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Competition ani manam anukovachu .. cartelization ki corporates eppudu siddame ..

since telecom has been brought into picture - what happened in 2G .. they formed a syndicate .. took licenses for almost-free prices and collectively robbed govt ..

walmart and other big retailers will play a slightly different game .. they have deep or rather very deep pockets .. their goal will be, in long terms say 10-15 years, capture the entire market .. they may even stand to loose for the first 4-5 years to throw the existing players and then stand to dictate the entire producer-consumer chain .. the govt should have convincing answers for these questions before it released the note in a hurry ..
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Mental_sachinodu:

already three times seppa, its not about MNCs. its about how they can screw us, if they arent handled effectively. my point in on the lack of governance, which can kill ecosystem.




What kind of ecosystem are you talking annai?

Where the Govt has a monopoly on the farmer's produce? Where the farmer throws his hard work on the road because he has to sell for a loss?
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Mental_sachinodu:

when they have enough political clout. there can be many competitors, but who ever can control politicians can rob.




Rob enti mastaru. Walmart lo konu lekapothe champesta antunnara evaranna? Politician ni control chestaru, consumer ni evaru control chestaru? The consumer always has the option not to buy if he does not like the product.

Zulu:

Chese chillara vyaparam ki auto, telecom tho comparsionaa? inka nayam nuclear deal theledhu picture loki




Auto sector, Telecom or Retail. Situation same. FDI mundu no competition. Monopoly with Govt or very few players. We saw that FDI introduced competition in both auto, and telecom sectors.
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Customer usability, security measures etc compare cheyali anna multiple players undali, competition undali. One or two indian companies unte saripotundaa?

Idi varaku BSNL service bagokapothe cheppukune dikku ledu. Ippudu, we have multiple options to choose from.

The key is competition. Will services get better with it, or with the lack of it? Competition is bad for the consumer ante meeru kotha economics theory kanipettinatte.



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you are completely off my point. im not taking about which is a better option, but how introducing a heavy wieght into indian economics is making indian people feel.

already three times seppa, its not about MNCs. its about how they can screw us, if they arent handled effectively. my point in on the lack of governance, which can kill ecosystem.
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Mental_sachinodu:

telecom /auto sectors you think made a clinical good to indian eco system, yes they generated money, but in my view they have created their own problems. ledhu antha bagane undhi ani argue chesthe, nenu emi cheppalenu. you can compare infrastructure between india and any country that generates the same amount of revenue from these two sectors, and see how they service in terms of customer usability and security measures is. again, im not saying MNCs are the problem.




Customer usability, security measures etc compare cheyali anna multiple players undali, competition undali. One or two indian companies unte saripotundaa?

Idi varaku BSNL service bagokapothe cheppukune dikku ledu. Ippudu, we have multiple options to choose from.

The key is competition. Will services get better with it, or with the lack of it? Competition is bad for the consumer ante meeru kotha economics theory kanipettinatte.
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Indiarocks:

Since you brought this up, oka company/organization ki rob cheyagala power eppudu vastundi? When there is competition or, when there is not any?




when they have enough political clout. there can be many competitors, but who ever can control politicians can rob. again, local MNCs cheyaleva ante cheyagalavu, why add one more dacoit to the system, a dacoit who could be more powerful than anyone else, anedhi argument.

its hardly about free economics from my POV.
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Zulu:

Chese chillara vyaparam ki auto, telecom tho comparsionaa




its like saying IF U introduce TAXI, 50 autowallahs gets effected
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Chese chillara vyaparam ki auto, telecom tho comparsionaa? inka nayam nuclear deal theledhu picture loki
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Indiarocks:

One main point that needs to be noted - FDI will only allow foreign players to COMPETE with Indian players. The same way as in the Auto, or Telecom sectors. If the avg Indian feels that they will rob him, nobody is forcing him to buy from Walmart.

And most importantly, when individual states have all the power to stop FDI, all the fuss is pure politics.




telecom /auto sectors you think made a clinical good to indian eco system, yes they generated money, but in my view they have created their own problems. ledhu antha bagane undhi ani argue chesthe, nenu emi cheppalenu. you can compare infrastructure between india and any country that generates the same amount of revenue from these two sectors, and see how they service in terms of customer usability and security measures is. again, im not saying MNCs are the problem.

inga states gurinchi ante, do you think state governments are any diffrent from central?
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Mental_sachinodu:

Im pro FDI in general, but without enough security, it will just be a license to rob




Since you brought this up, oka company/organization ki rob cheyagala power eppudu vastundi? When there is competition or, when there is not any?
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Mental_sachinodu:

argument konchem weak undhi mee side, there is a lack of trust from most people on MNCs in general and forieng MNC's specially.

