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Urumi
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Post Number: 24 Registered: 12-2011 Posted From: 173.48.193.193
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 06:16 pm: |
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Mrhyderabad:Recent gaa vza govt hospital lo 10+ new born kids power leka chanipoyaaru. Similar incident in another place in AP few months ago.
bheeshmudu valla annalu type emo..ashta vasuvulu |
   
Anand_n
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Post Number: 10995 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 06:03 pm: |
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Okahyderabadi:enti San Antonio nundi NJ ki bus lona
LOL that would give me a lot of reading time wouldn't it business, not the road bus aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Okahyderabadi
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Post Number: 3490 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 157.130.154.114
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 05:57 pm: |
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Mrhyderabad:Anand_n: but next week NJ bus trip padettu undi
enti San Antonio nundi NJ ki bus lona In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day |
   
Chitti_v2
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Post Number: 2829 Registered: 01-2011 Posted From: 160.83.72.209
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if all is kurma, u r poori |
   
Anand_n
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Post Number: 10992 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 05:03 pm: |
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Okahyderabadi:ain't everything if that is the case? science too? we created science, we create reference values ahnd build theories and prove them. everything from concept of time to infinity is a theory that we somehow prove to be true
Sure And we have the liberty to validate or negate those when evidence presents itself - that is the definition of a theory kada
Mrhyderabad:mail cheyandi NJ vasthe
will do once plans finalize  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Okahyderabadi
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Post Number: 3463 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 157.130.154.114
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 04:17 pm: |
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Anand_n:We both speak the same language...its a theory and its man made is what I think too
ain't everything if that is the case? science too? we created science, we create reference values ahnd build theories and prove them. everything from concept of time to infinity is a theory that we somehow prove to be true  In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day |
   
Oohlala
Comedian Username: Oohlala
Post Number: 1741 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 173.37.200.7
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 03:59 pm: |
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Mrhyderabad:mail cheyandi NJ vasthe
enduku one month taruvatha ippude mail choosanu ani reply ivvadanika  |
   
Mrhyderabad
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Post Number: 8010 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 98.221.83.14
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 03:42 pm: |
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Anand_n:but next week NJ bus trip padettu undi
mail cheyandi NJ vasthe  Don't say you don't have enough time. You have exactly the same number of hours per day that were given to Helen Keller, Pasteur, Michaelangelo, Mother Teresea, Leonardo da Vinci, Thomas Jefferson, and Albert Einstein |
   
Anand_n
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Post Number: 10988 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 03:02 pm: |
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Nisarga:these kind of non falsifiable theories can be constructed aplenty. it would be more interesting to understand what necessitated or how these kind of theories were brought about.
We both speak the same language...its a theory and its man made is what I think too
Nisarga:introduction to ancient Indian history by DD Kosambi try chesara? whats ur take on his interpretations of mythology?
Chadavaledu andi - but next week NJ bus trip padettu undi and may have time to catch up on reading - online link or pdf unda and how big is it ? Nisarga:how does it matter when there is no continuity in identity!!! what does it predict!! it is just used to maintain the status guo and make people accept the adversity.
Anduke continuing identity at the soul level - another unverifiable entity- ofcourse there are people ewho claim the ability to verify that  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Okahyderabadi
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Post Number: 3450 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 157.130.154.114
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 02:08 pm: |
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Immotional_hatyachar:is God there to give the hope/belief that truth will win in the end and do not loose ur confidence... all the things r being recorded... work ur way towards moksha?
recorded or not the idea is to attain moksha follow a principled life in the path of dharma - remember the 'dharmavyadha' story from bhagavatam. In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day |
   
Okahyderabadi
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Post Number: 3449 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 157.130.154.114
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Bunty717:
Bunty717:
why laughing Bunty? In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day |
   
Okahyderabadi
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Post Number: 3448 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 157.130.154.114
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 02:04 pm: |
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Nisarga:how does it matter when there is no continuity in identity!!! what does it predict!! it is just used to maintain the status guo and make people accept the adversity.
welcome to the thread. good point In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day |
   
Immotional_hatyachar
Comedian Username: Immotional_hatyachar
Post Number: 1504 Registered: 05-2011 Posted From: 204.14.239.210
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 01:50 pm: |
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is God there to give the hope/belief that truth will win in the end and do not loose ur confidence... all the things r being recorded... work ur way towards moksha? is he like mom/dad who gives you that good feeling when u express ur pains to them? |
   
Nisarga
Junior Artist Username: Nisarga
Post Number: 402 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 123.237.220.72
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 01:45 pm: |
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Anand, introduction to ancient Indian history by DD Kosambi try chesara? whats ur take on his interpretations of mythology? |
   
Oohlala
Comedian Username: Oohlala
Post Number: 1738 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 173.37.200.7
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 01:40 pm: |
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Mrhyderabad:Why not? at least as per hindu phila you should, right? As per Gita n other sacred texts, life n death are fully controlled by vishnu/siva, right?
nope, karma antunnaru theists, athesists own doing antunnaru...everyone is speaking the same language anukuntunna  |
   
