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Ringo_rangaswamy
Side Hero Username: Ringo_rangaswamy
Post Number: 2118 Registered: 02-2011 Posted From: 69.120.136.97
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2012 - 12:20 pm: |
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Idedo sharukh khan mumbai lo my name is khan cinema release time lo publicity stunt ki chesina overacting laa anipistundi. |
   
Masularex
Side Hero Username: Masularex
Post Number: 2187 Registered: 05-2010 Posted From: 202.133.59.139
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2012 - 12:08 pm: |
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Raman:chuss denemma ee musalarex kurranni sitakabadali .. kasiga nehruni tittukolekapote anti congress kurralla paristiti endi??
naademundi thaatha gaaru! . manadi anamaka jeevitham ikkada! monna mudu rojulu ban chesaaru... nannu! warnings gatra emi levu! communists ki anni encounters yee! warnings undavata! legend babu vacchi unban chesaadu!  |
   
Sri_anji
Hero Username: Sri_anji
Post Number: 11247 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 63.66.34.226
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2012 - 12:08 pm: |
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Gandhi ni abuse cheyoddu ante ok...but why Nehru ya? he is such a cool character http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Zg2K3eIZ0gw/StMKEtOexZI/AAAAAAAAAD E/8evf7sx3tKg/s320/Nehru%2520Chacha.jpg |
   
Tilak
Side Hero Username: Tilak
Post Number: 9585 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 101.63.190.125
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2012 - 11:33 am: |
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Sheriff:please respect our national leaders
request you to publish a list of our national leaders .. we will be informed! India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda Amra Morbo, Jagat Jagbe (We shall die to awaken the nation) - Bagha Jatin |
   
Raman
Hero Username: Raman
Post Number: 12500 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 159.182.1.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2012 - 11:32 am: |
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chuss denemma ee musalarex kurranni sitakabadali .. kasiga nehruni tittukolekapote anti congress kurralla paristiti endi?? |
   
Blackmamba
Moderator Username: Blackmamba
Post Number: 22403 Registered: 05-2010
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2012 - 11:30 am: |
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Sheriff
Moderator Username: Sheriff
Post Number: 132 Registered: 09-2012
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2012 - 11:29 am: |
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final warning to jacksparrow and newguy123 if anyone abuses gandhi or nehru, you will get banned without further warning please respect our national leaders consider this as final warning |
   
Tilak
Side Hero Username: Tilak
Post Number: 9570 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 115.241.51.14
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 05:00 pm: |
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Sardar Patel's daughter who was also an MP - also was testimony to the fact that Nehru-Patel relationship was turbulent .. she came out with a biography of Sardar where she said this .. History cant be distorted forever! India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda Amra Morbo, Jagat Jagbe (We shall die to awaken the nation) - Bagha Jatin |
   
Teluguhero
Comedian Username: Teluguhero
Post Number: 1046 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 24.129.105.123
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 01:52 pm: |
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Dada:should use better judgement and decide whether we want to believe everything that is written about great personalities.....
How Communists distorted Indian History Books :: Indian Communist Media http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fo-u44P0rw |
   
Dada
Comedian Username: Dada
Post Number: 1354 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 122.179.56.115
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 01:48 pm: |
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Pplsuck:
nee pidakala veta continue cheyyi...... KILL THE CADRE ani malli antaanu - CADRE lekapothe - we would have been saved this spectacle of rallies, yatras etc..... alaagani - nijamgaa champedhaama....goood bye to you also - like your other friend.....Cadre.... |
   
Pplsuck
Side Hero Username: Pplsuck
Post Number: 4808 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.228.110.205
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 01:47 pm: |
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Dada:And if you took it literally - All the best
ok...take it easy man.....but then, Nair gaari maatalu kooda vinochchu.......with all respect to Nehru.........anipinchindi naaku....... |
   
Dada
Comedian Username: Dada
Post Number: 1353 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 122.179.56.115
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 01:46 pm: |
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Pplsuck:
For me History is the letters actually written by these two men - They had a lot of respect for each other.....as shown in the letters.....Not what some one else who is using some other evidence to write some thing else. I will believe what a historian like ramachandra guha writes - "a qualified historian plus a lot of other things" |
   
