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baaga chepparu




Sri ante ne Lakshmi devi kada..why is that not complete..
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mee mansulo emi korika undo naki etta telstundi ..?
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Srimannarayana is also incomplete without Lakshmi devi



baaga chepparu
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manasulo oka korika kooda raadu ..


ante memu andaram roju list pedtham..peddayaanaki..for consideration..
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gudiki velta god ki dannapettaka manasulo oka korika kooda raadu ..
other than that ...inkemi ledu religious activity
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Almost close ante pay check lo anukunnara?




pay check kaadu..religious beliefs sangathe
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emiti close to Hyder...

Hyder kurrod DB ..lo septhadu kaani..

Venkanna vigrahalu NJ vasthe 1000 dollars ticket koni..first unnadu..



sess

Almost close ante pay check lo anukunnara?desi company employs ni insult sethunnaru sir meeru
BTW nenu deniki vyatireki kadu ..
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almost close to Mr Hyder kakapote




emiti close to Hyder...

Hyder kurrod DB ..lo septhadu kaani..

Venkanna vigrahalu NJ vasthe 1000 dollars ticket koni..first unnadu..
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almost close to Mr Hyder kakapote
kaani deep ga ellanu no vyatirekam to any thing ..
naluguritobatu narayana 100 mandito kaliste jesus ok naa?
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Jiyyar himself questioning religious pujaris etc. Jiyyar ki opposite undhi kooda religous gurus ye. Why this kolaveri




MODS q'ing MODS laaga .. tappu ledu
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I wonder Jiyyar em chaduvukunnado like real education? English terms baane vaadtaru, computer kooda baane vaadatharu




itanu MSc
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migata vallaki adi papam ..


nuvvu evarini poojisthaav?
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already last 10 years paina ee godava jarugutondi
Sr most jeeyar garu ok annaru eeyana addu cheptunnaru
commercialization ki vyatirekamga unnaru eeyana.

naki telsu Sivuni kooda poojinchina ekaika vaishnavacharyulu eeyane

migata vallaki adi papam ..
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Thelegend:

Jiyyar himself questioning religious pujaris etc. Jiyyar ki opposite undhi kooda religous gurus ye. Why this kolaveri




10 scientist unte opinion differences untai..idi alantide..emundi akkada comment ki? evadiki ardham ayyindi vadu correct anukuntadu sastram ni
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Mav ee news meedha comment enti?

http://sakshi.com/main/FullStory.aspx?catid=314784&Categoryi d=14&subcatid=0

Jiyyar himself questioning religious pujaris etc. Jiyyar ki opposite undhi kooda religous gurus ye. Why this kolaveri
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I wonder Jiyyar em chaduvukunnado like real education? English terms baane vaadtaru, computer kooda baane vaadatharu
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I have been following jeeyar swamy ( not as his bhakth) since 1996. (6 lo oka religious discourse attend ayina.. He gave a lengthy discourse on vedantha and upanishad.Total grandikam and padyalu and what not. Bhakthulu for first hour so interest tho innaru devotion and in the next hour so people started taking breaks and leaving..

jeeyar changed a lot sicne then. Recent ga boston lo malli oka discoourse vinna..Washington,Obama gurinchi ekkuva hinduism gurinchi takkuva maatladi short time lo lecture complete chesadu.. Bhakthulu likes this way.He commercilaized over the years and it is not his fault. He is just singing as per the tunes of bhakthulu.

In today's world,I think the major challenge of any matha guruvu is that they have to package salvation in an easy way.. lekunte matha guruvu ki bhakthulu undaru.
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Muddamandaram:

if he accepts it is okay. Flaunting it is what I question him coz he preaches not to do that.




annai..The issue here is with bhakthaganam. I have seen people spending lavishly just to gain visibility in JET ( jeeyar aashramam). I think jeeyar goes along with what his bhakthulu does. Chadastham chuyinchi speechulu kodithe same bhakthulu will go to another Matha guruvu where their way is accepted. Bhakthula turnover reduce cheyataniki ala chesthad anukuntunna not to flaunt.
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Anni religionslonuuu questioning settunnaaru.

Fatherila child molestation cases bataku vacheva kreestu sodarulu urukunteee.

Ekkada tappu jarigina khandinchaali.
Edanna diff of opinions untee debate cheyaali.
Koncham hinduism lo toleranceekkuva. Anteyy.
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getaaa

if he accepts it is okay. Flaunting it is what I question him coz he preaches not to do that.

