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Anand_n
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Post Number: 10358 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.120.91.149
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 07, 2011 - 11:23 pm: |
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Spy, Check ur email. Sent a few recipes last night  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Spy_india
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Post Number: 6355 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 50.47.60.122
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 07, 2011 - 09:47 pm: |
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http://innaiahn.blogspot.com/2011/11/after-life-what.html |
   
Anand_n
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Post Number: 10353 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.120.91.149
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 07, 2011 - 08:24 am: |
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iPad, That's a nice concise article . Aurobindo's Life Divine has been on my books to read list for a while... But does it ever strike you that these theories seems to be a retrofitting of human psychology to the image of the superconsciousness/ reality/Brahman whatever you choose to call it ? The piece about creation for delight reminded me about an impromptu post I wrote in the DB on the purpose of life being creation from a totally human perspective now I read this article and I see the same joy of creation being attributed to the divine Carl Sagan quote gurtu vachindi where he quoted from some Hindu scripture "men are but the dreams of God , or maybe gods are but the dreams of men" aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Ipad
Junior Artist Username: Ipad
Post Number: 480 Registered: 03-2011 Posted From: 12.10.219.164
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 07, 2011 - 12:43 am: |
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http://www.gurusoftware.com/GuruNet/Creation.htm Very much interesting Article on Creation Process. If any one would like to go thru |
   
Anand_n
Hero Username: Anand_n
Post Number: 10352 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.120.91.149
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 06, 2011 - 11:53 pm: |
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Ipad:A system in equilibrium cannot function as you are well aware. As per Bhagawath Geetha , there is always Creator, and Individual Souls exist.
Ok so you are talking dualism, dwaita I am more inclined to advaita
Ipad:I must say thank you to patiently listen to talk
Likewise Its always good to understand how others rationalise the gaps  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Ipad
Junior Artist Username: Ipad
Post Number: 479 Registered: 03-2011 Posted From: 12.10.219.164
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 06, 2011 - 11:35 pm: |
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Anand_n:Does that really make sense to you that the omnipotent God, the supreme soul can only propagate thru creation of Agnyana ? **** The challeneg for the souls is to cross this agnayana and enlighten themselves. A system in equilibrium cannot function as you are well aware. As per Bhagawath Geetha , there is always Creator, and Individual Souls exist. All remaining things like Creation process, creation force, Realms are transient. God wants these Individual souls to experince the all the Yogas to reach him back ***** And why did the supreme soul feel the need to propagate? More curiously - what is propagation to an infinite endless entity ? **** As per Bhagawatgeetha, Supreme soul wants all the souls he created experince the different Yogas of pleasure before they reliaze them back ****** The more I read , the less rational it appears to be...
***** . I must say thank you to patiently listen to talk ***** |
   
Anand_n
Hero Username: Anand_n
Post Number: 10350 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.120.91.149
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 06, 2011 - 10:32 pm: |
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Ipad:This resulted a blok in GODs sankalpa, to propagate. Then Agynana was created and created an illution that These souls with form are individual and seperate from GOD and were given a free will to act.
Does that really make sense to you that the omnipotent God, the supreme soul can only propagate thru creation of Agnyana ? And why did the supreme soul feel the need to propagate? More curiously - what is propagation to an infinite endless entity ? The more I read , the less rational it appears to be... aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Ipad
Junior Artist Username: Ipad
Post Number: 478 Registered: 03-2011 Posted From: 12.10.219.164
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 06, 2011 - 09:46 pm: |
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Anand_n:
Your questions is more deeper and goes to a point Why this creation ? if all creation is due to karmic results ? Physical Realm is no the only form of GODs creation. there are many dimensions in which different souls live butIt is stated in Puranas, that when GOD created Souls in the physical form , they all were not doing any karma except meditation and tapasa for the GOD. This resulted a blok in GODs sankalpa, to propagate. Then Agynana was created and created an illution that These souls with form are individual and seperate from GOD and were given a free will to act. That has started the ball rolling as these physical forms start doing things that would bond them with karma. People say that souls have to meet the results of thier actions in non-physical realms, The creation ceases to exit when all the souls are relieved from thier karmic bonds. The sankalpa of Individual souls enable them to take a form, in the physical realm / frame work created by Bhrahma. |
   
