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Religion is a private domain in any person's life.
As part of that private domain, there are certain holy beliefs that should not be encroached upon.

For every oen who follows Hinduism (not Hindutva), Tirumala is a very sacred place and more so for Sri Vaishnavas.
Sri Vaishanavas and Vishnu believers have a certain life style and certain traditions that should be respected by others even if you do not believe in them. For e.g. Sri Vaishnavism asks you to eat only SAATVIC food.
Christianity does not follow this.

Hence in a designated holy place of Sri Vashnavas, oppossing belief systems have no place at all.

AND THAT IS WHAT SECULARISM SAYS - RESPECT AND TREAT ALL RELIGIONS ALIKE.

HENCE THE DACOIT GANG SHOULD START RESPECTING HINDUISM AND GET OUT OF HINDU HOLY PLACES.
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In India, Gods/Goddesses are considered living beings and are entitled to properties, with caretakers ani Ayodhya case appudu chadivina gurtu .. aa angle emanna panikostunda ee thread lo?

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Tilak tammudu yekkada ee thread lo?



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ayya sanman garu, about 3-4 yrs back YSR govt release a G.O. to ban non-hindu preaching in Tirumala, adi latest matter. Ikkada nuvvu entha discussion chesina nothing is going to change. legally these 3 TTD employees have committed crime, adi matter :D

You may bring all kind of references from Indian constitution but it won't change a thing because of this G.O. :D
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Indiarocks:

the constitution itself is a broad document. It only gives the basic structure of how the country should be run.


IR bhayya intha knowledgeable aina nuvvu ee statement elaa ichaavu. constitution is (should be) the contract between individual and state. not a contract between state and govt or people and govt
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Indiarocks:

All places of worship are private properties owned by the respective trusts.


not just places of worship, all private properties are owned by individuals/businesses/boards and they have right to admission and they can make rules of conduct. i did not know that entire tirumala city being owned by ttd. 6 years ago if someone built a church in the tirumala forest, it would have been illegal for someone to stop them.

Indiarocks:

Prohibiting promotion of other religions constitution enduku enforce cheyali, those respective religions/trusts should decide that.


of course. it should not be any different than your rules in your house.
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Indiarocks:

All places of worship are private properties owned by the respective trusts.




Managed ani chadukondi.
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Sanman:

article 26 does not say anything about prohibiting other religions to promote. i am not talking about tirumala since it is a private property. other places of worship perimeters gurinchi matladutunna. you don't need article 26 to have rights in your property.




All places of worship are private properties owned by the respective trusts.

Prohibiting promotion of other religions constitution enduku enforce cheyali, those respective religions/trusts should decide that.
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Sanman:

that should not effect a law unless the law itself defines how old a place should be to get special privileges. and it should not be unique to hindu temples.



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Indiarocks:

clearly


clearly annappudu clear gaa unna excerpt ivvandi. article 26 does not say anything about prohibiting other religions to promote. i am not talking about tirumala since it is a private property. other places of worship perimeters gurinchi matladutunna. you don't need article 26 to have rights in your property.

Mental_sachinodu:

naak thelsindhi idhi. thappu ayithe correst seyyudi.


i learned the same thing below.

Mental_sachinodu:

historically


that should not effect a law unless the law itself defines how old a place should be to get special privileges. and it should not be unique to hindu temples.
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Sanman:

are you saying that law was illegal before that ?




sanman bro,
before 2006 TTD jurisdiction was only on tirumala not the rest of the places(legally), but historically people considered seven hills were under lords name, so 2006 lo they had to file a case to get the seven hills under TTD. naak thelsindhi idhi. thappu ayithe correst seyyudi.
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Before 2006 law scope enti, ante ekkada ban, ekkada no ban idea ledu. I think the area not owned by TTD was forest land.

But the constitution clearly provides a mechanism to protect the sanctity of places of worship. Evado fanatic CM vachi of no reason land lageskunta ante TTD can go to court. It can at the least purchase the land
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Indiarocks:

KCR thamud, constitution itself gave the right to religious institutions to own and manage land/property kada.

Oka saari religious inst own cheste ban on promotion of other religions ani nuvve antunnavu. Inkenti problem?


naa posts chusthe i was not sure if ttd owned the real estate of tirumala. before this thread, did you know that it happened only in 2006. are you saying that law was illegal before that ?
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KCR thamud, constitution itself gave the right to religious institutions to own and manage land/property kada.

