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Mental_sachinodu
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Post Number: 8862 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 15, 2012 - 11:15 am: |
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welcome back anand garu... God ane concept ni konchem pakkana pettandi, and also the universe it self. my struggle here is with human perception, and out ability to imagine anything and everything, and to me the most complex and abstract is the in-finiteness concept. to me our abilities to perceive things are appearing to be based on our visual capabilities, and visual knowledge, and strangely i feel language is also facilitator and also a barrier. at first thought it looks like our language cant always express what we perceive or experience, but i somehow feel, it is a two way process, our ability of language also restricts what we can imagine and perceive. will get back to this thread again.
Anand_n:Limits are needed if you assume a creator and creation. Without these assumed limits you cannot distinguish where the creator ends and creation starts.
although im abit skeptical about this, but na contention is not about THE Universe, its more about human mind or more exactly my ability to understand. through a learning process my mind can understand something that it did not realize before, but in this case the learning process itself seems vague and faulty. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada |
   
Ballasticmissile
Comedian Username: Ballasticmissile
Post Number: 1372 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 125.99.197.136
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2012 - 11:10 pm: |
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Thikka_sankara:baba b 2 the a to the b to the a cinema choosavaa... andulo oka dialogue undi.... adi vesukoo ilaa anipinchi nappudalla
manam malli discuddam month ending ki .... having good time arguing with u..... for this topic.... Pawan || YSR|| Indira|| Adi-shankaracharya ||Cleopatra |
   
Farmer
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Post Number: 5398 Registered: 03-2012 Posted From: 67.159.36.29
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2012 - 10:34 pm: |
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Rasputin
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Post Number: 16320 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 74.131.115.83
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2012 - 06:53 pm: |
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Anand_n:just a documentation of theories and thoughts of the time
+1 01/06/2012 - 169.4;05/04/2012 - 175.8; 8/1/2012 - 179 |
   
Anand_n
Hero Username: Anand_n
Post Number: 12321 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.120.83.138
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2012 - 06:38 pm: |
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Ballasticmissile: kani scientific explanations for religion or the other way around aa ye vidam ga potunnaru janalu ante in the reverse way ani pistondi nakaite....
Mee old id emiti ? Scriptures when stripped of magic and aura surrounding them , are just a documentation of theories and thoughts of the time.And people have wondered about the universe since they looked at the sky..it is interesting looking thru the scriptures to see what they thought and deduced- and the cross-validation can happen both ways The value of these discussions is from people putting their varying views forward. Ridicule and judgement deters sharing of thoughts..especially on theoretical topics like these After all is said people will take from the various viewpoints what appeals to them...and when it comes to taking crucial decisions most people still rely on the scientifically validated methods. Relax- they are not likely to regress into faith-based healing instead of doctors etc. My free time for the weekend is over..hope you guys continue to have a good discussion  The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim |
   
Thikka_sankara
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Post Number: 2500 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 122.164.69.193
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2012 - 01:05 pm: |
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Ballasticmissile:ye vidam ga potunnaru janalu ante in the reverse way ani pistondi nakaite....
baba b 2 the a to the b to the a cinema choosavaa... andulo oka dialogue undi.... adi vesukoo ilaa anipinchi nappudalla Naakonchem thikkundi.... daaaniko lekkundi |
   
Ballasticmissile
Comedian Username: Ballasticmissile
Post Number: 1369 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 125.99.197.136
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2012 - 12:28 pm: |
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Anand_n:There is a little story that says Shiva made a comment about Kali's complexion and hurt she went into a cave for some days and transformed into the fair Gauri ..
ee stories meeru cheppindanta telusu andi.... kani scientific explanations for religion or the other way around aa ye vidam ga potunnaru janalu ante in the reverse way ani pistondi nakaite.... from this thread i think so... at-least from this minute sample Pawan || YSR|| Indira|| Adi-shankaracharya ||Cleopatra |
   
Raman
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Post Number: 11374 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 173.29.143.135
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2012 - 12:27 am: |
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Pulibongaram:
parallel world lo athi loka sundari anakuvaga nuvvu enni boothul tittina padi undi gillite gillinchukuntoo tidithe tittinchukuntoo kodithe kottinchukuntoo oh aa oohe athi madhuram chittesh ee life ki ala oohallo kanicheyyi  |
   
Pulibongaram
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Post Number: 3686 Registered: 03-2012 Posted From: 98.27.57.223
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2012 - 12:26 am: |
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Pulibongaram
Side Hero Username: Pulibongaram
Post Number: 3685 Registered: 03-2012 Posted From: 98.27.57.223
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2012 - 12:25 am: |
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Rock
Side Hero Username: Rock
Post Number: 7379 Registered: 04-2012 Posted From: 209.55.81.236
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2012 - 11:50 pm: |
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Ntr_rocks:Chittesh too much vuntad..anduke ezpectations eluva vuntayi..
chittesh ela unte emi mastaru. manasu chudala. inside matters. and chittesh got what it takes to get athiloka sundhari |
   
Ntr_rocks
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Post Number: 39675 Registered: 04-2009
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2012 - 11:42 pm: |
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Basic ga.. Chittesh too much vuntad..anduke ezpectations eluva vuntayi.. This DB needs better class of Hater, Pyscho and Sadist. |
   
Rock
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Post Number: 7376 Registered: 04-2012 Posted From: 209.55.81.236
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2012 - 11:40 pm: |
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Pulibongaram:Anand_n: you may even find atiloka sundari in a parallel universe aaoohe entha baagundi
chitta niku pelli time vacchindhi. ni parents number ivvu teliayajesta. vallu marchipoyaremo |
   
