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     Tilak Side Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 9416 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 115.184.9.152 Rating: N/A |
 India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda Amra Morbo, Jagat Jagbe (We shall die to awaken the nation) - Bagha Jatin | ||
| Pplsuck Side Hero Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 4789 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.228.110.205 Rating: N/A |
nee bongu......I know he doesnt support CBN at all........that was just getting under the skin........ and if you read keenly, that was the only qualifier used among all the qualities mentioned in his first post......so it does stand out........ | ||
| Pplsuck Side Hero Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 4788 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.228.110.205 Rating: N/A |
I know.....I was just giving kamma, kapu as example.......I understand you are not saying OBC is the sole criteria........I am saying if that is not the criteria for selection baavuntadi ani........ anyways, inkokallu inkollu enduku..........Modi all the way.......qualifies even without the merit of being OBC......rather than compromising for Mayawati just bcos she is considered "OBC"......she is as good as Nehru elitists and other upper caste leaders you are not very happy about..... | ||
| Jackjill Side Hero Username: Jackjill Post Number: 8842 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 8.20.184.6 Rating: N/A |
 edisinattu undhi annai tamari raagam, you asked him what does he think about YSR and CBN? so he responded - that does not make his intention was to support Bob kurrodini life long "relatively" ane word maneyyamantaava endhi, asalu evvadiki raani thought neek maatrame vasindhi, adhi kooda thread almost century kodutunnappudu  | ||
| Vjavasi Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 10281 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.122 Rating: N/A |
we are discussing about India.........castes with similar background are OBC in most states.......but as i have listed OBC not the sole criteria, they have to rise from middle india......Moreover a kamma or reddy from andhra has little chance to reach the top | ||
| Pplsuck Side Hero Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 4787 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.228.110.205 Rating: N/A |
there you go JJ.......nee yedava nasa champestannaav...........the whole "relatively" thing about "CBN" was tongue-in-cheek to instigate vja........we both moved on to the main topic.........nuvvu maathraam adey pattukuni velaadu......... | ||
| Pplsuck Side Hero Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 4786 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.228.110.205 Rating: N/A |
anybody with that social background and connection with middle India can become the PM........why not a kamma, kaapu (BC), Reddy guy?....why they need to be excluded ani questioning?....... "OBC" aney word teesesthey, everything else is nice anukuntaa....... | ||
| Vjavasi Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 10280 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.122 Rating: N/A |
relative honest in terms of governance of state and monetary corruption.....not morally.....both are crooks, additionally YSR criminal minded | ||
| Raman Hero Username: Raman Post Number: 11472 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 159.182.1.4 Rating: N/A |
oka ravva kuda truth ledu | ||
| Jackjill Side Hero Username: Jackjill Post Number: 8841 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 8.20.184.6 Rating: N/A |
enni melikalu tirugutaav annai.. BTW, this thread is not about Chief Minister of Andhra Pradesh, but about Prime Minister of India, why are you stuck between Bob and YSR? And YSR is no more, why would he even try compare with him,as his intention was to discuss about future PM? naa maata vini jump aipo ee thread lo nunchi | ||
| Vjavasi Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 10278 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.122 Rating: N/A |
not everybody can get the qualites....we are not discussing about personal qualities....but social, cultural and political qualities........OBCs can lead masses in india on account of their social background and connection with middle india...if you see mass leaders in india, most of them are from OBC stock.....they are the natural leaders in the power structure of indian society with major share in population...that should reflect in delhi power corridors also | ||
| Pplsuck Side Hero Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 4785 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.228.110.205 Rating: N/A |
"better compared to" antey "relatively" aney kadaa boss.......if u look at my posts, I was stressing on that word alone....... so u don't think CBN is relatively honest than YSR.....u think both of them are equally corrupt? I have no problem tendering an apology...I did it many times.....nuvvey decide chesuko...... | ||
