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Kingaa_bongaa
Hero Username: Kingaa_bongaa
Post Number: 14625 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.189.128.20
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2011 - 11:16 am: |
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ilaaa manalo manam kottukuntaaam kabatte aa sonia aaadukunntundhi janaal tho. Swami agendaa jendaa edhainaaa, isssue meedha maatlaadandi saaame. is this law good for you? Manaki Manam Kingu, Choosevallaki Bongu.
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Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 29581 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 117.195.244.81
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2011 - 10:41 am: |
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Indiarocks:law making basics telisthe ila matladaru. For any bill, the whole Govt is responsible. Not just one MP, or the NAC who drafts it.. Endukante ruling Govt MPs stamp vese varaku bill ki chithu kagithaniki pedha theda ledu.
Indian scenario lo .. ee roju unna Indian govt ki kartha/karma/kriya anni Sonia ne ani andariki telusu .. it is her agreement that gave birth to this communally divisive bill (future law) .. and for that let her be prosecuted .. http://youtu.be/N1duR9XCtSY - Jaya He Bharati .. |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8177 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 08:30 pm: |
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Sanman:meeku asalu atanu ae sections kindha file chesado telusa ? Promoting enmity between different groups on grounds of religion, race, place of birth, residence, language, etc., and doing acts prejudicial to maintenance of harmony. Deliberate and malicious acts, intended to outrage religious feelings or any class by insulting its religion or religious beliefs. Statements creating or promoting enmity, hatred or ill- will between classes. granted case will either be dismissed or lost but he is not stupid.
Case lo problem lekapothe dismiss enduku chestaru? Just to clarify, I did not support the bill anywhere. Normally the case will be against the Govt, coz it is the Govt bringing the bill. Swamy agenda Soniya kabatti case alaga vesadu. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Sanman
Side Hero Username: Sanman
Post Number: 4791 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 08:23 pm: |
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Indiarocks:law making basics telisthe ila matladaru. For any bill, the whole Govt is responsible. Not just one MP, or the NAC who drafts it.. Endukante ruling Govt MPs stamp vese varaku bill ki chithu kagithaniki pedha theda ledu.
meeku asalu atanu ae sections kindha file chesado telusa ? Promoting enmity between different groups on grounds of religion, race, place of birth, residence, language, etc., and doing acts prejudicial to maintenance of harmony. Deliberate and malicious acts, intended to outrage religious feelings or any class by insulting its religion or religious beliefs. Statements creating or promoting enmity, hatred or ill- will between classes. granted case will either be dismissed or lost but he is not stupid. Swamy went on to say, "One can safely conclude that the script writers of this bill are themselves blinded with religious biases. " "Hence, the NAC, with Sonia Gandhi as chairperson, and other members have jointly committed offences under IPC Sections 153A & B, 295A, and 505," Swamy concluded. ridiculous use of a blanket law to oppose a mindless bill. tomorrow when it comes for voting this will be one of the things on MPs minds that the law is so ridiculous someone went to court against it why do you want to bring a dead person into this ? especially when he is not alive - Jagan |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8176 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 07:52 pm: |
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Kamal:The 'draft' bill was "drafted" by the NAC lead by Sonia ..
law making basics telisthe ila matladaru. For any bill, the whole Govt is responsible. Not just one MP, or the NAC who drafts it.. Endukante ruling Govt MPs stamp vese varaku bill ki chithu kagithaniki pedha theda ledu. Mental_sachinodu:what was the solution for 2G scam? granted we need a systemic change, but isnt a utopian aspiration that we will always have a system in place before there is a crime is committed? in most judiciaries, laws are amended continually based on newer crimes that come into light. PIL might have filed been filed before CPIL figured there are issues with the licenses, but unless there is functioning body that moderates the application new bills, whats the use of drafting such a bill. Swamy might have jendas and agendas, but he is doing things legally, using the rights that every other citizen has.
raja, sonia whoever is involved should go to jail. But that is only part of the solution, and Swamy never goes beyond that. Except Swamy almost all other parties fighting case on 2G asked for cancellation of licenses, and are involved in the Lok Pal movement. Lok Satta is even asking for a Windfall Profit tax, and confiscation of properties. Things like this are the logical conclusion to any corruption case. Not just Raja landing in jail. We do not even have a mechanism to confiscate Raja's properties even if he lands up in jail. I am talking exactly the same thing u mentioned, laws to be amended, or new laws enacted so that a future 2G or other scam is averted. Swamy is never bothers abt any of this, and that is why I am calling his effort to be incomplete, or myopic. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 29579 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 117.195.229.117
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 05:49 pm: |
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Rajusk: podugale lesinavu..manchiga naalugu bomblu pelchochu kada..DB lolli enduku.. BTW..idi saduvu ..very vinteresting...Hindus minority lo unna JK and Northeast lo ee bill apply kadu anta..so aaku.mullu theory applied for Hindus..adi bottomline..etu tirigi hole matram ..Hindu gaa puttinavadike..
Sonia aaku chirige roju kuda vastundi annai .. narakaasura vadha jaragalsinde .. Rajusk: Thammud Happy Diwali first..
Thank you and Happy Diwali annai .. http://youtu.be/N1duR9XCtSY - Jaya He Bharati .. |
   