Anand_n
Hero Username: Anand_n
Post Number: 12320 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.120.83.138
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2012 - 11:38 pm: |
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Ringo_rangaswamy:Pumping hormones and experiencing god
I did not use the word God in that post, I was talking about the erasure of boundaries that limit your perception of you There is a lot of research available on the role of oxytocin on perception of self, generosity, empathy -again something we have discussed here earlier Visited the MIT museum over summer and their Cognitive research was fascinating ..One of those exhibits talked about a default network in the brain that is present but suppressed in most people. Infact the more the suppression, the higher the function of memory , separation and ability to take cognitive decisions. When the suppression is reduced and the default network becomes more active,you lose the sense of separation, memory and cognitive decision making take a hit..Sound familiar ? " reduce ego and thought(separation and cognition) to experience God " There was more research on what gives you the empathy to read minds..Mysteries of the mind being peeled away by neuro and cognitve science - the researcher was Rebecca Saxe - Google cheyyandi if interested in reading We live in wonderful times
Ringo_rangaswamy: Red bull should have ad tag - Redbull-ness, next to Godliness, I guess.
Redbull sangati telidu kani there are hallucinogens that take you to that point annadi common knowledge kada.. Read an account that a concoction of herbal tea spiked with Cobra poison is used by Sadhus to have those experiences and the author had one himself Every culture has hallucinogens they used to trigger "spiritual" experiences But we digress again - let the discussion stay at limits of the Universe The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim |
   
Humpty_dumpty
Moderator Username: Humpty_dumpty
Post Number: 18769 Registered: 02-2009
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2012 - 10:15 pm: |
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Pulibongaram
Side Hero Username: Pulibongaram
Post Number: 3684 Registered: 03-2012 Posted From: 98.27.57.223
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2012 - 09:54 pm: |
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Anand_n:you may even find atiloka sundari in a parallel universe
aaoohe entha baagundi |
   
Anand_n
Hero Username: Anand_n
Post Number: 12319 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.120.83.138
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2012 - 09:38 pm: |
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Pulibongaram:limit undaa ledaa?
Undi anukoni proceed ayipondi That way you can look for a wormhole that can take you to a different universe if life in this one becomes too hard..Presuming you are single who knows you may even find atiloka sundari in a parallel universe
Thirtyplus: googd to see people googgling a lot to post in this db
Are you new to this DB ? Most of the people in this thread have been discussing these topics for many years here And if people google to add references instead of typing them again - what is wrong with that? And even if they are new to the topic and google just to participate..they are using the discussion to learn more about the universe..really what is so funny ?;) The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim |
   
Ringo_rangaswamy
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Post Number: 2021 Registered: 02-2011 Posted From: 69.120.136.97
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2012 - 09:37 pm: |
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Big bang is true but not the full story. Regarding universe What we see is not what we think it is. Pumping hormones and experiencing god - is it possible. Donno but since there is a physiological activity involved scientists will try for sure and guess alraeady are. What is 5-energy coffee drink and Red Bull all about?!! Red bull should have ad tag - Redbull-ness, next to Godliness, I guess. |
   
Pulibongaram
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Post Number: 3682 Registered: 03-2012 Posted From: 98.27.57.223
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2012 - 08:39 pm: |
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saturday evening baatamline fleaje......limit undaa ledaa? |
   
Thirtyplus
Junior Artist Username: Thirtyplus
Post Number: 512 Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 68.80.48.18
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2012 - 08:38 pm: |
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googd to see people googgling a lot to post in this db TDP - TODU DONGALA PARTY
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Braindrain
Junior Artist Username: Braindrain
Post Number: 96 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 216.195.77.144
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2012 - 05:00 pm: |
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Kishorebharath:
Meeru naa bapathi vunare...last 3-4 years lo only 155 postsaaa...hmmm..someone like me in this DB, who rarely comes but when speaks out his mind, gets riduculed... Anyways my piece of mind on this thread As far as I know, when Birla Planetrium in Kolkatta, few years back and here is some stats which I remember : By the way Movies, Politics, Sports, Music is my interest like many of you. But I have a special interest in Astronomy & Unanswered questions in the world..so this is what I know and would like to share : 1. Age of the Universe - 15 Billion Years (Before that what was present cannot be explained by a human mind). 2. Length of the Universe 97 Billion Light Years (1 Light Year = 10 Trillion Kilometers). 3. Universe started with BIG BANG which split the atom into particles which are spreading all over continously. 4. There is an END to the universe...As per philosphical theories, not user scientifically. 5. As per Hindu Vedas, Brahmam (the Creator), Vishnu (Protector) & Shiva (Destoryer) are the force behind this creation. My Dad used to tell me when I was a kid that a Day & Night of Brahmam is equal to 1000 Crore human Years (500 Crore human Years = 1 Day for Brahmam and 500 Crore years = 1 Night for Brahma). I am not sure if he was right, becuase if that was the case, the Brahma is just 15 days old (age of universe)... |
   
Kish
Megastar Username: Kish
Post Number: 26674 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.9.243.53
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2012 - 02:51 pm: |
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Anand_n:
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Anand_n
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Post Number: 12318 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.120.83.138
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2012 - 02:49 pm: |
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Kish:
LOL - patakalam lo rishis astralu prasadinchevaru ata, wish I could present you with a keyboard abilities - ennalu only mouse to ee kashtalu meeku  The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim |
   
Kishorebharath
Junior Artist Username: Kishorebharath
Post Number: 155 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 175.101.136.71
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2012 - 02:46 pm: |
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emi artham kaledu repu chaduvukunta "Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation." -oscar wilde |
   
