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     Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 10522 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 166.147.78.164 Rating: N/A |
Kamal, What happens in any scientific study ? You match your projected results/hypotheses to actuals to see if they match and thus prove/ disprove the hypotheses  Mav, There are many clinical studies that run multiply years .. As In any study you have to provide incentives to people to do that and astrology can only predict trends wrt to birth situation Rajusk, They have the same data they do when making personal predictions aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Kamal Megastar Username: Kamal Post Number: 29884 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 117.195.244.152 Rating: N/A |
and what happens then? http://youtu.be/N1duR9XCtSY - Jaya He Bharati .. | ||
| Maverick Legend Username: Maverick Post Number: 32396 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 12.148.189.25 Rating: N/A |
>>Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2011 - 12:12 pm: all you need is to collect a sample of people , do astrological predictions of the varied set of their natal charts , do not show the subjects the predictions and ask them to maintain a diary over 2-3 years and then at the end match diaries to predictions anand as raju garu said, its driven by time of birth and since the results and predictions manifest over time, people dont volunteer to take up such activities..its not a quick result as in medicine..how many drugs in medicine have trials on the same patients over a period of 3 years Who is this DB member? | ||
| Rajusk Hero Username: Rajusk Post Number: 15642 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.234.99.10 Rating: N/A |
Like for Medicine..even for Astrology..even a few seconds change in birth time can alter the whole chart.. otherwise everyone born on the same day as Bill Gates would have been Bill Gates..that is not happening..right? | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 10521 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 166.147.78.135 Rating: N/A |
Mav, Actually it's not difficult Astrological calculations are very mathematical - all you need is to collect a sample of people , do astrological predictions of the varied set of their natal charts , do not show the subjects the predictions and ask them to maintain a diary over 2-3 years and then at the end match diaries to predictions aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Maverick Legend Username: Maverick Post Number: 32395 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 12.148.189.25 Rating: N/A |
>>Tbe day we have statistical data to test efficacy of remedies in astrology , kastam anand..its not like medicine where u identify 50 ppl with common symptoms and put them under testing.. astrology lo cause and effect are spread out over a period of time, not like any disease that has progression in days/months Who is this DB member? | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 10520 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 166.147.77.227 Rating: N/A |
Rajusk, Earthquake prediction makes sense - and the push- pull of forces on earth can be calculated to precision .. The difference is these bodies are matter - they do not have a free will to change their path and their paths stay predictable Lifeforms are different - especially ones with and ability to think aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Rasputin Hero Username: Rasputin Post Number: 11909 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.146.101.24 Rating: N/A |
Anand, good point. But, I am not talking about remedies. Even docs have don't have cures for everything. I am talking about the certainty of diagnosis/predictions. An idea is like a Virus. | ||
| Humpty_dumpty Moderator Username: Humpty_dumpty Post Number: 17182 Registered: 02-2009 Rating: N/A |
yea, next time go to a quack...what difference does it make...jejeje | ||
| Guriginja Hero Username: Guriginja Post Number: 19404 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 74.176.46.144 Rating: N/A |
vaalla journal lo vaallu fuddings ani seppukoka inkemi septhar JOHAR YSR.....YSR AMAR RAHE | ||
| Rajusk Hero Username: Rajusk Post Number: 15638 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.234.99.10 Rating: N/A |
Actual gaa seppali..ante..Astrologers could predict earthquakes more accurately than Siesmologists.. so now there is a team of Siesmologists in Chennai...who are learning Astrology to predict earthquakes.. details dorikithe pedthanu..but you can find it in journal of astrology website by KNRao | ||
| Mrhyderabad Side Hero Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 9970 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 98.221.83.14 Rating: N/A |
Enti Astrology is science ani malli start chesaraa?  once upon a time there was no distinction between astrology and astronomy... now both are different... one is science and another is pseduscience. Don't say you don't have enough time. You have exactly the same number of hours per day that were given to Helen Keller, Pasteur, Michaelangelo, Mother Teresea, Leonardo da Vinci, Thomas Jefferson, and Albert Einstein | ||
| Rajusk Hero Username: Rajusk Post Number: 15637 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.234.99.10 Rating: N/A |
assalu ee sun sign ..moon sign tho astrology seppadam carries only 30% weightae..the other 70% is the Natal chart and the annual chart..and the different dasas.. | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 10519 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 166.147.78.217 Rating: N/A |
Mav/Rasp, Tbe day we have statistical data to test efficacy of remedies in astrology , to the extent we do in medicine we can put both of them at par Till then we have to go by what we believe and how we act The day you are confident that an astrologer's remedy works better than a doctor's and will not take the medicine appudu debate cheyyochu anukunta aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Maverick Legend Username: Maverick Post Number: 32387 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 12.148.189.25 Rating: N/A |
>>Simply, we do not know what is going on. any specific examples? maree inta blunt ga ee disease oo teliyanivi emunnai Who is this DB member? | ||
| Morpheus Comedian Username: Morpheus Post Number: 1552 Registered: 12-2010 Posted From: 199.204.164.130 Rating: N/A |
ee madhyaa doctors meedha kathi katinatunav kadaa baga, antha nerve mahima naa | ||
| Rasputin Hero Username: Rasputin Post Number: 11907 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.146.101.24 Rating: N/A |
Emc2, agreed. Anni cure cheyyaleru. But they should be able to diagnose and say what is going on. Aids ni cure cheyyaleka povachu, kaani at least diagnose chesthaaru kada HIV+ ani. Konni cases ki aa dikku kooda ledu. Simply, we do not know what is going on. Period. An idea is like a Virus. | ||
| Maverick Legend Username: Maverick Post Number: 32383 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 12.148.189.25 Rating: N/A |
>>ts all becoz of the complexity of human body. agreed, what about astrology? complexities leva? patterns should fit a few million people under one sung sign/or moon sign..manaki fit avvakapote trash aneste ela? Who is this DB member? | ||
| Rasputin Hero Username: Rasputin Post Number: 11906 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.146.101.24 Rating: N/A |
Degree of certainity is too low. In some cases, zero. Hence, the doubts. An idea is like a Virus. | ||
| Emc2 Side Hero Username: Emc2 Post Number: 4453 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 199.107.16.132 Rating: N/A |
They are not gods.. cherapakura chedevu. | ||
| Senapathy Side Hero Username: Senapathy Post Number: 6710 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 76.88.32.171 Rating: N/A |
Annai. Its all becoz of the complexity of human body. Agreed that the etiology of many cases is unknown, but that is the nature of those cases. Sometimes, you will never know. Many ailments have same symptoms but varied underlying causes. Anduke correct diagnosis is a luck for chronic cases. Most of the time, with time, the body adjusts to overpower the ailments. And medicine is a science. Maree intha basic doubt enduku.. I am struck by the lightning of love and burnt beyond repair - Florentino Ariza | ||
| Rasputin Hero Username: Rasputin Post Number: 11905 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.146.101.24 Rating: N/A |
Doctors feel ayyuntey sorry, I can give specific examples of where doctors can not do or say anything. An idea is like a Virus. | ||
| Zulu Side Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 9307 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 64.253.166.252 Rating: N/A |
ayana dattar anukunta | ||
| Padmasri Junior Artist Username: Padmasri Post Number: 971 Registered: 10-2011 Posted From: 75.193.129.109 Rating: N/A |
ok i'm out | ||
| Rasputin Hero Username: Rasputin Post Number: 11903 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.146.101.24 Rating: |
Padma, nuvvu ekkadiko elthunnaavu, neeku ground reality konchem telidu, Doctors still have no clue regarding some basic stuff. An idea is like a Virus. | ||
| Rasputin Hero Username: Rasputin Post Number: 11902 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.146.101.24 Rating: N/A |
Chitti, I did not like the concept of living with sick ppl all day long. Thummulu, daggulu, bleeding rojanthaa idey pani. chinnappati nundi choosi choosi bore kottesindi. Peddananna doctor, ayanaki 5 kids, andaroo doctors, 2nd peddanna koduku docotr, 3rd peddannana koduku doctor, menamaama doctor, inkaa extended family inkaa entho mandi doctors. Mav, if Astrology can't be deemed as science due to some reasons, why don't the same reasons justify the statement that medicine is not a science? An idea is like a Virus. | ||
| Guriginja Hero Username: Guriginja Post Number: 19400 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 74.176.46.144 Rating: N/A |
nuvvu sese programing or what ever kuda hunhe kadha kavali...itta setthe ravatam ledhu..inko la seyyalemo anukuntav gaa..hunch lekunda puch sese work yedhi saami. JOHAR YSR.....YSR AMAR RAHE | ||
| Rowdy Hero Username: Rowdy Post Number: 11691 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 144.15.255.227 Rating: N/A |
most of the doctors that I know do believe in GOD, astrology, vastu, meditation, etc Fans are mainly fans of their own fanship rather than the fans of whom they claim to be fans of - RGV | ||
| Rasputin Hero Username: Rasputin Post Number: 11901 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.146.101.24 Rating: N/A |
Padma, as I said, recent gaa ee doubts start ayinaayi. Science is supposed to be definite/certain. Like Acid + Base -> Salt + Water. Medicine alaa kaadu anukuntunnaa. An idea is like a Virus. | ||
| Maverick Legend Username: Maverick Post Number: 32381 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 12.148.189.25 Rating: N/A |
medicine lo ilanti cases ni choopinchi why not astrology a science anna argument ok..but medicine itself is not a science antam wrong Who is this DB member? | ||
| Emc2 Side Hero Username: Emc2 Post Number: 4451 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 199.107.16.132 Rating: N/A |
Car pote inko car build cheyochu,not with humans ..adi difference.. india lo nuvu chusina cases ki common symptoms undochu anduke mandulu vesukunna ventane thaggipoyayi, but india lo kuda lots of cases lo it is hard to find solution,keep testing and no solution.. every where is the same accept here doctors are more careful because of regulations and they have to cover them self . same like bug fixing some times konni bugs fix chesetappudu one developer can fix the some bugs easily some times not.. correct diagnosis dorakali konni problems ki , medicine is a science.. cherapakura chedevu. | ||
| Chitti_v2 Side Hero Username: Chitti_v2 Post Number: 2260 Registered: 01-2011 Posted From: 160.83.72.207 Rating: N/A |
oka gootle kochen raspesh.....family anthaa daaktars ayithe nuvvu enduku kaaledo seppu......daaktar ayithe roju snaam seyyaali ani maathram seppoddu | ||
| Padmasri Junior Artist Username: Padmasri Post Number: 969 Registered: 10-2011 Posted From: 75.193.129.109 Rating: N/A |
rasp, what are u talking..didn't expect this from someone like u naatu vaidyam, vaathalu pette rojulanunchi organs transplant chese sthayi ki vachamu.....small pox lanti killer disease ni eradicate chesaru...aids ki treatment develop chesamu nee doubts loo artham ledhu inkoosari astrology lanti vatini medicine thoo compare cheyyaku plz | ||
| Rasputin Hero Username: Rasputin Post Number: 11900 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.146.101.24 Rating: N/A |
Ee madhya konchem doubts vasthunnaayi. Maa barber ki severe diarrohea (spelling mistake untey manninchandi) vachindi 4 weeks mundu. Appati nundi ippati varaku tests chesthooney unnaru nothing found. NInna adigithey inkaa atley undi, konchem better situation but ingaa emi diagnose cheyyaledu. 2003 lo severe stabbing pain in upper abdomen, so doctors daggariki velthey two or three weeks paatu several tests chesaaru. Nothing found. Adey poyindi. Inkaa chaala vishayallo choosa, all the numbers are looking excellent, we don't know what is wrong antaaru. India lo ayithey just symptoms chebithey chaalu without any tests diagnose chesi manduliche vaaru taggipoyedi. Ikkada anni tests chesina emi telidu. Oka vela tests lo emayina telisina, emi mandulu pani chesthaayo telidu. Annitikee either wait and see or trail and error policy.Oka drug isthaaru, 1 week taruvatha kanapadu antaaru. Arey idi pani cheyyadam ledey, sare inko drug isthaanu idi pani chesthundemo choodu antaaru. Coming from a family of doctors, I never thought I would say this, but looks like medical practice is mostly based on a hunch. Veella kantey car mechanics melu, they know what is wrong (they might not be honest about it). Doctors emo, maaku telvadu antaaru. Inthakee ee topic enduku vachindantey, yesterday some one (I think Anand_n) was questioning whether astrology is a science or not. when medicine can be science why not astrology? antha guess game and calculations ye kada. May be the success rate of medical guessing is a bit higher than the same in Astrology. An idea is like a Virus. |
