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Dada:

he and Nehru said that the country should not be controlled completely by the Govt.



babai .. nee political fiction ki supporting ga .. okka link aina padeyyi .. I will also give you links of Nehru's opinion and actions on "control" ..

Dada:

We need to study these from History books - not from political cadre.


nuvvu study chesesina history books nunchi links padeyyi .. nee political fiction enduku .. we know what your opinions have been .. and how strangely they coincide with congress agenda each time ..
India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda

Amra Morbo, Jagat Jagbe (We shall die to awaken the nation) - Bagha Jatin
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Infact after nehru died, the Congress president Kamaraj asked Indira gandhi to be the PM. She refused and the mantle fell on Shasthri as he was considered the biggest LOYALIST of Nehru and he was a staunch follower of Nehru's socialistic principles - but he did not nationalise the banks which was a demand at that time as both he and Nehru said that the country should not be controlled completely by the Govt.
Later when Indira gandhi became the PM, she nationalised the banks and the biggest gain to the farmers was the availablity of cheap loans from the Cooperative banks and setting up of Agri cooperatives - which also played an important part in the green revolution.
later they were twisted, misused as time went on.....

We need to study these from History books - not from political cadre.
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If at all any single person should be credited with Green revolution (giving credit fora country wide movement which took 10 years to implement to a SINGLE person is a joke) it should be M S SWAMINATHAN
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Lal bahudur Shasthri was one of the most honest Politicians that we saw in this country...And he also is the No.1 admirer of Pandit nehru....Maybe , even Indira Gandhi did not admire Nehru that much as Shastriji did:-)

And policies like 5 year palns, emphasis on Massive engg projects, Green revolution etc were the brain child of the Govts - not an individual.
The good thing was - the individual at the helm of that time -Nehru, Shastri, Sardar, Morarji or kamaraj or anyone else had the larger interest of the nation at heart while taking policy decisions....

And not just politicians - we had eminent civil servants and scientists also who played a key role in the policy decisions....

Were these policy decisions 100% correct - Can never be.
Plus a perfect implementation will never happen.
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intha mandi gurthu chesukunara IG ni??
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Tilak:

Maun Mohan Singh gurinchi cheppu .. is he like that?



furely vopinion ayithe yes anipisthaandhi.. and there is nothing wrong in it.
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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Mental_sachinodu:

ledhu andhariki ana ledhu.. people who are already in or around power. like existing fowerful ffl and kin of ffl with fower. in most cases they would like to be in powerful roles, if they have opportunity ani. ofcourse when i say power, im also talking about financial gains.



sare .. andari gurinchi vaddu le kaani .. Maun Mohan Singh gurinchi cheppu .. is he like that? :D
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Tilak:

janam andariki motives attribute chesaav ga .. that all the people want to be the most powerful!!! didnt expect such wild swings from you




ledhu andhariki ana ledhu.. people who are already in or around power. like existing fowerful ffl and kin of ffl with fower. in most cases they would like to be in powerful roles, if they have opportunity ani. ofcourse when i say power, im also talking about financial gains.
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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Mental_sachinodu:

just catering to the extremes


gotcha ..

Mental_sachinodu:

ardham kaaledhu tilakam.


janam andariki motives attribute chesaav ga .. that all the people want to be the most powerful!!! didnt expect such wild swings from you :D

Siloan:

ADMIN responsibilites andesariki


vaammo .. ekkuva mattadutunnana? ban sesi dobbutademo! :D
India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda

Amra Morbo, Jagat Jagbe (We shall die to awaken the nation) - Bagha Jatin
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Siloan:



Gandhiguevara:



the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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Siloan:

satire eshaadu ...ADMIN responsibilites andesariki...IQ


entidhi maa mentalodu ippudu kotha admin aaa
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Mental_sachinodu:

ardham kaaledhu tilakam.




satire eshaadu ...ADMIN responsibilites andesariki...IQ
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Tilak:

utterly silly ..



it as silly as saying all are wise ... just catering to the extremes :D . like saying IG considered all people as idiots :d



Tilak:

Wow ..



ardham kaaledhu tilakam.