Anand_n
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Post Number: 10349 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.120.91.149
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 06, 2011 - 08:01 pm: |
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iPad, It did not answer my question karma is accrued and removed In the physical realm after the physical being is initiated .. But why was the first instance of physical being needed ? aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Ipad
Junior Artist Username: Ipad
Post Number: 477 Registered: 03-2011 Posted From: 12.10.219.164
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 06, 2011 - 07:49 pm: |
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Anand_n:
Anand_n:Hmm - so you are saying soul is a self-aware and self-willed entity that brings the body into instead of the physical body bringing the mind into being Perfectly plausible ... Then the question to ponder becomes Why? Is it because the soul needs the physical body to express itself ? Have you found an answer to that question ?
################################################# Soul is Self Aware becuase it is a derived entity of Super Soul. It is Self Willed only when elevated to higher frequncies means, When a Soul's abilility to activiate some of its higer abilities (by spiritual growth), its ability t become self willed increases. For Normal Souls , the result of good bad actions accumilate and as a result after leaving physical realm, takes time to get back all its different parts and then , is given options based on its balance sheet. Out of that options soul can choose one to be part of a tree, animal , hill or be in free floating water or a human in case it is given. As soul needs a form to erase all its karmic balances so the life's cycle moves in the total creation. Elevated sould living in hier frequncy dimestions are in a position to control the matter in 3D world, so can take an form @ will and perfrom miracles |
   
Anand_n
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Post Number: 10347 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.120.91.149
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 06, 2011 - 06:38 pm: |
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Ipad:When specific parts of Atma decides then the physical realm would progrss for the embryo. Otherwise NOT.
Hmm - so you are saying soul is a self-aware and self-willed entity that brings the body into instead of the physical body bringing the mind into being Perfectly plausible ... Then the question to ponder becomes Why? Is it because the soul needs the physical body to express itself ? Have you found an answer to that question ?  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Ipad
Junior Artist Username: Ipad
Post Number: 475 Registered: 03-2011 Posted From: 12.10.219.164
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 06, 2011 - 02:44 pm: |
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Anand_n:iPad, We are all speculating based on what we have learnt/ experienced so don't worry about being right or wrong But this the first time I heard of soul entering in instalments.however,this theory is so dependent on the development of the physical body that it goes against the soul or even mind being independent of the physical brain
The point one should understand is, that Soul can exist in different points in the sookshma and Stoola... realms. When specific parts of Atma decides then the physical realm would progrss for the embryo. Otherwise NOT. Again, Mind is part of the Soul in one of its realms. The are aLWAYS INDEPENDENT OF Physical Body. The life / progress of Physical Body is always decided by existance of level of Soul in the body. |
   
Eluri_kurradu
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Post Number: 14045 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.21.250.14
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 06, 2011 - 11:54 am: |
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I140:So finally with current data available to my brain i feel that human and computer both are same.. once computer crashes, everything goes blank
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Anand_n
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Post Number: 10338 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.120.91.149
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 06, 2011 - 11:53 am: |
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I140: So finally with current data available to my brain i feel that human and computer both are same.. once computer crashes, everything goes blank
Fair enough, but if you have new data tomorrow you may change your mind. The key is to be receptive to that new data that can potentially shake the foundations of your belief system and not resist new knowledge because it does not fit with your current understanding
Padmasri:Rebirth: May be Mother Nature has adopted the idea of recycling, long before we did.
Ofcourse it did - the only point to debate is to what level the current product breaks down, and what properties of the pre-recycle product are neutralised and what carry over to the post recycle new avatar  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Padmasri
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Post Number: 416 Registered: 10-2011 Posted From: 75.221.36.161
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 06, 2011 - 11:26 am: |
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Rebirth: May be Mother Nature has adopted the idea of recycling, long before we did.
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I140
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Post Number: 495 Registered: 10-2010 Posted From: 24.91.33.141
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 06, 2011 - 11:25 am: |
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anand garu.. So finally with current data available to my brain i feel that human and computer both are same.. once computer crashes, everything goes blank |
   