Oohlala
Comedian Username: Oohlala
Post Number: 1737 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 173.37.200.7
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 01:38 pm: |
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Mrhyderabad:But the day will come when science can answer every question i guess
proabably but religion will still survive because it will
Nisarga:make people accept the adversity
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Bunty717
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Post Number: 22499 Registered: 02-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 01:37 pm: |
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Mrhyderabad
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Post Number: 8009 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 98.221.83.14
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 01:36 pm: |
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Oohlala:theists also don't attribute tragedies to God either.....
Why not? at least as per hindu phila you should, right? As per Gita n other sacred texts, life n death are fully controlled by vishnu/siva, right? Don't say you don't have enough time. You have exactly the same number of hours per day that were given to Helen Keller, Pasteur, Michaelangelo, Mother Teresea, Leonardo da Vinci, Thomas Jefferson, and Albert Einstein |
   
Nisarga
Junior Artist Username: Nisarga
Post Number: 401 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 123.237.220.72
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 01:26 pm: |
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Nisarga:Anand_n: That is the beauty of karma siddhanta - it is because of their actions in past birth All people whose prarabdham is set to complete at a time , are congregated in a calamity zone for efficiency People with a small loan instalment pay it off an leave at an early age Within itself it is a complete theory - you cannot poke holes in it how does it matter when there is no continuity in identity!!! what does it predict!! it is just used to maintain the status guo and make people accept the adversity.
these kind of non falsifiable theories can be constructed aplenty. it would be more interesting to understand what necessitated or how these kind of theories were brought about. |
   
Nisarga
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Post Number: 400 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 123.237.220.72
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 01:22 pm: |
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Oohlala:Sis, I think most of us assume prayer to be a good deed I.e with good intention and expectation, but mostly for selfish or personal reasons. That's why I feel prayer cannot accumulate good or neutralize bad karma. Lokakalyanam intent tho prayer chesina, there is no action involved kada, so how can it affect karma. It might give you the strength or focus to 'do' something good.
would there be a prayer sans seeking? btw, i am not sis, but bro . |
   
Mrhyderabad
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Post Number: 8008 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 98.221.83.14
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 01:21 pm: |
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Oohlala:but none of these four will give you an answer to those questions
Science has answered many questions till date... of course there are lot more to answer. But the day will come when science can answer every question i guess. May not happen in our life time though... Religion has the same standard answer for these questions from the day it was born (or created). Look at how many questions have been answered by Science in the last 200 years. If humans have only embraced religion and didn't pursue science then human life might have been extinct by now IMO. (Ref'ing to wide spead diseases that had potential to wipe us out many times) Don't say you don't have enough time. You have exactly the same number of hours per day that were given to Helen Keller, Pasteur, Michaelangelo, Mother Teresea, Leonardo da Vinci, Thomas Jefferson, and Albert Einstein |
   
Nisarga
Junior Artist Username: Nisarga
Post Number: 399 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 123.237.220.72
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 01:18 pm: |
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Anand_n:That is the beauty of karma siddhanta - it is because of their actions in past birth All people whose prarabdham is set to complete at a time , are congregated in a calamity zone for efficiency People with a small loan instalment pay it off an leave at an early age Within itself it is a complete theory - you cannot poke holes in it
how does it matter when there is no continuity in identity!!! what does it predict!! it is just used to maintain the status guo and make people accept the adversity. |
   
Okahyderabadi
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Post Number: 3445 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 157.130.154.114
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 01:14 pm: |
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Anand_n:Ikkada konchem dissonance undi ... you are born with a balance and have to pay it off and when its done you are at the end of the rebirth cycle(kind of like born a sinner and pay it off except over multiple births).
ok here is my take we are born with a balance - it could be our balance or somebody has done some karma against us or you have done some karma against somebody in previous life which needs to be repaid by either of us - karma kaali iddaru are born even though only one party is guilty here. final ga ekkado oka chota equal avutundi
Anand_n:Prarabdham is apportioned based on how many janmas kada - is this number of instalments fixed to arrive at the amount ? Early payment thru extra suffering unda? Reason I ask-Remember the story of Jaya & Vijaya getting the choice of being born as good guys for 7 janmas or evil for 3 to pay off a curse - how does that math work ?
jaya vijaya vruttantam lo, 7 janmala bhakti or 3 janmala vairam at the end 'moksha' - blanket varam annamaata. so irrespective of what you do you will get moksha. jaya vijayulu swami nundi 7 janmala edabatu bharichaleka 3 janmala vairam chalu anukunnaru. The result is they are born to hate the lord but are thinking about him every second of their existence In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day |
   
Oohlala
Comedian Username: Oohlala
Post Number: 1735 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 173.37.200.7
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 01:09 pm: |
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Mrhyderabad:ilaanti heart wrenching tragedies (esp related to kids) vinnappudu antaa how do theists answer themselves?
I think we are all on the same page Hyder....just like atheists believe whatever they are today is of your own merit/hardwork/karma and not because of any merciful God....theists also don't attribute tragedies to God either..... |
   
Anand_n
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Post Number: 10987 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 01:07 pm: |
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Okahyderabadi:the good things that are done to people are due to their good karma and the karma of the people who are doing it and similarly bad things get done to them due to their own bad karma or bad karma of the people who are doing it.
Ikkada konchem dissonance undi ... you are born with a balance and have to pay it off and when its done you are at the end of the rebirth cycle(kind of like born a sinner and pay it off except over multiple births). Prarabdham is apportioned based on how many janmas kada - is this number of instalments fixed to arrive at the amount ? Early payment thru extra suffering unda? Reason I ask-Remember the story of Jaya & Vijaya getting the choice of being born as good guys for 7 janmas or evil for 3 to pay off a curse - how does that math work ?  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Getafix
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Post Number: 9127 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 01:06 pm: |
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Hoospitals lo patients lack of recources valla chachipothe daniki devudu em chesthadu.. it is totally on the persons operating hospital and reegulatory institution overseeing it. Monna calcutta lo oka private hospital lo fire valla chala mandi poyaru.. daaniki devudi ki link pedathama? But.. i kind see your point in regards to Tsunami though.. if God is really there then why didnt he/she came down and stopped the tsunami with his little finger or atleast he/she could have balled up the waves and sent them to Saturn or jupiter.. |
   