Pplsuck
Side Hero Username: Pplsuck
Post Number: 4807 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.228.110.205
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 01:44 pm: |
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Dada:maa politician goppa - neee polician chettha ani evaru antaaru - The cadre....
achcha....ee post lo supporters ni delete chesaavaa?....lets read the earlier post now.....
Dada: KILL ALL CADRE....KILL THE SUPPORTERS OF ALL POLITICAL PARTIES.
donga....malli dorikipoyaadu....dorikipoyaadu........eyyyy...........iyyaal e achchamaina deepaavali.....eyyellu nichchamaina deepaavali..... LOL....... |
   
Dada
Comedian Username: Dada
Post Number: 1352 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 122.179.56.115
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 01:43 pm: |
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Pplsuck:mari velli aa pani choodu antey........daaniki verey unnaaru........maa group lo ilaa online discussions ki nenu annaavu.........
Was it you who said this - I do not remember - but yes - I sadi KEYBOARD tho champeddam ee cadre ni ani - And if you took it literally - All the best |
   
Pplsuck
Side Hero Username: Pplsuck
Post Number: 4806 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.228.110.205
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 01:41 pm: |
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Dada:Kill them I SAY.....annaaanu ante actual gaa KILL THEM aaa
uthiuthi aatallo arati pandu post aa?.........alaa aithey ok le.....mari velli aa pani choodu antey........daaniki verey unnaaru........maa group lo ilaa online discussions ki nenu annaavu......... all in the name of joke?.........sare lite teesuko aithey..........right wing bashing fashion kadaa ani.......elaa padithey alaa sentences vadalakapothey better emo........history, distortion, fanatic...........I know.....I too love using those words.......but solid argument tho backing untey better....... |
   
Pplsuck
Side Hero Username: Pplsuck
Post Number: 4805 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.228.110.205
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 01:38 pm: |
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Dada:All I did was give a different point of view...that nehru and Sardar had great respect for each other.....
Abaddam.....dongaa.....read this again......is it talking about a different point of view?......
Dada:History should never be distorted......
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Dada
Comedian Username: Dada
Post Number: 1350 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 122.179.56.115
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 01:36 pm: |
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Pplsuck:99.9% people support one or other political party
Is it? then people like me who do not support any party are just 0.1 percent in India???? Are you really sure? Supporters ante - silent supporters kaadhu - maa politician goppa - neee polician chettha ani evaru antaaru - The cadre.... Alaanti vallu lekapothe - manaki ee godavalu undavu ani nenu vesaaanu...... and KILL THEM (cadre) ani saradhaaki Post chesaanu - not in one thrd but in another political thrd also..... |
   
Dada
Comedian Username: Dada
Post Number: 1349 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 122.179.56.115
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 01:33 pm: |
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Pplsuck:99.9% people support one or other political party.........so 99.9% shud be killed antaava?...
Ante nijam gaa gun pattukoni champemannaana.... Please go through that thrd..... followers lenidhe leaders leru ani venkatest song tho untaadhi aa matter - for different situations.....Kill them I SAY.....annaaanu ante actual gaa KILL THEM aaa
Pplsuck:it is ok for you to believe the public statements given out by those leaders.........but others shud be shunned at all costs
Who is shunning what? All I am saying is - we are bombarded by information - Please judge the data before processing it into info. When you see the letters written between Nehru and Patel to each other - they had utmost respect for each other - letters written by themselves - reproduced verbatim - despite differences in their approaches which they acknowledged.... It is upto you to belive what you want to believe and I am never questioning your beliefs. and ee thrd lo I have not criticisized anyone - nor have I posted anything against anyone..... All I did was give a different point of view...that nehru and Sardar had great respect for each other..... it was you started - questioning me - because I am differing from your point of view |
   
Netra
Megastar Username: Netra
Post Number: 22006 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 69.53.237.66
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 01:29 pm: |
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Last_avataar:Its unbelievable that a Home Minister can independently do a military operation with out involving PM and President
kadhaa.. pesident ante appatiki republic of india kaadhu kadha.. oo part lo agreed.. kaani PM telvakundaa ela settaru.. edhamaina Sardar Patel  YSR AMAR RAHE |
   