People feel that our politicians are not making policies for the betterment of people, and are making policies to make a buck for themselves.

Now, considering that our legal or political process isnt working to its strength, is it wise to get into an area without enough secury policies in place.

local MNCs damage cheyava ani malli argument cheyavachu, but from what India experienced so far, all business and political entity is corrupt, why bring a new enemy into the system, when we cant manage the ones we already have.

without getting into the arbitary argument that it is a natural correction, entha mandhiki confidence undaali ee policy meeedha?

now, Im pro FDI in general, but without enough security, it will just be a license to rob . there is a valid point to it.




Apply the same argument to the telecom sector. How was it when we had only BSNL. How is it today?

Apply the same to the auto sector. How was it before opening it to foreign companies, how is it today?

Lack of trust on foreign MNCs, India's sovereignty, swadeshi, neo-imperialism, selling India to USA - Ivanni already vinnamu, 1991 lone.

One main point that needs to be noted - FDI will only allow foreign players to COMPETE with Indian players. The same way as in the Auto, or Telecom sectors. If the avg Indian feels that they will rob him, nobody is forcing him to buy from Walmart.

And most importantly, when individual states have all the power to stop FDI, all the fuss is pure politics.
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IR bro,
argument konchem weak undhi mee side, there is a lack of trust from most people on MNCs in general and forieng MNC's specially.

People feel that our politicians are not making policies for the betterment of people, and are making policies to make a buck for themselves.

Now, considering that our legal or political process isnt working to its strength, is it wise to get into an area without enough secury policies in place.

local MNCs damage cheyava ani malli argument cheyavachu, but from what India experienced so far, all business and political entity is corrupt, why bring a new enemy into the system, when we cant manage the ones we already have.

without getting into the arbitary argument that it is a natural correction, entha mandhiki confidence undaali ee policy meeedha?

now, Im pro FDI in general, but without enough security, it will just be a license to rob . there is a valid point to it.
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Zulu:

walmart gadu Mps ni konesi untadu..ippudu cheppe limits..rules..thokkalo city outskirts edatharu lanti rules kooda mellaga marpistharu..thats what walmart is notorious for..

deniel lo bathukutham ante mee kharma..just because the party you hate is takingup the issue..doesnt make the issue trivial..




So only Walmart can bribe MPs. Not Reliance, not Tatas etc. Or did our MPs take an oath to take bribes only from Walmart, but not from Indian MNCs?

And currently Walmart is not giving Cong, and BJP donations in the crores. Tata, Reliance, Bharti etc are.

Getafix:

MNCs will definitely screw desam




By MNCs you mean Tatas, Reliance, Infy etc, or only foreign MNCs?
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Dreamcatcher:

mana society ni manam protect chesukuntey tappenti rao gaaru?




Global market rojulu ivi.. everybody has to play a fair game kada.. manam vere markets lo enter avuthu mana markets close jesthe - we are getting undue adv.. football lo offisides type.

MNCs will definitely screw desam.UC episode is exception but US lo kuda MNCs envt ni kampu jeyyatam lantivi jesayi kada.. these guys have learnt from those episodes and put proper laws in place.. manam kuda inko 10 yrs or 20 yrs taruvatha - US lage laws set jesukuntam ane hope tho mundukellatame..
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Getafix:

ee protectionist arguments thone inthakalam aaparu FDI ni..




mana society ni manam protect chesukuntey tappenti rao gaaru? Bhopal Union Carbide example is enough to show how MNCs treat desam. On top of it, our corrupt politicians never look after the good of the society anyway. Look at what Coke and Pepsi did to water resources in desam...they will easily getaway with that kind of stuff in desam as there are never laws/oversight (like in US) to monitor their activities.
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walmart gadu Mps ni konesi untadu..ippudu cheppe limits..rules..thokkalo city outskirts edatharu lanti rules kooda mellaga marpistharu..thats what walmart is notorious for..

deniel lo bathukutham ante mee kharma..just because the party you hate is takingup the issue..doesnt make the issue trivial..
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http://www.rediff.com/business/column/column-forget-small-re tailers-can-our-govt-stand-up-to-walmart/20120924.htm

spreading fears? the effing govt doesnt even have numbers to back up a policy decision that affects more than 40 million jobs .. and yet for a rotten crumb of bread .. we nod heads and sing paeans .. shameful indeed?
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Come elections, ppl will answer who is speaking nonsense and is selling their livelihoods for a package .. and all trash will go along in that package ..
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Last time we heard nonsense was in 1991, same douche bags opposing reform.