Anand_n
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Post Number: 10337 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.120.91.149
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 06, 2011 - 11:19 am: |
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I140:Based on the data what you feed you believe in it.
Well said Papi Brain/Mind works on patten matching. Based on the granularity of the patterns that are put in - new experiences/ situations are interpreted.Its as if you executing a SQL search with LIKE and finding closest match... So if you have collected a certain set of patterns(belief systems) you will interpret all situations you experience using that repository of patterns  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Padmasri
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Post Number: 411 Registered: 10-2011 Posted From: 75.221.36.161
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 06, 2011 - 10:56 am: |
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Anand_n:Meeku bharataratna id ippistamu
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I140
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Post Number: 493 Registered: 10-2010 Posted From: 24.91.33.141
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 06, 2011 - 10:55 am: |
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It looks like people are going deep. Some one said. Brain creates virtual world. Assume currently human race has idea of how far moon is and how is universe is. So all our human brains created domain as universe. The people who lived in Hinduism has created their virtual domain in the brain with the concepts what hinduism has thought. Brain concept itself is self learning and creating world based on the data. Assume what was the human brain learning and what was the domain.. So finally it is all like computer world. Based on the data what you feed you believe in it. |
   
Anand_n
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Post Number: 10335 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.120.91.149
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 06, 2011 - 10:34 am: |
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Sandipus, Hi there - good to see you again iPad, We are all speculating based on what we have learnt/ experienced so don't worry about being right or wrong But this the first time I heard of soul entering in instalments.however,this theory is so dependent on the development of the physical body that it goes against the soul or even mind being independent of the physical brain EKB, Woke from the weirdest dream this morning - I am in an apt . There is a wooden crate at my door step - I hear rustling in it and go to see two white eel like fish in it. A while later they make s hole and I see two small (25-30 inch)organisms walk out . One morphed to a biped walks out , the other one flies out with dinosaur like ribbed wings..and I was not even thinking Darwinian evolution before going to sleep the mind's a wondrous thing  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Ipad
Junior Artist Username: Ipad
Post Number: 474 Registered: 03-2011 Posted From: 12.10.219.164
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 06, 2011 - 01:11 am: |
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Anand_n:iPad, Ok so let me ask this - when does the Mind come into existence ? Is it at conception, at birth or somewhere in between ? Can the mind function In case of brain death ? To me brain is the hardware and mind is the data and software - it only has meaning when running on the hardware And then how does soul play in this - and what does it consist of anedi bigger question
############################################################ ################ From the Vague Thoeritical knowledge what i got by reading diff books 1.Every Object in this material world has a Soul, otherwise it ceases to exist 2.While the souls are different for different complexisties 3. Human Soul has few parts 4. Out of which one part is responsible for briging body/cell to chaitanyam and operrae thier metobolism as per DNA to maintain life. 5. Second Part consistes of Mind, Counciosness Intiellect, Samskaras that makes a body to think, work using its brain and spinal cord, 5 senses etc. 6. Another part of the soul has connectivity to Universal Soul and conciusness So a soul can remain in objects in complete form or in parts being inside parts being outside , depends on the state of the object When germ cells unite to form an embryo, they automomatically gets the part of the human soul that is responsible for metabolisim and life and its destiny Once it start growing , forming brain and spinal card, then other part of the soul enter to start enabling Mind, Intellect, other forces This is all my thoeritical knowledge acquired by reading some books. May be be right may not be |
   
Sandipus
Junior Artist Username: Sandipus
Post Number: 15 Registered: 12-2008 Posted From: 111.93.0.30
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 06, 2011 - 01:10 am: |
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most of us believe that Humans are an inevitable consequence of evolution and that we are here for a special purpose. scientific evidence shows that we are more of an accident, and nature does not favour complex beings for a long duration. All complex animals perished periodically, and it is the simpler organisms that are destined to live longer. They can survive a nuclear holocaust, and also some of them can survive even after sun becomes a red giant. I think that puts our human lives into perspective. Dont know how much awareness micro organisms possess.Only thing certain is that they have a passion to live and procreate. Even the mitochondria inside our cells are thought to be from a different species altoghther carrying its own DNA and sets of proteins, and leads an independent existence right within our cells. Origin of life is a mystery. We do not even know if it originated on earth. we can only speculate about rebirth but nothing will be proven with the limited knowledge we have at this moment. |
   