AW babagoru ferraari veskuni tbezawada loo tirigaadu. Malli sai baba anttaventi.

jeeyans are the keepers of the temple of Venkateswara.
They safeguard and look after all the puja vidhanams and rituals are followed strictly.

Deento malla sects unnaayi. Uttaraadi dakshinaadi ani.
China jeeyan is dakshinadi rep. Uttaradi vaalla hava nadustondi tirumala lo ippudu.
Difference betn the 2 is namam Y and namam U .
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Simba:

US lo only rich people intike enduku visit chestadu? Is it because they can afford him?




atla ani emi ledu anukunta. He will visit to anyone's house if proper arrangements made and if his schedule permits.
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mav
other religions lo fear of judgement day
mana daantlo idhi kaka pothay inko janma undhi kadha
so we question more anukuntunna
Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall,Humpty Dumpty had a great fall
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Maverick:

.vere religions lo moosukoni koorchuntaru...


that is only islam.
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Thelegend:

Between maa sadaru uncle and his circle nityananda ki kooda baane samarpinchu kunnaru




Nithy gaadu soosthenee donga kollu pattevaadu laa vuntaadu.

Eeyana parvaaledhu.

But Ganapathi Sachidhanandaa and eeyana are very dabbu manushulu

Inkodu vunnadu. Viswaguru Viswamjeee ani


all the gurus stay in USA from Gurupoornima and India lo valla demand ni batti max ikkadee vuntaaaru
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hinduism lo religion ambasadors ni question cheyyadam ekkuva..vere religions lo moosukoni koorchuntaru...
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http://www.yupptv.com/jeeyar_channel_live.html :-)

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Recently


evado TV news channel vaadu edho jeeyar cartoon veste bhaktulu oogipoyi email program petti youtube lo links kooda peekichesaru :-).
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Andhrawala:

Pay the price tag and he will come to anyone's house.




that was our point.

Between maa sadaru uncle and his circle nityananda ki kooda baane samarpinchu kunnaru
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Recently they hosted Jeeyar channel :-)
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Simba:

US lo only rich people intike enduku visit chestadu? Is it because they can afford him?




Pay the price tag and he will come to anyone's house.

He has no discrimination.


If u cant afford u can visit him at freind's place where he goes or at the local temple
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Getafix:

Ferari or benz carlu Chinna jeeyar swamy adagadu.. bhakthulu offer jesthar and he accepts. Bhakthulu offer jesina oddu ani madi kattukuni kurchunte ado problem.. being a guruvu he disriminates ani..sare ani accept jesthe money picchodu ani problem.




Unlike Puttaparthi Baba, Chinna jeeyar doesnt raom in cars or live a lavish life style
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Getafix:

being a guruvu he disriminates ani



US lo only rich people intike enduku visit chestadu? Is it because they can afford him?
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Simba:

anni donga telivithetalu undi, antha black money sampadinthetollu, ilantola meeda etla kharchu pedatharo samaj kaadu.




Paapa beethi


Ilaantolla meedha karsuu pedithe papalaa chitta clear ayyipothundhi ani nammakam


Sinnappudu Gunanidhi kathaa vinaledhaaa. Sarva paapaalu sesi sivarthri naadu jagaram, upavasam vundi prasadam thini kailaasaanikelledu ani.

adhee inspiration
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Xxx:

Religion has become a business brothe


okay, adhi Jiyyar, inc. I agree :-)
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Ferari or benz carlu Chinna jeeyar swamy adagadu.. bhakthulu offer jesthar and he accepts. Bhakthulu offer jesina oddu ani madi kattukuni kurchunte ado problem.. being a guruvu he disriminates ani..sare ani accept jesthe money picchodu ani problem.
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Chinna jeeyar swamy valla thathagaru undevaru 80s lo pedda jeeyar swamy ani.. nobody knows that he existed but chinna jeeyar swamy ante ivala andariki telsu... diference is he consumerized bhakthi. My grand mother was huge follower of pedda jeeyar swamy.aame cheppedi how ascetic he used to be...ascetism tho paatu chaadastham kuda chuyinchevadu ani..