Now they themselves claim that it "WAS" in their manifesto.

Anti-corruption taken up by Anna Hazare
Black money taken up by Ramdev

Nothing left to make noise. So talk nonsense, spread fears on FDI and try to be in the news.


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One crumb of bread and busy chewing it .. spewing nonsense ..
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4cr loss of jobs is a concrete, well researched number...LOL..
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Douche bags supporting FDI in retail dont talk any concrete figures about jobs lost or created .. investments expected and how much GDP growth .. nothing .. one night you have a dream/nightmare and do crap that come in ...
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price restrict anedi lene ledu.. commodity transfer between different markets is restricted - yes. A farmer always has a choice of selling his produce at higher margin than govt fixed price in a given market.. kakapothe better price kosam different market ellali antene kudardu..I think this needs to be relaxed to certain extent as this is being abused by elected bodies and govt service agents.

Lets not get into education subsidies when we are talking about farmers and agriculture.

Taxes are collected from farmers because they are the ones who are going to use MY's facilities.. its similar to - people who use toll road will pay toll and other who dont use - they will not. Its diff matter if the facilities provided at MY's are not upto the standards.
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Getafix:

babai.. aa restrictions ekkadayina untai - those are put to avoid artificial inflation of demand



Getafix:

Taxes need to be collected to pay for the storage facilities MY provides else who will pay for them? Software engineers nunchi tax collect chesi susbsidies provide chesthara? Govt is respnsible for all sections of citizens and it has more responsibility towards weaker sections.




Software engineer ki low price ki food ravali ani Govt farmer ki kaneesam 10% profit margin kooda ivvakunda price restrict cheyacha, malli daani meeda taxes etc veyacha?

Where he can sell annadi restrict cheyacha?

Software engg can study in subsidized engg college and can get 20%, 30% hike annually. Malli hike %age inflation kante ekkuva undali.

Even Govt employees get DA based on inflation. Is the Govt revising support price every yr based on inflation?

Idem nyayam?
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Why wouldn't that be the case in desam too? In fact, if you look at the number of families that depend on mom-n-pop type stores in desam for livelyhood is many folds compared to US. It will be that much more damaging to the fabric of the neighborhood.




ee protectionist arguments thone inthakalam aaparu FDI ni.. now its time that we open our doors for FDI. Mana consumer base is too huge to ignore for foreign companies and our consumers are too eager to shop at walmarts et al.. so both sides nunchi interest undhi..so it had to happen.
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Indiarocks:

Govt totally controls movement of produce even from one district to other. Inka farmer ki freedom ekkada undi to sell to private dealers? Geographical restrictions pettaka dealers higher price enduku istaru?




babai.. aa restrictions ekkadayina untai - those are put to avoid artificial inflation of demand. 30 kms dooram lo unna town market lo ammukoleni farmers unnaru desam lo due to plethora of reasons..ee geo restrictions teesesthe inka chinna farmers suicides triple ayithai and big players ki matrame benefit avuddi.. classic case of rich gets richer and poor gets poorer.


Taxes need to be collected to pay for the storage facilities MY provides else who will pay for them? Software engineers nunchi tax collect chesi susbsidies provide chesthara? Govt is respnsible for all sections of citizens and it has more responsibility towards weaker sections.

lets not get on govt's case if there is a abuse of power and facilities in MY's..if elected bodies and appointed govt service agents are not doing what they are supposed to then its failure on part of us not the system.. anthe gani govt anabade entity ni blame chesthe em kaadu..

Bottom line - as long as people in the system are not held accountable, there wont be much change in farmers's lives regardless of FDI.

Note - govt ante political party run chese govt ani kaadu-- oka regulatory body perspective lo talking.
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Walmart ki US lo unna major complaint 'mom-n-pop stores go belly up when walmart comes into the neighborhood'. Why wouldn't that be the case in desam too? In fact, if you look at the number of families that depend on mom-n-pop type stores in desam for livelyhood is many folds compared to US. It will be that much more damaging to the fabric of the neighborhood.



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Hyd or even Vijayawada, even for wholesale, Walmart could open only on the city outskirts. Never in the middle of the city.

Nobody in India will drive even 5km for veggies. 5km drive in the US takes 3min, in India it can take an hour.