Anand_n
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Post Number: 10334 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.120.91.149
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 06, 2011 - 01:03 am: |
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Padmasri, Meeku bharataratna id ippistamu kani kasta Aa icons tatparyam words lo cheppandi please --icon bhasha ardham kavatledu  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Padmasri
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Post Number: 389 Registered: 10-2011 Posted From: 72.101.112.179
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Anand_n:
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Anand_n
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Post Number: 10333 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.120.91.149
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 06, 2011 - 12:46 am: |
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iPad, Ok so let me ask this - when does the Mind come into existence ? Is it at conception, at birth or somewhere in between ? Can the mind function In case of brain death ? To me brain is the hardware and mind is the data and software - it only has meaning when running on the hardware And then how does soul play in this - and what does it consist of anedi bigger question  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Ipad
Junior Artist Username: Ipad
Post Number: 473 Registered: 03-2011 Posted From: 12.10.219.164
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 05, 2011 - 10:58 pm: |
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Cocanada:papi what were you when you were about to be born think back wards....what were you before that...before that...and so on fetus , sperm...and before that?????
Coke - Germ Cells, Featus are just formed out of distructable matter, which is nothing to do with past life and regression. They are just the products of living beings. As states earlier , Our Karmic Recod in the Universal Cloud, that can be referred with Soul ID, has everythind. Nit very sure Soul takes shelter immediately after farming embroyo or it will wait for some more time to take shelter. Our Mind , with conciousness is the one that connects us to rest of the Universal Mind Network. Our Karmic results are always sent to our mind , that initiates specific action or react to an event. This Our Mind has Free will to take the choices. Also Our results of our good and bad actions are sent back to our records using this our mind. Mitochondria of each cell are energy centers that drive the organs , using prana and chalak shakthi. But what to do is driven by Mind |
   
Eluri_kurradu
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Post Number: 14031 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.21.250.14
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 05, 2011 - 10:57 pm: |
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Padmasri:
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Padmasri
Junior Artist Username: Padmasri
Post Number: 379 Registered: 10-2011 Posted From: 75.245.159.26
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Zulu
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Post Number: 8970 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.68.10.73
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 05, 2011 - 10:52 pm: |
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Eluri_kurradu
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Post Number: 14030 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.21.250.14
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 05, 2011 - 10:51 pm: |
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Telugu_times:mari nenu, zulu and 9 billion others anthaa purpose lekundaa bhoomi ki bhaaramaa?
just nenu ekb mathrame karana janmulam anukunnane meeru kudaana? I'm not a kurradu  |
   
Ipad
Junior Artist Username: Ipad
Post Number: 472 Registered: 03-2011 Posted From: 12.10.219.164
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 05, 2011 - 10:33 pm: |
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Anand_n:I think consciousness is an attribute/function/ product of the brain and your answer actually supports that.
Brain is a processor with memmory, it has no attrinutes like conciuosness. It is just like another organ like Heart. There is something called Mind ...which donot know where it exists Conciousness is the attrinute of that Mind, which cuases the Chitanyam.. As all of us know Spinal Chord is the one which gives un voulntary movments But again its just another Organ It is the Mind which is master of complex living beings, that is always connected to Universal Mind, the provides conciousness and thier characteristics to all organs. Without that we will never have any cahitanyam , even if we have Pranam. |
   
Telugu_times
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Post Number: 24723 Registered: 02-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 05, 2011 - 10:09 pm: |
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Entikaburlu:nenu okasari thailand lo oka saint/priest type ayanni kalisanu. aayana past birth expert anta. nenu na past birth emiti ani adiganu. chala pedda story cheppadu. I had a reason to come to the earth etc etc
mari nenu, zulu and 9 billion others anthaa purpose lekundaa bhoomi ki bhaaramaa?
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Padmasri
Junior Artist Username: Padmasri
Post Number: 332 Registered: 10-2011 Posted From: 72.100.232.181
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Anand_n:
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Anand_n
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Post Number: 10328 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.120.91.149
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iPad, Thanks for answering- though my question was more of a rhetorical one I think consciousness is an attribute/function/ product of the brain and your answer actually supports that. A fertilized egg has Prana sakti but no chitta sakti ... That chitta sakti is said to come around the 5th month - which is also the time when the brain and CNS are fairly developed (padmasri can correct me if I misstated that). I am stating what I think, not saying you are wrong please ignore if it offends your sensibilities EKB, Intaki Aa purpose emiti cheppara Aa peddayana meeku ?  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Eluri_kurradu
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Post Number: 14017 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.21.250.14
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Entikaburlu
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Post Number: 2542 Registered: 07-2011 Posted From: 67.247.83.224
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, November 04, 2011 - 10:02 pm: |
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nenu okasari thailand lo oka saint/priest type ayanni kalisanu. aayana past birth expert anta. naa friend pattuku poyadu. nenu na past birth emiti ani adiganu. chala pedda story cheppadu. I had a reason to come to the earth etc etc. I was shaken a bit. More than Hindus, Budhists for sure believe there is a past birth and future birth. |
   
