere) are on women during odd hours, being in a private place with provocative attire, mingling with guys who drink, or with a playful attitude.
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Babar's invasion was around the 1500s, right?

So from 500 BCE to 1500 CE (~2000 years), women in "Bharat" did not enjoy equal rights.

Or are you going to say the only period that counts is the early vedic period?
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Tilak garu,

Here's what I found:

http://www.isrj.net/publisharticles/502.pdf - Indian Streams Research Journal
http://www.ijsrp.org/research_paper_jun2012/ijsrp-June-2012- 95.pdf - International Journal of Scientific and Research Publications

Both claim to be peer reviewed...

//According to studies, women enjoyed equal status and rights during the early vedic period. However, later (approximately 500 B.C) the status of women began to decline with the smirtis (especially manusmriti) and with the Islamic invasion of Babar and the Mughal empire and later Christianity curtailing women's freedom and rights.Although reformatory movements such as Jainism allowed women to be admitted to the religious order, by and large, the women in India faced confinement and restrictions. The practice of child marriages is believed to have started from around sixth century.//

I found a couple of other articles too. One was about the manu smriti and that was from an atheist site so I didn't put a lot of stock in it. The other two looked like essays written by college students which repeated the same things from these articles.

Anyway, it seems like "early vedic period" was the utopia you and Bhagwat seem to claim it was. But after 500 BCE and the manu smriti, women's freedoms were curtailed.

I'm not surprised that Islam and Christianity hurt the rights of women as they're some of the most anti-women religions out there
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I don't have an agenda or anything to have a favorite historian. It doesn't take a genius to know that the vast majority of the stuff available on the internet is absolute crap. It's about doing one's due diligence and citing courses that have at least a shred of credibility
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read as i am not denying in my previous post
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Tilak:

Who is your favorite historian?




Favorite hero, favorite politician laaga favorite historian kuda untara?
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Truelies:

draupadi skirts vesukoledu, still dussasanudu puttadu
seeta skirts vesukoledu, still ravanasurudu puttadu
sairandhri skirts vesukoledu, still keechakudu puttadu



In case of Draupadi and Sita, it is a personal revenge.

draupadi mayasabha lo navvindi ani apoha tho aame ni avamaninchalani prayatninchadu.
Soorpanakha ni avamaninchadu ane kopam tho Ravanudu sita ni teesukollaadu.

keechakudu sairandhri ki propose chestadu. tappu em kaadu kada.. in those days. aame ni balavantam ga charachalani prayatninchaledu.

again, i am denying the fact evil do exist as long as human beings exist. gulabi unna chote mullu kooda untayi. everything has 2 facets. beauty is a boon and so is a curse. so it is just advising a caution. car ki accelerator okkate unte saripodu kada.. brakes kooda undali kada..
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thondi aaduthunnav...veellu idharoo same 2 same kadhaa




vallu iddaroo same, but dussasanudu, kichakudu veru veru kada....

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Truelies:

draupadi



Truelies:

sairandhri


thondi aaduthunnav...veellu idharoo same 2 same kadhaa
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Don_draper:

What is creating an opportunity (for rapes) in your opinion?




1. being urself in an isolated place during odd hours.
2. being with one's own BF in private place with a provocative attire.
3. mingling with guys who gets drink and lost their senses..
4. an attitude of lets play with the herd and have fun.

basically its all boils down to one's own application of common sense and judgement concerning to personal safety.
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Tilak:

waste of effort .. I can bet you cant convince them by logic and reason ..




thanks and same to you.
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so dont create opportunity anedi cheptam..




oka adadi, oka magodu first time bhumi meeda puttinappude, rape opportunity kooda puttindi....idedo 2012 lo puttinattu feel ayipothunnaru..

draupadi skirts vesukoledu, still dussasanudu puttadu
seeta skirts vesukoledu, still ravanasurudu puttadu
sairandhri skirts vesukoledu, still keechakudu puttadu

i clearly told my stand in post 5413. emanna doubts unte adugu..
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Don_draper:

It's not written by a historian or peer-reviewed.


Who is your favorite historian?
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opportunity unnappudu andaru manchiga undalani rule em ledu.. so dont create opportunity anedi cheptam.. It is like locking the house while going out or during sleeping. Donga tanam chesina vaadidi tappu avvachu.. kani ikkada mana jagarta lo manam undatleda.. leka I will open all my doors.. police has to save my house antunnama..same goes with rapes to.. avoid creating opportunity.




What is creating an opportunity (for rapes) in your opinion?
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Tilak:

Suggested reading - History of Hindu India - Available on Amazon




http://www.amazon.com/History-Hindu-Satguru-Bodhinatha-Veyla nswami/dp/1934145386/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1357393576&sr=8- 1&keywords=history+of+hindu+india

Is that the book? If so, again it's not from an academic source. It's not written by a historian or peer-reviewed.
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opportunity unnappudu andaru manchiga undalani rule em ledu.. so dont create opportunity anedi cheptam.. It is like locking the house while going out or during sleeping. Donga tanam chesina vaadidi tappu avvachu.. kani ikkada mana jagarta lo manam undatleda.. leka I will open all my doors.. police has to save my house antunnama..same goes with rapes to.. avoid creating opportunity.


waste of effort .. I can bet you cant convince them by logic and reason ..
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Truelies:

but second di oka group of people trying to impose restrictions on their personal choice to another section of people forcibly....violating their rights.