Oka saari religious inst own cheste ban on promotion of other religions ani nuvve antunnavu. Inkenti problem?
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Rasputin:

Could it be interpreted as "zoning" laws?

Even US laanti "free" country lo kooda, you can not construct a home in a business zone and vice versa. you can not carry a weapon in a "no concealed weapons" zone.


i am not aware of any religious zones in constitution. mana state lo pass chesaaru they included tirumala along with some other temples, churches, and mosques. tirumala did not need it as it is a private property ani kindha link lo chadivaanu
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Sanman:

are you saying each religion must have its own laws ? how about shah bano case ? dont you think the constitution has some blame to take in it ?




constitution thappu unte, sange seyyalem ani ledhu kadha. but not using a religion ee answer ante nenu emi cheppalenu.

between shah bhano case gurinsi naaku pedha idea ledhu.
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Indiarocks:

So the State Govt banning promotion of other religions within that land cannot be said unconstitutional.





Sanman:

andhuke kadha i am saying it is not illegal if it is owned by ttd



Sanman:

if it is not a private property, yes. in this case, no



Sanman:

unless it is a private property



Sanman:

that is private property. they can have their own rules



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(c) to own and acquire movable and immovable property; and
(d) to administer such property in accordance with law




Mundu religious institution own chesina land public property avvadu. So the State Govt banning promotion of other religions within that land cannot be said unconstitutional.

As simple as that. If you are confused, it is not necessary that everybody should be. Naaku antha clear gaa ne undi.
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Sanman:


Could it be interpreted as "zoning" laws?

Even US laanti "free" country lo kooda, you can not construct a home in a business zone and vice versa. you can not carry a weapon in a "no concealed weapons" zone.
01/06/2012 - 169.4;05/04/2012 - 175.8
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Indiarocks:

The conflict is only your confusion.


it seems lately your focus is to win the debate more than stick to facts. indulo ithara matha prachaaraalani ban cheyochu ani ekkada undhi ? where does it conflict with your right to promote your religion ?

26. Freedom to manage religious affairs Subject to public order, morality and health, every religious denomination or any section thereof shall have the right
(a) to establish and maintain institutions for religious and charitable purposes;
(b) to manage its own affairs in matters of religion;
(c) to own and acquire movable and immovable property; and
(d) to administer such property in accordance with law
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Sanman:

please post that excerpt. even if it did, it conflicts with itself about the right to practice and promote religion peacefully.




Article 26





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Mental_sachinodu:

i dont see anything wrong with it.


are you saying each religion must have its own laws ? how about shah bano case ? dont you think the constitution has some blame to take in it ?
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Indiarocks:


In TTD's case the constitution clearly gives a mechanism to protect places of worship.


please post that excerpt. even if it did, it conflicts with itself about the right to practice and promote religion peacefully.

Indiarocks:

2006 varaku TTD, or Tirumala ekkada varaku manaki important, ekkada varaku TTD own cheyali annadi law makers decide cheyali. Again the same constitution gives power to states to do that. Inka indulo problem emundi unless you want the boundaries of Tirumala to be defined in the constitution.


andhuke kadha i am saying it is not illegal if it is owned by ttd, even though i don't agree with govt giving the land to ttd for free. they should have purchased it. ippudu govt free gaa isthe repu inko govt vachi laakkune provision kuda open unnatte kadha
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Sanman:

because you are limiting the scope to a time period where hindus are the majority or have a significance. what law can you think of that should be different for hindus ? tomorrow if budhism becomes largest religion of India those writings point out the lack of vision of founders to not have anticipated that. constitution is not written for the time being. it should stand the test of time and socioeconomic changes




yes, thats how precisely i would prefer my constitution, and it should be something that can be changed based on socio-economic changes.

Consitution lo every religion can have its own rules ani untadhi, repu budhism main stream religion ayithe consitution ki vachina problem emito konchem explain cheyyi.

freaking marriage laws lo kooda every religion marriage rules ettaaru, including Buddhism and for all others who fall out of it they have special marriage act.

i dont see anything wrong with it.
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Indiarocks:

Ikkada "it" ante enti?


ban of non hindu religious promotion

Indiarocks:

It was absolutely necessary, given the social conditions.


the other day i was talking about universality of an idea. thats how it works. formulate a constitution without narrowing it down to one group, majority or minority.