Cocanada
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Post Number: 34237 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 67.140.252.154
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papi what were you when you were about to be born think back wards....what were you before that...before that...and so on fetus , sperm...and before that????? |
   
I140
Junior Artist Username: I140
Post Number: 492 Registered: 10-2010 Posted From: 24.91.33.141
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Jackson:
Jackson, Deja vu is a one brains confusion state. Daniki nivu rebirth ki link ettava? at same time.. buddism is from hindhuism.. malla buddism lo antaventi .. hinduism ani seppu.. at same time.. human body lo na ane feeling computer kuda untadi.. ade ipaddress or computer name so nothing difference between computer and human.. once computer is crashed no more data.. same thing with human..no data at all.. nothing happens.. only difference you see is.. human is self learning computer.. |
   
Ipad
Junior Artist Username: Ipad
Post Number: 471 Registered: 03-2011 Posted From: 12.10.219.167
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Jackson:
This is the reason why versious techniques have been identified like Kriya Yoga etc. The objective is to Burn the Karmic affects more in the available life span. Various Ascetics In Himalayas Bring thier metobolic state to lowest levels to live more and do more penace But As per Lord Krishna... The one who perfroms his Duties as per Dharma, with utmost dedication and committment , with Love in Heart ...is called the Yogi. He will reap the benefits of his state of Yoga. Gyanulu Nannu Ettlu Sevnturo, Nannu Atle Pondagalaru....... |
   
Jackson
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Post Number: 2586 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 76.185.189.244
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, November 04, 2011 - 08:36 pm: |
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mari appudappudu manam ade place lo ade manushulatho a;laane matladutunnatu enduku gurthu kostundi adedo dream remeberance valla ala avutundi antaaru.. dream lo antha kachittam ga aa scene ela vostundi.. that one example itself will tell that rebirth is there.. as per buddhism, that rebirth will stop once you reach the highest level also called as moksha.. I think some 9 levels vuntaayi.. 95% janaalu 3rd or 4th level lone potaaru.. aa life span lo paapalu ekkuva cheste 2nd level ante ee janthuvu laa pudtaaru.. aa janthuvu ga manchi [panlu cheste next janma lo promotion vostundi.. prathi janma lo manchi chesukuntu pothu vunte 9th level ki veltaaru aa taruvaata rebirth vundadhu.. ... |
   
Ipad
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Post Number: 470 Registered: 03-2011 Posted From: 12.10.219.167
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Anand_n:So life is independent of consciousness?
Yes Pancha Pranalu is different from Conciousness. 1. Prana Sakthi is distributed in Many things in the universe 2. It circulates from one object to another 3. Life force that is there in each and every cell / tiisue / organ has to be replenished by way of food, oxygen, water ect in a properly functioning unit 4. If not This force escapes from the oject resulting in death A Person can loose is Conciousness but live like a vegetable as we see in certain states of COMA. But in Sleep both exist and active. As the life force exists from a bady so that object looses its existing conciousness An Apple and a Human both have life force but only later has Conciouness and awareness. |
   
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Zulu:Asalu bathiki undaga emavuthundi
thinnaama, padukunnaama, db open sesaama....adhannatlu |
   
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Post Number: 8957 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 64.253.166.252
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Asalu bathiki undaga emavuthundi..chavu sangathi tharvatha
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Telugu_times
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Post Number: 24694 Registered: 02-2008
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Anand_n:Ila chepte meeku shishyulu dorakatam impossible - you have to work on your marketing baba
DB kaabatti itlaa chepthaam andee.... dharshanaaniki vacchina sishyulaki....different pulihora untundhi
Blackmamba:
sorry 8-8 mamba |
   