Kish
Megastar Username: Kish
Post Number: 26663 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.9.243.53
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2012 - 02:43 pm: |
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Anand_n:
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Anand_n
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Post Number: 12317 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.120.83.138
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2012 - 02:40 pm: |
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Mental_sachinodu: to me it like imagining a square with no ends, just cant imagine it!!
Check the oxymoron in that statement - a square is a square in your mind because it is bounded by four straight lines ... If it has no ends it cannot be a square All limitations of the mind are because of the constraints we impose on it thru what we know .. Coming back to the question of does the universe have limits - depends on what assumptions you start with If you find yourself agreeing with "the universe is expanding" - then yes it has to have a finite size cos the infinite cannot expand - that opens up the possibility of many such universes. If you define the universe as all that exists..then I would say it is infinite
all those interested in the physics of the universe:
Liked this talk by Michio Kaku- I thought it was a great encapsulation of the journey - he keeps it simple enough for non-physicists to understand Its 42 mins long - but worth it... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NbBjNiw4tk For a more detailed explanation of the string theory :This is the first of a four part video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJQsxfTQVJY Ballasticmissile: yevaru yekkada rasaro ee vishayanni cheppandi
Chala limited perspective emo alochinchandi.. There are people who find strong correlations in latest scientific finds to the various scriptures, like the big bang to the vedas, a colleague was also correlating it to the bible , the string theory to the Kabbalah...I had posted a link here on the Kabbalah-string theory overlap couple years ago.. Is it selective correlation ? Could be , but it also helps expand your thought on possible explanations There is a little story that says Shiva made a comment about Kali's complexion and hurt she went into a cave for some days and transformed into the fair Gauri ..If I relate dark energy to Kali and light energy to Gauri - can you refute ? You cannot - we are alllimited by what we know - its better to try to understand than ridicule Essay and lecture over Wishing you all a very happy Devi Navaratri The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim |
   
Ballasticmissile
Comedian Username: Ballasticmissile
Post Number: 1347 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 125.99.197.136
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2012 - 01:06 pm: |
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Thikka_sankara:
 Thikka_sankara:get well soon
monne accident ayyindi malli Pawan || YSR|| Indira|| Adi-shankaracharya ||Cleopatra |
   
Thikka_sankara
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Post Number: 2494 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 122.164.170.68
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2012 - 01:03 pm: |
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Ballasticmissile:yevaru yekkada rasaro ee vishayanni cheppandi
Thikka_sankara:Does the above interpretation
Interpretation ante meaning telusaaa
Thikka_sankara:get well soon
Naakonchem thikkundi.... daaaniko lekkundi |
   
Thikka_sankara
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Post Number: 2493 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 122.164.170.68
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2012 - 12:58 pm: |
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Ballasticmissile: ee post chusi nenu notitho kuda navvalekapotunna
pchhhh paaapam.... my saaanubhoothi to you.... navvaleka poyaaavani feel avvaku... roju try cheyy edo oka roju manasaaraa navva galguthaav..... navva leka povadam oka jabbu laantidi... get well soon Naakonchem thikkundi.... daaaniko lekkundi |
   
Ballasticmissile
Comedian Username: Ballasticmissile
Post Number: 1345 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 125.99.197.136
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2012 - 12:57 pm: |
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Gotcha:but the perspective is very good. Its good to see advaced sciences related to hinduism
yevaru yekkada rasaro ee vishayanni cheppandi Pawan || YSR|| Indira|| Adi-shankaracharya ||Cleopatra |
   
Gotcha
Side Hero Username: Gotcha
Post Number: 9372 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 99.24.237.158
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2012 - 12:43 pm: |
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Ballasticmissile:
whats so funny about it? I dont believe it but the perspective is very good. Its good to see advaced sciences related to hinduism This real estate is for sale. |
   
Ballasticmissile
Comedian Username: Ballasticmissile
Post Number: 1343 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 125.99.197.136
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2012 - 12:34 pm: |
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Gotcha: Maha vishnus inhale is blackhole and exhale is big bang.
Thikka_sankara:It is also stated that all the materialistic universes are created by the one exhale of maha Vishnu and destroyed at his one inhale. Multiple points to note here: 1) materialistic universes (we have the concept of anatha koti brahmandaalu) not just one universe. So, when one universe ends, the other starts. So, if you throw a stone at the end of a universe, you are throwing stones at other universes :P 2) All these universes are created by one exhale of maha Vishnu. If you observe the exhale it has a point of origin and the universes from the point of origin are thrown outwards with a force (of exhale) and they seem to be expanding outwards (exhale air and imagine particle motion) 3) And once the inhale starts, all the matter is drawn back (with force) as if everythng is receding back to a point (of origin)
         ee post chusi nenu notitho kuda navvalekapotunna Pawan || YSR|| Indira|| Adi-shankaracharya ||Cleopatra |
   
Gotcha
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Post Number: 9370 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 99.24.237.158
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2012 - 10:37 am: |
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Thikka_sankara:
that was really very interesting perspective. Maha vishnus inhale is blackhole and exhale is big bang. This real estate is for sale. |
   
Pointblank
Comedian Username: Pointblank
Post Number: 1787 Registered: 05-2012 Posted From: 50.131.120.229
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2012 - 03:59 am: |
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how far can ur thoughts go? Cast your vote doesn't mean vote for your Caste. Gajji ni veedandi. Manchini Gelpinchandi. |
   
Thikka_sankara
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Post Number: 2491 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 122.164.25.10
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Gotcha:
b/w aaa post ki single enduku??? any hidden meanings ;) Naakonchem thikkundi.... daaaniko lekkundi |
   
Anand_n
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Post Number: 12316 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.120.83.138
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2012 - 12:40 am: |
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Gandhiguevara:ante manaki theleeka pothe emi ledhu ani meaning aaaa?
Now we are getting into perception and reality It will become a philosophy discussion - and the thread is more of universe and its limits- I was only answering MS and Stig's questions of can the mind comprehend And I am sleepy so next 8 hours as far as I am concerned the universe does not exist We can discuss this some other time when I have more time - wait does time exist?  The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim |
   
Thikka_sankara
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Post Number: 2486 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 122.174.9.69
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2012 - 12:39 am: |
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Gotcha:awesome. R u purohit or a scholar by profession. Related abstract science duch neatly with hinduism
neither, a software kooli in India, just back from a late night implementation. You see, general gaa implementation time lo chukkalu enti anda pinda brahmandaale kanipisthaay, so fresh gaa choosindi cheppaa  Naakonchem thikkundi.... daaaniko lekkundi |
   