Okahyderabadi
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Post Number: 3444 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 157.130.154.114
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Oohlala:My answer is simple. Religion survives because it answers three questions that every reflective person must ask. Who am I? Why am I here? How then shall I live? We will always ask those three questions because homo sapiens is the meaning-seeking animal, and religion has always been our greatest heritage of meaning. You can take science, technology, the liberal democratic state and the market economy as four institutions that characterise modernity, but none of these four will give you an answer to those questions that humans ask.
so ultimately it boils down to what you believe and don't In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day |
   
Oohlala
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Post Number: 1734 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 173.37.200.7
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 12:57 pm: |
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Masularex:but I agree that religion is a hogwash now. we have more convincing answers for our mundane questions and these answers negate existence of any type of super natural thing.
reminded me of this article I read recently.... The Limits of Secularism http://standpointmag.co.uk/node/4264/full a few excerpts: We must ask ourselves why this is, because it is actually very odd indeed. Think about it: every function that was once performed by religion can now be done by something else. In other words, if you want to explain the world, you don't need Genesis; you have science. If you want to control the world, you don't need prayer; you have technology. If you want to prosper, you don't necessarily seek God's blessing; you have the global economy. You want to control power, you no longer need prophets; you have liberal democracy and elections. If you're ill, you don't need a priest; you can go to a doctor. If you feel guilty, you don't have to confess; you can go to a psychotherapist instead. If you're depressed, you don't need faith; you can take a pill. If you still need salvation, you can go to today's cathedrals, the shopping centres of Britain — or as one American writer calls them, weapons of mass consumption. Religion seems superfluous, redundant, de trop. Why then does it survive? My answer is simple. Religion survives because it answers three questions that every reflective person must ask. Who am I? Why am I here? How then shall I live? We will always ask those three questions because homo sapiens is the meaning-seeking animal, and religion has always been our greatest heritage of meaning. You can take science, technology, the liberal democratic state and the market economy as four institutions that characterise modernity, but none of these four will give you an answer to those questions that humans ask. |
   
Okahyderabadi
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Post Number: 3443 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 157.130.154.114
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 12:57 pm: |
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Mrhyderabad:Recent gaa vza govt hospital lo 10+ new born kids power leka chanipoyaaru. Similar incident in another place in AP few months ago. Countless incidents of young girls (4-6 years of age) gang raped n sometimes killed ilaanti heart wrenching tragedies (esp related to kids) vinnappudu antaa how do theists answer themselves? Past life lo bhayanak deeds chesi vuntaaru so they get this kind of fate ani answer chesukuntaaraa? God/Supreme power vunnadu but he doesn't interfere in day to day activities ani nammutaaraa? If that's the case then who writes the fate? or God some kind of robust automated program rasi vuntaadaa to decide the date based on past life deeds?
anni savyamga jarigite evariki credit istaro jaraganappudu vallane blamce cheyale kada tammi. Whether you believe it or nor is your choice, enno manchi panulu kooda jarugtunnayi lokam lo, avanni manchi valla valana jarutunnai ani meeru nammite, chedu jarigevi dushtula valla jarutayi ani nammali. what karma siddhantists believe in is, the good things that are done to people are due to their good karma and the karma of the people who are doing it and similarly bad things get done to them due to their own bad karma or bad karma of the people who are doing it. In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day |
   
Mrhyderabad
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Post Number: 8007 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 98.221.83.14
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 12:49 pm: |
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Recent gaa vza govt hospital lo 10+ new born kids power leka chanipoyaaru. Similar incident in another place in AP few months ago. Countless incidents of young girls (4-6 years of age) gang raped n sometimes killed ilaanti heart wrenching tragedies (esp related to kids) vinnappudu antaa how do theists answer themselves? Past life lo bhayanak deeds chesi vuntaaru so they get this kind of fate ani answer chesukuntaaraa? God/Supreme power vunnadu but he doesn't interfere in day to day activities ani nammutaaraa? If that's the case then who writes the fate? or God some kind of robust automated program rasi vuntaadaa to decide the date based on past life deeds? Don't say you don't have enough time. You have exactly the same number of hours per day that were given to Helen Keller, Pasteur, Michaelangelo, Mother Teresea, Leonardo da Vinci, Thomas Jefferson, and Albert Einstein |
   
Okahyderabadi
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Post Number: 3441 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 157.130.154.114
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 12:48 pm: |
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Anand_n:That is the beauty of karma siddhanta - it is because of their actions in past birth:-) All people whose prarabdham is set to complete at a time , are congregated in a calamity zone for efficiency :-)
 In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day |
   