Indiarocks:

Lekapothe SC/STs ni temples lopala allow cheyali ani constitution lo ledu ani vallani ban cheste?


it violates the rule of equality in constitution. you don't need to explain the circumstances where one human is equal to another. it just means as a rule you are equal. and then you put in the exceptions. like not fighting for equality in someone's private property.


Mental_sachinodu:

care to expand on this. why is distinguishing using religion a bad thing? ofcourse discimination is a bad thing, but why acknowledging religion a bad thing?


because you are limiting the scope to a time period where hindus are the majority or have a significance. what law can you think of that should be different for hindus ? tomorrow if budhism becomes largest religion of India those writings point out the lack of vision of founders to not have anticipated that. constitution is not written for the time being. it should stand the test of time and socioeconomic changes
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Sanman:

law does not override constitution. aa point of view lo chusthe constitution should precise enough to not allow laws to work around it




Ekkada overriding undi.

In TTD's case the constitution clearly gives a mechanism to protect places of worship. Inka aa mechanism use cheskovalsindi law makers.

2006 varaku TTD, or Tirumala ekkada varaku manaki important, ekkada varaku TTD own cheyali annadi law makers decide cheyali. Again the same constitution gives power to states to do that. Inka indulo problem emundi unless you want the boundaries of Tirumala to be defined in the constitution.
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Sanman:

law does not override constitution.




overrride chesthundhi ani anatledhu, but they check if it is with in the limits of constitution. yes i agree it should be kept as low as possible, but i dont think it can ever be zero.
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Mental_sachinodu:

and that is where law comes in to play.


law does not override constitution. aa point of view lo chusthe constitution should precise enough to not allow laws to work around it

Mental_sachinodu:

there is a bench of judges and lawyers who argument about the conflict hand and give an objective ruling based on constitution


even before that there is a bunch of idiots making those laws

Mental_sachinodu:

i dont think you can get away with not incorporating any subjective rules in Constitution.


you can work towards keeping that number as close to 0 as possible


Indiarocks:

It only gives the basic structure of how the country should be run.


no it doesnt. it gives rights to citizens of country.

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And MOST IMPORTANTLY, it cannot replace the legislatures, or law making.


what are you talking about ? while laws are always geared towards taking away an individual's rights, constitution is intended towards giving you rights. a law cannot override your constitutional rights

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Public order anedi oka community/state define cheskovali.


correct. at the same time a better constitution worries more about the growing power power of state over individual, not the other way around
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in fact using the name of a religion in the constitution itself is a failure of constitution



care to expand on this. why is distinguishing using religion a bad thing? ofcourse discimination is a bad thing, but why acknowledging religion a bad thing?
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babu even now it is in the scope of constitution. mottam desam lo andari names and addresses incorporate cheyamani adagatam laa.




Ikkada "it" ante enti?


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in fact using the name of a religion in the constitution itself is a failure of constitution. no matter what the purpose is, whether it is good or bad, you are distinguishing one religion from another.




It was absolutely necessary, given the social conditions. Lekapothe SC/STs ni temples lopala allow cheyali ani constitution lo ledu ani vallani ban cheste?
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doesn't mean anything. an officer cannot take away your constitutional rights.




Can you do samething at Vatican city as you have constitutional right? As a holy place TTD has it's own rules and regulations. We don't do this same shit at other's religious holy places
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respect, dignity, moral, public order, peace etc are subjective words. you include them in constitution and you are giving govt broad rights to use the constitution any way they please.




and that is where law comes in to play. each of these are subjective and in cases of conflict, there is a bench of judges and lawyers who argument about the conflict hand and give an objective ruling based on constitution. i dont think you can get away with not incorporating any subjective rules in Constitution.
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public order ki definition pettu konchem. monna JP chesina raithu yathra public order ni disturb chesinattu kaadha. bokkalo vesinaa it would have been legal. paalu ani poddunne ariche paalodu kuda public order disturb chestunnaadu. a wise constitution never gives broad brushes




Dude, the constitution itself is a broad document. It only gives the basic structure of how the country should be run. And MOST IMPORTANTLY, it cannot replace the legislatures, or law making.