Gandhiguevara
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Post Number: 35142 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 98.197.251.182
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Anand_n:Nothing = absence of everything you know ...
ante manaki theleeka pothe emi ledhu ani meaning aaaa? |
   
Gotcha
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Post Number: 9369 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 99.24.237.158
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Thikka_sankara:
awesome. R u purohit or a scholar by profession. Related abstract science duch neatly with hinduism This real estate is for sale. |
   
Anand_n
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Post Number: 12315 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.120.83.138
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2012 - 12:27 am: |
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Gandhiguevara:How? Please explain not exceeding 1000 words
Why would I need 1000 words to explain nothing... Nothing = absence of everything you know ... Neti neti - you arrive at the answer by negating everything you know.. That is the philosophical answer.. If by how you mean how do you experience it , then I think the answer is very scientific..certain chemicals/hormones in the brain can remove your ability to perceive boundaries, separation of self...the same hormones can cause immobilisation without fear..its a defense mechanism to deal with trauma too One shot of these hormones and you are infinite, you are nothing Both of the answers above are on perception/comprehension - not reality(?) of the size of the universe The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim |
   
Thikka_sankara
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Post Number: 2485 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 122.174.9.69
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2012 - 12:14 am: |
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one simple explanation can be this (our schools of thoughts are combinations of ) Isvara, chith (the souls) and achith - the materialistic universe(s). So, you can easily understand the boundaries of both chith and achith and encompassed by Isvara form the parabrahman. It is also stated that all the materialistic universes are created by the one exhale of maha Vishnu and destroyed at his one inhale. Multiple points to note here: 1) materialistic universes (we have the concept of anatha koti brahmandaalu) not just one universe. So, when one universe ends, the other starts. So, if you throw a stone at the end of a universe, you are throwing stones at other universes :P 2) All these universes are created by one exhale of maha Vishnu. If you observe the exhale it has a point of origin and the universes from the point of origin are thrown outwards with a force (of exhale) and they seem to be expanding outwards (exhale air and imagine particle motion) 3) And once the inhale starts, all the matter is drawn back (with force) as if everythng is receding back to a point (of origin) Does the above interpretation ring any bells  Naakonchem thikkundi.... daaaniko lekkundi |
   
Gandhiguevara
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Post Number: 35138 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 98.197.251.182
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Anand_n:Yes
How? Please explain not exceeding 1000 words |
   
Anand_n
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Post Number: 12314 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.120.83.138
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Good read
Mental_sachinodu: can our human minds comprehend the concept of limited or unlimited universe?
Yes
Stig:Can human mind comprehend absolute nothing ??
Yes Limits are needed if you assume a creator and creation. Without these assumed limits you cannot distinguish where the creator ends and creation starts. If you take that need to perceive a creator and creation away , there is only a singularity.That singularity can be all, it can be nothing, all at the same time  The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim |
   
Ballasticmissile
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Post Number: 1341 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 125.99.197.136
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Gamingfan: I will post my views later,if I am free.
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Gamingfan
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Post Number: 5069 Registered: 08-2012 Posted From: 59.93.114.145
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chusss manchi thread miss ayya busy ga vundatam valla ilanti threads ippude veyyala nov lo veyachu ga. I will post my views later,if I am free. Great achievement is usually born of great sacrifice,and is never the result of selfishness. The more we find,the more we lose.The more we know,the more we hurt.The more we care,the more we are sad. If you want a boy to love you for a lifetime, love his heart, not his money.If you want a girl to love you for a lifetime, love her soul, not her body. |
   
Ballasticmissile
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Post Number: 1340 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 125.99.197.136
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Analog:
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Ballasticmissile
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Post Number: 1339 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 125.99.197.136
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Thirtyplus: matter/space might be non existent, but not time
time also created from big bang not even time is present to some undefined extent after big bang Pawan || YSR|| Indira|| Adi-shankaracharya ||Cleopatra |
   
Jujung
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Post Number: 435 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 68.39.255.35
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the bounds of the universe are due to gravity and the limit on speed of light. The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us.- Paul Valery
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Gotcha
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Post Number: 9368 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 99.24.237.158
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maybe it is circular throw and it falls back inuniverse This real estate is for sale. |
   
Gandhiguevara
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Post Number: 35131 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 98.197.251.182
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Mentalodu mentalollandarnee yeskuni mantal puttinchadu thread lo |
   
Ishan
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Post Number: 9709 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 98.201.146.48
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Emc2: do you have it?
I have commentaries on them by sankaracharya and vivekananda. Direct reading of vedas wont be of much help to us because its almost impossible to grasp the subtle meanings. Plenty of sources available online if you want to try. For example http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/rigveda/index.htm Gatti_gunde:itta Universe...physics.....Upanishad......oandavas cholas ante thapparaara
GaGu uncle, how are you? are there any better topics than these?  |
   
Gatti_gunde
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Post Number: 11663 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 173.174.61.237
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Ishan:
Ishan thaatha ...itta Universe...physics.....Upanishad......oandavas cholas ante thapparaara DB ki  MEE abimaananni nenu gundello dhachukunta kani thala ki ekkanivanu - Pawan Kalyan |
   
Emc2
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Post Number: 8897 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 199.107.16.132
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Ishan:Rigveda
do you have it? cherapakura chedevu.
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Ishan
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Post Number: 9708 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 98.201.146.48
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Analog:Rigveda
Nothing beats this when it comes to cosmology and philosophy. Stig: How can we comprehend the concept of Infinity/Nothinghness
Absence of force and matter defines nothingness. |
   
Droid
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Post Number: 34 Registered: 08-2012 Posted From: 205.132.110.2
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Analog:as per rigveda multiple cycles of treta,dwapara,kaliyuga etc happen between two big bangs which is equal to 1 day of brahma
I think they happen during a DAY of brahma all within the same big bang. A big bang is similar to 100 brahma years, after which the cycle starts again..another big bang.. another day..another night and so on |
   