This is only one of the reasons. Indian market is different from that of the US.
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Walmart ki US lo unna major complaint 'mom-n-pop stores go belly up when walmart comes into the neighborhood'. Why wouldn't that be the case in desam too? In fact, if you look at the number of families that depend on mom-n-pop type stores in desam for livelyhood is many folds compared to US. It will be that much more damaging to the fabric of the neighborhood.
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The government has fixed minimum support prices for certain agricultural products. Farmers also have the option to sell their produce to private dealers if they stand to get a better profit.




Govt totally controls movement of produce even from one district to other. Inka farmer ki freedom ekkada undi to sell to private dealers? Geographical restrictions pettaka dealers higher price enduku istaru?

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market yard control ante? operations aa.. obviously gvt agencies control chesthai.. daniki monopolising ki link enti?




Marketyard Govt enduku control cheyali? Marketyard chairman gaa evaru untunnaru, chamchas to MLAs from Congress, TDP etc. Govt 1500 support price ante veellu beralu aadatharu. 1500 ichamu ani raaskuni 200-300 nokkutharu.

And do you know that taxes on agri produce in AP are one of the highest in India? Farmer is taxed to sell.

Asalu Govt minimum support price lo farmer ki profit margin ekkada undi? Is the Govt revising support price every time it increases fertilizer price etc?
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India lo farmer produce ki price decide chestundi evaru?





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Crop-wise and Market-wise Prices

The prices of agricultural commodities are usually determined by market factors of demand and supply. If there are many farmers producing the same commodity then they will fetch a lesser price for their produce. If there is great demand from consumers for a certain commodity then farmers can expect to get a higher price. These prices keep changing daily. Other factors that determine the price of the product are its quality, yield and pest free status. Climatic conditions, international prices, cost of production and new laws may also affect the prices of agricultural commodities. The price at different markets may be different. The government has fixed minimum support prices for certain agricultural products. Farmers also have the option to sell their produce to private dealers if they stand to get a better profit.





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For commodities not covered under PSS, the government arranges for market intervention on specific request from the States for a specific quantity at a mutually agreed price. The losses, if any, are borne by the Centre and State on a 50:50 basis.




PSS - price support scheme.




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Marketyards control chestundi evaru?




market yard control ante? operations aa.. obviously gvt agencies control chesthai.. daniki monopolising ki link enti?
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And please can we give a rest to the argument that govt is monopolising farmer's produce and putting them at gunpoint?




India lo farmer produce ki price decide chestundi evaru?

Marketyards control chestundi evaru?
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Compliance isssue valla IBM coke

ni tarimesindhi. Cmc was formed to take over IBM.
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FDI valla farmer customer base peruguthundi anukunte adi oka kala.. just like end consumer - farming community is diverse in desam.. so FDI valla benefit ayyedi oka section of farmers ye.

And please can we give a rest to the argument that govt is monopolising farmer's produce and putting them at gunpoint? Its farmers whoa re depending on govt not the other way around... crop fail avvagane parigethukuntu ochedi farmers ye govt assistance kosam..
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Kiki THE BUY CULTURE OF DESAM is totally diff. 20 KMS car lo POYYI vegetables kontara... kiki




exactly. Hyd or even Vijayawada, even for wholesale, Walmart could open only on the city outskirts. Never in the middle of the city.

Nobody in India will drive even 5km for veggies. 5km drive in the US takes 3min, in India it can take an hour.
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this will be something which will see the result in 5 yrs...hope I am proved wrong but....




Instead of giving predictions, why don't you give the reasons, why you think so?

Telecom loki competition introduce cheste ide annaru. Emayindi? Idi varaku phone apply chesina 5yrs ki kooda vachedi kaadu, malli bribes etc. Ippudu? Morning application iste evening fix chestadu.
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good luck buying bland tasting tomatoes at walmart and wondering why the hell doesnt your food taste good anymore




Last time I checked, an Indian farmer, on average before FDI, uses multiple times more pesticides than any farmer in the US.

Let us for a minute assume that your statement is true. Who is forcing the Indian consumer to buy from Walmart, in that case?
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@Irocks
this will be something which will see the result in 5 yrs...hope I am proved wrong but....
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//IBM COKE ye cheddi paaari paaaripoyinayi//

annai, this is not becoz of them experiencing a loss coz every one was drinking coconut water instead of coco cola but due to govt policy anukuntunna
you are comparing apple to aamudham
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IBM COKE ye cheddi paaari paaaripoyinayi....


veelem chestharu rammanu entha mandi vastharo...