Thikka_sankara:

he might be fine with being ruled by the current govt or he might be least bothered and have better things to worry about... eee renditini kooda slavery loki maarchesthe elaa??? slavery ante compulsion (willingly compelled to support kooda avvochu... just like ppl here support star heroes) untundi.... but the above two cases ni discount chesi... vallani kooda slaves mentality lo ki nettesthunnaru ani naa yookkaa edo ad



malli naa post ooo paali sadavandi, nenu slave ani start cheyaledhu.. i said people at the top, chance unnantha varaku powerful ga undaali ani korukuntaaru ani. its the people who need to be wise here.. a paina unna vallani ani labham ledhu ani.

ippud jagan kurrod unaad, he cheated, but he will try his best to be in power(im not going into the morality of these people), kaani jagan lati vallani support chese janaladhi thappu antaanu. ofcourse its my view, if the majority still want Jagan, i have no complains, he should be the leader. but my opinion stays.

samaaptham..!! :d
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Mental_sachinodu:

the fact is most people ARE idiots, no two ways about that.


utterly silly ..

Mental_sachinodu:

prathi okkadiki sance dhoriki the most powerful person avudhamane untadhi!!


Wow ..
India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda

Amra Morbo, Jagat Jagbe (We shall die to awaken the nation) - Bagha Jatin
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Mental_sachinodu:


I second ur post...
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Mental_sachinodu:

kaani kindha vunna vaadu accept seyyatam guarantee ga thappu, he has a choce to make there.




he might be fine with being ruled by the current govt or he might be least bothered and have better things to worry about... eee renditini kooda slavery loki maarchesthe elaa??? slavery ante compulsion (willingly compelled to support kooda avvochu... just like ppl here support star heroes) untundi.... but the above two cases ni discount chesi... vallani kooda slaves mentality lo ki nettesthunnaru ani naa yookkaa edo adi
Naakonchem thikkundi.... daaaniko lekkundi
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Zulu:

'Free Market' sinthakai kaburlu cheppe janalu 'Free will' daggariki vochetappatiki appam..appam.




'Free Market' needs to be protected :d ani arguments kooda inna.
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Thikka_sankara:

oodigam chese vallaki chance vethukunne veeeledi timedi chance edi??? they would be pretty happy being middle men ..... edagaali anukune vaadu oodigam cheyyadu

ainaa either oodigam or most powerful ivi rende janaala opinion ani elaa cheppagalaru??




mee ragging naak sareega ardham kavatledhu meshaaru...

hippud three level unnai anukundham

king - ee level lo unnod will try to keep his kin at this level, and he has good opportunities to do that.
middle men - ee level lo unnod minimum ee level maintain seyyaneeki try sesthaad. sance unte paiki elle schemes kooda eyyochu
slave - ee level lo unnod might be happy to be here, are try to move up

now this scenario is not in democracy, in general hierarchical style of society lo unde setting. in democracy people can choose to be in any one of these, ofcourse with due talent. nenu paine unta anukune vaadi thappu kadhu, anukovatam correct ee.. kaani kindha vunna vaadu accept seyyatam guarantee ga thappu, he has a choce to make there.
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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Mental_sachinodu:


meshaaru, chance unte annaan kadha.. when there is ripe opportunity who will give it up?



oodigam chese vallaki chance vethukunne veeeledi timedi chance edi??? they would be pretty happy being middle men ..... edagaali anukune vaadu oodigam cheyyadu

ainaa either oodigam or most powerful ivi rende janaala opinion ani elaa cheppagalaru??
Naakonchem thikkundi.... daaaniko lekkundi
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Mental_sachinodu:

free thinkers wont accept it, or cant accept that people might actually like being controlled. they say its bad, but they cant agree that people have the choice to take bad decisions. somehow it is a scheming done by few people.