Analog
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Post Number: 2597 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 129.110.242.7
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Emc2:if both happened in different bing bangs,how come dwaraka is still exist and sri lanka is still exist..
ohh nenu clear ga cheppaledu anukunta 1 cycle: Bigbang1, multiple manvantara cycles ,Bigbang2 Each manvantara = kruta+treta+dwapara+kaliyuga 7th manu cycle lo manam unte bigbang event ayyaka multiple dwapara,kaliyugas vachi vundali kada NenoDi neeve gelichi... nee gelupu naadani thalachi... raagaalu ranjilu roje raaji rammanTi |
   
Emc2
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Post Number: 8894 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 199.107.16.132
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Analog:as per rigveda multiple cycles of treta,dwapara,kaliyuga etc happen between two big bangs which is equal to 1 day of brahma
that is wrong, if both happened in different bing bangs,how come dwaraka is still exist and sri lanka is still exist.. or 2 bing bangs lo same India same places create ayi undali,which is not right.. cherapakura chedevu.
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Thirtyplus
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Post Number: 508 Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 68.80.48.18
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Analog:billions of years (Solar years) of non-existence.
matter/space might be non existent, but not time TDP - TODU DONGALA PARTY
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Stig
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Post Number: 9375 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 173.224.119.174
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@ ISHAN : How can we comprehend the concept of Infinity/Nothinghness ... deeniki kooda answer seppeyandi !! --- http://savethering.org/ |
   
Buduguuu
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Post Number: 8503 Registered: 01-2012 Posted From: 199.249.176.251
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Simba:Evening DB meet vacchey... anni questions ki answer chepta. IN fact, rendu rounds veste, Universe chivari daaka velli ravacchu
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Thirtyplus
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Post Number: 507 Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 68.80.48.18
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looks like time is only real/infinite all others exist / don't exist at one time or other. now the question is when did alllllllllll this start? billion billion years ago? billion billion billion billion years ago? billion billion billion billion billion billion years ago? billion billion billion billion billion billion billion billion billion billion billion billion yeasr ago? TDP - TODU DONGALA PARTY
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Analog
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Post Number: 2595 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 129.110.242.7
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Ishan:nothing will happen to it until it comes in the path of expanding universe.
kinda link lo exact ga ide mention chesaru , source Rigveda ata The universe is considered to constantly expand since creation and disappear into a thin haze after billions of years.[citation needed] An alternate view is that the universe begins to contract after reaching its maximum expansion limits until it disappears into a fraction of a millimeter.[citation needed] The creation begins anew after billions of years (Solar years) of non-existence. NenoDi neeve gelichi... nee gelupu naadani thalachi... raagaalu ranjilu roje raaji rammanTi |
   
Last_avataar
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Post Number: 5 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 12.10.219.226
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Destruction and creation is an eternal process with in one creation cycle. As we see creation of stars and galaxies and destruction of them by super massive black holes. |
   
Ishan
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Post Number: 9707 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 98.201.146.48
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Mental_sachinodu:lets imagine we have reached the end of the universe and threw a stone. what happens to it? if it goes forward, it means universe did not end, and if it stops there, something must be stopping it. in that case, some matter still exists!!
Universe ends where the force ends, meaning the matter is not acted upon by any force like gravity or centripetal force of the big-bang (if you believe in big-bang, that is). So, if you reach to that point and throw a stone, nothing will happen to it until it comes in the path of expanding universe. Of course this explanation premises that universe is defined as an entity possessing force and matter. Beyond force and matter nothing exists unless there is another universe.  |
   
Analog
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Post Number: 2593 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 129.110.242.7
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Emc2:yuga is with in the one big bang..treta,dwapara,kaliyuga and so on all happend in one big bang,may be with in the some 10 of millions of years time frame..
as per rigveda multiple cycles of treta,dwapara,kaliyuga etc happen between two big bangs which is equal to 1 day of brahma NenoDi neeve gelichi... nee gelupu naadani thalachi... raagaalu ranjilu roje raaji rammanTi |
   
Emc2
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Analog:The puranic view asserts that the universe is created, destroyed, and re-created in an eternally repetitive series of cycles. In Hindu cosmology, a universe endures for about 4,320,000,000 years (one day of Brahma, the creator or kalpa) and is then destroyed by fire or water elements. At this point, Brahma rests for one night, just as long as the day. This process, named pralaya (Cataclysm), repeats for 100 Brahma years (311 Trillion, 40 Billion Human Years) that represents Brahma's lifespan. Brahma is regarded as a manifestation of Brahman as the creator. We are currently[when?] believed to be in the 51st year of the present Brahma and so about 156 trillion years have elapsed since He was born as Brahma. After Brahma's "death", it is necessary that another 100 Brahma years (311 Trillion, 40 Billion Years) pass until a new Brahma is born and the whole creation begins anew. This process is repeated again and again, forever. Brahma's day is divided in one thousand cycles (Maha Yuga, or the Great Year). Maha Yuga, during which life, including the human race appears and then disappears, has 71 divisions, each made of 14 Manvantara (1000) years. Each Maha Yuga lasts for 4,320,000 years. Manvantara is Manu's cycle, the one who gives birth and governs the human race.
i am out,burra heating..
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Analog
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Post Number: 2592 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 129.110.242.7
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Again A day of Brahma is equal to 14 manvantaras http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manvantara current manu is vaivasvatha NenoDi neeve gelichi... nee gelupu naadani thalachi... raagaalu ranjilu roje raaji rammanTi |
   