| Pplsuck Side Hero Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 4784 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.228.110.205 Rating: N/A |
ofcourse nuvvu policy prescribe cheyyaledu..........but how is this diff from reservation?......... "OBC" ki special enti?.....anybody with so and so qualities antey I have no issues.......... or I am ok with "OBC" too.........but u need to backup ur argument with reason......why being OBC is better and not others born into other castes? | ||
| Tilak Side Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 9411 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 115.242.253.89 Rating: N/A |
evadu cheptadayya ee sollu? Ram Naik evaru? Bandaru Dattatreya? Uma Bharti? Madan Lal Khurana? Nitish Kumar? Babulal Marandi? India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda Amra Morbo, Jagat Jagbe (We shall die to awaken the nation) - Bagha Jatin | ||
| Vjavasi Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 10276 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.122 Rating: N/A |
never said CBN relatively honest...just said better compared to YSR | ||
| Pplsuck Side Hero Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 4783 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.228.110.205 Rating: N/A |
banda boothulu tidathaadu....at the same time, coparision vachchinappudu he thinks CBN is "relatively" better than YSR.......vja, correct me if I am wrong...... anyways, if I am wrong about that statement...........hundaagaa sorry cheppi next part of discussion loki velthaa........tappu chesinappudu tappadu kadaa...... | ||
| Vjavasi Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 10275 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.122 Rating: N/A |
where in this thread i said there should be reservation for PM post?.....i just said india needs a OBC PM......i further elaborated what qualities he should possess....this is not about reservation....read the posts gain......A popular OBC PM in delhi is bound to happen in Delhi sooner or later...that's when this country can really move forward bypassing the delhi nehruvian establishment....that's the point | ||
| Pplsuck Side Hero Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 4782 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.228.110.205 Rating: N/A |
kurrodu mentioned "relatively" honest...and vja used it earlier while nominating YSR as the worst CM for AP, if I remember correctly.........and the mantra of TTs all the time, that CBN is relatively honest than YSR......although no one knows the exact truth.... again, my sole point in supporting YSR was........he is better than the rest we have.........one more time for you...... | ||
| Jackjill Side Hero Username: Jackjill Post Number: 8840 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 8.20.184.6 Rating: N/A |
annai anavasram gaa Vjavasi kurrodi meedaki Bob angle techi damage chesav, banda boothulu thitte vaadu kurrodu, anyway nuvvu ippudu entha damage control try chesina kastam - kampu chesasav thread ni initiator intention meedha kotti | ||
| Pplsuck Side Hero Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 4781 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.228.110.205 Rating: N/A |
nuvvey cheppu baasu..........u r the one who mentioned reservation batch ani....and beneficiary batch ani....... I meant the very policy has gone bad either way.........and you are prescribing the same medicine now........into many more aspects........... are you saying that more privileges has to be given based on birth/OBC?.....that is thhe only point I am contesting here...... and if you say, based on birth (OBC), we have to extend more privileges..........then u r the elitist and casteist that you accuse all those guys of....... | ||
| Tdp2093 Junior Artist Username: Tdp2093 Post Number: 182 Registered: 01-2012 Posted From: 79.97.29.241 Rating: N/A |
Castist leaders. Devegouda--Single brahmin was not given central ministry Vajpyaee- Single OBC not given ministry.. Keep the dream alive...tdp2093 | ||
| Zulu Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 14104 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 199.168.243.252 Rating: N/A |
sollu apehe..state level lo mujlim reservation bill thechindi evadu? aa peru theesuku rakunda cbn perenduku thechav? | ||
| Pplsuck Side Hero Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 4780 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.228.110.205 Rating: N/A |
kondani tavvi elukani pattaavu le gaani........... mana TTs CBN ni ruthless levello kooda chitreekarinchaaru...........CBN chinchesetodu officials ni........uchcha posukunevaalu admin/employees andaru........theda vasthey oorukodu ruthless ani.......punctual, bongu, boshaanam ani....... | ||
| Siloan Megastar Username: Siloan Post Number: 28847 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 132.174.20.41 Rating: N/A |
inkennallu baasu e sruthi... | ||
| Pplsuck Side Hero Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 4779 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.228.110.205 Rating: N/A |