Rajusk
Hero Username: Rajusk
Post Number: 15119 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.234.99.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 05:43 pm: |
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Kamal:The 'draft' bill was "drafted" by the NAC lead by Sonia .. Swamy meeda poddastamanam edisthe manaki jenda, mukhyam ga agenda unnatta lenatta?
Thammud Happy Diwali first.. podugale lesinavu..manchiga naalugu bomblu pelchochu kada..DB lolli enduku.. BTW..idi saduvu ..very vinteresting...Hindus minority lo unna JK and Northeast lo ee bill apply kadu anta..so aaku.mullu theory applied for Hindus..adi bottomline..etu tirigi hole matram ..Hindu gaa puttinavadike.. This Bill when it becomes an Act will apply to whole country except the State of Jammu and Kashmir. Note that J&K is one of the two States in India (excluding the North East and other tiny UTs) that has Hindus as minority – the ‘non-dominant group’ according to this Bill. Punjab is the other State where the Sikhs constitute the majority, while in the rest of the entire country it is the Hindus who constitute ‘dominant group’ and by implication the perpetrators of communal violence, according to this Draft Bill. |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 29577 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 117.195.229.117
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 05:39 pm: |
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Indiarocks:A draft bill represents the Govt, not Sonia, or other individuals. As usual Swamy gaaru beyond individuals choodaleru ani prove chesukunnaru..
The 'draft' bill was "drafted" by the NAC lead by Sonia .. Swamy meeda poddastamanam edisthe manaki jenda, mukhyam ga agenda unnatta lenatta?  http://youtu.be/N1duR9XCtSY - Jaya He Bharati .. |
   
Kingaa_bongaa
Hero Username: Kingaa_bongaa
Post Number: 14619 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.189.128.20
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 05:18 pm: |
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Humpty_dumpty:sonia nee anochu but ila agenda tho target cheyyakudadu like agenda tho jagan, bala, ramoji/cbn/etc ...ila target sesinattu
agenda lekundaaa mundhuki elaa pothaaaam, ainaa aaa agenda emainaa mother theresaa meedhaa annattu fans bongulo cuttings ento? Manaki Manam Kingu, Choosevallaki Bongu.
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Humpty_dumpty
Moderator Username: Humpty_dumpty
Post Number: 16499 Registered: 02-2009
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 05:15 pm: |
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Kingaa_bongaa:theen emmaa gootle munda sonia ki kooda fans aaa? chasss mana desam etu elthaandhi assal?
sonia kee fans kaadhu dharmaaniki nyaaaniki blah blah bala sonia nee anochu but ila agenda tho target cheyyakudadu like agenda tho jagan, bala, ramoji/cbn/etc ...ila target sesinattu |
   
Kingaa_bongaa
Hero Username: Kingaa_bongaa
Post Number: 14617 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.189.128.20
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 05:09 pm: |
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theen emmaa sonia ki kooda fans aaa? chasss mana desam etu elthaandhi assal? (Message edited by thelegend on October 25, 2011) Manaki Manam Kingu, Choosevallaki Bongu.
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Raman
Side Hero Username: Raman
Post Number: 3002 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 159.182.1.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 04:59 pm: |
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Mental_sachinodu:
idly mental swami annadu ani meevargam anukuni support chestunnavu kadoo  |
   
Ipc302
Moderator Username: Ipc302
Post Number: 10253 Registered: 02-2008
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 04:57 pm: |
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Rajusk:
Rajusk:
meeku kooda singles guddesthunnaru evaro |
   
Humpty_dumpty
Moderator Username: Humpty_dumpty
Post Number: 16492 Registered: 02-2009
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 04:55 pm: |
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Rajusk:
update...meeku naaku gudhaaru  |
   
Rajusk
Hero Username: Rajusk
Post Number: 15116 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.234.99.10
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 04:53 pm: |
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Humpty_dumpty:MS posts kee singles vesthunaara...manassu da heart anaydhee undhaa asalaaa...grrrr
naa browser lo sukkal kanapadav..singles aa..mari too much.. kadupuki annam thintunnara..chitrannam thintunnara |
   
Humpty_dumpty
Moderator Username: Humpty_dumpty
Post Number: 16490 Registered: 02-2009
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 04:49 pm: |
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MS posts kee singles vesthunaara...manassu da heart anaydhee undhaa asalaaa...grrrr |
   