bongemana kadu. unlike other forms of crimes like murders and thefts (not those petty done by professionals) which are planned, but majority of rapes are unplanned and driven by opportunity. kani rapists neither professional and rapes are not planned.

opportunity unnappudu andaru manchiga undalani rule em ledu.. so dont create opportunity anedi cheptam.. It is like locking the house while going out or during sleeping. Donga tanam chesina vaadidi tappu avvachu.. kani ikkada mana jagarta lo manam undatleda.. leka I will open all my doors.. police has to save my house antunnama..same goes with rapes to.. avoid creating opportunity.
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Don_draper:

Ya. Unfortunately that's what I'm left with because I can't see any reasoning behind your statements (or Bhagwat's) so far, aside from a .com link citing a non-historian/non-academic


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Tiana:

Inta kante pedda abaddham inkoti vundadu. Bbalya vivahalu ee country lo jarigaayi/jarugutunnay ? Pelli chesukune wife ni cheap eduru dabbu ichi(kanya sulkam) pasi pillalni musalollu konukotam ee country lo jarigindi ?malli vachi arab shaik lu bad antaaru.veellu chesindi ento. Sati ee country lo chesevaaru ? Ippatiki dowry enduku teesukuntunnaaru ? Respect ledu thotakura katta ledu.

Rural areas lo ilaanti incidents jaragava..lol..sagam uneducated vuntaaru. Jarigindi chepte emavuddo ani bhayapadataaru.middle class ppl paruvu ki bhaya padataaru. Oka 10% ppl westernized ayinanta maatraana illanti incidents jarugutunnay ane vaalani telisi comment cheyyamanaali. Alaanti comment pass chesodiki either kooturu vundi vundakapovachu ledaa sarayina manishi kaakapovachu.


Issue ni ardam chesukokapovadam .. "progressive" vyaasalu raayadam .. fashion statement aipoyindi ..

Bhagwat clearly told he is talking about a Bharat with values where women are looked at like a goddess (if it refers to rural India, so be it - even today in rural North India, there are families where even elders bow down to small girls ani example kuda icharu) - understand the example he gave and then pass judgments - if you have a concern that those practices are an exception to the rule .. i can understand .. but jumping and pouncing to hit below the belt is pure prejudice which you and the other 2 people chose to expose.

Tiana:

Thread mottam chadavaledu annai. Aa respect post choodagaane navvalo edavaalo artham avala. India edo bhootsla swargam annatlu build up istunte.


evado build up ichestunnadani .. thread mottam chadavakundane .. urgent aagipoyi judgment pass chesesaava tammi .. daanne prejudice antaru .. LOL
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Tiana:

oka kooturu vundi vunte kaasta alochinchi vaage vaadu ani. Tana daaka vaste kaani telvavu kadaa kontamandiki.




kuthuru lekapothenemi talli ayuthe untundi kadaa def ga uzless baa
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coolmac...
i am leading a pious life so far so good
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Ntr Rocks, aa post to abbaayi ani artham ayyinda , ee thread lo naa first post ammaayi laaga leda ?

Stalker, ante na vuddesam, oka kooturu vundi vunte kaasta alochinchi vaage vaadu ani. Tana daaka vaste kaani telvavu kadaa kontamandiki.
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maaa pochayya chopra kanapadatam ledu...brathike vunnaadaa...bunker lonchi bayataki vachaadaa



pakkana edo thed lo unnadu soodu.. ash baa quit annadu obam vunkl win aite.. mari eppudu quitting ooo telvadu..
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maaa pochayya chopra kanapadatam ledu...brathike vunnaadaa...bunker lonchi bayataki vachaadaa
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either kooturu vundi vundakapovachu



kuthuru unte okalaaga lekapothe oka laaga alochistara...god bless
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Farmer annai, long time, no see. Doctor meerundaga maakenduku bhayam :p




nnuvvu ammayivi kaadu..3 id kuda pattesa...aa 4 kuda inka konni posts este bagunnu
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same ip



n that is proxyyy
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same ip thoo 3 ids ante general gaa mana pochayya baa nee sesthadu attanti thuntari yevvaralu...but posting style atlaa kottatam ledhu
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same IP tho 3 IDs posting daatar garu.. gabukunna think sesi seffandi evarooo..
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Neee valakam choosthante kothagaa Db ki vachina Ukg student laga levu...old Id ettu
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Farmer annai, long time, no see. Doctor meerundaga maakenduku bhayam :p
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Thread mottam chadavaledu annai. Aa respect post choodagaane navvalo edavaalo artham avala. India edo bhootsla swargam annatlu build up istunte.
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aaa aavesam choosi gwarantee gaa pothaaru anukunnaa
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Tiana:




same to same points kinda already don_draper raised....



rapes appudu jarigayi, ippudu jaruguthunnayi, future lo jaruguthayi..
streelanu respect chese vallu appudu unnaru, ipudu unnaru, future lo untaru.

rape chese psychos doesn't belong to one place or one city or one caste or one religion or one specific period...its all individual mentality...
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we used to respect women and we are not these days .. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Inta kante pedda abaddham inkoti vundadu. Bbalya vivahalu ee country lo jarigaayi/jarugutunnay ? Pelli chesukune wife ni cheap eduru dabbu ichi(kanya sulkam) pasi pillalni musalollu konukotam ee country lo jarigindi ?malli vachi arab shaik lu bad antaaru.veellu chesindi ento. Sati ee country lo chesevaaru ? Ippatiki dowry enduku teesukuntunnaaru ? Respect ledu thotakura katta ledu.