aadarsam?.........stop putting words in my mouth..........my sole point in supporting YSR was........he is better than the rest we have......... if u cant understand and read that statement.........I really dont have a clue about u....... quote me saying that YSR is aadarsam bcos of muslim reservation or anything like that..........and we can discuss.........or else u r just throwing mud/allegations not based on facts.......... | ||
| Vjavasi Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 10274 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.122 Rating: N/A |
nobody becomes real leader by selection.......my point is india has to wait for a PM form middle india to emerge from the rot and progress ..how he or she comes up is not the topic here | ||
| Tilak Side Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 9407 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 115.242.253.89 Rating: N/A |
before 80s OBC/SC/ST politicians gurinchi pedda idea ledu annai .. thats only bcoz of my knowledge handicap .. not becoz of their non-existence .. my point is simple .. Indian leadership should reflect Indians - it could be a rural agrarian brahmin or an urban businessman Dalit, doesnt matter in my book - as long as they have character and are grounded to roots .. otherwise, even OBCs, SCs, STs, lost it big time due to "their" corrupt reps all these years. I dont like her. Utterly corrupt, cheated Dalits for Jathavs, arrogant, selfish - everything .. Congress lanti ulfa gallaki Dalit votebank unte .. Paswan gadu kuda puli laa kanipinchadu konnallu Dalits ki .. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda Amra Morbo, Jagat Jagbe (We shall die to awaken the nation) - Bagha Jatin | ||
| Vjavasi Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 10273 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.122 Rating: N/A |
reservation policy negative ante daani beneficiaries valla burden ani kaadha?....simple corelation kooda teliyakunda posts esi avathala vallaki questions, preachings chestunnav | ||
| Jackjill Side Hero Username: Jackjill Post Number: 8839 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 8.20.184.6 Rating: N/A |
pplsuck annai ni oggeyandi, ayanni soosthe naaku maa paatha friend gurthuku vastaadu, vaadu chess aadetappudu ganta sepu alochinchi ok maha konda VP step esetodu - school lo andaru nee yabba aa step veyyataniki oka ganta seppu ekkala pustakam sadivinattu mathematical formulalu sadivav kada raa anetollu maa annayya kooda anthe argument maanchi point tho chestunnadu anukuntaam -- kaani soosthe Jagan anna zindabad "relatively honest" annandhuku CBN ki support anukunnadu, pakkane "ruthless" undhi - CBN is not even close to be a ruthless anedhi ignore sesesadu.. ayanaki CBN meedha ee type lo edisthe edho tutthi  | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 8880 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5 Rating: N/A |
 edho comedy attempted meshaaru.. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Pplsuck Side Hero Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 4777 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.228.110.205 Rating: N/A |
who certifies this?........OBC, is by birth...... | ||
| Vjavasi Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 10272 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.122 Rating: N/A |
mayavathi beats them all...her rise is a miracle in indian politics | ||
| Pplsuck Side Hero Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 4776 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.228.110.205 Rating: N/A |
nuvvu "relatively" word use chesthey doubt vachchindi.....evari kosam alaa open gaa vadilesaav ani.... | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 8879 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5 Rating: N/A |
hmmm now saying a person should grow as a OBC, not as an elitist the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Vjavasi Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 10271 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.122 Rating: N/A |
all these people started in late 80s and 90s.....they didn't occupy important posts in delhi though some of them consolidated in states...that's my point leadership at centre should reflect grass roots and states | ||
| Pplsuck Side Hero Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 4775 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.228.110.205 Rating: N/A |
so why not merit and leadership be the criteria.....ee addition enti?....that someone is better than others based on caste............... monnatidaaka hinduism gabbu pattindi.....it is varna based system........and talent based system.........daanni birth based system chesaaru...........so gabbu pattindi annaav.........now u say basing on birth is good....... | ||
| Raman Hero Username: Raman Post Number: 11459 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 159.182.1.4 Rating: N/A |
ayana lekkalo umabharathi jest spelling mistake anukonta | ||
| Tilak Side Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 9404 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 115.242.253.89 Rating: N/A |