Rajusk
Hero Username: Rajusk
Post Number: 15114 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.234.99.10
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 04:48 pm: |
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Mental_sachinodu:what was the solution for 2G scam? granted we need a systemic change, but isnt a utopian aspiration that we will always have a system in place before there is a crime is committed? in most judiciaries, laws are amended continually based on newer crimes that come into light. PIL might have filed been filed before CPIL figured there are issues with the licenses, but unless there is functioning body that moderates the application new bills, whats the use of drafting such a bill. Swamy might have jendas and agendas, but he is doing things legally, using the rights that every other citizen has.
Menatlesh...aripinchav |
   
Cocanada
Legend Username: Cocanada
Post Number: 33937 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 168.244.164.254
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 04:20 pm: |
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Unfortunately some people are not able to see beyond his caste sad |
   
Mental_sachinodu
Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu
Post Number: 6099 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5
Rating:  Votes: 4 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 04:11 pm: |
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Indiarocks:Just putting an individual in jail is not a result for me.
what was the solution for 2G scam? granted we need a systemic change, but isnt a utopian aspiration that we will always have a system in place before there is a crime is committed? in most judiciaries, laws are amended continually based on newer crimes that come into light. PIL might have filed been filed before CPIL figured there are issues with the licenses, but unless there is functioning body that moderates the application new bills, whats the use of drafting such a bill. Swamy might have jendas and agendas, but he is doing things legally, using the rights that every other citizen has. I would say if JP or other politicians who have knowledge that there are scams that are being run by other politicians, and they do not start a legal process against such politcians, they are also part of the crime. its peope who take that action once they see something illegal, that make the system change. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada |
   
Sanman
Side Hero Username: Sanman
Post Number: 4788 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 04:07 pm: |
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Indiarocks:Just putting an individual in jail is not a result for me.
ok how about ram setu issue ? central govt is a gigantic machinery spearheaded by one family most of the time that never stops thinking about idiotic things to do. we need more people like swamy - not less there are less than 10 people in Gandhi family since independence and they continue to hurt the interests of 1200000000 people he is not some idiot ranting about everything bad in the country. he is doing something about it and he is right most of the time why do you want to bring a dead person into this ? especially when he is not alive - Jagan |
   
Gatti_gunde
Side Hero Username: Gatti_gunde
Post Number: 2958 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 24.98.52.220
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 04:07 pm: |
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Cocanada:he is saying "india for indians....people who are more loyal to saudi arabia, dubai can go to hell"
more loyal o saudi and dubai ante people who are no interested in learning sanskrit aa |
   
Cocanada
Legend Username: Cocanada
Post Number: 33936 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 168.244.164.254
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 04:04 pm: |
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Indiarocks:"Strategy: Implement Uniform Civil Code, make Sanskrit learning compulsory and singing of Vande Mataram mandatory, and declare India as Hindu Rashtra in which only those non-Hindus can vote if they proudly acknowledge that their ancestors are Hindus. Re-name India as Hindustan as a nation of Hindus and those whose ancestors are Hindus."
simpulu ga cheppalante ...he is saying "india for indians....people who are more loyal to saudi arabia, dubai can go to hell" Swamy rocksssss |
   
Jupiter
Side Hero Username: Jupiter
Post Number: 2607 Registered: 05-2011 Posted From: 59.92.193.118
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 04:03 pm: |
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Indiarocks:PIL on Sonia, and ur already in the Seventh Heaven
anduke ga .. kangaru kangaru ga .. aagandi aagaindi .. maa seventh heaven ready avutondi .. maade better heaven ani .. campaigning    |
   
Cocanada
Legend Username: Cocanada
Post Number: 33935 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 168.244.164.254
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 04:00 pm: |
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all religions are equal - hindutva islam and christianity are more equal - secularism |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8175 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 03:57 pm: |
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Jupiter:no u still have to wait till the seventh heaven that lok satta and others are going to create thru their PIL .. until then nobody can not and shall not do anything of that level ...
PIL on Sonia, and ur already in the Seventh Heaven  What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Risingstar
Megastar Username: Risingstar
Post Number: 26760 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 159.53.46.147
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 03:48 pm: |
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Idle_yzag:yenti mentally retarded swamy ki kuda pans vuntara?
swamy ni emanaddu.. casete feeling ani denkul eduthunnaru.. denemma jeevitham |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8174 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 03:48 pm: |
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Sanman:ok his reasons are obscure but the results he are bringing are real. give credit where credit is due to the guy who single handedly stopped destruction of ram setu and brought out the culprits of 2G scam into limelight. he is offering a counter balance to the extreme appeasement policy of govt.
Just putting an individual in jail is not a result for me. CPIL filed a PIL on cancellation of 2G licenses even before Swamy. Swamy is more in the media bcoz as usual the media likes allegations on individuals, and controversial statements. I did not deny that Swamy was a major factor in 2G. Kaani kurrod agenda tho champestadu. Adey oppose chestundi. Lekapothe Govt bill draft meeda Sonia meda case enti? Daani valana origedi enti. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Uppu
Side Hero Username: Uppu
Post Number: 4074 Registered: 11-2007 Posted From: 206.16.32.136
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 03:46 pm: |
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Idle_yzag:yenti mentally retarded swamy ki kuda pans vuntara?
Raising kurrodu swamy ki pani bongu leda ante personal ga annaru. Ippudu ninnu esukontaru “Generations to come will scarce believe that such a one as this walked the earth in flesh and blood.†|
   