'Free Market' sinthakai kaburlu cheppe janalu 'Free will' daggariki vochetappatiki appam..appam.
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Zulu:

whether people want to be controlled or not is the Big Question..
When people know a certain Leader/form of govt is controlling and they still vote for it, it means they want to be controlled.




free thinkers wont accept it, or cant accept that people might actually like being controlled. they say its bad, but they cant agree that people have the choice to take bad decisions. somehow it is a scheming done by few people.
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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Thikka_sankara:

prathi okkallaki most powerful person avvalane unte.




meshaaru, chance unte annaan kadha.. when there is ripe opportunity who will give it up?
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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the fact is most people ARE idiots, no two ways about that. whether to control them or not is a entirely different thing.




whether people want to be controlled or not is the Big Question..
When people know a certain Leader/form of govt is controlling and they still vote for it, it means they want to be controlled.
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Mental_sachinodu:

okallu dynasty politics rudhatam endhi.. its the people. no use blaming politicians in this aspect. prathi okkadiki sance dhoriki the most powerful person avudhamane untadhi!!



contradicting statments.... prathi okkallaki most powerful person avvalane unte... evvadu dynasties ki ghulam girilu cheyyaru
Naakonchem thikkundi.... daaaniko lekkundi
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Jujung:

Indira is just another pompous politician who thinks people are idiots and they need to be controlled




the fact is most people ARE idiots, no two ways about that. whether to control them or not is a entirely different thing.
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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okallu dynasty politics rudhatam endhi.. its the people. no use blaming politicians in this aspect. prathi okkadiki sance dhoriki the most powerful person avudhamane untadhi!!
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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desh ki neta zindabad :-)
Pawan || YSR|| Indira|| Adi-shankaracharya ||Cleopatra
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Indira gandhi ki vision lopinchadame prastuta desam paristitiki karanam

vote bank politics next level ki teeskellindi
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Getafix:

meeru indirect ga nehru ni mosthunnate anukunta


meeru anukunte naakem problem ledu .. kaani fact adi kaadu ..

LBS's policy of agriculture is very different from that of Nehru .. adi matrame naa point ..
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Getafix:

LBS was Nehruvian socialist adi fact.. anyways LBS ni meeru accept jesthe nehru fan ga naaketuvanti froblem ledu endukante LBS ni mosthu - meeru indirect ga nehru ni mosthunnate anukunta







LBS ki nehru ki Jameen and asman antha difference vundhi anukuntuna.......he never went with any ideological dogmas..... i think for him what benefits india in a given situation was the criteria....if you consider LBS as anfollower of nehru then you may have to say the same about RSS swadeshi or gandhi.....LBS is more close to gandhi....BTW nehru was never a friend of middle india and farmers
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.if at all any credit during indira tenure it should go to Babu jagjivan Ram who was considered a very efficient minister




yes yes ..and to all the agriculture scientists and agril ext officers involved as well.
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Tilak:

LBS recognized the flaws in Nehru's model of governance and started corrections as PM in 1965




Ali laughing icon.. LBS PM ayyinde Nehru ki duplicate in policy making lo ani.. aa time morarji made a strong push but INC lo jinthatha chesi LBS ni set chesaru.

LBS was Nehruvian socialist adi fact.. anyways LBS ni meeru accept jesthe nehru fan ga naaketuvanti froblem ledu endukante LBS ni mosthu - meeru indirect ga nehru ni mosthunnate anukunta
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andhralo naranarana nooraru indira gandhi gurinchi
1976 lo kovvuru lo municipal school lo appudu second grade anukunta indiara gandhi 11 years ani pandagalu chesaru
adi kuda primary school lo pillalaki sabha ..
cut cheste next year she lost
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Getafix:

I cant place policy by policy on LBS and IG - but the point is she had played major role as well.






by the time IG took over as PM already ground work was laid.... Indira got absolute control over party only in last quarter of 60's.......first hybrid varieties introduced in 1963....if at all any credit during indira tenure it should go to Babu jagjivan Ram who was considered a very efficient minister
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Majority of the policies were stated in 60s annai and IG was PM in 60s too..I cant place policy by policy on LBS and IG - but the point is she had played major role as well.