except for Mayawati - rest all are excellent choices .. and all are from BJP  India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda Amra Morbo, Jagat Jagbe (We shall die to awaken the nation) - Bagha Jatin | ||
| Pplsuck Side Hero Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 4774 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.228.110.205 Rating: N/A |
Reservation batch analedu....reservation policy annaa.........u need to read/think again.........sariggaa chadavalevaa??..........but pakkanolla sarigaa discuss cheyyalerani feel avutuntaavaa?....... Nehru aina, inko elitist aina or mana Mayawati ainaa........caste based correct kaademo ani thinking....... "Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you." nuvvu cheppey daanikantey elitist and casteist idea untadaa?..........instead of the qualities required, now we need to make special privileges/rules to go for an candidate based on caste tag?..........all the while opposing the casteist elite.........you come up with a suggestion that PM shoud be based on another caste..........naakaithey blatant blunder anipistundi.... | ||
| Tilak Side Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 9403 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 115.242.253.89 Rating: N/A |
Jagjeevan Ram - Dep PM, Charan Singh .. he was a key player for several years during the 70s .. alage Balram Jakkad, VP Singh, Chautalas, Yadavs .. andarini consider cheyyandi .. nenu 2 names chepthe .. iddare unnattu kaadu annai .. also plz consider "etc" .. CMs, Ministers, Governors entha mandi ani adigaaru .. I have given you a big list anyways .. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda Amra Morbo, Jagat Jagbe (We shall die to awaken the nation) - Bagha Jatin | ||
| Vjavasi Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 10270 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.122 Rating: N/A |
who are better leaders than these in past and present?.......each one fo them rose on their merit and leadership | ||
| Vjavasi Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 10269 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.122 Rating: N/A |
needhi eppudu okate rakam edupa?.........topic ki naa caste ki CBN ki sambandham enti? | ||
| Zulu Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 14102 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 199.168.243.252 Rating: |
lol..state level muslims ki reservations bill modalettinodu mathram neeku adarsam..you are right..u dont have a clue | ||
| Vjavasi Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 10267 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.122 Rating: N/A |
sarigga discuss cheyyalleva?...... CBN enduku vachaadu madhya lo?
Resevation batch valla desham nasanam kaledhu.......ollu balisina batch valla nasanam ayyindhi......biggest reservation beneficiaries in this country is nehru and the elitist establishment that followed | ||
| Jackjill Side Hero Username: Jackjill Post Number: 8837 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 8.20.184.6 Rating: N/A |
kaps ok kaani !! kams and reds AP lo aithe OC kaada, andhuke nannu TN/Kar citizen gaa consider chesi akkada maa ollu OBC lu aithe nannu PM ni cheyyali ani naa prardhana | ||
| Vjavasi Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 10266 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.122 Rating: N/A |
their power never reached delhi, just limited to few states
only two names in sixty years | ||
| Pplsuck Side Hero Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 4773 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.228.110.205 Rating: N/A |
pragmatic, sincere, relatively honest, rural, farming, low-middle class OBC PM's aa.........with vision and leadership to lead the country...... so u think these guys should be given based on their caste?.........although we have so many others much better than them........ emo le........may be u r right.....I have no clue..... | ||
| Pplsuck Side Hero Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 4772 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.228.110.205 Rating: N/A |
based on thread initiator idi lock chesuko.... inkaa ardham kaaledaa?........antha direct clues istuntey..........rural, farming.....rugged,sincere,pragmatic, relatively honest and ruthless......... "relatively" honest anta.......CBN ki pattam kattesey plans emo....... | ||
| Vjavasi Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 10265 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.122 Rating: N/A |
modi kaakunda mayavathi, kalyan singh, shivraj chouhan, Uma bharathi, | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11600 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Prastutam OBC thappa anni elitist. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Tilak Side Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 9400 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 115.242.253.89 Rating: |