Rural areas lo ilaanti incidents jaragava..lol..sagam uneducated vuntaaru. Jarigindi chepte emavuddo ani bhayapadataaru.middle class ppl paruvu ki bhaya padataaru. Oka 10% ppl westernized ayinanta maatraana illanti incidents jarugutunnay ane vaalani telisi comment cheyyamanaali. Alaanti comment pass chesodiki either kooturu vundi vundakapovachu ledaa sarayina manishi kaakapovachu.
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Zulu:

so, your problem is a section telling girls to coverup? cool.




annai, if girls feel that skimpy dreses are causing the issue, let them or parents take the decision....if wearing a kanchi pattu saree will avoid rapes let them wear that...
no MLA or any group can impose these type of restrictions forcibly or can argue that only skirts causing rapes......enduku ante already cheppa...rapes are not new to india...

BTW, repu vallu aaru gajala cheeralu kattukoni thirigina kooda rapes jaruguthayi...appudu emi chestham..??? illallo petti thalalu vesi magallam manam mathram bayata thirugudam...
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Tilak:

http://kafila.org/2013/01/04/notes-from-a-bachelorette-party -in-new-india-swathi-sukumar/

This happens in a progressive place called India, not in a Bharat with values/sanskaars!




wow...that is a shocker !! at least to me......
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but second di oka group of people trying to impose restrictions on their personal choice to another section of people forcibly....violating their rights.




Ala annavu bavundi..

so, your problem is a section telling girls to coverup? cool.
A section can tell what ever they want, unless they make it a law to coverup..I dont mind the preaching.
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Zulu:

girls carry pepper spay..guns..those are called 'preventive measures', coveringup can be another 'preventive measure'.




first di evariki vallu decision theesukontaru...to carry or not..

but second di oka group of people trying to impose restrictions on their personal choice to another section of people forcibly....violating their rights.

renditi theda undi..
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manishi ememi choosthe wild gaa avuthadu? any common man? dabbu bank lo kanipinche daniki...eduru oka ammayi kavvinchatam okate ante...nenu emi comment seyyalenu....




psycho nako li ammayilu, dabbulu avasaram unna dongalaki bank...rendoo okkate....evadi avasaram vadiki important...

manam banks ban cheyyalemu, hotel vallani food hide chesi pettukondi ani cheppam..

rape chese psycho gallaki potti skirt aina, aaru gajala cheera unna chese edavalu chesthunte untaru.....

potti skirts ee madhya start chesaru... but rapelu bhumi puttinappati nunchi unnayi jaruguthune unnayi desam lo...
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There is more to Rape than Law and Order..

If rape is Legal, would every man rape? NO

If every rape is illegal, would every one stop raping? NO

Janalu maree feel aipothunnaru..vere view chepthey
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Truelies:


its purely law & order issue....thappu chesina vanni bokkalo nookali..anthey...




Bokkalo law and order..rape ki 10+ years punishment unna US lo kooda rapes jaruguthayi...girls carry pepper spay..guns..those are called 'preventive measures', coveringup can be another 'preventive measure'.

No country..No Police system however effective it is cannot prevent every rape..it can only minimize them.
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Truelies:

road meeda hotels, sweet shops...food items public display untayi...dabbulu unte kontam, lekunte moosukoni potham....thega akali vesindi kada ani d'kelli pomu ...




kama krodha mada matsyaralu annaru kaani aakali analedu.... neeku BS argument anipincha vachu..but thats the fact....better safe than sorry....anni vippesukuni thirugutha emi seyyoddu ante andaru sathivikulu vundaru..ledu na istam ante...consequences face cheyyali....ayyaka malli gaggolu pedithe use vundadu...

1 billion poplation emi cehsthunnaro monitor cheyyatam evadi valla kaadu....ee govt ina emi pekaledu....

ippukuuni thirige danikesi 100 mandi adola choosthe...mamulu gaa velle daani vanka 5 members adola choostharu....

Truelies:



bank ki pothe notla kattalu kalla eduruga untayi..kharchulu unnayi kada ani d'kelli pothama..??

chethilo kathi (vegetables) untundi....theraga unnadu kada ani evadinanna podichesthama...??

its purely law & order issue....thappu chesina vanni bokkalo nookali..anthey...




manishi ememi choosthe wild gaa avuthadu? any common man? dabbu bank lo kanipinche daniki...eduru oka ammayi kavvinchatam okate ante...nenu emi comment seyyalenu....
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potti skirts kabatti chusthu oorukovala..?? anduke rapes jaruguthunnayi...is BS argument...

road meeda hotels, sweet shops...food items public display untayi...dabbulu unte kontam, lekunte moosukoni potham....thega akali vesindi kada ani d'kelli pomu ...

bank ki pothe notla kattalu kalla eduruga untayi..kharchulu unnayi kada ani d'kelli pothama..??

chethilo kathi (vegetables) untundi....theraga unnadu kada ani evadinanna podichesthama...??

its purely law & order issue....thappu chesina vanni bokkalo nookali..anthey...
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Sachin:

monna delhi lo inko incident jarigindigaaaa 2 IT people okammayini rape chesaaaru


weak minds playing with weak minds aame kuda samarpinchukodanike elli untadi but iddaru ani expect cheyyaledu.
Pratyusha case similar anukunta kada?
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ok peddayana context vere ayana oohinchukunna samskarabharithamaina bharath with 100% RSS sevaks not possible kaabatti picha li8 teeskunna .. It is never going to happen in real life. do ooha bharitha ramarajyam ante kastam .. media ki pani m ledu ilanti news veyyadaniki
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ala ante retrogess ideas antaru....westernisation lo emundi? emi values vuntunnayi janallo? anni rakaluga exploit chesi dobbuthunnaru...prathi vallani marketing lo part chesaru.....

ammayilu mid nights pubs lo thagi thandalu aadithe ..allaki police protection kalpinchali..malli evaranna edanna ante individual freedom ki value leda antaru? poni edanna ithe mallo gaggolu pedatharu...govt lk gallu adi cheyyatm idi cheyyatam ledu ani....

potti potti skirts ..over exposing vallu chestha vuntaru..rowdy lu...rapists matram choostha vundali but emi cheyyakudadu.




ittanti valla valla amayakulu bali ipothunnaru
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emainaa seppandi wesernisation di definitely indulo pathra undi...

deenemmma G balupu kakapothe ekkado net lo thagilinoditho mandeyataniki poyindanta monna papa...




ala ante retrogess ideas antaru....westernisation lo emundi? emi values vuntunnayi janallo? anni rakaluga exploit chesi dobbuthunnaru...prathi vallani marketing lo part chesaru.....

ammayilu mid nights pubs lo thagi thandalu aadithe ..allaki police protection kalpinchali..malli evaranna edanna ante individual freedom ki value leda antaru? poni edanna ithe mallo gaggolu pedatharu...govt lk gallu adi cheyyatm idi cheyyatam ledu ani....

potti potti skirts ..over exposing vallu chestha vuntaru..rowdy lu...rapists matram choostha vundali but emi cheyyakudadu...
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pissi dash mindsets
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monna delhi lo inko incident jarigindigaaaa 2 IT people okammayini rape chesaaaru
share ki gross ki thedaa theliyakapothenemi...box office disco lo iragadeeyochu...excel, palakol, 292 ki ki ki...
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emainaa seppandi wesernisation di definitely indulo pathra undi... deenemmma G balupu kakapothe ekkado net lo thagilinoditho mandeyataniki poyindanta monna papa...


evvaru?
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emainaa seppandi wesernisation di definitely indulo pathra undi...

deenemmma G balupu kakapothe ekkado net lo thagilinoditho mandeyataniki poyindanta monna papa...
share ki gross ki thedaa theliyakapothenemi...box office disco lo iragadeeyochu...excel, palakol, 292 ki ki ki...
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peddayanaki mike evadu ichadu chadastam tho champestunnadu kada
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http://kafila.org/2013/01/04/notes-from-a-bachelorette-party -in-new-india-swathi-sukumar/

This happens in a progressive place called India, not in a Bharat with values/sanskaars!
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rss valu vala retrogress ideas, chass.
This real estate is for sale.
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aina village ki city ki zana saandradha soodali kada ...iyyal repu ki
rock(8557):nenu ekkada nundi chupinchamantav. commonsense thappithe na dhaggara proof emi ledhu.
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thats partially true.... rural places lo mostly telisina valle vuntaru..vooralo jananiki bhayapadatharu...but pushkarinikooo attempt ithe jaragochu..success ayye chances takkuva...(minor ithe tappa)

but human behavior ekkda vunna okkate...city lo evadu evadiki teleedu...chances ekkvua...teliyaka poye chances ekkvua (random candidate ithe)..village lo battaludadeesi kodatharu....next maree intha perverts vundaru ani naa feeling...

I may be wrong...maa side ila vuntadi environment...so migtha india antha ela vuntadoo naaku idea ledu
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quote:

Kiran Bedi â@thekiranbedi (In the morning)

Crimes against women is not an issue of Bharat vs India but Bharat AND India! Because of the broken down policing and justice systems!

Kiran Bedi â@thekiranbedi (after she heard/saw the video)

@OyeKuldeep From the speech Bharat for Mr Bhagwat meant value based India not urban rural divide? He has been wrongly understood so far! Txs




retrograde attitudes .. insane things .. equating Bhagwat with an uneducated Mullah ..

exposes the prejudice we have .. when we simply pounce on someone based on what media manufactures, and we dont even need to see if we are waiting for the truth to kick someone in the butt. Nice job.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGu8nNLfpyE

The speech ..

Media's dirty job exposed!!!
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Bhagwat claimed that violence against women, in the way of rapes and gangrapes, is a phenomenon restricted to urban India and went on to say that such 'things' do not happen in rural India, where traditional values hold sway.>>>>


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this guy is similar to the the rep guy from midwest who made dumbass comments about pregnanacy due to rape

http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/after-laxman-rekha-warning -to-women-bjp-minister-withdraws-remark-313284?h_related_als o_see
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Yahoo:

Westernization showing a woman is a sex object/commidity that will be easily available for a price tag.




ae western desamlo choosi ee opinion form chesukunnav?

Yahoo:

ee vishyam lo manam Europe ni adarsham theesukovaali..




you are blaming western cultures and malli vaallani adarsam gaa theesukovatam enti?
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forests of the country and there will be no such incidents





inka nayam bay of bengal lo vethakaledu hehe

village lo enduku levu rapelu? akkada kooda untayi
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Ya. Unfortunately that's what I'm left with because I can't see any reasoning behind your statements (or Bhagwat's) so far, aside from a .com link citing a non-historian/non-academic
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So you and Bhagwat can't provide actual, valid reasons?


I guess, you are at liberty to draw your own conclusions.
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contrary




Do comment on how widows were treated as well...especially in instances of child marriage
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a devoted women has very will to give up her body after death of her husband,even near ones do not agree she has her own means of fulfilling highest desire though near ones do not agree....

u may see it as suicide but on contrary really devoted ones show that as a way saying that human body is a fabric which can be torn at any moment ,and the soul is immortal....
i am leading a pious life so far so good
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Did I ever say that? Please look up what a "Straw man" argument is. Because that's what you're making in many posts here. You seem to be evading questions very clearly...

So you and Bhagwat can't provide actual, valid reasons?
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Don_draper:

Are you saying Sati never happened? Or that we didn't treat widows poorly? I'm genuinely curious to see your and Bhagwat's point of view but only when it's backed up by valid reasons.


Are you saying, India's history ends with widows and practice of Sati???

Anyways, since you are so curious, I am sure, you will find yourself in the path of knowledge and reason - on this topic.
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Seems like you are making generalizations about people based on one post. Are you saying Sati never happened? Or that we didn't treat widows poorly? I'm genuinely curious to see your and Bhagwat's point of view but only when it's backed up by valid reasons.

If you read the Wiki entry yourself, you'll note that Wilson has zero credentials as a historian.
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Don_draper:

Tilak garu, can you please post something of an academic nature? In other words, something not from a ".com"

Preferably something from a ".edu" source and peer-reviewed.



But now that you have already decided that Indians have ill-treated their women for ages, whats the point of me giving you a source you think has the sanctity.

And just to help you understand that I did not quote some ulfa JNU professor to make my point, you can read more about the HH Wilson referred to in the previous post here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horace_Hayman_Wilson
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horace_Hayman_Wilson

HH Wilson looks like a very accomplished guy. But he wasn't a trained historian. He was trained as a doctor.
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Tilak garu, can you please post something of an academic nature? In other words, something not from a ".com"

Preferably something from a ".edu" source and peer-reviewed.

And I'm curious as the what specific things we did then that we are not doing now. I'll agree 100% about the increased prevalence of sex in the media and treating women as objects.
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How did we respect women back in the day? By practicing Sati? By treating widows the way we did?




LOL...
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Don_draper:

How did we respect women back in the day? By practicing Sati? By treating widows the way we did?



Tilak:

Herbert Spender, the great apostle of individual freedom, says that the position of women supplied a good test of the civilisation of the people. In Bharat, women have always occupied a position of very high esteem. Professor HH Wilson says, "It may be confidently asserted that in no nation of antiquity were women held in so much esteem as amongst Hindus." (Mill's History of Bharat, Vol. II)

God in Hinduism is Ardha Nareeswara in form and gender-free when formless.

Women enjoyed not only equal opportunities and privileges with men in the classical Hindu literature; they even enjoyed rights that were not available for their counterparts.



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How did we respect women back in the day? By practicing Sati? By treating widows the way we did?
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rapes or crimes...not happen based on city / town /village bongu boshanam...psycho nako ekkadanna untaru irrespective of background...

"# of crimes / population" is right standard...obvious ga cities population ekkuva kabatti crimes ekkuva undochu...that doesn't mean western, urban bongu boshanam....

villages lo population thakkuva, plus jarigevi anni chala varaku PS varaku vellavu...
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same news lo india today vadu churakalu esadu....

Fact is, police records and women's rights groups have enough statistics to suggest that rapes in rural areas largely go unreported.

Lacking any evidence to back his claim or perspective, Bhagwat was quoted as saying..blah blah
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Islamic fundamentalists



Fundamentalist anedi extremism ki unna aliases lo okati.
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Read his full speech before coming to conclusions....media lo out of context couple of lines sadivi decide seytakundri...
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edo okati seyataniki nuvvemanna figure va???





I don't like to waste time making a point on someone that isn't going to understand the point in the first place.

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Herbert Spender, the great apostle of individual freedom, says that the position of women supplied a good test of the civilisation of the people. In Bharat, women have always occupied a position of very high esteem. Professor HH Wilson says, "It may be confidently asserted that in no nation of antiquity were women held in so much esteem as amongst Hindus." (Mill's History of Bharat, Vol. II)

God in Hinduism is Ardha Nareeswara in form and gender-free when formless.

Women enjoyed not only equal opportunities and privileges with men in the classical Hindu literature; they even enjoyed rights that were not available for their counterparts.

Manu Smriti, the greatest work on Hindu social codes, declares:

âYatra Naryastu Pujyante Ramante Tatra Devatahâ
(Where women are worshipped there the angels tread)

This great law-giver of Hinduism defined the status of a wife and her equal rights thus:

» If a wife dies, her husband may marry another wife. (Manu, Chapter V, Verse 168). If a husband dies, a wife may marry another husband. (Manu, quoted by Madhava and Vidyanatha Dikshita; Parasara; Narada; Yagnavalkya; Agni Purana)
» If a wife becomes fallen by drunkenness or immorality her husband may marry another. (Manu, Chapter IX, Verse 80). If a husband becomes fallen, a wife may re-marry another husband. (Manu, quoted by Madhava and several other scholars)
» In particular circumstances, a wife may cease to cohabit with her husband. (Manu, Chapter IX, Verse 79)
» If a husband deserts his wife, she may marry another. (Manu, Chapter IX, Verse 76 and several others)



http://www.niticentral.com/2013/01/social-equality-at-core-o f-hindu-philosophy.html

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yedo okati seseyyandi



edo okati seyataniki nuvvemanna figure va???
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Few tweets from one of the best guys on twitter - @albatrossinfo


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All one has to do is simply shout "all men are rapists" India is a nation of women haters & continue on a guilt trip to castration land 1/n

Any alternate suggestion of a lifestyle change from blind-westernism to time-tested Indian ethos is regressive, for India is rapisthan 2/n

A nation of knee-jerkers will never find systemic solutions to problems & will only entertain temporary outrage as momentary nirvana 3/n

Today lets outrage against Sarsanghchalak for he has dared to suggest an alternate path instead of castration/public hanging/men-hating 4/n

In any case RSS is an easy target for its perceived gender insensitivity, so lets paint Mohan ji Bhagwat as Rapisthan's shehanshah 5/n

Plus there is the added bonus of a balancing act, RSS insensitivity towards RapeVictims can be a good counter against Owaisi hate speech 6/n

Reflect on what Bhagwatji has said, instead of outraging, there is a great wisdom hidden in that about unbridled urbanizing of India 7/7



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I will agree with his comments.. Westernization showing a woman is a sex object/commidity that will be easily available for a price tag. we are losing our values,culture and traditions in the name of westernisation.. ee vishyam lo manam Europe ni adarsham theesukovaali..they still follow their old viking or wtver philosphies that existed 1000 AD. but manaki licking ki addict ayyam..iet it g on..
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rural places lo ne kadha honor killings avi ivi...


happen in London.. aa US lone kada evaro indian professor(?) koduku nalla aamai ni chesukunnadani murder cheyinchadu..

ee vishayam lo rural ledu urban ledu.. ippatiki illallo/relatives lo evarnaina love chesam ani chepte parama paapishti pani chesinatlu treat chestaru.. overall, desam lo unna mindset alantidi
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Tilak:

if keeping quiet is not an option? then what will you do? jump up and down and wear a boxing glove?? just for an opinion?




np i voice my opinion too...

Tilak:

Owaisi laaga harm chese statements isthe outrage ardam untundi .. specially liberal people should have liberal attitudes, isnt it? freedom of speech ni liberals ee violate chesthe .. inka ardam emundi?



idemi liberalism o naaku teldhu
nenu pakkonodu matladakoodadhu ani eppudu seppaledhu...vaadu sppina daniki gangireddu la talakaya oopanu ante...what i feel is most statements not this one by RSS are trying to pass the blame of sexual crime on women...be it a dress code, roaming around with other men ....such preventive measures never solve any problem
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i took it at the face value, anduke badha.


if u take at face value how can you correlate what someone else quoted (Mobiles vadaddu, convent ki velladdu) with what Bhagawat said and paint everyone with same color.


Filmbuff:

What is the difference in intellectual thought between Bhagwat and some Khap panchayat or a Deoband mullah who make all these comments. Ani oke kova ki chendinavi...




logic missing yaar
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if somebodys perspective is wrong then whats so bad in being outraged...



well .. opinions ki, "wrong perspectives" ki outrage enduku? Owaisi laaga harm chese statements isthe outrage ardam untundi .. specially liberal people should have liberal attitudes, isnt it? freedom of speech ni liberals ee violate chesthe .. inka ardam emundi?
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u cant keep mum on such talk where people are trying to pass the blame on issues they dont like or keep harping about glorious old days and values


if keeping quiet is not an option? then what will you do? jump up and down and wear a boxing glove?? just for an opinion?
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i give up .. happy beating ..




i too give up...inka sleep eyyali
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Tilak:

i dont understand your outrage to a person's perspective ..




if somebodys perspective is wrong then whats so bad in being outraged...u cant keep mum on such talk where people are trying to pass the blame on issues they dont like or keep harping about glorious old days and values
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prathi daaniki blame it on some thing else....


i give up .. happy beating ..
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enduku chinchukuntunnaru....rapes ninna vunnayi,,,ivvala jaruguthunnayi....repu jaruguthayi...madhya lo edava social media mass hysteria aapandi
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I have never seen an uneducated person committing suicide. I have researched this even while I was police commissioner in Pune. There were




mari vidharba lo farmers anta IIT, engineering grads aa ...enduku suicide cheskunnaru...vallaki family ni care teesukovali ani morals, ethics leva...10th class exams ayyaka entho mandi pillalu suicide cheskuntaru telugu medium rural places vallu chesukora
prathi daaniki blame it on some thing else....