Analog
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Post Number: 2591 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 129.110.242.7
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Droid:I am an atheist, but this is interesting. As per Hindu mythology or beliefs, the whole concept of yugas is a cycle. Its bound to repeat after every N number of yrs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_cosmology The puranic view asserts that the universe is created, destroyed, and re-created in an eternally repetitive series of cycles. In Hindu cosmology, a universe endures for about 4,320,000,000 years (one day of Brahma, the creator or kalpa) and is then destroyed by fire or water elements. At this point, Brahma rests for one night, just as long as the day. This process, named pralaya (Cataclysm), repeats for 100 Brahma years (311 Trillion, 40 Billion Human Years) that represents Brahma's lifespan. Brahma is regarded as a manifestation of Brahman as the creator. We are currently[when?] believed to be in the 51st year of the present Brahma and so about 156 trillion years have elapsed since He was born as Brahma. After Brahma's "death", it is necessary that another 100 Brahma years (311 Trillion, 40 Billion Years) pass until a new Brahma is born and the whole creation begins anew. This process is repeated again and again, forever. Brahma's day is divided in one thousand cycles (Maha Yuga, or the Great Year). Maha Yuga, during which life, including the human race appears and then disappears, has 71 divisions, each made of 14 Manvantara (1000) years. Each Maha Yuga lasts for 4,320,000 years. Manvantara is Manu's cycle, the one who gives birth and governs the human race. NenoDi neeve gelichi... nee gelupu naadani thalachi... raagaalu ranjilu roje raaji rammanTi |
   
Emc2
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Post Number: 8892 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 71.246.229.243
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Alochinchu:ante multiple universes form ayinaya
ya there are definetly parallel universes.. but but, for suppose any dying star or galaxy it suks out the all energy from surrounding stars or galaxies, then it collapses into its own mass and give the birth for super nova,big bang and new stars etc... its a cycle,so at present big bang to happen how many times the big bang happened like this.. cherapakura chedevu.
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Emc2
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Post Number: 8890 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 71.246.229.243
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Alochinchu: burra pothondhi..
i am with you,the more i think the more my burr pagiling.. so lets stop it here.. cherapakura chedevu.
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Alochinchu
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Post Number: 489 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 65.51.27.62
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Emc2:but big bangs happen once in a every billions of trillions of years i think..
adhi emiti universe puttindhe big bang nunchi antunte.. ante multiple universes form ayinaya.. |
   
Droid
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Post Number: 32 Registered: 08-2012 Posted From: 205.132.110.2
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when all ENDS, may be they end as a blackhole, and when blackholes start eating other blackholes everything is one BIG blackhole and time for another big bang ;) |
   
Alochinchu
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Post Number: 488 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 65.51.27.62
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Emc2:how many cycles happened so far like this?.....
hmm.. interesting.. burra pothondhi.. endhuke le hayiga ee unna chinna burra tho bujji bhoomi varaku alochinchukoni gadipeyatame.. |
   
Emc2
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Post Number: 8887 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 71.246.229.243
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Droid: yugas is a cycle
yuga is with in the one big bang..treta,dwapara,kaliyuga and so on all happend in one big bang,may be with in the some 10 of millions of years time frame.. there is no complete wipe out of universe and matter and restart.. but big bangs happen once in a every billions of trillions of years i think.. cherapakura chedevu.
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Droid
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Post Number: 31 Registered: 08-2012 Posted From: 205.132.110.2
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Emc2:what is there before big bang.. i mean there might be a black hole,which is come from another stars and so on... there might be a universe and galaxy planets before this big bang and how many cycles happened so far like this?.....
I am an atheist, but this is interesting. As per Hindu mythology or beliefs, the whole concept of yugas is a cycle. Its bound to repeat after every N number of yrs. |
   
Alochinchu
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Post Number: 482 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 65.51.27.62
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Jaankayalu_chips:what is the center of universe ani adugutunava annai?
kadhu.. hyd question is.. if people saying big bang created the universe thus created space ayithe.. where did big bang took place ani? |
   
Emc2
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Mrhyderabad:where did the big bang took place?
what is there before big bang.. i mean there might be a black hole,which is come from another stars and so on... there might be a universe and galaxy planets before this big bang and how many cycles happened so far like this?..... cherapakura chedevu.
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Emc2
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Post Number: 8884 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 199.107.16.132
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universe is infinite, if you cannot see beyond some point that doesn't mean nothing exist.. there may be a dark matter which is not yet converted into energy.. cherapakura chedevu.
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Jaankayalu_chips
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Mrhyderabad:u may be right. but the question still remains the same - where did the big bang took place?
what is the center of universe ani adugutunava annai? kangaaru padakandi....chart lo chusaanu |
   
Kish
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Alochinchu
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Post Number: 478 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 65.51.27.62
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Humpty_dumpty:accoring to C.Nolan,
podhune veedu gurthu vachadu.. about layers in dreams.. i got one last night and the other one some time ago.. meeku ila vachi undachu.. what i mean to say is kala/dream linear kadhu ani. 1. nenu and inkondharu edho concert/theater ki veluthunaamu. parking dhagirilo lekapothe konchemu dhooramu ga park chesa velle mandhu visually picturized where i parked ani.. three to four aisles of parking was full and there is a road as a divider and after that there is a small parking where i parked.. kala is still continuing.. went to theater watched the show.. we came back to the parking lot.. i do not see the car i parked.. andharu sariga gurthu thechuko annaru.. appudu paina cheppinatlu viaually picturize chesukundhi gurthu vachindi.. ante kalalo jarigina incidents ni rewind cheyagalugu thunamu.. idhi maree variety 2. kalalo edho story nadustundhi .. 1st kalalo nidhrapothunanu ... appudu 1st kalalo nidrapothunappudu kala kantunaanu.. kalalo kala ayyipoyina tharuvatha 1st kalalo unnappudu melukoni emiti ee kala (2nd) inthaku mundhu same vachindhe anukunaanu.. after 1st kala ayyipoyi tharuvatha ee kalala vyavaram antha gurthu vachindhi.. you won't believe it 2nd kala inthaka mundhu vachindhi ani 1st kalalo anukundhi nijamugane inthaka mundhu vachindhi.. man.. this mind is complex.. ika mee opika..  |
   
Alochinchu
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Post Number: 477 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 65.51.27.62
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interesting topic.. i always wonder about the space.. mental.. we have very common thoughts.. i always feel empty of not knowing the boundary of universe.. travelling thousands of ligt years is heck of thought alantidhi ekkada end avudho theliyatledhante .. ento.. |
   