Oh so many - post Mandal agitation, entire Northern part is dominated by OBC/SC/STs - and even before that - names I can think of - Jagjeevan Ram, Charan Singh etc ... off the head .. there are 100s of OBC, SC, STs .. South lo post independence - TN, KE, KA llo its mostly OBCs dominated politically .. Btw - I strongly believe caste has nothing to do with "elitism". It is the lack of convictions that can turn a staunch Lohia-ite Laloo to be so brazenly corrupt for so many years continously. Anyways, as I said before, we will not have any agreement over this .. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda Amra Morbo, Jagat Jagbe (We shall die to awaken the nation) - Bagha Jatin | ||
| Pplsuck Side Hero Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 4771 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.228.110.205 Rating: N/A |
idi emi bokadia criteria?.......CBN laaga reservations for everybody in every aspect ni follow avutunnaavaa?....... ippatikey desam naakipothuntey based on these reservations/calculations.....seems like u r hell bent on extending it to everything and anything under the sun.... | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11597 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
nijam gaa other qualities unna vadiki caste/religion help tho pani ledu. Caste/religion help teeskundamu anukune vadiki thana leadership meeda nammakam lenattu. Inka state/country ni em lead chestadu? Poddunna leste -
What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Vjavasi Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 10264 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.122 Rating: N/A |
forget about PMs, how many OBCs,SCs,ST's became important ministers,CMs, Governors, in this country in the last 60 years? | ||
| Zulu Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 14100 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 199.168.243.252 Rating: |
musugu lo guddhulata aapi 'elitist' ante em cassette.. kam, kap and reds 'middle india' na elitistaa cheppandi.. | ||
| Pplsuck Side Hero Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 4770 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.228.110.205 Rating: N/A |
oka rendu perlu nuvvu cheppu......who is suited for this post based on his "OBC" card........with needed qualities like leadership, vision and everything else that is needed....... already Modi ni teesesaav.....so please get other names........ | ||
| Tilak Side Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 9398 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 115.242.253.89 Rating: N/A |
you would love to read this - www.rediff.com/news/column/congress-corruption-and-political -morality-column/20121015.htm Btw, Nehruvian elitists of the 1950s - had OBCs and SC/STs as well and they are equally responsible. My point is simple, Nehru/Congress from 1950 maintained Delhi politics like a brothel, and most people of all backgrounds till now, whoever ruled from Delhi - is no virgin!!! India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda Amra Morbo, Jagat Jagbe (We shall die to awaken the nation) - Bagha Jatin | ||
| Vjavasi Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 10263 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.122 Rating: N/A |
lol.....just caste cheppukunte CM,PM ayyipotethara?....caste helps if other qualities also add | ||
| Vjavasi Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 10261 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.122 Rating: N/A |
you are talking about regional and sub-regional players who cannot change how system works in this country.......they may be corrupt but they are attached to and take care atleast their votebanks......their electoral prospectus directly related to their performance......most of them are symptoms of existing polity nurtured by nehruvian elite establishment, not the cause, but elitists are friends of none and their agenda is to somehow keep this country in their shackles by any means | ||
| Last_avataar Junior Artist Username: Last_avataar Post Number: 17 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 12.10.219.224 Rating: N/A |
India lo OBC number chaala singificant, adi fact Kaanu meeru miss ayye point entante... poer chestiki voste maripoye vallaki caste antu emi undadu. | ||
| Tilak Side Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 9396 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 115.242.253.89 Rating: N/A |
In case of AP, Krishna Yadav was part of big scams. Venkataswamy is renowned for his illegal assets. Even they say, Balayogi earned good in his few years of limelight. Dharmana Prasada Rao, Devender Goud, Mukesh Goud - all corrupt to the core - all from middle India - all sucked up to elitists - though some of them may not have been elites. India level lo - Karunanidhi, Mulayam, Mayawati, Devegowda, Choutala, Hooda, Badals, Thackreys, Pawars, Laloo, Paswan, Salman Khurshid, Sri Prakash Jaiswal, Beni Prasad Verma, Shashi Tharoor, Murli Deora, Pranab Mukherjee, P Chidambaram just see the people who are corrupt, these are all from different backgrounds .. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda Amra Morbo, Jagat Jagbe (We shall die to awaken the nation) - Bagha Jatin | ||