LBS recognized the flaws in Nehru's model of governance and started corrections as PM in 1965 .. Indira after becoming PM, openly said we will be socialist again, but understood the flaw and silently continued the vision of LBS with respect to Green revolution .. thats my understanding ..
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both green and white revolutions were initiated and promoted by L.B. shastri.....remember Jai Jawan Jai kisan.......even your article mentions steps from early 60's, Indira was not PM then...also he won a war against pakistan in 1965 after nehru china disaster in 1962, he was not the one who overlooked defence




Majority of the policies were stated in 60s annai and IG was PM in 60s too..I cant place policy by policy on LBS and IG - but the point is she had played major role as well.
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but he made sure that no one else can have power ante etla?



Plz check how Indira was elected as president of Congress party in 1958 itself .. And Nehru was hale and healthy at that time .. and made most of those political moves himself ..
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Not sure if Nehru wanted dynastic politics but IG definitely made sure that no one else can have power other than her own family.. idi no denying.




ide point nenu kooda telling...
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he too made sure no one else can have power




he encouraged her into politics - agree.. but he made sure that no one else can have power ante etla? if that was the case then IG would have become defacto PM after Nehru's death ala Rajiv gandhi..

Not sure if Nehru wanted dynastic politics but IG definitely made sure that no one else can have power other than her own family.. idi no denying.
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Tilak:

he too encouraged indira to come into politics .. he too made sure no one else can have power




idi nen oppukonta..
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but he had opposition too ani septhunna...compared to Amma..



tough to judge .. he too crushed opposition .. he too encouraged indira to come into politics .. he too made sure no one else can have power .. he too knew there were corrupt in his govt ..
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you will be surprised!




levu ani nenu ekkada septhunna..but he had opposition too ani septhunna...compared to Amma..
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valla fatheri time lo Bhajan gangs undevi kaadu..



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Killing democracy and freedom in a country is not an imperfection. Its a crime




Breeding Sycophancy and Bhajan culture was the biggest blunder that she did...

valla fatheri time lo Bhajan gangs undevi kaadu..he had good opposition...Indira goru ..killed all that...
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Getafix:

some of IG's contributions to agriculture.







both green and white revolutions were initiated and promoted by L.B. shastri.....remember Jai Jawan Jai kisan.......even your article mentions steps from early 60's, Indira was not PM then...also he won a war against pakistan in 1965 after nehru china disaster in 1962, he was not the one who overlooked defence
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Green revolution : Special agricultural innovation programs and extra government support launched in the 1960s finally transformed India's chronic food shortages into surplus production of wheat, rice, cotton and milk, the success mainly attributed to the hard working majority Sikh farmers of Punjab. Rather than relying on food aid from the United States – headed by a President Gandhi disliked considerably (the feeling was mutual: to Nixon, Gandhi was "the old witch"),[8] the country became a food exporter. That achievement, along with the diversification of its commercial crop production, has become known as the "Green Revolution". At the same time, the White Revolution was an expansion in milk production which helped to combat malnutrition, especially amidst young children. 'Food Security', as the program was called, was another source of support for Gandhi in the years leading up to 1975

Established in the early 1960s, the Green Revolution was the unofficial name given to the Intense Agricultural District Program (IADP) which sought to insure abundant, inexpensive grain for urban dwellers upon whose support Gandhi—as indeed all Indian politicians—heavily depended.[citation needed] The program was based on four premises: 1) New varieties of seed(s), 2) Acceptance of the necessity of the chemicalization of Indian agriculture, i.e. fertilizers, pesticides, weed killers, etc., 3) A commitment to national and international cooperative research to develop new and improved existing seed varieties, and 4) The concept of developing a scientific, agricultural institutions in the form of land grant colleges.[10]




some of IG's contributions to agriculture.
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oh chudaledhu,chustha.i wish to see films on important events like emergency,indira assassination etc.ofcourse politics,censor& shit dont allow them to comeout as it is,chuss.




sorry aa details undav.. IG married life meeda cinema adi.. not political.
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Getafix:

you blame it on socialism and communism and yet you bring up china in comparison.

IG contribution to Indian agriculture is undeniable.. She made the country self sufficient in important cereals.

