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jai Satha BC satha beberocks
Hello world "corruption",Narco Nakko Jagan Intl
Asato ma sad gamaya
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That is Bitter reality..Kani daani discourage cheyali..anthe kani "Right to Corruption" ante daanikante daridram inkoti undadu state ki..

Mellaga ee samasya lo nunchi bayapadataniki aalochinchali..Janam lo awareness create cheyali so that they encourage good n clean politics..lekapothe desam inka venakki potundi..




I would suggest a bottom up approach to clean corruption. People just don't realize that the small mistakes they do could form basis for larger corruptions. If you demand a corrupt free leader you should be corrupt free. Leader won't come out of blue, it is people that are electing his leaders. So a leader is a mirror image of yourself.

Practically speaking it is not easy to aggrandize popularity to present yourself as a viable candidate that could potentially represent a geography given the vastness and population of India. Today a common man representing a common man has become next to impossible. Billionaires are hijacking a common man's role of representation. Nobody listens to a common man; people need grandeur image. People are ready to elect film stars/cricket stars etc., but are not ready to listen to fellow common man. Representing your fellow common man is your right it should not be forsaken to tycoons. A common man cannot compete with bigwigs and stalwarts even to collect donations. Like I said if Sonia and JP go for fund raising I am sure JP won't even get millionth of what Sonia would get. Till now the measure of success is number of people you muster for election campaign but if parties start going on fund raising that would become measure of success bottom line common man has to stand behind all the bigwigs. You just cannot change system unless you change yourself.
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nuvvu kharchu peTTavu kaabaTTi neekalanE unTundi. nuvvu paisa kharchu peTTakunda elections lo niabaDu, municipality lo kooDa gelavavu. This is reality.




That is Bitter reality..Kani daani discourage cheyali..anthe kani "Right to Corruption" ante daanikante daridram inkoti undadu state ki..

Mellaga ee samasya lo nunchi bayapadataniki aalochinchali..Janam lo awareness create cheyali so that they encourage good n clean politics..lekapothe desam inka venakki potundi..
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Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi..

What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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nee sontha paityam kaaka pOtE asalu Principal Secretaries only illegal and unconstitutional policies ne reject cheyyali annav., liquor ban illegal aa unconstitutional aa? NTR vinnaDa leda annadi kaadu JP reject chesaaDa ledaa? nenu mundare cheppanu minister/governor can veto ani. But it is the duty of civil servant to use due diligence in making a decision on a policy. They don't have to blindly nod to ministers.
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inkoka analogy, YSR free electricity policy ki kukka cheevaTlu peTTAdu Manmohan; kudaradanTe kudaradannadu; kaani YSR kaallu vElllu paTTukini batimaalite uuh annaDu.

needi baaga vaaDi dinni emanaalo Cheppu? CM is powerful than PM ani anTaava?
కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను!
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At the end of the day, CM calls the shots
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So if MLA spends on an elections with his money he has every right to get profits out of his investment.




nuvvu kharchu peTTavu kaabaTTi neekalanE unTundi. nuvvu paisa kharchu peTTakunda elections lo niabaDu, municipality lo kooDa gelavavu. This is reality.
కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను!
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Konchem vaadu babu, NTR was adamant he did not heed to JP's advice ante evariki power ekkuva unnattu? Is it the CM having the final say, or the chief secretary?




NTR power exert cheyyala monDitam valla saadhincukunnaDu because he blindly gave promised people. Principal Secretary's duty is to advise and make decision on policy. If Principal Secretary is strong enough politicians will got make such promises such as free electricity, color TV etc. So what we need is not a weak CM but a strong Principal Secretary.
కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను!
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So if MLA spends on an elections with his money he has every right to get profits out of his investment.







Dts:

Govt. should raise money for the elections just as USA is doing






Inka naa valla kaadu...
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Tilak:

Lok Satta to allot 100 seats for BCs



prathi party BC laki 100 seats ante antha mandi BC MLA aspirants undoddaa state lo ?
en kaadhal puriyalaya un nastam anbe po
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Konchem vaadu babu, NTR was adamant he did not heed to JP's advice ante evariki power ekkuva unnattu? Is it the CM having the final say, or the chief secretary?
Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi..

What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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NTR prohibition ni IAS aina JP revoke chesada? Inka CM enduku?




idi nee parignanam. neeku principle secretory, secretory telusaa? asalu secretariat anidi okaTi undani telusaa?

idi story behind prohibition

NTR - promised in the election and wanted to bring the law.
JP - rejected it.
NTR - was adamant on that so did not go back.