Chitti_v2
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Post Number: 2049 Registered: 01-2011 Posted From: 98.221.195.120
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Jp_rocks:
jpesh, panjaa bomma releaje ki ready avuthunnattunnaav gaa |
   
Senapathy
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Post Number: 6533 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 137.131.212.40
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Jp_rocks:human is just another form of life ani realize ayite ilati life after death ane thought undadi
 I am struck by the lightning of love and burnt beyond repair - Florentino Ariza |
   
Jp_rocks
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Post Number: 13259 Registered: 06-2009 Posted From: 167.83.101.28
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our death is no different to a mosquito's death....we don't even know if fellow mosquitos mourne a mosquito's death.. human is just another form of life ani realize ayite ilati life after death ane thought undadi |
   
Anand_n
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Post Number: 10325 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150
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I140: still some small cell would be active
So life is independent of consciousness?  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Anand_n
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Post Number: 10324 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150
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Telugu_times:my personal opinion... After human death... nothing happens...
Ila chepte meeku shishyulu dorakatam impossible - you have to work on your marketing baba garu  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Blackmamba
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Telugu_times:just like colts on that monday night football
maa mano bhavalanu debbateestunnaru baba goru.. |
   
Telugu_times
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my personal opinion... After human death... nothing happens... Age vacchaaka....bikaari ayinaa, billion dollar business magnets ayinaa, billion dollars babas ayinaa....all touch down...just like colts on that monday night football |
   
I140
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Anand garu.. Ipad logic tisukunte emo kani.. As a body ni computer la imagine chesukondi.. anthe.. Even your operating system goes off.. still some small cell would be active to function basic necessary things like heart and kidney. |
   
Guriginja
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sinnappudu daham tho paduko kudadhu....nellu taga kuda padukunte mana atma neella kosam yelluddhi kundalloki bindelloki...nee atma kundalo duri teerigga neellu taguthunnappudu yevadanna satukkuna mutha pettesadanti finsih anthe sangathulu ani seppevoru...bitthar ds...all pack. JOHAR YSR.....YSR AMAR RAHE |
   
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nenu poyyetappudu naa soul oka object lo petti eldaamanukuntunnaa.......my granddaughter will say some magical words and those words will summon my soul and guide her......aa object endi andedi inkaa decide kaaledu...... |
   
Sanman
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ivanni nenu okappudu namme vaanni. with all the advent in technology and communication, it is hard to believe stuff like this anymore. evo books kuda chadivaanu OBE experiments. hospital roof midha easter eggs pedtaaru. NDE nundi return vachina vaallu avi kanipinchayi ani chepte OBE true anukovachu. okkadu cheppalaedhu. but of course aedhi 100% kotti pareyalem. telisindhi gorantha why do you want to bring a dead person into this ? especially when he is not alive - Jagan |
   
Anand_n
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Post Number: 10321 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150
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I140:
No, my question is more basic - on the point that the consciousness can exist independent of the body and can leave the body and return.If the consciousness leaves the body, and the body still lives in that time- how do you define "life". What is making the heart beat till the conscioussness comes back to the body ? aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
I140
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Anand garu.. If i understand your question correctly.. Body might have some small battery what you have in your computer which keeps your computer wake up after hibernate. It is like watch battery. This battery only runs computer date and time. In human brain also there are some cells which has some electric power stored while you are sleeping. And this cells have intelligence to send wake up signal when body got enough sleep and rest. |
   
Anand_n
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Ipad:It is proven in some experiments that mind-Conscious exist without Physical Body.Brain is just a receiver It can be be brought out of the body @ will by great masters.
In all these cases the body is still alive/functional - what keeps the body alive ? Wonder what would happen if the body stops functioning while the consciousness is out and about  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Ipad
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Post Number: 468 Registered: 03-2011 Posted From: 12.10.219.167
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I140:
This is my perception. The Universal Conciouness is a cloud, which stored all the souls records and actions with Unique Soul ID. As you rightly said, all our actions will be synced with this file very frequently, so that some people reap the results in the same birth other waitr little longer As you know all our conciousness is connected with Super Conciousness. But people like me and you cannot realize this as we have have not experinced the same. Only one goes performs "Yoga" - means doing his dharma with perfect senses abd dedication - starts travelling in spiritula path - Ultimatelt its Universal Soul's will see if the Individual Soul is fits to realize its original form of "Sath-chit-Ananda Swaroopa" Diffeernt enlighted souls are given responsibility to enlighted normal souls to take the jouney back to oneness, from where they originated at the time of first creation |
   