Public order anedi oka community/state define cheskovali. For eg. after 10PM loud speaker pedatha. Constitution naaku freedom of speech ichindi, late night loud speaker pettaddu ani ekkada cheppaledu ante elaga?
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in fact using the name of a religion in the constitution itself is a failure of constitution. no matter what the purpose is, whether it is good or bad, you are distinguishing one religion from another.
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You need to understand the scope of the constitution, and the scope of the law.


babu even now it is in the scope of constitution. mottam desam lo andari names and addresses incorporate cheyamani adagatam laa. kindha nuvvu cheppinattu common sense vaadu
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ante, constitution raase time lo each and every place survey chesi, dhaani batti appude decide cheyaali ani antunava leka?


it doesnt need to be extensive or exhaustive. it needs to be precise and objective. constitution can say individuals should always respect each other. while in theory that is a good philosophy. that also rules out news against people like n.d.tiwari or ysr. so if you say something insulting towards them you can be arrested. respect, dignity, moral, public order, peace etc are subjective words. you include them in constitution and you are giving govt broad rights to use the constitution any way they please.

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TTD is wrong to be against other religion preaching in and around Tirumala antunava?


if it is not a private property, yes. in this case, no
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nee antharangam lo unna aa gnaana khani maaku kuda share cheyochu gaa. kindha link post chesaanu chudu




Tirumala 7hills lo Venkanna ki related historic importance unna places unnayi. Precisely for this reason the constitution permits religious institutions to own, and manage land. It already gave the mechanism to protect those lands. Anthe kaani Tirumala ante 7hills motham, Srisailam ante intha ani maps geeyaru kada constitution lo?

You need to understand the scope of the constitution, and the scope of the law.
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nee antharangam lo unna aa gnaana khani maaku kuda share cheyochu gaa. kindha link post chesaanu chudu




ante, constitution raase time lo each and every place survey chesi, dhaani batti appude decide cheyaali ani antunava leka?

ikkada janaalaki emi thelikunda, manasuki thochindhi septhunnnar ani antunaava leka?

TTD is wrong to be against other religion preaching in and around Tirumala antunava?

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Andulo vague ga unnadi naaku emi kanipinchala.


public order ki definition pettu konchem. monna JP chesina raithu yathra public order ni disturb chesinattu kaadha. bokkalo vesinaa it would have been legal. paalu ani poddunne ariche paalodu kuda public order disturb chestunnaadu. a wise constitution never gives broad brushes
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Mental_sachinodu:

usual articles attane untaayi, then there are addendums to each of these articles which are more detailed.




Andulo vague ga unnadi naaku emi kanipinchala. Religious institutions can own, and manage land ani clear gaa undi.
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Enti babu idi kooda teliyakunda vaadistunna anukuntunnava?


nee antharangam lo unna aa gnaana khani maaku kuda share cheyochu gaa. kindha link post chesaanu chudu
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levu ani thread lo mandhi seppar kadha?


http://www.telegraphindia.com/1060729/asp/nation/story_65408 31.asp
correct source tho cheppaali. abba adhi anthe. adhi andariki telusu ante.
adhi 2006 nundi anthe. anthaku mundhu ttd owned less than 10% of tirumala.

Hyderabad, July 28: The constitutional guarantee of free religious expression will now be suspended across a 322.68-sq-km (80,628-acre) area around Tirupati’s Balaji temple.

No other religion can be preached ? and no mosques or churches built ? in this area spread across seven hills, the Tirumala Tirupati Dewasthanam said yesterday.

The Dewasthanam till now controlled a 6,600-acre area that includes Tirumala ? the small temple town housing 10,000-15,000 people, mostly temple workers ? and the ban applied there. The Andhra government has now handed over to the Dewasthanam the rights to an additional 74,000 acres of surrounding hilly land, mostly a reserved forest.
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evaru ante ? what is owned by ttd ? the entire real estate of tirumala ? say yes only if you know for it to be a fact or provide a source




Enti babu idi kooda teliyakunda vaadistunna anukuntunnava?


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what are you talking about ? i am talking about article 25 and how it is vague.




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tirumala lo non ttd home owners and land owners leru antaavu.



levu ani thread lo mandhi seppar kadha?


http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-03-29/hyder abad/31254408_1_guest-houses-ttd-darshan
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okka article, 5 lines sadivi, constitution ledhu ani decide ayipoyama?


what are you talking about ? i am talking about article 25 and how it is vague.
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All the 7 hills belong to the Lord ante


evaru ante ? what is owned by ttd ? the entire real estate of tirumala ? say yes only if you know for it to be a fact or provide a source

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Court lo kooda TTD vadistundi anduke. Adi public land ela autundi inka?


tirumala lo non ttd home owners and land owners leru antaavu. oka vela unte ee law unconstitutional aa ?
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that is the problem with vague laws and constitutions. if you include words and phrases that are subjective and open to interpretation anyone can make any law out of it. just because you are enjoying the majority you are able to enforce your interpretation. tomorrow if a non hindu fanatic is in that place he will define ganesh nimajjanam as public disorder. same level of support untundhaa mee daggara ?