CBN took over TDP, and implemented JP's advice.

CM PM tOne antha jarigi pOtundi anukunE neelanTi bhakta shabari lu inKa unnaru antE ...

okaTi telusukO constitution prakaaram citizenship unTe chembal rani aina PM avuTundi (with a membership in either rajya sabha or lok sabha) ... so entire country responsibility aa chembal rani ki icchestaanaTaava? mana constitution makers antha picchi vallu kaaru. Civil Servants are the brain behind politics.
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ainaa ee koTTa definitions kanipeTTinanduku thanks. Color TV lu panchipeDam anTe economy ki boKkaDutundi vaddu ani reject cheyyacchu. That's the duty of an IAS officer. That's how NTR's prohibition on liquor was revoked by none other than GREAT JP.




NTR prohibition ni IAS aina JP revoke chesada? Inka CM enduku?


Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi..

What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Color TV lu panchipeDam anTe economy ki boKkaDutundi vaddu ani reject cheyyacchu. That's the duty of an IAS officer. That's how NTR's prohibition on liquor was revoked by none other than GREAT JP. Everybody with a brain knows that prohibition is neither illegal nor unconstitutional.




Annai neeku oka dandam. Vishayam teliyakunda own assumption tho ento matladutunnavu.

IAS CM pettina law ni cancel chestada? IAS mahaa aithe CM ni request cheyachu, advise cheyachu. Anthakante em peekaledu. Anthakante power IAS ki undadu, undakoodadu in democracy, bcoz it is the CM that is elected, not the IAS.

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Something is illegal when it is against established law, but when law maker proposes that thing as a law how can an IAS officer opposes as illegal?




Em matladutavo neeke teliyali.

For example tender process jaragakunda tender jarigindi, auction lo okariki mines contract vachindi ani minister sign pettamantadu. Or reserved forest lo mining ki permission sign pedathadu minister, adi illegal. IAS danni oppose cheyachu.

Color TV panchuta ani CM decide cheste, IAS kaadu, Supreme Court kooda peekedi emi undadu coz policy making is the right to elected rep.

FYI, Tamilnadu lo election promise kinda color TV ante Lok SAtta court ki vellindi, asking court to declare it unconstitutional. Appudu HighCourt we cannot involve in policy making ani kottesindi case.
Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi..

What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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An IAS officer can reject only if a policy is illegal, or unconstitutional.




What a tautologous argument? Something is illegal when it is against established law, but when law maker proposes that thing as a law how can an IAS officer opposes as illegal?

ainaa ee koTTa definitions kanipeTTinanduku thanks. Color TV lu panchipeDam anTe economy ki boKkaDutundi vaddu ani reject cheyyacchu. That's the duty of an IAS officer. That's how NTR's prohibition on liquor was revoked by none other than GREAT JP. Everybody with a brain knows that prohibition is neither illegal nor unconstitutional.
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All of the senior and retired IAS officers reiterated the same when Srilaxmi got arrested. The intent is IAS need not nod his head before ministers. When they have such a freedom why not use it, you don't even need to reform you just need to execute what is there.






Neeku MLA, Bureaucrat ye kaadu, Bad ki Illegal ki difference kooda teliyadu.
Srilakshmi jail lo koorchundi bcoz what she allowed was illegal.

There can be really BAD and LEGAL policies, like color TV scheme, or arogyasri.
Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi..

What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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It's height of your foolishness. The duties of an IAS officer is a 10th standard subject. Until now I thought you at least had minimum education. IAS officers won't initial a policy but he will frame and make decisions on the policy that ministers initiate and IAS officer has right to reject the policy. Of course minister can veto it but IAS need to obey blindly as to what ministers have to say and throw the buck on ministers to escape responsibility.




This post is the definition of foolishness.

An IAS officer can reject only if a policy is illegal, or unconstitutional. And all bad policies need not be illegal, or unconstitutional.Chandrababu color TV lu panchutaa ante IAS kaadu, Supreme Court kooda em peekaledu.

Ika meedata nee ID gurthu pettukunta, so that I don't waste my time

Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi..

What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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IAS officer reject cheste minister mooskuni pani chooskuntada?