Tilak:

ledu chepparu .. but why are the crimes happening? atleast agree that our education isnt giving us values!!!



nuvvu cheppu ye education will give values
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annai gatham eppudu ghana charithra anukunta vuntamu...pustakalu lo rasukovatame kaani manam ee siddhantam ni follow ayyindhi takkuva...


thats ur perspective .. nothing wrong .. i dont object to it .. bcoz it doesnt harm anyone ..

like wise .. i dont understand your outrage to a person's perspective .. and least of all i expect is .. crazy innuendo to opinions from "liberal people"
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yem mana urban culture lo udayam legichi amma nanna abbayilanu BABU velli eve teasing seyyi, gang rape and distrbution of MMS cheyyi ani chepthara...lekapothe intlo bhojanam undadhu ani warning aa...


ledu chepparu .. but why are the crimes happening? atleast agree that our education isnt giving us values!!!


quote:

English education triggers suicides, murders: Mumbai top cop

Mumbai Police Commissioner Satyapal Singh had earlier said that there was a direct link between school and college education and murders and suicides, and students who study in English-medium institutions are especially vulnerable.

âIn Mumbai, if there are 150 murders, there are eight times (more) suicides. All of the perpetrators are educated people. I have never seen an uneducated person committing suicide. I have researched this even while I was police commissioner in Pune. There were engineers and IT professionals committing suicide,â Singh had said.

âMost suicides,â Singh had reportedly said, âare committed by those who have studied in the English medium. I have never heard of or seen a Sanskrit-medium educated person committing suicide. And it is a known fact that more and more people are today sending their children to English-medium schoolsâ.

Singh had blamed crime in cities like Mumbai and Delhi on flaws in the education system.

âJo Delhi ka case hua ya phir Mumbai ke andar jo case hote hain, uske peechhe bhi jo... isko main sanskriti nahin kehta, usko main asanskriti bolta hoon... woh asanskriti ka parinaam hai... Hamare schools aur college ke andar jo shiksha di jaati hai... sanskaarheen shiksha di jaati hai. Jeevangun koi sikhaata nahin hai. (What has happened in Delhi or what happens in Mumbai, it is the consequence of the absence of culture. The education that is imparted in our schools and colleges is devoid of cultural content. Life values are not taught.)â



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akkada only jhats vishayam lone khap panchayats involve avutaayi. vere communities ni vaallu touch cheyyaru




evari panchayatlu vallaki unnayi....medieval type thinking tho batukuthunnaru...ilanti vallaki mullahs, wahabi gallaki theda lekunda pothundhi ani bhayam...
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Today is definitely better than yesterday
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we used to respect women and we are not these days .. and hence the crimes ante .. "insane things" aa .. hmm




annai gatham eppudu ghana charithra anukunta vuntamu...pustakalu lo rasukovatame kaani manam ee siddhantam ni follow ayyindhi takkuva...rural places lo ne kadha honor killings avi ivi...kottha lokam srustisthunnau kadha antha kalisi...unna problem ki solutions enti ante burkhas esukovali, 5 ki intiki vacchesi TV serial choodali, ekkuva mandi unna bus ekkodhu, saudi type lo male escort untene bayataku vellali...gattiga policelu nalugu tagilisthe bus stand lo eve teasing cheyytaniki bayapade desam mandhi...law and order maintain cheyyandi ante moral and cultural history lesson enduku...yem mana urban culture lo udayam legichi amma nanna abbayilanu BABU velli eve teasing seyyi, gang rape and distrbution of MMS cheyyi ani chepthara...lekapothe intlo bhojanam undadhu ani warning aa...ante mana intlo valu moral values vadilesara ee RSS statement prakaram..
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Sudarshan kadhu Bhagwat...



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trouble comprehending the mindset of these fellows..


when you dont have respect .. you cant comprehend anyways .. no point wasting time and energy over it ..
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are these your imperatives? Why cant you take what Sudarshan quoted at its face value?


because without hyperbole and conjecture .. his idea may not sell ..
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Sudarshan quoted at its face value?




Sudarshan kadhu Bhagwat...

i took it at the face value, anduke badha. If i knew how to read between the lines, i would not have had trouble comprehending the mindset of these fellows..
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What is the difference in intellectual thought between Bhagwat and some Khap panchayat or a Deoband mullah who make all these comments. Ani oke kova ki chendinavi...mobiles vadaddhu, convents ki velladhu..


retrograde attitudes .. insane things .. equating Bhagwat with an uneducated Mullah ..

there is no end to judgmentalism and feeling progressive .. i guess ..
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.mobiles vadaddhu, convents ki velladhu..


are these your imperatives? Why cant you take what Sudarshan quoted at its face value?
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akkada justice ante chettu kinda chutta taage khap panchayat lu...caste, dabbu based ga justice untadhi...


akkada only jhats vishayam lone khap panchayats involve avutaayi. vere communities ni vaallu touch cheyyaru
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What is the difference in intellectual thought between Bhagwat and some Khap panchayat or a Deoband mullah who make all these comments. Ani oke kova ki chendinavi...mobiles vadaddhu, convents ki velladhu..
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andaru langa vonilu, goonghatlu vesukovala...intlo koochovala..udyogam, education, etc lekunda...



ancient India lo andaru oke laaga undevaara? was there no diversity? no other dress than langa vonilu, goonghatlu??