Nbkfan
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No. Dont treat universe as an object but as an amalgam of matter and space. NBK/YSJ
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Droid
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Ballasticmissile:travelling from one universe to other is possible though theoretically but cannot be achived by any being...as we approch to singularity and may be torn away
I read somewhere recently, speed of light can be achieved or even crossed theoretically. As the speed increases, the mass has to decrease, so as the "spaceship" accelerates, if it can reach a mass of zero, a speed of infinity can be achieved. vinataaniki super undi. I think, the only thing that can really achieve that speed is our thoughts. Human brain is amazing  |
   
Ballasticmissile
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Post Number: 1338 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 125.99.197.136
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Droid:it might just be theoretical, but alternate (parallel) universe concept is amazing. If only we can travel from one to the other ;)
travelling from one universe to other is possible though theoretically but cannot be achived by any being...as we approch to singularity and may be torn away Pawan || YSR|| Indira|| Adi-shankaracharya ||Cleopatra |
   
Batthar_bindaas
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Simba:Evening DB meet vacchey... anni questions ki answer chepta. IN fact, rendu rounds veste, Universe chivari daaka velli ravacchu
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Droid
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universe is truly unlimited anukunta (unlike AT&T) it might just be theoretical, but alternate (parallel) universe concept is amazing. If only we can travel from one to the other ;) |
   
Droid
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Diviseema:if there is one more sun and set of planets will it come under our universe. i dont think so.
everything will come under universe inka timezone laantivi relative to their sun (or star) |
   
Masularex
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divi annai ki caste n politics bestu! rendu mudu linlu chadavagaane thala girrunna thirigindi! oggey sodara! |
   
Diviseema
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what dose our universe means. 1st clarify that. what we named as universe. everything that exists ? if there is one more sun and set of planets will it come under our universe. i dont think so. they have there own time zone. the places which comes under our timezone (universe timezone ) is our universe. basing on our sun we have time on mars which can be related to earths. may be some yrs back from us. like US is few hrs back to india. but for a planet revolving around some other sun we cannot have a time related to us. just my random thought. funny ga vunte voggeyandi, babu thread ki potha. Oka Jagan Fan http://i.imgur.com/w4y3c.jpg |
   
Ballasticmissile
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Post Number: 1336 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 125.99.197.136
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Diviseema: may be we have one more universe and one more solar system. as of now our universe means the galaxy and the planets revolving around our sun.
can u elaborate this uncle  Pawan || YSR|| Indira|| Adi-shankaracharya ||Cleopatra |
   
Ballasticmissile
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Jaankayalu_chips: "where" doesnt apply to big bang because...space was manifested by big bang
space puttinde bigbang nunchi.... inka bigbang space lo puttatamenti.... Pawan || YSR|| Indira|| Adi-shankaracharya ||Cleopatra |
   
Diviseema
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yes may be we have one more universe and one more solar system. as of now our universe means the galaxy and the planets revolving around our sun. Oka Jagan Fan http://i.imgur.com/w4y3c.jpg |
   
Ballasticmissile
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Mental_sachinodu:well according to string theory, there is no specific number of constant dimensions, but for the purpose of proposing a consistent quantam theory, a minimalist requirement is that there should be 26 dimensions for bosonic string, and 10 for super string. a 11 dimensional space time theory or rather the popular M theory exists as a special case of string theory. frankly, 4 dimensions is not a very complicated mathematical or scientific model to decode. 4 dimensions does not guarantee an infinite system.
idigo nenu cheppedi 4 dimentins which are not hidden hidden dimentions ayite string theory vastundi circled and empirical dimensions.... also called wraped dimensions Pawan || YSR|| Indira|| Adi-shankaracharya ||Cleopatra |
   
Raman
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I think no limit Still big bangs might be happening far far away while some new worlds are getting created , some of the old worlds are swallowed by time & black holes |
   
Mental_sachinodu
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Pulibongaram:aakali esinappudu edoti thinaali ane avidea pirst elaa vachindi antaaru?
there is no first in this case, each species is inborn with certain instincts. life instincts like hunger, thirst, sex are part of many species instincts. whether there is an external stimuli or not, these instincts or inborn. only certain external stimuli can make these instincts active. these instincts are futher categorized. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada |
   
Humpty_dumpty
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Pulibongaram:aakali esinappudu edoti thinaali ane avidea pirst elaa vachindi antaaru?
when the baby is in the womb, baby is fed through mom so mom implants the need to eat accoring to C.Nolan, An idea is like a parasite. you can either build cities or become a glutton |
   
Truelies
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Pulibongaram:aakali esinappudu edoti thinaali ane avidea pirst elaa vachindi antaaru?
opp. s3x tho s3x cheyyali ani avidea pirst eppudu vachindo...appude thinali anna idea kooda vachindi anta...
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Mrhyderabad
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Pulibongaram:aakali esinappudu edoti thinaali ane avidea pirst elaa vachindi antaaru?
interesting question Don't say you don't have enough time. You have exactly the same number of hours per day that were given to Helen Keller, Pasteur, Michaelangelo, Mother Teresea, Leonardo da Vinci, Thomas Jefferson, and Albert Einstein |
   
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aakali esinappudu edoti thinaali ane avidea pirst elaa vachindi antaaru? |
   
Mental_sachinodu
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Vjavasi:There is no infinite......universe is just ONE
interestingly put!! the cosmic egg concept from various cultures deal with this singularity of the universe. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada |
   
Mrhyderabad
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Jaankayalu_chips:space was manifested by big bang
u may be right. but the question still remains the same - where did the big bang took place? universe started expanding in all directions from that point antaaru kadaa. so if there is no space how can universe expand? as m_s asked, what is outside the universe? there has to be some room for anything to expand, right? Don't say you don't have enough time. You have exactly the same number of hours per day that were given to Helen Keller, Pasteur, Michaelangelo, Mother Teresea, Leonardo da Vinci, Thomas Jefferson, and Albert Einstein |
   