This is the question of practice vs. policy. IAS has right to reject. All of the senior and retired IAS officers reiterated the same when Srilaxmi got arrested. The intent is IAS need not nod his head before ministers. When they have such a freedom why not use it, you don't even need to reform you just need to execute what is there. Why cannot JP take TN sheshan as an example? In politics I don't see anything different what other seasoned politician are doing right now.

JP says NTR is god?, Dasari is a great politician (on the occasion of dasari's political satire movie, forgot movie name) Day by day his comments and acts are becoming worse than a common politician.

When a new CM transfer IAS officers why don't come open and question them using media? today kids are eloping using media cannot IAS officers dare to perform their duties?

It is all escapism.
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IAS officers won't initial a policy but he will frame and make decisions on the policy that ministers initiate and IAS officer has right to reject the policy




IAS officer reject cheste minister mooskuni pani chooskuntada?

Naa chaduvu gurinchi vaagudu kaadu, nee burra thakkuva half knowledge gurinchi choosko. MLA spelling teliyadu neeku enduku vayya politics disco?
Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi..

What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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naaku telsu. Neeku teliyadu, teliste aa question adagavu.

Oka law pass avvali ante oka MLA vote chellutundi, oka IAS ki vote chese chance kooda ledu. IAS enni policy lu frame chesina, politician chetilo ne adi law ga marche power untundi. Unless the law maker approves it, policies framed by IAS are equal to trash paper.




It's height of your foolishness. The duties of an IAS officer is a 10th standard subject. Until now I thought you at least had minimum education. IAS officers won't initial a policy but he will frame and make decisions on the policy that ministers initiate and IAS officer has right to reject the policy. Of course minister can veto it but IAS need to obey blindly as to what ministers have to say and throw the buck on ministers to escape responsibility.

TN Sheshan unnappuDu politicians uccha posukunnaru.
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neeku telusaa? give me one link that contradicts my statement. your frustration is not a form of refute.




naaku telsu. Neeku teliyadu, teliste aa question adagavu.

Oka law pass avvali ante oka MLA vote chellutundi, oka IAS ki vote chese chance kooda ledu. IAS enni policy lu frame chesina, politician chetilo ne adi law ga marche power untundi. Unless the law maker approves it, policies framed by IAS are equal to trash paper.

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prati galli politician donations and public funds ane anTaadu. Even Indian politician use the same term for their black money. How do you prove the legitimacy?




That is why we have a legal limit on spending. And every candidate has to submit all the details of spending.

Inka black money ante, aunu andaru crores lo karchu pettedi black money ne, except Lok Satta. Daniki proof enduku prati election lo evadu entha panchutunnadu anedi prathi voter ki telsu. Kaani chaduvukunna manam valla meeda edavakunda, MLA enduku, party enduku ani adugutamu.
Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi..

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Functions of the civil servant

A civil servant is responsible for the law and order and general administration in the area under his work. Typically the functions of an IAS officer are as follows [7] :

To handle the daily affairs of the government, including framing and implementation of policy in consultation with the minister-in-charge of the concerned ministry.[7]
Implementation of policy requires supervision.
Implementation requires traveling to places where the policies are being implemented.
Implementation also includes expenditure of public funds which again requires personal supervision as the officers are answerable to the Parliament and State Legislature for any irregularities that may occur.
In the process of policy formulation and decision making, officers at various levels like joint secretary, deputy secretary make their contributions and the final shape to the policy is given or a final decision is taken with the concurrence of the minister concerned or the cabinet depending upon the gravity the issue.[7]




Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel is remembered as the "Patron Saint" of India's civil servants for establishing modern all-India services. In an unprecedented and unrepeated gesture, on the day after his death more than 1,500 officers of India's civil and police services congregated to mourn at Patel's residence in Delhi and pledged "complete loyalty and unremitting zeal" in India's service.[8].
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Law maker, bureaucrat ki difference telsukuni raa, appudu matladudamu.




neeku telusaa? give me one link that contradicts my statement. your frustration is not a form of refute.

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Obama, Romney accept private funds ante private donations ani. Ippudu iddaru valla money tho run chestunnara campaigns ni. Public donations tho kaada?




prati galli politician donations and public funds ane anTaadu. Even Indian politician use the same term for their black money. How do you prove the legitimacy?
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Merely showing concern is not enough'

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Lok Satta Party is prepared to allot 100 Assembly seats or 33 per cent of the seats to backward class candidates in the next general elections, Lok Satta district secretary Gampa Tirupati and treasurer Devara Srikrishna said on Tuesday.