Pplsuck
Side Hero Username: Pplsuck
Post Number: 4804 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.228.110.205
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 01:28 pm: |
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Dada:nee age theliyadhu kaani..n
Dada: I CAN ONLY PITY YOU
manchi kalaakaarudu unnaadu neelo.......u can pity all u want......now lets get back on topic... |
   
Pplsuck
Side Hero Username: Pplsuck
Post Number: 4803 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.228.110.205
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 01:22 pm: |
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Dada:KILL ALL CADRE....KILL THE SUPPORTERS OF ALL POLITICAL PARTIES...... Kill andi...KILLL I say....Kill them.....
when did I say anything other than what u said......99.9% people support one or other political party.........so 99.9% shud be killed antaava?...... why shud they be killed?
Dada:and should use better judgement and decide whether we want to believe everything that is written about great personalities.....
so, it is ok for you to believe the public statements given out by those leaders.........but others shud be shunned at all costs.........in the name of not propagating hatred against great leaders?.......... balanced view antey.........need to accept all facts........how about this statement below.....
Last_avataar:Great Personalities does have differences when operating as team. That doesn't make them any little.
and may be Nehru had some shortcomings apart from all his greatness..... |
   
Dada
Comedian Username: Dada
Post Number: 1346 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 122.179.56.115
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 01:18 pm: |
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Last_avataar:
The good thing is they had differences - so they debated - argued and what came out as a policy was a product of a mature debate between two different brains - One socialist and one capitalist....one advocating defensiveness and the other always aggressive... We need to learn for these great examples of LEADERSHIP. |
   
Emc2
Side Hero Username: Emc2
Post Number: 9183 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 199.107.16.132
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 01:18 pm: |
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nehru family is curse to india.. still going on..don't no when it is going to end. cherapakura chedevu.
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Indiarocks
Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 11675 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 01:17 pm: |
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Last_avataar:Its unbelievable that a Home Minister can independently do a military operation with out involving PM and President , in India
Alas some sanity, and common sense.
 What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Last_avataar
Junior Artist Username: Last_avataar
Post Number: 109 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 12.10.219.224
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 01:03 pm: |
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Dada:
Its unbelievable that a Home Minister can independently do a military operation with out involving PM and President , in India, that to Great teams like Nehru-Patel. Great Personalities does have differences when operating as team. That doesn't make them any little. Hats off to Nehru and Patel Combo. Nehru is man of Masses and Patel is Man of action, shrewd, Crisis management King. |
   
Dada
Comedian Username: Dada
Post Number: 1339 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 122.179.56.115
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 12:59 pm: |
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Pplsuck:those who support something other than u believe in
thammudu - nee age theliyadhu kaani..n...nenu anindhi - KILL ALL CADRE....KILL THE SUPPORTERS OF ALL POLITICAL PARTIES...... Kill andi...KILLL I say....Kill them..... idhe sentence oka 10 times - different icons - different modulations lo different threads lo vesaaanu..... And ee thread lo - nenu vesindhi enti - we should not propogate hatred against great leaders - and should use better judgement and decide whether we want to believe everything that is written about great personalities..... BELIEF - naa ishtam - ani neeku ardham aithe - - I CAN ONLY PITY YOU |
   
Analog
Side Hero Username: Analog
Post Number: 2716 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 192.94.92.14
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 12:55 pm: |
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Tilak:In one of the notes, Nehru had asked Menon to send the official Cadillac car used by Sardar Patel to the former's office. The second note was shocking. Nehru wanted government secretaries desirous of attending Sardar Patel's last rites to do so at their own personal expenses.
ee nehru family ki idemi sadism...PVNR tho kuda ilage worst ga behave chesaru...personal vendetta against dead...chi...worst politicians of India NenoDi neeve gelichi... nee gelupu naadani thalachi... raagaalu ranjilu roje raaji rammanTi |
   
Dada
Comedian Username: Dada
Post Number: 1337 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 122.179.56.115
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 12:49 pm: |
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Pplsuck:
I pity you..... |
   
Pplsuck
Side Hero Username: Pplsuck
Post Number: 4802 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.228.110.205
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 10:10 am: |
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Dada:History should never be distorted......The best is to read the original letters (the only proof of communication) between the two great leaders.
hehehe.........PR ani oka concept untadi..........and it is not unusual to say good things about the party member in public...........while still holding a grudge against them........ public lo rendu statements pattukuni, everything else is not paazibul.........idemi laagikku?......... just bocz u dont like something, doesnt make MKK Nair a liar..........just like that...... anyways, I think u were the one who was asking to kill everyone and everybody the other day..........those who support something other than u believe in........ a new song for dada.........."talibaanulu naa tammullu, alakaideelu annaayilu.........randi sampeddaam.........raaraa raaraa.........."....... nuvvu selaregipo..........nee hatred ki addosthey narikeyyi evarinainaa..........and u claim urself to be the intellectual wing of that ideology..........GOD help that group......... |
   
Rock
Side Hero Username: Rock
Post Number: 7975 Registered: 04-2012 Posted From: 209.55.83.248
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 10:09 am: |
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johar vallabhai patel. amar rahe |
   
Getafix
Hero Username: Getafix
Post Number: 11695 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 10:08 am: |
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Dada:Patel replied: "My services will be at your disposal, I hope, for the rest of my life and you will have unquestioned loyalty and devotion from me in the cause for which no man in India has sacrificed as much as you have done. Our combination is unbreakable and therein lies our strength.
bharani whistle icon.. hbd Patel. |
   
Time_pass
Side Hero Username: Time_pass
Post Number: 4193 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 136.174.187.5
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 09:39 am: |
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SARDAR
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Whyme
Side Hero Username: Whyme
Post Number: 2615 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 108.134.153.180
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 09:29 am: |
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Nehru was a confused soul.. socialism, capitalism, secularism, indianism, peace movement anni kalipi biriyani chessad |
   
Siloan
Megastar Username: Siloan
Post Number: 29159 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 132.174.20.41
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 09:21 am: |
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zohaar sardar |
   
Tilak
Side Hero Username: Tilak
Post Number: 9568 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 125.22.249.81
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 08:56 am: |
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Tdp2093:Sardar ki Tamil ante padada..only axxlicking kerala valuantenaaa padidha... Tamilregion was representing the leader of south... Basic Sardar gariki Hindi ahamkaram baga vundhi.. South leader anthe antha chulakana
Moratu ga cheptunnanduku manninchandi .. meeku rajakeeyalu, charitra avasarama? LOLest post in my 6 year DB period!!!! India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda Amra Morbo, Jagat Jagbe (We shall die to awaken the nation) - Bagha Jatin |
   
Tdp2093
Junior Artist Username: Tdp2093
Post Number: 189 Registered: 01-2012 Posted From: 194.125.5.211
Rating:  Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 08:31 am: |
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Sardar ki Tamil ante padada..only axxlicking kerala valuantenaaa padidha... Tamilregion was representing the leader of south... Basic Sardar gariki Hindi ahamkaram baga vundhi.. South leader anthe antha chulakana Keep the dream alive...tdp2093 |
   
Newguy123
Hero Username: Newguy123
Post Number: 14107 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 24.44.15.166
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 07:07 am: |
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nehru ani ennisarlu rastaru.. andariki telisinde kada final warning (Message edited by sheriff on November 01, 2012) |
   
Ipc302
Moderator Username: Ipc302
Post Number: 17163 Registered: 02-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 06:29 am: |
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Tilak:Ivaala News papers annitlo full page ads .. about the "sacrifice" .. Sardar ki kanisam okkati kuda raledu ..
adhi common mana congresu unnantha kaalam...inka nayam feroze, sanjay gandhi ki kooda ee range celebrations start seyyaledhu manollu |
   
Tilak
Side Hero Username: Tilak
Post Number: 9563 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 125.22.249.81
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 06:26 am: |
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Ipc302:today is indira gandhi's vardanthi-more important than others
Ivaala News papers annitlo full page ads .. about the "sacrifice" .. Sardar ki kanisam okkati kuda raledu .. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda Amra Morbo, Jagat Jagbe (We shall die to awaken the nation) - Bagha Jatin |
   