Anand_n
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Post Number: 10986 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150
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Mrhyderabad:
That is the beauty of karma siddhanta - it is because of their actions in past birth All people whose prarabdham is set to complete at a time , are congregated in a calamity zone for efficiency People with a small loan instalment pay it off an leave at an early age Within itself it is a complete theory - you cannot poke holes in it  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Humpty_dumpty
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Post Number: 18240 Registered: 02-2009
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Anand_n:
karma sidhantham antha ledu andi, I am talking about te frst one only ee balance kooda oka scheme It is not that complicated to realize if our actions are good or bad |
   
Okahyderabadi
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Post Number: 3440 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 157.130.154.114
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Mrhyderabad:Question for those who strongly believe in Karma siddanth(including rollover effects from past life karma).. how would you answer the Haiti or Tsunami or any other events where thousands get killed in an instant. What did they do wrong to deserve such a fate? or should we simply exclude natural disasters from this philosophy? Okavela natural disasters pakkana pettina man made mistakes/wars lo chanipoye thousands/lakhs of people fate ki answer enti?
collective karma may be. please remember karma is not baggage from this life only(according to believers) but from previous births. so its like a package deal for all people who die in such phenomenons either man made or natural IMHO In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day |
   
Getafix
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Post Number: 9126 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 12:41 pm: |
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Mrhyderabad:how would you answer the Haiti
Pat Robinson , a well known American evangelist already answered this , no? He said Haitians made pact with Devil when they were ruled by napolean..inka indulo etuvanti ambiguity ledhu. |
   
Okahyderabadi
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Post Number: 3439 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 157.130.154.114
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Anand_n:Money lo Kota Garu cheppinattu - same card, names different :-) Different people hit existential questions at different times kada ... Prati pelli gatecrash ayyi 'coffeelu taagara, tiffineelu tinnara' duo laga nenu matram 5 years ga prati thread religiously attending
each time we get a different perspective or may be something different, same case here. i used to follow many such discussions before. In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day |
   
Mrhyderabad
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Post Number: 8006 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 98.221.83.14
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Question for those who strongly believe in Karma siddanth(including rollover effects from past life karma).. how would you answer the Haiti or Tsunami or any other events where thousands get killed in an instant. What did they do wrong to deserve such a fate? or should we simply exclude natural disasters from this philosophy? Okavela natural disasters pakkana pettina man made mistakes/wars lo chanipoye thousands/lakhs of people fate ki answer enti? Don't say you don't have enough time. You have exactly the same number of hours per day that were given to Helen Keller, Pasteur, Michaelangelo, Mother Teresea, Leonardo da Vinci, Thomas Jefferson, and Albert Einstein |
   
Anand_n
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Post Number: 10985 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150
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Humpty_dumpty:you will believe in only two things - money and karma
Just curious - is your definition of karma simply actions-consequences in current life or the karma siddhanta in totality ? If its the latter, how do you think the account keeping of karmic balance happens and who does it ? aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Mrhyderabad
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Post Number: 8005 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 98.221.83.14
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Humpty_dumpty:religion is the most successful business ever invented by man once you realize that, you will believe in only two things - money and karma
Masularex: but I agree that religion is a hogwash now. we have more convincing answers for our mundane questions and these answers negate existence of any type of super natural thing. but these answers are difficult to comprehend and hard to accept by most people. many unscrupulous leaders are exploiting this learning disability. turning a common simpleton into a sword... trident wielding murderers... killing men... women... children and doing unthinakabe.
 Don't say you don't have enough time. You have exactly the same number of hours per day that were given to Helen Keller, Pasteur, Michaelangelo, Mother Teresea, Leonardo da Vinci, Thomas Jefferson, and Albert Einstein |
   
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Kimura:In my opinion.. religion is biggest hogwash in the history of mankind...
I strongly oppose... religion and belief in super natural things differentiated mankind from other animals. actually that was a big shift in our journey. that entire religion thing is a indication of our curiosity to learn about ourselves and about the nature. you can't expect same type of curiosity from a bull or a bird. just imagine, if a bird miraculously got few intellectual abilities and started asking questions, simple questions for us but still difficult for our bird to comprehend, like... why it rains? why the Sun shines? why day and night happens? why is death unavoidable? (I guess this question is still a mystery for the all mighty Man)like wise... if the same questioning frenzy continues... eventually the bird has to satisfy its intellectual thirst within available means. most likely answer that bird will get... from itself... is that some one with special powers is doing all that stuff. soon this some one will become a respectable person or a deity. thus starting a belief system which might be turning into some thing like a religion. but I agree that religion is a hogwash now. we have more convincing answers for our mundane questions and these answers negate existence of any type of super natural thing. but these answers are difficult to comprehend and hard to accept by most people. many unscrupulous leaders are exploiting this learning disability. turning a common simpleton into a sword... trident wielding murderers... killing men... women... children and doing unthinakabe. pity is that... the thing which made us apart from the other animals is now making us animals again! |
   
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Okahyderabadi:very often repeated topic laga undi indi in different flavours, we have had good number of threads discussing this many times
Money lo Kota Garu cheppinattu - same card, names different Different people hit existential questions at different times kada ... Prati pelli gatecrash ayyi 'coffeelu taagara, tiffineelu tinnara' duo laga nenu matram 5 years ga prati thread religiously attending  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
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My Opinion on getting rid of Karma is through 1) Raja Yoga and constant remembrance of GOD is major part of it. 2) To have a right Guru who can guide us to the realization. |
   
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@hyd garu who am i ?? karma theory prakaram last janma lo itanu ee janma lo i m this ani cheppalenu i donno who am i :P this is only id i have atleast in this site eppudo register ayya (as a habit) but ippativaraku active ga lenu <3 |
   
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Kishorebharath:
who are u tammi? old Id endi? In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day |
   
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very often repeated topic laga undi indi in different flavours, we have had good number of threads discussing this many times. In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day |
   
Anand_n
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Beat22:"Every action of yours will have a consequence, which may manifest itself now or in remote future" is the truth...and no...prayer will not change it, as there is no God sitting out there, delivering your karma to you
And because you can validate the veracity of that claim within a life make that past and future unverifiably remote over multiple janmas - you don't know what you did in the past so all your suffering now is because of your past ...society needs you to behave so fear of retribution in later janmas and reward of salvation keeps you on the straight and narrow ;) And now I drifting way off topic into need theory Last night my son was asking me if the highest point of maslow's pyramid is self-actualization why would you want to get there ? What more is there to look forward to and it is very lonely at the top of any pyramid ? It was an excellent question and started a great discussion on why there is there is a time and age for everything - you can go slow and steady to the top or you can iterate the journey many times which is why we see the wild behavior of people who are successful too early or stripped off all constraints of lower level needs and be a creative child again  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
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Thx EK garu book prastutaniki chadavalenu gani downloading ghantasala gari audio ya depends on perception padma garu khoobsoorat except sholay,satyajit ray movies tappa nenu puttaka mundu movies gurunchi pedda telayadandi paiga hindi week nyway nice name Glad to meet inteligent n sensible people like u all <3 |
   
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Kishorebharath:Both religion n prayer are false mirage as per me
well said... But for some, the mirage of an Oasis is essential to keep them moving....It gives them "Hope"...So..fine...nothing wrong in it...whatever works...to each his own....It worked for Mahatma Gandhi hehee |
   
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Kishorebharath:Karma theory gurunchi oka sari chadavali ny gud philosophical book please recommend n abut prayer topic for me religion is like pain killer though it wont solve problem it atleast increase tolerance level ,prayer is part of process to cope up with this world tensions Both religion n prayer are false mirage as per me
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Rasp, You are thinking tooooo muchh When u strip the layers of enigma around it and look at the law of karma without any clutter in the mind, it is a very simple phenomenon! It essentially means " your actions will have consequences"...or " When you set things in motion, there will be be consequences" and the consequences can be good or bad..If your actions are good, then there is a higher chance that the consequences will be fruitful, but not necessarily...it is still a chance "Every action of yours will have a consequence, which may manifest itself now or in remote future" is the truth...and no...prayer will not change it, as there is no God sitting out there, delivering your karma to you at the best, prayer can calm your mind, and make you focus on good deeds... |
   
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Karma theory gurunchi oka sari chadavali ny gud philosophical book please recommend n abut prayer topic for me religion is like pain killer though it wont solve problem it atleast increase tolerance level ,prayer is part of process to cope up with this world tensions Both religion n prayer are false mirage as per me <3 |
   
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Rasputin:I am soo curios to know, how evil I was in previous life.
Rasp, Karma ledu chintakayi ledu, be happy and be good now. all opinions expressed are mine and only mine. not to be attributed to the other IP address sharers, my employer, or any other human, animal, robot or alien. |
   
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Rasputin:I just want to know, what did I do so wrong, to deserve such a fate.
nee fate ki emi ayindi.. kathi laga undi.. atleast db lo nuvvu disclose chesina info prakaram ayite.. |
   
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Rasputin:I am soo curios to know, how evil I was in previous life.
close up gatha janma rahasyam lo participate authe rajani kanth anukunta athani peru incarnation expert ninnu enni janmala kaina enakki theeskelthadu try to contact him |
   
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If everything is because of Karma, then it would be great if we can somehow trace the current fortunes/misfortunes to the previous good/evil deeds. I am soo curios to know, how evil I was in previous life. Ee lifetime lo ayithey except being a bully in school, nenu antha pedda thappulemi cheyyaledu. I just want to know, what did I do so wrong, to deserve such a fate. 01/06/2012 - 169.4 |
   
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Nisarga:may not be related to the thread but it reminds me of some of our old discussions in DB. http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/cm/v3/n2/jacques-mo nod-and-theistic-evolution
Good read  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
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I think your question is based on two wrong assumptions. 1) karma is always from the past. Past karma dictates the present. 2) praying/prayer is a means to change the present/future not going too deep into philosophy, let me answer your question just on the conceptual level. karma is not what you inherited from the past. karma is activity. every activity is karma. praying is a type of activity. praying is karma. why pray- there are three ways to attain moksha : Gnana yogam (by becoming a gnani and disseminating that knowledge), Yogi (by renouncing or sacrificing every thing and thus helping others) or by Bhakta (by praying and abstaining from bad activities). as you see, when you pray, you have chosen the path of Bhakta to attain moksha. the activities of your praying, like a roster, is your karma. all opinions expressed are mine and only mine. not to be attributed to the other IP address sharers, my employer, or any other human, animal, robot or alien. |
   
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Oohlala:
Last line read as...kaivalya and anand |
   