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public order


that is the problem with vague laws and constitutions. if you include words and phrases that are subjective and open to interpretation anyone can make any law out of it. just because you are enjoying the majority you are able to enforce your interpretation. tomorrow if a non hindu fanatic is in that place he will define ganesh nimajjanam as public disorder. same level of support untundhaa mee daggara ?
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avanni maaku telisinave. court ki lord vachi vaadhinchadu kadha. board aadhvaryam lo untundhi. andariki telisindhe chattam kaadhu. maseed chuttu pakkala anthaa muslims untaaru ani andariki telisindhe. kaani adhi private property kaadhu




Owned by the Lord, and TTD board is only a trustee of it. Court lo kooda TTD vadistundi anduke. Adi public land ela autundi inka?

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lopaliki velladam ki ooriki velladaaniki theda untadhi kadha. unless ttd has the deeds for the entire land area and residential buildings in tirumala, state govt prohibition of non hindu religious promotions is unconstitutional ani antunna




As far as the constitution is concerned, Tirumala is not a public place, or any other town. Ee point consider cheste you will understand.

All the 7 hills belong to the Lord ante artham enti. Temple compound wall unnantha varake temple autunda?
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public order //

tirumala lo hindus religious place anedhi public order.

if some muslim trying to construct a mosque that is 100 percnet against public order.

same way tirumala lo other religions preaching anedhi against public order.
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Tirumala lo (Konda meedha), non hindus matha prachaaram not allowed.
It is illegal. That is why, they were arrested.
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Vere religion place of worship loki velli inko religion ni promote cheyatam peaceful promotion aa, idem logic vayya?


lopaliki velladam ki ooriki velladaaniki theda untadhi kadha. unless ttd has the deeds for the entire land area and residential buildings in tirumala, state govt prohibition of non hindu religious promotions is unconstitutional ani antunna

Indiarocks:

More over Tirumala is supposed to be owned by the Temple, and the Lord Himself.


avanni maaku telisinave. court ki lord vachi vaadhinchadu kadha. board aadhvaryam lo untundhi. andariki telisindhe chattam kaadhu. maseed chuttu pakkala anthaa muslims untaaru ani andariki telisindhe. kaani adhi private property kaadhu
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ekkada cheppaka povadam enti ? Every citizen of India has a right to practice and promote their religion peacefully ani explicit rights isthe ? unless it is a private property any efforts by state or local govts to stop them should be illegal.




Vere religion place of worship loki velli inko religion ni promote cheyatam peaceful promotion aa, idem logic vayya?

More over Tirumala is supposed to be owned by the Temple, and the Lord Himself.
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Zulu:

basha jagratha..


chaa nee gilludu post ki tagga response expect cheyyi

Nippu:

deeni meaning enti.


i think it is just about article 25 and also it gave the two areas where state can make laws. promotion of religion is not in those 2
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2) Nothing in this article shall affect the operation of any existing law or prevent the State from making any law-
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deeni meaning enti.

state can make laws ane kada tirumala meeda.

it doesnt matter if it is privte or public land.

the state has the right to do it.

so the state has passed G.O .

if any one has issue of that G.o if it is agianst cont. they can go to Supreme court.
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aa theds lo edavochu gaa emanna points unte nenu jump nenu lite ani ellipotaavu aa theds lo ittanti theds lo ilaa chidathalu vaayistaavu




oogaku dolling..ekkada edavalo naku thelusu..
basha jagratha..
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Constitution lo ekkada cheppaledu ani Tirumala lo pracharam chestara? Ala cheyatame first disturbance create cheyatam. Everybody knows that Tirumala, and the seven hills are termed as sacred places of worship for Hindus.

Asalu edu kondalani Govt control cheyatame boothu. It is the private property of Lord Venkanna. Govt mahaa aithe trust form chesi, independent agency tho audit cheyinchali ante. Alantidi TTD ni rajakeeya punaravasa sibiram chesaru.