Its natural to second think that things could have been different but given the conditions at that time - some policies were to be made. And regards to free market capitalism - we werent ready then and we arent ready now.




1. China liberalized in late 70s and the difference is clearly visible now. So, while communist China realized the foolishness of Mao and the necessity of economic liberalization, Indira was busy pushing the country back a few decades with her policies. Probably realizing her policies as being responsible for keeping millions of people in poverty and thereby causing hundreds of thousands of starvation deaths would make us realize the gravity of her mistakes.

2. On Norman Borlaug and green revolution in India - http://www.city-journal.org/2009/eon0914gs.html

3. There is nothing to second think about economic freedom - your argument about the country not being ready for economic freedom is the same argument of the colonials that the country is not ready for political freedom. Even China realized at that time - so it's not as if it's some alien idea. Indira is just another pompous politician who thinks people are idiots and they need to be controlled, and be told what they can/cannot make or buy. Comes naturally to dynastic successors.
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Gulzar's Aandhi is based on IG mesharuu


oh chudaledhu,chustha.i wish to see films on important events like emergency,indira assassination etc.ofcourse politics,censor& shit dont allow them to comeout as it is,chuss.
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Gulzar's Aandhi is based on IG mesharuu


and it was banned? also Gulzar said it is not IG's story to get it released .. check Aandhi wiki ..
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she is a good movie material.i dont understand why bollywood never attempt to make compelling films on such influential people.



Gulzar's Aandhi is based on IG mesharuu
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i dont understand why bollywood never dare toattempt to make compelling films on such influential people.




idi apt statement!
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she is a good movie material.i dont understand why bollywood never attempt to make compelling films on such influential people.
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appatlo indira ante adho idhi annatlu. tharuvatha ysr. madhyalo after ysr nobody.



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you blame it on socialism and communism and yet you bring up china in comparison.

IG contribution to Indian agriculture is undeniable.. She made the country self sufficient in important cereals.

Its natural to second think that things could have been different but given the conditions at that time - some policies were to be made. And regards to free market capitalism - we werent ready then and we arent ready now.
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Indira did great in terms of the war and dealing with terrorism


Who is Bindranwale? What was Indira's stand towards LTTE?
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LBS chesindi enti? naku telidhu honest ga.. list ento ettu telsukunta.



He is the one who gave importance to agriculture .. even Green Revolution started in his era ..
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can you elaborate?......indira destroyed indian entrepreneur spirit with land ceilings, bank nationalization, destroyed institutions with politics at every level


to some extent its true
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Indira did great in terms of the war and dealing with terrorism. But I will be accurate to say that Indira is more responsible than any other Indian prime minister for Indian poverty, with her economic policies and communist tendencies. (note that she's the one who added "socialist" to the constitution preamble during emergency)
First of all it's silly to think agriculture in India is great. The so called "green revolution" is not a gift of Indira. check Norman Borlaug.
Anyone who thinks bank nationalization is great is either ill-informed or just plain lazy to look at the facts.
Most south-east asian countries and even China are poorer than India 50 years but much richer now, thanks to Nehru and then Indira. Atleast, Nehru has many other redeeming qualities. Indira is directly responsible for the present slavish culture in the INC and almost all regional political parties.
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Tilak:

miscredited .. it was Lal Bahadur Shastri's contribution in 1965 itself ..




LBS chesindi enti? naku telidhu honest ga.. list ento ettu telsukunta. But I know one thing - LBS was weakest PM when it came to national security.. oka famous story undhi LBS gurinchi and it is true - mana RAW cracked into Pak's ISI through double agent and gave vital info to LBS.. mana LBS saar varu - he alerted then ayub khan about the leak in his intelligence agency. Imagine if IG was in that place? Pak ni crumble chesi dobbedi..adi fact.