Kiki THE BUY CULTURE OF DESAM is totally diff. 20 KMS car lo POYYI vegetables kontara... kiki
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Khandada:

good post
but same old system with minor tweaks...is what walmart will be dealing with anukuntunna
later on instead of market yard goons it will be corporate bullies




NOPE. This is where everybody gets it wrong. They apply the US case, as it is. See why I don't think so-

Govt will still be the biggest customer for the farmer. So the corporates always have to pay better than the Govt. There is no such thing in the US.

So, Govt without private customers for the farmer in India = Walmart in the US

The key is COMPETITION. The Govt has nobody to compete in India, similarly Walmart has no strong player to compete in the US, at least in some areas.

Not just the Govt, Walmart has to compete with multiple other giants. Again there is no such thing in the US.
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@IR
good post
but same old system with minor tweaks...is what walmart will be dealing with anukuntunna
later on instead of market yard goons it will be corporate bullies

anyways, history will repeat
good luck buying bland tasting tomatoes at walmart and wondering why the hell doesnt your food taste good anymore
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AMUL pani WALMART cheyyalante, SAM kooooosalu jaaaripovalsindhey pani mathram avvadu




If Walmart comes, obviously it has to compete with AMUL, right? If AMUL also works to better itself that will help the farmer, and the consumer.

Who ever does a better job, wins. As simple as that.

AMUL pays the farmer better annaru monna, so be it. If Walmart has to compete it has to pay equally, at least. Otherwise why will the farmer sell to Walmart?
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AMUL rocks, 1970's lo unna INFRA tho nettuku vocchi UNO 1 in the entire world example set chesaru. YES WE ARE WORLDS LARGEST MILKKK Producing Nation.


AMUL................rocks... and IMAGINE they did with a HIGHLYYYYYYYYYY PERISHAAABLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE PRODUCT emathram theda poyye chance untadu adham PAATHALAM lo....


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Khandada:

how much are the draw backs of current system due to inept governance ?
yeah, customer benefits...but it changes eco system ...a measure not needed as the impact is much more than the farmer getting paid worth for his goods




The system is inept bcoz Govt has a monopoly on the farmer's produce.

The farmer does all the hardwork, but Govt, or the millers, and middlemen decide the price, how fair is it? Added to that are the chamchas of Congress, TDP etc in the market yards extorting bribes.

I don't expect the farmer to become rich overnight bcoz of the FDI. But it will introduce more customers for the farmer. Simple economic principles - what will happen if there are more ppl who want to buy your product? If you have more options to sell? Is that good for you, or bad?
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@Irocks
seriously theliyaka aduguthunna
how much are the draw backs of current system due to inept governance ?
yeah, customer benefits...but it changes eco system ...a measure not needed as the impact is much more than the farmer getting paid worth for his goods
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asalu retail lo fdi lekundaa unna system nee correct chesthay saripoyedhi
any if not all issues would have been resolved if dealt correctly...including food storage and distribution




For the first time in India's history, Govt allowed an organized competitor to itself in the Agri sector. It provided an extra organized customer to the farmer. And douche bags in the opposition oppose it.

This is part of correcting the system. Introduce competition, and new customers to the farmer. Competition in the market will take care of the farmer.
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http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/se rvices/retailing/fdi-in-retail-walmart-asia-ceo-rejects-lk-a dvanis-statement-says-its-business-is-not-based-on-politics/ articleshow/16534358.cms
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just a service model...for f1ck's sake




good observation!!
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If we dont need them why bother?? Theywill go bankrupt after establishing



http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/se rvices/retailing/fdi-in-retail-walmart-asia-ceo-rejects-lk-a dvanis-statement-says-its-business-is-not-based-on-politics/ articleshow/16534358.cms

I am sure you know how walmart plays the game ..
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Theywill go bankrupt after establishing


walmart vodu 3months return policy ettesada india lo
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i agree...anni mana sethilo unna kaani mundhuku vellaleni paristhithi

asalu retail lo fdi lekundaa unna system nee correct chesthay saripoyedhi
any if not all issues would have been resolved if dealt correctly...including food storage and distribution
it is not a technology just a service model...for f1ck's sake
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ofcourse any country would need many amuls to prosper.... I still wonder, why the model of Amul hasn't been replicated for agri products? experts, please throw some mud!!!!
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http://www.dnaindia.com/money/report_retail-fdi-note-raises- more-questions-than-it-answers_1744390
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If we dont need them why bother?? Theywill go bankrupt after establishing
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Abbe .. antha logical reasoning avasaram ledu .. right wingers oppose sesarante .. blind ga FDI in retail ki support seyyalsinde .. economics lo kuda communal feofle tho undakudadu .. LOL
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