Ipc302
Moderator Username: Ipc302
Post Number: 17162 Registered: 02-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 06:16 am: |
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Tilak:Today is Sardar Patel's jayanthi - Amar Rahe Patel ji!!!
today is indira gandhi's vardanthi-more important than others REMEMBER |
   
Tilak
Side Hero Username: Tilak
Post Number: 9561 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 125.22.249.81
Rating:  Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 05:49 am: |
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Shikari:
5 stars .. Jawmetri:alas, if only Patel went with a free hand into kashmir
exactly .. Jacksparrow:chillar munxda koduku laga behave sesadu ga... pure lofarism on nehru's part
single sarma laki kaalutundi nee comment ..  India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda Amra Morbo, Jagat Jagbe (We shall die to awaken the nation) - Bagha Jatin |
   
Dada
Comedian Username: Dada
Post Number: 1336 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 125.16.128.122
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 05:47 am: |
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But it is true that a key area that divided them was the issue of the treatment of India's Muslim minority, and this may be where the two men's admirers diverge irreconcilably. Both Nehru and Patel strove, like their mentor Mahatma Gandhi, to keep the country united. But once Partition had occurred, Patel was inclined to see India as a state that symbolised the interests of the Hindu majority, while Nehru's idea of India explicitly rejected the two-nation theory; having spurned the logic which had created a state for Muslims, he was not about to succumb to the temptation of mirroring that logic by allowing India to become a state for Hindus. "So long as I am Prime Minister," he declared in 1950, "I shall not allow communalism to shape our policy." Patel, on the other hand, was suspicious of the loyalties of Muslims who remained in India and felt those loyalties had to be proven. And yet, this does not mean that Patel was communalist in his approach to India's Muslims. As Home Minister, Patel dealt with the communal disturbances that accompanied Partition firmly and even-handedly; he transferred army units from Poona and Madras to restore order in Delhi, and asked the army to move 10,000 homeless Muslims into the Red Fort to protect them from Hindu rioters. |
   
Dada
Comedian Username: Dada
Post Number: 1335 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 125.16.128.122
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 05:45 am: |
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Mahatma Gandhi's assassination by a Hindu fanatic strengthened the unity of the two men. The Mahatma's last conversation was with Patel; it is believed that the Sardar had been describing his differences with Nehru and seeking permission to quit the Cabinet. Gandhiji again advised them to work together, and his death minutes later made that request a binding obligation upon the Sardar. Nehru (who had been scheduled to meet with the Mahatma, on the same subject, immediately after that fateful prayer-meeting) saw it the same way. Gandhi's death brought the two together again; in their grief they put their differences behind them. It is time that their followers do the same. The heritage of all Indians is richer for having both Nehru and Patel to honor. |
   
Dada
Comedian Username: Dada
Post Number: 1334 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 125.16.128.122
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 05:42 am: |
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History should never be distorted......The best is to read the original letters (the only proof of communication) between the two great leaders. Nehru, in inviting Patel to serve as his deputy, called him " the strongest pillar of the Cabinet". Patel replied: "My services will be at your disposal, I hope, for the rest of my life and you will have unquestioned loyalty and devotion from me in the cause for which no man in India has sacrificed as much as you have done. Our combination is unbreakable and therein lies our strength." The Sardar's assurances were sincere and their "combination" was indispensable as independent India consolidated its unity and found its feet. (Sadly, though, "the rest of my life" that Patel alluded to would extend no more than another three years.) |
   
Jacksparrow
Side Hero Username: Jacksparrow
Post Number: 4860 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 89.234.93.164
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 05:40 am: |
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Tilak:Nehru wanted government secretaries desirous of attending Sardar Patel's last rites to do so at their own personal expenses.
Tilak:send the official Cadillac car used by Sardar Patel to the former's office
final warning (Message edited by sheriff on November 01, 2012) |
   
Jawmetri
Comedian Username: Jawmetri
Post Number: 1945 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 49.204.37.247
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 05:39 am: |
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alas, if only Patel went with a free hand into kashmir |
   