Agree she laid the foundation for dynasty politics and largely responsible for the crap we are seeign now but lets not get carried away with that and ignore what she had done..
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Indian Agriculture.....the credit must go to Nehru




he laid the foundation but IG built on that. She established Research institutes and was largely influential in Indian green revolution. Sad thing endante - over the years we built not much with the momentum gained during IG's agri push.
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She is the reason, India is facing several problems like J&K, SriLanka, Bodos, Naxalism, Bureaucracy, Nepotism & Emergency. No One would like to have her remain the face of India after all these untoward things directly related because of her STUPID,DUMB actions


yeah, she is also the reason for the 96 wc cup loss, latur earthquake, fall of constantinople and whatnot?
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Indian Agriculture ivala ee shape lo undhi ante IG vallane. Agri research ni priority chesi atleast oka path establish chesindhi. Lekapothe pakistan laga - sarvam china nunchi techukovalsochedi and china sankal naake cheprasi bathuku ayyedi..




can you elaborate?......indira destroyed indian entrepreneur spirit with land ceilings, bank nationalization, destroyed institutions with politics at every level
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Indian Agriculture.....the credit must go to Nehru
He was responsible for so many irrigation projects and dams (His panchavarsha pranaalika)
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Getafix:


Indian Agriculture ivala ee shape lo undhi ante IG vallane. Agri research ni priority chesi atleast oka path establish chesindhi.


miscredited .. it was Lal Bahadur Shastri's contribution in 1965 itself ..

Getafix:

national security..She was tough


explain Bindranwale's life and growth .. even if you ignore minority appeasement!
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Indian Agriculture ivala ee shape lo undhi ante IG vallane. Agri research ni priority chesi atleast oka path establish chesindhi. Lekapothe pakistan laga - sarvam china nunchi techukovalsochedi and china sankal naake cheprasi bathuku ayyedi..

Another major achievement of IG was - national security..She was tough and had she not - manaki mujahdeen camps migilevi ivalti roju.. Nee hatred lo nuvvu kottukapothe kottuka po but dont spew crap in the name of facts..
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Wave 1 - growth happenned post Independance from the late 50s to mid 70s....and then stagnated in the 80s..

Wave2 - growth happened from mid 90s

Differecne between the two
Wave 1 was induced by the Govt and the growth was in Agriculture & Infrastructure...
Wave was induced by Pvt Sector and the growth was predominantly in Services

Sad thing about Wave2: Govt revenues in states like Maharashtra, AP, Karnataka, TN increased enormously - and yet there was no investment in building public Infrastructure
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More then the 1971/2 war, Operation Bluestar is a greater success. Punjab - at that time the most prosperous state wanted to become a separate country - they printed their own passports, own currency....and it requires guts to order the Army into the holiest shrine of a religion and throw out the terrorists.

Apart from the wars - bank nationalization was a bigger achivement as the country needed it in the late 60s.

Of course the same Indira Gandhi (after 1978) was scared of other "emerging leaders" and only wanted loyalty and anyone questioning her was seen with suspicion. She only allowed unflinching loyalists like PVN, VR,Pranab etc to be around her.
And she started the trend of dynasty politics
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India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda

Amra Morbo, Jagat Jagbe (We shall die to awaken the nation) - Bagha Jatin
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i have seen so many Black Girls who were named as Indira in states like Indiana, Michigan, NJ, VA

One of my Boss in VA was Indira C..l..i..n..t..o..n & when i asked her who named her, she said it was her mother who named her after knowing that she was daughter of nehru. I chose to remain silent & didn't want to talk ill about Indira with her.

Nevertheless, Indira is a common Black name & for that matter even India is a first name in some black folks i came across
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middle east and africa kooda , lol


bab gaaru meeru serious gaa vundali anukuntunnara? I dont think so...
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Buggaler:

J&K, SriLanka,


emitoo koddiga septhava?


Buggaler:

Bodos, Naxalism,


idi kooda?

already vunna isues ni solve seyyaledu ani matram seppaku plz...
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Indira, in one word was face of India when she was in Power,it's hard for me to accept & agree about it, but would like to agree to disagree on this.

She is the reason, India is facing several problems like J&K, SriLanka, Bodos, Naxalism, Bureaucracy, Nepotism & Emergency. No One would like to have her remain the face of India after all these untoward things directly related because of her STUPID,DUMB actions

On a personal level, she got her own son killed & got killed by Bindranwale who was a black ticket seller/peddler.