Oohlala
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Nisarga:
It depends on the person whether he needs a communication with God or not. The thought of believing in a supreme force can be endearing to most believers. However I don't think God really cares or keeps a tally of who is communicating with him or not. Sis, I think most of us assume prayer to be a good deed I.e with good intention and expectation, but mostly for selfish or personal reasons. That's why I feel prayer cannot accumulate good or neutralize bad karma. Lokakalyanam intent tho prayer chesina, there is no action involved kada, so how can it affect karma. It might give you the strength or focus to 'do' something good. Btw, Anandini, nandini concepts kooda bagunnayyi just like normal anand Vjavasi, I think the issue is because people interpret prayer differently. As u said if prayer means a complete surrender, then I can imagine prayer affecting karma. However isn't that state Kai Alta as an and mentioned, so karma good/bad doesn't accrue...... |
   
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Nisarga:why is this communication required at all? how does it matter to the supreme or individual!?
it's compulsion of individual to feel complete......he does it for his own pleasure or compulsion....supreme on his part doesn't interfere in his will but listens to his call |
   
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it's interesting that man who can't maintain himself for a second without doing action for a purpose talks about chance and purposeless existence of life...the current situation of modern man is "when man wants to destroy himself, gods drive him crazy" |
   
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Vjavasi:communication with supreme
why is this communication required at all? how does it matter to the supreme or individual!? |
   
Nisarga
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an interesting talk on "life and evolution are without an ultimate purpose" between Jacques Monod ( molecular biologist and noble laureate) and a radio host. may not be related to the thread but it reminds me of some of our old discussions in DB. http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/cm/v3/n2/jacques-mo nod-and-theistic-evolution |
   
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Nisarga:what is prayer first off!!!
communication with supreme
Nisarga:would the two ideas that what we pray to and the very act of prayer be compatible to each other??
both can't be seperated like object and subject |
   
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what is prayer first off!!! would the two ideas that what we pray to and the very act of prayer be compatible to each other?? |
   
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Nisarga:poddunne lechi puja chesukuni,kobbarikaya kotti,bottu pettu pettukuni ika ee rojantha emaina chesukovachu,ye tappu chesina emi kaadu ane conceptlo or strong feelinglo unde vallunte..ee prayersni advocate cheyyadam manchidena!!?
this type of prayer can't mitigate bad karma...only surrendering to supreme as in "sarva dharman parityajya..." of BG
Nisarga: do we have the ground to blame the criminals who offered a girl to Gods( killed a girl in MP or some state recently) to gain favors from Gods while advocating prayers and all!!!
even prayer is in three modes....these kind of sacrifices are in the mode of tamas to appease bhutas and pretas, part of black magic |
   
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as it is already mentioned here prayer could be a placebo effect. poddunne lechi puja chesukuni,kobbarikaya kotti,bottu pettu pettukuni ika ee rojantha emaina chesukovachu,ye tappu chesina emi kaadu ane conceptlo or strong feelinglo unde vallunte..ee prayersni advocate cheyyadam manchidena!!? do we have the ground to blame the criminals who offered a girl to Gods( killed a girl in MP or some state recently) to gain favors from Gods while advocating prayers and all!!! this is not to offend anybody but curious to know how people reconcile these kind of conflicts. |
   
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Thelegend:only IF one realize his/her wrong doing that gave him/her bad karma and try to correct it in which case prayer is insignificant anyway
focussing and surrendering to supreme is prayer.....repenting is just a part of it |
   
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Kishorebharath:offtopic: just out of curiosity anand_n means u r name anandini or A nandini (ignore n excuse me if it is not relavant)
Neither - old hrishida movie khoobsoorat lo oka dialogue untundi - hum yahan kisi ka dil dukane ke liye nahi aaye, hum sirf nirmal anand ke liye aaye hain Seemed apt for DB entry - Nirmal anand id dorakaledu so anand nirmal to anand_n ayyindi Coming to topic - nothing wrong is presenting your ideas on these theories- it's all part of the inquiry process.. Andaram chestundi ade ikkada Karma theory lo 4 types - if I use the debt credit analogy simplistically Sanchita : total balance of all lives Prarabdha : karma balance in current instalment(Janma) Agama: new loans and deposits in this Janma that add to Sanchita Kriyamana : miscellaneous expenses that you incur and pay off in this instalment - short term give and take Prayer could possibly be part of agama is what I suggested  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
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Vjavasi:prayer by surrendering to god works as antidote of bad karma
only IF one realize his/her wrong doing that gave him/her bad karma and try to correct it in which case prayer is insignificant anyway |
   
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karma can be cancelled....prayer by surrendering to god works as antidote of bad karma...however we shouldn't expect prayer to fulfil our specific desires immediately, then it's no surrender |
   
Beat22
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Prayer doesn't really help...At the best it can exert a placebo effect. Karma is inexorable, infallible, immutable and inevitable... topic iz vover gawd bless ammaaa |
   
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Karma is our adding of impressions based on our likes and dislikes. However nature wants us to make pure and it always tries to neutralize.Hence the effects. Naaku telisindi cheppa, dobbakandi. |
   
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Immotional_hatyachar:
prathodi ki some negative apanammakam ane vi untayi.... so u have to beliebe some ezternal force shakthi which is God... Manu ppl have fear of GOd whivh is good ఎంత చికాగో యునివర్సిటీ లో చదువుకున్నా చిలక్కొట్టుడికి సరైన ఇంగ్లీషు పదం దొరుకుతుందా..!! |
   
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kshamichandi naa chitti matti burra ikkada chappinivi emi artam kaledu ayina ubalatam aapukoleka nenu naalugu matalu cheppesta As per hindu religion karma is wat u carried from last janma or carnation so last janma lo anni correct cheste ee janma lo u will born as high caste lo pudatavu (acc to brahminical hinduism) indirect ga dont Question existing injustice its all becasue of last janma u r suffering for me karma is more of tool to maintain social order at time sankarcharya garu aham brahmasmi annaru nene devunni ayinappudu thr is nothing like karma good deads will bring u closer to god in u r self luthern,cavin protestants lo koncham similar karma concept which says u r life is glorification of god made them do wonders mana daggara same thing after ancient period led to stagnation of life PS: i still didnt thought wat is purpose of life n all nor like osama bin laden after having fun at lebanon night clubs didnt searched meaning of life in religion ,soon if i know more abut life may be i will got to knw more abt the karma u talked abt offtopic: just out of curiosity anand_n means u r name anandini or A nandini (ignore n excuse me if it is not relavant) <3 |
   
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Executor:gidemi logic. Good deeds accumulate good karma, bad deeds accumalte bad karma, and neutramul deeds accumulate no karma anukunte, is prayer considered a good deed? if so, why? I think prayer is considered a neutramul deed
Aap kaun ? Do I know you from a past life {i.e.old id}? The question is dependent on the nature of the deed ... If you were praying for your enemy to suffer is that a good deed or bad ? the good or bad is usually not in the act - it is in the intention of and expectation from the act If you believe karma siddhantham , at a state of kaivalya, when you are able to act without expecting anything from it , no karma accrues- good or bad So prayer can be good , bad or neutral based on why you are praying  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
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Anand_n:Have to run Will do it later -but simmple explanation is Karma is an accumulation of all your deeds and prayer is also a deed
gidemi logic. Good deeds accumulate good karma, bad deeds accumalte bad karma, and neutramul deeds accumulate no karma anukunte, is prayer considered a good deed? if so, why? I think prayer is considered a neutramul deed |
   
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Immotional_hatyachar:
prayer is intention. i personally believe intention has tremendous power. Just like newtonian mechanics can not explain Double slit experiment, Karma logic may not explain the working of intention and attitude. |
   
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Oohlala:sis, idi konchem elaborate cheyandi
Have to run Will do it later -but simmple explanation is Karma is an accumulation of all your deeds and prayer is also a deed  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
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Post Number: 9560 Registered: 04-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 06, 2012 - 04:39 pm: |
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Humpty_dumpty:nope but these days fills the coffers for ppl doing puja, flowers supplier, milk man, bommana brothers etc so it ij all bijiness ani munduku povaala
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Executor
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Post Number: 383 Registered: 04-2010 Posted From: 206.195.193.254
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 06, 2012 - 04:39 pm: |
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Kimura: is his karma of slapping someone going to fade away or have lesser effect
Yes. Next time when someone slaps this man, he will experience lesser pain. |
   
Oohlala
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Post Number: 1724 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 173.36.196.8
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 06, 2012 - 04:37 pm: |
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Kimura:lets say a man went and slapped someone and went and prayed to god.. is his karma of slapping someone going to fade away or have lesser effect on what he may experience as a direct effect of the original karma?
no it won't, it certainly might help us to do better in future but will not impact the past action ...again my view |
   
Oohlala
Comedian Username: Oohlala
Post Number: 1723 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 173.36.196.8
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 06, 2012 - 04:36 pm: |
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Cocanada:keka question does prayer change karma?
Everyone has their own reason to pray, howveer I believe that prayer doesn't change karma.
Anand_n:Technically, why not ? Karma is nothing but work/action and prayer is an action
sis, idi konchem elaborate cheyandi |
   
Anand_n
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Post Number: 10978 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 06, 2012 - 04:33 pm: |
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Humpty_dumpty:if prayer good karma or bad karma?
Define good and bad karma first and I will give you the answer you your question  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Kimura
Comedian Username: Kimura
Post Number: 1701 Registered: 07-2010 Posted From: 151.151.16.12
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 06, 2012 - 04:33 pm: |
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lets say a man went and slapped someone and went and prayed to god.. is his karma of slapping someone going to fade away or have lesser effect on what he may experience as a direct effect of the original karma? disclaimer.. please dont get offended or take any of this personally.. i am just trying to figure out answers like the thread initiator Immotional.. |
   
Humpty_dumpty
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Post Number: 18206 Registered: 02-2009
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 06, 2012 - 04:32 pm: |
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Anand_n:Technically, why not ? Karma is nothing but work/action and prayer is an action
if prayer good karma or bad karma? |
   
Humpty_dumpty
Moderator Username: Humpty_dumpty
Post Number: 18205 Registered: 02-2009
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 06, 2012 - 04:31 pm: |
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Cocanada:does prayer change karma?
nope but these days fills the coffers for ppl doing puja, flowers supplier, milk man, bommana brothers etc so it ij all bijiness ani munduku povaala |
   
Anand_n
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Post Number: 10977 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 06, 2012 - 04:28 pm: |
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Cocanada:does prayer change karma?
Technically, why not ? Karma is nothing but work/action and prayer is an action  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Cocanada
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Post Number: 36375 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 168.244.164.254
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 06, 2012 - 04:26 pm: |
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Immotional_hatyachar:
keka question does prayer change karma? |
   
Thelegend
Moderator Username: Thelegend
Post Number: 9558 Registered: 04-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 06, 2012 - 04:14 pm: |
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Twitter:God ni hridayam tho poojinche vadu edava pani seyyadannai
ayite ok endukante puja yes or no does not matter |
   