Ipc302:

its sad that everybody is using this case to mouth insane things and toot their hoorn...sad that RSS chief has said that....


we used to respect women and we are not these days .. and hence the crimes ante .. "insane things" aa .. hmm
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Rural india lo pedha vallaki jarige anyayam ki anthu ledhu...akkada caste, dabbu dhe domination...before this delhi incident most sexual crimes reported where in rural places especially haryana lo...akkada justice ante chettu kinda chutta taage khap panchayat lu...caste, dabbu based ga justice untadhi...
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mare.. manam progressive. birthday parties ni manam anukunnatle cheyyali.. Pellillu mana frame of mind lone andaru chesukovali ani cheppi vere vaallani retrogade. comedy of combodia.
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Rural India and Sexual violence.....ENJOY.....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-20003610
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"All that he said is that in Indian tradition we have great respect for women and we should learn to uphold this tradition. If one goes away from this tradition it will result in rise of crime against women," he added.




ilanti utopia nundi bayataku vasthe bestter...looks like everybody wants to be in la la land....blaming urbanization and their idea of westernization for rapes is a big joke....rural india lo inka ekkuva untayi...its just they r not even FIRed in police station...north ki velli oka dabbuna caste meedha complain cheyyamanu evari naina any case u will not even be able to get into police station.....haryana, UP, rajasthan lo unna male chhauvinistic feudal attitudes inka ekkada undavu...accept the reality that so called good bharath or bad-india anywhere rapes are increasing...only reason is lack of proper law and order

its sad that everybody is using this case to mouth insane things and toot their hoorn...sad that RSS chief has said that....
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retrograde


ehe, nuvvu retrograde kaadesa, Metrograde vi

ninnu retrograde annavaallu Bellgrade anukuni tongo eha
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in the context of ancient Indian values





Contextual revisiting enti....andaru langa vonilu, goonghatlu vesukovala...intlo koochovala..udyogam, education, etc lekunda...
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oollaalo, they wont get noticed anthe theda


may be .. but its a matter of perspective ..

Even I think .. rural India is relatively better compared to urban India .. does that make me retrograde?
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Defending Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) chief Mohan Bhagwat's controversial remark that rapes hardly take place in "Bharat", but they occur frequently in "India", RSS spokesperson Ram Madhav on Friday said "we have great respect for women."

"The statement of RSS chief should be taken in proper perspective. He (Bhagwat) has already demanded strict punishment for rapists and even called for death penalty if required," Madhav said.

"All that he said is that in Indian tradition we have great respect for women and we should learn to uphold this tradition. If one goes away from this tradition it will result in rise of crime against women," he added.

Addressing a citizens' meet here on Tuesday during his four-day visit to Silchar, Bhagwat criticized "western" lifestyle of people in urban areas and said, without empirical evidence to back such a claim, that rape is prevalent mainly in cities where Indians are deeply influenced by western values and not by rural India.

"You go to villages and forests of the country and there will be no such incidents of gangrape or sex crimes. They are prevalent in some urban belts. Besides new legislations, Indian ethos and attitude towards women should be revisited in the context of ancient Indian values," he added.

However, Bhagwat said he wanted stringent laws in sexual crimes against women and will favour capital punishment for those convicted of rape.



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WOW.... google lo BSF jawan...rape ani kodithe.....

http://news.webindia123.com/news/articles/india/20120807/203 9607.html

mana rural India - RAPEula India gaa veligipothundhi.....
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Tilak:

You go to villages and forests of the country and there will be no such incidents of gangrape or sex crime


kamalai, you dont get to see them in rural places, endukante aadaki policelu ellaru

policelu raogopalrao kinde untaaru, allulu dabbulatho kodataru police lani

sattigaadu, chalapai lu oori meeda padi njoying

gidemanna synma anukunnaava? gada oopukuntu NTODU raaneeki, leka Tannukuntu KRISHNA raaneki???

oollaalo, they wont get noticed anthe theda
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What a timing :-)

http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/trooper-detained-for-rapin g-physically-challenged-woman-313219
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Ilanti retrogade attitudes nunchi bayitapadithe


retrograde enti? opinion cheppadam retrograde aipoyinda ippudu?

he thinks .. in Rural India .. there are less sex crimes .. adi chepthe .. retrograde attitude branding aa? vaammo .. mee laaga think cheyyani andaru retrograde ane branding chese attitude ni emantaaru?
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Ilanti retrogade attitudes nunchi bayitapadithe (both among Hindu and Islamic fundamentalists) that will be the biggest change, more than passing a death penalty or chemical castration.




"You go to villages and forests of the country and there will be no such incidents of gangrape or sex crimes. They are prevalent in some urban belts. Besides new legislations, Indian ethos and attitude towards women should be revisited in the context of ancient Indian values," Bhagwat had told a gathering of RSS workers in Silchar, Assam.
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asalu rapes rural india lo ekkuva jaruguthaayi...

Police constables, BSF / CRPF / Army jawans...Thakurs....Singhs etc etc - vellu rapists...
Rural women are the victims....
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Here is the link.

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/rapes-happen-in-india-not -bharat-rss-chief-mohan-bhagwat-blames-western-culture-for-g angrapes/1/240709.html
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Malli story shuru - about westernisation, education, pant-shirts, lo chaddilu jabbala banianlu etc etc.

Ilanti retrogade attitudes nunchi bayitapadithe (both among Hindu and Islamic fundamentalists) that will be the biggest change, more than passing a death penalty or chemical castration. Respect for women ante intlo koochoni goonghat esuko mantam kaadu.