At the end of the day, she is not worth bullshit over a Paise coin
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mana gorrelaki democracy endukU?



LOL
middle east and africa kooda , lol
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Killing democracy and freedom in a country is not an imperfection. Its a crime. Of course the intensity of the crime is subjective.




mana gorrelaki democracy endukU?
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nenu aame 100% perfect ani seppaledu...ame sesina panullo manchivi konni vunnayi ani seppa.... like any other leader she made some mistakes...do u think MG gandhi is 100% perfect?




Killing democracy and freedom in a country is not an imperfection. Its a crime. Of course the intensity of the crime is subjective.
What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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for whatever reasons..we were against globalisation until PVNR became PM....obviously population growth saripada jobs mana govt eppatiki create cheyyaledu..appatiki ippatiki difference emiti ante ...globalisation valla chala jobs..economy growth vachindi....




India after independence had a choice to go Capitalism, Communism and socialism.

Nehru thought having been in slavery for so long and certain sections being in suppression for so long, India was not ready for capitalism and he wanted to start with Socialism.
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For me Indira, NTR, YSR..

Indira maathram arachakam..
YSR AMAR RAHE
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How is Telengana suppression something to rejoice about?




Sure, its nothing to rejoice about. At least she she has guts to do something about it unlike these days leaders.
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adi mana blood lone vundi..adi mana janma hakku..




yes I am telling that
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From what I read, Indian economy only grew in 90's. After PVNR came to power. Of course, worldwide so much growth and so many changes happened, but the business policies and growth came after decisions taken in 90s. Look at the situation of 70s and 80s youth unemployment and education problem.




for whatever reasons..we were against globalisation until PVNR became PM....obviously population growth saripada jobs mana govt eppatiki create cheyyaledu..appatiki ippatiki difference emiti ante ...globalisation valla chala jobs..economy growth vachindi....

but country baagu pade range lo infra/irrigation/ policies anni golden old times lo jarigayi....1992 tarvatha revenues pergina jananiki use ayye laa ee govt karchu pettatam ledu...
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Ade brave and bold ani emergency pettindi.

Cong lo ee roju choostunna gandhi family slavery Indira thone modalu ayyindi.

Ofcourse today is not the time to discuss these things.




nenu aame 100% perfect ani seppaledu...ame sesina panullo manchivi konni vunnayi ani seppa.... like any other leader she made some mistakes...do u think MG gandhi is 100% perfect?

slavary aametho modalavvatam endi? comedy naa? adi mana blood lone vundi..adi mana janma hakku.....
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remember chesukovalsina avasaram kanpadala..
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From what I read, Indian economy only grew in 90's. After PVNR came to power. Of course, worldwide so much growth and so many changes happened, but the business policies and growth came after decisions taken in 90s. Look at the situation of 70s and 80s youth unemployment and education problem.
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brave n bold...we need leaders like her....ippudu seppukunne BJP or congress or any other party ..intha gutsy gaa chesara?




Ade brave and bold ani emergency pettindi.

Cong lo ee roju choostunna gandhi family slavery Indira thone modalu ayyindi.

Ofcourse today is not the time to discuss these things.
What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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How is Telengana suppression something to rejoice about? Poor people have been getting one of the worst treatment in South India for decades.

There is too much enmity here.


vallaki common idi
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ivaala ye ye channels, entha sepu choosavu? leda CNN, Fox lo sound ledu ani cheptunnava?




yemannai. nuvvu chusinantha sepu anni media llo indira ne chupinchara?????????? nuvvu nenu different planets midha chusamemole tv.
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How is Telengana suppression something to rejoice about? Poor people have been getting one of the worst treatment in South India for decades.

There is too much enmity here.

Iron lady is good until she doesn't come hit your backyard. That's why people in South are praising her. They didn't live through what the North Indians lived through.
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operation blue star ippdunna leaders lo evadnana seyyagalada?
banks nationalisation
war with pakis
Supressing movements like T

brave n bold...we need leaders like her....ippudu seppukunne BJP or congress or any other party ..intha gutsy gaa chesara?

simla oppandam russia n othe countries pressure valla cheyyalsi vachindi....

edi emi ina patha rojullo 50% chetha vunte 50% too good vunde vallu...ippudu 99.999% chetha and 0.001% just good.....