Idle_yzag
Legend Username: Idle_yzag
Post Number: 33316 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 198.80.144.187
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 03:44 pm: |
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yenti mentally retarded swamy ki kuda pans vuntara?
 RahulGandhi/JP/Chiru |
   
Jupiter
Side Hero Username: Jupiter
Post Number: 2602 Registered: 05-2011 Posted From: 59.92.193.118
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 03:43 pm: |
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Sanman:but the results he are bringing are real.
no u still have to wait till the seventh heaven that lok satta and others are going to create thru their PIL .. until then nobody can not and shall not do anything of that level ... |
   
Sanman
Side Hero Username: Sanman
Post Number: 4787 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 03:37 pm: |
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Indiarocks:And now the same guy is talking abt equality of religions under law, and Govt. Malli eeyanaki integrity.
ok his reasons are obscure but the results he are bringing are real. give credit where credit is due to the guy who single handedly stopped destruction of ram setu and brought out the culprits of 2G scam into limelight. he is offering a counter balance to the extreme appeasement policy of govt. why do you want to bring a dead person into this ? especially when he is not alive - Jagan |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8173 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 03:29 pm: |
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Swamy's solution to tellal: "Strategy: Implement Uniform Civil Code, make Sanskrit learning compulsory and singing of Vande Mataram mandatory, and declare India as Hindu Rashtra in which only those non-Hindus can vote if they proudly acknowledge that their ancestors are Hindus. Re-name India as Hindustan as a nation of Hindus and those whose ancestors are Hindus." And now the same guy is talking abt equality of religions under law, and Govt. Malli eeyanaki integrity. eeyana supporters pakka desam lo hindus ni thokkestunnaru ani oogutharu.  What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Risingstar
Megastar Username: Risingstar
Post Number: 26758 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 159.53.78.142
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 03:12 pm: |
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Jp_rocks:bongulo reason..kinda draft bill lo definition clear ga undi and it is anybody's guess that the proposal is downright ridiculous ayyemi chudaledu, jeshtu kulam edupu tho digav..pani M leda ani....reverse lo ntr ni ex iste nannu antunnav
JP, nee aloochana dhorani ki hats off... FYI, nenu clear gaa chadivakee cheppanu... "For whateven reasons minority appeasement is very common in any democracy" Swamy is highly educated and he brought the culprits in 2G scam to the justice and he is still fighting. I have high respect on him... inka nee agenda continue cheyyu.. |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8172 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 03:09 pm: |
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Jupiter:meeru mattadithe .. lok satta antunnaru ... JP fan anukunta .. oka prb ni .. evariki tochina reethi lo vallu solve cheyataniki try chestharu .. why questioning integrity of the person?? mee arg ... swamy LS lo cherali annattu undhi ... LS vallani emi apaledu ga swamy ... result vachina rojuna .. LS ki kuda ilage thread esi abhinandistam .. ranivandi .. systematic marpu, appudu vachinattu mattadesthe ela ... Sonia pothe inkothi vastundi ani .. sonia ki sanmanam cheyalem ga ..
Lok Satta tho paatu CPIL mention chesanu, coz they are the other parties that filed PIL against Govt on 2G. Meeru meeku kavalsindi catch chesi story allukunnaru. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Cocanada
Legend Username: Cocanada
Post Number: 33934 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 168.244.164.254
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 03:08 pm: |
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Pakistam manani attack chesina roju JP speech ilaa untundi "asalu..himsa ane daaniki kaaranam entante......manishi ki pra prathamanga ........ blah blah"
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Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8171 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 03:06 pm: |
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Zulu:ippudu okadu murder chesadu 1. Murder chesinodini jail lo ettali 2. malli Murders jaragakunda system ni strong cheyyali swami is doing 1..someone else is doing no.2 why do you want swami to do no.2 task? no.1 task chesthunnadu appreciate cheyyi..
Swamy di agenda based fight. So fight ki by principle support chesta, agenda ni oppose chestanu. Ippatiki nenu Swamy case vesina points thappu ani vadinchala, individuals ni target chesi agenda choopistadu ane antunna. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Jupiter
Side Hero Username: Jupiter
Post Number: 2600 Registered: 05-2011 Posted From: 59.92.193.118
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 03:06 pm: |
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Indiarocks:desam baagupadipotundi kada?
LS bagu chese daka .. bagu padadhu .. kangaru padakandi |
   
Jupiter
Side Hero Username: Jupiter
Post Number: 2599 Registered: 05-2011 Posted From: 59.92.193.118
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 03:05 pm: |
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Indiarocks:See the difference CPIL, Lok Satta and many parties are fighting in SC on 2G, but they did not stop with individuals, they are fighting for systemic change also, aka Lok Pal, judicial reforms. Mana swamy kurrod inka Sonia, Raja ani oogutunnadu
meeru mattadithe .. lok satta antunnaru ... JP fan anukunta .. oka prb ni .. evariki tochina reethi lo vallu solve cheyataniki try chestharu .. why questioning integrity of the person?? mee arg ... swamy LS lo cherali annattu undhi ... LS vallani emi apaledu ga swamy ... result vachina rojuna .. LS ki kuda ilage thread esi abhinandistam .. ranivandi .. systematic marpu, appudu vachinattu mattadesthe ela ... Sonia pothe inkothi vastundi ani .. sonia ki sanmanam cheyalem ga ... |
   
Cocanada
Legend Username: Cocanada
Post Number: 33932 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 168.244.164.254
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 03:04 pm: |
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Indiarocks:aa swamy kurrod sonia ni accountable chestadu, desam baagupadipotundi kada?
ligght ga bagupadutundi |
   
Maverick
Legend Username: Maverick
Post Number: 31661 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 204.86.204.207
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 03:03 pm: |
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jp, i think rising didn't mean any disrespect to swamy.. Who is this DB member? |
   
Zulu
Side Hero Username: Zulu
Post Number: 8702 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 64.253.166.252
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 03:03 pm: |
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Indiarocks:
ippudu okadu murder chesadu 1. Murder chesinodini jail lo ettali 2. malli Murders jaragakunda system ni strong cheyyali swami is doing 1..someone else is doing no.2 why do you want swami to do no.2 task? no.1 task chesthunnadu appreciate cheyyi.. |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8170 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 02:58 pm: |
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Cocanada: because we have to blame the system and make vague statements with out holding anyone accountable
aa swamy kurrod sonia ni accountable chestadu, desam baagupadipotundi kada? What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Chillarodu
Comedian Username: Chillarodu
Post Number: 1144 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 75.103.2.44
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 02:58 pm: |
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Jp_rocks:ayyemi chudaledu, jeshtu kulam edupu tho digav..pani M leda ani...
pani M ledhaa ante.. Kulam edupani etlaa decide jeshnav? A diamond with a flaw is better than a common stone that is perfect. |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8169 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 02:56 pm: |
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Jupiter:swamy garu ... ittanti bills venaka unna individual's motives lagutunnadu court lo emi punishment lekapoyina .. vachina publicity ki ... janalu konta mandi aina gurtistharu .. ella lafoot mindsets ... 2G scam lo .. inkoddi rojulu pothe .. andariki bail vasthundi .. evadi panulo vadu buzy ... malla govt lo ministry ichina ascharyam ledu .. kani aa case valla .. public perception .. ee govt and individual ela corruption tho kulli poyaro telskunnaru ... court case verdict vastunda bocha ani teeseyakandi
idey nenu point chesedi exact gaa. Oka Raja ni jail lo pedithe inkodu vastadu. Mana system worst gaa unte, Sonia kakapothe inkokallu. Ye raayi aithe pallu oodagottukotaniki. Repu bail vastundi antunnaru, mari Swamy serious offences lo bail ivvakudadu, ila law cheyandi ani emanna chestada ante adi ledu. See the difference CPIL, Lok Satta and many parties are fighting in SC on 2G, but they did not stop with individuals, they are fighting for systemic change also, aka Lok Pal, judicial reforms. Mana swamy kurrod inka Sonia, Raja ani oogutunnadu What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Cocanada
Legend Username: Cocanada
Post Number: 33931 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 168.244.164.254
Rating:  Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 02:52 pm: |
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Zulu:sonia meeda swami concentration edithey nuvvenduku peel avuthunnav?
because we have to blame the system and make vague statements with out holding anyone accountable |
   
Bunty717
Moderator Username: Bunty717
Post Number: 20813 Registered: 02-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 02:51 pm: |
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Raman:asala majority ki vyatirekamga minority rights indialo tappa inkekkada undavu
Ind lo kuda min ki voting rights tesesi chudu.. evaru case cheyaru.. votes valla licking ekkuva chestunnavu ayina manam elagaina konchem teda le. bollywood chudu denemma jeevitham khans rule chestunnaru vallaki jai kodutunnam..siggu chetu.. malli topu persanalities aa ante.. okkalu kuda 5'9'' undadu.. OT's own dialog: Pativrate kaani, gokite vastundi |
   