Chnna jeeyar swamy is modernized and he is involving people across castes and spreading gods word.. entha guruvu ayina karchulu untai gadhaa.. public edo okati decide avvali ee guruvul vishayam lo. Chadastham ga unte problem sare gadha ani liberal ga untu pani jesukunna probleme..
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Xxx:

black money, illegal money etc etc sir ... they have no problem in giving , and let him take it ,



anni donga telivithetalu undi, antha black money sampadinthetollu, ilantola meeda etla kharchu pedatharo samaj kaadu. They can do the charities (at least, donate to) themselves, right? Edho punyam vastundi ani aasinche kadaa, ilanti vaallanu encourage chestaru. I think, Babas are right medicine for their foolishness.
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Enduko eppudu benz car unna rich valla intloneu untadu




Religion has become a business brother .. that is the only way to survive ; peace ..
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Simba:

Ee money charities kosam (mee punyam kosam kaadu) ante, laccha rupayalu icchi kaallu mokke bhakthulu untaara?




neeku telvadu..maa relatives unnaru..they visit Ganapati Sach********..

ayana deal endante..$10,000 for visiting home...all the way from the car ..into the house..kotha pattu cheeralu veyyala..on his walking path..

intlo paada pooja ki additional $2500 anukonta...
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Simba:

laccha rupayalu icchi kaallu mokke bhakthulu untaara




black money, illegal money etc etc sir ... they have no problem in giving , and let him take it ,

No one like you and me will spare a dime to him
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eeyanani maa uncle intlone chusa couple of times. Enduko eppudu benz car unna rich valla intloneu untadu.

pelli cheskoledu, hinduism spread chestunnadu, charity chestunnadu ilanti examples vaddhu le, ivanne chala chusam.
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Xxx:

what other ways should he do ? and who is going to give that kind of money if he does not have it?



Ee money charities kosam (mee punyam kosam kaadu) ante, laccha rupayalu icchi kaallu mokke bhakthulu untaara?
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Xxx:



Vanity is not for so called saints.

I will not ask him to come walking. But this kind of flashing ur riches is not warranted.
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Muddamandaram:

Vjwadaki Ferrariloo




so you want him to come on a cycle? K A paul own flight maintain chestunnadu sir
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Muddamandaram:

having a rate for for such silly acts takes




:-) what other ways should he do ? and who is going to give that kind of money if he does not have it?
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China Jeeyar good intentions or good deeds meeda evariki problem undadu saaaru.

Vjwadaki Ferrariloo vasteyyy kaaaluddaa kaaladaaaaa.
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Thelegend:

that's what all those kind tells you. Is it what "all the money" is used for?




He is not married, and all he does is trying to spread hinduism, without money how will an organization survive these days?
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So Veerappam adavilo gandham chetlu kotti enugulu sampi ee panalanni sestey is it noble.?????
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Dma:

They use it for Charity.


that's what all those kind tells you. Is it what "all the money" is used for?
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Dma:




Doing all these is okay.

But having a rate for for such silly acts takes away the nobility of the deeds u do.
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Rajusk:



Boorjuvaa swaamulu maakoddu.
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Muddamandaram:

CCDB nunchi oka kotta swamyni ennukuntey baavuntundi.




selected long time byaack..

Telugu Times ae CCDB Baba goru

adi kooda teliyakonda inni rojulu DBing ki permission evaru icharu meeku assalu
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Muddamandaram:

Kaaliki dannam pettukovalantey 1.5 lakh,
Mee intiki raavalantey 9 lakh fees.




They use it for Charity.

Jeeyar education Trust runs:

- runs a Veda Shcool.
- runs school for blind
- runs schools for Tribal kids in deep down forests where govt does not even have basic necessities, etc.
- a lot more charity activites
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Immotional_hatyachar:

does ne one know why they r fighting?




Did not even know there was an issue going on ...

MM,
Srimannarayana is also incomplete without Lakshmi devi :-)
Beauty is life when life unveils her holy face. But you are life and you are the veil...
Beauty is eternity gazing at itself in a mirror. But you are eternity and you are the mirror!
-Kahlil Gibran
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CCDB nunchi oka kotta swamyni ennukuntey baavuntundi.
Lead contenders are
Senapathy (all Ropunder)
Ot(Koncham age gauge undi kaabatt)
Gagu(Ee prapanchikaanikantey saana faast) Sarva Snaga Parityaagi
Cocanad(Only Wiki Dber kanuka)
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Publicity pichoduuuu.

Kaaliki dannam pettukovalantey 1.5 lakh,
Mee intiki raavalantey 9 lakh fees.

Jai Sreemannnaarayana.
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does ne one know why they r fighting?
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