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edi emi ina patha rojullo 50% chetha vunte 50% too good vunde vallu...ippudu 99.999% chetha and 0.001% just good.....



MEE abimaananni nenu gundello dhachukunta kani thala ki ekkanivanu - Pawan Kalyan
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operation blue star ippdunna leaders lo evadnana seyyagalada?
banks nationalisation
war with pakis
Supressing movements like T

brave n bold...we need leaders like her....ippudu seppukunne BJP or congress or any other party ..intha gutsy gaa chesara?

simla oppandam russia n othe countries pressure valla cheyyalsi vachindi....

edi emi ina patha rojullo 50% chetha vunte 50% too good vunde vallu...ippudu 99.999% chetha and 0.001% just good.....
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Vjavasi:

let's discuss facts......apart from 1971 victory, what is indira's contribution....how much india prospered under her......if indira is so great why India remains so much impoverished to this day......ruthlessness doesn't mean great leadership qualities




Above all one thing she sure did was killing Telangana moment.

Unlike these days political leaders and parties, she did very well.
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Someone as strong...

Indira Gandhi = Jayalalitha?

All the TN Brahmins, also known as Sambars, think so...
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ekkda media lo kuda peddaga sound ledhu indira gurinchi.



ivaala ye ye channels, entha sepu choosavu? leda CNN, Fox lo sound ledu ani cheptunnava?
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Vjavasi:

let's discuss facts......apart from 1971 victory, what is indira's contribution....how much india prospered under her......if indira is so great why India remains so much impoverished to this day......ruthlessness doesn't mean great leadership qualities




bro..ee roju vadileseyyandi....inko roju disco cheyyochhu...
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1971 war lo decisive ga act chesindhi but after the war we did not benefit much due to Shimla pact...very foolish on her part

inka 1975 emergency ayithe desam ni saantham naakinchesindhi...a lot of bad seen today in congress is because of the Indira administration...of course it laid the platform for janata leaders....eti sesaru ellu ani adagakandi, alternate choice issaru ani seppali anthe
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let's discuss facts......apart from 1971 victory, what is indira's contribution....how much india prospered under her......if indira is so great why India remains so much impoverished to this day......ruthlessness doesn't mean great leadership qualities
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inkoncham sepunte ye bussoo tagalabettela unnav

poyi saala yellaindi ga, take it easy







appatlo indira ante adho idhi annatlu. tharuvatha ysr. madhyalo after ysr nobody.
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johar indira


inkoncham sepunte ye bussoo tagalabettela unnav

poyi saala yellaindi ga, take it easy
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Andhrawala:




i havent noticed anywhere though. may be i missed it.
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Indira Gandhi's interview before 71 war.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OdRm7AS9O4

2:23, how firm she was!

another interview!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X_Ex5CCxsk
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Rock:

ekkda media lo kuda peddaga sound ledhu indira gurinchi.




adhenti Sonia and Co Shakthi SThal ki vellivuntaaree

http://www.hindustantimes.com/Punjab/Amritsar/SGPC-pays-homa ge-to-Indira-s-assassin/SP-Article1-952862.aspx
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ukku manishi sardar patel - jayanthi

ukku mahila indira - vardhanthi..

oct 31
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Getafix:

One of my cousin is named after Indira..thats how inspiring she was to families.




my two nieces named after her. my sister loves her.
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johar indira . ekkda media lo kuda peddaga sound ledhu indira gurinchi.
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Jhansi,rudrama - veella gurinchi chadivinde kani IG ni , in flesh and blood ga chusa..perhaps one of the strongest woman india ever saw. One of my cousin is named after Indira..thats how inspiring she was to families.
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Dear PM, we miss you.

When I was a kid, I did not understand how great you were.

After looking at all these other Liliputs that followed you, I realized how great you were.

I hope someday someone as strong as you would born and teach a lesson to people.

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