Kimura
Comedian Username: Kimura
Post Number: 1700 Registered: 07-2010 Posted From: 151.151.16.12
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 06, 2012 - 04:13 pm: |
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Twitter.. serious ga teesukoku.. general curiosity anthe.. |
   
Chitti_v2
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Post Number: 2773 Registered: 01-2011 Posted From: 160.83.73.15
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 06, 2012 - 04:08 pm: |
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Twitter:God ni hridayam tho poojinche vadu edava pani seyyadannai
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Twitter
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Post Number: 14812 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 151.191.175.207
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 06, 2012 - 04:07 pm: |
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Thelegend:manam edava pani chesi God daggara puja cheste God siksha taggistada? If God is really, God will not do that
God ni hridayam tho poojinche vadu edava pani seyyadannai |
   
Twitter
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Post Number: 14811 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 151.191.175.207
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 06, 2012 - 04:05 pm: |
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Saint:.there is no life after death.
yes prove chesina vaallu unnaru there is a life after death chandra mohan roja already prove chesaru edho program lo choosa  |
   
Anand_n
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Post Number: 10974 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 06, 2012 - 04:04 pm: |
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Immotional_hatyachar:acharalu
Poddune Science friday lo question vinnanu - why can sugar pills heal pain for some ? The answer is the placebo effect - the psychosomatic healing power of believing it will work meeru adigina daniki kuda answer ade And it takes the mind of the sufferer off the issue and gives him/her an empowering feeling of taking control over their destiny All good for the psyche instead of wallowing in self-pity  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Twitter
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Post Number: 14809 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 151.191.175.207
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 06, 2012 - 04:03 pm: |
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Kimura:how do you know all of this?
annai nenedho general ga cheppa dhaanike pedha vedam cheppinattu eti ee qn ?  |
   
Thelegend
Moderator Username: Thelegend
Post Number: 9557 Registered: 04-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 06, 2012 - 04:03 pm: |
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Twitter:poojas vrathas are like subsidy programs if you follow this rituals almighty could decrease the interest rate on that or sometimes elapse the debt.
manam edava pani chesi God daggara puja cheste God siksha taggistada? If God is really, God will not do that |
   
Saint
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Post Number: 2745 Registered: 01-2011 Posted From: 65.248.129.30
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 06, 2012 - 04:02 pm: |
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Twitter: poojas vrathas are like subsidy programs if you follow this rituals almighty could decrease the interest rate on that or sometimes elapse the debt. the more good you do the more you are paying back the more bad you do you are increasing the bad debt which may follow next janma also.
prove chesina vallu evaranna vunnara? its all our illusion..there is no life after death. I'm not a Saint. |
   
Kimura
Comedian Username: Kimura
Post Number: 1698 Registered: 07-2010 Posted From: 151.151.16.12
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 06, 2012 - 04:01 pm: |
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Twitter.. mee deggara chaala detail undi.. how do you know all of this? |
   
Twitter
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Post Number: 14808 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 151.191.175.207
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 06, 2012 - 03:59 pm: |
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Immotional_hatyachar:then why gods n temples... just do good deeds... no? why doshalu and acharalu?
karma is a debt you have to pay back what so ever the reason.. poojas vrathas are like subsidy programs if you follow this rituals almighty could decrease the interest rate on that or sometimes elapse the debt. the more good you do the more you are paying back the more bad you do you are increasing the bad debt which may follow next janma also. |
   
Kimura
Comedian Username: Kimura
Post Number: 1697 Registered: 07-2010 Posted From: 151.151.16.12
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 06, 2012 - 03:54 pm: |
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In my opinion.. religion is biggest hogwash in the history of mankind... |
   
Thelegend
Moderator Username: Thelegend
Post Number: 9553 Registered: 04-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 06, 2012 - 03:50 pm: |
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Immotional_hatyachar:then why gods n temples.
definitely not for what we usually hear |
   
Humpty_dumpty
Moderator Username: Humpty_dumpty
Post Number: 18201 Registered: 02-2009
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 06, 2012 - 03:49 pm: |
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religion is the most successful business ever invented by man once you realize that, you will believe in only two things - money and karma peace! |
   
Chillarodu
Comedian Username: Chillarodu
Post Number: 1305 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 75.103.2.44
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 06, 2012 - 03:48 pm: |
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Immotional_hatyachar:then why gods n temples...
to seek energy for doing good deeds A diamond with a flaw is better than a common stone that is perfect. |
   
Driverramudu
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Post Number: 4185 Registered: 02-2009 Posted From: 166.205.12.157
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 06, 2012 - 03:46 pm: |
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Immotional_hatyachar:
Just for satisfaction 100 vrataalu Upsvaasalu poojal sesins Chesina or chestunna or cheyabotunna Karma phalutaanni kinchittu kooda Maarchaleru Inclusive of GOD Driving is my PASSION. No matter of what I must reach my Final Destination. |
   
Linkmaster
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Post Number: 25886 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 12.34.246.79
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 06, 2012 - 03:42 pm: |
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Immotional_hatyachar:then why gods n temples... just do good deeds... no? temples are for good deeds
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Immotional_hatyachar
Comedian Username: Immotional_hatyachar
Post Number: 1464 Registered: 05-2011 Posted From: 204.14.239.210
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 06, 2012 - 03:41 pm: |
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then why gods n temples... just do good deeds... no? why doshalu and acharalu? |