Constitution lo anni cheppakkarledu, common sense vadali.




there's a point in Sanman's post. Tirumala definetly needs to have its own consitution (im sure it already has). every entity need to be aware of such legalities.
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Zulu:

Tirumala lo Guns Legal cheyyali..so that people can protect their interests..


aa theds lo edavochu gaa emanna points unte nenu jump nenu lite ani ellipotaavu aa theds lo ittanti theds lo ilaa chidathalu vaayistaavu
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Tirumala lo Guns Legal cheyyali..so that people can protect their interests..
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Thakita_thakita:

Meru thirumala ni Tirupathi to confuse avutunnara?
Thirumala ante Konda paina place, I think there are no private homes in Thirumala.


no. i am talking about tirumala. i heard there are private homes and some of them are occupied by non hindus also.

Indiarocks:

Constitution lo ekkada cheppaledu


ekkada cheppaka povadam enti ? Every citizen of India has a right to practice and promote their religion peacefully ani explicit rights isthe ? unless it is a private property any efforts by state or local govts to stop them should be illegal.
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Indiarocks:


Constitution lo anni cheppakkarledu, common sense vadali.


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Sanman:

Every citizen of India has a right to practice and promote their religion peacefully. It does not say anything about where and when.
25 (1) Subject to public order, morality and health and to the other provisions of this Part, all persons are equally entitled to freedom of conscience and the right freely to profess, practise and propagate religion.
(2) Nothing in this article shall affect the operation of any existing law or prevent the State from making any law-
(a) regulating or restricting any economic financial political or other secular activity which may be associated with religious practice;
(b) Providing for social welfare and reform or the throwing open of Hindu religious institutions of a public character to all classes and sections of Hindus.
Explanation I. The wearing and carrying of Kirpans shall be deemed to be included in the profession of the Sikh religion.


Subject to public order annadhi okkate kaadhu. Kaani vaallu prachaaram chesukunte disturbance create chesedhi Hindus. Public order anedhi vague term. Aa reason cheppi ganesh nimajjanam kuda ban cheyochu repu oka non hindu govt vasthe




Constitution lo ekkada cheppaledu ani Tirumala lo pracharam chestara? Ala cheyatame first disturbance create cheyatam. Everybody knows that Tirumala, and the seven hills are termed as sacred places of worship for Hindus.

Asalu edu kondalani Govt control cheyatame boothu. It is the private property of Lord Venkanna. Govt mahaa aithe trust form chesi, independent agency tho audit cheyinchali ante. Alantidi TTD ni rajakeeya punaravasa sibiram chesaru.

Constitution lo anni cheppakkarledu, common sense vadali.
Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi..

What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Seenu454:

prathi sari karunakar reddy TPT janalu annedhi chiraku ga undi vinadaniki


cheppina matane 10 sarllu chepithe appudanna kontha mandiki anna ekkuddi... in which way we are driving by supporting non-hindus in that area.
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tammudu how r u??
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Sanman:

tirumala lo private homes levaa ? anni ttd owned or leased aa ?




Meru thirumala ni Tirupathi to confuse avutunnara?
Thirumala ante Konda paina place, I think there are no private homes in Thirumala.
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manam ila conditions pettukuntunnam kabatte mana gathi ila vundi. ade vere vallu ilantivi emi choosukokunda unite ga vuntaru kabatte mana desam ila thagaladindi.




Annai aala meedha serious ga ellali antha kanna enka emi cheyali prathi sari karunakar reddy TPT janalu annedhi chiraku ga undi vinadaniki
Just4fun ----- Rajareddy appatlone BIG FARMER. vandala acres farming lands undevi
rajusk ---- telisina ventane avi vapas ichesaru..endukante avi Assigned lands kabatti
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Tilak tammudu yekkada ee thread lo?
RahulGandhi/JP/Chiru
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Konda meedha vere mathala pracharam annedhi tappu and adhi chesindi kuda TTD employees avadam enka ghoram anthe gani karunakar reddy gelichinadaniki aa 3 employees ki link etti malli TPT janalani anadam maneyandi evaru freedom fighters nu emi MLA laga chesukoni ampadam ledu


manam ila conditions pettukuntunnam kabatte mana gathi ila vundi. ade vere vallu ilantivi emi choosukokunda unite ga vuntaru kabatte mana desam ila thagaladindi.
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Bunty717:

x'ans enduku chestaaru..