Shikari
Hero Username: Shikari
Post Number: 10729 Registered: 03-2010 Posted From: 183.82.178.22
Rating:  Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 05:38 am: |
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Dada
Comedian Username: Dada
Post Number: 1333 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 125.16.128.122
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http://www.hindu.com/mag/2004/05/23/stories/2004052300240300 .htm Written by nonw other than RAMACHANDRA GUHA Myth 3: Nehru and Vallabhbhai Patel were opponents and adversaries This myth is promoted by advocates of a "strong" India, by those who believe that Nehru was soft on Pakistan, soft on China, and soft on the minorities. It is usually accompanied by a subsidiary myth, namely, that Patel would have made a "better" Prime Minister than Nehru. In truth, Nehru and Patel worked superbly as a team — they were the duumvirate who, in the first, formative years of independence, effectively united and strengthened India. Of course, they differed by temperament and ideology. But these differences were subsumed and transcended by commitment to a common ideal: namely, a free, united, secular and democratic India. There were some things Nehru could do better than Patel — communing with the masses, relating to the world, assuring vulnerable groups (such as Muslims, tribals and Dalits) that they enjoyed equal rights with other Indians. There were some things Patel could do better than Nehru — dealing with the princes, nurturing the Congress party, carrying along dissidents in the Constituent Assembly. Each knew the other's gifts, each took care not to trespass on the other person's turf. That is how, together, they built India anew out of the ruins of Partition. The myth of their rivalry is best answered in their own words. After Gandhi died, Nehru wrote to Patel of how "the old controversies ceases to have much significance and it seems to me that the urgent need of the hour is for all of us to function as closely and co-operatively as possible". In all the years they had worked together, said Nehru, "my affection and regard for you has grown, and I do not think anything can happen to lessen this. ... Anyway, in this crisis that we have to face now after Bapu's death I think it is my duty and, if I may venture to say, yours also for us to face it together as friends and colleagues". Patel, in reply, spoke of how he was "deeply touched, indeed overwhelmed, by the affection and warmth of your letter... ". He went on: "We have both been lifelong comrades in a common cause. The paramount interest of our country and our mutual love and regard, transcending such differences of outlook and temperament as existed, have held us together". And Gandhi's death had only awakened "a fresh realisation of how much we have achieved together and the need for further joint efforts in our grief-stricken country's interests". |
   
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Singlestar sarma - this is for you! Sardar patel's views on "Control" .. http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=SQRFAAAAIBAJ&sjid=aLcMA AAAIBAJ&pg=4715,735445&dq=sardar+patel&hl=en India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda Amra Morbo, Jagat Jagbe (We shall die to awaken the nation) - Bagha Jatin |
   