| Vjavasi Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 10259 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.122 Rating: N/A |
rural middle india is mostly OBCs, even in urban areas they have major presence | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11595 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
TRUST - yes we are talking about the means to win trust. Caste/Religion/rich family/poor family ivevi okadi chetilo undavu, they are pre-determined by birth. Thana own achievements kakunda ivi cheppukuni trust gain chese vadini leader ante its an insult to the term leadership. Alage mana problem ki elanti solutions istunnadu ani choodakunda ee factors ni chooskoni okadini leader ante anthakante moorkhatvam ledu. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Vjavasi Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 10258 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.122 Rating: N/A |
you don't have to agree, you can always give some examples to prove your point | ||
| Last_avataar Junior Artist Username: Last_avataar Post Number: 13 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 12.10.219.224 Rating: N/A |
The so called partied like BSP and SP are equally worst coMPARED to Cong and BJP when in comes to that state. Middle India Doesn't mean OBCs only. | ||
| Vjavasi Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 10257 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.122 Rating: N/A |
if leadership is defined by ideas then many nobel winners should have become PM, presidents, governors......main quality of leadership is winning trust | ||
| Vjavasi Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 10256 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.122 Rating: N/A |
Why do you think SP,BSP are worse than congress?......congress politics is the root of poison, these regional parties are reactions to it
In India quality of individual depends on many factors and caste is an important one.........character is not something that can be standardized, different flavours exist and mostly it's a function of their social background.....the characteristcs of middle india are best suited to take this country forward | ||
| Time_pass Side Hero Username: Time_pass Post Number: 4150 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 136.174.187.5 Rating: N/A |
OBC lo elite lu lera. Just look at Shinde entha tintalla | ||
| Tilak Side Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 9393 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 115.242.253.89 Rating: N/A |
whatever defines upper caste, I can disprove it with numerous examples. However, I know we will never agree on this. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda Amra Morbo, Jagat Jagbe (We shall die to awaken the nation) - Bagha Jatin | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11594 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
If a leader has to depend on his caste, background, or financial status, than his ideas to connect to people, that is an insult to his leadership, period. It is also an indication how ignorant people are. Vivekanandudu cheppina "In our culture character makes a gentleman" etc facebook lo raskuni share cheskodanike annamata. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Last_avataar Junior Artist Username: Last_avataar Post Number: 12 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 12.10.219.224 Rating: N/A |
How about corrupt Saamjvaadi, BSP , some local AP folks, Are they great Visionaries. What make u think OBC can be great Visionary and no inclination to corruption. The Qualities lie in Individuals not in Caste Any one from any Caste can be a great leader. But they too can become selfish and corrupt. OBC s are no exception. History has seen many instance how power engulfs people. | ||
| Vjavasi Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 10255 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.122 Rating: N/A |
it's mostly an upper caste phenomenon in india | ||
| Vjavasi Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 10254 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.122 Rating: N/A |
i am not referring to party strategy here......my answer was to the question why Bjp elitist support base and sections of leadership does't explicitly refer to caste | ||
| Vjavasi Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 10253 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.122 Rating: N/A |
it will make a difference.....atleast people will be able to connect with a leader from middle india......nobody can achieve anything without connecting to people....nehru, Indira visionaries is a good joke...if at all they had any vision, it only degraded this country......PVNR better than them but not upto the mark, he glossed over main issues | ||
| Zulu Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 14099 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 199.168.243.252 Rating: N/A |
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| Tilak Side Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 9391 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 115.242.253.89 Rating: N/A |
I disagree.