Spreading of God's word is very important tenet in Christianity and Islam. alot of followers take it very seriously, need less to say the powers in Christianity have made it a very lucrative business, so you see more zeal in Christians.
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Sanman:

tirumala lo private homes levaa ? anni ttd owned or leased aa ?




yes, there cannot be any private homes in Tirumala, everything is under TTD, kaani dheeni lo kooda konni losugulu unnayi, a private party can build a guest house and donate it to TTD, and they can use the home for 30 days. many "VIP"s build and pay 11 month interest and use it all through out the year :d
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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Karunakar REddy gadini gelipinchina Tirupathi janalaki siggu ledu mundu




Konda meedha vere mathala pracharam annedhi tappu and adhi chesindi kuda TTD employees avadam enka ghoram anthe gani karunakar reddy gelichinadaniki aa 3 employees ki link etti malli TPT janalani anadam maneyandi evaru freedom fighters nu emi MLA laga chesukoni ampadam ledu
Just4fun ----- Rajareddy appatlone BIG FARMER. vandala acres farming lands undevi
rajusk ---- telisina ventane avi vapas ichesaru..endukante avi Assigned lands kabatti
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Hinduism lo ee head count penchatam concept undaa..
x'ans enduku chestaaru..

volunterr ga convert ayite ok.. ilaa forcing/luring enduku chestaaru

eti ee kakoothi vellaki..
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Raman:

basu tirumala belongs to venkanna


tirumala lo private homes levaa ? anni ttd owned or leased aa ?
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itta koosinanduke helicopter lechindi


whatever i am talking about legalities not opinions. btw huj and israel subsidies are unconstitutional

Article 27 Freedom as to payment of taxes for promotion of any particular religion
No person shall be compelled to pay any taxes, the proceeds of which are specifically appropriated in payment of expenses for the promotion or maintenance of any particular religion or religious denomination.
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Sanman:


basu tirumala belongs to venkanna ani govt go undi adi okasari kadu already chala sarlu vachindi
then it is a private property inka school museyyi
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Kdnumber1:

itta sepite ne evadu dekandi me ring leader JPio ni


andhuke uneducateds ki cheppakunda mostly educateds unna db lo cheptunna. btw i dont care about JP. i just feel there should be more leaders like him instead of power brokers like cbn and jagan
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i am all for sanctity of a holy place. just want to know how it is enforced and if there needs to be better ways to do it without violating the constitutional rights of other religions




allowed areas lo ekkadaina prachaaram chesukovachu ani non hindu religions' rights aithe, tirumala and surrounding areas lo anya mata pracharam cheyakoodadu ani rule undi. so hindu dharmaanni gouravinchadam min responsibility kada. how is it violation of constitutional rights of non hindu religion? In fact, it is mere violation of hindu religion rights. 7 kondalu lo 5 kondalu maave anentha range ki vellindi aa pogaru kondariki. chas!
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>>gudi gurinchi cheppadam ledhu. tirumala mottam private property kaadhu kadha.

itta koosinanduke helicopter lechindi
Who is this DB member?
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Tirupati public ee hindu mathaniki middle finger chooincharu. inka endi... lite thhesukondi. ofcourse manam lite theesukunna theesukoka poyina hindu mathanni poortiga nakinchestaru. don't worry we will see that day soon.
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Sanman:

Every citizen of India has a right to practice and promote their religion peacefully. It does not say anything about where and when.
25 (1) Subject to public order, morality and health and to the other provisions of this Part, all persons are equally entitled to freedom of conscience and the right freely to profess, practise and propagate religion.
(2) Nothing in this article shall affect the operation of any existing law or prevent the State from making any law-
(a) regulating or restricting any economic financial political or other secular activity which may be associated with religious practice;
(b) Providing for social welfare and reform or the throwing open of Hindu religious institutions of a public character to all classes and sections of Hindus.
Explanation I. The wearing and carrying of Kirpans shall be deemed to be included in the profession of the Sikh religion.




itta sepite ne evadu dekandi me ring leader JPio ni

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Nippu:

constitution lo tirumala is only hindu land ani vundadu.


Every citizen of India has a right to practice and promote their religion peacefully. It does not say anything about where and when.
25 (1) Subject to public order, morality and health and to the other provisions of this Part, all persons are equally entitled to freedom of conscience and the right freely to profess, practise and propagate religion.
(2) Nothing in this article shall affect the operation of any existing law or prevent the State from making any law-
(a) regulating or restricting any economic financial political or other secular activity which may be associated with religious practice;
(b) Providing for social welfare and reform or the throwing open of Hindu religious institutions of a public character to all classes and sections of Hindus.
Explanation I. The wearing and carrying of Kirpans shall be deemed to be included in the profession of the Sikh religion.