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quote:Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel, the then Deputy Prime Minister and Home Minister of India, whose 137th birth anniversary is on October 31, was insulted, humiliated and disgraced by the then Prime Minister, Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru, during a Cabinet meeting. "You are a complete communalist and I'll never be a party to your suggestions and proposals," Nehru shouted at Patel during a crucial Cabinet meeting to discuss the liberation of Hyderabad by the Army from the tyranny of the Razakkars, the then Nizam’s private army. "A shocked Sardar Patel collected his papers from the table and slowly walked out of the Cabinet room. That was the last time Patel attended a Cabinet meeting. He also stopped speaking to Nehru since then," writes MKK Nair, a 1947 batch IAS officer, in his memoirs "With No Ill Feeling to Anybody". Nair had close ties with both Sardar and VP Menon, his Man Friday. Though Nair has not written the exact date of the above mentioned Cabinet meeting, it could have happened during the weeks prior to the liberation of Hyderabad by the Indian Army. Operation Polo, the mission to liberate Hyderabad from the Nizam, began on September 13, 1948 and culminated on September 18. While Sardar Patel wanted direct military action to liberate Hyderabad from the rape and mayhem perpetrated by the 2,00,000 Razakars, Nehru preferred the United Nations route. Nair writes that Nehru’s personal hatred for Sardar Patel came out in the open on December 15, 1950, the day the Sardar breathed his last in Bombay (now Mumbai). "Immediately after he got the news about Sardar Patel's death, Nehru sent two notes to the Ministry of States. The notes reached VP Menon, the then Secretary to the Ministry. In one of the notes, Nehru had asked Menon to send the official Cadillac car used by Sardar Patel to the former's office. The second note was shocking. Nehru wanted government secretaries desirous of attending Sardar Patel's last rites to do so at their own personal expenses. "But Menon convened a meeting of all secretaries and asked them to furnish the names of those who want to attend the last rites of Patel. He did not mention anything about the note sent by Nehru. Menon paid the entire cost of the air tickets for those secretaries who expressed their wish to attend Sardar's last journey. This further infuriated Nehru," Nair has written about his memoirs in the corridors of power in New Delhi. Nair's friendship with Patel began during the former's posting in Hyderabad as a civilian officer of the Army. "I was a bachelor and my guest house was a rendezvous of all those in the inner circle of the then Nizam of Hyderabad. Every night they arrived with bundles of currency notes. We gambled and played flash and the stakes were high. During the game I served them the finest Scotch. After a couple of drinks, the princes and the junior Nawabs would open their minds and reveal the secret action plans being drawn out in the Nizam's palace. Once intoxicated, they would tell me about the plans to merge Hyderabad with Pakistan after independence. This was information that no one outside the Nawab's close family members and the British secret service were privy to. But I ensured that this information reached directly to Sardar Patel and thus grew our relation," writes Nair. The relation between Nair and Sardar Patel was such that the former's director general in the ministry told him once: "Sardar Patel keeps an open house for you." Nair, who worked in various ministries during his three-decade long civil service career, writes that the formation of North East Frontier Service under the Ministry of External Affairs by Nehru and the removal of the affairs of the Jammu & Kashmir from the Ministry of Home Affairs are the major reasons behind the turmoil in both the regions. "This was done by Nehru to curtail the wings of Sardar Patel," Nair has written. Though Sardar Patel was known as a no-nonsense man devoid of any sense of humour, Nair has written about lighter moments featuring him. The one centres around VP Menon with whom Patel had a special relation. Menon had to face the ire of Nesamani Nadar, a Congress MP from Kanyakumari, during his visit to Thiruvananthapuram in connection with the reorganisation of States. Nadar barged into Menon's suit in the State Gust House and shouted at him for not obeying his diktats. Menon, who was enjoying his quota of sun-downer, asked Nadar to get out of his room. A furious Nadar sent a six-page letter to Sardar Patel trading all kinds of charges against Menon. "He was fully drunk when I went to meet him in the evening and he abused me using the filthiest of languages," complained Nadar in his letter. Sardar Patel, who read the letter in full asked his secretary V Shankar, an ICS officer: "Shankar, does VP take drinks?" Shankar, who was embarrassed by the question, had to spill the beans. "Sir, Menon takes a couple of drinks in the evening," he said. Sardar was curious to know what was Menon's favorite drink. Shankar replied that Menon preferred only Scotch. "Shankar, you instruct all government secretaries to take Scotch in the evening," Sardar told Shankar. Nair writes that this anecdote was a rave in the Delhi evenings for a number of years! Balraj Krishna (92), who authored Sardar's biography, told The Pioneer that Nehru was opposed to Babu Rajendra Prasad, the then President, travelling to Bombay to pay his last respects to Patel. "But Prasad insisted and made it to Bombay," said Krishna. MV Kamath, senior journalist, said though Nehru too attended the funeral of Patel, it was C Rajagopalachari, who delivered the funeral oration. Prof MGS Narayanan, former chairman of Indian Council of Historical Research, said there was no reason to disbelieve what Nair has written. "But his memoirs did not get the due recognition it deserved. It is a historical chronicle of pre-and post independent India," he said.
http://www.dailypioneer.com/home/online-channel/360-todays-n ewspaper/105521-revealed-nehru-wanted-to-scuttle-sardars-hyd erabad-plan.html Thats Nehru for you. Understand how distorted our history is, written by left-inclined historians!!! Today is Sardar Patel's jayanthi - Amar Rahe Patel ji!!! India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda Amra Morbo, Jagat Jagbe (We shall die to awaken the nation) - Bagha Jatin |