Yes, there is problem. But elitism is not limited to "upper castes", it is basically in Delhi. Even a Madhu Yashki Goud is more 'elitist' today than say Kavuri Sambasiva Rao. Exactly my point. Thats the bottomline. No political advantage highlighting caste. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda Amra Morbo, Jagat Jagbe (We shall die to awaken the nation) - Bagha Jatin | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11593 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Highlighting caste lekundane BJP karnataka lo LKG party ayyindaa? What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 33650 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
where did i say obc minority? when you said alabama first bilak...i said in general about nalla leaders in usa as minority. | ||
| Tilak Side Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 9390 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 115.242.253.89 Rating: N/A |
between them, they ruled for 33 years - whats their vision??? help people identify! India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda Amra Morbo, Jagat Jagbe (We shall die to awaken the nation) - Bagha Jatin | ||
| Vjavasi Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 10252 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.122 Rating: N/A |
Bjp voters or rightists not casteist is far from truth, many are closet casteists...they just don't see a political advantage in highlighting caste.....why dilli Bjp is full of upper caste elitists?
Role of hindutva as political mobilizer is exaggerated, it could have worked in the elections during RJB....not after that
his role limited to few years
though contributed positively in few areas......his performance highly exaggerated.........PVNR has elitist background | ||
| Tilak Side Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 9389 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 115.242.253.89 Rating: N/A |
What would help you though is - out of 66 years - we have had PMs from one family - who thought and behaved alike - for 39 years - ruled by proxy for 8 more years - which makes it 47* years. 2 years for LBS - 5 years for PVNR - 6 years for ABVP - 7 years for kichdi PMs The difference is stark - if you can read that. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda Amra Morbo, Jagat Jagbe (We shall die to awaken the nation) - Bagha Jatin | ||
| Last_avataar Junior Artist Username: Last_avataar Post Number: 10 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 12.10.219.224 Rating: N/A |
LBS , PV , Nehru and Indira, Modi are some of the examples of Leaders with Vision ad Courage | ||
| Last_avataar Junior Artist Username: Last_avataar Post Number: 9 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 12.10.219.224 Rating: N/A |
U are forgetting a fact that power makes so many people go crazy your so called elite or OBC. having seen so many worst politicians in all categories what makes u to think OBC leader will make difference. | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11591 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Janalaki swataha gaa gajji unte daniki leaders em cheyaleru. Leader danni vadukunnara ledaa annadi point. Obama aa thinking ni encourage cheyaledu, at least in public anukuntunna. Lok Pal meeda JP ichina points teeskunnamu ani PM parliament lo chepte adi JP caste ki edo achievement gaa choosaru konthamandi. Adi valla kharma anthe, JP em cheyaledu. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Tilak Side Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 9387 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 115.242.253.89 Rating: N/A |
There is a reason why Modi does not overtly or studiedly play caste card! Because BJP or rightists are the last casteists to gather votes, thats never Hindutva-vaadi's "strength" per se. Hindutva Nationalism is our strength. It has paid off well till now. The game changer now is Modi being the face and selling it to more people! Anyways - PMs who had a vision - LBS, PVNR .. (both may not qualify to be "elitists" "leaders")! India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda Amra Morbo, Jagat Jagbe (We shall die to awaken the nation) - Bagha Jatin | ||
| Zulu Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 14095 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 199.168.243.252 Rating: N/A |
India lo OBC minority kadu..about 30%..about the same % as OC 'Its about time elect a bilak guy' ane thinking kooda alabama ki helping sesindi ani nenu strong ga feel avutha | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 33649 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
1776 nunchi...ye nalla vaadu president ayinaa....first bilak nay... 1980's lonay, jesse jackson ... India lo ayinaa, usa lo ayinaa....minority leaders concentration vaalla janam meedha untundhi...andhukay PM/President gaa acceptance undadhu. Whereas alabama always talked about americans, not about african americans. having said that....2 factors helped alabama 8 yrs bush rule and real real bad stock market 4-5 weeks before the elections that ran into election day as well. first nalla president, first nalla president antay vote veyyaneekay...thellolu indian secularists emi kaadhu | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11590 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Thread basic point ni poorthi gaa miss ayyaru. Vjavasi ki naa saanubhooti.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Vjavasi Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 10251 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.122 Rating: N/A |