Zulu
Side Hero Username: Zulu
Post Number: 8701 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 64.253.166.252
Rating:  Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 02:48 pm: |
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Indiarocks:2G lo kooda swamy concentration antha individuals meedane, systemic corruption meeda Prashant bhushan, Lok Satta ila chala mandi fight chestunnaru. And the so called crusader against corruption is conspicuously absent in the fight for Lok Pal. Meeru kooda chala edagali.
andaru sp balu lagey padali ante ela? okaru balu..okaru yesudasu..okaru uthuthi narayana..ala anna maata sonia meeda swami concentration edithey nuvvenduku peel avuthunnav? |
   
Jupiter
Side Hero Username: Jupiter
Post Number: 2597 Registered: 05-2011 Posted From: 59.92.193.118
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 02:48 pm: |
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Indiarocks:Ee vishayam Swamy ki teliyaka kaadu, kaani Sonia meeda sunakanandam.
swamy garu ... ittanti bills venaka unna individual's motives lagutunnadu court lo emi punishment lekapoyina .. vachina publicity ki ... janalu konta mandi aina gurtistharu .. ella lafoot mindsets ... 2G scam lo .. inkoddi rojulu pothe .. andariki bail vasthundi .. evadi panulo vadu buzy ... malla govt lo ministry ichina ascharyam ledu .. kani aa case valla .. public perception .. ee govt and individual ela corruption tho kulli poyaro telskunnaru ... court case verdict vastunda bocha ani teeseyakandi |
   
Sanman
Side Hero Username: Sanman
Post Number: 4785 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 02:46 pm: |
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Indiarocks:Ee vishayam Swamy ki teliyaka kaadu, kaani Sonia meeda sunakanandam.
may be he wants to bring awareness among public and he is using court as a medium why do you want to bring a dead person into this ? especially when he is not alive - Jagan |
   
Raman
Side Hero Username: Raman
Post Number: 3000 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 159.182.1.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 02:45 pm: |
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Indiarocks:Indiviuduals responsible avaru bill ki. State Govt muz reservations lo high court ilage kottesindi,
aa vishyam subbu swamiki teliyaka case pettadu tamaru inka  |
   
Raman
Side Hero Username: Raman
Post Number: 2999 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 159.182.1.4
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 02:44 pm: |
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Islamic Republic of Pakistan lo minority rights aa? asala majority ki vyatirekamga minority rights indialo tappa inkekkada undavu |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8168 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 02:43 pm: |
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Cocanada:annai "govt" ni jail lo ettadam kudaradu kada individuals take decisions and they should be held responsible. andulo doubt ledu. Subbu thatha doing great job till now. Raja. Kanimozhi, Maaran ni muyinchaadu. He saved country from Pak and China taking control of our spectrum
Indiviuduals responsible avaru bill ki. State Govt muz reservations lo high court ilage kottesindi, ante ysr ni teesukelli jail lo pettara? Ee vishayam Swamy ki teliyaka kaadu, kaani Sonia meeda sunakanandam. 2G lo kooda swamy concentration antha individuals meedane, systemic corruption meeda Prashant bhushan, Lok Satta ila chala mandi fight chestunnaru. And the so called crusader against corruption is conspicuously absent in the fight for Lok Pal. Meeru kooda chala edagali. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Raman
Side Hero Username: Raman
Post Number: 2998 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 159.182.1.4
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 02:42 pm: |
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Bunty717:telisi.. mana pakka desam lo kuda unnayi..vatini govt/janam care cheyaru
eti oka nalugu rules cheppu  |
   
Thelegend
Moderator Username: Thelegend
Post Number: 7183 Registered: 04-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 02:40 pm: |
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I meant Pak is NOT secular |
   
2cool
Side Hero Username: 2cool
Post Number: 7022 Registered: 05-2009 Posted From: 166.137.14.141
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 02:39 pm: |
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Deenemma kyamedy..Subbu kooda added kiki |
   
Bunty717
Moderator Username: Bunty717
Post Number: 20809 Registered: 02-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 02:38 pm: |
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Raman:telisi mattadutunnava tlekanda mattadutunnavo?
telisi.. mana pakka desam lo kuda unnayi..vatini govt/janam care cheyaru naa collegue okkadu hindu paki undevaadu.. atanu chepedu..vellaki kuda bhayam ekkuva.. manaki enduku ani.. Ind lo minority kurrol ki unity ekkuva.. political parties backing istaayi votes kosam OT's own dialog: Pativrate kaani, gokite vastundi |
   
Cocanada
Legend Username: Cocanada
Post Number: 33930 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 168.244.164.254
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 02:38 pm: |
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Raman:telisi mattadutunnava tlekanda mattadutunnavo?
mathhhu li matladutunnaadu |
   