All the political parties should strive to achieve 33 per cent reservation to the backward classes, rather than merely evince dubious concern for them, they said in a statement. The Telugu Desam Party promised 100 Assembly seats for BCs for ensuring their uplift or for political reasons, they said and found fault with YSR Congress Party honorary president Y.S. Vijayamma for writing letters to other parties on the issue, without announcing the party�s commitment on the matter.

Rather than securing a statutory political quota for BCs, fielding of candidates by each party in different constituencies would serve no purpose, the Lok Satta leaders maintained. If all the contesting candidates were BCs in select constituencies, victory of any of the BC candidates would be ensured and all the political parties should strive for it, they suggested.




Btw, this news is BS. It does not reflect the policy of Lok Satta in any way. At most, evado district leader atyutsaham. LSP official stand on BC, or what ever caste -


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A large number of backward caste leaders and members are planning to join the Lok Satta Party in a day or two.

Disclosing this at a media conference, party spokesman Katari Srinivsa Rao and Working Committee member N. Ravinder said that having been fed with up traditional politics, these BC leaders now feel that the Lok Satta alone will render them justice.

The Lok Satta leaders pointed out that although there are many leaders of competence and integrity among BCs, they have not received due recognition in politics. Their failure to get adequate representation legislative bodies saps their confidence in democracy itself.

The Lok Satta, the leaders said, is committed to fielding BCs in election in proportion to their population provided adequate number of people with leadership qualities apply.

The Lok Satta Party believes that reservations for downtrodden sections should be continued for the time being even as the creamy layer from it should be excluded. The percentage of reservations should under no circumstances be increased, as per Supreme Court directives. At the same time, both the urban and rural poor should be awarded 10 percent bonus marks in competitive examinations so that they can compete on par with their richer counterparts both in higher education and employment. All students, irrespective of their caste and religion, should be provided quality and free education in the English medium and including computer studies up to Class XII. Then every one without reference to his or her caste or religion, will get opportunities for growth. Caste will lose relevance in one generation if the Lok Satta formula is adopted, said the leaders.



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political funding ki oka form e ledu malli reform taa. self paityam.




form leni daniki form teeskuravadame reform. Indulo paityam em ledu.

Dts:

It was not about Obama and Romney's private funds.




Obama, Romney accept private funds ante private donations ani. Ippudu iddaru valla money tho run chestunnara campaigns ni. Public donations tho kaada?

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IAS need not implement a law if he finds to his best knowledge that that law has loopholes.




neeko dandam, spare me. Law maker, bureaucrat ki difference telsukuni raa, appudu matladudamu.
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Who told you that the Govt is raising money in the US?

Both Obama, and Romney accept private funds in the millions.




The argument on the TV show was bringing USA policy in India. It was not about Obama and Romney's private funds.


Indiarocks:

Where did I say that JP pioneered donation? JP pioneered political funding reforms in India. Malli self goal anta. Post artham kakapothe malli chaduvu babu.




political funding ki oka form e ledu malli reform taa. self paityam.



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Adi inkenni aanimutyalu vadulutavo. An IAS can only implement laws, but cannot fix law making. He has to implement a law, good or bad if the MLAs pass it. An IAS cannot influence, or change politics - the root cause for all good, and bad.




IAS need not implement a law if he finds to his best knowledge that that law has loopholes. That's why our politicians transfer insubordinate IAS officers or those who won't work in their way. Why would CBN/YSR etc., has to change IAS offices as soon as he becomes CM?
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but the actual argument was that Govt. should raise money for the elections just as USA is doing and JP is against that. I don't know any better way to make you understand.




Who told you that the Govt is raising money in the US?

Both Obama, and Romney accept private funds in the millions.

Dts:

You said JP pioneered the term donation and then you hit a self goal saying freedom movement was run based donation.




Where did I say that JP pioneered donation? JP pioneered political funding reforms in India. Malli self goal anta. Post artham kakapothe malli chaduvu babu.

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If JP could do any better he would have done while he was a IAS who is more powerful than an MLA. That JP himself agreed in the case of arrested IAS Srilaxmi that IAS offices need not listen to MLAs/ministers.




Adi inkenni aanimutyalu vadulutavo. An IAS can only implement laws, but cannot fix law making. He has to implement a law, good or bad if the MLAs pass it. An IAS cannot influence, or change politics - the root cause for all good, and bad.
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tokkale ... jagan ni tokkeyyaDaaniki chEtiki burada anTakunDaa vaaDukundi TDP ni.
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I am not concocting JP's stand here. Here the confusing is the term donation. Actually didn't use that term, but the actual argument was that Govt. should raise money for the elections just as USA is doing and JP is against that. I don't know any better way to make you understand.

If Govt. don't take of fund raising then people come with their own version of defining donation. You said JP pioneered the term donation and then you hit a self goal saying freedom movement was run based donation.

Donation was there anytime but how people use it is different. As far as I am concerned people are at fault in making choice and of course we cannot blame them to certain extent. How then distinguish between a true representative vs. a feign? After all what an MLA can do? To bring the laws. If that is the only job MLA can do then why MLAs are spending crores of money. So there are hidden factors that influence this.

If JP could do any better he would have done while he was a IAS who is more powerful than an MLA. That JP himself agreed in the case of arrested IAS Srilaxmi that IAS offices need not listen to MLAs/ministers.
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what is your take on 100 seats for BCs
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One more fact. There is an NRI organization called People For LokSatta. Lok Satta party does not take EVEN ONE PENNY from the NRI org's funds bcoz it is illegal to take funds from foreign registered orgs.
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JP is against fund rising and JP himself told on one of the TV interviews. It was during 1998-99 at that time youtube is not there.




BS. Period. If was during the early 2000s that Lok Satta worked on political reform, and even brought a law. Real facts disprove your claims.

Dts:

Right now all the political parties take money or convert money in the form of donations. There is no exception to this. JP has gone a step ahead seek money from NRIs.




FYI, even the freedom movement ran on donations from ppl. That is the ONLY LEGITIMATE WAY.

And FYI, JP was also responsible in bringing a law that large corporations cannot donate more than a small %age of profits. This was put to make sure that corporations do not pay huge donations and get favors in return.

So, before judging JP for things he did not say, you better know the facts.

Inkoti, NRIs aina valla istam tho icharu. Anduke danni "donation" annaru.

Yes, all parties take donations, but black money. That is why they are able to spend more than the legal limit in each constituency. And since they spend in crores, they have to do favors in return through corruption.

Dts:

Even if you take donation and if Sonia/CBN/Chiru/Sachin/JP go on streets begging for donation I am sure JP won't even make fraction of what other will get in the form of DONATIONS even KCR's daughter Kavita would definitely do better than JP. In show business people don't care for values.



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Who said JP is against donation to political parties. FYI, JP is the pioneer for political funding reform in India. Bcoz of him, donations to political parties are tax exempt.

Lok Satta is the only party in India that runs totally on donations, and spends each penny as white.




JP is against fund rising and JP himself told on one of the TV interviews. It was during 1998-99 at that time youtube is not there.

His argument was the the corrupt politicians use Govt.'s money along with personal money.

Right now all the political parties take money or convert money in the form of donations. There is no exception to this. JP has gone a step ahead seek money from NRIs.

If Govt spends that money entirely then its okay and that's what I want. But it is not so. Then you can you expect a fair competition? Not only money but also popularity, caste and power come into play on an election. In such cases how one could establish as a viable candidate on an election? How do you make people listen to you at first?

Even if you take donation and if Sonia/CBN/Chiru/Sachin/JP go on streets begging for donation I am sure JP won't even make fraction of what other will get in the form of DONATIONS even KCR's daughter Kavita would definitely do better than JP. In show business people don't care for values.
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JP is the pioneer for political funding reform in India. Bcoz of him, donations to political parties are tax exempt.

Lok Satta is the only party in India that runs totally on donations, and spends each penny as white.





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Every political party knows how to use the term donation. Every penny they spend will be shown to EC as donation money. If donation is not crime (I know it is not) than make it a law just as USA does. Why is JP against that?




Who said JP is against donation to political parties. FYI, JP is the pioneer for political funding reform in India. Bcoz of him, donations to political parties are tax exempt.

Lok Satta is the only party in India that runs totally on donations, and spends each penny as white.


Dts:

Konchame vaaDalsindi nuvve, if you are paying taxes then why EC asks candidates to spend money (4 lakh max of course); even that amount should not be permitted. Govt., take care of all the burden.




Even if Govt spends on elections, isn't that ppl's money? Govt ki money chettu unda? Ekkada nundi vastaru babu?
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Every political party knows how to use the term donation. Every penny they spend will be shown to EC as donation money. If donation is not crime (I know it is not) than make it a law just as USA does. Why is JP against that?

Konchame vaaDalsindi nuvve, if you are paying taxes then why EC asks candidates to spend money (4 lakh max of course); even that amount should not be permitted. Govt., take care of all the burden.


First of all do people what do it means to elect a representative? Can you define a representative?
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NRIs daggara dabbulu gunjaDam corruption kaadaa? asalu NRIs ki India lo election ki sambandham emiTi?



Donation ante spelling thelusa? Adi telsukuni raa mundu. Donation voluntary gaa, istam tho ichina danni antaru, gunjatam anaru.

Dts:

So if MLA spends on an elections with his money he has every right to get profits out of his investment. Please do not paint yourself as sadhu and santh and give me carp that no one should not do like that blah blah. Think practically.

It is not MLA that is corrupt it people that are corrupt. Just put yourself in a situation where you would want to contest an election against say an established politician/film star/business tycoon. Who will people vote? do you think people care for your wholeheartedness, your virtues and your morals? Don't even think about it. People just care about what they get by electing you as an MLA.




Why the hell are you paying taxes to the Govt to run the show then? Konchem vaadu.

Donations are the ONLY way to run LEGITIMATE politics. Evarina maaku public donations akkarledu, own funds tho politics naduputamu ante, it is all corrupt, or black money. And they are aiming to earn 10x of that amount when they get elected.
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Avunu.. Sontha dabbulu karchu petti malli daaniki 1000 times corruption chesi sampayinchatam telledu.. Legal ga funds techkoni election limits lo karchu pedthe neeku comedy ayipoyindi.. Anduke mana desam ila naakestundi..

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NRIs daggara dabbulu gunjaDam corruption kaadaa? asalu NRIs ki India lo election ki sambandham emiTi?

You take money from NRIs you are loose elections; so whose money you are pouring into water?

An MLA is allowed to spend 4 lakhs per election as per the constitution and lets say JP collected all the legally allowed money from NRIs are other resources and he lost this election; that means 4 lakhs per head is gone now. For the next elections you would do the same. So the investment mounts up.

And the great JP is against fund raising when it comes to make this a law, just a US. JPs argument is that MLAs will not only spend the money from fund raising but also spend money from MLA's means.

So if JP is against fund raising then why is he after that?

Lets say if JP contested 4 elections and looses all of them then essentially he lost 16 lakhs per MLA. Who is the looser?

So if MLA spends on an elections with his money he has every right to get profits out of his investment. Please do not paint yourself as sadhu and santh and give me carp that no one should not do like that blah blah. Think practically.

It is not MLA that is corrupt it people that are corrupt. Just put yourself in a situation where you would want to contest an election against say an established politician/film star/business tycoon. Who will people vote? do you think people care for your wholeheartedness, your virtues and your morals? Don't even think about it. People just care about what they get by electing you as an MLA.
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LOL......


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asala antha mandhi BCs unnara lok satta party lo??

bob garu aithe mathram 100 cycle seats order ichi untadu ...


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//Lok Satta to allot 100 seats for BCs

asala antha mandhi BCs unnara lok satta party lo??

bob garu aithe mathram 100 cycle seats order ichi untadu ...
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Dts:

JP gori routE veru! andharu tama sonta dabbu kharchu peTTukoni ennikallo digitE mana sir NRI nunDi dabbu vasool chEsi ennikalaku kharchu peDataaru. paisa kharchu leni beram.




Avunu.. Sontha dabbulu karchu petti malli daaniki 1000 times corruption chesi sampayinchatam telledu.. Legal ga funds techkoni election limits lo karchu pedthe neeku comedy ayipoyindi.. Anduke mana desam ila naakestundi..

Mari amayakudi laa unnav..

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Merely showing concern is not enough - Lok Satta
inti janalni boothul thitti .. pakkintolla ki band vayinchatam lo, em happiness untadho - Jupiter
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bad mov by LokSatta
Admin Goru - Oka sincere request and this is not for this instance but in general. There is a doubt that MOD ids are shared. Idi clear ga undali ante Please unhide Mods IP. I dont see a reason to hide IP in open mod system. Please consider
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casette party
http://imgcdn.raagalahari.com/june2012/functions/ram-charan-wedding-high-resolution/ram-charan-wedding-high-resolution34.jpg
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Newguy123:

JP goru kuda ee route ki vachara?




JP gori routE veru! andharu tama sonta dabbu kharchu peTTukoni ennikallo digitE mana sir NRI nunDi dabbu vasool chEsi ennikalaku kharchu peDataaru. paisa kharchu leni beram.
కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను!
DTS "The digital experience"
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Methati_idly:


IR vachhe lopu nuvvu try cheyyi ee lopu :-)
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Indiarocks kurrodu sukhoy vimanam lo huta hutina sanghatana sthalaniki serukuntunnad..reply ki ragathal kaarathai okkodiki

ayyy
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Pulibongaram:

indiarocks




he is Genius .......like Vomkar .... anniyaa
Hello world "corruption",Narco Nakko Jagan Intl
Asato ma sad gamaya
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lol.....jesht 2 weeks back ye indiarocks kurrod seppinattunnaad...maa party caste gurinchi ekakda maataadindi ani
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Amigo:

I think this news is fake



JP sir analedhu, but his party vaallu egirings. JP okkadu sarigaa untay...saripodhu gaa, your aaaanar?
http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/andhra-pradesh/article38 06709.ece
karnataka lo, iddharini kodithey...bjp mathathathwam, kaashyam, ram bhakths ahaa oho , mana db lo
inti janalni boothul thitti .. pakkintolla ki band vayinchatam lo, em happiness untadho - Jupiter
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PRP try chesinappudu....that is not the right way annaru?

I think this news is fake.
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adi kaavalani tecchukunna g balupu... nivvu nenu emi cheyalemu... oka roju... ade balapu tho... randhram musuku poddi... jeevam kottukkapoddi... koncham wait chey! opika, ade important!
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Tilak:

Lok Satta to allot 100 seats for BCs




neee jpioooooooo
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Methhanithodugu:

forot to post who will stand asale dabbull undav BC deggara ...TDP?CONG ye barincha leru malla LS



BC llo oka Devendra Gowd, oka Chiranjeevi laanti rich people vunnaru kathaa

alaantollaki isthaaru




Collections sesotollu BCs main trait is they will never spend for other seat

ina Chiru BC enti bro ... he is stinkin rich before entering politics
Hello world "corruption",Narco Nakko Jagan Intl
Asato ma sad gamaya
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Tilak:

Rather than securing a statutory political quota for BCs, fielding of candidates by each party in different constituencies would serve no purpose, the Lok Satta leaders maintained. If all the contesting candidates were BCs in select constituencies, victory of any of the BC candidates would be ensured and all the political parties should strive for it, they suggested



aaha,oho
inti janalni boothul thitti .. pakkintolla ki band vayinchatam lo, em happiness untadho - Jupiter
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Andhrawala:

Chiranjeevi




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Methhanithodugu:

forot to post who will stand asale dabbull undav BC deggara ...TDP?CONG ye barincha leru malla LS




BC llo oka Devendra Gowd, oka Chiranjeevi laanti rich people vunnaru kathaa

alaantollaki isthaaru
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e caste politics ento JP garu uthhamulake mana party seats annaru kadandi evetandi manaki e paristhithi
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JP goru kuda ee route ki vachara?
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forot to post who will stand asale dabbull undav BC deggara ...TDP?CONG ye barincha leru malla LS
Hello world "corruption",Narco Nakko Jagan Intl
Asato ma sad gamaya
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Hello world "corruption",Narco Nakko Jagan Intl
Asato ma sad gamaya
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'Merely showing concern is not enough'

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Lok Satta Party is prepared to allot 100 Assembly seats or 33 per cent of the seats to backward class candidates in the next general elections, Lok Satta district secretary Gampa Tirupati and treasurer Devara Srikrishna said on Tuesday.

All the political parties should strive to achieve 33 per cent reservation to the backward classes, rather than merely evince dubious concern for them, they said in a statement. The Telugu Desam Party promised 100 Assembly seats for BCs for ensuring their uplift or for political reasons, they said and found fault with YSR Congress Party honorary president Y.S. Vijayamma for writing letters to other parties on the issue, without announcing the party’s commitment on the matter.

Rather than securing a statutory political quota for BCs, fielding of candidates by each party in different constituencies would serve no purpose, the Lok Satta leaders maintained. If all the contesting candidates were BCs in select constituencies, victory of any of the BC candidates would be ensured and all the political parties should strive for it, they suggested.



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