Tell me one important leader from elites in delhi who was honest with vision in present and past? | ||
| Last_avataar Junior Artist Username: Last_avataar Post Number: 8 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 12.10.219.224 Rating: N/A |
\quoteauthor Show me one OBC leades who is honest and have a vision, in the current politics. Kulalani pattunkuni veladinanta kaalame inte sangatulu... we need a good leade with vision and strong basics of Indian life style | ||
| Vjavasi Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 10250 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.122 Rating: N/A |
good candidate ante?........a PM candidate from middle india with rural background has higher probability of doing good to this country compared to others assuming other factors are same | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11589 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
aunu mari aa rendu lekapothe manaki vachindi rendu seat le
Migatha enni unna, OBC kavalsi vachindi manaki. Akkade telustondi... What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Zulu Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 14093 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 199.168.243.252 Rating: N/A |
alabama ki kooda first bilak..first bilak..this is historic ani pushup isthaney kada ayyindi | ||
| Jackjill Side Hero Username: Jackjill Post Number: 8834 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 8.20.184.6 Rating: N/A |
 nannu seyyochu kada - edo oka state lo nenu kooda OBC ne ayyundochu | ||
| Vjavasi Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 10249 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.122 Rating: N/A |
hehe...post sarigga chadive pani ledhu....OBC okkate criteria ani evadu cheppadu....so many other necessary attributes listed........casteists and religious fanatics better compared to armchair sanctimonious self assumed intellectuals | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 33648 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
 good candidate untay....time occhinappudu avuthaar, alabama laaga. Anthey gaani....tamilodu kaaledhu, bengalodu kaaledhani reserve cheyyadam endhi? comedy of khatmandu PM kursi lo venkata swamy or devender goud koosogaanay...annee set kaavu gaa? | ||
| Vjavasi Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 10248 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.122 Rating: N/A |
except Modi, nobody else among so called "top" leaders......but modi is beyond the image of caste | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11588 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Janallo kula gajji, matha gajji lepudamu. That is taking on the establishment. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Siloan Megastar Username: Siloan Post Number: 28828 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 132.174.20.41 Rating: N/A |
bazapa lo OBC PM candi evuru? sushamma sodari or gadakari kurrod | ||
| Jawmetri Comedian Username: Jawmetri Post Number: 1728 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 49.204.37.247 Rating: N/A |
sorry, for the people, OF the people, BY the people. This is what India is. No Mantra like "MBC or Dalit" for PM will work. | ||
| Raman Hero Username: Raman Post Number: 11425 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 159.182.1.4 Rating: N/A |
Ante Vvasi kurradi agenda kosam questioning annamata  | ||
| Siloan Megastar Username: Siloan Post Number: 28827 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 132.174.20.41 Rating: N/A |
ledu | ||
| Vjavasi Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 10247 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.122 Rating: N/A |
question ardham kaledhu | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11587 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
OBCs, Dalits lo elites undakudada? LOL... Elitism mana doings, character valana kaadu annamata. Kulam valana vastundi annamata. Idi mana thinking, mallee fighting establishment etc.. PS: Modi OBC anna fact ki, ee thread ki ye sambandham ledu anukuntunna.  What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Vjavasi Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 10246 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.122 Rating: N/A |
yes, he is OBC | ||
| Siloan Megastar Username: Siloan Post Number: 28826 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 132.174.20.41 Rating: N/A |
egam babai modi ni limit seyyak...scope alaane vunchu.,,,,rakshakudu | ||
| Raman Hero Username: Raman Post Number: 11424 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 159.182.1.4 Rating: N/A |
modi obc kada? | ||
| Siloan Megastar Username: Siloan Post Number: 28825 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 132.174.20.41 Rating: N/A |
gadkari kurrod idena? | ||
| Keko_keka Comedian Username: Keko_keka Post Number: 1468 Registered: 07-2010 Posted From: 162.119.68.26 Rating: N/A |
India badly needs a good leader with great vision | ||
| Vjavasi Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 10245 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.122 Rating: N/A |
preferably from a rural,farming or lower middle class background.....rugged,sincere,pragmatic, relatively honest and ruthless.....Indian elites failed this country.....This country has not seen a OBC or dalit prime minister........Delhi has to be cleaned of elitist filth before India can even hope anything positive.......... |