Subject to public order annadhi okkate kaadhu. Kaani vaallu prachaaram chesukunte disturbance create chesedhi Hindus. Public order anedhi vague term. Aa reason cheppi ganesh nimajjanam kuda ban cheyochu repu oka non hindu govt vasthe
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Methati_idly:

oorini ilati rules kuda untaya..parledeyy manollu maree antha boku gallu kadu




mana kaada rule anni vuntay...

inko rule 4 u

badi ki gudi ki daggaralo liquor shop etta kudadu, amma kudadu, taaga kudadu ani

kaani evadu pedda ga pattinchukodu
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Methati_idly:

oorini ilati rules kuda untaya..parledeyy manollu maree antha boku gallu kadu


tirupathi is money spinner kada aamatram jagrathalu teeskuntaru le
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Tirumala tho paatu 19 temples n sorunding premisis lo anya mata pracharam nishedam by AP state Govt.


oorini ilati rules kuda untaya..parledeyy manollu maree antha boku gallu kadu
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Karunakar REddy gadini gelipinchina Tirupathi janalaki siggu ledu mundu
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doesn't mean anything. an officer cannot take away your constitutional rights. //

constitution lo tirumala is only hindu land ani vundadu.

valla terminology lo vuntundhi.

danni use chesukune govt go pass chestundhi.

evadikanna problem vunte court kee velalli.

seppu nee problem enti ?
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Sanman:




Tirumala tho paatu 19 temples n sorunding premisis lo anya mata pracharam nishedam by AP state Govt.

so as per LAW anya matha pracharam seyya kudadu....

ee 3 ni Tirumala nundi Tirupathi ki X-fer sesina bapiraju....maree show cause/suspession/fine/jail lantivi evi lekunda ila naaa
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Taurus0807:

Mastaru for your information other religion campaign is officially banned in Tirumala


doesn't mean anything. an officer cannot take away your constitutional rights.

Raman:

mundarninche for 100s of years private property vaddanna govt invlove ayyindi money nokkesindi kada ..


gudi gurinchi cheppadam ledhu. tirumala mottam private property kaadhu kadha.
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Sanman:

when is tirumala private property


mundarninche for 100s of years private property vaddanna govt invlove ayyindi money nokkesindi kada ..

Ayina tirumala public property ani evaru sepparu neeki?
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Sanman:

that is private property. they can have their own rules. since when is tirumala private property ? i am all for sanctity of a holy place. just want to know how it is enforced and if there needs to be better ways to do it without violating the constitutional rights of other religions




Mastaru for your information other religion campaign is officially banned in Tirumala
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eellandaru divangatha donga gaari hayaam lo bhu ka re dvaara recruit aina batch ani pratyekam ga seppakkarledu




tpt janalaki adhey samma ga undhi ... aa bhu ka re ne uregistharu inka ...
2get and 2give may create problems, not 4get and 4give ... so double it up
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Raman:

nevvelli maseedulo bible chadavayya


that is private property. they can have their own rules. since when is tirumala private property ? i am all for sanctity of a holy place. just want to know how it is enforced and if there needs to be better ways to do it without violating the constitutional rights of other religions
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Sanman:


nevvelli maseedulo bible chadavayya
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Tirumala lo endhuku anya matha prachaaram jaraga koodadhu ? It is part of India. Endhuku jaragakudadhu anna prasna pakkana pedithe tirumala ki ee status eppati nundi vachindhi? what other religious places in India have such provisions ?
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chooddam



paristhithulu saanukulam avutunnayi .. aakulu bala padaali inka ..
India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda
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thu jaffa nayalau. ttd lo x-ian pracharam eti.
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Aaa Edu kondalu vade manni inka kapadali. Denemma jeevitham, Tirumala ni kuda vadalledu.

Manamu Hindu matha pracharam vatican lo cheste mannalni emi chestaru antaru?
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Dharunam. Ennalo sagavule veella agathyalu. Veellani oka room lo nuki valla vuncha valla chethe thaginchi food pettakunda vunchali oka varam patu
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thu...

Ippude ilaa unte...repu Jagga adhikaarankiki vasthe...veellani aapalem...
TDP For 2014.
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picha lite they will get promotions seee
Hello world "corruption",Narco Nakko Jagan Intl
Asato ma sad gamaya
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chooddam
Guriginja(22896):jagan is chandraguptha mourya with the brain of koutilya.
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http://oi46.tinypic.com/vf9ym8.jpg

converson pracharam....eti sestaru ella 3 ni....any strict laws r there to punnish them ???

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