Vjavasi
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large,small are just projection of mind...even a boundary is the idea of mind...when we are awake only ONE exist.....when we sleep even that ONE doesn't exist |
   
Mental_sachinodu
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Mrhyderabad:I have even more basic doubt.. they say all of this started from big bang. But where did that big bang took place? In space? Where did that space come from? Who created the space?
its a not a basic doubt, its a foundational question of cosmological philosophy and physics. space and time are two realms we humans still struggling to understand. some physicists believe time is real, while some believe it is an illusion in the sense that there is no direction of time. i guess physicists turn to philosophy in these matters  the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada |
   
Katthi
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Universe is non tangeble Mannam unnadi anukendi edi ledu Papi gadu post este katthi la digali
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Vjavasi
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There is no infinite......universe is just ONE |
   
Mrhyderabad
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Simba:Evening DB meet vacchey...
i thought u, bunty, sap kurrodu not going.. Don't say you don't have enough time. You have exactly the same number of hours per day that were given to Helen Keller, Pasteur, Michaelangelo, Mother Teresea, Leonardo da Vinci, Thomas Jefferson, and Albert Einstein |
   
Jaankayalu_chips
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Mrhyderabad:I have even more basic doubt.. they say all of this started from big bang. But where did that big bang took place? In space? Where did that space come from? Who created the space?
"where" doesnt apply to big bang because...space was manifested by big bang kangaaru padakandi....chart lo chusaanu |
   
Stig
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Can human mind comprehend absolute nothing ?? --- http://savethering.org/ |
   
J__the_heartist
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Simba:rendu rounds veste, Universe chivari daaka velli ravacchu
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J__the_heartist
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Mrhyderabad: they say all of this started from big bang. But where did that big bang took place?
Universe Didn't started from Big bang....All Our Galaxies are.... Univers , Alpha, Omega Creator evaro vallane manam devudu antam.... So Here Starts the Topic of GOD....Where Science ends GOD Takes Birth.... |
   
Chillarodu
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Ballasticmissile:universe putti yennellu ayindo telusa....
ok.. aa number mari peddaga vunte.. oka sunna thagginchuko  A diamond with a flaw is better than a common stone that is perfect. |
   
Simba
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Mrhyderabad:I have even more basic doubt.. they say all of this started from big bang. But where did that big bang took place? In space? Where did that space come from? Who created the space?
Evening DB meet vacchey... anni questions ki answer chepta. IN fact, rendu rounds veste, Universe chivari daaka velli ravacchu  |
   
Mental_sachinodu
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Jaankayalu_chips:"boundary" doesnt apply to universe because everything that is existing is collectively called universe
yes, philosophically accepted. but scientifically still intriguing question, the how!! the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada |
   
Mental_sachinodu
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Ballasticmissile:universe is a 4 dimentional sphere acc to the mathematical certinity which is only thing we can do.. w.r.t theories for proofs
well according to string theory, there is no specific number of constant dimensions, but for the purpose of proposing a consistent quantam theory, a minimalist requirement is that there should be 26 dimensions for bosonic string, and 10 for super string. a 11 dimensional space time theory or rather the popular M theory exists as a special case of string theory. frankly, 4 dimensions is not a very complicated mathematical or scientific model to decode. 4 dimensions does not guarantee an infinite system. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada |
   
Mrhyderabad
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Mental_sachinodu:boundaries of the universe - freaking dilemma.
ilaantivi anni think chesi burra heat ekki povadam tappa naa lanti metta burra laki waste ani think cheyyadam maanesaa how can universe be infinite? what does infinite mean (beyond the definition)... i think we toss 'infinite' term wherever we can't answer/think. I have even more basic doubt.. they say all of this started from big bang. But where did that big bang took place? In space? Where did that space come from? Who created the space? Don't say you don't have enough time. You have exactly the same number of hours per day that were given to Helen Keller, Pasteur, Michaelangelo, Mother Teresea, Leonardo da Vinci, Thomas Jefferson, and Albert Einstein |
   
Jaankayalu_chips
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"boundary" doesnt apply to universe because everything that is existing is collectively called universe kangaaru padakandi....chart lo chusaanu |
   
Ballasticmissile
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Chillarodu:100 billion years
universe putti yennellu ayindo telusa.... Pawan || YSR|| Indira|| Adi-shankaracharya ||Cleopatra |
   
Chillarodu
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Mental_sachinodu:
It is neither finite or infinite.. We can't comprehend with our mind .. yet. If you travel in a straight line for say 100 billion years you will end up where you started. I can't explain how it is possible though.. A diamond with a flaw is better than a common stone that is perfect. |
   
Ballasticmissile
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Mental_sachinodu:
universe is a 4 dimentional sphere acc to the mathematical certinity which is only thing we can do.. w.r.t theories for proofs Pawan || YSR|| Indira|| Adi-shankaracharya ||Cleopatra |
   
Mental_sachinodu
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Rebel:Universe is Infinity
yes, but to imagine something that is infinite.. i just cant wrap my head around it, other than just settle that it is infinite.  the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada |
   
J__the_heartist
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Ittanti Topics paina disco ettandi saami Chadavadaniki Interest vuntadi.... Come on Gusa Gusa.... |
   
Gandhiguevara
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Bothigaa pani lenatlundhi aapice lo...nee pakka nodi dippa meeda okkati peeku...evening varaku time pass avudhi |
   
Rebel
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Universe is Infinity |
   
Mental_sachinodu
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lets imagine we have reached the end of the universe and threw a stone. what happens to it? if it goes forward, it means universe did not end, and if it stops there, something must be stopping it. in that case, some matter still exists!! can our human minds comprehend the concept of limited or unlimited universe? to me it like imagining a square with no ends, just cant imagine it!! boundaries of the universe - freaking dilemma. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada |