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Mental_sachinodu
Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu
Post Number: 8333 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 13, 2012 - 11:58 am: |
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Unorthodox:Have you ever read a story with some random sentences, with characters having no causal relationship or heard a musical piece which doesn;t have a pattern? Have you ever watched a dance with no pattern in movements? If so do you ever conjure up a meaning out of these random non-patterned occurances? Only painting got an escape from pattern and people are calling it abstract when it doen;t make any sense? there is not much difference between kids' paintings and the so called modern painters except that we try to decipher some meaning out of modern painters while we dismiss kids' paintings. That said I don't think film making is random especially when it comes to story ....beauty of the art lies in patterns and structure and by and large randomness 99% of the time does not create art... It's one thing that a story is half-cooked with loose ends because the author doesn;t really know what to do and it's completely a different thing altogether to intentionally leave the meaning to audiences..the former is the case with Dhobi ghat's story... Have you watched the film?
unortho bro, will get back to this thread in leisure. my point is not about dhobi ghat in particular but about your statement that story is needed for a movie. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada |
   
Reentry
Comedian Username: Reentry
Post Number: 1656 Registered: 06-2009 Posted From: 65.198.163.148
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 13, 2012 - 10:34 am: |
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dheenni movie ane daani kanna docu drama ani chepparu kada aamir shold not have done this role.. aadi badhulu irfan khan or kay kay mennon would have been better.. BGM ekkuva undadhu but unnantha varaku super .. Gustavo santollella ani argentinian.. he worked with alexandro inarritu for movies like ameros perros, babel etc |
   
Unorthodox
Comedian Username: Unorthodox
Post Number: 1898 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 99.64.33.135
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 13, 2012 - 10:24 am: |
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Jalsa:annai, antha pedhha post lu sadavalenu...bomma nassindhaa ledhaa? naakaithe boring bomma anipinchindhi
overall kashtam gaa ok antaam...kadha parangaa bad...migilanavannee ok...RGV sagam kadhato cinemaa teeste elaa untado alaa undi...atleast RGV saaagadeesudu lo confusion undadu bore kottinaa... No tears in the writer, no tears in the reader. No surprise in the writer, no surprise in the reader - Robert Frost. |
   
Jalsa
Hero Username: Jalsa
Post Number: 16361 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 24.185.56.67
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 13, 2012 - 01:26 am: |
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annai, antha pedhha post lu sadavalenu...bomma nassindhaa ledhaa? naakaithe boring bomma anipinchindhi |
   
Unorthodox
Comedian Username: Unorthodox
Post Number: 1894 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 99.64.33.135
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 13, 2012 - 12:15 am: |
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Getafix:mumbai playing a character ante naa uddesyam -locales kaadu..city sets the tone of chars and story like say - NYC in taxi driver.. Taxi driver lo NYC ni scorcese superb chupedthad...aa dark alleys and bhoothu theaters and how ppl prowlin dark alleys etc..
idi paul schrader first screenplay anukuntaa...tarvaata director ayyadu...vaadi prati kadha atukulu atukulu gaa untadi...ika taxi driver ki vaste story setup unna streets ni baagaa chuuyinchaadu...with people who dwell there...mean streets lo kuudaa kochem inchu minchu laane untadi...kaanee dobhi ghat lo apartments ane tappatiki interior ayyindi, exterior of the city avvaledu anukuntaanaa, okka dobhi ghat tappa, plus fewer characters! No tears in the writer, no tears in the reader. No surprise in the writer, no surprise in the reader - Robert Frost. |
   
Getafix
Hero Username: Getafix
Post Number: 10977 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 76.118.67.97
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 13, 2012 - 12:01 am: |
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Unorthodox:kadha chedakundaa prateek gaade heroine ni naalgu gaajula kotlaki tippochchugaa, romance develop chesinattugaa kuudaa vuntadigaa kdha chedakundaa
mumbai playing a character ante naa uddesyam -locales kaadu..city sets the tone of chars and story like say - NYC in taxi driver.. Taxi driver lo NYC ni scorcese superb chupedthad...aa dark alleys and bhoothu theaters and how ppl prowlin dark alleys etc.. |
   
Unorthodox
Comedian Username: Unorthodox
Post Number: 1891 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 99.64.33.135
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2012 - 11:46 pm: |
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Nanigadu:pattadu, karratho champutuntadu
oh ok! raasetappude naaku edo gurtu ledu anipinchindi. No tears in the writer, no tears in the reader. No surprise in the writer, no surprise in the reader - Robert Frost. |
   
Nanigadu
Side Hero Username: Nanigadu
Post Number: 9019 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 99.254.150.227
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2012 - 11:15 pm: |
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Unorthodox:elakalni padatante
pattadu, karratho champutuntadu  My show on TORI Raagala Pallaki - every Friday - EST 8 to 9 PM USA - 703-879-6611 UK - 4412 2377 0661 India - 040 66624513 Skype - tori.live1 Live Link: http://www.teluguoneradio.com/player/tori-live.html |
   
Unorthodox
Comedian Username: Unorthodox
Post Number: 1885 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 99.64.33.135
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2012 - 10:54 pm: |
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ippude google chesaa asalu director uddesam ento ani...nenu cheppe surrealism ki eeme cheppe daaniki match avutundi...aame ki anipinchindantaa amir character...anta varaku aameku matter undi...daanni cinemaa gaa tiyyalante inkonchem penchaalsi vachchindi...aa prayatnam lo padina tippale ivanneee... Q: How did Dhobi Ghat happen? What was the idea behind it? Rao: I actually set out to write something personal and had my own artistic voice in it, and it turned out to be this film. In fact, when I first came to Mumbai 15 years back, every time I shifted into a new apartment, I felt like the apartment told me the story of the previous tenants and their lives. Arun’s character (played by Aamir Khan in the film) is largely inspired by that. The stories are definitely drawn from my own life and experiences. It is also about various people I have un-consciously observed. However, it’s not about anyone in particular. http://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2011/01/20/qa-kiran-rao-o n-her-debut-film-dhobi-ghat/ No tears in the writer, no tears in the reader. No surprise in the writer, no surprise in the reader - Robert Frost. |
   
Unorthodox
Comedian Username: Unorthodox
Post Number: 1884 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 151.151.109.18
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2012 - 03:54 pm: |
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Mental_sachinodu:In my view, a movie does not need a story, a story is just one other flavor in the dish, may be it is the main ingredient in most, but it need not be an absolute essential ingredient to make a movie. abstractness in art is something that need not be done away with, and movie making need not be an exception to this.
Have you ever read a story with some random sentences, with characters having no causal relationship or heard a musical piece which doesn;t have a pattern? Have you ever watched a dance with no pattern in movements? If so do you ever conjure up a meaning out of these random non-patterned occurances? Only painting got an escape from pattern and people are calling it abstract when it doen;t make any sense? there is not much difference between kids' paintings and the so called modern painters except that we try to decipher some meaning out of modern painters while we dismiss kids' paintings. That said I don't think film making is random especially when it comes to story ....beauty of the art lies in patterns and structure and by and large randomness 99% of the time does not create art... It's one thing that a story is half-cooked with loose ends because the author doesn;t really know what to do and it's completely a different thing altogether to intentionally leave the meaning to audiences..the former is the case with Dhobi ghat's story... Have you watched the film?
No tears in the writer, no tears in the reader. No surprise in the writer, no surprise in the reader - Robert Frost. |
   
Mental_sachinodu
Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu
Post Number: 8329 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2012 - 03:20 pm: |
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Unortho bro, Kadha pandu gaane migilindhi, right ee nemo, but does it have to eventually be a ripe fruit, to be a piece of work that can be enjoyed? quite possibly most expect a sense of completed or fulfilled story from a movie or in general a book. but to me this expectation need not be given too much priority from an artist's perspective. the expectation that a writer should decide what he wants to tell, or a movie maker should decide what he wants to potray or a painter should decide what he envisioned is more from a traditional art perspective. in my view all these works can be pieces of journey, not just from an artists perspective, but also from the viewers perspective. In my view, a movie does not need a story, a story is just one other flavor in the dish, may be it is the main ingredient in most, but it need not be an absolute essential ingredient to make a movie. abstractness in art is something that need not be done away with, and movie making need not be an exception to this. asalu movie tho story chepochu ani theliyaka mundhe a series of photographs ni movie ga release chese vaaru, and people were as much entralled by the experience of the movie, if you compare it with movies with stories. what story did to movie making was that it provided alot varieties, so essentially newer flavors were being created, with newer stories. now to say that flavor is absolutely needed, i dont agree. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada |
   
Unorthodox
Comedian Username: Unorthodox
Post Number: 1879 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 151.151.109.18
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2012 - 03:03 pm: |
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Siloan:
okka kadha tappa movie lo annee first rate...BGM (probably konni alaaps vunnaayi ani gurtu, baagundi)cinematography, natural locations, rains...annee baagunnaayi... No tears in the writer, no tears in the reader. No surprise in the writer, no surprise in the reader - Robert Frost. |
   
Unorthodox
Comedian Username: Unorthodox
Post Number: 1878 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 151.151.109.18
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2012 - 02:58 pm: |
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Getafix:amir gadi character anni characters ni kaliputhundi kada...prateik,NRI,saibula ammayi - ivanni diff threads ayithe amir role annitini kalipi kutte soodi.
Amir character ki kadhalo unna oke okka purpose...prateek gaadu, heroine amir ni love chestandi, ani telusukovadam kosame...idi purpose ayite, heroine amir ante istapadatandi ani okati rendu scenes este saripoddi...amir gaadu apartment lo single gaa undi chese panulu, saibbula ammayi tapelu chuudadam, vaadu paintinglu geeyadam kadhaki anavasaram kadaa! nenu idi heroine ki prateek ki madhya love story ani enduku anukutaanante, ending valla iddari madhya undi, vaallu vidipodam undi kaabatti... asalu kadhalo, mattaadite apartments maaradam ento!
Getafix:Last lo Prateik address ivvatam naaku artham kaaledu..Video tapes lo saibula ammayi end chusi Amir back to family elthadu ani guessed..may be alane elthadu ani imagine chesukovalani open ended ga odilesindemo kiran rao.
address ivvadam neeku ardham kaapote adi nee tappu kaadu, writer di tappu...ika saibbula ammayi suicide end chusi amir back to family elataadu ani manam subtle gaa uuhinchukodaaniki inko problem undi...first exhibition tarvaata heroine ni esukunnappude, tarvaata morning relation ishtam ledani cheppesaadugaa...manam appude anukovachhcugaa oho! veediki family bayata relationship ishtam ledu! edo tondaralo kaalu jaaraadani!
Getafix:Mumbai lo locales - saibula ammayi vid tapes nunchi chupisthadu kada..And for me - freindship btw a dhobi and NRI girl chana stretched anipinchedi kani mumbai backdrop lo konchem believability ochindi anipinchindi...
mumbai locales chuuyinchaalante, kadha chedakundaa prateek gaade heroine ni naalgu gaajula kotlaki tippochchugaa, romance develop chesinattugaa kuudaa vuntadigaa kdha chedakundaa!NRI dhobi relation naaku kashtam anipinchaledu, endukante ontarigaa unnappudu neeku immediategaa evarito parichayam erpadite aa parichayam premagaa maaradaaniki avakaasam undi...real life lo kuudaa ilaa jarugutundi...car driver to premalo pade vallu enta mandi! enduku padataaru, driver ammaayi maattadukodaaniki scope untadi kaabatti! No tears in the writer, no tears in the reader. No surprise in the writer, no surprise in the reader - Robert Frost. |
   
Getafix
Hero Username: Getafix
Post Number: 10975 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2012 - 02:34 pm: |
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Unorthodox:
mee post #1876 mallosari liesure ga sadavali..gotta run now. |
   
Siloan
Megastar Username: Siloan
Post Number: 27933 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 132.174.20.41
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2012 - 02:34 pm: |
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Ortho sodara....BGM meedha 4 mukkalu seppu....bhale nachhindi naaku...peru maricha |
   
Getafix
Hero Username: Getafix
Post Number: 10974 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2012 - 02:31 pm: |
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Unorthodox:asalu amir gaadi character mottam kadhalo enduku.
amir gadi character anni characters ni kaliputhundi kada...prateik,NRI,saibula ammayi - ivanni diff threads ayithe amir role annitini kalipi kutte soodi. Last lo Prateik address ivvatam naaku artham kaaledu..Video tapes lo saibula ammayi end chusi Amir back to family elthadu ani guessed..may be alane elthadu ani imagine chesukovalani open ended ga odilesindemo kiran rao. Mumbai lo locales - saibula ammayi vid tapes nunchi chupisthadu kada..And for me - freindship btw a dhobi and NRI girl chana stretched anipinchedi kani mumbai backdrop lo konchem believability ochindi anipinchindi... |
   
Getafix
Hero Username: Getafix
Post Number: 10973 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2012 - 02:20 pm: |
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Zulu
Hero Username: Zulu
Post Number: 13407 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 199.168.243.252
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2012 - 02:07 pm: |
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nenoppukonu. |
   
Linkmaster
Megastar Username: Linkmaster
Post Number: 29075 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 149.128.8.245
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2012 - 02:04 pm: |
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Unorthodox
Comedian Username: Unorthodox
Post Number: 1877 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 151.151.109.18
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2012 - 02:01 pm: |
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1) kadhalo main gaa manaku kanapadatandi...oka heroine iddaru heroes...Heroine ki amir ante ishtam.. amir ki heroine ante ishtam ledu...prateek ki heroine ante ishtam, kaanee heroine ki veedi meeda feeling ledu...ante prateek heroine ni love cheste, heroine amir ni love chestandi...reverse order is not true...idi cinemaalo plot anukunte...cinemaa deeni prakaaram nadavadu endukante scenes coherent gaa undavu...appudu amir gaadu chuuse video tapes vaadi paintings kadhaki sambandham lenivi...asalu aa pilla extra-marital affair veedu first day heroine ni esukunna daaniki link cheyyalenappudu inkaa aa episode enduku? ponee prateek gaadu amir heroine kalusukuni esukunte baaguntadi anukunaadaa, ponee kuurodu sacrifice chesaadule anukodaaniki...ledu...ponee amir emannaa heroine ki daani love ki help chesaadaa ante adee undadu...amir total gaa detached gaa untaadu...idi triangl love plot proper gaa vandanatuvantidi...but the attempt was somewhat feeble...ee kadhani triangle chesi amir kahan character ki kadhaki link unte kota varaku better gaa undedi? deeni proper triangle gaa cheyyakundaa kadhani kampu chesaaru...vaallenduku cheyyaledu ani nenu anukunedi entante, triangle cheste vaalla art edo routine love story ani prekshakulu anukuntaaremo nani ... 2) Kiran rao prakaaram mumbai ni chuupinchaalane uddesam anta...apartments dobhighat tappa emi chuupinchindi...typical gaa mumbai ni chuupinchaalnaukune uddesam ayite ekkuva characters ekkuva locations undaali...general gaa kadha lenappudu, emi kadha cheppalo ardham kaanappudu...evo konni charaters create chesi vaatiki kadhakee edo link undile anipinchadam to problem avutundi...mumbai ni oka character's view point lo atanu chuse mumbai ni chuupiste chaalugaa...ardham pardham leni atukulu enduku? 3) Kadhaki video tapes e vidhamgaa upayogapadatannayi? asalu amir gaadi character mottam kadhalo enduku...okka night daanni esukuni odilesi...inkaa danni evvaram lo e vidhamgaa tala duurchanappudu kadhaki vaadi character enduku? vaadide dandaga anukunte video tapes episode okati? (actual gaa video tapes episode okakte cinemaalo baagundi, kaanee adi kdhaki paniki raadu) 4) ika ento konta romantice scenes undi heroine ki prateek gaadiki...prateek gaadu amir address last lo ivvadamenti? vaadu sacrifice chesaadaa? asalu heroine amir love chesukuntaarani assume chesukuni address ivvadamenti? prastutaaniki ivee naa mind ki andinavi...scenes coherence, characters relationships lo proper linking levu kaabatti, kadha kaaya gaane migilindi, pandu avvaledu ani naa abhipraayam... No tears in the writer, no tears in the reader. No surprise in the writer, no surprise in the reader - Robert Frost. |
   
Unorthodox
Comedian Username: Unorthodox
Post Number: 1876 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 151.151.109.18
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2012 - 02:00 pm: |
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Cinemaaki sambandhinchi auteur theory ani okati french new wave time lo vachchindi...deeni prakaaram director ki anni crafts meeda influence untadi kaabatti vaade film author ani... deenni Robert Mckee laanti screen writing gurus oppukoledu...Mckee prakaaram cinemaalo nijamaina creativity anedi writer nunde vastadi, migataadantaa packaging antaadu... konta mandi special affects vachchina tarvaata director ki cinemaalo enta varaku credit ivvaali ane question estannaaru... ika prekshakula daggaraku vachchetappatiki phalaana hero ne cinemaa...hero unte chaalu, vaade author(author ante to whom film's credit is attributed)... ika naa personal opinion prakaaram...70% of film's creativity writer ki vellali, success gurinchi maattadadam ledu, creativity gurinchi maatrame... dhobighat lo director, performances, cinematography, BG score laantivi problems kaadu...kadha sariggaa vandabadaledu ani naa abhipraayam... Writing lo out-side-in ane oka paddhhati undi...raatri nidra poyetappudu mind loki vachchina alochanalannee kadhaki sambandham unaa leka poyinaa scenes gaa raasi...vaatannitinee kalapaali kaabatti.. edo oka kadha tayaaru cheyyadam...european films ekkuvagaa ilaa untaayi...deenne minimal plot ani kuudaa antaaru... deeni valla scenes coherent gaa undavu...chuuse prekshakudiki wholesome essence ento kadhalo dorakadu...kadha lo scenes individual gaa nachchochchu...kaane kadhalo cheppadaluchukunna vishayam ardham kaadu... konta mandi critics ilaanti ardham pardham leni vaatini pogidestaa...idi surrealistic movie antaaru...kalaki vaatavaaniki madhya unna state ni pratibimbinche kale surrealism... ika dhobi ghat kadha vishayaaniki vaddam...cinemaalo kadha gurinche maatlaadadaam...vere problems emee levu! ayite director ane vaadiki kadhalo emi cheppadaluchukunnado vaadiki kuudaa vuntadi kaabatti tappu writer de kaakundaa director kiran rao ki kuudaa untadi...kadha analysis loki veladaam... No tears in the writer, no tears in the reader. No surprise in the writer, no surprise in the reader - Robert Frost. |
   
Unorthodox
Comedian Username: Unorthodox
Post Number: 1875 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 151.151.109.18
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2012 - 02:00 pm: |
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Getafix, Dhobighat gurinchi nenu anukunedi... Kadhalo ivee broad strokes... 1) Amirkhan, ontarigaa unde oka painter, mumbai lo oka flat loki cherataadu...atani works' exhibition lo america returned ayina oka photography buff(heroine) ni kalusukuni flat ki teesakochchi esukuntaadu...poddunne lechi naaku nuvvu ishatam ledu, dobbai antaadu...photographer kopangaa vellipotundi... 2) Prateik, oka dhobi, Amir ki battalu ivvadaaniki vastaadu...Amir inko apartment ki move ayite, aa apartment lo antaku mundu vunna vaalla saamaanlu dorukutayi amir ki...aa sammanlalo muudu video tapes dorukutaayi...amir aa video tapes chuuste andulo aa apartmentlo unna saibbula pilla enta happy gaa undo telustundi...amir exhibition chuusina vaadu amir ki kotta assignment ichchi adi sydeny lo display cheyyali antaadu...amir ki already sydney lo family untadi...amir kotta painting start chestaadu... 3)prateek battalu heoine ki deliver chestaadu...friends ayinaatu leelagaa telustundi...prateek hero veshaalaki try chestante portfolio ki heroine help chetaanantadi...prateek ni badulugaa mumbai chuuyinchamatadi... 4) amir gaadu rendo video chuustaadu...andulo saibbula pilla mogudu duuramavutunnaadane badhani vyaktam chestundi... 4) prateek dwaaraa amir address teesukuni amir inti mundu nundi amir ni photos teestundi...amir inti mundu heroine nanna construction work jarugutuntadi... 5) prateek brother criminal activities lo untaadu...vaadi parichayaalato prateek ki chance ippinchaalani chuustaadu...prateek heroine ki dobhi ghat laanti prdesaalani chuupistaadu...munna ki heroine ante ishtam erpadiddi kaanee cheppaledu vaadu poor kaabatti...ee lopu Arun okasaari vaadi inti daggara heroine kanapadite tea ki invite chestaadu...ade time lo prateek vachchi chuusi heroine mosam chesindi anukuni mubhaavangaa unte, heroine prateek help kaavaalani convince chestundi... 6) oka roju prateek elakalni padatante photogrph chestadi heroine...prateek gaadu akkada nundi paari potaadu... 7) Amir final video tape lo saibbula pilla kadhanu chuustaadu...aa saibbula pilla daani mogudu extra-marital affair lo unnattu telusukuni, suicide chesukundaamani decide chesukuntundi...aa ammayi ade room lo suicide chesukuni untadani...amir vere apartment ki move avutaadu...prateek gaadi anna chanipote vaadu family to vere apartment ki move avutaadu... 8) Amir video tapes lo chuusina, saibbula pillani, daani samaanlani painting lo dinchestaadu...heroine prateek gaadini vetiki pattukuni friendship continue ani, amir address aduguddi, prateek gaadu address teliyadani abadhdhamaadataadu...car lo fast gaa heroine ellipotante parigetti amir address istaadu... THE END No tears in the writer, no tears in the reader. No surprise in the writer, no surprise in the reader - Robert Frost. |