Thelegend
Moderator Username: Thelegend
Post Number: 7182 Registered: 04-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 02:37 pm: |
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Bunty717:mana pakka desam lo kuda manaki(hindus) ki untaayi.. kaani
Pak is secular |
   
Jp_rocks
Hero Username: Jp_rocks
Post Number: 13040 Registered: 06-2009 Posted From: 167.83.10.20
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 02:36 pm: |
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Risingstar:nenu swamy ni anataniki reason cheppanu..
bongulo reason..kinda draft bill lo definition clear ga undi and it is anybody's guess that the proposal is downright ridiculous ayyemi chudaledu, jeshtu kulam edupu tho digav..pani M leda ani....reverse lo ntr ni ex iste nannu antunnav.. carry on |
   
Raman
Side Hero Username: Raman
Post Number: 2996 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 159.182.1.4
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 02:36 pm: |
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Bunty717:mana pakka desam lo kuda manaki(hindus) ki untaayi.. kaani
telisi mattadutunnava tlekanda mattadutunnavo? |
   
Cocanada
Legend Username: Cocanada
Post Number: 33929 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 168.244.164.254
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 02:36 pm: |
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Jp_rocks:it's my gut feel..everybody knows she's the culprit ante d'gadu kada
he is a lawyer xcum public prosecutor xcum professor xcum printer xcum scanner xcum bathroom xcum latrine aayana chuskuntaadu. manam seppakarledu alantivi |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8167 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 02:35 pm: |
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Jp_rocks:nee yenkamma, legal ga proceed ainappudu solid objective evidence undali.. it's my gut feel..everybody knows she's the culprit ante d'gadu kada
swamy kurrod continuous gaa sonia ante oogutuntadu. So thappadu... What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Bunty717
Moderator Username: Bunty717
Post Number: 20806 Registered: 02-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 02:35 pm: |
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Cocanada:ejjampul?
ejjampul etehees.. ee country lone naa untaayi.. mana pakka desam lo kuda manaki(hindus) ki untaayi.. kaani vallu avi impletent cheyaru and janam aa rule ki care cheyaru mana country lo votes kosam .. ekkuva naakutaaru... ante tedaa OT's own dialog: Pativrate kaani, gokite vastundi |
   
Cocanada
Legend Username: Cocanada
Post Number: 33928 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 168.244.164.254
Rating:  Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 02:34 pm: |
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Indiarocks:As usual Swamy gaaru beyond individuals choodaleru ani prove chesukunnaru..
annai "govt" ni jail lo ettadam kudaradu kada individuals take decisions and they should be held responsible. andulo doubt ledu. Subbu thatha doing great job till now. Raja. Kanimozhi, Maaran ni muyinchaadu. He saved country from Pak and China taking control of our spectrum |
   
Risingstar
Megastar Username: Risingstar
Post Number: 26756 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 159.53.46.147
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 02:34 pm: |
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Jp_rocks:ntr garu parama bawerse candidate ante aayanni "gaaru" ani pilchinatta leka bewarse ani thittinatta?? logical kochen "manodu" kakapote profile doesn't matter aa....edup coke di kadu anukunta
jp nee kulam edupu continue cheyyu... nenu swamy ni anataniki reason cheppanu.. idhi swamy gurinchi thread.. ntr ni thechindi nuvvu...evaridhi edupoo chusevallaki thelusthundi |
   
Thelegend
Moderator Username: Thelegend
Post Number: 7181 Registered: 04-2008
Rating:  Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 02:33 pm: |
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Jp_rocks:ntr garu parama bawerse candidate ante aayanni "gaaru" ani pilchinatta leka bewarse ani thittinatta?? logical kochen
vaarini ippudu NTR enduku vachhadu topic loki? Mallee future lo evaranna Subbu nunchee $ varaku ante proff pettandi antav hehe |
   
Jp_rocks
Hero Username: Jp_rocks
Post Number: 13039 Registered: 06-2009 Posted From: 167.83.10.20
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 02:32 pm: |
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Cocanada:avunavunu..congress lo teeskunna ye decision kiii Sonia involvement ledu nuvvu edagaali paarthu
nee yenkamma, legal ga proceed ainappudu solid objective evidence undali.. it's my gut feel..everybody knows she's the culprit ante d'gadu kada |
   
Cocanada
Legend Username: Cocanada
Post Number: 33927 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 168.244.164.254
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 02:31 pm: |
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Risingstar:minorities ki special rights untayu democracy
ejjampul? |
   
Humpty_dumpty
Moderator Username: Humpty_dumpty
Post Number: 16488 Registered: 02-2009
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 02:31 pm: |
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Risingstar:minorities ki special rights untayu democracy loo.
the definitions and their scope are not right bro ippudu old city lo keech kaat jairigithay manam minority kindakee raamu adi matter |
   