I140
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Post Number: 483 Registered: 10-2010 Posted From: 146.243.4.157
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So you say universal cloud is based on cloud technology? So you say there is cloud technology and every time human does something it is stored locally and later it is pushed to cloud and stored some where. So every human is only identified through soul identifier. interesting.. man.. go on |
   
Padmasri
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Post Number: 303 Registered: 10-2011 Posted From: 72.100.160.242
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fafi, escalenttt |
   
Ipad
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I140:
Soul is not the data center of an individual. What i feel from my minisucle knowledge 1. All Souls have unique identifcation numbers stores in Souls 2. The data of thier actions,settlements is stored in a file in Universal conciousness (like universal cloud) 3. A soul can be present in 2 different worlds suksma and stoola at the same time , to address the outcome of its karmic deeds 4. The soul s pure energy and bliss with a unique number, that is derived from GOD 5. When about to take a form, soul can choose different options presented to itself , to clear the dues (good - bad) 6. Based on its past record, His DNA is decided accordingly the brith takes place 7. Again the Soul accumulates many good- bads wich will beadded to the file 8. When leaving the body, based on the latest file status, the soul will be moved to appropriate dimnesion to reap the results of his actions 9. People elevate in the spiritual side, pay all the due recorded in their file and they become aware of the Them selves and Universal Conciousness 10.Once thier file is clear they are free from life - birth cycles and they have a free will be in in any dimesions and access to universal conciiousness 11. If they want to be one with GOD, they can merge in oneness |
   
I140
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boot loader in reality happens only once in the human life. Later every time human sleeps, it is like going to hibernate. So when you touch mouse pad the computer gets up.. same way you touch human the touch sensors wakes up brain.. So no restart for human .. only one start during mother womb. So mother computer start the child computer by creating new instance.. that instance would self learn and grow |
   
Jupiter
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Post Number: 2649 Registered: 05-2011 Posted From: 59.92.182.136
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I140:In reality human is super multi taski super duper much faster computer.. but it is computer
papayi .. all computers have one imp program called boot loader .. no matter which OS run the boot loader is constant .. now where is this boot loader in human and who wrote it ... |
   
I140
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Twitter. computer unna lekunna .. computer is prepared by understanding human brain. Try to understand this project. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Brain_Project In reality human is super multi taski super duper much faster computer.. but it is computer |
   
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I140:
idhi computer yugam analogy adhe computer lenappudu ento kooda cheppu Lets create a corruption-free India
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I140
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Post Number: 480 Registered: 10-2010 Posted From: 146.243.4.157
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Ipad.. Assume.. the aathma is data of your life. So data is stored in brain. So you say the data is transferred to some external entity in the universe and later again copied back to some other human body brain? I do not understand if you talk in other terminology. Human brain is made of some tissue. computer mother board is made of some other metal.. but finally both does same.. |
   
Padmasri
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Fafi, In my humble opinion, u got it right. |
   
Ipad
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It is proven in some experiments that mind-Conscious exist without Physical Body.Brain is just a receiver It can be be brought out of the body @ will by great masters. After Leaving Physical Body, the sould who donot have "self-awareness" go to different dimention with higer frequncies. Thier mind-Conscious will be stored safely in the Universal Consciousness. When they re-incarnate, would be linked back to thier own mind-Conscious If these people elevate spirutually, they can be aware of thier own mind-Conscious |
   
I140
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I was watching near death experience in Netflix. I got different thoughts.. We had many myths like after death aathma would leave body and take rebirth. I am not sure how we would relate that. But i think body is like one physical computer. And the brain is memory. We get powered up by calories of energy through food. Once we die our brain would be switched off and once body is burned everything is wiped out.. no Aaathma.. no rebirth.. It is just hard disk and processor kind of stuff. if human can take rebirth then computer also should take rebirth.. else your are done |