Pavala
Hero Username: Pavala
Post Number: 14033 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 85.80.227.204
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 02:31 pm: |
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Humpty_dumpty:her buddies
Rajusk:ante Ahmed fatel and Anthony naa ?
 Chiru, an average actor, very good dancer. - New_user
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Jp_rocks
Hero Username: Jp_rocks
Post Number: 13038 Registered: 06-2009 Posted From: 167.83.10.20
Rating:  Votes: 4 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 02:31 pm: |
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Risingstar:aayanni garu anee kadha pilichindi?
ntr garu parama bawerse candidate ante aayanni "gaaru" ani pilchinatta leka bewarse ani thittinatta?? logical kochen "manodu" kakapote profile doesn't matter aa....edup coke di kadu anukunta  |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8166 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 02:31 pm: |
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A draft bill represents the Govt, not Sonia, or other individuals. As usual Swamy gaaru beyond individuals choodaleru ani prove chesukunnaru..
 What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Humpty_dumpty
Moderator Username: Humpty_dumpty
Post Number: 16487 Registered: 02-2009
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 02:30 pm: |
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Rajusk:
exact gaa ivay names kaadhu annai appatlo sanjay ippudu sonia anukuntunna |
   
Zulu
Side Hero Username: Zulu
Post Number: 8700 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 64.253.166.252
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 02:28 pm: |
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keka! mundu denni muyyali..
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Risingstar
Megastar Username: Risingstar
Post Number: 26752 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 159.53.46.147
Rating:  Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 02:26 pm: |
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Cocanada:aayana profile chusi nee gurinchi nuvvu alochinchuko pani , M evariki unnayo evariki levo ardham avutundi
denemma nee edupu endhi saami? aayanni garu anee kadha pilichindi? naathoo equal ananna endhi? prathi daaniki artham partham lekunda case file chesthunnad kabatti annanu.. minorities ki special rights untayu democracy loo.. |
   
Cocanada
Legend Username: Cocanada
Post Number: 33925 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 168.244.164.254
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 02:23 pm: |
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Jp_rocks:koddiga veluturu veyyi
avunavunu..congress lo teeskunna ye decision kiii Sonia involvement ledu nuvvu edagaali paarthu |
   
Rajusk
Hero Username: Rajusk
Post Number: 15108 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.234.99.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 02:23 pm: |
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Humpty_dumpty:her buddies
ante Ahmed fatel and Anthony naa ? |
   
Humpty_dumpty
Moderator Username: Humpty_dumpty
Post Number: 16486 Registered: 02-2009
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 02:21 pm: |
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Jp_rocks:
she is in the drafting committee along with her buddies |
   
Jp_rocks
Hero Username: Jp_rocks
Post Number: 13036 Registered: 06-2009 Posted From: 167.83.10.20
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 02:18 pm: |
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coke - daniki sonia em chesindi? how is she responsible for the draft bill..she's not in power koddiga veluturu veyyi |
   
Cocanada
Legend Username: Cocanada
Post Number: 33922 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 168.244.164.254
Rating:  Votes: 4 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 02:15 pm: |
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Risingstar:ee swamy gariki panee m undadha?
aayana profile chusi nee gurinchi nuvvu alochinchuko pani , M evariki unnayo evariki levo ardham avutundi |
   
Mahesh_fan
Side Hero Username: Mahesh_fan
Post Number: 3391 Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 207.255.30.26
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 01:22 pm: |
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Risingstar:ee swamy gariki panee m undadha? eppudu edhoo oka case gola thappithe..
iynaki nachindhi iyna chesthadu ..same question nuvu reverse lo vesuko .. mogudu pothe poyadu .. first night mathram bemmandam ga jargindi .. ani sametha .. |
   
Cocanada
Legend Username: Cocanada
Post Number: 33919 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 98.17.91.244
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 01:14 pm: |
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Risingstar:eppudu edhoo oka case gola thappithe
keka post asala  |
   
Jupiter
Side Hero Username: Jupiter
Post Number: 2583 Registered: 05-2011 Posted From: 173.39.71.118
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 12:04 pm: |
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Risingstar
Megastar Username: Risingstar
Post Number: 26742 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 159.53.46.147
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 12:00 pm: |
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ee swamy gariki panee m undadha? eppudu edhoo oka case gola thappithe.. |
   
Cocanada
Legend Username: Cocanada
Post Number: 33918 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 168.244.164.254
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 11:58 am: |
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started. "From their (Muslims' and Christians') arguments in opposition to the draft bill, it is clear that they wanted a bill that would consider only the Christians and Muslims as the "generally targeted" victims of communal violence; and that the word 'communal violence' be re-defined in such a way that only the Muslims and Christians are treated as victims and Hindus as predators, and that the local police and administration, including the state administration, considered hand-in-glove with the perpetrators of violence," |